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Speaker 1: This is the moment man that we've all been waiting

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Speaker 1: for for in a romax.

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Speaker 2: Here comes Oscar Piastree, Lando Norrith.

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Speaker 1: Steve peberchall Moment to twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Pit Talk, brought to you by Shannon's.

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Speaker 4: On today's episode, we're in Australian Grand Prix week and

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Speaker 4: McLaren is tipped to be favorite at the start of

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Speaker 4: this new season. And for our first episode of the season,

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Speaker 4: we're joined by former has F one team principal Guntha

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Speaker 4: Steiner to get his take on the season to come

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Speaker 4: and his new book, Unfiltered. My name is Michael Lomonato,

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Speaker 4: motorsport writer at Fox Sports Australia. It's great to have

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Speaker 4: your company and the company of my co host. His

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Speaker 4: name's Matt Clayton. You can call the team Racing Bulls

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Speaker 4: if you like, but he's femous always Minadi.

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Speaker 2: Michael.

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Speaker 3: Great to join you for another season, very very much,

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Speaker 3: looking forward to get stuck into the Australian Grand Prier.

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Speaker 3: What five days away?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? The clock is really to you. It feels like

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Speaker 2: it keeps up on us every year.

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Speaker 4: It is going to be a big first round, not

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Speaker 4: only because it's back in Australia, where personally I've always

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Speaker 4: felt it should be. Sometimes I disregard the first two

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Speaker 4: rounds in Barrai and Saudi Arabia. The time zone is

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Speaker 4: terrible anyway. But we are back in Australia for the

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Speaker 4: very first round of the season, and for the first

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Speaker 4: time in a long time, it feels like I've got

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Speaker 4: a genuine chance of breaking that streak of no Australians

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Speaker 4: on the podium at Australian Grandfrey. Potentially even a first winner,

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Speaker 4: an Australian winner at the Stralian Grandbery. Because MacLaren after Prieza,

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Speaker 4: isn't testing looked really competitive?

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Speaker 2: That seems to be the vibe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think so they've got momentum from last year.

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Speaker 3: I think that's probably a key thing and I think

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Speaker 3: an underrated part in this season of so much change elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: They're one of only two teams with an unchanged driver lineup.

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Speaker 3: I think when you've got stability there and continuity results.

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Speaker 3: You look at what they did in preseason testing. They

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Speaker 3: weren't hogging lap times or really headlining things, but you

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Speaker 3: could see the inherent pace was there, The long run

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Speaker 3: I think if we're looking at a favorite going into Melbourne,

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Speaker 3: What happens behind them not.

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Speaker 4: So sure it just before we look at some of

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Speaker 4: front running pack, and at least Lewis Hamilton at Ferrari,

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Speaker 4: we've got a teenager at Mercedes and or Red Bull Racing,

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Speaker 2: After absolutely dominating the sport.

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Speaker 4: But McLaren as a championship contender is really interesting because

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Speaker 4: it's almost easy to forget that they won the Constructor's

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Speaker 2: They came from nowhere two years earlier.

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Speaker 3: and then you've got Piastric who's coming through this side

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Speaker 4: He was talking about how much McLaren had to do

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Speaker 4: understand those pressures, you can have all the processes you like.

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Speaker 4: McLaren has these Papy rules. I hope a phrase we

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Speaker 2: They've got a big marketing department. They can do better.

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Speaker 4: That's what's going to be interesting is how they handle

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Speaker 4: Okay, a team that maybe traditionally hasn't posed the greatest

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Speaker 2: Story of the year regardless of what happens.

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Speaker 4: How do you think this relationship is going to start,

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Speaker 3: these things you mentioned. Ferrari improving strategically, it's from a

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Speaker 3: It's incredible to think this time last year Red Bull

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Speaker 3: We came here last year thinking will anyone beat this

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Speaker 4: You're listening to this podcast, you're watching you know Gundesteiner is.

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Speaker 4: It's called Unfiltered. In fact, he's taking it on a

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Speaker 5: zachd Actually you know what is it?

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Speaker 2: Then?

437
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Speaker 5: Our rules?

438
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what it was of Yes, yeah, Like.

439
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Speaker 4: I want to attack a little bit because the other

440
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Speaker 4: really big story of this year is of course going

441
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Speaker 4: to be Lewis Hamilton, where he has joined Ferrari now

442
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Speaker 4: and there's been a lot made about the transition he's

443
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Speaker 4: going to have to undergo to become a Ferrari driver

444
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Speaker 4: after so many years at Mercedes and maybe more to

445
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Speaker 4: the point, so many years with British teams, and you've

446
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Speaker 4: known Ferrari quite well through the partnership it had with Hears.

447
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Speaker 4: How do you think that's going to go And do

448
00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,480
Speaker 4: you think that I suppose culture with element is a

449
00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,240
Speaker 4: little bit overplayed when we're talking about Lewis Hamilton adjusting

450
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Speaker 4: to life in Marinello.

451
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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

452
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Speaker 5: I think you have to just because Ferrari were not

453
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Speaker 5: adjust to you. You know, Ferrari had a lot of

454
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Speaker 5: big drivers and the team culture never changed. I would say,

455
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Speaker 5: But I think Louis is smart enough to know that,

456
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Speaker 5: and he will try to adjust to the culture. Obviously

457
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,560
Speaker 5: not always the easiest thing to do, especially if you

458
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Speaker 5: think that Charles let Clerk speaks fluent Italian is there

459
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,040
Speaker 5: a long time, grew up in that environment, so he

460
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Speaker 5: needs to put some work in. But you know, Louis

461
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,159
Speaker 5: knows that and he just needs to work at it.

462
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Speaker 5: But I'm sure he's not going to try to change

463
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Speaker 5: the culture there to his what he's used to, because

464
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Speaker 5: that's not going to happen.

465
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Speaker 4: You've been in not just Formula one for all, We've

466
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Speaker 4: got a big motor sports background, obviously having started in rallying.

467
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Speaker 4: The story with Lewis and Ferrari is a seven time champion,

468
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Speaker 4: mading the most successful team in Formula One history. If

469
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Speaker 4: you were to win the title this year or in

470
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Speaker 4: the next couple of years with Ferrari, where do you

471
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Speaker 4: think that would rank in terms of more the sport significance?

472
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Speaker 1: Very high?

473
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Speaker 5: I mean going in there coming from a seven time

474
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Speaker 5: world champion, and then if he wins at winning eight

475
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Speaker 5: world championships, which is a record nobody else has done that,

476
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Speaker 5: I think that would go into history.

477
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Speaker 1: But also Ferrari hasn't won a World.

478
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Speaker 5: Championship as a team in a long time, so just

479
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Speaker 5: winning it again in the Ferrari and in Italy would

480
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Speaker 5: put him at a complete different level.

481
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Speaker 4: Now I want to get you to put you I

482
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Speaker 4: suppose a man manager had on for one of a

483
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Speaker 4: better phrase. It is an element of being a team principal.

484
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Speaker 4: How do you think Charlotteclair, who was previously for our

485
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Speaker 4: his golden child. You know, the future of the team

486
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Speaker 4: will be handling being really so comprehensively overshadowed by Lewis

487
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,880
Speaker 4: Hamilton's arrival. And we've already talked quite a lot about Lewis.

488
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 4: Everyone's talking about Lewis. No one's talking about the guy

489
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Speaker 4: that finished last year. Really strongly. What would you have

490
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Speaker 4: to do to make sure he's not feeling like he's

491
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Speaker 4: left out of the situation.

492
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Speaker 5: No, I think Charles that he's the long future for

493
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Speaker 5: Ferrari because he's so much young, or he has got

494
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Speaker 5: a long future there. And I think for Charles an

495
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Speaker 5: opportunity because being in a team with a seven time

496
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Speaker 5: world champions always good. You can learn something from him,

497
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 5: because winning a championship is not only being fast in

498
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Speaker 5: a rasca, is also being smart and doing a very

499
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Speaker 5: good job in a long race. So I think Charles

500
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Speaker 5: will take it, you know. I try to learn as

501
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Speaker 5: much as possible for the time Louis is there a

502
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Speaker 5: short term. Obviously, Louis took over the headlines, but Louis

503
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Speaker 5: hasn't won anything for Ferrari yet, while Charles has won

504
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 5: races for them, So I don't think he's downbeat about it.

505
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Speaker 5: I mean, he knows that Louis is a big name,

506
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Speaker 5: won seven championships and that the headlight is on him now.

507
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Speaker 5: But if Child then beats him, for example, that's even

508
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 5: better for Charles. So I think he just will take

509
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Speaker 5: a little bit of time and then he can show

510
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Speaker 5: what he can do. But I don't think it bumps

511
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Speaker 5: him out now.

512
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Speaker 3: It's a fascinating story that one, no matter which of

513
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Speaker 3: those two extremes applies out. As you said, But let's

514
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Speaker 3: switch to we're talking about Australian drivers before let's talk

515
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Speaker 3: about the one who's not on the grid this year.

516
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Speaker 3: With Daniel Ricardo being out of the sport for good

517
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Speaker 3: this time, you would think, and I wanted to ask you, like,

518
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Speaker 3: what's the adjustment like from being right in the thick

519
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Speaker 3: of f one like you were and like Daniel was,

520
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Speaker 3: to being an outsider? And I'm using air quotes here.

521
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Speaker 3: You know you're not in the cut and thrust of

522
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Speaker 3: the day to day. How is it for you? Because

523
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Speaker 3: we talked about you being busy, but it's a different

524
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Speaker 3: sort of busy and a different sort of pressure.

525
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Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, No, I.

526
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Speaker 1: Adopted very good. I like what I'm doing.

527
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Speaker 5: You know, as you said, I went out from one

528
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Speaker 5: seat into the next seat, so I had no time

529
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Speaker 5: in between to even think about it. It was it

530
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,719
Speaker 5: wasn't my plan to do this what they did last year.

531
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Speaker 5: All the work I did so, but I enjoying it.

532
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 5: Otherwise I wouldn't do it. And it keeps the formula on.

533
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 5: But everybody's different than Danny after he left last year.

534
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Speaker 5: I don't think he came place yet. I don't know

535
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Speaker 5: if he's coming to Melbourne or not to the race,

536
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 5: but it's different and if he wants to take some

537
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Speaker 5: time off, because that was my initiative plan to take

538
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 5: some time off just to do a little bit of

539
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Speaker 5: what I wanted to do. And then people ask me

540
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Speaker 5: to do things and I did them and I enjoy them.

541
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Speaker 5: But you know, as you say, it's a different pressure.

542
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 5: Obviously it's not the high pressure like when you have

543
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Speaker 5: to when you go out qualifying or racing, but it's

544
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Speaker 5: still it's still a pressure. But it's good to be

545
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Speaker 5: around in the puddle. Can just not have to go

546
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Speaker 5: to all the races. You can go where you want

547
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Speaker 5: to go. You can decide yourself.

548
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Speaker 2: Of course.

549
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Speaker 3: The other thing for you now is you don't get

550
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Speaker 3: that competitive time every one or two weeks depending on

551
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Speaker 3: the calendar. You don't get that competitive each to scratch. Now,

552
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 3: so how have you replaced that adrenaline side, because obviously

553
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Speaker 3: you know everything's so busy as a team principle, there

554
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Speaker 3: is a race every week or two weeks throughout the

555
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Speaker 3: season where you get to see where you stack up.

556
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Speaker 3: So how do you personally scratch that competitive each now that.

557
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Speaker 5: You're not involved on the inside, I'm pretty fine with

558
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 5: the you know, not having that a bread alain and no,

559
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 5: it's nice. The biggest thing is on a race weekend

560
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Speaker 5: when the cast we out for qualifying. That's the only

561
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Speaker 5: a few minutes you think are that would be cool.

562
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Speaker 5: But then it's just like you watch what other people

563
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Speaker 5: are doing. It's nice to be the spectator sometimes.

564
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 4: Well you've spent is an element you touched on your

565
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Speaker 4: book as well that I sort of thought was interesting.

566
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 4: The first couple of chapters the latest book, of course, Unfiltered,

567
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 4: talking about setting up the Hearts team, which was more

568
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 4: than a decade ago. Now you're doing that preparatory work,

569
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Speaker 4: and you were talking about how different Formula one was

570
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Speaker 4: then compared to now you've seen it in its current

571
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 4: super popular era where everyone wants to talk about Formula one,

572
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 4: races are selling out regularly, all that kind of thing.

573
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Speaker 4: But also it's decidedly less culturally relevant, very much less

574
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Speaker 4: popular era a decade or so ago. I'm interested in

575
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Speaker 4: your perception of how that's evolved from inside the sport.

576
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 4: Obviously you were there for that full decade. And also

577
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Speaker 4: how important the likes of big characters are to the sport.

578
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 4: We're talking about Daniel, he was obviously one of them.

579
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 4: You obviously made a massive name for yourself as someone

580
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 4: who transcends the sport to a little bitter fright. It's

581
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 4: how important is it. I have those characters been to

582
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Speaker 4: formud on becoming the sport we know today.

583
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 5: I think they were an element in it, But I

584
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 5: think the biggest thing was that the sport was brought

585
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 5: to more people, obviously to drive to survive in the pandemic.

586
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 5: When Formula one was the first sport again going live again,

587
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 5: people was watching it. So as you said, the Formula

588
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 5: one has changed quite a bit from ten to fifteen

589
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 5: years ago to what it is now. But internally it's

590
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Speaker 5: just I think it made it better. It's better organized,

591
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 5: better structures. The team are normally financially a lot better

592
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 5: off now than they were ten years ago than years ago.

593
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 5: Very few race teams made money now. I think if

594
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Speaker 5: they're not profitable, they break even most of them. And

595
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Speaker 5: what that does it gives secure to the people which

596
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 5: worked out that the we'd have a job in the

597
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 5: foreseable future, which is always good if people have got security,

598
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 5: job security. So it has changed, but it was a

599
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 5: lot of elements coming together or to make it what

600
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 5: it is.

601
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Speaker 3: Now, and it's amazing what it has become. I mean,

602
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Speaker 3: I think if we've spoken to you eight years ago,

603
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: you wouldn't have been thinking, oh, I've written two books

604
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 3: by now and you've got this life that you have

605
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 3: these days. But I did want to ask you about

606
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: that because you may remember going to last year, we

607
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 3: were doing something at the Australian Grand Prix for one

608
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 3: of the corporates and you were just being hounded by

609
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 3: everybody so much before we started that, I actually found

610
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: you hiding in a bathroom. So that was something that

611
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 3: you probably wouldn't imagine would have been life about eight

612
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 3: or ten years ago. But do you ever look at

613
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 3: this sometimes? And I know you don't watch Striveters of

614
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: ib that's one of your things that you've always said.

615
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 3: But you never could have believed that life would have

616
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: turned out like this with the way things have gone

617
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 3: over the past ten years. Could you No?

618
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Speaker 5: No, absolutely, And I think nobody could blunt something like this.

619
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Speaker 5: This is things just happening. You know, you're just a

620
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 5: passenger on these things, you know, so uh, and they

621
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 5: come along and that, as you said, I would have

622
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 5: never fail to write one book never mind, do you know?

623
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 5: So I deem selling them, but maybe writing them, but

624
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 5: not selling them. You know, anybody wanted to read them?

625
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 2: You know.

626
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: So No, it's it's it's very as you said, it

627
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: came out by surprise, you know.

628
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 4: I want to ask, and I know you've been getting

629
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: a lot of questions about this. Can't imagine why, but

630
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 4: I fi is contemplating a swearing band in formula one. Now,

631
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 4: I was reading your book and I was interested to

632
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 4: hear that you already live under a bit of a

633
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 4: swearing band at home.

634
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 2: I can't imagine how that looks out for you.

635
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: So is there is there a home gunter and at

636
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: work gunter, and ironically the one at work is swearing more.

637
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: How's that happening?

638
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 5: Absolutely? Absolutely that is happening, you know. So yeah, no,

639
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 5: But but I think what you see there, it's under

640
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 5: when it's under pressure, you know, in just emotions get

641
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 5: get told of you you and and you do things

642
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 5: which you normally don't do.

643
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: But no, no, it's too different ones. You're absolutely right

644
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: with that one.

645
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 2: Do you think they're gonna be alple to pull off

646
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: this swearing band this year?

647
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: I mean they bullet off and then who wants to

648
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: spend these amounts of money? You know, just bye bye?

649
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 5: But you know it's I hope it doesn't take out,

650
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 5: you know, if the emotions what the driver have got,

651
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 5: you know, and controlling too much because it's a it's

652
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 5: it's it's I mean, is it good if somebody swears no?

653
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 5: But this is this bad as as it is made

654
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Speaker 5: out of the be no as well in my opinion.

655
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Speaker 5: You know, it's a sport lists from emotions. People want

656
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Speaker 5: to see emotions, want to see characters and you know,

657
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 5: if if there is no there's no emotions in it,

658
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 5: you know we can have machines going around the acetrack.

659
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 2: Certainly we don't want that. Good there.

660
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Speaker 4: It's been a pleasure if anyone wants to catch you.

661
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Speaker 4: There's still tickets left to Unfiltered live and the show's

662
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Speaker 4: coming up or in Newcastle, Melbourne, the Gold Coast and Brisbane.

663
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Speaker 4: Of course, you can buy the book Unfiltered from all

664
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Speaker 4: good retailers. One question before you go. You mentioned when

665
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Speaker 4: you got that famous call from Gen you were buying

666
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 4: some ham?

667
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: What was the ham? And did you buy it in

668
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: the end or did you go home empty handed?

669
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Speaker 4: No?

670
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Speaker 1: I bought some and I.

671
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: Thank you God. Enjoy your trip down to Australia and

672
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Speaker 2: we'll talk it too.

673
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: Thank you guys.

674
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 4: That was former Haas F one team Bosklin the Stegner

675
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 4: of course, and again it's unfiltered Live is his book.

676
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: Tour speaking to her.

677
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 4: It's hard to believe only a few years ago he'd

678
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 4: said that that's what he's up to these days. It's Newcastle, Melbourne,

679
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 4: Gold Coast and Brisbane. You can still get some tickets.

680
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 4: There are only a few available, so if you want

681
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Speaker 4: to go and see them, I would advise you get

682
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Speaker 4: online and get those tickets now. But now let's change

683
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 4: things up a little bit. So I'm interested in playing

684
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Speaker 4: a new games, new season.

685
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: The podcast what have you got for me? Interested versus

686
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: expert is what I'm going to call it. Okay, Now, look,

687
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: we both know a lot about motorsport.

688
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 4: F one obviously is the main situation here on Pittalk,

689
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 4: but we do like our supercars and Moto GPE. But

690
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 4: maybe the game here is to guess who's interested in

691
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 4: who's the expert? I think the experts probably going to

692
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 4: be answering questions at this point, right, it's to do

693
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 4: it the other way around.

694
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: It's probably a little bit well given, given.

695
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: I'm interested rather than the experts. Shall we start off

696
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 3: with some supercars?

697
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: Perhaps? Okay?

698
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: And we what we're one round into the season. We

699
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: already have a driver change.

700
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 4: Ye, silly season never stops, does it, regardless of what

701
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 4: sport you're involved in. And Darren Love has left the

702
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 4: Blanchard Races and according to them, on his terms, he's

703
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 4: decided to leave after one round and three races. He's

704
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 4: been replaced by Aaron Cameron. This has been building up

705
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 4: for a little while. His debut season last season is

706
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 4: this is almost the theme of the podcast. Very quick,

707
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 4: but sometimes hits start right, Yeah, may be the bottom

708
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Speaker 4: of the show.

709
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: Got to hit some things before the show's finished. Unfortunately.

710
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 4: The last thing you hit was his teammate James Cortney

711
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 4: in warm up for qualifying. I remember this in Sydney

712
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 4: for round one, of course, at Sydney Motorsport Park. Both

713
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 4: warming up for qualifying, James Corney tends to go around

714
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 4: in he's doing the weaving your ties thing and they

715
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 4: make contact and.

716
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: That's not great.

717
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 4: It's not a great situation to be and this is

718
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 4: off the back again of a season last year where

719
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 4: he showed a lot of speed promise. I mean, that's

720
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 4: sort of been the even his junior career leading up

721
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 4: with the supercars suggested there was this great speed, just

722
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 4: couldn't really convert that to that kind of consistency, and

723
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 4: the team's decided, particularly after that incident, he's had enough.

724
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 2: It's a bit unfair on him as well.

725
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 4: It felt like this season got to the wrong foot

726
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 4: in testing out of brake failure and crashed and hit

727
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 4: something and that wasn't his fault, but sometimes things just

728
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 4: don't go your way, and he is one of those

729
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 4: things that hasn't gone his way. If you think from

730
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 4: the team's perspective. The positive element here, I guess is

731
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 4: that you know James Cortney's retiring at end of the year,

732
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 4: and this means at least if you get someone in

733
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Speaker 4: the car, in this case Aaron Cameron, you're not going

734
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 4: into next season with an all new driver line up,

735
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 4: correct and that's usually really quite important for a motorsport team.

736
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: Particularly one like bart which is trying to move up

737
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 4: the grid. You want a little bit of consistency in

738
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 4: the engineering through the drivers. So Aaron Cameron, we know

739
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 4: his quick carting champions five thousand, multiple champion Super two

740
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 4: race winner and runner up in Super two as well,

741
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 4: and was co driving last year with Aaron Lavid Battiston Sandown.

742
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 4: So he knows the team, he knows the sport deserves

743
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 4: to be there, He's got the background to prove that

744
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 4: deserves to be there. So and astute change. But after

745
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 4: one round you do. It is a little bit rough,

746
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 4: isn't it. I guess you might be looking at Alward

747
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 4: Park and going, boy, the barriers are pretty close.

748
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: They are a little bit no truth to the room,

749
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: and you're going to change your name to Aaron just

750
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: to be the next guy on the list there.

751
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, if this doesn't work out, way

752
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: that I could drive, I could dry. I drive pretty quick.

753
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: So I've heard let's go back to Sydney. First round.

754
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: Just absolutely dominated by cam waders, three poles, three wins,

755
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: three faster slaps, three very different races in that one

756
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: in the wet drive one, A close race, absolutely dominated.

757
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 3: A race is this like he's been this nearly meant

758
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 3: he's been what top six in the championship I think

759
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: five straight years, or maybe it's top five and six

760
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: years I forget, but he's been right up there for

761
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 3: so so long. So is this the year that he

762
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: can turn that into something bigger?

763
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 5: Isn't?

764
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 4: It definitely feels promising because like you said, it's the

765
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 4: three different races element. I know we talk a lot

766
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 4: about this was one round and it was only one circuit.

767
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 4: It would be the most ex extreme tire circuit we

768
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 4: have on the Supercars calendar. It's a very particular track

769
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 4: if you compared to others. Albert Park's also another very

770
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 4: particular track. But yeah, like you say, in the cold,

771
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 4: in the hot, in the day, in the nighttime, challenged

772
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 4: by Triple eight, not challenged by Triple A. Different strategies

773
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 4: as well, particularly in that night race when it was

774
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 4: closed a bit were dry in that last one to

775
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 4: exactly nothing phaced him or the tick for Team A.

776
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 4: Team We've got to remember on a couple of years

777
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 4: ago decided they've got to reduce back down to two cars.

778
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 4: They could focus more thing the most out of the

779
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 4: package they had.

780
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: This was I know, it's like it is only one round.

781
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 4: And everyone's like, wow, one round. All those caveats were

782
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 4: just mentioned, but it was it was absolute.

783
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: That was the word use. It was absolute domination, maximum points.

784
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 4: I think what's really interesting for me, And there's the

785
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 4: context here of in Gen three, you know, Fords felt

786
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 4: a little bit down and out and Chevrolet seemed had.

787
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: Things all their own way, was it Ford did really

788
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: well this weekend as well. Actually backs it up.

789
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 4: A little bit, Triple eight was really the only GM

790
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 4: representative the top five, certainly in the top ten generally

791
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 4: all weekend.

792
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: And also that means if you're a General.

793
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 4: Motors fan or Triple eight's switching next year and makes

794
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 4: you a little bit worried. But for example, the top

795
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 4: five qualifying results over the course of the three races

796
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 4: was ten five to Forward. Likewise, in the extended race results,

797
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 4: ten top five finishes to Ford over the course of

798
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 4: the weekend to just five for General Motors. General motors

799
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 4: are still overrepresented on the grid as well, so this

800
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 4: is punching way above Ford's weight in this regard. And

801
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 4: what I really think is interesting to talk about that

802
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 4: we take Triple eight out of the equation. Water's average

803
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 4: pole margin over the course of the weekend was more

804
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 4: than six tenths of a second over the next year team.

805
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 2: It's huge and so.

806
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 4: It really relies on I mean, Triple eight at the

807
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 4: moment seems like the only competitor we can talk about

808
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 4: walking through and Dreda united with sort of thereabouts and

809
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 4: they are fourteenth. So on the base of one round

810
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,439
Speaker 4: you said, well, maybe the ceilings are a little bit higher.

811
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: We don't know. We've got to see a few more tracks.

812
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 4: But I mean, if you're a cam Orders fan, I

813
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 4: don't want to say you've been long suffering, but you

814
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 4: know he's been close several times and hasn't managed to

815
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 4: get it done. You must be feeling you must be

816
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 4: allowing yourself to feel pretty good.

817
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 3: Last one of my interested but not expert list image

818
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: in Triple eight before we're going to a race track

819
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: where they were particularly good last year, three wins of

820
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: the four between their two drivers. Is this what they

821
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: need right now to perhaps get on par with Ford,

822
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: as you were saying, or is last year's result a

823
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: little bit irrelevant based on what we saw in Sydney.

824
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 4: It's sort of it's a little bit hard to say

825
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 4: because the Australian Grand pre format is so random really

826
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 4: in the context anymore sport really, even the Supercars four

827
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 4: races grouped in a funny way, and you don't get

828
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 4: a lot of set up time, which could be the

829
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 4: really important element. It's all got to be done on

830
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 4: Thursday pretty much, and then you're guessing between live sessions.

831
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: It's really quite fast paced despite being a four.

832
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 4: Day man and no pit stops exactly, a completely different

833
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 4: format of racing, going to have different weather, all that

834
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 4: kind of stuff, super far fastest track on the calendar,

835
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff.

836
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: But Triple eight is that team that should be there

837
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: pretty much everywhere.

838
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 4: They, like you said, did so well last year, also

839
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 4: missed out on the perfect podium run by in only

840
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 4: one race, seven podiums from eight at Temps essentially last year.

841
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 4: Team manager Mark doesn't use the word must. I think

842
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 4: must bounce back at the Australian Grand Prix. Obviously not

843
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 4: from a points perspective because the season is long, but

844
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 4: it is just that kind of dire picture that's been

845
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 4: painted otherwise that if if what has wins all four races,

846
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 4: we're probably going to be having really quite a different,

847
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 4: like another different conversation after this about well, this has

848
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 4: all gone fairly in one direction, so it's going to

849
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 4: be a really fascinating week here you want to talk.

850
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: About Moto GP.

851
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 3: Are we switching hats here? I'm highly interested, You're highly interested.

852
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 3: I'm hit a help, Michael, when's Mark market is going

853
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: to win the title this year? Because remarkable?

854
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: Has he not already won it?

855
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I think this was the This was the fear.

856
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: I guess you use fear in inverted kormas you put

857
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 3: the best rider on the best bike, and expecting other outcomes,

858
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: particularly early in the season is probably wishful thinking. I

859
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 3: think there is a little caveat with what he did

860
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: in Thailand. They had tested there for two days previously

861
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 3: a fortnight earlier, and he was unbelievably strong, Like waited

862
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: until the fifteen minutes of the second day and said

863
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: how about this for a qualifying lap there?

864
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: And everyone went, oh boy.

865
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 3: So what he did in Beru Aram was not a

866
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: massive surprise. So is he the world championship favorite fantastic bike?

867
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 3: We know how good Mark is and he's in this

868
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: sort of last part of his career. Now he's the

869
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: second oldest rider in Motor GP. It's one of those

870
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 3: things that snuck up on this a little bit because

871
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: he still looks like he's twenty three thirty two now,

872
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: and the way he won in burram I. Look at

873
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 3: the Grand Prix where he cleared off at the front

874
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 3: and then realized, oh, my tire pressures are a bit low,

875
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 3: I might just pull the handbrake on. Relatively speaking, he

876
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: had sit behind my brother on the same bike until

877
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: I've done the minimum sixty percent race distance with the

878
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: tire pressure and then just breeze past him and gap

879
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 3: him by one point three seconds in one lap. It

880
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 3: was just an absolute demonstration of the margin that he

881
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: had now good at this track. He's won there several

882
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: times before, a lot of data from preseason testing. There

883
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 3: are some variables coming up, but it's hard to see

884
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: how he not the strongest of those decadies, at least

885
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 3: for this first part of the season. But I think

886
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 3: the biggest challenge is still with his son Garage.

887
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 4: Well, so this is the question, right because and you

888
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 4: mentioned there's the three next couple of races feel like

889
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 4: when the Marquez universe, right, I mean, so we've got

890
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 4: Argentina this weekend saying we've got a lot of notice

891
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 4: about this weekend. Let's try You're going to need to

892
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 4: use your recording devices and so on, and then codat.

893
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 2: The secret of the Americans.

894
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 4: Is there any point even if you Peco Vanyay are

895
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 4: turning up to these races or is it all really

896
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 4: about looking at not this cutout after that and then

897
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 4: the return to Europe for if anyone's going to challenge you.

898
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 3: I think Banyaya could not have had a worse weekend

899
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: in terms of just you know, banana skins that he

900
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: tripped over pretty much in Thailand because he had a

901
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 3: difficult preseason test, didn't get a race simulation in got

902
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 3: to Thailand, had to go through a Q one because

903
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: it was an erroneous yellow flag in that last practice session.

904
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: He then got borked by Franco Marberdeli, which got Morbidelli

905
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: a group penalty, had to fight his way through a

906
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: Q one. He was constantly fighting with an arm behind

907
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 3: his back all weekend. Never really looked like he was

908
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: going to challenge for a win, but more or less

909
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: had their measure of what was behind. And Picko is

910
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 3: one of these guys that he can't just jump on

911
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: and be volcanic fast like Mark Camp. He's one of

912
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: these guys. He's a slow build, slow burn and when

913
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: he can run a weekend on those terms, we saw

914
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: it last year he won eleven of twenty Grand Prix,

915
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 3: but it wasn't so much what he did on Sunday,

916
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: it was what he was doing on Friday. He's this methodical,

917
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 3: slow burn rider that when he gets everything right, he

918
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: was pretty much unbeatable last year on a Sunday. So

919
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 3: I can't imagine a more problematic build up than he

920
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 3: had in Thailand. I think the races coming forward should

921
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 3: be smoother than this. We'll see the gap reduce. Whether

922
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: it reduces to a point where we can flip them,

923
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think it's going to be

924
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 3: far more competitive once we get to Argentina.

925
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: It's still incredible to me he won eleven Grand Prix

926
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: last and win well, yeah, it was a championship being lost,

927
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: wasn't it. Yeah? Wow, yes, yes, but ridiculous really. And

928
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: we've got to talk about Jack Miller.

929
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 4: You know, maybe six eight months ago we were thinking

930
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 4: maybe he wasn't going to be in with the ride,

931
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 4: and he dropped up with Pramac now in the stable

932
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 4: and did well, extremely well, very impressive debut to him,

933
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 4: and suddenly it looks like a new lease on life

934
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 4: for him.

935
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: Fastest ever lapped by a Yamaha of Burram in six

936
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: visits by Motor GP. There he'd ridden the bike for

937
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: two tests. So I think this is consistent with what

938
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 3: Jack does, though, because you look at where he's been previously.

939
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: When he was at Pramac Deucati, he was on Polony

940
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: second race in Argentina, which is absolutely while lap where

941
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 3: the track was still half where he won two of

942
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 3: his first five races. When he went to Ducati's factory

943
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: team in twenty one, his best results at katm were

944
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: in the fourth Grand Prix. That year at Hareth, finished

945
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 3: on the podium in the sprint and the Grand Prix.

946
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 3: And I think Jack's one of these guys. He's so

947
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: naturally talented that he hits the ceiling really really quickly.

948
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: There's that and the ability to just get on the

949
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 3: thing and wring its neck. I sometimes wonder with Jack

950
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 3: whether he hits his head on that ceiling a little

951
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 3: bit early. And so the rate of development is very rapid,

952
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: and then it flattens out. The key thing for me

953
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 3: is he's on a one year contract with Pramak. His

954
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: teammate Miguel Olivere's got two. But I think Jack is

955
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 3: willing to take the bike to place as maybe Yama

956
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: hasn't seen it for the past few years because they've

957
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 3: only had two riders, and Fabio Couaturero's a fantastic rider.

958
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 3: Alex Rinz has been injured for the best part of

959
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 3: eighteen months, so I'm not sure they know where that

960
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 3: bike is. Jack's taking it to places a fourth on

961
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 3: the grid in qualifying at Burram unbelievable qualifying performance, and

962
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 3: Fabio Couaturero said afterwards Jack disconnected his brain in Q two,

963
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: which was said in Fabio's accent, it's better than the

964
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: way I just said it, but it's so true in

965
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: that Jack's willing to put it all on the line.

966
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: So I wasn't surprised that he started quickly with Yamaha.

967
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: I was surprised that it was so good look the

968
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 3: race weekend, crashed from a good position in the sprint

969
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,959
Speaker 3: and then had the bizarre Grand Prix where a bolt

970
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 3: came out of the fairing and he was holding it

971
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: together on the straits with his foe arms on the

972
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: tank and managed to burn them because it.

973
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: Was so hot.

974
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 3: So a weird weekend of results, but I think the

975
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 3: pace and the promise is really good there and a

976
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 3: couple of good tracks for him coming up to.

977
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's such a Moto VP thing. Burning your four

978
00:41:58,560 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 4: arms holding your bike together.

979
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 2: To be fine. It looks in extreme sports and he'll

980
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 2: be declared fit. Don't know. Oh yes for the next race.

981
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: Uh that's your wrap up.

982
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 4: I guess aware of those two sports so far because

983
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 4: as I said, argent Argentine Grand Prix this weekend from

984
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 4: OJP the Melbourne Superspoot for supercars, which also happens to

985
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 4: be in the same location as the Australian Grand Prix.

986
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 4: But just before we leave the last couple of weeks

987
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: behind by Shannon's we've got, of course the overtake of

988
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 4: the month. Now we're gonna look back. Of course we've

989
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 4: only had two rounds of anything so far, so the

990
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 4: choice is a relatively limited but I think we've got

991
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 4: some good ones. I'll kick things off and for me

992
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 4: the overtake. Actually it's the sort of the opposite. It's

993
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 4: an allowance of an overtake. It's a redress is what

994
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 4: it is. I'm picking cam Waters allowing brock Feenie back

995
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 4: through into the lead in the closing stages of the

996
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 4: Saturday Night Rice Saturday Night Race in Sydney because he

997
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 4: punted him off the road. This is battle for the lead,

998
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 4: really fraud. It was just a one on one. By

999
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 4: punning him off the road. Of course, Pool Brown caught

1000
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 4: up had to redress to have another crack at him,

1001
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 4: and of course he eventually won this race in the

1002
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 4: by the closest march in fifty years or something.

1003
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 2: Like that, and did it so expertly by keeping Will

1004
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: Brown behind him.

1005
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 4: Because Brown did have the run loud brockthrough even Will

1006
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 4: sort of have to regussion and go, oh look I

1007
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 4: didn't like it, but credit to him. Certain it's not

1008
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 4: quite It is an overtake. But it's not the guy

1009
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 4: who did the overtake that's getting the awards. The guy

1010
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 4: let him be overtaken.

1011
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 3: But it's also the quick thinking. Yeah, pressure like that

1012
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 3: with so much on the line, when you're being ganged

1013
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 3: up on two against what I think that was absolutely

1014
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: a great choice.

1015
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 4: Yes, and it goes to that great weekend Ward has

1016
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 4: had as well. Yeah, courage that the management was there

1017
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 4: every facet.

1018
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 3: I'll go two wheels. With the very first lap of

1019
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 3: the sprint in the Thailand Motor GP, Iyagura on an Aprillia,

1020
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: on his Motor GP debut, qualifies fifth. Unbelievable performance. Best

1021
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: qualifying by rookie in their very first Motor GP race

1022
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: since Fabio Guadurra in twenty nineteen. Reasonable position to start,

1023
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 3: and he said afterwards he got the term one couldn't

1024
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 3: believe how hard Jack Miller and Frankeo Morbidelli breaked in

1025
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 3: front of him, So he just took the outside and

1026
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: swept past both of them into the first corner, your

1027
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 3: first corner in a premier class, in your first lights

1028
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: out race, and all of a sudden he is right

1029
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: behind Pekabanyaya and Mark Marquez ahead of him. Unbelievable star,

1030
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: but it was as if he started the way he

1031
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: meant to go on. Finished fifth on an Aprillier in

1032
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 3: his very first Grand Prix, the first non Decati across

1033
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 3: the line, best debut stat corner for you, best debut

1034
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 3: by anyone in Motor GP in a race since Mark

1035
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: Marquez finished third in twenty thirteen Quaitar. So it does

1036
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: show you the level that this guy has got in

1037
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: him ragining Moto two champion. I think people thought that

1038
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 3: he would be decent in motor GP. The fact he

1039
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: didn't come in on a Honda was interesting. But he's

1040
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 3: come in for a Prillia. We know a Prillia doesn't

1041
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: have Joe Martin at the moment to see the limit

1042
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: of that bike. But as first impressions go, it was

1043
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 3: a pretty good one.

1044
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1045
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 2: Well, feels like a lot of stuff was saying about

1046
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: Pedro Acosta around this time.

1047
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 3: Yes, well, but even his debut wasn't as good as that.

1048
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: Yes, remarkable, wisdom, remarkable, very good. I enjoy it.

1049
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 4: Two good overtakes there. We have so many more this

1050
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 4: weekend through how much motorsport we've got. Let's look ahead now, Matt,

1051
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 4: because we've got quite a few big weeks of motorsport

1052
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 4: coming up for us. I thought we'd have a look

1053
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 4: in it. We need a prop, a crystal ball, something

1054
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 4: we can have there maybe in future. Yes, you're not

1055
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 4: watching it, just imagine we do actually have it. You

1056
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 4: don't know any better, but you can watch it if

1057
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 4: you don't know on YouTube. By complete home filtration, the

1058
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 4: complete home filtration crystal ball.

1059
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: What's a big prediction for the next couple of weeks

1060
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: in motorsport?

1061
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 3: Am I going first?

1062
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: You go first?

1063
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 3: Given what we've got coming up in motor GP, we've

1064
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: got Argentina. Doesn't get used for fifty one weeks of

1065
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: the year. Dirty bit of a goat track, very very

1066
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 3: very slippery. That sounds a bit like a Mark Marquees track,

1067
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 3: doesn't it.

1068
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: Imagine turn up straight out of the box.

1069
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: And be the guy who indulged in a bit of

1070
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: tarmac motor crossing and be very very good there. Following

1071
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 3: Argentina we go to the Circuit of the Americas in Texas.

1072
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: Mar Marquees is known as the King of Kosa. So

1073
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 3: my big prediction is that we'll get through the first

1074
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: three rounds of the motor GP season and Marques will

1075
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 3: be undefeated. He'll win the sprint in Argentina, the Grand

1076
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 3: Prix and do likewise it.

1077
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: But will we eat Hamburger afterwards? He will eat many Hamburgers?

1078
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 2: All right?

1079
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 4: My prediction, Look, I think it's actually could be could happen,

1080
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 4: It could be reasonable, O yours I think probably will happen.

1081
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: So there's a good prediction.

1082
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: Do I need to touch something wooden't here?

1083
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 4: No, I don't think there's anything wood in I think

1084
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 4: this is the weekend Australia finally gets an Australian on

1085
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 4: the podium with Australian run.

1086
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Speaker 3: So glad you've gone here could be the top step.

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Speaker 3: I think Oscopiastri could be the one to do it.

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Speaker 4: You've had Obviously Daniel cut out his chances, but obviously

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Speaker 4: never coincided perfectly with the car being in its top

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Speaker 4: form at Albert Park, and then he was disquaded by

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Speaker 4: the one time McLaren does feel like it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: the favorite coming into this weekend. Astris very different tractor barrain,

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Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera. But this feels like our best shot.

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Speaker 4: This genuinely feels like the best shot, and I think

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Speaker 4: it's going.

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Speaker 2: To be at least a podium.

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Speaker 3: Surely four times an Australian has finished fourth of the Australian,

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Speaker 3: there's a synergy there. Can we just put that in

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Speaker 3: the bin. We've come super super close. This has to

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Speaker 3: be the year given McLaren's preseason favoritism, so no pressure Oscar.

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Speaker 3: A country expects.

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Speaker 2: Yes, very much.

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Speaker 4: So well tough with how osk and did next week,

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Speaker 4: because that's all the time we've got for Pit Talk today.

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Speaker 4: keep you up to date with the latest formula on Supercars,

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Speaker 4: Mono GP. It's all happening this weekend at Foxsports dot

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Speaker 4: com dot Au until next week. I've been Michael Lamonado

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Speaker 4: on behalf of Matt I'll see you next week.