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Speaker 1: We'd like to acknowledge that traditional custodians of the land

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Speaker 1: on which this podcast was produced, the Galligall people of

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Speaker 1: the Urination. We pay our respects to Elder's past and present.

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Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty two and twenty one year old Ned

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Speaker 2: Brockman is noticing he's gained a little weight since he's

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Speaker 2: moved from his hometown in central New South Wales to Sydney.

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Speaker 2: The long hours working as an electrician and the weekend

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Speaker 2: spent partying are taking their toll. So he does what

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Speaker 2: most of us would do. He goes on a health kick. Specifically,

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Speaker 2: he starts running. He does a free k, then a five,

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Speaker 2: loves the way it makes him feel. Ned keeps running

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Speaker 2: long after he ditches the few kilos that first motivated him.

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Speaker 2: Within a year he'll do one hundred k, run fifty

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Speaker 2: marathons in fifty days, and raise hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 2: know his name. In twenty twenty three, it was everywhere

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Speaker 2: when he ran almost four thousand kilometers from Perth to

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Speaker 2: two point six million dollars for charity. I'm Att Middleton

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Speaker 2: and this is head Game Today. How I twenty three

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Speaker 2: year old trade ran into his life's purpose Ned Rocklan,

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Speaker 2: thanks ever so much for joining me on my head

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Speaker 2: Game podcast. You're twenty five year old young man, and

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Speaker 2: you've put some miles on those legs of yours. Now

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Speaker 2: took me through when you first thought it was a

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Speaker 2: good idea to start running. Why did you start running?

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Speaker 2: And where did that come about?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's not a forest Gump like journey.

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Speaker 2: Are you sure? Are you sure? No?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate you having me on mate in honor

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I know my journey. I had a great childhood.

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Speaker 3: My upbringing was one of I would say privilege.

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Speaker 4: I'm very privileged in that you know, a lot of

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Speaker 4: so my upbringing was great. I had two very loving,

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Speaker 4: to be friends with them. It was more like I'm

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Speaker 4: And that's very much what my father, I guess, instilled

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Speaker 4: Our two rules would make sure you're home before dark

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we were complaining unless you're broken or bleeding.

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Speaker 4: And toil of my book showing up, because it's literally

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Speaker 4: Have you ever done before my furthest I'd ever run

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Speaker 4: And that's why what it's always been for me. It's

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Speaker 4: I don't enter events. I don't enter races. I do

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Speaker 2: That's phenomenal though, And the reason why I mentioned that

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Speaker 2: Because once you commit, you in, and once you're in,

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Speaker 2: You just commit to something, you know, like you say,

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Speaker 2: the three Columbents, you go right, let me do break

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Speaker 2: You break it down like that.

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Speaker 3: And I was listening.

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Speaker 4: I was actually listening to your podcast with the Boys

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Speaker 3: Mine with Todd is his own.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I talk about I talk about the like

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Speaker 4: when I do a lot of cannote speaking, I talk

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Speaker 4: about like the thrown at sea analogy, right, like you

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Speaker 4: there otherwise you drown. Yeah, like there is no other option, right,

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Speaker 2: I always say that to people when you leave yourself,

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Speaker 4: I run to bring on the mental indeed. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to. I want to feel those things.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to, And I don't want to sound

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Speaker 4: the change.

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00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,199
Speaker 2: To film it. Yeah, the purpose of running is for

443
00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,720
Speaker 2: self fulfillment, right, if you want to just feel alive,

444
00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,280
Speaker 2: you want to feel you know.

445
00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,840
Speaker 3: You know what I if I remove myself from it all. Yeah,

446
00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,320
Speaker 3: it's like I want to live.

447
00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,119
Speaker 4: I want to live each day to the fullest, right,

448
00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,600
Speaker 4: I want to just make the most ring that towel.

449
00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,360
Speaker 2: Just squeeze it every drop, yeah.

450
00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:29,639
Speaker 3: Every last bit.

451
00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,199
Speaker 4: And when I don't, I feel I've just like almost

452
00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:32,840
Speaker 4: wasted it.

453
00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,640
Speaker 3: Right, And then I want to give, so live and give.

454
00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,640
Speaker 4: So I want to give because I know the more

455
00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,480
Speaker 4: you give without wanting to hear anything in return, you

456
00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,639
Speaker 4: just spread this good energy, right like you give your smile,

457
00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,600
Speaker 4: give your seat up, go buy someone a coffee.

458
00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,040
Speaker 2: So that's all I've got is to give back, you

459
00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,240
Speaker 2: know exactly. You know, financial things, materialistical things, they come

460
00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,840
Speaker 2: and go. But what you give someone, you know, how

461
00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,840
Speaker 2: you make someone feel absolutely is you know, even that

462
00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,680
Speaker 2: little hope of inspiration, that that little bit of hope

463
00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,760
Speaker 2: that little bit of positivity, like you say to smile

464
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,200
Speaker 2: all for that, And that's what I do. Give back,

465
00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,480
Speaker 2: give back, and give back, So that is.

466
00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,000
Speaker 3: Your y live, give and get uncomfortable.

467
00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:13,280
Speaker 2: Wow.

468
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:13,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

469
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,920
Speaker 4: And even like even walking through here, like I'll see

470
00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,439
Speaker 4: people at their desk and they go, hey, going, I've

471
00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:18,480
Speaker 4: never been better mate, how are you?

472
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, They're just like, what the hell do you expect that?

473
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,800
Speaker 4: And it's like it might be like, oh yeah, actually no,

474
00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,800
Speaker 4: I'm good, and it might be that it's like all

475
00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,080
Speaker 4: of a sudden, they give it to them, they give

476
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:26,560
Speaker 4: it to them.

477
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,920
Speaker 3: And you're just you are what you say you are.

478
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,000
Speaker 3: You know, you're believing in it.

479
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,520
Speaker 4: And so there it's They're the things I probably live

480
00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,560
Speaker 4: by there. My priorities in life is to live, give,

481
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,880
Speaker 4: and get uncomfortable. They're it and so I don't lean

482
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 4: on that to get me through things. I just that's

483
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 4: what I do. And these things are the part that

484
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,000
Speaker 4: give me the uncomfortable part. They give me the living

485
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,960
Speaker 4: part and they live in they give me the giving part.

486
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,680
Speaker 4: So the running is like I make the decision and

487
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:55,240
Speaker 4: I'm doing it.

488
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,480
Speaker 2: You're doing it, yeah, yeah, because you know that you

489
00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,679
Speaker 2: want to get all of these things out exactly to

490
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 2: keep you present in the moment, the exact formula. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

491
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 2: I'm it's phenomenal how we think the same because I

492
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 2: completely get it. So you do fifty malethins and fifty

493
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 2: days are still not enough, yep, ned, So what do

494
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 2: you decide to do? Please share with me because I

495
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,920
Speaker 2: can't even read it off my paper is mental. Yeah.

496
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 3: So I finished that in a year went by. I

497
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 3: got pretty injured.

498
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 4: But in the day nine of the fifty miles on

499
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 4: fifty days, I heard someone had run across Australia and

500
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,360
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, that's cool. And you know, there's

501
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 4: all these ultra running worlds, same with like boxing or

502
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 4: same with whatever. You know, You've got these worlds that

503
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 4: I've got no idea about. And if you really, if

504
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 4: you start boxing, all of a sudden, you know about

505
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 4: all this other stuff.

506
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 2: Right absolutely.

507
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 4: For me, I started running to lose weight and I

508
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 4: felt good. And so I'm dipping my toe into this

509
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 4: ultra running world where there's you know, years and years

510
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 4: and years of history in it, right yeah, and people

511
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 4: like the records of this and this person and the

512
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 4: holy grail of ultra running and who is there.

513
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and I'm like, right, guys, I'm taking on

514
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,400
Speaker 3: the fastest ever run across Australia.

515
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 4: And it's like these things have been done for tens

516
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 4: of tens of years, right, like nineteen seventy someone did it. Yeah, mate,

517
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 4: it was And so just this eager, young twenty two

518
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 4: year old screaming it to the world on Today's Show,

519
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 4: I'm doing this, taking it on. I've only ever run

520
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 4: one hundred k once. I'm gonna run a hundred k

521
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 4: a day across this country.

522
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 3: And I think it was a lot of like.

523
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, yeah, raise the eyebrown, yeah yeah, full

524
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 2: of himself. Yeah, give him a couple of days and

525
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 2: beyond his ass big time. Yeah, cheers, thanks for your effort.

526
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 2: Is a little bit of money for charity, one hundred

527
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 2: percent and go and hide under your rock. Absolutely, this

528
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 2: is this is good.

529
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 4: I'm I yeah, said out there, I'm in my only

530
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 4: sponsors at the time when I said I was going

531
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 4: to do it with budget smuggling PUSSI socks hopped on

532
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 4: Today Show and my budget smugglers sitting between Carl Stefanovic

533
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 4: and Ali Today's Show and go, I'm going to run

534
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 4: across Australia in forty three days, and I'm going to

535
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 4: raise million dollars for homelessness because that's something I'm really

536
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 4: I've never been homeless, but it's something you're passionate about.

537
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, how on earth are we got homeless people? Yeah,

538
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 3: that's something And I remember just like pulling it out there.

539
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 4: And that was again, up until that point, the most

540
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 4: nerves I'd ever been was when I said I'm gonna

541
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 4: do the fifty marathons.

542
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 3: And then at that point.

543
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 4: In time was the most nervese I'd ever been because again,

544
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,479
Speaker 4: that accountability. It's like, if you say you are who

545
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 4: you are, You're going to have to freaking die on

546
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 4: your sword.

547
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, you're putting you out there. You're gonna have

548
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 2: to lay on it now, mate, Like once you put

549
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 2: it out there that yeah, so you put yourself out there,

550
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 2: you go on you go on TV shows, You're going

551
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 2: to talk me through when you first realized, wow, this

552
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: side of life is.

553
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's funny when you're not to.

554
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 4: The height of what people kind of put you in.

555
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 4: When you're on the way up, especially here in Australia,

556
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 4: they're like, go for it, mate, you do your think.

557
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 4: You know this is awesome. You know you're not you're

558
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 4: not threatening their position. So it's like it's all good,

559
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 4: go Maddie, we we're all for yuh where You're amazing.

560
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 3: Soon as soon as you do do it, and then

561
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 3: you say you're doing something else.

562
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 4: You are as they want to.

563
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 2: Pull you back.

564
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 3: You but don't be that you.

565
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, like be who you are,

566
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 4: but oh, don't be who you are, like come back

567
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 4: down for me. It was it was very easy prior

568
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 4: to now in that it would just be a block

569
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 4: and delete because anyone willing to have a say on anything,

570
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 4: it's like block and delete set. I used to use

571
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 4: it as fuel. I'm not gonna lie. Used to put

572
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 4: it up on the wall, say this person said this,

573
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 4: wake up in the morning, look at it.

574
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 3: You go to sleep, look at it.

575
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 4: And then I went, that's not enough. That's not enough

576
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 4: to get me through this training block. That's not enough

577
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 4: to get me through those times where I haven't slept

578
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 4: for four freaking weeks more than an hour a night.

579
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 3: You know what that is?

580
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 4: That's that being someone with integrity, being that person of

581
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 4: your work. That's what's going to get you through that

582
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 4: fucking another one hundred k day and.

583
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 3: So now it's like one hundred k a day.

584
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and so yeah. I put it out there

585
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 4: and ended up getting sponsors, got to the start line

586
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 4: in Cotozo, which is four thousand k from here, And

587
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 4: how do you.

588
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: Train for that? Not physically so much was mentally.

589
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 4: You've almost got to be in a vault, like you've

590
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 4: got to put yourself in this kind of little and

591
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 4: anyone in that world must be playing a role. Anyone

592
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 4: that isn't out just like sole focus. And then the

593
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 4: other thing is in that lead up. Shit's gonna happen.

594
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 3: You needet injured. All these things.

595
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 4: One thing I really held, like I keep saying this

596
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 4: personal word, but I would have these things where it's

597
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 4: like if I thought of an ice ba, and this

598
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 4: is prior to ice bath being a super big fan,

599
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 4: if I thought of an ice bath, I had to

600
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 4: go hop in it. So I'd wake up at eleven

601
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 4: thirty at night think about the ice ba, and I

602
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 4: got fuck me, if you go downstairs, hop in the

603
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 4: ice bath, go back up, because that was the thing

604
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 4: I'd made, even to the point of like a takeaway

605
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 4: coffee cup. I made a decision to never have a

606
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 4: takeaway coffee cup, and so no matter the scenario I

607
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 4: was in, I always had to have a dining cup.

608
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 4: And so just to that little because you said you're

609
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 4: gonna do it, don't let that slip, because when you

610
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 4: let that slip, you're gonna let these things slip down

611
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 4: the line.

612
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: Take me through the first day you start this run

613
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: from Perth to Bondai Beach. You've got this mammoth, mammoth

614
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 2: task ahead of you. You wake up, what's the first

615
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 2: thing you do? What's going for your head?

616
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 3: I didn't sleep at all. You didn't like, just get

617
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 3: me there, just get me started.

618
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 4: And I remember I drove the van down with Dad

619
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 4: and my team in there and just blasted ac DC.

620
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah back in black Man.

621
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 4: Just like heading down this thing at four am, and

622
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 4: I told everyone, anyone who wanted to come down four

623
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 4: if I'll be I'll be off. I didn't want to

624
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 4: speak to any media. I just wanted to get there,

625
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 4: feel it, enjoy it. And then yeah, I got down

626
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 4: there and there was probably like thirty forty people at

627
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 4: quarter to five in the morning.

628
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 3: I was like, this is pretty special.

629
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 4: I never had any intention of doing this, wanting to

630
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 4: become someone or wanting to, you know, somewhat be known.

631
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 3: It was only evident leave, giving get Yeah.

632
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always been my thing, and so whatever came

633
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 4: of it was just going to come of it. And yeah,

634
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 4: so I left. It was really really special leaving. And

635
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 4: then it was like, right, we're on, We're finally. I

636
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 4: felt free. I felt free.

637
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 2: Because you freak you felt free.

638
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is my absolute answer to that is like

639
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 4: for six months I was almost caged.

640
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, fucking line.

641
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 4: Just like, let me out of this freaking hell hole.

642
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 4: I need to start, and I feel.

643
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 2: This anticipate in unleash media and go let me.

644
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm finally here.

645
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 2: Let's feel every you know, layer of skin, feel every nerve,

646
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: every Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah.

647
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 3: And then so I hit I hit fifty K, and

648
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: I was like, finally I'm in it.

649
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 4: Like I'm feeling a bit of a bit of pain,

650
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 4: but like, okay, we're good, We're ready to go.

651
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 3: And then yeah, fifty K.

652
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 4: I got one hundred k done, got it doneretty quick,

653
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: one hundred and three k that first day.

654
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: So how how long was that day for you?

655
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 3: Roughly eleven and a half twelve hours.

656
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I remember we got we finished the day

657
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,719
Speaker 4: and everyone was just like kind of the team were

658
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 4: kind of celebrating.

659
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 3: And because this is it was a very cowboy operation.

660
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: It wasn't like yeah, well right, yeah, you're just yeah,

661
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: you've got the root, Yeah, we know the full fuel.

662
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 4: Stops and you've got enough food for the last week.

663
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 4: We're we'll get food along the way. And then we

664
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 4: got to the end of day one and Dad's oh

665
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 4: yeah sweet, and Gemma and all these other everyone else

666
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 4: was like, oh, you know, this is great, and we're

667
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 4: still probably forty minutes before I even got back to

668
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 4: where we was staying the night, and I'm like, this

669
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 4: is digging into like food time, shower time, sleeping time.

670
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 3: And then I'm like, we.

671
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 4: Better get this sorted because and then it just became

672
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 4: like exactly like that. It was like, hey, guys, we're

673
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 4: at this ship, like when are you thinking.

674
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: About You weren't as organized as as it could have been,

675
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: where you're saving yourself minutes which food with covery rest.

676
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: So as the time goes on, the days go on,

677
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: and you get more and more frustrated.

678
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 4: Well not frustrated, but I knew that time was of

679
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 4: the essence, like we had My days were getting longer

680
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 4: because I was getting more sore and I was less

681
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 4: more tired, and I couldn't get as quick as I could.

682
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 3: From A to B.

683
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: How did that affect you psychologically?

684
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? Not great because I'm very to the time.

685
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, focusing on the task ahead. Do you want to

686
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: focus on the task ahead? You want to hand yourself

687
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: over really and go? But yes, this is where you

688
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: need to be. Here's your food, here's your thing. Bang,

689
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: because I can focus on the money, so you'll you'll want.

690
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 4: To think about I'm a toddler about how do I

691
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 4: get from A to B? Everything else would be saw

692
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 4: it and that is the role of it, And it

693
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 4: wasn't and not straight up. And then Mum got their

694
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 4: day three and it was like mom was part of

695
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 4: your crew. Yeah, but she got their day three. So

696
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 4: the first three days were fucking chaos, fucking and so

697
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 4: Mum's just like leader. Mom's a fucking leader. Yeah, she's

698
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 4: just rocked up and going.

699
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: Right, this is what you're doing.

700
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 4: You're cleaning this, you're taking this, you're driving here, you're

701
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 4: getting this accommodation.

702
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: See that you're super frust Did she see that you're

703
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 2: distracted rather than frustrated? Did she see that you're distracted

704
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: and you're you're you're you know, you're in a what

705
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: I had space that you should be.

706
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 4: My energy is getting consumed by what these what everyone's

707
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 4: not doing as opposed to what I should.

708
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: I'm taking up energy on other things, should be thinking.

709
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 4: People knows that, mate, She's yeah, she'll be there on

710
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 4: every event I ever do.

711
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: And what were you like for the first week. Let's

712
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: go back to that further.

713
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: What were you like that first week?

714
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 4: We got seven hundred and eight k in that first week,

715
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 4: and I like that as a small win. Was like,

716
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 4: I've just run seven hundred kilometers in a week. I've

717
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 4: never done that in my life. Biggest week ever was

718
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 4: three hundred k's. Had a pretty severe injury happened on

719
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 4: day eleven on my shin I anterior to b allis.

720
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 4: Basically I had TENO sign of itis, so like a

721
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 4: really bad tender iis. Yeah, I could not.

722
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: Run, Like I can deal with pain pretty well, but

723
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 3: I just could not run.

724
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: How much pain were you in? Let's put it in

725
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,239
Speaker 2: perspective for the listeners here.

726
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 4: By this day eleven. My mum was sitting there crying

727
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: at the thought I had to run again because she

728
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 4: could see the waddle and the dragging of feet and

729
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 4: the cracking of everything.

730
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. I would wake up and I would just be like,

731
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 3: put me out this misery.

732
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: We'll get you through it.

733
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: I'm alive, You're alive.

734
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: Gratitude.

735
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I was finally in it and I

736
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 4: had the cost I was willing to pay. The price

737
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 4: I was willing to pay was whatever got thrown at me.

738
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

739
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 4: So the fact that I'd wake up and each like

740
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 4: a kid, you not, like my alarm would go off,

741
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 4: I would not sleep r I'd be tossing turn the

742
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 4: whole fucking night, had ice and voltaire and herodoid cream

743
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 4: all over every joint, clean wrap all over it, trying

744
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 4: to just really get it to sweat and minimize anti inflammation,

745
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 4: like anti inflammation.

746
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 3: And I would wake up in panics, like I would

747
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: be screaming and like.

748
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 4: Stopping my watch, like because That's what I was doing

749
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 4: all day, just like pausing my watch and getting out

750
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 4: of the side of road trains and all this. And

751
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 4: so I'd wake up at like two o'clock on oh no,

752
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 4: like oh no, this is we have to go again,

753
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 4: and then no, we've got two hours, Okay, wake up again.

754
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 3: It's panic because I just.

755
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 4: Knew that by when four I am here, it's like

756
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 4: shoes are on, You're experiencing another sixteen hours of torture.

757
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: This is phenomenal because I say when people ask me

758
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: the question, how do you succeed at an elite level?

759
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: How do you succeed at the top? And I ask

760
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: them one question, how much are you willing to sacrifice?

761
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: You know, yourself, your body, you know, how much are

762
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: you willing to sacrifice will determine how high you succeed.

763
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: You're willing to put everything on the line. And that's

764
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: what I've done in the military. I was willing to

765
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: sacrifice my life to get the job done, and that

766
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: always got me through.

767
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

768
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 4: You know, the only time I have ever been in

769
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 4: this conversation where I've gone back to that moment because

770
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,959
Speaker 4: I reckon, I've switched it off. I've actually like trauma

771
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 4: walled up, forgotten about that. The only other time I

772
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 4: ever talked about like being in bed on day eleven

773
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 4: and just like rolling around and saying it's two am

774
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 4: and freaking out was with Goggins when I was having

775
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 4: dinner with him and twenty other people, and everyone's trying

776
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 4: to understand what he's saying about, you know, because I

777
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 4: know he doesn't talk about the actual pain he was

778
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 4: in on his hell weeks and all that stuff.

779
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: He just talks about references that I had to trap

780
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: up my legs whatever.

781
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 4: When I was sitting there having dinner with it, I go,

782
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 4: I can't really talk about it because most people will

783
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 4: not understand because they no one is. The only way

784
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 4: you can agree with someone is if you've been in

785
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 4: a fucking scenario, like you have an energy of like

786
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 4: I get what you're saying, and Gogglins goes you think

787
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 4: we're fucking masochists if you heard what we actually went

788
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 4: through to goes through that, and I was just like, yeah,

789
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 4: that makes sense, And that's just the other that's the

790
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,239
Speaker 4: other time, only other time I ever brought that up.

791
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 3: I felt like I was bored a line going to die.

792
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's the only way.

793
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: I'd never talk about that.

794
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 4: You never never spoke about any podcast like that because

795
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 4: because people get right yeah no, no, no, no, yeah.

796
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 4: And so I got this injury on like day eleven,

797
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 4: it was just like, right, let's how do we fucking

798
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 4: sort this out? Because I'm not gonna stop. It were

799
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 4: eleven days in, let's go, let's get it done. And

800
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 4: then the tides turn like it's like the world's going

801
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 4: You're not gonna get this done. You're not gonna get

802
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 4: this done. And you're like, yeah, I am, back me

803
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 4: up against the wall. I am the motherfucking storm.

804
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: Let's go.

805
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: It's the pain barrier, right once you once you get

806
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: through the pain bars, and it would have been multiple

807
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: pain barriers that you would experience. Once you get past

808
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: that threshold of that pain bowler where your body can't

809
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: experience any more pain but it's not broken, then it

810
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: goes back to you go back to your getting a

811
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: you know, a new lease of life. Yeah, so you

812
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: after these you get through and how many days does

813
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: it take you to to complete this? Until it took

814
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: me through the moment that you know you're alive at bondeiach,

815
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: just put me in your headspace.

816
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 4: I also had some of the most amazing moments out

817
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 4: there as well, like it wasn't all just hell on earth?

818
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: Right?

819
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 4: Who was also like, this is you know I get

820
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 4: to spend this time with my parents and I never

821
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 4: get to I get to spend low low moments with

822
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: some of the friendships that I'll never ever be able

823
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 4: to match, right, Like we've gone through a moment of

824
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 4: time together that well, that'll be a core memory for

825
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 4: the rest of our lives. And that's what I want

826
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 4: to do is make those That's all I want to

827
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 4: do on this life, just make those moments. And so, yeah,

828
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 4: we get through all this and it's starting to catch on,

829
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 4: Like I can tell it's starting to catch on people.

830
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 4: I'm just getting told people are talking about it, right,

831
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 4: And it wasn't even until like the final the second

832
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 4: last day that our Prime Minister commented. I don't know

833
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 4: if it was here or the person who runs his page,

834
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 4: but that was kind of what was going on. Like

835
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 4: every you know man and their dog, who's someone here

836
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 4: in Australia was commenting on my post and I was like, oh,

837
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 4: there's like people talking about this. And then that final day,

838
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 4: we're running in and I was probably ten k from

839
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 4: Bondai and there's two helicopters above me Channel seven, Channel nine.

840
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: I get to five k from Bondo Beach.

841
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 4: And there's two police cars stop on the road. No

842
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 4: one shuts down bond No beach. You don't shut down

843
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 4: bond Beach. Yeah, and I've Rockedu yeah, and I was

844
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 4: like what the hell, like, oh my god. And then mate,

845
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 4: every single car heading east was heading to Bondai to

846
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 4: watch this, watch me come in. I remember walking past

847
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 4: like this is the biggest moment every in my life

848
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 4: at this point, right, remember walking past this little old

849
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 4: lady carrying her shopping bags back to her car wherever

850
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 4: she was going that yeah, and I'm going where like

851
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 4: this for me.

852
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 3: Is But life goes on.

853
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 4: And regardless of what I think at this moment in

854
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 4: a day's time, week's time, month time, no one's gonna

855
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 4: give a shit. And that's all you can do is

856
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 4: goes on. Yeah, life goes on, Sun goes up, son

857
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 4: goes down. Just enjoy, just make the most feel as

858
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 4: much as you can feel. And I remember just being like,

859
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 4: it's not that, like you're not that important, like this

860
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 4: isn't just bring yourself down, enjoy it, try and bottle it,

861
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 4: try and feel it all.

862
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: But remember this is just a moment in time. That's

863
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: all it is.

864
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 4: It's not you're not that, You're not more special than anyway,

865
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 4: You're more special than anyone who's homeless or anyone who's got.

866
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:31,479
Speaker 3: We're all the same.

867
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it got to top Bondo Beach. Coppers channel through

868
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 4: they go, is he good to go?

869
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's good to go. Now run down.

870
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 4: Got a full blown police escort down Bondo Beach and

871
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,479
Speaker 4: I saw the promenade, not a single soul on the beach,

872
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 4: on the sand, promenade, just just chokker like I've never

873
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 4: seen it.

874
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, like eight deep, the whole way, whole whole promenade.

875
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 4: And I remember just say going, whoa, you don't deserve this.

876
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 4: Straight that was my initial thought. It was like, you

877
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 4: do not deserve this. This is for people who do

878
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 4: amazing things. This is for And I went, fuck that.

879
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 4: We're all amazing people, we all have the ability to

880
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 4: do these things.

881
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 3: Go and just lap it up.

882
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 4: And I saw a made of mine. I was just

883
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 4: like fuck yeah, just like screen, gutter all screen. And

884
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 4: then just felt it just just come on the moment, Yeah,

885
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,959
Speaker 4: like nothing will get you like that. And like again

886
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 4: it's talking about that period of time and the things

887
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 4: I had to endure in order to get there. Bond

888
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have been the same if it took me

889
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 4: a week to get there and I didn't endure anything.

890
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: It was so bleiss and pure and everything like that.

891
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 4: People who would have had an opinion of me when

892
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 4: they were there in bond I were just screaming like

893
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 4: they just felt so a part of it. Everyone just

894
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 4: felt like everyone was going for the one football team.

895
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 4: There was no opposing teams.

896
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 3: It was just like, he's done it, He's done it.

897
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 4: And all I could see was mom and dad, my physio,

898
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 4: my photographer, my girlfriend at the time, all that who

899
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 4: were the only people on that journey with me.

900
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 3: All I could see was I'll get ten people around me.

901
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, just honed in. Yeah.

902
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 3: It was like we've done it. We've done it.

903
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: Wow, we've done it. We've loved that. Yeah.

904
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 3: And then and then we you know, it was all

905
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 3: a blow from there.

906
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to like know what every news thing,

907
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 4: and got to the top of the Life Saving Club

908
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 4: and I just sat in the room for thirty minutes,

909
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 4: just like hiding, just like watching the people disperse back

910
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 4: into their life me just like you know, there was

911
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: no phone service.

912
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: There was that many people there.

913
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: It was done. It was just like, yeah, it was

914
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: like your life goes on wow, like a time lapse,

915
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: and you're just there and it's like.

916
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 3: This is this is crazy. I'm feeling so many things

917
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 3: and again.

918
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: And it's empty and you leave.

919
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 4: Done, and you know they might talk about for a

920
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 4: week and when they see me they might reference it,

921
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 4: but it's done. And so naturally, as humans, you go, well,

922
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 4: nothing's going to feel like that until you do that again.

923
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: How does it change your life from that moment onwards?

924
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 4: It changed it to was always meant to be in

925
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 4: my opinion, And I can tell you that because I've

926
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 4: been able to talk like this too.

927
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if I have a purpose in.

928
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: As inspiration or whatever it may be, but I know

929
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 4: I am here to live, give and get uncomfortable. Yeah,

930
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 4: And so if I can get people to do that, live,

931
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 4: give and get uncomfortable, if I can be that person

932
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 4: to do that for people.

933
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: Give them a little little hope of inspiration, a little

934
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: seed that they can put in and become a bit

935
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: of version of who.

936
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 4: They are absolutely like their mid run going, they can

937
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 4: do that older yeah, yeah, and then you get that yeah,

938
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 4: And I don't like I'm not just I'm just living,

939
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 4: as I said, I'm twenty five.

940
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to ring that towel drive.

941
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: Well, you're certainly doing that, mate, You are certainly ringing

942
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: it dry before we finish up and wrap up. One

943
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: thing that's really really jumped out of me is gratitude.

944
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: You seem like you're grateful for absolutely everything, everyone and

945
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: every moment and move and that happens. How important is

946
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: gratitude in your life? Yeah, it's essentral you wake up,

947
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: Take that breath. I'm still alive, I'm still here, I'm

948
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 2: still moving.

949
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. I get because I do a lot of work

950
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: with homelessness.

951
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 4: I often get like, I'll get you know, the old

952
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 4: negative nancy about you know, how how good is living?

953
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,959
Speaker 3: Like, I'll say it, I reckon, I say four times

954
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 3: a week on my social media how good is living?

955
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: Time to waken up forward to realizing that I love it.

956
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 3: If you can choose to be negative, why not choose

957
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 3: to be positive?

958
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 2: Exactly?

959
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 4: Like, if your behavior is a choice, why are you

960
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 4: choosing one that's going to bring other people down your

961
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 4: If you your ability is to change the way, like

962
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 4: if you have the ability to change the trajectory of

963
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 4: your day just by choosing to show up in a

964
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 4: certain way.

965
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 3: Why not choose the best way exactly. Yeah.

966
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 2: So last question because I know we've got to wrap up,

967
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: and I don't want.

968
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 3: To wrap up.

969
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: But what's the next for Ned Brockman.

970
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the first time I've said it on

971
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: anything that's going to go out.

972
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 4: So I'm running one thousand miles in ten days around

973
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 4: a track in October, around a track, four hundred and

974
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 4: three laps of the track a day.

975
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: Talk about mixing it up and keeping it spicy.

976
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 4: And wow, one hundred and sixty one k day for

977
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 4: ten days. So the record currently as it stands for

978
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 4: one thousand miles is ten days, ten hours.

979
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 2: So of course we're going for you're going out for that?

980
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: Yeah?

981
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely, what a stupid That was a stupid question to

982
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: even ask. Of course you're going out on that, mate.

983
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 2: Well listen, I'm excited for what's going to happen next, next, next.

984
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: You know, you're twenty five years old, mate, Keep doing

985
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: what you're doing, keep running, keep moving. Thanks man er

986
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 2: so much, yeers, thanks so much for joining me on Headgame.

987
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988
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990
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