Speaker 1: Better than the Lego better than the Lego.
Speaker 2: Coops. Here we go.
Speaker 3: We've made its final podcast. I think final one.
Speaker 1: Off the top. I want to talk about the Panthers.
Speaker 3: Firstly, let's talk about last weekend before we get into.
Speaker 1: The Grand Final.
Speaker 3: Off the top, one of the best thought out sequence
Speaker 3: plays that I've seen leading up to Penrith's first try
Speaker 3: starts off to Nathan Cleary London.
Speaker 1: A little bit of pressure Penrith.
Speaker 3: And forty twenty third tackle and you see when he
Speaker 3: works down, he walks down and he turns around, he
Speaker 3: can he'll start communicating what he wants from this next set,
Speaker 3: right is what we're going to do now this I
Speaker 3: just love the way they play this out. So they
Speaker 3: take it up firstly, which will be Leota to.
Speaker 2: Go on full control of the team right there.
Speaker 1: And you're watching here.
Speaker 3: They hit the far post area, a little play for
Speaker 3: the player to start with, typically inside ball for jer Haaris.
Speaker 3: Then they lay the far past. Now watch Nathan here.
Speaker 3: This is crucial. He gets there and straight away he
Speaker 3: presents himself early, so carnally go here we go here,
Speaker 3: let's get up on him, up on him. No, we're
Speaker 3: going to take one more and it just it's wrong
Speaker 3: foot him. They're going to get back on the line
Speaker 3: and the next play he's caught him on their heels.
Speaker 4: He did the similar thing in the Grand Final, kicked
Speaker 4: that forty twenty that ignited the comeback. He's picking on
Speaker 4: lazy wingers to start with, So when Nathan clearly wants
Speaker 4: to kick of forty twenty, he's up in the front
Speaker 4: line as opposed to behind Oao and then directing that set.
Speaker 4: I love the fact that Leo would carry with It's
Speaker 4: like telling a lie with a sequence, absolutely and then
Speaker 4: made them come up then go back. So there was
Speaker 4: multiple times whether the edge defense of the Sharks thought
Speaker 4: that Nathan was going to shift the time that they
Speaker 4: didn't have the energy of the line speed to get up.
Speaker 4: And it's picking on Nico Hines like he was under pressure.
Speaker 4: Putting runners inside and outside just made him make a decision, and.
Speaker 3: He exactly targeting there and actually also targeting Tellerchuies his
Speaker 3: ability to have the gas and the tank to shut
Speaker 3: outside in, to shut the space, and he was slow
Speaker 3: to the part.
Speaker 2: Play we'll come again this weekend.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, we're going to talk about that in a second,
Speaker 3: because yeah, I found it interesting after the game the
Speaker 3: press conference with Ivan, I've got some thoughts about that. Firstly,
Speaker 3: the other one is we talk about the inside balls
Speaker 3: all the time, and a fellow said to me, why
Speaker 3: doesn't penwith just take just take the ball up, get forward,
Speaker 3: just w when Nathan handles the ball. When the ball
Speaker 3: hits Nathan's hands, most times the defense sort of sit
Speaker 3: on their heels and they freeze.
Speaker 1: In fact, the defense sort of flexes open.
Speaker 3: A little bit because they're so aware of his threat
Speaker 3: not just to run, but to push the ball to
Speaker 3: the edge. So a lot of times it's just always
Speaker 3: an easy ten meters for the middles. It's just a
Speaker 3: really simple basic thing. But again another thing that just
Speaker 3: takes pressure off his forwards.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll talk about it in terms of what the
Speaker 4: storm have to do, but they have to counter that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they have to get the line speed and shut that down.
Speaker 4: When you're in a rhythm like Nathan, what you need
Speaker 4: to do is throw him completely off. He needs to
Speaker 4: have one Some of those runners not get avare his
Speaker 4: line play the balls, so he feels like he has
Speaker 4: to go back to a normal one off carry. Get
Speaker 4: Mitch Kenny more involved, but it's the power of the
Speaker 4: Penith system at play.
Speaker 1: One more thing on Penrith.
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about this later, but watching the
Speaker 3: Penwouth big guys, they've been playing a really hard style
Speaker 3: of football for about five years, a lot of big games.
Speaker 3: To me, they just starting to look a little tired, don't.
Speaker 3: But there's certain things that I'm saying that they do.
Speaker 3: But what's helping their cause is the amount of work
Speaker 3: the outside backs to I mean, look at this is
Speaker 3: a typical set. They kick down field, Dylan Edwards, well,
Speaker 3: he does the initial run, gets forward, he plays the
Speaker 3: football surprise surprise on play two, so he punches forward
Speaker 3: that extra one or two movies through the leg drive
Speaker 3: he got Taruva then coming from the other side of
Speaker 3: the field to take the hit up. Now okay, first
Speaker 3: time we've soon a forward isaaah, take the ball up
Speaker 3: lightweight forward, then finish with Dylan Edwards again.
Speaker 1: Then let's get it out of there.
Speaker 3: That's just alleviating so much pressure off Fish and theoda.
Speaker 2: It's conserving energy.
Speaker 4: It's been effective, and that's the Penith system again at
Speaker 4: work and the outside backs.
Speaker 2: Alamodi didn't have a carry.
Speaker 4: He got that kick chase in so when one works,
Speaker 4: the other one rests, conserves energy and they compliment each
Speaker 4: other all over the field.
Speaker 2: It's going to be a hell of a game.
Speaker 4: And to be able to stop Penrith from winning Melbourne Storm,
Speaker 4: we have to stop some of that.
Speaker 3: On Melbourne Storm, we'll talk about Nelson and the fact
Speaker 3: that he's likely to miss this or he's going to
Speaker 3: fight it. As we're recording this, he hasn't gone to judiciary.
Speaker 3: But the Storm the mental toughness to be leading at
Speaker 3: halftime twenty four to six, and then the Roosters come
Speaker 3: out a ten minute period and go try and try
Speaker 3: where it goes twenty four to twenty six. I Regon
Speaker 3: twenty four to eighteen. Sorry, I reckon most sides there
Speaker 3: would start to tighten up a little bit. They feel
Speaker 3: like we're on the slide of the moment and slung
Speaker 3: the other way. They didn't miss a beat. They met
Speaker 3: it with physicality and aggression and just bludgeoned over the
Speaker 3: top of the Rooster.
Speaker 4: I thought that performance from Melbourne was an indication of
Speaker 4: a team at the peak of there powers right now.
Speaker 4: The week off after winning Week one, they were fresh.
Speaker 4: They just played everything faster, like they play the ball speed,
Speaker 4: their line speed, their skill and execution.
Speaker 2: The try that hows.
Speaker 4: Scored when Pabinow's and quick tap like that was just
Speaker 4: moving faster than the opposition. I like the fact that
Speaker 4: Storm a consistent team like Penrith. They don't give away
Speaker 4: cheap possession to the oppositions. But the good players are
Speaker 4: playing well jeez Like it's almost the perfect ingredients of
Speaker 4: a premiership winning team. Same as the Penrith path. You
Speaker 4: do the basics better than anyone else. I'm talking defendwell,
Speaker 4: completion rate, good kicking, good discipline. There are four things
Speaker 4: you must do.
Speaker 2: In our game. They do it better than anyone else.
Speaker 4: But then the rise to the top. Your best players
Speaker 4: need to be the best player and both teams are
Speaker 4: doing that.
Speaker 3: Likes a fortune as far as injuries and freshness concerned,
Speaker 3: Like we have strength and conditioners and all this, but
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, sometimes it just lacks.
Speaker 3: Sometimes fatigue just gets indy at the back end of
Speaker 3: the year. Where with Melbourne this time all their creatives
Speaker 3: are fresh. So Munster's been preserved because of the fact
Speaker 3: he's had the injuries. He through the injuries, his peaked
Speaker 3: form Jerome's in the form of his life. Pappenhausen is
Speaker 3: finally fingers crossed through this horror period and is hitting
Speaker 3: top four and Harry Grant last year at this point
Speaker 3: Harry was he was wobbling, He looked just about going.
Speaker 1: He looks tremendous.
Speaker 2: I think this is.
Speaker 4: Where this game is one and lost in terms of
Speaker 4: the storm Spine versus the best defense we've seen in
Speaker 4: a long time. If Penrith defensively can stop the storm
Speaker 4: Spine from running the ball yep, I think they win.
Speaker 4: If storm Spying get up and going, I think they win.
Speaker 4: That's where it sits for me, and I'm with you.
Speaker 4: I think Papenhausen, the footwork and acceleration of Munster and
Speaker 4: Hughes on either side. If you can get Papenhausen one
Speaker 4: on one speed like you did on the weekend to
Speaker 4: the Rooster's edge defenders, he is team for me. Could
Speaker 4: be the guy that just turns out one opportunity into
Speaker 4: a line breaker a try.
Speaker 3: When you watch Jerown, who will go gun barrel straight,
Speaker 3: but then he'll hit pap and Hous on a sweep
Speaker 3: and suddenly he's going like a rocket.
Speaker 1: He just pulls that defensi apart.
Speaker 3: If we look at the first two Melbourne tries a
Speaker 3: perfect example. Luke here, like he's forcing experienced guys to
Speaker 3: break the cardinal rules of defense, don't slide till the
Speaker 3: ball goes pasture. But Luke is so urgent to try
Speaker 3: to protect the three on two on the edge that
Speaker 3: he slides. And it's similar to the next try again Luke.
Speaker 3: You watch Luke squeeze in here. But what happens is
Speaker 3: all of a sudden he's got to go on Paps
Speaker 3: and he can't help it.
Speaker 1: Overchase.
Speaker 4: And if I'm Melbourne Storm, I'm telling Ryan Papenhausen to
Speaker 4: stretch Nathan Cleary. When Nathan clearly has to stretch that
Speaker 4: army in a tackle and reach for someone like Papenhausen,
Speaker 4: that's when the shoulder might be in a really uncomfortable
Speaker 4: position because he can deal with things closed defensively, but
Speaker 4: when he's been stretched like that Jarring on the weekend,
Speaker 4: he had to have both armed stretched. So the speed
Speaker 4: of Papenhausen could be a huge indicator in this game.
Speaker 1: Cooper, just two things for it's over to you.
Speaker 3: Interesting start of the year interviewing Nathan Cleary, and he
Speaker 3: spoke about the twenty twenty loss to the Melbourne Storm
Speaker 3: and how that has made this playing squad been a
Speaker 3: big part of this dynasty from Penrith. He said, we
Speaker 3: went into that game and we look back now and
Speaker 3: we realize we'll playing like boys. They're playing like men,
Speaker 3: and they bullied us and we said never again.
Speaker 1: Well it's come full sir. Yeah, so this is they're
Speaker 1: looking for payback.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's going to be a huge game.
Speaker 4: In terms of breaking this down, I was going to
Speaker 4: try and dive into a couple of things what the
Speaker 4: Storm must do to win and what Penrith must do.
Speaker 4: This is an odd one and I'd love your opinion
Speaker 4: on this. In terms of the kickoff to the contest, right,
Speaker 4: Nathan is the king of Penrith, and if you're going
Speaker 4: to go into you need to go after the king directly.
Speaker 2: Now, this is a weird one.
Speaker 4: If I'm the Melbourne Store, Nathan is at the forty
Speaker 4: meter line, just in off at the front line, I'm
Speaker 4: actually going to kick it to Nathan and I want
Speaker 4: him to take the first carry and I would make
Speaker 4: a statement physically about picking up dragging him out throwing
Speaker 4: him around, just make him he didn't land the ball
Speaker 4: about thirty meters other thirty meters a little sandwich and
Speaker 4: he has to get it.
Speaker 2: And then just everyone take the handbreak off.
Speaker 1: It's interesting.
Speaker 3: So take that first contact out of his hand.
Speaker 4: I'd almost give give away penalty if you if you
Speaker 4: want to rough him up, if you want to like
Speaker 4: stay at the top, lay down, whatever, don't give away
Speaker 4: ten in the bit.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying going to break the.
Speaker 4: Law, make a statement because he's the spirit of that
Speaker 4: team and it's a strange one to do off the kickoff,
Speaker 4: Like if I'm Melbourne, I'm choosing to kick off and
Speaker 4: I'd be doing that.
Speaker 2: The other one we spoke about.
Speaker 4: Is Paris turning the ball back inside right so they
Speaker 4: get a lot of momentum from that. They feel in
Speaker 4: the rhythm of their play. And this is them doing
Speaker 4: it on the weekend. See, our Sharks are just a
Speaker 4: little bit disconnected on the inside when they lay off.
Speaker 4: Sometimes they get it good, sometimes they miss the beat.
Speaker 4: Step up forward, this one moving forward. I like that
Speaker 4: from the Sharks. That's what the Storm have to do.
Speaker 4: If they're passive like that one. It allows Nathan to
Speaker 4: generate momentum and play the ball speed this one here,
Speaker 4: move forward, take the handbrake off. So I think defensively
Speaker 4: the middle forward line speed. Once they do those drop
Speaker 4: off players, He's a key for the Melbourne stim Yeah.
Speaker 3: I totally agree with the coops and I think they
Speaker 3: Whilst I wouldn't go outside in aggressively, I think you
Speaker 3: need to squeeze in slightly because with Nathan, I'm just
Speaker 3: trying to think. I can't remember him going across an
Speaker 3: inside ball and going dummy under and throwing the long pass.
Speaker 3: Usually it's up hits it, undeath, or he's gonna dummy.
Speaker 3: He goes dummy and shoot.
Speaker 4: And is when we talk about line speed to always
Speaker 4: talk about the edge of fence getting up in front
Speaker 4: of the middle, and sometimes the middle filling behind in
Speaker 4: case of a linebreak. What I'm saying is, don't worry
Speaker 4: about filling the behind, go forward. Particularly when Nathan runs
Speaker 4: across field. I almost would someone take the handbrake off
Speaker 4: and fire out a line like it's almost like outside
Speaker 4: in pressure but from the inside defense.
Speaker 2: If that makes sense.
Speaker 3: It does coop because you look and it's a lot
Speaker 3: we're talking about before is a lot. I thought that
Speaker 3: Kronulla paid too much respect for Nathan's ball playing, like
Speaker 3: when he was doing the inside balls, let's say before
Speaker 3: he caught and they went yep to hold hold and
Speaker 3: it's just easy meters where you're right.
Speaker 1: You just got to get on the front foot and
Speaker 1: the last one.
Speaker 2: And I think it works for the Storm.
Speaker 4: Last time they played Perer, they scored two tries off kicks.
Speaker 4: They must compete on every fifth play tackle. This is
Speaker 4: the one kicking it straight. Here to deal with Edwards
Speaker 4: whin warbricks, some tall timber gets through and they must
Speaker 4: do this the Melbourne Storm if they had to win,
Speaker 4: I think they score a couple of tries off kicks.
Speaker 4: You've got to Edwards and Truber. Again, we always talk
Speaker 4: about it. Not the tallest of outside backs. But here
Speaker 4: bring to to the ballcha don't let him sit back
Speaker 4: on that ten meter line. We always talk about kicking
Speaker 4: the ball near the try line. Watch this foot leg speed,
Speaker 4: footsteps need to make Edwards and top Iron Thruver walk
Speaker 4: at those balls because as you showed before they catch,
Speaker 4: they run, they get their rid of they do anything.
Speaker 4: We always talk about trying to kick the ball as
Speaker 4: close to the trail. One as possible, I'm going to say,
Speaker 4: bring that ten to fifteen meters forward and make it
Speaker 4: a context.
Speaker 1: Pushing back down'tum at all. And Two what coops.
Speaker 3: It's funny how one thing you can do in the
Speaker 3: game well triggers into other areas.
Speaker 1: So if you're doing.
Speaker 3: That and you squash squashing their play one and you
Speaker 3: squashing their play two, suddenly the Penrith middles got to
Speaker 3: start working harder. Suddenly, then their middle start become more
Speaker 3: vulnerable for when the Storm start peppering the right through
Speaker 3: the middle of the field.
Speaker 4: So three things I think Melbourne Storm sort of must
Speaker 4: do to win Flip side.
Speaker 3: Well, the Panthers just once that you wrote something else
Speaker 3: down that you want to talk about.
Speaker 1: This really interests me.
Speaker 3: You said the Penrith interchange when there's an opportunity there
Speaker 3: when Leoder and Fisher Harris get replaced, a window where
Speaker 3: Melbourne need to pick up the temper yep.
Speaker 4: So I think Melbourne can't get caught behind off the faster.
Speaker 4: I think they need to be equal with what Fisher,
Speaker 4: Harris and Leota do twenty minutes either side of halftime.
Speaker 4: When you see a chink in one of the best teams.
Speaker 4: I think it's their bench rotation. Melbourne Storm, Spine score points,
Speaker 4: run the ball twenty minutes either halftime. I think when
Speaker 4: Lindsey Smith, Liam Henry, whoever else they've got out there,
Speaker 4: that's the time for the Melbourne Storm to sort of
Speaker 4: go up again.
Speaker 3: And it's interesting on the weekend, the moment Jared went off,
Speaker 3: there was a big change in the contest, Like Melbourne
Speaker 3: started winning the yardage battle and the Swine players started
Speaker 3: drawing through the middle.
Speaker 4: So I think that's the period of time did they dominate.
Speaker 4: For Panthers, I think they've got to start when their
Speaker 4: big boppers are on. But they've got this presence with
Speaker 4: already winning three in a row. This is the last
Speaker 4: ride and they did it to the Rouses in Week
Speaker 4: one of the finals. Just that pure power game. As
Speaker 4: we film this, we don't know about Nelson. If Nelson's
Speaker 4: not playing, this one hundred percent has to happen. Just
Speaker 4: Leoda Fish Harris just bang down that front door and
Speaker 4: put the Melbourne Storm on the back foot.
Speaker 3: It's finally keeps a lot with the Panthers the back
Speaker 3: third of the season. And we've spoken about this a
Speaker 3: few times is that they'd start that they were almost
Speaker 3: too happy to get into the arm wrestle and they started.
Speaker 3: They pride themselves on the kings of the arm wrestle
Speaker 3: on the grind, but they did too much of it
Speaker 3: in this game. What I liked about this game is
Speaker 3: they started fast and they gave themselves an opportunity to
Speaker 3: blow the roosters away.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's say redline about eight or ten, just
Speaker 4: trying to conserve energy for the long game. They just
Speaker 4: dialed it up to nine and a half and blew
Speaker 4: the Russ away. I think that's what they need to
Speaker 4: do for the Melbourne Storm.
Speaker 3: So that like a couple of years ago, Melbourne beat
Speaker 3: Penrith in Penrith and Penrith are on a big home run.
Speaker 3: Melbourne the first side for a long time to move
Speaker 3: them at home. I know for a fact going to
Speaker 3: that game. Melbourne's thing where we want to get to
Speaker 3: an arm wrestle with them because then we can do
Speaker 3: a Penrith on Penry.
Speaker 4: I think they're one of the few teams that can
Speaker 4: do it. Like normally are we consider kicking into touch
Speaker 4: and of that to stop the back three. But I
Speaker 4: think Melbourne Storm can roll with Penrith in the long game.
Speaker 4: I think they've got the same fitness levels, the same
Speaker 4: endurance levels, the same game style that holds up for
Speaker 4: long periods. I think it's a big thing here because
Speaker 4: if they go ten, twelve to fifteen minutes of football
Speaker 4: in action, the first team that cracks, that's a mini
Speaker 4: win for the opposition.
Speaker 3: How are they going to contain the creative team of
Speaker 3: Melbourne as a spine.
Speaker 2: So as I said, I think this is where it's
Speaker 2: won or lost in this game.
Speaker 4: It put a hell of a lot of pressure on
Speaker 4: the edgeback rolls in Garner and Martin. Martin will be
Speaker 4: up against Munster, Garner up against Hughes. If they have
Speaker 4: their best defensive performance in five years and shut down
Speaker 4: the running game of the spine of a Melbourne Storm,
Speaker 4: I think they win. Martin is an amazing back row.
Speaker 4: I think he can cover Munster. I don't know if
Speaker 4: Garner can stop Hughes, but that's where it sits for me.
Speaker 4: Those two halves can't get up and go, and if
Speaker 4: they've got a line break in them early in contest,
Speaker 4: like they're running game in the finals has been a lead,
Speaker 4: I think that is a good sign that Melbourne are
Speaker 4: getting on top. If they don't, it's a good sign
Speaker 4: that Peneth are getting job.
Speaker 1: It's funny. It's not funny what I was saying. That's funny.
Speaker 1: Absolutely is it funny?
Speaker 3: Hilarious the Melbourne Storm, there's no doubt the biggest threat
Speaker 3: for them is going through the middle. I mean they
Speaker 3: can push the ball at the edge, they're very good
Speaker 3: pushing the ball at the edge, but the primary threat
Speaker 3: is through the middle. So coops, if you're Melbourne, excuse me,
Speaker 3: if you're Penrith, do you just do you tighten a
Speaker 3: little bit more?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yes, And I think you've got to be able to
Speaker 4: play different styles in this game because I feel like
Speaker 4: it's going to be a brutal game, but there's going
Speaker 4: to be a game of chest in the same part.
Speaker 4: And for scoring points for Penrith, I think they attack
Speaker 4: Melbourne's centers. Yeah, Jamini on the right, this is exactly
Speaker 4: the play that we spoke about early. This will be
Speaker 4: Nick Mennie on the right side. I think that play
Speaker 4: is coming. And on the other side you've got Jack
Speaker 4: Howerth so assimilarate this play that was weak one of
Speaker 4: the finals. See how Jack Herth gets caught in no
Speaker 4: man's land. I think that is absolutely a target for
Speaker 4: clearing his crew here again me no eyes for Swaliti
Speaker 4: out the back, good pass there, I think that's an
Speaker 4: opportunity that Peneth will be looking at. And then this
Speaker 4: one here, This came up last time they played from
Speaker 4: wide field positions, a threat of Zaio running the football,
Speaker 4: a little short pass, Howarth worried about Dylan Edwards. So
Speaker 4: I think you'll see a lot of action in and
Speaker 4: around the Storm centers once Penrith get down to their
Speaker 4: good baller.
Speaker 3: And a few weeks here we said Isaiah ah As
Speaker 3: opposed to coming around on a traditional sweep stilled on
Speaker 3: my square, which made him straight and exposed young Jack
Speaker 3: even more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the running threat of Isaiah up against months that
Speaker 4: then made months to become more aware and that's when
Speaker 4: the gap was crewed. So a couple of things there
Speaker 4: to keep your eye on in this contest.
Speaker 3: Cooper, we said before about Ivan and the press conference. Now,
Speaker 3: I have no doubt that they're going to go, particularly
Speaker 3: to Meani's side, because Meani and Will sometimes, like you
Speaker 3: just show, can get disconnected. Mooni has played most of
Speaker 3: his football Storm on the wing.
Speaker 1: Or at fullback, so it's a new experience for him there.
Speaker 3: But they can also just rush in blindly outside in
Speaker 3: It's almost like the principle of how Beliak wants to
Speaker 3: defend their neck tied to it sometimes as opposed to
Speaker 3: sitting and at times pulling out of that structure and
Speaker 3: just solving the problems.
Speaker 4: He's saying that Ivan said what he said after the game,
Speaker 4: not based on what necessarily happened in that game, but
Speaker 4: all leaning towards that don't interfere with they are.
Speaker 3: That that tells me because I was sitting watching Ivan
Speaker 3: press Cubs and he's going, I'm I'm really worried. I'm
Speaker 3: I'm having a lot of anxiety about that. I thought
Speaker 3: you're having anxiety about that live in my life.
Speaker 5: It is a terrible decision and that gives me a
Speaker 5: lot of anxiety around next week if that bunk of
Speaker 5: fish I think was that was wrong and it's been
Speaker 5: happening all year and that Yeah, they shouldn't have even scored.
Speaker 5: You know, we shouldn't have been down there like we
Speaker 5: Actually that was the one time we sort of sort
Speaker 5: of our stuff out.
Speaker 1: Round to play perfectly. Ran to his inside Childer.
Speaker 5: He actually Siffer, Actually he actually initiated contact.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that worries.
Speaker 5: Me about next week if that same bunk official, either
Speaker 5: he or someone else is going off the same script.
Speaker 1: I'm concerned. But I'm having a lot of anxiety.
Speaker 3: And I thought, well, the reason is that's where they're
Speaker 3: going to go in the Grand Final, and that's who
Speaker 3: they're going to right at the point, that's exactly the
Speaker 3: sequence they're going to play.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you. I'd rather have Ivan's head
Speaker 4: noise than your head noise. But there's no doubt that
Speaker 4: I agreed with Ivan. I thought this was a poor decision.
Speaker 4: That is Talakai taking a dive and a bump into
Speaker 4: a player.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 4: One of the things that this game has done wrong,
Speaker 4: in my opinion is taken the football ex football person
Speaker 4: out of the bunker to give some football knowledge to it.
Speaker 4: But you might be right having that as a known
Speaker 4: fact that they will be targeting the centers of the
Speaker 4: Melbourne store and having that given no try.
Speaker 2: I think that was a bad call.
Speaker 3: And Asley came out today Gray man Azlein said it
Speaker 3: was a try.
Speaker 1: Really interesting.
Speaker 4: You got, mate, you got in this game? Give me
Speaker 4: winner score? Well, Churchill put you on the spot.
Speaker 3: Now, look, this game could very easily because you've got
Speaker 3: two sides that are so close, two sides that are
Speaker 3: great at arm wrestle, and two creative players that are
Speaker 3: brilliant under pressure big game players. Everything to million points towards.
Speaker 3: It almost been a golden point type game. Just one
Speaker 3: or two points at the very end is going to
Speaker 3: split them. I look, I love the way the Melbourne
Speaker 3: Storm are playing. I think the Melbourne Storm look a
Speaker 3: little bit more fresh than the Penris side. However, right
Speaker 3: from the middle of the year, I've said that Penals
Speaker 3: will win the comp they'll go for in a row,
Speaker 3: so I'm going to stick with them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 4: I think it is going golden point Penish defense up
Speaker 4: against the running game of the Melbourne Storm spine. In
Speaker 4: big games normally defense overrules attack.
Speaker 2: But I'm hoping that the Melbourne Storm can get it done.
Speaker 4: Golden point twenty three to twenty two.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll go hmm, God, I'm indecisive today, didn't have breakfast.
Speaker 3: Love those fruit loops. I'll go twenty all into golden point.
Speaker 3: Nathan Cleary Key So twenty one twenty Clivee.
Speaker 1: Churchill Medal Old Dylan Edwards. You don't go broke back
Speaker 1: in the day.
Speaker 3: You didn't go break back in Bart Cummings of.
Speaker 1: The Melbourne Cup. You don't go broke back in Dylan Edwards.
Speaker 4: In big games, Yeah, I reckon Papous is the key
Speaker 4: for the Melbourne Storm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, trigger game tee. What taught me through Munster?
Speaker 3: Just quick the going into this game Like Munster in
Speaker 3: these really really big games.
Speaker 4: He's almost got like this mindset that someone like Nicko
Speaker 4: Hines needs to take a bit out of. Like he
Speaker 4: will walk into a cour stadium on Sunday night thinking
Speaker 4: that he's about to dominate. He's like Leeds there of
Speaker 4: a rockband that walks out on stage and just when
Speaker 4: the bright lights turned on and turns it on. Liam Gallia, Yeah, overthings.
Speaker 4: I think when he overthinks it and gets too creative
Speaker 4: and too game of chess, he loses thrust. But I
Speaker 4: think he'll be a mars Man. I think Martin isn't
Speaker 4: going to miss his assignment. Hughes super confident, but it
Speaker 4: could be a big week for Jerome with everything that's
Speaker 4: going on, So I think they're sort of worried about it,
Speaker 4: and that's when it opens up for someone like Harry
Speaker 4: Grant will be making a lot of tackles. I just
Speaker 4: feel like Papenhausen might be the point of difference.
Speaker 3: Remember a few years ago after when Melbourne the Grand
Speaker 3: Final and I asked Manster, I said to him, was
Speaker 3: on TV or radio. I said to him, so money,
Speaker 3: when when you call the ball and you're heading towards
Speaker 3: the line, what do you think about what you're looking for? Anyway,
Speaker 3: when I run to the line, he said, you gotta understand,
Speaker 3: I'm like that monkey who's got those two plate things
Speaker 3: all symbols.
Speaker 2: I think you said that.
Speaker 3: A couple of times since Jerome Hughes Delian medal.
Speaker 1: He deserves it. Cops, been a great year. Well not
Speaker 1: good on you, mate. Now we'll run to you.