WEBVTT - 🏉 NRL Analysis - It's Grand Final Time

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<v Speaker 1>Better than the Lego better than the Lego.

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<v Speaker 2>Coops. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>We've made its final podcast. I think final one.

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<v Speaker 1>Off the top. I want to talk about the Panthers.

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<v Speaker 3>Firstly, let's talk about last weekend before we get into.

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<v Speaker 1>The Grand Final.

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<v Speaker 3>Off the top, one of the best thought out sequence

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<v Speaker 3>plays that I've seen leading up to Penrith's first try

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<v Speaker 3>starts off to Nathan Cleary London.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit of pressure Penrith.

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<v Speaker 3>And forty twenty third tackle and you see when he

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<v Speaker 3>works down, he walks down and he turns around, he

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<v Speaker 3>can he'll start communicating what he wants from this next set,

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<v Speaker 3>right is what we're going to do now this I

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<v Speaker 3>just love the way they play this out. So they

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<v Speaker 3>take it up firstly, which will be Leota to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go on full control of the team right there.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're watching here.

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<v Speaker 3>They hit the far post area, a little play for

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<v Speaker 3>the player to start with, typically inside ball for jer Haaris.

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<v Speaker 3>Then they lay the far past. Now watch Nathan here.

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<v Speaker 3>This is crucial. He gets there and straight away he

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<v Speaker 3>presents himself early, so carnally go here we go here,

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<v Speaker 3>let's get up on him, up on him. No, we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to take one more and it just it's wrong

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<v Speaker 3>foot him. They're going to get back on the line

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<v Speaker 3>and the next play he's caught him on their heels.

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<v Speaker 4>He did the similar thing in the Grand Final, kicked

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<v Speaker 4>that forty twenty that ignited the comeback. He's picking on

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<v Speaker 4>lazy wingers to start with, So when Nathan clearly wants

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<v Speaker 4>to kick of forty twenty, he's up in the front

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<v Speaker 4>line as opposed to behind Oao and then directing that set.

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<v Speaker 4>I love the fact that Leo would carry with It's

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<v Speaker 4>like telling a lie with a sequence, absolutely and then

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<v Speaker 4>made them come up then go back. So there was

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<v Speaker 4>multiple times whether the edge defense of the Sharks thought

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<v Speaker 4>that Nathan was going to shift the time that they

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<v Speaker 4>didn't have the energy of the line speed to get up.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's picking on Nico Hines like he was under pressure.

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<v Speaker 4>Putting runners inside and outside just made him make a decision, and.

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<v Speaker 3>He exactly targeting there and actually also targeting Tellerchuies his

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<v Speaker 3>ability to have the gas and the tank to shut

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<v Speaker 3>outside in, to shut the space, and he was slow

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<v Speaker 3>to the part.

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<v Speaker 2>Play we'll come again this weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, we're going to talk about that in a second,

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<v Speaker 3>because yeah, I found it interesting after the game the

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<v Speaker 3>press conference with Ivan, I've got some thoughts about that. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 3>the other one is we talk about the inside balls

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<v Speaker 3>all the time, and a fellow said to me, why

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't penwith just take just take the ball up, get forward,

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<v Speaker 3>just w when Nathan handles the ball. When the ball

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<v Speaker 3>hits Nathan's hands, most times the defense sort of sit

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<v Speaker 3>on their heels and they freeze.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the defense sort of flexes open.

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit because they're so aware of his threat

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<v Speaker 3>not just to run, but to push the ball to

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<v Speaker 3>the edge. So a lot of times it's just always

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<v Speaker 3>an easy ten meters for the middles. It's just a

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<v Speaker 3>really simple basic thing. But again another thing that just

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<v Speaker 3>takes pressure off his forwards.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we'll talk about it in terms of what the

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<v Speaker 4>storm have to do, but they have to counter that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they have to get the line speed and shut that down.

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<v Speaker 4>When you're in a rhythm like Nathan, what you need

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<v Speaker 4>to do is throw him completely off. He needs to

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<v Speaker 4>have one Some of those runners not get avare his

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<v Speaker 4>line play the balls, so he feels like he has

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<v Speaker 4>to go back to a normal one off carry. Get

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<v Speaker 4>Mitch Kenny more involved, but it's the power of the

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<v Speaker 4>Penith system at play.

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<v Speaker 1>One more thing on Penrith.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to talk about this later, but watching the

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<v Speaker 3>Penwouth big guys, they've been playing a really hard style

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<v Speaker 3>of football for about five years, a lot of big games.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, they just starting to look a little tired, don't.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's certain things that I'm saying that they do.

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<v Speaker 3>But what's helping their cause is the amount of work

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<v Speaker 3>the outside backs to I mean, look at this is

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<v Speaker 3>a typical set. They kick down field, Dylan Edwards, well,

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<v Speaker 3>he does the initial run, gets forward, he plays the

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<v Speaker 3>football surprise surprise on play two, so he punches forward

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<v Speaker 3>that extra one or two movies through the leg drive

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<v Speaker 3>he got Taruva then coming from the other side of

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<v Speaker 3>the field to take the hit up. Now okay, first

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<v Speaker 3>time we've soon a forward isaaah, take the ball up

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<v Speaker 3>lightweight forward, then finish with Dylan Edwards again.

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<v Speaker 1>Then let's get it out of there.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just alleviating so much pressure off Fish and theoda.

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<v Speaker 2>It's conserving energy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been effective, and that's the Penith system again at

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<v Speaker 4>work and the outside backs.

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<v Speaker 2>Alamodi didn't have a carry.

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<v Speaker 4>He got that kick chase in so when one works,

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<v Speaker 4>the other one rests, conserves energy and they compliment each

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<v Speaker 4>other all over the field.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be a hell of a game.

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<v Speaker 4>And to be able to stop Penrith from winning Melbourne Storm,

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<v Speaker 4>we have to stop some of that.

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<v Speaker 3>On Melbourne Storm, we'll talk about Nelson and the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that he's likely to miss this or he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>fight it. As we're recording this, he hasn't gone to judiciary.

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<v Speaker 3>But the Storm the mental toughness to be leading at

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<v Speaker 3>halftime twenty four to six, and then the Roosters come

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<v Speaker 3>out a ten minute period and go try and try

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<v Speaker 3>where it goes twenty four to twenty six. I Regon

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four to eighteen. Sorry, I reckon most sides there

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<v Speaker 3>would start to tighten up a little bit. They feel

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<v Speaker 3>like we're on the slide of the moment and slung

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<v Speaker 3>the other way. They didn't miss a beat. They met

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<v Speaker 3>it with physicality and aggression and just bludgeoned over the

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<v Speaker 3>top of the Rooster.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that performance from Melbourne was an indication of

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<v Speaker 4>a team at the peak of there powers right now.

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<v Speaker 4>The week off after winning Week one, they were fresh.

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<v Speaker 4>They just played everything faster, like they play the ball speed,

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<v Speaker 4>their line speed, their skill and execution.

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<v Speaker 2>The try that hows.

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<v Speaker 4>Scored when Pabinow's and quick tap like that was just

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<v Speaker 4>moving faster than the opposition. I like the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>Storm a consistent team like Penrith. They don't give away

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<v Speaker 4>cheap possession to the oppositions. But the good players are

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<v Speaker 4>playing well jeez Like it's almost the perfect ingredients of

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<v Speaker 4>a premiership winning team. Same as the Penrith path. You

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<v Speaker 4>do the basics better than anyone else. I'm talking defendwell,

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<v Speaker 4>completion rate, good kicking, good discipline. There are four things

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<v Speaker 4>you must do.

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<v Speaker 2>In our game. They do it better than anyone else.

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<v Speaker 4>But then the rise to the top. Your best players

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<v Speaker 4>need to be the best player and both teams are

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<v Speaker 4>doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>Likes a fortune as far as injuries and freshness concerned,

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<v Speaker 3>Like we have strength and conditioners and all this, but

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of the day, sometimes it just lacks.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes fatigue just gets indy at the back end of

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<v Speaker 3>the year. Where with Melbourne this time all their creatives

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<v Speaker 3>are fresh. So Munster's been preserved because of the fact

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<v Speaker 3>he's had the injuries. He through the injuries, his peaked

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<v Speaker 3>form Jerome's in the form of his life. Pappenhausen is

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<v Speaker 3>finally fingers crossed through this horror period and is hitting

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<v Speaker 3>top four and Harry Grant last year at this point

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<v Speaker 3>Harry was he was wobbling, He looked just about going.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks tremendous.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is.

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<v Speaker 4>Where this game is one and lost in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>the storm Spine versus the best defense we've seen in

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<v Speaker 4>a long time. If Penrith defensively can stop the storm

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<v Speaker 4>Spine from running the ball yep, I think they win.

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<v Speaker 4>If storm Spying get up and going, I think they win.

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<v Speaker 4>That's where it sits for me, and I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Papenhausen, the footwork and acceleration of Munster and

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<v Speaker 4>Hughes on either side. If you can get Papenhausen one

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<v Speaker 4>on one speed like you did on the weekend to

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<v Speaker 4>the Rooster's edge defenders, he is team for me. Could

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<v Speaker 4>be the guy that just turns out one opportunity into

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<v Speaker 4>a line breaker a try.

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<v Speaker 3>When you watch Jerown, who will go gun barrel straight,

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<v Speaker 3>but then he'll hit pap and Hous on a sweep

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<v Speaker 3>and suddenly he's going like a rocket.

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<v Speaker 1>He just pulls that defensi apart.

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<v Speaker 3>If we look at the first two Melbourne tries a

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<v Speaker 3>perfect example. Luke here, like he's forcing experienced guys to

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<v Speaker 3>break the cardinal rules of defense, don't slide till the

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<v Speaker 3>ball goes pasture. But Luke is so urgent to try

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<v Speaker 3>to protect the three on two on the edge that

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<v Speaker 3>he slides. And it's similar to the next try again Luke.

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<v Speaker 3>You watch Luke squeeze in here. But what happens is

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden he's got to go on Paps

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<v Speaker 3>and he can't help it.

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<v Speaker 1>Overchase.

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<v Speaker 4>And if I'm Melbourne Storm, I'm telling Ryan Papenhausen to

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<v Speaker 4>stretch Nathan Cleary. When Nathan clearly has to stretch that

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<v Speaker 4>army in a tackle and reach for someone like Papenhausen,

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<v Speaker 4>that's when the shoulder might be in a really uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 4>position because he can deal with things closed defensively, but

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<v Speaker 4>when he's been stretched like that Jarring on the weekend,

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<v Speaker 4>he had to have both armed stretched. So the speed

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<v Speaker 4>of Papenhausen could be a huge indicator in this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper, just two things for it's over to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting start of the year interviewing Nathan Cleary, and he

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<v Speaker 3>spoke about the twenty twenty loss to the Melbourne Storm

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<v Speaker 3>and how that has made this playing squad been a

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<v Speaker 3>big part of this dynasty from Penrith. He said, we

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<v Speaker 3>went into that game and we look back now and

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<v Speaker 3>we realize we'll playing like boys. They're playing like men,

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<v Speaker 3>and they bullied us and we said never again.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's come full sir. Yeah, so this is they're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for payback.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's going to be a huge game.

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<v Speaker 4>In terms of breaking this down, I was going to

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<v Speaker 4>try and dive into a couple of things what the

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<v Speaker 4>Storm must do to win and what Penrith must do.

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<v Speaker 4>This is an odd one and I'd love your opinion

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<v Speaker 4>on this. In terms of the kickoff to the contest, right,

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<v Speaker 4>Nathan is the king of Penrith, and if you're going

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<v Speaker 4>to go into you need to go after the king directly.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, this is a weird one.

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<v Speaker 4>If I'm the Melbourne Store, Nathan is at the forty

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<v Speaker 4>meter line, just in off at the front line, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>actually going to kick it to Nathan and I want

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<v Speaker 4>him to take the first carry and I would make

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<v Speaker 4>a statement physically about picking up dragging him out throwing

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<v Speaker 4>him around, just make him he didn't land the ball

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<v Speaker 4>about thirty meters other thirty meters a little sandwich and

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<v Speaker 4>he has to get it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then just everyone take the handbreak off.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>So take that first contact out of his hand.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd almost give give away penalty if you if you

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<v Speaker 4>want to rough him up, if you want to like

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<v Speaker 4>stay at the top, lay down, whatever, don't give away

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<v Speaker 4>ten in the bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying going to break the.

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<v Speaker 4>Law, make a statement because he's the spirit of that

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<v Speaker 4>team and it's a strange one to do off the kickoff,

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<v Speaker 4>Like if I'm Melbourne, I'm choosing to kick off and

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<v Speaker 4>I'd be doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>The other one we spoke about.

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<v Speaker 4>Is Paris turning the ball back inside right so they

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<v Speaker 4>get a lot of momentum from that. They feel in

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<v Speaker 4>the rhythm of their play. And this is them doing

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<v Speaker 4>it on the weekend. See, our Sharks are just a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit disconnected on the inside when they lay off.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes they get it good, sometimes they miss the beat.

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<v Speaker 4>Step up forward, this one moving forward. I like that

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<v Speaker 4>from the Sharks. That's what the Storm have to do.

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<v Speaker 4>If they're passive like that one. It allows Nathan to

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<v Speaker 4>generate momentum and play the ball speed this one here,

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<v Speaker 4>move forward, take the handbrake off. So I think defensively

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<v Speaker 4>the middle forward line speed. Once they do those drop

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<v Speaker 4>off players, He's a key for the Melbourne stim Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally agree with the coops and I think they

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<v Speaker 3>Whilst I wouldn't go outside in aggressively, I think you

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<v Speaker 3>need to squeeze in slightly because with Nathan, I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>trying to think. I can't remember him going across an

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<v Speaker 3>inside ball and going dummy under and throwing the long pass.

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<v Speaker 3>Usually it's up hits it, undeath, or he's gonna dummy.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes dummy and shoot.

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<v Speaker 4>And is when we talk about line speed to always

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<v Speaker 4>talk about the edge of fence getting up in front

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<v Speaker 4>of the middle, and sometimes the middle filling behind in

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<v Speaker 4>case of a linebreak. What I'm saying is, don't worry

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<v Speaker 4>about filling the behind, go forward. Particularly when Nathan runs

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<v Speaker 4>across field. I almost would someone take the handbrake off

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<v Speaker 4>and fire out a line like it's almost like outside

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<v Speaker 4>in pressure but from the inside defense.

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<v Speaker 2>If that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>It does coop because you look and it's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about before is a lot. I thought that

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<v Speaker 3>Kronulla paid too much respect for Nathan's ball playing, like

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<v Speaker 3>when he was doing the inside balls, let's say before

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<v Speaker 3>he caught and they went yep to hold hold and

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<v Speaker 3>it's just easy meters where you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>You just got to get on the front foot and

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<v Speaker 1>the last one.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it works for the Storm.

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<v Speaker 4>Last time they played Perer, they scored two tries off kicks.

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<v Speaker 4>They must compete on every fifth play tackle. This is

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<v Speaker 4>the one kicking it straight. Here to deal with Edwards

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<v Speaker 4>whin warbricks, some tall timber gets through and they must

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<v Speaker 4>do this the Melbourne Storm if they had to win,

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<v Speaker 4>I think they score a couple of tries off kicks.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got to Edwards and Truber. Again, we always talk

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<v Speaker 4>about it. Not the tallest of outside backs. But here

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<v Speaker 4>bring to to the ballcha don't let him sit back

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<v Speaker 4>on that ten meter line. We always talk about kicking

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<v Speaker 4>the ball near the try line. Watch this foot leg speed,

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<v Speaker 4>footsteps need to make Edwards and top Iron Thruver walk

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<v Speaker 4>at those balls because as you showed before they catch,

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<v Speaker 4>they run, they get their rid of they do anything.

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<v Speaker 4>We always talk about trying to kick the ball as

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<v Speaker 4>close to the trail. One as possible, I'm going to say,

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<v Speaker 4>bring that ten to fifteen meters forward and make it

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<v Speaker 4>a context.

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<v Speaker 1>Pushing back down'tum at all. And Two what coops.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny how one thing you can do in the

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<v Speaker 3>game well triggers into other areas.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>That and you squash squashing their play one and you

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<v Speaker 3>squashing their play two, suddenly the Penrith middles got to

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<v Speaker 3>start working harder. Suddenly, then their middle start become more

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<v Speaker 3>vulnerable for when the Storm start peppering the right through

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 4>So three things I think Melbourne Storm sort of must

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<v Speaker 4>do to win Flip side.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the Panthers just once that you wrote something else

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<v Speaker 3>down that you want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>This really interests me.

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<v Speaker 3>You said the Penrith interchange when there's an opportunity there

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<v Speaker 3>when Leoder and Fisher Harris get replaced, a window where

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<v Speaker 3>Melbourne need to pick up the temper yep.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think Melbourne can't get caught behind off the faster.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they need to be equal with what Fisher,

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<v Speaker 4>Harris and Leota do twenty minutes either side of halftime.

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<v Speaker 4>When you see a chink in one of the best teams.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's their bench rotation. Melbourne Storm, Spine score points,

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<v Speaker 4>run the ball twenty minutes either halftime. I think when

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<v Speaker 4>Lindsey Smith, Liam Henry, whoever else they've got out there,

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<v Speaker 4>that's the time for the Melbourne Storm to sort of

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<v Speaker 4>go up again.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's interesting on the weekend, the moment Jared went off,

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<v Speaker 3>there was a big change in the contest, Like Melbourne

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<v Speaker 3>started winning the yardage battle and the Swine players started

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<v Speaker 3>drawing through the middle.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that's the period of time did they dominate.

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<v Speaker 4>For Panthers, I think they've got to start when their

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<v Speaker 4>big boppers are on. But they've got this presence with

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<v Speaker 4>already winning three in a row. This is the last

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<v Speaker 4>ride and they did it to the Rouses in Week

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<v Speaker 4>one of the finals. Just that pure power game. As

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<v Speaker 4>we film this, we don't know about Nelson. If Nelson's

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<v Speaker 4>not playing, this one hundred percent has to happen. Just

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<v Speaker 4>Leoda Fish Harris just bang down that front door and

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<v Speaker 4>put the Melbourne Storm on the back foot.

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<v Speaker 3>It's finally keeps a lot with the Panthers the back

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<v Speaker 3>third of the season. And we've spoken about this a

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<v Speaker 3>few times is that they'd start that they were almost

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<v Speaker 3>too happy to get into the arm wrestle and they started.

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<v Speaker 3>They pride themselves on the kings of the arm wrestle

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<v Speaker 3>on the grind, but they did too much of it

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<v Speaker 3>in this game. What I liked about this game is

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<v Speaker 3>they started fast and they gave themselves an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 3>blow the roosters away.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so let's say redline about eight or ten, just

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<v Speaker 4>trying to conserve energy for the long game. They just

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<v Speaker 4>dialed it up to nine and a half and blew

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<v Speaker 4>the Russ away. I think that's what they need to

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<v Speaker 4>do for the Melbourne Storm.

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<v Speaker 3>So that like a couple of years ago, Melbourne beat

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<v Speaker 3>Penrith in Penrith and Penrith are on a big home run.

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<v Speaker 3>Melbourne the first side for a long time to move

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<v Speaker 3>them at home. I know for a fact going to

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<v Speaker 3>that game. Melbourne's thing where we want to get to

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<v Speaker 3>an arm wrestle with them because then we can do

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<v Speaker 3>a Penrith on Penry.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they're one of the few teams that can

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<v Speaker 4>do it. Like normally are we consider kicking into touch

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<v Speaker 4>and of that to stop the back three. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think Melbourne Storm can roll with Penrith in the long game.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they've got the same fitness levels, the same

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<v Speaker 4>endurance levels, the same game style that holds up for

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<v Speaker 4>long periods. I think it's a big thing here because

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<v Speaker 4>if they go ten, twelve to fifteen minutes of football

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<v Speaker 4>in action, the first team that cracks, that's a mini

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<v Speaker 4>win for the opposition.

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<v Speaker 3>How are they going to contain the creative team of

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<v Speaker 3>Melbourne as a spine.

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<v Speaker 2>So as I said, I think this is where it's

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<v Speaker 2>won or lost in this game.

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<v Speaker 4>It put a hell of a lot of pressure on

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<v Speaker 4>the edgeback rolls in Garner and Martin. Martin will be

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<v Speaker 4>up against Munster, Garner up against Hughes. If they have

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<v Speaker 4>their best defensive performance in five years and shut down

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<v Speaker 4>the running game of the spine of a Melbourne Storm,

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<v Speaker 4>I think they win. Martin is an amazing back row.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he can cover Munster. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>Garner can stop Hughes, but that's where it sits for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Those two halves can't get up and go, and if

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<v Speaker 4>they've got a line break in them early in contest,

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<v Speaker 4>like they're running game in the finals has been a lead,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that is a good sign that Melbourne are

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<v Speaker 4>getting on top. If they don't, it's a good sign

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<v Speaker 4>that Peneth are getting job.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny. It's not funny what I was saying. That's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely is it funny?

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<v Speaker 3>Hilarious the Melbourne Storm, there's no doubt the biggest threat

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<v Speaker 3>for them is going through the middle. I mean they

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<v Speaker 3>can push the ball at the edge, they're very good

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<v Speaker 3>pushing the ball at the edge, but the primary threat

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<v Speaker 3>is through the middle. So coops, if you're Melbourne, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're Penrith, do you just do you tighten a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, And I think you've got to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>play different styles in this game because I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>it's going to be a brutal game, but there's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be a game of chest in the same part.

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<v Speaker 4>And for scoring points for Penrith, I think they attack

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<v Speaker 4>Melbourne's centers. Yeah, Jamini on the right, this is exactly

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<v Speaker 4>the play that we spoke about early. This will be

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<v Speaker 4>Nick Mennie on the right side. I think that play

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<v Speaker 4>is coming. And on the other side you've got Jack

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<v Speaker 4>Howerth so assimilarate this play that was weak one of

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<v Speaker 4>the finals. See how Jack Herth gets caught in no

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<v Speaker 4>man's land. I think that is absolutely a target for

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<v Speaker 4>clearing his crew here again me no eyes for Swaliti

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<v Speaker 4>out the back, good pass there, I think that's an

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<v Speaker 4>opportunity that Peneth will be looking at. And then this

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<v Speaker 4>one here, This came up last time they played from

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<v Speaker 4>wide field positions, a threat of Zaio running the football,

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<v Speaker 4>a little short pass, Howarth worried about Dylan Edwards. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think you'll see a lot of action in and

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<v Speaker 4>around the Storm centers once Penrith get down to their

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<v Speaker 4>good baller.

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<v Speaker 3>And a few weeks here we said Isaiah ah As

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<v Speaker 3>opposed to coming around on a traditional sweep stilled on

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<v Speaker 3>my square, which made him straight and exposed young Jack

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<v Speaker 3>even more.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the running threat of Isaiah up against months that

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<v Speaker 4>then made months to become more aware and that's when

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<v Speaker 4>the gap was crewed. So a couple of things there

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<v Speaker 4>to keep your eye on in this contest.

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<v Speaker 3>Cooper, we said before about Ivan and the press conference. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I have no doubt that they're going to go, particularly

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<v Speaker 3>to Meani's side, because Meani and Will sometimes, like you

0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.720
<v Speaker 3>just show, can get disconnected. Mooni has played most of

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<v Speaker 3>his football Storm on the wing.

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<v Speaker 1>Or at fullback, so it's a new experience for him there.

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<v Speaker 3>But they can also just rush in blindly outside in

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost like the principle of how Beliak wants to

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<v Speaker 3>defend their neck tied to it sometimes as opposed to

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<v Speaker 3>sitting and at times pulling out of that structure and

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<v Speaker 3>just solving the problems.

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<v Speaker 4>He's saying that Ivan said what he said after the game,

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<v Speaker 4>not based on what necessarily happened in that game, but

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<v Speaker 4>all leaning towards that don't interfere with they are.

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<v Speaker 3>That that tells me because I was sitting watching Ivan

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<v Speaker 3>press Cubs and he's going, I'm I'm really worried. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>I'm having a lot of anxiety about that. I thought

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<v Speaker 3>you're having anxiety about that live in my life.

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<v Speaker 5>It is a terrible decision and that gives me a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of anxiety around next week if that bunk of

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<v Speaker 5>fish I think was that was wrong and it's been

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<v Speaker 5>happening all year and that Yeah, they shouldn't have even scored.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we shouldn't have been down there like we

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<v Speaker 5>Actually that was the one time we sort of sort

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<v Speaker 5>of our stuff out.

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<v Speaker 1>Round to play perfectly. Ran to his inside Childer.

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<v Speaker 5>He actually Siffer, Actually he actually initiated contact.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that worries.

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<v Speaker 5>Me about next week if that same bunk official, either

0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.679
<v Speaker 5>he or someone else is going off the same script.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm concerned. But I'm having a lot of anxiety.

0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:25.320
<v Speaker 3>And I thought, well, the reason is that's where they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to go in the Grand Final, and that's who

0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.520
<v Speaker 3>they're going to right at the point, that's exactly the

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<v Speaker 3>sequence they're going to play.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I agree with you. I'd rather have Ivan's head

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<v Speaker 4>noise than your head noise. But there's no doubt that

0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:39.520
<v Speaker 4>I agreed with Ivan. I thought this was a poor decision.

0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:43.160
<v Speaker 4>That is Talakai taking a dive and a bump into

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<v Speaker 4>a player.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the things that this game has done wrong,

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<v Speaker 4>in my opinion is taken the football ex football person

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<v Speaker 4>out of the bunker to give some football knowledge to it.

0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:57.359
<v Speaker 4>But you might be right having that as a known

0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.399
<v Speaker 4>fact that they will be targeting the centers of the

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<v Speaker 4>Melbourne store and having that given no try.

0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:03.520
<v Speaker 2>I think that was a bad call.

0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:06.040
<v Speaker 3>And Asley came out today Gray man Azlein said it

0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:07.120
<v Speaker 3>was a try.

0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Really interesting.

0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:11.560
<v Speaker 4>You got, mate, you got in this game? Give me

0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:16.160
<v Speaker 4>winner score? Well, Churchill put you on the spot.

0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:21.760
<v Speaker 3>Now, look, this game could very easily because you've got

0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:24.199
<v Speaker 3>two sides that are so close, two sides that are

0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:28.680
<v Speaker 3>great at arm wrestle, and two creative players that are

0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:33.080
<v Speaker 3>brilliant under pressure big game players. Everything to million points towards.

0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:35.639
<v Speaker 3>It almost been a golden point type game. Just one

0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:37.359
<v Speaker 3>or two points at the very end is going to

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<v Speaker 3>split them. I look, I love the way the Melbourne

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<v Speaker 3>Storm are playing. I think the Melbourne Storm look a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more fresh than the Penris side. However, right

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<v Speaker 3>from the middle of the year, I've said that Penals

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<v Speaker 3>will win the comp they'll go for in a row,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm going to stick with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it is going golden point Penish defense up

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<v Speaker 4>against the running game of the Melbourne Storm spine. In

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<v Speaker 4>big games normally defense overrules attack.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm hoping that the Melbourne Storm can get it done.

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<v Speaker 4>Golden point twenty three to twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'll go hmm, God, I'm indecisive today, didn't have breakfast.

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<v Speaker 3>Love those fruit loops. I'll go twenty all into golden point.

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<v Speaker 3>Nathan Cleary Key So twenty one twenty Clivee.

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<v Speaker 1>Churchill Medal Old Dylan Edwards. You don't go broke back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't go break back in Bart Cummings of.

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<v Speaker 1>The Melbourne Cup. You don't go broke back in Dylan Edwards.

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<v Speaker 4>In big games, Yeah, I reckon Papous is the key

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<v Speaker 4>for the Melbourne Storm.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, trigger game tee. What taught me through Munster?

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<v Speaker 3>Just quick the going into this game Like Munster in

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<v Speaker 3>these really really big games.

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<v Speaker 4>He's almost got like this mindset that someone like Nicko

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<v Speaker 4>Hines needs to take a bit out of. Like he

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<v Speaker 4>will walk into a cour stadium on Sunday night thinking

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<v Speaker 4>that he's about to dominate. He's like Leeds there of

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<v Speaker 4>a rockband that walks out on stage and just when

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<v Speaker 4>the bright lights turned on and turns it on. Liam Gallia, Yeah, overthings.

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<v Speaker 4>I think when he overthinks it and gets too creative

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<v Speaker 4>and too game of chess, he loses thrust. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think he'll be a mars Man. I think Martin isn't

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<v Speaker 4>going to miss his assignment. Hughes super confident, but it

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<v Speaker 4>could be a big week for Jerome with everything that's

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<v Speaker 4>going on, So I think they're sort of worried about it,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's when it opens up for someone like Harry

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<v Speaker 4>Grant will be making a lot of tackles. I just

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<v Speaker 4>feel like Papenhausen might be the point of difference.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember a few years ago after when Melbourne the Grand

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<v Speaker 3>Final and I asked Manster, I said to him, was

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<v Speaker 3>on TV or radio. I said to him, so money,

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<v Speaker 3>when when you call the ball and you're heading towards

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<v Speaker 3>the line, what do you think about what you're looking for? Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>when I run to the line, he said, you gotta understand,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like that monkey who's got those two plate things

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<v Speaker 3>all symbols.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you said that.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of times since Jerome Hughes Delian medal.

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<v Speaker 1>He deserves it. Cops, been a great year. Well not

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<v Speaker 1>good on you, mate. Now we'll run to you.