WEBVTT - Anthony Albanese’s election night party

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<v Speaker 1>Did you come here tonight expecting to party?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I did, a real name, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it would be this good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Good.

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<v Speaker 2>Against all expectations, Anthony Albernizi has led the Labor Party

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<v Speaker 2>to victory with an increased majority, winning a sway the

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<v Speaker 2>seats across the country for the coalition. The outcome is

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<v Speaker 2>devastating and Peter Dutton is out of a job. On

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<v Speaker 2>top of that, the next generation of Liberal leadership has

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<v Speaker 2>been wiped off the electoral map, setting the party back

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<v Speaker 2>for years to come. From Schwartz Media, I'm Daniel James.

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<v Speaker 2>This is seven am. Today we take you inside Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>Albernese's election night party with special correspondent for the Saturday Paper,

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Gottsukis. We find out how labored to find the

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<v Speaker 2>odds and what it means for the country. It's Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>May four.

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<v Speaker 4>Australians have chosen to face global challengers the Australian way,

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<v Speaker 4>looking after each other while building for the future.

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<v Speaker 2>And to serve these values.

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<v Speaker 4>Meet these challengers, seize these opportunities and build that better

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<v Speaker 4>and stronger future. Australians have chosen a majority Labor government.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason, We've just come from the room where Anthony Albinezi

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<v Speaker 2>gave his victory speech to I'm a rard of ALP supporters,

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<v Speaker 2>followers and true believers. What did he have to say?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I haven't heard Labor supporters cheer as loudly and

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<v Speaker 1>with as much passion in their cheers as since nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety three, when Paul Kenny, of course, won that famous victory,

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<v Speaker 1>which he described as a victory for the true believers,

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<v Speaker 1>the sweetest victory of all. I think everyone in that

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<v Speaker 1>room tonight felt this victory was even sweeter because Labor

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<v Speaker 1>was expected to at best win minority. But they've won

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<v Speaker 1>a thumping majority win and you could hear the relief,

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<v Speaker 1>the joy in the voices of those cheering there tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the Prime Minister sounded a lot more confident

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<v Speaker 1>than he did in his twenty twenty two victory speech.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that he talked about was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kindness.

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<v Speaker 4>For the strength to show courage in adversity and kindness

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<v Speaker 4>to those in need.

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<v Speaker 1>Many times he talked about Australian values and how the

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<v Speaker 1>Labor Party has held true to these values.

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<v Speaker 4>We do not seek our inspiration overseas, we find.

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<v Speaker 2>It right here in our values.

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<v Speaker 4>And in our people.

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<v Speaker 1>He talked about optimism and determination and these enduring foundations

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<v Speaker 1>of fairness and equality. But the biggest cheer at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of that list was when he pulled out his

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<v Speaker 1>Medicare carpet.

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<v Speaker 4>This card is not Labor red or Liberal blue, it

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<v Speaker 4>is green and gold, and.

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<v Speaker 1>The crowd absolutely loved that and nearly lifted the roof

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<v Speaker 1>off the auditorium up there.

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<v Speaker 2>Did the scale of the victory surprise you? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>A shock result in my view, Daniel. We saw some

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<v Speaker 1>polls like the Yugov poll suggesting that a result like

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<v Speaker 1>this was possible, but not many people, I think, believed

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<v Speaker 1>that it possible. Perhaps a few people inside the Labor

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<v Speaker 1>Brains Trust did think it was possible. I heard rumors

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<v Speaker 1>of the Prime Minister telling journalists last week that Labour

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<v Speaker 1>would win more than eighty seats. He's been proven right.

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<v Speaker 1>Never in my wildest imagination did I think that was possible.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a stunning result for the Prime Minister and

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<v Speaker 1>for the Australian Labor Party.

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<v Speaker 2>What in these very early hours of the victory. What

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<v Speaker 2>could you possibly put that down to?

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<v Speaker 1>I think a number of factors that all came together

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<v Speaker 1>at the right time for the ALP. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>as early as January twenty twenty three, Paul Erickson, the

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<v Speaker 1>National Secretary of the Labor Party, had identified the key

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<v Speaker 1>problem with the coalition and that was Peter Dutton himself,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think they started to work out how they

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<v Speaker 1>would showcase that to their advantage as best they could.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw a bit of a test run in the

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<v Speaker 1>Dunkley by election in twenty twenty three. They ran a

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<v Speaker 1>very tight campaign that was very focused on Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 1>and his unpopularity. It worked for them and they've just

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<v Speaker 1>hammered that home.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we're talking about the scope of the victory, Jason,

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<v Speaker 2>what seats in particular surprised you that Labor was able

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<v Speaker 2>to claim victory in well?

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<v Speaker 1>Right throughout this campaign I have been hearing from Liberal

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<v Speaker 1>Party strategists that they were expecting to make big gains

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<v Speaker 1>in traditional labor stronghold seats like where were Whitlam in

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<v Speaker 1>New South Wales, Hawk in Victoria, Gorton in Victoria, this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of traditional safe labor territory, and Labor has increased

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<v Speaker 1>their majorities in those seats and held on to them

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<v Speaker 1>very comfortably. And I think This is a huge blow

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<v Speaker 1>for the Liberal Party strategists that were.

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<v Speaker 2>That were going after these seats hard.

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<v Speaker 1>In a big way. We saw Peter Dutton campaigning in

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<v Speaker 1>Melton in Victoria last Sunday and he was championing that

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<v Speaker 1>fact that here is a Liberal leader in Melton of

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<v Speaker 1>all places, and they suggested that they had a big

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<v Speaker 1>chance to win that seat. But not only did they

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<v Speaker 1>not win it, they suffered a swing against them, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that shows that the Liberal Party has deep problems.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there are the seats that Labor has picked

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<v Speaker 1>up unexpectedly, like Bradden in Tasmania, a massive swing to

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<v Speaker 1>the Labor Party in Bradon bridget Archer, the Liberal moderate

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<v Speaker 1>who's held on to the marginal seat of Bass for

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<v Speaker 1>so long, has been completely wiped off the electoral map.

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<v Speaker 1>Yere other seats in Queensland like Petree, Likeheart, seats that

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<v Speaker 1>we never thought the Labor Party could win. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course the biggest prize of all, the seat of Dixon,

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Dutton's seat Ali France. It's her third time trying

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<v Speaker 1>to win this seat. She's finally prevailed and Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 1>is no longer a member of Parliament. It's extraordinary that

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<v Speaker 1>this could.

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<v Speaker 2>Happen, coming up after the break. What Peter Dutton's loss

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<v Speaker 2>means for the future of the Liberal Party.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, tonight's not denight that we wanted for the Liberal Party,

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<v Speaker 3>or for our coalition, or adeed for our country. But

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<v Speaker 3>we've worked hard every day over the course of the

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<v Speaker 3>last three years to do our best for our amazing country.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the great.

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<v Speaker 2>Honors, Jason. As we know, Peter Dutton lost his seat.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about his campaign. How did you rate it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he ran a terrible campaign. It's an absolutely devastating

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<v Speaker 1>result for the Liberal Party. I can't think of a

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<v Speaker 1>time when an opposition leader has ever lost their seat,

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<v Speaker 1>especially up against a first term government. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>catastrophic defeat for the Liberal Party and Peter Dutton must

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<v Speaker 1>wear the blame for that. He just hasn't done enough

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<v Speaker 1>work to get the Liberal Party even within striking distance

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<v Speaker 1>for the next election. This puts the Liberal Party back

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<v Speaker 1>at least you would think another two terms, and no

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<v Speaker 1>one saw that coming. And I think the Liberal Party

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<v Speaker 1>really does have an existential crisis facing it now. Is

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<v Speaker 1>this a party that can get back into government? It's

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<v Speaker 1>an open question right now, because they have been completely

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<v Speaker 1>wiped out in Victoria. They've suffered massive swings against them

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<v Speaker 1>in Queensland, this is their stronghold. They've lost seats in

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<v Speaker 1>New South Wales that no one ever dreamt that they

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<v Speaker 1>could lose, seats like Banks, which is held by David Coleman,

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<v Speaker 1>Hughes held by Jenny Ware even thought that it was

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<v Speaker 1>possible that people like that could lose their seats. Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Sooker in Victoria's lost his seat. Keith Wallahan in Victoria's

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<v Speaker 1>lost his seat. This is the sort of the future

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<v Speaker 1>of the Liberal Party here and they have been completely out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a devastating result for them.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're too now for the Liberal Party, for the coalition.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a devastating result. The future generations of

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<v Speaker 2>leaders have been wiped out. Any speculation or any early

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<v Speaker 2>discussion about who might take over the party from here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think Dan teen has held his seat in

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<v Speaker 1>the rural Victorian seat of Wan and I think Dan

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<v Speaker 1>ten is going to be a contender for the Liberal leadership.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very experienced, he's got quite a level head on him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's quite presentable, so I think he'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a contender. I think Andrew Hasty in Western Australia is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a contender, assuming of course, that he

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<v Speaker 1>holds his seat. We assume that he will. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Hasty is a very talented politician. He's got a

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<v Speaker 1>big future ahead of him. I'm sure that he will

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<v Speaker 1>consider putting up his hand. Why I say consider is

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<v Speaker 1>that he's quite an inexperienced politician and he might decide

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<v Speaker 1>that he's not ready to put up his hand. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you have Angus Taylor, of course in New South Wales,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Angus Taylor would be the favorite to

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<v Speaker 1>probably win the leadership. The problem is, Angus Taylor is

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<v Speaker 1>not that popular with his colleagues and he's not that

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<v Speaker 1>popular with voters.

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<v Speaker 2>But he might be the right.

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<v Speaker 1>Person to take the Liberal Party through the next year

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<v Speaker 1>or two years, whether he's the person that leads the

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<v Speaker 1>party to the next election. If of course he wins

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<v Speaker 1>the leadership, I would think he might struggle to lead

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<v Speaker 1>the party through a full term, given how unpopular he

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<v Speaker 1>is and how unskilled he is at the art of politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason, everyone thought that Victoria was a wild card in

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<v Speaker 2>this election and that results could go either way. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot if people believe they would go towards the coalition.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened in Victoria tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>The Liberal Party was wiped out in Victoria. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>really think that the Liberal Party holds any of the

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<v Speaker 1>Metropolitan Melbourne seats. These used to be the jewels in

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<v Speaker 1>the crown of the Liberal Party. Robert Menzies, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>is from Victoria. The party founder from Victoria. Now hold

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<v Speaker 1>a seat in the whole state. So a real crisis

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<v Speaker 1>there for the Liberal Party, and so unexpected given that

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<v Speaker 1>Cinder Allen, the Labor Premier in Victoria, has seen to

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<v Speaker 1>be weighing down the Labor brand there. But that proved

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<v Speaker 1>to be a complete mirage and it had no impact

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<v Speaker 1>on the campaign. In fact, they've gone backwards in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think they have to completely rethink the strategy there.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing I'd say about the Liberal Party's campaign

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<v Speaker 1>is that in the Dunkly by election, what we saw

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<v Speaker 1>was from the coalition a heavy emphasis on crime. But

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<v Speaker 1>crime is a state issue. Didn't cut through in the

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<v Speaker 1>Dunkey by election, and it certainly did not cut through

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<v Speaker 1>in the federal election. And we heard Peter Dutton and

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<v Speaker 1>all of his leading frontbenches repeatedly come back to this

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<v Speaker 1>issue of crime rising crime, But I think voters know

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<v Speaker 1>it's got nothing to do with the federal government. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a state issue. And I don't know why the Liberals

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<v Speaker 1>keep banging that drum because it is a loser for them,

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<v Speaker 1>and they lost big on that issue tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I think. So I haven't been around so many happy

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<v Speaker 2>people before in my life, Jason. Things were getting pretty

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<v Speaker 2>loose up there. How do you think things are going

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<v Speaker 2>to play out into the night and beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to get a lot looser tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>People are going to have a lot more of this

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<v Speaker 1>elbow pale ale that's been handed out for free in

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<v Speaker 1>the room. There quite a nice beer. I have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got a portrait of a very game. The Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister said he talked about going back to work tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>From tomorrow tomorrow back at work. Maybe not everyone here

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<v Speaker 4>and that's probably for the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy tonight, but tomorrow the work on the second term starts,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I think all attention will now turn to well,

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<v Speaker 1>who gets what jobs in the new ministry. The Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister signal during the campaign that there was likely to

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<v Speaker 1>be a significant revamp of the ministry. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of talented people on that backbench who are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be looking for a promotion. And then, of course, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the more interesting story is going to be, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what happens to the coalition. They obviously have to elect

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<v Speaker 1>a new leader and they have to work out what

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<v Speaker 1>went wrong, What policies are they going to keep, which

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<v Speaker 1>ones are they going to drop. I think the first

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<v Speaker 1>policy that they're going to be asked about is this

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear policy, and whoever takes over the leadership of the

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<v Speaker 1>party's going to have to make a decision I think

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<v Speaker 1>very early as to whether to dump that policy. There

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<v Speaker 1>will be huge pressure on the Liberal leader to do

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<v Speaker 1>exactly that, because clearly this policy has been a huge

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<v Speaker 1>drag on the Liberal vote and I think they'll have

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<v Speaker 1>to dump that pretty quickly. And then what happens to

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<v Speaker 1>the whole climate change was I think the Liberal Party

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<v Speaker 1>is going to have to decide once and for all

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<v Speaker 1>whether it does support the energy transition to net zero.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to have to get serious about it. The

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<v Speaker 1>climate change policy has been completely repudiated, So some difficult

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<v Speaker 1>times ahead I think for the coalition.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason, thank you so much for your time.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Daniel,