1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Better than the Lego better than the Lego. 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 2: Coops. Here we go. 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 3: We've made its final podcast. I think final one. 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: Off the top. I want to talk about the Panthers. 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 3: Firstly, let's talk about last weekend before we get into. 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: The Grand Final. 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: Off the top, one of the best thought out sequence 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 3: plays that I've seen leading up to Penrith's first try 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: starts off to Nathan Cleary London. 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: A little bit of pressure Penrith. 11 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: And forty twenty third tackle and you see when he 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: works down, he walks down and he turns around, he 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: can he'll start communicating what he wants from this next set, 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 3: right is what we're going to do now this I 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 3: just love the way they play this out. So they 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 3: take it up firstly, which will be Leota to. 17 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: Go on full control of the team right there. 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: And you're watching here. 19 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: They hit the far post area, a little play for 20 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: the player to start with, typically inside ball for jer Haaris. 21 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: Then they lay the far past. Now watch Nathan here. 22 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: This is crucial. He gets there and straight away he 23 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: presents himself early, so carnally go here we go here, 24 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 3: let's get up on him, up on him. No, we're 25 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 3: going to take one more and it just it's wrong 26 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 3: foot him. They're going to get back on the line 27 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 3: and the next play he's caught him on their heels. 28 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 4: He did the similar thing in the Grand Final, kicked 29 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 4: that forty twenty that ignited the comeback. He's picking on 30 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 4: lazy wingers to start with, So when Nathan clearly wants 31 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 4: to kick of forty twenty, he's up in the front 32 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 4: line as opposed to behind Oao and then directing that set. 33 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 4: I love the fact that Leo would carry with It's 34 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 4: like telling a lie with a sequence, absolutely and then 35 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 4: made them come up then go back. So there was 36 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 4: multiple times whether the edge defense of the Sharks thought 37 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 4: that Nathan was going to shift the time that they 38 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 4: didn't have the energy of the line speed to get up. 39 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 4: And it's picking on Nico Hines like he was under pressure. 40 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 4: Putting runners inside and outside just made him make a decision, and. 41 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: He exactly targeting there and actually also targeting Tellerchuies his 42 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: ability to have the gas and the tank to shut 43 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: outside in, to shut the space, and he was slow 44 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: to the part. 45 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: Play we'll come again this weekend. 46 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely, we're going to talk about that in a second, 47 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 3: because yeah, I found it interesting after the game the 48 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: press conference with Ivan, I've got some thoughts about that. Firstly, 49 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: the other one is we talk about the inside balls 50 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 3: all the time, and a fellow said to me, why 51 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: doesn't penwith just take just take the ball up, get forward, 52 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: just w when Nathan handles the ball. When the ball 53 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: hits Nathan's hands, most times the defense sort of sit 54 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 3: on their heels and they freeze. 55 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: In fact, the defense sort of flexes open. 56 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 3: A little bit because they're so aware of his threat 57 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: not just to run, but to push the ball to 58 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: the edge. So a lot of times it's just always 59 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 3: an easy ten meters for the middles. It's just a 60 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: really simple basic thing. But again another thing that just 61 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: takes pressure off his forwards. 62 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll talk about it in terms of what the 63 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 4: storm have to do, but they have to counter that. Yeah, 64 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 4: they have to get the line speed and shut that down. 65 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 4: When you're in a rhythm like Nathan, what you need 66 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 4: to do is throw him completely off. He needs to 67 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 4: have one Some of those runners not get avare his 68 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 4: line play the balls, so he feels like he has 69 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 4: to go back to a normal one off carry. Get 70 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 4: Mitch Kenny more involved, but it's the power of the 71 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 4: Penith system at play. 72 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: One more thing on Penrith. 73 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: We're going to talk about this later, but watching the 74 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 3: Penwouth big guys, they've been playing a really hard style 75 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: of football for about five years, a lot of big games. 76 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 3: To me, they just starting to look a little tired, don't. 77 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 3: But there's certain things that I'm saying that they do. 78 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: But what's helping their cause is the amount of work 79 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 3: the outside backs to I mean, look at this is 80 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: a typical set. They kick down field, Dylan Edwards, well, 81 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: he does the initial run, gets forward, he plays the 82 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: football surprise surprise on play two, so he punches forward 83 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: that extra one or two movies through the leg drive 84 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: he got Taruva then coming from the other side of 85 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: the field to take the hit up. Now okay, first 86 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: time we've soon a forward isaaah, take the ball up 87 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: lightweight forward, then finish with Dylan Edwards again. 88 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: Then let's get it out of there. 89 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: That's just alleviating so much pressure off Fish and theoda. 90 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: It's conserving energy. 91 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 4: It's been effective, and that's the Penith system again at 92 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 4: work and the outside backs. 93 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: Alamodi didn't have a carry. 94 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 4: He got that kick chase in so when one works, 95 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 4: the other one rests, conserves energy and they compliment each 96 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 4: other all over the field. 97 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: It's going to be a hell of a game. 98 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 4: And to be able to stop Penrith from winning Melbourne Storm, 99 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 4: we have to stop some of that. 100 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 3: On Melbourne Storm, we'll talk about Nelson and the fact 101 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: that he's likely to miss this or he's going to 102 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: fight it. As we're recording this, he hasn't gone to judiciary. 103 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: But the Storm the mental toughness to be leading at 104 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 3: halftime twenty four to six, and then the Roosters come 105 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 3: out a ten minute period and go try and try 106 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: where it goes twenty four to twenty six. I Regon 107 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: twenty four to eighteen. Sorry, I reckon most sides there 108 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: would start to tighten up a little bit. They feel 109 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: like we're on the slide of the moment and slung 110 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: the other way. They didn't miss a beat. They met 111 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: it with physicality and aggression and just bludgeoned over the 112 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 3: top of the Rooster. 113 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 4: I thought that performance from Melbourne was an indication of 114 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 4: a team at the peak of there powers right now. 115 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 4: The week off after winning Week one, they were fresh. 116 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 4: They just played everything faster, like they play the ball speed, 117 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 4: their line speed, their skill and execution. 118 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: The try that hows. 119 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 4: Scored when Pabinow's and quick tap like that was just 120 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: moving faster than the opposition. I like the fact that 121 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 4: Storm a consistent team like Penrith. They don't give away 122 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 4: cheap possession to the oppositions. But the good players are 123 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 4: playing well jeez Like it's almost the perfect ingredients of 124 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 4: a premiership winning team. Same as the Penrith path. You 125 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 4: do the basics better than anyone else. I'm talking defendwell, 126 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 4: completion rate, good kicking, good discipline. There are four things 127 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 4: you must do. 128 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: In our game. They do it better than anyone else. 129 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 4: But then the rise to the top. Your best players 130 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 4: need to be the best player and both teams are 131 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 4: doing that. 132 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: Likes a fortune as far as injuries and freshness concerned, 133 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 3: Like we have strength and conditioners and all this, but 134 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, sometimes it just lacks. 135 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: Sometimes fatigue just gets indy at the back end of 136 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 3: the year. Where with Melbourne this time all their creatives 137 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: are fresh. So Munster's been preserved because of the fact 138 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 3: he's had the injuries. He through the injuries, his peaked 139 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 3: form Jerome's in the form of his life. Pappenhausen is 140 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: finally fingers crossed through this horror period and is hitting 141 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,679 Speaker 3: top four and Harry Grant last year at this point 142 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: Harry was he was wobbling, He looked just about going. 143 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: He looks tremendous. 144 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: I think this is. 145 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 4: Where this game is one and lost in terms of 146 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 4: the storm Spine versus the best defense we've seen in 147 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 4: a long time. If Penrith defensively can stop the storm 148 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 4: Spine from running the ball yep, I think they win. 149 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 4: If storm Spying get up and going, I think they win. 150 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 4: That's where it sits for me, and I'm with you. 151 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 4: I think Papenhausen, the footwork and acceleration of Munster and 152 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 4: Hughes on either side. If you can get Papenhausen one 153 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 4: on one speed like you did on the weekend to 154 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 4: the Rooster's edge defenders, he is team for me. Could 155 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 4: be the guy that just turns out one opportunity into 156 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: a line breaker a try. 157 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 3: When you watch Jerown, who will go gun barrel straight, 158 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: but then he'll hit pap and Hous on a sweep 159 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: and suddenly he's going like a rocket. 160 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: He just pulls that defensi apart. 161 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: If we look at the first two Melbourne tries a 162 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 3: perfect example. Luke here, like he's forcing experienced guys to 163 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: break the cardinal rules of defense, don't slide till the 164 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: ball goes pasture. But Luke is so urgent to try 165 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: to protect the three on two on the edge that 166 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: he slides. And it's similar to the next try again Luke. 167 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: You watch Luke squeeze in here. But what happens is 168 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 3: all of a sudden he's got to go on Paps 169 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: and he can't help it. 170 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: Overchase. 171 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 4: And if I'm Melbourne Storm, I'm telling Ryan Papenhausen to 172 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 4: stretch Nathan Cleary. When Nathan clearly has to stretch that 173 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: army in a tackle and reach for someone like Papenhausen, 174 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 4: that's when the shoulder might be in a really uncomfortable 175 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: position because he can deal with things closed defensively, but 176 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 4: when he's been stretched like that Jarring on the weekend, 177 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 4: he had to have both armed stretched. So the speed 178 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 4: of Papenhausen could be a huge indicator in this game. 179 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: Cooper, just two things for it's over to you. 180 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: Interesting start of the year interviewing Nathan Cleary, and he 181 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: spoke about the twenty twenty loss to the Melbourne Storm 182 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: and how that has made this playing squad been a 183 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: big part of this dynasty from Penrith. He said, we 184 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: went into that game and we look back now and 185 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: we realize we'll playing like boys. They're playing like men, 186 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: and they bullied us and we said never again. 187 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: Well it's come full sir. Yeah, so this is they're 188 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: looking for payback. 189 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's going to be a huge game. 190 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 4: In terms of breaking this down, I was going to 191 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: try and dive into a couple of things what the 192 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 4: Storm must do to win and what Penrith must do. 193 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 4: This is an odd one and I'd love your opinion 194 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 4: on this. In terms of the kickoff to the contest, right, 195 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 4: Nathan is the king of Penrith, and if you're going 196 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: to go into you need to go after the king directly. 197 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: Now, this is a weird one. 198 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 4: If I'm the Melbourne Store, Nathan is at the forty 199 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 4: meter line, just in off at the front line, I'm 200 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 4: actually going to kick it to Nathan and I want 201 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 4: him to take the first carry and I would make 202 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 4: a statement physically about picking up dragging him out throwing 203 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 4: him around, just make him he didn't land the ball 204 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 4: about thirty meters other thirty meters a little sandwich and 205 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 4: he has to get it. 206 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 2: And then just everyone take the handbreak off. 207 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: It's interesting. 208 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: So take that first contact out of his hand. 209 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 4: I'd almost give give away penalty if you if you 210 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 4: want to rough him up, if you want to like 211 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: stay at the top, lay down, whatever, don't give away 212 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 4: ten in the bit. 213 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: I'm not saying going to break the. 214 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 4: Law, make a statement because he's the spirit of that 215 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 4: team and it's a strange one to do off the kickoff, 216 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 4: Like if I'm Melbourne, I'm choosing to kick off and 217 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 4: I'd be doing that. 218 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: The other one we spoke about. 219 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 4: Is Paris turning the ball back inside right so they 220 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 4: get a lot of momentum from that. They feel in 221 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 4: the rhythm of their play. And this is them doing 222 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 4: it on the weekend. See, our Sharks are just a 223 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 4: little bit disconnected on the inside when they lay off. 224 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 4: Sometimes they get it good, sometimes they miss the beat. 225 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 4: Step up forward, this one moving forward. I like that 226 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: from the Sharks. That's what the Storm have to do. 227 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 4: If they're passive like that one. It allows Nathan to 228 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 4: generate momentum and play the ball speed this one here, 229 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 4: move forward, take the handbrake off. So I think defensively 230 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 4: the middle forward line speed. Once they do those drop 231 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 4: off players, He's a key for the Melbourne stim Yeah. 232 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 3: I totally agree with the coops and I think they 233 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: Whilst I wouldn't go outside in aggressively, I think you 234 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 3: need to squeeze in slightly because with Nathan, I'm just 235 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 3: trying to think. I can't remember him going across an 236 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: inside ball and going dummy under and throwing the long pass. 237 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 3: Usually it's up hits it, undeath, or he's gonna dummy. 238 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: He goes dummy and shoot. 239 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 4: And is when we talk about line speed to always 240 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 4: talk about the edge of fence getting up in front 241 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 4: of the middle, and sometimes the middle filling behind in 242 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 4: case of a linebreak. What I'm saying is, don't worry 243 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 4: about filling the behind, go forward. Particularly when Nathan runs 244 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 4: across field. I almost would someone take the handbrake off 245 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 4: and fire out a line like it's almost like outside 246 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 4: in pressure but from the inside defense. 247 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: If that makes sense. 248 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 3: It does coop because you look and it's a lot 249 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 3: we're talking about before is a lot. I thought that 250 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: Kronulla paid too much respect for Nathan's ball playing, like 251 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: when he was doing the inside balls, let's say before 252 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: he caught and they went yep to hold hold and 253 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 3: it's just easy meters where you're right. 254 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: You just got to get on the front foot and 255 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: the last one. 256 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 2: And I think it works for the Storm. 257 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 4: Last time they played Perer, they scored two tries off kicks. 258 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 4: They must compete on every fifth play tackle. This is 259 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 4: the one kicking it straight. Here to deal with Edwards 260 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 4: whin warbricks, some tall timber gets through and they must 261 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 4: do this the Melbourne Storm if they had to win, 262 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 4: I think they score a couple of tries off kicks. 263 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 4: You've got to Edwards and Truber. Again, we always talk 264 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 4: about it. Not the tallest of outside backs. But here 265 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 4: bring to to the ballcha don't let him sit back 266 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 4: on that ten meter line. We always talk about kicking 267 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 4: the ball near the try line. Watch this foot leg speed, 268 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 4: footsteps need to make Edwards and top Iron Thruver walk 269 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 4: at those balls because as you showed before they catch, 270 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 4: they run, they get their rid of they do anything. 271 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 4: We always talk about trying to kick the ball as 272 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 4: close to the trail. One as possible, I'm going to say, 273 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 4: bring that ten to fifteen meters forward and make it 274 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 4: a context. 275 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: Pushing back down'tum at all. And Two what coops. 276 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 3: It's funny how one thing you can do in the 277 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 3: game well triggers into other areas. 278 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: So if you're doing. 279 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: That and you squash squashing their play one and you 280 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: squashing their play two, suddenly the Penrith middles got to 281 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: start working harder. Suddenly, then their middle start become more 282 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 3: vulnerable for when the Storm start peppering the right through 283 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: the middle of the field. 284 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 4: So three things I think Melbourne Storm sort of must 285 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 4: do to win Flip side. 286 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: Well, the Panthers just once that you wrote something else 287 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: down that you want to talk about. 288 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: This really interests me. 289 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 3: You said the Penrith interchange when there's an opportunity there 290 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 3: when Leoder and Fisher Harris get replaced, a window where 291 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: Melbourne need to pick up the temper yep. 292 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 4: So I think Melbourne can't get caught behind off the faster. 293 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 4: I think they need to be equal with what Fisher, 294 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 4: Harris and Leota do twenty minutes either side of halftime. 295 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 4: When you see a chink in one of the best teams. 296 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 4: I think it's their bench rotation. Melbourne Storm, Spine score points, 297 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 4: run the ball twenty minutes either halftime. I think when 298 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 4: Lindsey Smith, Liam Henry, whoever else they've got out there, 299 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 4: that's the time for the Melbourne Storm to sort of 300 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 4: go up again. 301 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 3: And it's interesting on the weekend, the moment Jared went off, 302 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 3: there was a big change in the contest, Like Melbourne 303 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 3: started winning the yardage battle and the Swine players started 304 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: drawing through the middle. 305 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 4: So I think that's the period of time did they dominate. 306 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 4: For Panthers, I think they've got to start when their 307 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 4: big boppers are on. But they've got this presence with 308 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 4: already winning three in a row. This is the last 309 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 4: ride and they did it to the Rouses in Week 310 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 4: one of the finals. Just that pure power game. As 311 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 4: we film this, we don't know about Nelson. If Nelson's 312 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 4: not playing, this one hundred percent has to happen. Just 313 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: Leoda Fish Harris just bang down that front door and 314 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 4: put the Melbourne Storm on the back foot. 315 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 3: It's finally keeps a lot with the Panthers the back 316 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 3: third of the season. And we've spoken about this a 317 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 3: few times is that they'd start that they were almost 318 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: too happy to get into the arm wrestle and they started. 319 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: They pride themselves on the kings of the arm wrestle 320 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 3: on the grind, but they did too much of it 321 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: in this game. What I liked about this game is 322 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: they started fast and they gave themselves an opportunity to 323 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: blow the roosters away. 324 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's say redline about eight or ten, just 325 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 4: trying to conserve energy for the long game. They just 326 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 4: dialed it up to nine and a half and blew 327 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 4: the Russ away. I think that's what they need to 328 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 4: do for the Melbourne Storm. 329 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: So that like a couple of years ago, Melbourne beat 330 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: Penrith in Penrith and Penrith are on a big home run. 331 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: Melbourne the first side for a long time to move 332 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: them at home. I know for a fact going to 333 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 3: that game. Melbourne's thing where we want to get to 334 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: an arm wrestle with them because then we can do 335 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: a Penrith on Penry. 336 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 4: I think they're one of the few teams that can 337 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: do it. Like normally are we consider kicking into touch 338 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 4: and of that to stop the back three. But I 339 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 4: think Melbourne Storm can roll with Penrith in the long game. 340 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 4: I think they've got the same fitness levels, the same 341 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 4: endurance levels, the same game style that holds up for 342 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 4: long periods. I think it's a big thing here because 343 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 4: if they go ten, twelve to fifteen minutes of football 344 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 4: in action, the first team that cracks, that's a mini 345 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 4: win for the opposition. 346 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: How are they going to contain the creative team of 347 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 3: Melbourne as a spine. 348 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: So as I said, I think this is where it's 349 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: won or lost in this game. 350 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 4: It put a hell of a lot of pressure on 351 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 4: the edgeback rolls in Garner and Martin. Martin will be 352 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 4: up against Munster, Garner up against Hughes. If they have 353 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 4: their best defensive performance in five years and shut down 354 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 4: the running game of the spine of a Melbourne Storm, 355 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 4: I think they win. Martin is an amazing back row. 356 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 4: I think he can cover Munster. I don't know if 357 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 4: Garner can stop Hughes, but that's where it sits for me. 358 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 4: Those two halves can't get up and go, and if 359 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 4: they've got a line break in them early in contest, 360 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 4: like they're running game in the finals has been a lead, 361 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 4: I think that is a good sign that Melbourne are 362 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: getting on top. If they don't, it's a good sign 363 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 4: that Peneth are getting job. 364 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: It's funny. It's not funny what I was saying. That's funny. 365 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely is it funny? 366 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 3: Hilarious the Melbourne Storm, there's no doubt the biggest threat 367 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: for them is going through the middle. I mean they 368 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 3: can push the ball at the edge, they're very good 369 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: pushing the ball at the edge, but the primary threat 370 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: is through the middle. So coops, if you're Melbourne, excuse me, 371 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: if you're Penrith, do you just do you tighten a 372 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: little bit more? 373 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 374 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 4: Yes, And I think you've got to be able to 375 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 4: play different styles in this game because I feel like 376 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 4: it's going to be a brutal game, but there's going 377 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 4: to be a game of chest in the same part. 378 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 4: And for scoring points for Penrith, I think they attack 379 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 4: Melbourne's centers. Yeah, Jamini on the right, this is exactly 380 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 4: the play that we spoke about early. This will be 381 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 4: Nick Mennie on the right side. I think that play 382 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 4: is coming. And on the other side you've got Jack 383 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 4: Howerth so assimilarate this play that was weak one of 384 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 4: the finals. See how Jack Herth gets caught in no 385 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 4: man's land. I think that is absolutely a target for 386 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 4: clearing his crew here again me no eyes for Swaliti 387 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 4: out the back, good pass there, I think that's an 388 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 4: opportunity that Peneth will be looking at. And then this 389 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 4: one here, This came up last time they played from 390 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 4: wide field positions, a threat of Zaio running the football, 391 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 4: a little short pass, Howarth worried about Dylan Edwards. So 392 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 4: I think you'll see a lot of action in and 393 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,959 Speaker 4: around the Storm centers once Penrith get down to their 394 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 4: good baller. 395 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: And a few weeks here we said Isaiah ah As 396 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 3: opposed to coming around on a traditional sweep stilled on 397 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: my square, which made him straight and exposed young Jack 398 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 3: even more. 399 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, the running threat of Isaiah up against months that 400 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 4: then made months to become more aware and that's when 401 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 4: the gap was crewed. So a couple of things there 402 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 4: to keep your eye on in this contest. 403 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 3: Cooper, we said before about Ivan and the press conference. Now, 404 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 3: I have no doubt that they're going to go, particularly 405 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: to Meani's side, because Meani and Will sometimes, like you 406 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 3: just show, can get disconnected. Mooni has played most of 407 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 3: his football Storm on the wing. 408 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: Or at fullback, so it's a new experience for him there. 409 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 3: But they can also just rush in blindly outside in 410 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: It's almost like the principle of how Beliak wants to 411 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 3: defend their neck tied to it sometimes as opposed to 412 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 3: sitting and at times pulling out of that structure and 413 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: just solving the problems. 414 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 4: He's saying that Ivan said what he said after the game, 415 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 4: not based on what necessarily happened in that game, but 416 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 4: all leaning towards that don't interfere with they are. 417 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 3: That that tells me because I was sitting watching Ivan 418 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 3: press Cubs and he's going, I'm I'm really worried. I'm 419 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: I'm having a lot of anxiety about that. I thought 420 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: you're having anxiety about that live in my life. 421 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 5: It is a terrible decision and that gives me a 422 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 5: lot of anxiety around next week if that bunk of 423 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 5: fish I think was that was wrong and it's been 424 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 5: happening all year and that Yeah, they shouldn't have even scored. 425 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 5: You know, we shouldn't have been down there like we 426 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 5: Actually that was the one time we sort of sort 427 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 5: of our stuff out. 428 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: Round to play perfectly. Ran to his inside Childer. 429 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 5: He actually Siffer, Actually he actually initiated contact. 430 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that worries. 431 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 5: Me about next week if that same bunk official, either 432 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 5: he or someone else is going off the same script. 433 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm concerned. But I'm having a lot of anxiety. 434 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: And I thought, well, the reason is that's where they're 435 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: going to go in the Grand Final, and that's who 436 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 3: they're going to right at the point, that's exactly the 437 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 3: sequence they're going to play. 438 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you. I'd rather have Ivan's head 439 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 4: noise than your head noise. But there's no doubt that 440 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 4: I agreed with Ivan. I thought this was a poor decision. 441 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 4: That is Talakai taking a dive and a bump into 442 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 4: a player. 443 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: Yep. 444 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 4: One of the things that this game has done wrong, 445 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 4: in my opinion is taken the football ex football person 446 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 4: out of the bunker to give some football knowledge to it. 447 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 4: But you might be right having that as a known 448 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 4: fact that they will be targeting the centers of the 449 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 4: Melbourne store and having that given no try. 450 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: I think that was a bad call. 451 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 3: And Asley came out today Gray man Azlein said it 452 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 3: was a try. 453 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: Really interesting. 454 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 4: You got, mate, you got in this game? Give me 455 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 4: winner score? Well, Churchill put you on the spot. 456 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 3: Now, look, this game could very easily because you've got 457 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 3: two sides that are so close, two sides that are 458 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 3: great at arm wrestle, and two creative players that are 459 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: brilliant under pressure big game players. Everything to million points towards. 460 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 3: It almost been a golden point type game. Just one 461 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 3: or two points at the very end is going to 462 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 3: split them. I look, I love the way the Melbourne 463 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: Storm are playing. I think the Melbourne Storm look a 464 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 3: little bit more fresh than the Penris side. However, right 465 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 3: from the middle of the year, I've said that Penals 466 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: will win the comp they'll go for in a row, 467 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: so I'm going to stick with them. 468 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. 469 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 4: I think it is going golden point Penish defense up 470 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 4: against the running game of the Melbourne Storm spine. In 471 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 4: big games normally defense overrules attack. 472 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: But I'm hoping that the Melbourne Storm can get it done. 473 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 4: Golden point twenty three to twenty two. 474 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll go hmm, God, I'm indecisive today, didn't have breakfast. 475 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 3: Love those fruit loops. I'll go twenty all into golden point. 476 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 3: Nathan Cleary Key So twenty one twenty Clivee. 477 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: Churchill Medal Old Dylan Edwards. You don't go broke back 478 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: in the day. 479 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 3: You didn't go break back in Bart Cummings of. 480 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: The Melbourne Cup. You don't go broke back in Dylan Edwards. 481 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 4: In big games, Yeah, I reckon Papous is the key 482 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 4: for the Melbourne Storm. 483 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, trigger game tee. What taught me through Munster? 484 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 3: Just quick the going into this game Like Munster in 485 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 3: these really really big games. 486 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 4: He's almost got like this mindset that someone like Nicko 487 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 4: Hines needs to take a bit out of. Like he 488 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 4: will walk into a cour stadium on Sunday night thinking 489 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 4: that he's about to dominate. He's like Leeds there of 490 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 4: a rockband that walks out on stage and just when 491 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 4: the bright lights turned on and turns it on. Liam Gallia, Yeah, overthings. 492 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 4: I think when he overthinks it and gets too creative 493 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 4: and too game of chess, he loses thrust. But I 494 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 4: think he'll be a mars Man. I think Martin isn't 495 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 4: going to miss his assignment. Hughes super confident, but it 496 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 4: could be a big week for Jerome with everything that's 497 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 4: going on, So I think they're sort of worried about it, 498 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 4: and that's when it opens up for someone like Harry 499 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 4: Grant will be making a lot of tackles. I just 500 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 4: feel like Papenhausen might be the point of difference. 501 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 3: Remember a few years ago after when Melbourne the Grand 502 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 3: Final and I asked Manster, I said to him, was 503 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 3: on TV or radio. I said to him, so money, 504 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 3: when when you call the ball and you're heading towards 505 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: the line, what do you think about what you're looking for? Anyway, 506 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 3: when I run to the line, he said, you gotta understand, 507 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: I'm like that monkey who's got those two plate things 508 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 3: all symbols. 509 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: I think you said that. 510 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 3: A couple of times since Jerome Hughes Delian medal. 511 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: He deserves it. Cops, been a great year. Well not 512 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: good on you, mate. Now we'll run to you.