1 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fear and Greed business news you can use today. 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: The local share market is set to tumble after the 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: price of oil pushes above ninety two US dollars a barrel. 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: Some petrol wholesalers begin rationing supplies to service stations, and 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: Australia Post manages to deliver more than three thousand parcels 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: a minute during the Christmas rush, plus a strong week 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: for auctions, And how the boom in data centers has 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: created a boom in man camps. It's Monday, the ninth 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: of March twenty twenty six. I'm Michael Thompson and good 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: morning Sewan ailma a man camp. 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: I wouldn't think of anything worse. We'll get to it though. 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: It's actually something I never thought I would say in 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: Fear and Greed, especially especially not in the headlines. But yes, 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: you're right, we will get to that a bit later 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: on the main story this morning, Sean. The local share 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: market set to tumble today after oil prices surged beyond 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: ninety two US dollars a barrel, and US President Donald 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: Trump on social media said Iran would be hit very 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: hard and the war could expand to other areas and 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: other groups of people. After falling nearly four percent last week, 21 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: the SMPASX two hundred is set to open nearly two 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: percent lower. According to futures trading, Oil prices have risen 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: on the back of feared production disruption throughout the Middle 24 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: East and the closure of the Strait of Humus, which 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: shifts about twenty percent of the world's oil supply, so 26 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: it is an absolutely critical passage that one. Over the weekend, 27 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: Iranian state media reported that an oil storage facility in 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: southern Tehran had been hit in a US Israeli strike. 29 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps indicated it would retaliate by 30 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: striking a refinery in Israel. Meanwhile, the UAE and Kuwait 31 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: have both started cutting oil output simply because they can't 32 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: actually ship it anywhere exactly. 33 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: All that together push Brent to ninety two dollars and 34 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: sixty nine cents US a barrel over the weekend, the 35 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: highest level in eighteen months, and even then it only 36 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: touched that level briefly eighteen months ago. We've taking it 37 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: back to about twenty twenty two or so to get 38 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: back to these sorts of numbers. Brent is up thirty 39 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: four percent over the past month. The price of oil 40 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: is key to share markets because it's critical to economic 41 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: prosperity for many economies, including the United States and Australia. 42 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: Higher prices push up transportation costs, including at the bowser 43 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: That can leave consumers with less money to spend on 44 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: other things. It also pushes up production costs, which of 45 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 2: course rely on transportation and energy. And when you get 46 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: rising prices, central banks tend to think more about lifting 47 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: interest rates, which of course that slows down the economy 48 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: as well. 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: We're already seeing a slowdown in the US. We're with 50 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: labor market data showing nearly one hundred thousand jobs of reduction. 51 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: Now that's coming to cross over the weekend. There's also 52 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: plenty of signs of inflation in the world's largest economy. 53 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: Slowing economy with inflation sounds a lot like stagflation. Sean, 54 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: I've been listening to you over a long period of time. 55 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: Well done, and I know nobody wants that, no, I mean, 56 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: it's a very big test for the Trump administration. Oil 57 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: prices are rising because of the Middle East conflict. Gas 58 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: prizes in the US hit their highest level last week 59 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: compared to any other time during the Trump presidency, the 60 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: pace of economic growth, according to the FED, is slowing, 61 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: while tariff produced inflation is rising. This whole stagflation phenomenon 62 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: that of course becomes a political problem for Donald Trump 63 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: with midterm elections later in the year. People almost always 64 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: vote based on what's good for them. If we have 65 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 2: prices rising, people struggling to find a job, they will 66 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: not be happy. 67 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: I've talked in the past about the fact that in 68 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: the end, elections are decided on the hip pocket, really, 69 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: aren't they. It is based on the economy for everything else. 70 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: That and a lot of kind of national security and 71 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: other things create a lot of noise during election campaigns, 72 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: But what people actually vote on in the end is 73 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: what is going to be best for them, their household, 74 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: households and really their finances and their security. 75 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: I mean. The irony of all this is the Maga 76 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: movement is starting to splinter somewhat over the war in 77 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: the Middle East. The Mega movement put Donald Trump in power. 78 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: They're splitting saying, hey, we're not actually all about invading 79 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: other nations or bombing other nations. It's actually about looking 80 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: after us here at home. There would be an irony 81 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: if his foreign policy. Actually, I mean because he's supposed 82 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: to be a peace president. Of course his foreign policy 83 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: caused him to lose or the Republicans to lose the 84 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: midterm elections. But that's what it's looking like, simply because 85 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: people are actually worried about have they got a job, 86 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: Can they put gas in their car, Can they put 87 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 2: food on the table? That type of thing. 88 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, A cool side effect, a casualty of the 89 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: conflict in the Middle East is the relationship between the 90 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: US and the UK. This is really quite extraordinary, with 91 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: President Donald Trump telling the UK Prime Minister Kirstarma that 92 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: his country did not need its quote once great ally 93 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: Britain to send aircraft carriers to the region. 94 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: The US president said he will remember the lack of 95 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: British support for his war with Iran, adding at the 96 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: US doesn't need people to join wars after they've already won. Now. 97 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: He made the remarks after it emerged that Royal Navy 98 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: UK Royal Navy was preparing HMS Prince of Wales, one 99 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: of its two aircraft carriers, for possible deployment till the 100 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 2: Middle East within the next five days. Donald Trump basically said, 101 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: you're two weeks late and had a royal crack at them. 102 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: In terms of what's happening on the ground, fighting continues 103 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: at Israel, Lebanon, Iran. Three oil refineries in Tehran struck 104 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: by Israel. Wila Tower in the Dubai Marina was hit 105 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: by Iranian missiles Astraighta. 106 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: The Iranian president appeared on State TV said he wanted 107 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: good relations with his neighbors and retaliations against strikes doesn't 108 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: mean that they had a problem with them. I'm not 109 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: sure the logic in that one is. Donald Trump appears 110 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: to have back tracked on letting Kurds joined the war, 111 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: saying it's complicated enough already. Back home. Foreign Mister Penny 112 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 2: Wong said Australia is considering aiding golf countries to protect 113 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: them against drone and missile attacks, but she ruled out 114 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: direct offensive action against Iran. 115 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: Okay, plenty more still to come back in a moment 116 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: with the rest of the day's business news. Sean fuel 117 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: rationing in Australia has been introduced by one wholesaler in 118 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: the way of the Middle East conflict. United Petroleum has 119 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: told customers it has suspended normal fuel allocations across all 120 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: locations effective immediately, citing uncertainty and global oil markets and 121 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: potential disruption to shipping routes and to freight availability. 122 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: United Petroleum is one of Australia's largest independent fuel wholesalers 123 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: and retailers, supplying petrol and diesel now. In a note 124 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: to customers, United Petroleum said the move was a precautionary 125 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: step while the company assessed its fuel inventories and incoming 126 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: cargo schedules. According to report in The Australian Wholesalers, what 127 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: do they do where they buy fuel from refineries refineries 128 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: in Australia or at import terminals where the boats come 129 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: drop it off. They basically put it in the tankers, 130 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: they sell it and distribute it to service stations. They 131 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: are the middle guysers there. When allocations are restricted, distributors 132 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: such as service stations get less than what they want. 133 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: Part of the problem with this, of course, is that 134 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: we are talking about it and when people think petrol's 135 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: going to be rationed, that means people go and panic 136 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: by Australian Institute of Petroleum Chief Executive Malcolm Roberts said 137 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: the industry had observed a sharp increase in fuel purchases 138 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 2: since the conflict began in ouran. 139 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: We talked on Friday afternoon in the afternoon report, didn't 140 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: we about the fact that the hble SEE is really 141 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: watching closely to see whether service stations are potentially lifting, Yeah, 142 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: lift and lifting prices prematurely. That yes, of course this 143 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: is going to cause a spike in petrol prices. But 144 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: the way that the petrol price cycle works is that 145 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: if there is an increase in the price of oil, 146 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: it's usually an extended period of time before it flows 147 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: through to the bowser. And there is concern that some 148 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: may be increasing prices prematurely ahead of the point at 149 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: which that would actually flow through. 150 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a couple of weeks is generally the 151 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: rule of thumb takes a couple of weeks. What we 152 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: did talk about last week was that oil prices were, sorry, 153 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: petrol prices were rising before this Middle East conflict actually 154 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: happened anyway, So it's kind of hard to work out 155 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: what is just the cyclical nature of it. Yeah, and 156 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: then the impact of the Middle East conflict. 157 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, And it's something that's always feels a bit 158 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: dense to try and understand that it's fair to say 159 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: that the way that petrol prices and diesel prices actually 160 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: work are the best of times with the ah triable. 161 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: C is certainly keeping a very close eye on it now. 162 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: Long weekends in Victoria, South Australia and the Act cut 163 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: the number of homes up for auction over the past week, 164 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: though the combined preliminary clearance rate was a relatively strong, 165 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: very healthy seventy two point one percent. 166 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 2: That's right. Sydney hasted nearly a thousand auctions with its 167 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: pc R, otherwise known as the preliminary clearance rate. You 168 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: are are you atty better at that? 169 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to say you were cured. You went for 170 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: a year where you could not say that, and now 171 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: you just show off. 172 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: Just slow down. Preliminary clearance rate just like that. Seventy 173 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: four point three percent in Sydney will above the previous 174 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: weeks sixty five and a half percent. Melbourne had fewer options. 175 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: There was a grand prix going on down there. Of course, 176 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: its preliminary clearance rate came and at sixty five and 177 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: a half percent. Numbers is a bit difficult to read 178 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: really given the disruption from the long weekend in those states, 179 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: but undoubtedly the potential for hire interest rates is playing 180 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: a role. So what do we know about higher interest rates? Well, 181 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: there was the Bank Board meets in eight days time 182 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: to consider higher interest rates. Most of the data they 183 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: look at they've already got. I mean, we have consumer 184 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: sentiment and business sentiment this week, but most of the 185 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: heavy data they've got. So there is a chance of 186 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 2: a rate hike, though I dare say an increase is 187 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: probably more likely to occur in May. What does the 188 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: cook think about all this? 189 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: Michael, Well, he actually thinks broadly that we are being 190 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: a bit negative about the economy and we dig into 191 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: that today in the week ahead because it is a 192 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: slightly quieter week in terms of the data that is 193 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: coming through this week. But it took the opportunity to 194 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: just focus on that question of whether we are being 195 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: too negative that on the back of very strong gdpeople, 196 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: comparatively strong GDP figures that we saw last week, and 197 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: a very strong labor market as well, that perhaps we 198 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: are too quick to jump to the interest rate hike 199 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: side of things, less about just the fact that we 200 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: are in a relatively good position in Australia right now, 201 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: and so it's a it's a really interesting episode coming 202 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: up after the show today, I'm allowed to say it's 203 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: a really interesting episode because it's just a part of it. Yes, Indeed, 204 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: Australia Post has posted five billion dollars in revenue for 205 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: the December half. It had to be said, didn't it. 206 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: Parcels and services now comprising eighty percent of turnover, but 207 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: group profit fell from nearly two hundred and fifty million 208 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: dollars to fifty million. 209 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 2: So a big chunk of that lower profit reflect today 210 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty million dollar investment to transform the business. Basically, 211 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: they've got to meet the surgeon e commerce. It's got 212 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 2: to be delivering parcels, not just letters. The letter business 213 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: continues to run out of loss. Performance in the first 214 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 2: half was driven by a record one hundred and eleven 215 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: million passes delivered a plus in November and December peak period. 216 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: The figure I love from it. Every minute in that 217 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 2: peak period November December obviously Christmas, three thousand and seventy 218 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: five parcels were delivered every minute across the country. Is 219 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: it not phenomenal? I just can't get your hit around that. 220 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: That is amazing and just the logistics required in that, 221 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: and not just the fact that they are delivered, that 222 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: you have the tracking that you have and like almost 223 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: down to the minute, you know where your parcel is. 224 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: It is that is staggering a bit of an Australia 225 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 2: Post fas during the six months it delivered two hundred 226 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: and eighty three million parcels. During that period, letter volumes 227 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: fell by twelve percent to seven hundred and thirty four 228 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: million letters. And that six months seven hundred and thirty 229 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 2: four million letters is still a fair few. Let's be honest. 230 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: That division made a small loss. It would have been 231 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 2: worse if not for a twenty cent increase in the 232 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: basic postal rate. The Australia Past wants another fifteen cent increase. 233 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 2: Do you know what a letter would cost if we 234 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: got well what it costs now before the fifteen cent increase. 235 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: I had no idea how to let this story. 236 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: It has been that long since I actually went and 237 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: bought stamps. No, I don't know what it is. 238 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: It still I was seventy postal letter. 239 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: Wow, I had annoyed if I receive a letter, a 240 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: physical letter, totally. 241 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: I got online immediately and log into yeah. 242 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got one from my super fund last week, 243 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: and I was I was incensed by it. How do 244 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: you send me something on paper, because then I had 245 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: to digitize it and all this anyway, anyway, that's a 246 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: bit of a pet peeve of mine. The asx SEAN 247 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: will simplify rules for listed companies, hoping to have the 248 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: changes in place by the end of the year. Time 249 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: for the clock sticking. 250 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: There before is the Bank Governor Phil Lawyer's chair of 251 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: a new corporate governance body within the AX. He said 252 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: he hopes to reduce compliance burdens for listed companies. Now 253 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: we've spoken a little bit about this. AX currently has 254 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 2: a sixty three page corporate governance rule book. One of 255 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: the reasons companies haven't listed on in recent years is 256 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 2: all that red tape. Also, companies have plenty of options 257 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: when they're trying to access money. So you've got private equity, 258 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: venture capital. But you know, in recent years private credit 259 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: has taken off, so maybe you don't need to go 260 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 2: to the market, you just go to private credit. The 261 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: AX has to become more competitive to compete with these 262 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: asset classes. Therefore they want to simplify things. One of 263 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 2: the major complaints echoed last year by the corporate regulator 264 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: ACIC is the Governor's requirements for a large company like 265 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: Commonwealth Bank or BEAGP pretty much the same for a 266 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: small company. And I'll tell you what, if you're a 267 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: small company, you don't want to be doing BEACHP amount 268 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: of work. 269 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: No, God no. Turning to international news, now, sean the 270 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: rise and rise and rise of data centers, which are 271 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,239 Speaker 1: often located in kind of out of the way regions 272 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: right that have fostered what are becoming known as man 273 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: camps across the US's building companies, they're fighting for staff. 274 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: They've shifted from offering kind of dodgy Wi Fi at 275 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: a local hotel to having temporary villagers set up games 276 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: rooms and free steak and golf simulators and everything. It 277 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: actually sounds kind of cool. 278 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: It is. I mean, it's not a totally unusual concept 279 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: for we in Australia because fly and fly o works normal, 280 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: but these US mini towns are just a little bit flashier. 281 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: So companies that have specialized in short term housing bills 282 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: have shifted their focus from things like immigration detention centers 283 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: to data center accommodation and they're doing really well from it. 284 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: In fact, Bloomberg estimates that seven hundred billion dollars worth 285 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: of mobile housing projects are in the development stage in 286 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: the US, not all for data centers, but they've really 287 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: been spurred by the AI industry. The homes sort of 288 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: vary from wood framed two story apartment buildings. They actually 289 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: look really quite quiet, flash to containerized modular homes down 290 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: to trailer parks less flash, workers get free housing, malls, amenities, 291 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: travel to work, all sorts of things like free Ribbi 292 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: was one of one of them, offics, free rabbis, games rooms, 293 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: golf simulators, those sorts of things. They're actually called workplace hubs, 294 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: not man cams. Workplace and women and married couples are 295 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: part of the communities, but overwhelmingly it is a male 296 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: place of residence rather than anything else. 297 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that this is taking off in the US 298 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: as well, just because they have so many data centers 299 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: and the appetite there's I think the US has I 300 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: think it's eight times more data centers than the next 301 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: country that has got the I think it's the UK 302 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: has about five hundred compared to four thousand in the US, 303 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: but Australia comes in about six or seventh on the list, 304 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: So we are punching well above our weight might as 305 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: they pop this into the Fear and Gray Daily newsletter. Sean, 306 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: it's got all the makings of a wonderful table. 307 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: It has got a table all over it. I think, 308 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: of course, the lease data centers they need power and water, 309 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: and the thing is it's hard to get that in 310 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: urban areas, so to get enough power and water often 311 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: they need to go to far fine places, and that's 312 00:16:58,760 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: why we have these man camps. 313 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: There you go, all right up next Fear and Greed 314 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: Q and A with Stephen Cooculis, our resident economists. 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