1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:13,241 Speaker 1: Apogae Production. Welcome to the sheep Risers Podcast. I'm Ashy 2 00:00:13,281 --> 00:00:14,081 Speaker 1: and I'm Tiana. 3 00:00:14,361 --> 00:00:15,201 Speaker 2: This podcast is. 4 00:00:15,201 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 3: About female empowerment and encouraging you to be your biggest, boldest, 5 00:00:18,801 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: and most authentic version of yourself. 6 00:00:20,961 --> 00:00:23,281 Speaker 1: We help you shed the shame grows to a new level. 7 00:00:23,321 --> 00:00:26,241 Speaker 1: We're gonna laugh, cry, and talk about the topics everyone 8 00:00:26,281 --> 00:00:27,801 Speaker 1: else is too afraid to talk about. 9 00:00:28,401 --> 00:00:30,761 Speaker 3: Get ready for your next level of self. 10 00:00:31,481 --> 00:00:34,921 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to a Wednesday episode. Today, we 11 00:00:35,001 --> 00:00:37,601 Speaker 1: have a random episode of random thoughts. Yeah, but we 12 00:00:37,601 --> 00:00:40,281 Speaker 1: thought it would be really interesting and just maybe entertaining 13 00:00:40,281 --> 00:00:43,281 Speaker 1: if you guys listen to. So both got a bunch 14 00:00:43,281 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: of random thoughts and we're gonna chat about them together, 15 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:47,521 Speaker 1: so you guys can hear. Yeah, help me to go first. 16 00:00:47,601 --> 00:00:48,881 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, bring it in. 17 00:00:49,161 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: As you guys may or may have not known, I 18 00:00:51,241 --> 00:00:54,081 Speaker 1: had my second brain aneurism surgery a couple of weeks ago, 19 00:00:54,881 --> 00:00:56,561 Speaker 1: and I just had this random thought and I see 20 00:00:56,601 --> 00:00:58,801 Speaker 1: you looking down at my wrist. I'm like, how the 21 00:00:59,081 --> 00:01:03,081 Speaker 1: fuck do they operate on my brain by going up 22 00:01:03,121 --> 00:01:05,281 Speaker 1: through my wrist? And I know a lot of you 23 00:01:05,281 --> 00:01:07,441 Speaker 1: are thinking this because a lot of you dm me 24 00:01:07,481 --> 00:01:09,921 Speaker 1: asking why I had didn't get any of my hair shaved. 25 00:01:10,121 --> 00:01:11,961 Speaker 1: So when Steve had a brain aneurysm, they had to 26 00:01:11,961 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: cut his whole skull open, shave the back of it, 27 00:01:15,241 --> 00:01:17,761 Speaker 1: cut it all open, pull his brain out, pull out 28 00:01:17,761 --> 00:01:20,481 Speaker 1: the aneurysm. He'll all put it all back together. He's 29 00:01:20,521 --> 00:01:22,801 Speaker 1: got this massive scar, like the hair never grows back 30 00:01:23,161 --> 00:01:25,401 Speaker 1: where his scar is. It was a wild thing his 31 00:01:25,441 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: hospital for six months, whereas mine, my anneurism was a 32 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,801 Speaker 1: lot smaller than his. In a different type of anneurysm. 33 00:01:31,121 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: They literally go up through my arterie, through my wrist 34 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: and insert a stent into my aneurism, which is mind blowing. 35 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: Like thinking about it, I'm like, what the actual fuck. 36 00:01:41,241 --> 00:01:43,081 Speaker 1: And they can do that for heart surgeries as well. 37 00:01:43,161 --> 00:01:43,961 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 38 00:01:43,961 --> 00:01:45,721 Speaker 1: They can go through your wrist and through your growing 39 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,841 Speaker 1: up to your heart and put stents in there. It's 40 00:01:48,961 --> 00:01:53,201 Speaker 1: mind blowing, right, that's impressive. It's really impressive even the 41 00:01:53,241 --> 00:01:53,841 Speaker 1: thought of that. 42 00:01:54,041 --> 00:01:55,841 Speaker 2: I know how you barely have a scar. 43 00:01:56,121 --> 00:01:58,841 Speaker 1: I know there's two tiny little scars from both surgeries, 44 00:01:59,161 --> 00:02:01,201 Speaker 1: and like you have to look up close to see them. 45 00:02:01,281 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: Looks like a little pencil mark, you know, when someone 46 00:02:03,641 --> 00:02:06,761 Speaker 1: like holds a Pence reckle twist. Yeah, so that's my 47 00:02:06,801 --> 00:02:09,641 Speaker 1: first random thought. What's yours? I was having this. 48 00:02:09,521 --> 00:02:10,161 Speaker 2: Thought last night. 49 00:02:10,201 --> 00:02:12,041 Speaker 3: So I just got back from the Billie Eilish concert 50 00:02:12,081 --> 00:02:15,121 Speaker 3: in Brisbane and I left the concert. We were waiting 51 00:02:15,201 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: for our driver to come get us, and I was 52 00:02:18,161 --> 00:02:21,761 Speaker 3: sitting there thinking how crazy is it that her life? 53 00:02:22,001 --> 00:02:25,281 Speaker 3: That imagine having the whole world be your biggest fan, 54 00:02:26,721 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: And I just was thinking in my head like she 55 00:02:28,281 --> 00:02:30,601 Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to live a normal life. Even in 56 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,041 Speaker 3: the airport there was photos of her being photographed. You 57 00:02:34,121 --> 00:02:36,681 Speaker 3: could not even see her skin, babe, and she was 58 00:02:36,761 --> 00:02:39,881 Speaker 3: so easily identifiable, obviously by the way that she dresses, 59 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:40,881 Speaker 3: but people knew. 60 00:02:40,721 --> 00:02:41,201 Speaker 2: That it was her. 61 00:02:41,281 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: She had like a mask on Sonny's a hat or hoodie. Yeah, 62 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,841 Speaker 3: like photo she was fully covered and people could identify her. 63 00:02:49,081 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: This is so random. 64 00:02:49,841 --> 00:02:51,201 Speaker 3: For this is literally what I've been thinking about the 65 00:02:51,281 --> 00:02:55,161 Speaker 3: last twenty four hours. Random thought is that I remember 66 00:02:55,161 --> 00:02:56,601 Speaker 3: looking at her on stage and looking at her on 67 00:02:56,601 --> 00:02:58,961 Speaker 3: the big screen and thinking like, wow, she looks sad today. 68 00:02:59,641 --> 00:03:01,961 Speaker 3: And then I ended up talking to my brother about 69 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: it in the morning and he go, oh, yeah, she's 70 00:03:03,921 --> 00:03:07,721 Speaker 3: been really sick. So she's performing while she's been really sick, 71 00:03:07,921 --> 00:03:10,881 Speaker 3: So makes sense why I thought that. And also this 72 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,201 Speaker 3: Australian tool is her first tool without her family. She's 73 00:03:14,201 --> 00:03:16,321 Speaker 3: not performing with her brother, which she normally does, and 74 00:03:16,561 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: it's like the best thing in the world to her, 75 00:03:19,081 --> 00:03:21,721 Speaker 3: Like she just wouldn't live a normal life. No, Like, 76 00:03:21,921 --> 00:03:24,001 Speaker 3: how does she go anywhere? How does she do anything? 77 00:03:24,041 --> 00:03:25,041 Speaker 3: Does she leave the house? 78 00:03:25,201 --> 00:03:25,321 Speaker 1: Like? 79 00:03:25,641 --> 00:03:27,801 Speaker 2: Imagine having the whole world obsessed with. 80 00:03:27,721 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: You, that you literally have raving fans that are screaming 81 00:03:31,841 --> 00:03:32,761 Speaker 3: everywhere that you go. 82 00:03:32,841 --> 00:03:34,801 Speaker 1: I can't imagine. I thought about that when Taylor came 83 00:03:34,801 --> 00:03:36,801 Speaker 1: to Taylor Swift. I was like, whoa, I just can't 84 00:03:36,841 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: imagine your life like that. 85 00:03:37,961 --> 00:03:38,641 Speaker 2: It's insane. 86 00:03:38,801 --> 00:03:41,241 Speaker 1: Yeah, every move, everything you do is been watched, you 87 00:03:41,361 --> 00:03:44,281 Speaker 1: being followed. Everyone's so interested, so much gets made up 88 00:03:44,281 --> 00:03:46,881 Speaker 1: about you, assumed about you. You get criticized for everything. 89 00:03:47,881 --> 00:03:50,361 Speaker 3: Oh but even like sitting in the crowd, I was 90 00:03:50,401 --> 00:03:53,281 Speaker 3: thinking to myself, like people literally screaming like behind, in 91 00:03:53,361 --> 00:03:54,401 Speaker 3: and in front from everywhere. 92 00:03:54,481 --> 00:03:58,321 Speaker 2: I love you, Billy. I just can't. 93 00:03:58,001 --> 00:04:01,641 Speaker 3: Fathom that people can't hold it together when it's another 94 00:04:01,721 --> 00:04:02,241 Speaker 3: human thing. 95 00:04:02,721 --> 00:04:03,321 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? 96 00:04:03,641 --> 00:04:05,081 Speaker 1: No, I can't relate to it. There's never been in 97 00:04:05,121 --> 00:04:07,921 Speaker 1: the celebrity that I would ever camp out for, yeah, 98 00:04:08,041 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: or line up for ten hours or there's not even 99 00:04:11,161 --> 00:04:13,121 Speaker 1: that many live concerts I've gone to. Like, I love 100 00:04:13,201 --> 00:04:15,961 Speaker 1: a lot of artists, but to be that obsessed with them, 101 00:04:16,001 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: I can't relate. 102 00:04:16,721 --> 00:04:17,321 Speaker 2: It's wild. 103 00:04:17,361 --> 00:04:19,041 Speaker 3: And you know, you see videos of people on social 104 00:04:19,081 --> 00:04:22,041 Speaker 3: media and they're like crying and their videos and hysterically 105 00:04:22,161 --> 00:04:22,721 Speaker 3: crying oh. 106 00:04:22,761 --> 00:04:25,481 Speaker 2: God, like and I'm just like, that's another human being. 107 00:04:25,721 --> 00:04:28,921 Speaker 3: Like, imagine putting aside the love and the admiration that 108 00:04:28,961 --> 00:04:30,921 Speaker 3: you have for that person, Imagine how that would be 109 00:04:31,001 --> 00:04:32,481 Speaker 3: on the receiving end for that person. 110 00:04:33,041 --> 00:04:34,081 Speaker 2: Like, I just can't fathom. 111 00:04:34,201 --> 00:04:37,561 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't fathom that either. Wow. You know what 112 00:04:37,641 --> 00:04:40,161 Speaker 1: I'm pondering on at the moment because I got sent 113 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: this screenshot from a gossip page the other day, and 114 00:04:43,241 --> 00:04:45,961 Speaker 1: people just send me a screenshot. It's not like, hey, babe, 115 00:04:46,121 --> 00:04:48,241 Speaker 1: really supporting you, like what you let know about this. 116 00:04:48,361 --> 00:04:50,041 Speaker 1: They just send me a screenshot of what people are 117 00:04:50,041 --> 00:04:52,601 Speaker 1: saying about me. And people the other day were saying 118 00:04:52,601 --> 00:04:55,241 Speaker 1: that for someone who's so well put together, which thank you, 119 00:04:55,281 --> 00:04:56,401 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm always put. 120 00:04:56,281 --> 00:04:57,841 Speaker 2: Together you think I'm well put together. 121 00:04:59,241 --> 00:05:01,441 Speaker 1: Her kids look homeless. You think she'd take her son 122 00:05:01,481 --> 00:05:04,401 Speaker 1: to get a haircut because he just got a cut, 123 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: actually because of them. Yeah, he decided to Actually, the 124 00:05:07,401 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: hairdresser fucking decided to go shorter, but he had long hand. 125 00:05:10,241 --> 00:05:12,121 Speaker 1: He really loved it. He wanted his curls back from 126 00:05:12,121 --> 00:05:14,201 Speaker 1: when he was younger, and you can see Tyler's got curls. 127 00:05:14,521 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: Says he want his curls back. I said, you probably 128 00:05:16,161 --> 00:05:18,241 Speaker 1: need to grow your hair because when it cuts, it 129 00:05:18,241 --> 00:05:20,361 Speaker 1: cuts the curls off at the ends. When it gets longer, 130 00:05:20,401 --> 00:05:22,921 Speaker 1: he gets curly ends. So he wanted to grow it long. 131 00:05:22,961 --> 00:05:24,841 Speaker 1: And he got his curls back, and he was loving it. 132 00:05:24,841 --> 00:05:26,321 Speaker 1: It was starting to kind of get in his eyes 133 00:05:26,361 --> 00:05:28,121 Speaker 1: a bit, and we went to get a trim, which 134 00:05:28,161 --> 00:05:30,241 Speaker 1: he wanted, and the hairdresser ended up getting Sis are 135 00:05:30,241 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: happy and it's way shorter now. But I was just pondering. 136 00:05:33,361 --> 00:05:36,201 Speaker 1: I'm like, I went really deep in it. One. Why 137 00:05:36,241 --> 00:05:38,241 Speaker 1: are you sending me this? It doesn't serve me. What 138 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,521 Speaker 1: I don't know doesn't hurt me. Let me live over 139 00:05:40,561 --> 00:05:42,601 Speaker 1: here in fairyland. I don't give a fuck what's saying 140 00:05:42,601 --> 00:05:45,681 Speaker 1: behind my back? Truly, Yes, it doesn't impact me in 141 00:05:45,681 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: a positive way if you send it. 142 00:05:47,041 --> 00:05:47,281 Speaker 2: Yes. 143 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,401 Speaker 1: Three, Why are you in a gossip page? What does 144 00:05:50,521 --> 00:05:53,041 Speaker 1: that do for your life? What makes you want to 145 00:05:53,161 --> 00:05:55,681 Speaker 1: join in there? What makes you want to stay in there? 146 00:05:56,041 --> 00:05:57,801 Speaker 1: What makes you want to engage? I want you to 147 00:05:57,801 --> 00:06:01,121 Speaker 1: think about what emotional needs this is meeting for you? 148 00:06:01,841 --> 00:06:05,241 Speaker 1: Is it significance? Is it community? Is it connection? Is 149 00:06:05,241 --> 00:06:08,441 Speaker 1: it variety? And understand all of that, but is there 150 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: a healthier, more productive way to get those needs met? 151 00:06:13,121 --> 00:06:15,721 Speaker 1: Is this helping you achieve your goals? Definitely not? Is 152 00:06:15,721 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: this helping you be the woman you know you can be? 153 00:06:18,001 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: Definitely not? Is this helping you be a better mother? 154 00:06:20,401 --> 00:06:23,361 Speaker 1: One hundred percent not? Ye. Is your partner attracted to 155 00:06:23,681 --> 00:06:26,561 Speaker 1: you being in gossip pages looking at if I'm bitching 156 00:06:26,561 --> 00:06:29,921 Speaker 1: about other girls? Definitely not. Would you want your daughter 157 00:06:29,961 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: to be in there bitching about other girls? Nope? What 158 00:06:31,761 --> 00:06:33,441 Speaker 1: would you think about your sister being in there having 159 00:06:33,481 --> 00:06:35,361 Speaker 1: a bitch about other girls? You wouldn't like that? 160 00:06:35,761 --> 00:06:36,241 Speaker 2: Not at all? 161 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: So why are you in there? I've just been pondering 162 00:06:38,961 --> 00:06:41,161 Speaker 1: on it. I'm like, seem really curious on why these 163 00:06:41,161 --> 00:06:43,041 Speaker 1: women are in there? And I had another girl reach 164 00:06:43,081 --> 00:06:45,561 Speaker 1: out and she was really lovely. It was actually about 165 00:06:45,641 --> 00:06:48,921 Speaker 1: being in hospital, and someone sent a screenshot saying that 166 00:06:48,961 --> 00:06:50,881 Speaker 1: all the nurses were laughing at me in hospital and 167 00:06:50,921 --> 00:06:52,521 Speaker 1: they're going to find out the tea about me. They 168 00:06:52,561 --> 00:06:54,601 Speaker 1: know someone that works in there. And I was just like, 169 00:06:54,761 --> 00:06:58,361 Speaker 1: oh my god, is this legal. I spoke to Meg 170 00:06:58,401 --> 00:07:00,161 Speaker 1: about it and she's like, no, they would lose their job. 171 00:07:00,361 --> 00:07:02,721 Speaker 1: It's like full confidentiality, then allow us speak about you. 172 00:07:03,121 --> 00:07:06,321 Speaker 1: And they obviously are the trolls are just making things up. 173 00:07:06,361 --> 00:07:09,121 Speaker 1: I'm not too sure, but I was just like, wow, 174 00:07:09,281 --> 00:07:13,201 Speaker 1: this happens. I would never It just got me really 175 00:07:13,201 --> 00:07:16,081 Speaker 1: curious as to why women do that, what they get 176 00:07:16,121 --> 00:07:18,361 Speaker 1: out of it. Yeah, Yeah, it's interesting. 177 00:07:18,441 --> 00:07:21,081 Speaker 3: It's definitely a really interesting one, isn't it, Especially like 178 00:07:21,161 --> 00:07:24,401 Speaker 3: the passing on the information. It's like you could see, 179 00:07:24,441 --> 00:07:26,801 Speaker 3: like if you assume the best, you could see how 180 00:07:26,841 --> 00:07:28,601 Speaker 3: somebody might want to do that from a place of 181 00:07:28,641 --> 00:07:32,441 Speaker 3: like warning you. Yes, But also it's really a discernment thing, 182 00:07:32,481 --> 00:07:35,201 Speaker 3: like access discernment in those moments of like, Okay, she's 183 00:07:35,241 --> 00:07:37,601 Speaker 3: showing this person going to help their mental health? 184 00:07:38,001 --> 00:07:39,481 Speaker 2: Is it going to benefit them anyway? 185 00:07:39,561 --> 00:07:39,601 Speaker 1: You? 186 00:07:39,761 --> 00:07:41,121 Speaker 2: Like what you said is it going to be a 187 00:07:41,121 --> 00:07:42,201 Speaker 2: positive thing for them. 188 00:07:42,321 --> 00:07:43,001 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. 189 00:07:43,361 --> 00:07:46,001 Speaker 3: Sometimes ignorance is bliss when it comes to things. Sure, 190 00:07:46,121 --> 00:07:49,281 Speaker 3: especially with the Internet, like people do and say very 191 00:07:49,321 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: unhinged things and very. 192 00:07:51,601 --> 00:07:53,881 Speaker 2: Unhinged place you know, So it's. 193 00:07:53,761 --> 00:07:56,281 Speaker 3: Like it's going to happen. It's like, do you need 194 00:07:56,361 --> 00:07:57,401 Speaker 3: to be receiving it? 195 00:07:57,481 --> 00:07:57,641 Speaker 1: No? 196 00:07:57,721 --> 00:08:00,121 Speaker 3: Do people also need to be passing on that information? No, 197 00:08:00,601 --> 00:08:02,201 Speaker 3: because they're also engaging it in their. 198 00:08:02,121 --> 00:08:02,761 Speaker 2: Own life too. 199 00:08:02,841 --> 00:08:04,401 Speaker 1: Yeah, actgetically they're. 200 00:08:04,241 --> 00:08:04,881 Speaker 2: Being a parti it. 201 00:08:06,121 --> 00:08:08,801 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're actually choosing to contribute to the drama that's 202 00:08:08,801 --> 00:08:10,721 Speaker 3: happening by involving themselves in. 203 00:08:10,761 --> 00:08:13,001 Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with them. The hairstyle and 204 00:08:13,121 --> 00:08:14,721 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know why you're sending me this. 205 00:08:15,121 --> 00:08:16,921 Speaker 1: And then the girl that sent the hospital stuff, she 206 00:08:16,961 --> 00:08:19,321 Speaker 1: was genuinely concerned. She wants to take it further. Yeah, 207 00:08:19,361 --> 00:08:20,761 Speaker 1: she's like, if you're not going to take this further, 208 00:08:20,801 --> 00:08:22,481 Speaker 1: I am Because she had a mum in hospital at 209 00:08:22,521 --> 00:08:24,721 Speaker 1: that point in time. She was like, I'd fucking be 210 00:08:24,841 --> 00:08:27,201 Speaker 1: so upset if the nurses were one laughing about you 211 00:08:27,241 --> 00:08:29,601 Speaker 1: when you're in a hontable position, but two like then 212 00:08:29,641 --> 00:08:31,481 Speaker 1: allowed to share your information. So she's like, if you're 213 00:08:31,481 --> 00:08:33,601 Speaker 1: not going to take this further if you don't mind, 214 00:08:33,641 --> 00:08:36,161 Speaker 1: I will. I was like, well, that's really lovely. She 215 00:08:36,201 --> 00:08:38,281 Speaker 1: was coming from a good place, but I just wanted 216 00:08:38,281 --> 00:08:40,161 Speaker 1: to share that in case you are in a gossip 217 00:08:40,201 --> 00:08:43,081 Speaker 1: forum and maybe you're you're like, oh shit, why am 218 00:08:43,161 --> 00:08:45,561 Speaker 1: I in there? Like, I get it's interesting, Yeah, it's gossipy. 219 00:08:45,641 --> 00:08:48,441 Speaker 1: It's like watching a TV show or I don't know, 220 00:08:48,481 --> 00:08:51,201 Speaker 1: maybe you're a bit lonely or bored or I don't know. 221 00:08:51,241 --> 00:08:52,841 Speaker 1: You're interested in someone's life, so you're trying to find 222 00:08:52,881 --> 00:08:55,561 Speaker 1: out different pieces. I'm trying to understand it, but I 223 00:08:55,561 --> 00:08:57,401 Speaker 1: still just can't relate. It's not something I would ever 224 00:08:57,481 --> 00:08:58,281 Speaker 1: want to be a part of. 225 00:08:58,441 --> 00:09:01,161 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's these kind of behaviors that we get 226 00:09:01,201 --> 00:09:03,521 Speaker 3: to look at, especially if like anybody who is in 227 00:09:03,561 --> 00:09:06,121 Speaker 3: a gossip page. But it's also on the other hand, 228 00:09:06,281 --> 00:09:08,481 Speaker 3: going oh, I want to find my people, and I 229 00:09:08,481 --> 00:09:10,761 Speaker 3: want to put myself in better environments, and I want 230 00:09:10,761 --> 00:09:12,961 Speaker 3: to be surrounded by better people who are focusing on 231 00:09:13,001 --> 00:09:15,521 Speaker 3: growth and not talking about people. It's we get to 232 00:09:15,561 --> 00:09:17,681 Speaker 3: look at ourselves of being like, Okay, why am I 233 00:09:17,721 --> 00:09:19,961 Speaker 3: in this gossip page? If what I'm trying to say, 234 00:09:20,121 --> 00:09:23,081 Speaker 3: and trying to create for myself is the complete opposite, 235 00:09:23,281 --> 00:09:26,721 Speaker 3: because you'd very rarely, almost ever find the people that 236 00:09:26,761 --> 00:09:27,441 Speaker 3: you're actually. 237 00:09:27,241 --> 00:09:28,801 Speaker 2: Looking for in places like that. 238 00:09:28,921 --> 00:09:30,601 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, no, not in that low vibration. 239 00:09:30,761 --> 00:09:31,521 Speaker 2: No, not at all. 240 00:09:31,801 --> 00:09:33,761 Speaker 1: Nah. If you've being really honest with yourself, you do 241 00:09:33,801 --> 00:09:35,601 Speaker 1: not want to be living in that low vibration. Yeah, 242 00:09:35,601 --> 00:09:38,001 Speaker 1: that's not the kind of people you'd want surrounded by. 243 00:09:38,641 --> 00:09:41,441 Speaker 3: It's just another way to take responsibility for what we're 244 00:09:41,481 --> 00:09:44,761 Speaker 3: doing and what we're choosing and why we're maybe where 245 00:09:44,761 --> 00:09:45,401 Speaker 3: we are in life. 246 00:09:45,441 --> 00:09:48,081 Speaker 2: It's just really cool to look at. It's curiosity. 247 00:09:48,241 --> 00:09:49,601 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I wanted to bring it up to 248 00:09:49,601 --> 00:09:51,921 Speaker 1: hopefully just maybe make some people take a breath and go, 249 00:09:52,001 --> 00:09:54,081 Speaker 1: oh shit, Yeah, okay, why am I in there? Why 250 00:09:54,081 --> 00:09:55,881 Speaker 1: would I send that to that person? Do I want 251 00:09:55,881 --> 00:09:57,641 Speaker 1: to be a part of that? Yeah, that's not helped 252 00:09:57,681 --> 00:10:00,361 Speaker 1: me in any way. No, thank you. Join a page 253 00:10:00,401 --> 00:10:03,241 Speaker 1: it's about uplifting women, or about growth, or about something 254 00:10:03,281 --> 00:10:06,681 Speaker 1: you're passionate about. Good time, so precious and so much 255 00:10:06,721 --> 00:10:09,281 Speaker 1: your energy. Yeah, the full energy exchange being in that 256 00:10:09,321 --> 00:10:13,921 Speaker 1: and it will drain and suck the life out of you. Yeah. 257 00:10:14,081 --> 00:10:18,001 Speaker 3: My other random thought is just because we've sparked this conversation. 258 00:10:18,081 --> 00:10:20,041 Speaker 3: Now it's brought up a conversation we're having the other 259 00:10:20,121 --> 00:10:24,321 Speaker 3: day that I just genuinely can't fathom sometimes why some 260 00:10:24,361 --> 00:10:27,841 Speaker 3: people who have fake profiles of user underscore one, two, three, 261 00:10:27,881 --> 00:10:29,561 Speaker 3: four five you. 262 00:10:29,441 --> 00:10:30,961 Speaker 1: Were blocking the other day, It's like, what are you doing? 263 00:10:30,961 --> 00:10:32,681 Speaker 1: You're like, I'm just blocking these fake profiles. 264 00:10:32,801 --> 00:10:33,641 Speaker 2: Oh I always do. 265 00:10:33,841 --> 00:10:36,201 Speaker 3: If I ever see a fake profile with no post, 266 00:10:36,321 --> 00:10:38,641 Speaker 3: no image, I would just block them immediately because I'm like, 267 00:10:38,681 --> 00:10:41,841 Speaker 3: you're obviously here for no good, and immediately I just 268 00:10:41,841 --> 00:10:42,721 Speaker 3: don't want a part of that. 269 00:10:43,121 --> 00:10:43,841 Speaker 2: It's just not worth it. 270 00:10:43,881 --> 00:10:45,361 Speaker 3: I love that boundary you have if you want to 271 00:10:45,401 --> 00:10:47,441 Speaker 3: follow me on a normal profile, follow me on. 272 00:10:47,361 --> 00:10:49,441 Speaker 2: A normal profile, normal, I know, do you know what 273 00:10:49,441 --> 00:10:49,721 Speaker 2: I mean? 274 00:10:50,001 --> 00:10:52,241 Speaker 1: Like, Or if they have a profile and it's like 275 00:10:52,721 --> 00:10:54,921 Speaker 1: this one the other day, it's like peace and puppies. 276 00:10:55,601 --> 00:10:57,361 Speaker 1: It's like, you're not peaceful. 277 00:10:56,681 --> 00:10:59,841 Speaker 3: You're literally trying to fight with me at six am 278 00:10:59,921 --> 00:11:00,601 Speaker 3: on a Saturday morning. 279 00:11:00,721 --> 00:11:02,601 Speaker 1: Literally you're not peaceful. So blocked. 280 00:11:02,681 --> 00:11:05,641 Speaker 3: I just genuinely can't understand how some would want to 281 00:11:05,681 --> 00:11:08,441 Speaker 3: spend their energy trying to misunderstand you and trying to 282 00:11:08,441 --> 00:11:10,441 Speaker 3: fight with you back and forth on a post when 283 00:11:10,801 --> 00:11:12,801 Speaker 3: you know, I just don't understand. 284 00:11:12,921 --> 00:11:14,921 Speaker 1: I don't think we ever will understand because it's not 285 00:11:14,921 --> 00:11:15,481 Speaker 1: what would ever do. 286 00:11:15,721 --> 00:11:17,761 Speaker 3: Like there's been some trolls and even like I feel 287 00:11:17,761 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 3: like we've responded like quite well back and been respectful 288 00:11:21,361 --> 00:11:24,401 Speaker 3: and kind and thoughtful and just like reflected back some things, 289 00:11:24,441 --> 00:11:25,961 Speaker 3: and then they just want to fight. And you can 290 00:11:26,001 --> 00:11:29,001 Speaker 3: see after like one to two to three responses that 291 00:11:29,041 --> 00:11:30,761 Speaker 3: they're there to argue with you and they're looking for 292 00:11:30,801 --> 00:11:32,801 Speaker 3: a fight, and to be honest, like it's just. 293 00:11:32,761 --> 00:11:35,281 Speaker 2: Not something I'm willing to entertain. Yeah, I'm just not. 294 00:11:35,561 --> 00:11:38,481 Speaker 1: Tiana manages our social media accounts and it's been cool, 295 00:11:38,561 --> 00:11:40,641 Speaker 1: especially the last couple of weeks when there has been 296 00:11:40,721 --> 00:11:44,521 Speaker 1: more hate just observing your responses. And then I've said 297 00:11:44,521 --> 00:11:46,001 Speaker 1: to you a couple of times when they reply back, 298 00:11:46,081 --> 00:11:47,601 Speaker 1: like are you going to respond again, You're like, I'll 299 00:11:47,641 --> 00:11:49,521 Speaker 1: do one more time than after that they've made up 300 00:11:49,521 --> 00:11:51,801 Speaker 1: their mind. I'm not going to keep fighting with someone 301 00:11:51,841 --> 00:11:55,801 Speaker 1: that is so committed to misunderstanding us. They're not here 302 00:11:55,841 --> 00:11:57,841 Speaker 1: to have a conversation. And I feel like you can 303 00:11:57,881 --> 00:12:00,121 Speaker 1: pick them quite well, but you'll always give everyone the 304 00:12:00,161 --> 00:12:02,401 Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. So you'll always reply once yeah 305 00:12:02,441 --> 00:12:05,161 Speaker 1: and explain the situation or help them see your different side, 306 00:12:05,321 --> 00:12:07,401 Speaker 1: and sometimes they come back in their suite, other times 307 00:12:07,481 --> 00:12:09,561 Speaker 1: not Yeah, I just trust you to make the right decision. 308 00:12:09,721 --> 00:12:10,721 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool here. 309 00:12:10,761 --> 00:12:13,601 Speaker 3: I appreciate that because it's just like you know, I'm 310 00:12:13,601 --> 00:12:15,041 Speaker 3: not here to say that no one gets to have 311 00:12:15,081 --> 00:12:17,321 Speaker 3: an opinion. I think everyone gets to have an opinion. 312 00:12:17,681 --> 00:12:20,481 Speaker 3: And I'm not mad at people for disagreeing with what 313 00:12:20,521 --> 00:12:23,281 Speaker 3: we post or something that we've shared, Like, I don't 314 00:12:23,281 --> 00:12:26,361 Speaker 3: blame them. I don't expect everyone to love what we post. However, 315 00:12:26,441 --> 00:12:28,441 Speaker 3: I do expect people who are going to come onto 316 00:12:28,441 --> 00:12:30,521 Speaker 3: our social media is to come with respect. Yes, and 317 00:12:30,521 --> 00:12:32,721 Speaker 3: if they don't have that, like I just don't have 318 00:12:32,761 --> 00:12:35,761 Speaker 3: time for it. But also even when they don't, I 319 00:12:35,761 --> 00:12:38,121 Speaker 3: can still have respect and still resk. We can still 320 00:12:38,121 --> 00:12:40,761 Speaker 3: have respect and respond in a respectful way because we 321 00:12:40,801 --> 00:12:42,561 Speaker 3: don't need to stoop to that level, like I'm never 322 00:12:42,601 --> 00:12:44,401 Speaker 3: going to be match someone in that frequency and that 323 00:12:44,601 --> 00:12:48,401 Speaker 3: energy of what they're coming at us for when we're 324 00:12:48,441 --> 00:12:50,641 Speaker 3: just doing our best to share like our magic with 325 00:12:50,681 --> 00:12:52,521 Speaker 3: the well it's. 326 00:12:52,361 --> 00:12:53,921 Speaker 1: Been for me to learn from you too. I feel 327 00:12:53,921 --> 00:12:55,641 Speaker 1: like I'm getting a lot better at my responses where 328 00:12:55,681 --> 00:12:57,881 Speaker 1: sometimes I get a bit defensive and I think it's 329 00:12:57,921 --> 00:13:01,681 Speaker 1: just been fifteen years online. I'm like why, Like I 330 00:13:01,761 --> 00:13:04,641 Speaker 1: get a bit worn down sometimes, but it's been awesome 331 00:13:04,681 --> 00:13:06,961 Speaker 1: to learn from you how to communicate away and allow 332 00:13:07,001 --> 00:13:09,321 Speaker 1: people to have their opinions, for you to still stand 333 00:13:09,401 --> 00:13:12,361 Speaker 1: up for yourself as well. But just yeah, I open 334 00:13:12,401 --> 00:13:16,281 Speaker 1: up different conversations. It's really cool. I'm enjoying them coming 335 00:13:16,281 --> 00:13:17,921 Speaker 1: in for us to be able to respond in a 336 00:13:17,921 --> 00:13:20,201 Speaker 1: way we're proud of. Yeah, and hopefully see if we 337 00:13:20,241 --> 00:13:23,241 Speaker 1: can shift their perspective on us all the topic or 338 00:13:23,281 --> 00:13:25,601 Speaker 1: whatever it is that's upset them. And then if they're not, 339 00:13:25,601 --> 00:13:27,481 Speaker 1: it's like okay to say, you don't have to be here. 340 00:13:28,121 --> 00:13:29,881 Speaker 3: So just to give you guys some context, like there 341 00:13:29,961 --> 00:13:31,841 Speaker 3: was one that we got in the DMS not that 342 00:13:31,881 --> 00:13:34,601 Speaker 3: long ago, and obviously if you guys have been listening, 343 00:13:34,641 --> 00:13:37,401 Speaker 3: and you guys know that, unfortunately Ramber has passed away 344 00:13:37,521 --> 00:13:40,001 Speaker 3: and all of that situation had happened, and essentially what 345 00:13:40,081 --> 00:13:42,921 Speaker 3: happened from then, I took over the social media and 346 00:13:42,961 --> 00:13:44,761 Speaker 3: I just let everybody know that as well, and I 347 00:13:44,841 --> 00:13:48,081 Speaker 3: posted continuously about our Valentine's Day event because it was 348 00:13:48,121 --> 00:13:50,921 Speaker 3: the week prior, and you know, we have work commitments, 349 00:13:50,961 --> 00:13:52,761 Speaker 3: we've got contracts in place for what we're doing with 350 00:13:52,801 --> 00:13:54,001 Speaker 3: the podcast. 351 00:13:53,521 --> 00:13:55,521 Speaker 1: Wing in for the event. Yeah, we can to the event. 352 00:13:55,561 --> 00:13:56,641 Speaker 2: We couldn't cancel the event. 353 00:13:56,721 --> 00:13:59,001 Speaker 3: And we got a DM and someone had said directly 354 00:13:59,041 --> 00:14:02,161 Speaker 3: to me that I was money hungry because I wasn't 355 00:14:02,321 --> 00:14:05,041 Speaker 3: making the social media go dark for a week. I 356 00:14:05,161 --> 00:14:08,161 Speaker 3: wasn't respectful, It was disrespectful for me to continue posting 357 00:14:08,201 --> 00:14:09,681 Speaker 3: what I was posting, and that it looked like I 358 00:14:09,721 --> 00:14:11,401 Speaker 3: was money hungry, and that I didn't care about what 359 00:14:11,441 --> 00:14:14,161 Speaker 3: was happening. And I just responded to this woman and 360 00:14:14,281 --> 00:14:16,681 Speaker 3: just like sent a long message and just gave her 361 00:14:16,681 --> 00:14:18,721 Speaker 3: some context and just said like, hey, I really don't 362 00:14:18,721 --> 00:14:22,241 Speaker 3: appreciate your message. Is really disrespectful, like it's really hurtful 363 00:14:22,281 --> 00:14:24,521 Speaker 3: when everyone is grieving, and then gave her some context 364 00:14:24,601 --> 00:14:27,561 Speaker 3: about what's actually happening behind closed doors, and she actually 365 00:14:27,561 --> 00:14:29,241 Speaker 3: came good, and she was like, I'm so sorry, like 366 00:14:29,241 --> 00:14:31,321 Speaker 3: I shouldn't have seen it so black and white, but 367 00:14:31,401 --> 00:14:33,881 Speaker 3: I judged something just in the split moment, and she 368 00:14:33,881 --> 00:14:36,041 Speaker 3: took responsibility for it. So beautiful, and then she was like, 369 00:14:36,081 --> 00:14:36,801 Speaker 3: I actually love. 370 00:14:36,681 --> 00:14:38,841 Speaker 2: What you guys are posting. I appreciate what you guys do. 371 00:14:38,961 --> 00:14:41,681 Speaker 3: And you know, so it's just allowing people to have 372 00:14:42,001 --> 00:14:44,441 Speaker 3: their thoughts, their opinions and whatever it is that they 373 00:14:44,441 --> 00:14:46,441 Speaker 3: want to say, and then we can respond how have 374 00:14:46,601 --> 00:14:48,441 Speaker 3: we won? And then you know, if they come around, 375 00:14:48,481 --> 00:14:50,401 Speaker 3: they come around. If not, that's also okay too, but 376 00:14:50,521 --> 00:14:50,961 Speaker 3: just not here. 377 00:14:51,481 --> 00:14:54,201 Speaker 1: It is good to give context Sometimes sometimes I feel 378 00:14:54,201 --> 00:14:56,601 Speaker 1: in two minds too, wan of thoughts, like we didn't 379 00:14:56,641 --> 00:14:59,201 Speaker 1: owe anyone an explanation, not at all. But then sometimes 380 00:14:59,241 --> 00:15:01,081 Speaker 1: it is good to give context. I remember that reply. 381 00:15:01,321 --> 00:15:03,641 Speaker 1: There's been so much come through, but I shouldn't be online. 382 00:15:03,641 --> 00:15:05,961 Speaker 1: We shouldn't be doing this and doing that throughout this 383 00:15:06,001 --> 00:15:09,041 Speaker 1: whole thing. But it's like, you guys are seeing literally 384 00:15:09,081 --> 00:15:12,001 Speaker 1: a tiny snippet of what we're posting about work. You 385 00:15:12,001 --> 00:15:14,161 Speaker 1: don't know about the twenty three other hours of the day, 386 00:15:14,441 --> 00:15:17,081 Speaker 1: what we're doing to support someone who's grieving, or support 387 00:15:17,081 --> 00:15:20,361 Speaker 1: their family, or support our friends, or support ourselves. Actually 388 00:15:20,361 --> 00:15:22,161 Speaker 1: have no idea, And I think that's a really important 389 00:15:22,201 --> 00:15:25,841 Speaker 1: thing to remember. Whoever you're following online, you're seeing two 390 00:15:25,881 --> 00:15:29,761 Speaker 1: percent of their day literally, and if they're sharing more great, 391 00:15:29,921 --> 00:15:32,161 Speaker 1: you can have more compassion for what they're trying to hold. 392 00:15:32,721 --> 00:15:35,081 Speaker 1: But it's just so easy to quickly jump to an 393 00:15:35,121 --> 00:15:37,881 Speaker 1: assumption that they're doing things wrong where they shouldn't be 394 00:15:37,921 --> 00:15:40,481 Speaker 1: doing something or showing up a certain way, but you 395 00:15:40,481 --> 00:15:43,121 Speaker 1: don't actually have context or understand what they actually have 396 00:15:43,201 --> 00:15:46,721 Speaker 1: to do. And me being online or us being online, Yes, 397 00:15:46,801 --> 00:15:49,641 Speaker 1: it's fun, but we are also in a contract. Yes, 398 00:15:49,681 --> 00:15:51,601 Speaker 1: I caught my podcasts which ducers and said I'm having 399 00:15:51,641 --> 00:15:53,521 Speaker 1: a week off, but didn't mean you could just take 400 00:15:53,561 --> 00:15:55,801 Speaker 1: a week off as well. You know, we have things 401 00:15:55,841 --> 00:15:58,081 Speaker 1: in place that we have to do in responsibilities and 402 00:15:58,561 --> 00:16:00,681 Speaker 1: bills to pay, things that need to be done. 403 00:16:00,801 --> 00:16:03,321 Speaker 3: And just because it looks a little different doesn't mean 404 00:16:03,321 --> 00:16:03,961 Speaker 3: that it's not work. 405 00:16:04,161 --> 00:16:06,521 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you go to an nine to five, it 406 00:16:06,521 --> 00:16:08,921 Speaker 1: doesn't mean our work is any less important. 407 00:16:09,041 --> 00:16:12,161 Speaker 3: We had this conversation the other day talking about how 408 00:16:12,561 --> 00:16:15,361 Speaker 3: just because people see the fun conversations that we have, 409 00:16:15,681 --> 00:16:17,681 Speaker 3: people don't recognize the amount of work that goes in 410 00:16:17,721 --> 00:16:20,561 Speaker 3: behind the behinds of what we're doing, especially with everything 411 00:16:20,601 --> 00:16:22,721 Speaker 3: that we're doing with the events, while we're doing the 412 00:16:22,761 --> 00:16:25,441 Speaker 3: social media's podcasting, all of that stuff, Like it's a 413 00:16:25,481 --> 00:16:28,561 Speaker 3: commitment it's still work at the end of the day. 414 00:16:28,561 --> 00:16:31,481 Speaker 3: It's commitments. We have responsibilities in the roles that we 415 00:16:31,561 --> 00:16:33,881 Speaker 3: both play, and it's really easy to look at what 416 00:16:33,921 --> 00:16:36,121 Speaker 3: we do and go, oh, wow, they're having so much fun. 417 00:16:36,201 --> 00:16:38,281 Speaker 3: That means that they don't have anything that's hard or 418 00:16:38,441 --> 00:16:41,281 Speaker 3: responsibility wise or commitments. It's just like, well, they're just 419 00:16:41,281 --> 00:16:43,121 Speaker 3: having a conversation and they go from the day. 420 00:16:43,441 --> 00:16:44,401 Speaker 2: It's so not like that. 421 00:16:44,721 --> 00:16:46,641 Speaker 1: And you know, or without the job that I have 422 00:16:46,841 --> 00:16:49,481 Speaker 1: and being online back to like the Megazi thing, I 423 00:16:49,521 --> 00:16:51,321 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to raise fifty thousand dollars. My 424 00:16:51,361 --> 00:16:54,041 Speaker 1: community got behind them. Yeah. I also wouldn't have been 425 00:16:54,081 --> 00:16:55,841 Speaker 1: able to be at Megsie's house as much as what 426 00:16:55,841 --> 00:16:58,201 Speaker 1: I was if I didn't have the job that I have. 427 00:16:58,761 --> 00:17:01,041 Speaker 1: Because I've shown up online and I've created this lifestyle, 428 00:17:01,081 --> 00:17:02,601 Speaker 1: I've been able to support megs in a way that 429 00:17:03,441 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: I have. And a lot of her friends work nine 430 00:17:05,641 --> 00:17:07,001 Speaker 1: to five and they couldn't go and be at a 431 00:17:07,041 --> 00:17:07,801 Speaker 1: house all the time. 432 00:17:08,041 --> 00:17:08,961 Speaker 2: You were there every day. 433 00:17:09,241 --> 00:17:11,681 Speaker 1: Yeah, But like, why should I be criticized for doing 434 00:17:11,681 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: that just because my job looks a little bit different. Yeah, 435 00:17:14,001 --> 00:17:15,521 Speaker 1: No matter what you do, there's going to be someone 436 00:17:15,521 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: that doesn't agree with it and someone that criticizes it 437 00:17:17,761 --> 00:17:19,321 Speaker 1: and thinks it's the wrong way. But no one can 438 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: tell you what's wrong or right, especially in grief. Everyone 439 00:17:22,801 --> 00:17:26,321 Speaker 1: grieves differently. Yeah, it's so interesting and hectic to go 440 00:17:26,441 --> 00:17:29,761 Speaker 1: through because even myself, I'm like one minute I'm okay 441 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,801 Speaker 1: and the next minute I'm just not. And it's such 442 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: an emotional rollercoaster. Yeah, it's really hard to navigate and 443 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,561 Speaker 1: just allow it all to be there. Yeah. 444 00:17:36,761 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 3: I think an important thing to note as well is 445 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:41,081 Speaker 3: like when you're seeing people on social media and you've 446 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,681 Speaker 3: just seen someone go through something heavy, and then they're 447 00:17:43,681 --> 00:17:46,601 Speaker 3: posting something happy or they're posting something and you think 448 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,161 Speaker 3: that they shouldn't be doing that. Can we just agree 449 00:17:49,321 --> 00:17:51,001 Speaker 3: and make a pact right now that we're going to 450 00:17:51,041 --> 00:17:54,441 Speaker 3: start assuming the best of people that like, no matter 451 00:17:54,441 --> 00:17:57,041 Speaker 3: what we see online, that there maybe even for you, 452 00:17:57,120 --> 00:17:59,721 Speaker 3: for example, people having something to say about you being 453 00:17:59,761 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: happy whilst grieving and doing all these things for business, 454 00:18:02,681 --> 00:18:04,801 Speaker 3: Like maybe you're just doing the best that you can. 455 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 3: Maybe you're trying to keep yourself afloat so that you 456 00:18:07,281 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 3: can hold everybody and continue to do so. 457 00:18:09,281 --> 00:18:10,321 Speaker 2: Like what you've been doing. 458 00:18:10,120 --> 00:18:12,561 Speaker 3: This whole time, Like, can we just agree to disagree 459 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 3: that we're going to start to assume the best and 460 00:18:14,281 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 3: not the worst of people, especially the people that we 461 00:18:16,921 --> 00:18:19,041 Speaker 3: say that we look up to and that we speak 462 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,041 Speaker 3: highly of and all these things. But then you know, 463 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 3: they do something, one wrong thing, and all of a 464 00:18:23,721 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: sudden it's you know it's wrong. No it's not, but 465 00:18:27,001 --> 00:18:29,481 Speaker 3: in people's eyes, yes, she's doing a wrong thing. 466 00:18:29,561 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: You shouldn't be happy. How could you be happy? How 467 00:18:31,521 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: could you post a dancing video? You know what? That 468 00:18:33,761 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: like two minutes of dancing might have been the highlight 469 00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: of my day that day. Maybe I was grieving, like 470 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,761 Speaker 1: this is truth, grieving and crying and having a really 471 00:18:41,761 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: fucking tough time, and then I got to just be 472 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,681 Speaker 1: silly and playful and be in that joy for a moment. 473 00:18:46,721 --> 00:18:48,641 Speaker 1: And this is something Megsi's taught me as well. It's 474 00:18:48,721 --> 00:18:51,521 Speaker 1: just to allow it all to be there. Because you're grieving. 475 00:18:51,681 --> 00:18:53,521 Speaker 1: Does that mean you can't ever be happy again? Yeah? 476 00:18:53,521 --> 00:18:55,201 Speaker 1: Does that mean you can't laugh with your kids again? 477 00:18:55,241 --> 00:18:57,481 Speaker 1: Does that mean you can't show up online and share 478 00:18:57,481 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: your story? There's no rules as to how grief is 479 00:19:00,441 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: and we need to allow Megsi and anyone listening grieving 480 00:19:03,681 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: to have their process exactly how it feels good for 481 00:19:06,281 --> 00:19:09,761 Speaker 1: them and for me. I jump amongst it all and 482 00:19:09,761 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: I allow all that to be there. I allow myself 483 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,281 Speaker 1: to be happy and have fun during my work of 484 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: being with my kids and being silly or play with 485 00:19:15,521 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: my husband, that I allow myself to go to Megsi's 486 00:19:17,481 --> 00:19:19,601 Speaker 1: house and fucking cry for three hours and be there 487 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: with her and hold her and that and talk about 488 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,561 Speaker 1: whatever she needs to talk about in that moment. It's 489 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: allowing all of it to be there and not demonizing 490 00:19:26,761 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: any of it. Yeah, it's turned into a rant. I 491 00:19:29,681 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: love it. Oh, I love that. What's your next one? 492 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,721 Speaker 3: I just wanted to say, the difference in the opportunities 493 00:19:37,761 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 3: from when I was younger to the next generations of 494 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 3: online work is bizarre. Like when you think about this 495 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: all the time, I can't tell you the amount of 496 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,001 Speaker 3: hard work and dirt that I had in my nose, 497 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: literally in my head, on my body from working in 498 00:19:52,961 --> 00:19:57,001 Speaker 3: construction for five bucking years to all of the younger 499 00:19:57,041 --> 00:19:59,561 Speaker 3: generations being able to clock in and clock out to 500 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,961 Speaker 3: be social media marketers or managers, or to have online 501 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,281 Speaker 3: roles and it's just unlike, I love it for them, 502 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: I really do. But we talk about the contrast of 503 00:20:10,041 --> 00:20:12,401 Speaker 3: the type of work that we had to do back 504 00:20:12,441 --> 00:20:16,321 Speaker 3: then to what people had the opportunity now, how crazy. 505 00:20:16,360 --> 00:20:17,321 Speaker 3: It's polarizing. 506 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: And then you think about the generation above us they 507 00:20:20,681 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: had to work trivial times harder, and above them it 508 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: almost gets like easier and more fun as the generations 509 00:20:27,241 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: go along. 510 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:28,321 Speaker 2: Yeah. 511 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: Like, it's not to say anything's bad, because no, I 512 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,401 Speaker 1: love the opportunities for gen Z. Even my job now 513 00:20:33,481 --> 00:20:35,441 Speaker 1: gets to be like that. Yes, but I think back 514 00:20:35,481 --> 00:20:36,961 Speaker 1: to what my mum had to do and how hard 515 00:20:37,001 --> 00:20:39,681 Speaker 1: she had to work for a dollar compared to what yeah, 516 00:20:39,721 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: gen Z's do now, I'm like, whoa, it is just 517 00:20:42,441 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: random thoughts. It's just random thoughts. 518 00:20:44,201 --> 00:20:46,121 Speaker 3: It's just so cool because I honestly, I just think 519 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,801 Speaker 3: about like, shoveling dirt for like twelve hours. 520 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,441 Speaker 1: I don't know how the fuck you did that day. 521 00:20:51,561 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: That is not from me. Oh my god, you'd have 522 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: been the sexiest girl on the side, that's for sure. 523 00:20:56,721 --> 00:20:59,201 Speaker 1: So funny. I was thinking the other day about how 524 00:20:59,241 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: when life feels really really comfortable and good and content 525 00:21:03,561 --> 00:21:06,801 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden something comes in. It's 526 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: like I literally I feel every time I voice that 527 00:21:09,001 --> 00:21:11,721 Speaker 1: to Steve when I'm like, oh my gosh, life right now, 528 00:21:11,721 --> 00:21:14,161 Speaker 1: can it freeze? It feels so good. I'm so content, 529 00:21:14,801 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: I swear. The next day or the next week something 530 00:21:17,521 --> 00:21:20,041 Speaker 1: comes in to just throw me off, and not in 531 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,321 Speaker 1: a pour me victim way. It's like I need to 532 00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:25,321 Speaker 1: learn whatever that lesson is to help me level up, 533 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:28,041 Speaker 1: because I never want to be comfor. I always invite 534 00:21:28,041 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: and ask growth in. I love it, Yeah, always like 535 00:21:30,201 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: bring it, bring it, like I'm ready. But you know, 536 00:21:32,721 --> 00:21:35,041 Speaker 1: I always have random thoughts about that always happens. And 537 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,281 Speaker 1: then because I have that thought process, I'm like, am 538 00:21:37,281 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: I manifesting it? I'm putting it out there. Yeah, But 539 00:21:41,481 --> 00:21:43,521 Speaker 1: in the moment, I'm like, no, I just said life 540 00:21:43,561 --> 00:21:45,241 Speaker 1: is really content. I'm happy in don't. 541 00:21:45,761 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: It's so funny. 542 00:21:46,481 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 3: It does happen like that sometimes though, because he's like, oh, 543 00:21:49,281 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 3: this is really good. 544 00:21:49,961 --> 00:21:52,001 Speaker 2: And then it's like boom, here's another lesson. Yeah, oh 545 00:21:52,041 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: you're feeling good. Oh boom, I think. 546 00:21:53,801 --> 00:21:56,521 Speaker 1: That traun was gone. It's back. 547 00:21:57,481 --> 00:21:57,681 Speaker 3: Yeah. 548 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: True, you thought you've done the word. 549 00:22:00,241 --> 00:22:03,161 Speaker 3: Here's another situation to help you heal that wound you. 550 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: Love so much. I just always think beyond that. I 551 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: love going in deep thoughts, but beyond that too, I'm like, 552 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: I want a big life. Yeah, I have to do 553 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,761 Speaker 1: big things and I have to get really uncomfortable and 554 00:22:13,761 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: I have to push myself. And if I want a 555 00:22:16,241 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: mediocre life, then all that wouldn't be happening for me. 556 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,561 Speaker 3: This is happening for me, not to me, And this 557 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,721 Speaker 3: is forever work right. Literally, we can do hard things. Literally, 558 00:22:25,761 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 3: we all can do hard things. 559 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:27,801 Speaker 1: Love it. 560 00:22:27,961 --> 00:22:29,521 Speaker 3: This is really random, but it has to do with 561 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,721 Speaker 3: going to the Billie EARI concept. I remember thinking when 562 00:22:32,721 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 3: the tickets went on sale, Oh do I really want 563 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,161 Speaker 3: to go see her that bad? I'm not really much 564 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,281 Speaker 3: of like a die hard fan for like really anyone, 565 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 3: So I was like, oh, I'm not really it's going 566 00:22:40,761 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 3: to be worth it kind of thing, and I was like, 567 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: four hundred dollars, can I justify that? 568 00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 2: Whatever? 569 00:22:44,801 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 3: When I realized that it was sold out, I realized that, 570 00:22:47,521 --> 00:22:49,441 Speaker 3: like it was something that I really wanted to experience, 571 00:22:49,481 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 3: and I. 572 00:22:49,681 --> 00:22:51,001 Speaker 1: Knew regret not going to Taylor too. 573 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 3: I regret not going to Taylor, and I just remember 574 00:22:52,921 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 3: thinking in that moment where else does this show up 575 00:22:55,201 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 3: in my life? Like, where else do I try to 576 00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:02,321 Speaker 3: convince myself that I don't need something because of whatever reason, 577 00:23:02,441 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 3: whatever way I justify it. Instead of just going I 578 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 3: really want to experience this thing, how about I just 579 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,961 Speaker 3: do the experience, live the experience, have the moment, go 580 00:23:12,041 --> 00:23:14,521 Speaker 3: to the place, do the holiday. You know how many 581 00:23:14,561 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 3: times do we potentially limit ourselves from not experiencing things 582 00:23:18,721 --> 00:23:20,121 Speaker 3: because we justify. 583 00:23:20,441 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: That we don't need it, that we don't need to 584 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: deny ourselves of it. 585 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:23,961 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. 586 00:23:23,921 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 3: Just really a cool moment because I was like, me, 587 00:23:26,041 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 3: wanting to go to Billy is not for anybody else. 588 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 3: This is one of those things that was like a 589 00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: Tiana wants. 590 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: To experience this. 591 00:23:31,921 --> 00:23:33,561 Speaker 3: And I was like, you know what, how about the 592 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 3: next time that you want to do something, you just 593 00:23:34,921 --> 00:23:36,561 Speaker 3: buy the tickets fucking from the first. 594 00:23:36,321 --> 00:23:37,921 Speaker 2: Go just do it. 595 00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:38,681 Speaker 1: I love that. 596 00:23:38,681 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 3: That's really cool because you grow and learn and it 597 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,881 Speaker 3: was a really beautiful experience. 598 00:23:43,001 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: Like it's all about memories. What are you working so 599 00:23:45,521 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: hard for if you're not going to spend the money 600 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,161 Speaker 1: on the thing or the adventure or the memory. Yeah, 601 00:23:49,441 --> 00:23:51,681 Speaker 1: keep saving when you're eating. You've got money in the bank. Cool, 602 00:23:52,201 --> 00:23:52,961 Speaker 1: what do you do with that? 603 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 3: The backstory on this and why I'm thinking this is 604 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,121 Speaker 3: because a couple of years ago, I was really bad 605 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,161 Speaker 3: with money, so like I had just a not very 606 00:24:00,201 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 3: healthy relationship with money and not a lot of experience 607 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,041 Speaker 3: with money. So when I would get it, I would 608 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,521 Speaker 3: spend it on silly stuff. And then I had a 609 00:24:07,561 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 3: boundary with myself and I was like, we're not going 610 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 3: to buy anything outside of essentials. And I realized that 611 00:24:12,681 --> 00:24:15,321 Speaker 3: I still have that mindset now of I'm not going 612 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,761 Speaker 3: to buy anything outside of essentials. And I was like, fuck, 613 00:24:17,801 --> 00:24:21,121 Speaker 3: how many times have I limited myself from experiencing things 614 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,001 Speaker 3: simply because I'm like, no. 615 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,041 Speaker 2: No, no, don't spend, don't spend, don't spend. 616 00:24:25,281 --> 00:24:27,241 Speaker 1: You know you had that realization, I think maybe a 617 00:24:27,241 --> 00:24:29,401 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago when you're like, oh, you've got 618 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,561 Speaker 1: so many nice dresses and like, I love shopping. Yeah, 619 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,601 Speaker 1: it's hobby. I really enjoyed. You're like, fuck, I really 620 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,321 Speaker 1: deny myself of buying new clothes. Yeah, I've still got 621 00:24:36,321 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: this mentality that I'm not allowed to spend. Yeah, it's like, good, 622 00:24:39,561 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: buy that dress, Go treat yourself. 623 00:24:41,001 --> 00:24:42,801 Speaker 3: Oh and you know what, it was really productive at 624 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 3: the time, Like it was, Yeah, it was what I 625 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: needed at the time, But I realized now that my 626 00:24:47,801 --> 00:24:50,041 Speaker 3: life has changed and as my life has evolved, I'm like, 627 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 3: I don't necessarily need to keep doing those things, Like 628 00:24:52,481 --> 00:24:55,161 Speaker 3: I'm allowed to have moments where I give myself those things. 629 00:24:55,321 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 2: And it's just a really. 630 00:24:56,041 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 3: Beautiful lesson as well to just for anyone listening that 631 00:24:59,481 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 3: you get to invest in yourself. Yes, no matter what 632 00:25:02,681 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 3: that may be, whether it's an experience, whether it it's 633 00:25:05,241 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 3: the beautiful dress, whether it's a new lip liner, where 634 00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:10,761 Speaker 3: it's something that's ten dollars a fucking coffee every morning, 635 00:25:10,761 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 3: like whatever it is that is your thing, just know 636 00:25:14,041 --> 00:25:15,321 Speaker 3: that you're allowed. 637 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: To have that and you don't have to carry any 638 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: shame for it. 639 00:25:17,561 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: And investing in yourself in this way is only going 640 00:25:19,681 --> 00:25:22,001 Speaker 3: to bring you a better quality of life anyway, and 641 00:25:22,041 --> 00:25:25,241 Speaker 3: that's what we're all after, is a better quality of life. 642 00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:28,041 Speaker 2: I love that, that's mine. That's what I've got for today. 643 00:25:28,481 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: So beautiful that anyways, they were just some random thoughts 644 00:25:31,681 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: we thought would pop in. Let us stuff you guys 645 00:25:33,521 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: like this style of episode because we have lots of 646 00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: conversations about random shit like this all the time, and 647 00:25:39,441 --> 00:25:41,001 Speaker 1: it's cool to bring it in because when you talk 648 00:25:41,041 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: about something, I normally learned something as well, or I 649 00:25:43,561 --> 00:25:46,521 Speaker 1: it makes me inquire about myself too, so I think 650 00:25:46,521 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: it's really empowering and vice versa. I love it. Thanks guys, 651 00:25:49,961 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: we'll see you in the next episode. 652 00:25:51,761 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: Bye bye,