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Speaker 1: Hey there, welcome to Healthy Ish. This is, of course

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Speaker 1: your daily podcast Frobody and Soul. I am your host

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Speaker 1: for LISTI Harley. Now, we all want to stay calm

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Speaker 1: rather than feel overwhelmed in life's stressful situations, and my

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Speaker 1: guest today is going to help you do just that.

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Speaker 1: He is a paramedic and author of a new book

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Speaker 1: called The Paramedic Mindset. His name is Lee Anderson, and

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Speaker 1: today he joins us to share the tools he uses

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Speaker 1: to stay calm under pressure in his extremely stressful job. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you want more from Lee, I highly recommend you

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Speaker 1: tune into Extra Healthy Ish, where he talks about how

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Speaker 1: he copes with the trauma involved with his job, and

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Speaker 1: he also shares more tools on how he thrives under pressure.

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Speaker 1: He can search for Extra Healthy Ish wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcasts Lee, thank you for joining us on healthy

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Speaker 1: Is today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me, And well done.

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Speaker 1: On your new book. How does it feel it's out

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Speaker 1: there in the world now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's It feels like I thought I would be relieved, Like, wow,

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Speaker 2: I can I don't have to stay up till midnight

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Speaker 2: riot I think and deal with the stress of writing

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Speaker 2: a book. Yeah, but I'm kind of a bit nervous now.

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Speaker 2: I'm a bit apprehensive about how it's going to go.

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Speaker 2: Like I've put myself in the public sphere, so that's

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Speaker 2: new to me, so it makes me a bit nervous.

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Speaker 2: But we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I like that you said that it's stressed for writing

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Speaker 1: a book, yet you've probably been in some of the

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Speaker 1: most stressful situations that any human could possibly be in.

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Speaker 1: Talk to us about this whole concept of the paramedic mindset.

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Speaker 2: What is it? Yeah, So the paramedic mindset is basically

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Speaker 2: I like to use the word poise, So it's about

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Speaker 2: when we're faced with stress, how can we make really

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Speaker 2: good decisions in that face of that stress, so we

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Speaker 2: don't get that tunnel vision because we like the research

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Speaker 2: shows the most thing that stress does to all of

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Speaker 2: us is make us really poor decision makers. So it's

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Speaker 2: about clearing your mind to make good decisions. And I

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Speaker 2: just use the paramedic as the example on how to

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Speaker 2: manipulate our biology to make good decisions and prepare for

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Speaker 2: stress and then turning stress. Instead of looking at stress

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Speaker 2: as stress, we can change it and look at it

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Speaker 2: as arousal. So when you look at it as arousal.

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Speaker 2: We start to relate that to performance, so you can

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Speaker 2: see stress is a good thing. It's a thing that

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Speaker 2: actually enhances our performance and makes our lives better. It

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Speaker 2: just becomes when stress becomes overwhelming and there's a point

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Speaker 2: where we drop off that cliff. So it's about trying

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Speaker 2: to avoid that. So I use the paramedic mindset as

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Speaker 2: usually this word poison. I define that as this self

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Speaker 2: assurance and composure under pressure. So I always imagine it's

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Speaker 2: like you're walking through a tornado. There's cows flying, cars flying,

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Speaker 2: and you're just walking there composed, solid, shoulders back, and

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Speaker 2: you're able to deal with that situation despite all that

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Speaker 2: chaos around.

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Speaker 1: That's a good summary. Well, I mean I think it's

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Speaker 1: all good. And while being a paramedic've you spent years

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Speaker 1: perfecting this or perhaps you know, trying to at least

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Speaker 1: how can the everyday person adapt this mindset?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So, like I said before, I'm just using the

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Speaker 2: paramedic as the example. So the science and the research

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Speaker 2: that I include in the book is all about how

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Speaker 2: humans react to stress. So every human if you go,

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Speaker 2: like for me, going up and doing public speaking events,

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Speaker 2: which I have to do now for the book, and

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Speaker 2: I get very stressed for public speaking, So I use

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Speaker 2: the exact same tools stuff that manipulate my stress to

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Speaker 2: perform when I public speak, that I learned as a paramedic.

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Speaker 2: It's just that paramedics are put under stress every day,

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Speaker 2: and you know, the decision making in that moment is

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Speaker 2: can be life threatening. Notes it's do or die. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: it's not always, but it does happen.

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Speaker 1: So can you give us some tools that can help

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Speaker 1: us well stay calm under pressure and build our poise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I call them psychological skills. And probably the

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Speaker 2: best one and easiest one to remember or for me anyway,

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Speaker 2: is this acronym called beat the stressful. If you remember

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Speaker 2: mister T from the A Team, I do imagine him

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Speaker 2: and it. Yeah, so it's like beat the stressful. So

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Speaker 2: B is for breathing. So there's a few breathing techniques.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Human made the physiological size sighing, so that's two

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Speaker 2: inhales and one exhale. He made that quite popular recently.

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Speaker 2: There's also box breathing, which is where you breathe in

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Speaker 2: like you inhale for four seconds, you hold your breath

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Speaker 2: hold your breath for another four seconds, so it's like

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Speaker 2: a box YEP. And then TEA is for talk, so

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Speaker 2: that's positive self talk, so you're just having little phrases

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Speaker 2: internal dialogue. And another way you can do that is

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Speaker 2: to talk to yourself in refer to yourself in second person,

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Speaker 2: so you say your name, so it's like Lee, I

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Speaker 2: can do this, or Lee you can do this, Lee,

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Speaker 2: you are good, You've done this before those little phrases.

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Speaker 2: That's a bit of positive self talk. And then S

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Speaker 2: is for C so visualization, so it's about closing your

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Speaker 2: eyes and visualizing doing or performing the task before you

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Speaker 2: And the other one is focus, so you use little

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Speaker 2: focus words. I like to in Q words, So you

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Speaker 2: come up with a word before you do something simply

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Speaker 2: as like for a paramedic, it might be smooth, So

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Speaker 2: before you perform a surgical intervention or something, you say smooth,

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Speaker 2: or you say the word focus itself. So you come

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Speaker 2: up with these little Q words, and there's single words

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Speaker 2: that snap you out of that tunnel vision. So beat

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Speaker 2: the stressful.

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Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. So when you come

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Speaker 1: upon a situation, you know, which could be life and death,

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Speaker 1: is this what's going on your head? The self talk,

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Speaker 1: the breathing. I mean when you're in the ambulance and

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Speaker 1: you're on your way, I mean, how does that work

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Speaker 1: in your mind?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, there's like a lot of preparation goes in

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Speaker 2: before you put yourself in that situation. We call it

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Speaker 2: stress and oculation. So it's training and education and that

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Speaker 2: sort of thing about mastering your skills. But yeah, essentially,

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Speaker 2: when you're in those pressure moments before you do something,

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Speaker 2: I'll be like, as I'll walk into a scene, I'll

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Speaker 2: be breathing before I perform a task. I'll say a

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Speaker 2: single word or a cognitive pause is another one where

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Speaker 2: you just physically step back and move your body. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you look at the horizon and stand there for

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Speaker 2: thirty seconds, remove yourself from the situation before you make

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Speaker 2: a decision. Yeah, I'll actively do those things. And you

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Speaker 2: can do those things without anyone noticing around you. And

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Speaker 2: that's the beauty of these little tools and skills is

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Speaker 2: that you can perform it next to someone and they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you make it sound very simple and very easy

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Speaker 1: to stay calm when under pressure. It was I found

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Speaker 1: that you talk you write about in your book about

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Speaker 1: an experiment that you conducted with your podcast, and the

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Speaker 1: finding was around maintaining poise under pressure. It was more

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Speaker 1: about individual's well being than their experience or preparedness when

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Speaker 1: it came to a stressful situation. Can you tell us

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Speaker 2: This, Yeah, it was quite fascinating that people prioritize their

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Speaker 2: own well being and they stated that that is a

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Speaker 2: having a what we'd like to call flourishing. So flourishing

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Speaker 2: in life is a key performance indicator of being able

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Speaker 2: to deal with stressful situations when they come up. So

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Speaker 2: if you walked in like it's you know, it sounds

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Speaker 2: pretty if you put it this way, it's pretty simple.

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Speaker 2: It's like if you're feeling depressed and anxious and then

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Speaker 2: someone throws something at you, it makes you really stressful.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to perform very well. Whether if you

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Speaker 2: walk into it and you're feeling like you're functioning in life.

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Speaker 2: You can deal with obstacles and hurdles that you come

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Speaker 2: across to achieve that is, through achieving well being and

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Speaker 2: probably the biggest thing that sets people up in that

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Speaker 2: was that they do it in service of others. So

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Speaker 2: it's helping others gives them that resilience in that well being,

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Speaker 2: which I thought was really interesting that it's not about

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Speaker 2: trying to do something for your individual it's about helping

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Speaker 2: other people and that's what gives you resilience.

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Speaker 1: Is that why you're a paramedic? What was your desire

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Speaker 1: to become a paramedic?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well a part of it, for sure is

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Speaker 2: that desire to help others. But it's also so I

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Speaker 2: was injured and quite sick when I was around fifteen sixteen,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, I had the ambulance come out to me,

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Speaker 2: and I know, they were amazing, and I just looked

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Speaker 2: for me and how they treated me was incredible. And

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Speaker 2: then at the time, it used to be like a

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Speaker 2: diploma program where you had to apply and you had

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Speaker 2: to have like a lot of life experience before they

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Speaker 2: would accept you. Yeah, but then the tertiary and universities

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Speaker 2: at university level. And as soon as I saw that,

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Speaker 2: it just it was a calling. I'm enrolled in that

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Speaker 1: Oh you're an undervalued occupation. Lee, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us on Healthy.

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Speaker 2: Is Not a problem. Thank you for having me well.

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Speaker 1: If you do want more tales from the front line,

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Speaker 1: make sure you grab Lee's new book. It is called

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Speaker 1: The Paramedic Mindset it is. It's really good. Actually, it's

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Speaker 1: got a lot of wisdom in there about how to

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