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Speaker 1: On Skylands Ostrodia. This is the Wider Panalty Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panety Show. Coming

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Speaker 2: up tonight, the housing crisis laid bare. Australians working two

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Speaker 2: jobs are fearful of being homeless due to skyrocketing housing costs.

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Speaker 2: Pro McSween and Tina McQueen. We'll be here to discuss

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Speaker 2: that and the day's other top stories. Mihrowitz will have

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Speaker 2: the latest from the US, including the Democrats doubling down

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Speaker 2: on their anti deportation stance. Link Lauren will bring his unique,

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Speaker 2: sharp commentary to everything from Megan Markle to Tim Walls.

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Speaker 2: Who wants to run for president in twenty twenty eight

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Speaker 2: imagine that, and we'll look at how the Trump administration

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Speaker 2: plans to demoralize the Iranian regime. That's later in the Hour,

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Speaker 2: and Left Is Losing. It features a cavalcade of lost souls.

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Speaker 3: I'm running the communist program, So first of mine is

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Speaker 3: peak the Capitalism off Campus.

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Speaker 2: But first, former Labor Defense Minister and US Ambassador Kim

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Speaker 2: Beasley has urged the Albanezy government to significantly increase its

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Speaker 2: military spending in line with Donald Trump's demands. An interview

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Speaker 2: with The Australian. He said, we can't afford to run

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Speaker 2: our own game. People are full of pison. Wind On

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Speaker 2: that we have to be mindful that we've got our limits,

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Speaker 2: but we do have to bear in mind what Trump's

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Speaker 2: saying and the others are saying. We have to up

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Speaker 2: our spending to three three and a half percent of GDP.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now is the panel Sky Newes contributors Prough,

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Speaker 2: McSween and Tina McQueen pro will discuss Trump's refusal to

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Speaker 2: exempt Australia from its metal tariffs in a moment. But

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Speaker 2: this is partly why the tariffs are being imposed by

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Speaker 2: the US. They want us to pull our weight when

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Speaker 2: it comes to defense spending. Brita.

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Speaker 4: The fact that Australia has really dragged a chain, and

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Speaker 4: it's not just the labor government, successive governments with security

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Speaker 4: is a huge worry. We know that we have this

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Speaker 4: situation whereas she'll be right mate, and that US will

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Speaker 4: ball us out. We've had a reality check with Trump

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Speaker 4: and also with the aggression from China, and it's time

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Speaker 4: for us to wake up and realize that we must

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Speaker 4: spend a minimum of an extra three piece percent on

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Speaker 4: our or three piece percent of our GDB on defense

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Speaker 4: because we are so.

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Speaker 2: Behind sitting ducks.

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Speaker 4: China prove that just recently with its circumnavigation and the

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Speaker 4: fact that we really didn't have a chance or a

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Speaker 4: clue knowing that they were there.

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Speaker 5: So we have to wake up to ourselves.

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Speaker 2: Tina. Do you see any chance that Trump will rethink

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Speaker 2: this tariff in position on Australia if we do increase

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Speaker 2: our defense spending. And I don't know if some of

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Speaker 2: our leaders behave a little bit better. We've had the

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Speaker 2: wa premiere having a go Donald Trump and Jadi Vance

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Speaker 2: just in the past week. We've got the former Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister making a spectacle of himself having this war of words.

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Speaker 2: It can't be helping our case.

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Speaker 6: No, look, none of these idiots are help helping it

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Speaker 6: at all. And I don't see any change under the

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Speaker 6: current administration. I mean, you've got absolute tools like Don

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Speaker 6: Farrell and Kevin Rudd trying to deal with the Trump administration.

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Speaker 6: And it's clear from President Trump, you know, refusing to

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Speaker 6: take any more calls from Albanesi that this working relationship

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Speaker 6: is not in a good place at the moment. And

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Speaker 6: I think the Trump administration honestly is just sitting it

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Speaker 6: out and waiting for change of government where we have

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Speaker 6: fresh new faces. To be honest, reader, Alberici's government should

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Speaker 6: have given me a call. I've spent more time with

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Speaker 6: the Trump administration team than they have. It's just ridiculous

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Speaker 6: that the relationship has reached such a low point and

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Speaker 6: Albanesi has allowed that.

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Speaker 2: To happen, and they've kept Kevin run in that position.

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Speaker 2: They know what the Trump administration thinks of him. So

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Speaker 2: if you're trying to win concessions, then this is not

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Speaker 2: the way to go about it. And the fact that

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Speaker 2: our prime minister can't even get a phone call with

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Speaker 2: the President of the moment speaks volumes. Now we've heard

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Speaker 2: plenty from Malcolm Turnbull about his thoughts about Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: and now Kerry Anne Kenley has spoken out about her

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Speaker 2: dealings with a former prime minister. What he has said

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Speaker 2: about Donald Trump being a bully, well, what do they

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Speaker 2: say about people in glass harveside mansions not throwing stones?

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Speaker 5: I believe mister Turnbull really is extremely thin skinned and

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Speaker 5: from my personal professional experience, I had an issue after

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Speaker 5: an interview where he in the foyer of Channel NAH

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Speaker 5: and shredded my producer in front of everybody, quite unfairly.

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Speaker 5: When I realized this somehows later, I did call his

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Speaker 5: number and his mobile and his mind answered. He said,

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Speaker 5: I'm twenty seven. I said, well, maybe you should contemplate

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Speaker 5: your future career because you've been working for Bully way

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Speaker 5: too long. So it has been a fairly frosty relationship

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Speaker 5: because he was too gapless to actually call me personally.

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Speaker 5: He just wanted to get stuck into somebody who couldn't

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Speaker 2: Wow, cac calling Turnbull a bully. Bless Carry Anne. We

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Speaker 2: do love her pro She tells it like it like

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Speaker 2: it is here, doesn't leave you wondering what she thinks

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Speaker 2: about things.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting, isn't it that people in powerful positions

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Speaker 4: you often see that they treat the little people with contempt.

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Speaker 4: He didn't have the guts to confront Carry Anne. She

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Speaker 4: left him a message you wouldn't take her call if

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Speaker 4: he had a problem with the interview. He should have

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Speaker 4: spoken to her, not the line producer. And this is

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Speaker 4: a problem, you know. We hear this with other ex

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Speaker 4: prime ministers, one who of courses an ambassador overseas at

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Speaker 4: the moment, who was really rude to make up people.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's really terrible.

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Speaker 4: That you think that these people who have who are ghosts. Really,

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Speaker 4: let's face it, they're just ghosts that refuse to go away,

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Speaker 4: have treated people with so much contempt and feel that

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Speaker 4: they have the opportunity wherever they can to voice their

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Speaker 2: Trumbull maybe at Turnbull, I call him turn coat.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's I think he's suffering abandoned and issues

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Speaker 4: from his history and also from the Prime ministership, and

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Speaker 4: he's just refuses to go away.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think Teena misses the spotlight. He wants

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Speaker 2: to be part of the conversation. He wants to weigh in.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he maybe got a thrill when the President

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Speaker 2: put a post up on social about him, no matter

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Speaker 2: how disparaging it was, he had the leader of the

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Speaker 2: free world for a few seconds thinking about him. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if that's what the motivation is, whether there

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Speaker 2: it's just a tension seeking but it certainly isn't particularly

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Speaker 6: No, it's relevant deprivation syndrome with turbul He likes to

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Speaker 6: be in the spotlight, but it's a ridiculous time. You know,

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Speaker 6: he's not putting Australia first, ridiculous time to open his mouth.

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Speaker 2: I have so many.

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Speaker 6: Turble stories that I can't tell reader because he's so litigious.

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Speaker 6: Kerry and Kerry and Kenley is spot on the money.

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Speaker 6: And I'd love to tell you what the Trump administration

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Speaker 6: thinks of Turbule. Again, I can't because he's got his

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Speaker 6: of him. But it's still a bit of annoyed him

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Speaker 6: that he stuck his head up to Common and this

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Speaker 6: when he you know, there's no reason to do so,

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Speaker 6: and made it difficult for the Albaneze government.

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Speaker 2: Now, now let's turn our attention to Australia's housing crisis.

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Speaker 2: New data from the Center for International Economics, commissioned by

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Speaker 2: the Housing Industry Association, has revealed that in Victoria the

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Speaker 2: massive increases in taxes and how much it's hurting. Victorians

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Speaker 2: have faced a one hundred and fifty seven thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: housing tax hike in just six years. So right now

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Speaker 2: new four bedroom, two bathroom home being spent on regulatory

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Speaker 2: costs and taxes. That's about forty three percent of the

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Speaker 2: total build costs. It is just completely mad. Got skyrocketing costs,

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Speaker 2: Its little wonder supply is failing to keep up with demand,

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Speaker 2: and a host of idiotic decisions, particularly from the state government,

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Speaker 2: have forced investors out of the market. Land taxis skyrocketed,

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Speaker 2: for example, so the pool of rental properties crew has

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Speaker 2: shrunk and it's causing rents to increase. And before I

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Speaker 2: get your thoughts on this, let's listen to this man's plight.

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Speaker 2: This is an Australian guy who's doing the best for

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Speaker 2: but here fears they could be homeless because of increasing rents.

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Speaker 2: This is from the ABC's Q and A program earlier

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Speaker 2: in the week.

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Speaker 7: I recently got a rent increase notice for an additional

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Speaker 7: one hundred and eighty dollars a week, which works out

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Speaker 7: to be about ten grand a year. I try to

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Speaker 7: find a cheaper place and they're just done any what

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Speaker 7: little is available. There's dozens of people lined up, lots

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Speaker 7: of them are immigrants and they have plenty more money

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Speaker 7: than I can possibly get. I'm already working two jobs,

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Speaker 7: one more rent increase, and my family, my one year

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Speaker 7: My family's already been forced out of Sydney for the

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Speaker 7: same reasons. I want to know, is the government going

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Speaker 7: to cut immigration to match housing availability or are we

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Speaker 7: just going to keep going until every regular working Australian

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Speaker 8: I'm so sorry going through that, and it's a story

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Speaker 8: we all hear right across the country, obviously, particularly in

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Speaker 8: the biggest states, around the biggest cities. We have been

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Speaker 8: working very hard to get migration levels, immigration levels down

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Speaker 8: we've found after those efforts is that arrival numbers have

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Speaker 8: returned to about pre COVID levels, but we're not managing

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Speaker 2: That's just a sorry state of affairs to have someone

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Speaker 4: And wasn't that all blah blah blah in the response,

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Speaker 4: this is the problem with this government. Talk the words, oh,

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Speaker 4: you know, we feel for you. We're doing something. They're

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Speaker 4: talking about what they're going to do.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing.

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Speaker 4: You're letting in record numbers of migrants and you're lying

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Speaker 4: about it. You're saying that it's cut back. It is

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Speaker 4: not cutting back. You're lying and you are doing nothing.

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Speaker 4: When you look at the state taxes on houses, you

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Speaker 4: look at the bureaucracy, you are doing absolute nothing.

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Speaker 2: And you sit there and offer put.

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Speaker 4: The sympathetic tone in your voice and offer platitudes.

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Speaker 2: But Australians are working.

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Speaker 4: Australians are now the new power and they're living intents

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Speaker 4: and cars because.

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Speaker 2: Of your policies.

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Speaker 4: You are criminal and this is outrageous what you are

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Speaker 4: doing to Australia.

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Speaker 2: And we're all on to you.

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Speaker 4: You can talk as much as you like.

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Speaker 2: It's all hot air rita.

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Speaker 6: That that gentleman on me, Yes, So that gentleman on

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Speaker 6: that program is from why on an area I'm very

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Speaker 6: familiar with, there's twenty eight percent unemployment and to a

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Speaker 6: big migrant ship that's taken up the housing. But also

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Speaker 6: the government knocked back a mind that could have gone

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Speaker 6: ahead in why I'm from a Korean company and created

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Speaker 6: enormous opportunities on the Central Coast in the seat of Doebell,

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Speaker 1: So it breaks my heart to hear stories.

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Speaker 6: Like this when they've been missed opportunities because of the

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Speaker 6: labor government in seats like Dobell.

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Speaker 2: That is such a good point that they are doing

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Speaker 2: And just finally, ladies, the Australian Human Rights Commission has

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Speaker 2: So Prue, McSween ten and McQueen, thank you ladies. Joining

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Speaker 2: have taken one giant step towards a Ukraine Russian at peace. Still,

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Speaker 10: Today we meet an offer that the Ukraineans have accepted,

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Speaker 10: And I think today Ukraine has taken a concrete step

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Speaker 2: Ami. This is a massive step towards pace. Will it

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I gotta tell you rito. I'm not sick of

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Speaker 11: I mean, look, it took Trump fifty days to get

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Speaker 1: It's an Arabic term that Arabs.

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Speaker 11: Generally, when Arabs do ceasefires, they are just this goes

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Speaker 11: Trumps, as we know, had an intelligence pause, a military

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Speaker 11: forget something it bears repeating. Buden invaded the Ukraine during Obama.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's been reported that Donald Trump told

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Speaker 2: He has tried over and over again to diminish Russia's power,

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Speaker 2: be more important. We stop this and bring him home.

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Speaker 2: Mahmoud's rights are our rights. If they can illegally abduct

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Speaker 2: tell me about this man and why Ice and the

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Speaker 11: Yeah, in the words of Donald Trump, Charllo Mahmoud, goodbye. Look, Mahmud,

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Speaker 11: you play stupid games, you win stupid price. Let me

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Speaker 1: Right now.

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Speaker 11: This is the guy, by the way, you showed that

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Speaker 11: The Senate Democrats have lined up behind them. Senate Democrats

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Speaker 11: this is all legal. The man is not a US citizen.

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Speaker 11: He's a green caller, a green cardhole.

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Speaker 11: Statut like in the anti room waiting to become a citizen. Okay,

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Speaker 1: And he qualifies not for.

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Speaker 11: One of those things or two of those things, he

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Speaker 1: I am so glad he's done this.

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Speaker 2: Now, Ami, you've made a short doco on the Israel

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Speaker 2: her Maas four and has Israel done enough to save

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Speaker 11: The media was flooded with images of destroyed buildings, smashed

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Speaker 11: To demonize Israel, a narrative accepted by many people on

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Speaker 11: Oh yes, So do you think that Israel is committing

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Speaker 15: I think they acting improperly because they're killed in a

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Speaker 2: Right, I think they are. I think they are take

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Speaker 1: They don't care about the Submidians.

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Speaker 11: So is Israel committing war crimes as the media is promulgated,

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Speaker 2: Ami, you must just be dismayed by the opinion of

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Speaker 11: I'm glad you asked the exact opposite, because after I

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Speaker 11: in Afghanistan, for example, and any Iraq Israel, which is

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Speaker 11: fighting in a far more dense place right Gaza, where

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Speaker 11: you have an organization, a government, a government who is

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Speaker 11: deliberately trying to put its own civilians in harm's way,

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Speaker 11: only one out of two of the people who are killed,

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Speaker 11: the civilians, fifty percent of them are in fact that

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Speaker 11: people are trying to target, which I know sounds like

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Speaker 11: a lot. Look, I know you say the words every

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Speaker 11: civilian life is too much, and that's true.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day.

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Speaker 11: You have to look at data, and data shows that

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Speaker 11: the IDF is the most ethical army in the world.

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Speaker 11: You know what people also forget And at the end

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Speaker 11: of that document. Towards the end of the documentary, I was

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Speaker 11: shooting in an Israel and when I was there, I

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Speaker 11: was coming under withering rocket attack. People forget Israel for months,

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Speaker 11: every every day was being rocketed by hamas from Gods

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Speaker 11: into Tel Aviv, into Jerusalem, into all these population shutters.

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Speaker 11: And the only reason why there wasn't massive amount of

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Speaker 11: death because Israel's and technology iron dome to shoot these

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Speaker 11: things down in mid air.

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Speaker 1: But every hour, every hour I.

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Speaker 11: Was there for a week read up, there were red

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Speaker 11: alerts where people had to run from their homes.

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Speaker 2: People forget that army. People forget that. We've run out

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Speaker 2: of time, but we will bring more of that documentary

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Speaker 2: for our viewers next week. I'mi Harwait's thanks for your

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Speaker 2: time tonight. Always a pleasure still to come. Lefties losing

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Speaker 2: it plus ten Walls wants to run for president in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight mentioned that link. Lauren joins me next,

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Speaker 2: you're watching the Raid of Paney Show, and it's time

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Speaker 2: for Lefties losing it. We have an update on one

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Speaker 2: of our favorite Trump deranged celebrities, though these days, Rosie

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Speaker 2: o'donald is only famous for emoting incoherently on TikTok about

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Speaker 2: Trump and her fever dreams about living in a fascist dictatorship.

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Speaker 2: And it seems those fever dreams have seen Rosie flee

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Speaker 2: the US for Ireland. Yes, Ireland. Funny how these people

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Speaker 2: never flee to a non white, non Christian country. They're

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Speaker 2: not fleeing to Afghanistan or Zimbabwe or Guatemala.

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Speaker 12: Moved here on January fifteenth, and it's been pretty wonderful.

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Speaker 12: I have to say, never someone who thought I would

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Speaker 12: move to another country. That's what I decided would be

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Speaker 12: the best for myself and my twelve year old child.

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Speaker 12: I miss my other kids, I miss my friends, I

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Speaker 12: miss many things about life there at home, and I'm

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Speaker 12: trying to find a home here in this beautiful country.

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Speaker 12: And when you know it is safe for all citizens

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Speaker 12: to have equal rates there in America, that's when we

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Speaker 12: will consider coming back.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, she looks positively ecstatic. They're so happy, it's

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Speaker 2: almost contagious, like that cold saw that was on her

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Speaker 2: mouth the last time. She featured on left is exactly

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Speaker 2: what rights is she being deprived of in the US?

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Speaker 2: What rights does she no longer have? And is she

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Speaker 2: aware that Island is a pretty socially conservative country. Abortion

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Speaker 2: is only available on demand up to twelve weeks. That's

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Speaker 2: more restrictive than the abortion laws in Mississippi. Rosie. Now,

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Speaker 2: let's go to Rosie's old show. She was a view

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Speaker 2: co host for several years, and as we well know,

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Speaker 2: the level of weapon great crazy on that program has

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Speaker 2: not changed, and the lefties losing it aren't just the hosts,

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Speaker 2: but also the guests. Watch here, as supposed moderate Democrat

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Speaker 2: Senator Elisa slot Could says that a fellow countryman, the

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Speaker 2: majority of them are dumb, overgrown teenagers whose brains haven't

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Speaker 2: fully formed. Gosh, I wonder why the Dems are unelectable.

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Speaker 16: We're still pretty young for a country. These are like

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Speaker 16: our angry teenage years, right. We are going through this

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Speaker 16: push and pull where we're happy, we're sad.

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Speaker 2: We want this, we want that.

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Speaker 16: And what do you do when you have a teenager

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Speaker 16: who's threatening themselves and others? You just try to get

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Speaker 16: them through this period alive so that their brain can

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Speaker 16: fully form and you can come back to kind of

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Speaker 16: what a country Trump, No, I'm talking about our country.

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Speaker 16: We're a pendulum swinging, We're mandulum swinging. And so for me,

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Speaker 16: I think that I don't think there's a single American

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Speaker 16: who feels like this is normal.

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Speaker 2: Oh dear, when even leftist like Van Jones telling you

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Speaker 2: to stop insulting the country with your absurd characterizations, but

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Speaker 2: perhaps you should reconsider the invitation to appear on the

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Speaker 2: View and reflect on why your party is in crisis.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear from Van Jones.

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Speaker 1: Look, man, we're screwed.

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Speaker 9: I mean, we don't know.

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Speaker 15: No Democrats don't know what to do.

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Speaker 1: This is a nightmare.

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Speaker 15: Listen, the Democratic Party is going through a massive set

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Speaker 15: of internal crises. You have a party that got trapped

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Speaker 15: two ways. One defending a broken status quo that nobody

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Speaker 15: likes because they thought that Dawn Trump was going to

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Speaker 15: make it worse. But when you're defending a status quo,

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Speaker 15: you're going to lose and then offending most people in

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Speaker 15: the country, calling everybody sexist and racist and transphobic and

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Speaker 15: every other name, and then say please follow us.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's meet some straight young ladies who claim to

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Speaker 2: be transgay men. So these ladies were born it is

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Speaker 2: they present as female. They like men, but they are

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Speaker 2: somehow queer trans gay man.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but we're fan presenting.

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Speaker 4: So we were just shouting.

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Speaker 2: We were shouting that we were a trans gay man

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Speaker 2: because we are what is a trans gay man biologically female?

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Speaker 2: But we're transman and we're gay. We're like, guys, do

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Speaker 2: you have gender dysfloria? Yes, heavily.

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Speaker 12: Are you're stelf representing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still fan present.

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Speaker 6: I find it comfortable, but at the same time, it

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Speaker 6: does get hard when I can't look mask.

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Speaker 12: So do you do you identify as as gay or

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Speaker 12: a queer?

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Speaker 8: As queer?

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Speaker 2: I think that identify as insufferable attention seekers. Joining me

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Speaker 2: now is political commentator and former senior advisor to RFK

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Speaker 2: Junior Link Lauren Link. Let's start with Dylan Mulvaaney is

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Speaker 2: back back on the view, back all over social media,

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Speaker 2: and with a new book to promote. I've got to ask,

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Speaker 2: have you ordered your copy yet?

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Speaker 13: Great to be back with you, Rita, No, I have

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Speaker 13: not ordered a copy of the book. I don't think

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Speaker 13: I will be ordering a copy of the book.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why.

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Speaker 13: Dylan mulvaney needs a memoir, right, you're under thirty, We're

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Speaker 13: about the same age. Dylan Morvani put on a wig

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Speaker 13: and address and suddenly wants to play the victim for

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Speaker 13: fame and fortune. Unless you are Anne Frank or Malala

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Speaker 13: or someone who has gone through a harrowing experience, we

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Speaker 13: do not need a memoir from you if you are

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Speaker 13: still a child.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing. How much how much insider

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Speaker 2: we're going to get and how much do we want?

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Speaker 2: Dylan was on the View yesterday, I think it was.

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Speaker 2: We played some footage of that, and really what was

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Speaker 2: more interesting than Dylan Mulvainy's appearance was will Be Goldberg

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Speaker 2: going on this bizarre tie rade about why men should

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Speaker 2: be able to compete in women's sport, and no female

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Speaker 2: athlete could possibly have a problem with that. I've got

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Speaker 2: to say, I think even Dylan mulvaaney looked bemused by

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Speaker 2: WHOOPI Goldberg's rant.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely, I mean, having an intellectual conversation with Whoopy Goldberg

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Speaker 13: is like taking driver's head from Stevie Wonder. It's something

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Speaker 13: you don't want to do. I also just found out

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Speaker 13: Whoopy Goldberg is not transgender. Herself. I thought for the

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Speaker 13: longest time she was. I think Dylan going to the View.

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Speaker 1: Is also plain because it's.

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Speaker 13: The one it's the one room where Dylan is actually

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Speaker 13: the most feminine person if you look at the panel

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Speaker 13: of the View. So yeah, Dylan was the fuddled. But

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Speaker 13: about eighty percent of Americans, they do not want men

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Speaker 13: and women's sports, right, this is an eighty twenty issue

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Speaker 13: here in the United States. So we're on the side

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Speaker 13: of common sense. Dylan mulvaney calls all of us extremists

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Speaker 13: because we want common sense. We're in the middle. We're fair,

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Speaker 13: we're balanced. We're looking at Dylan mulvaney and Whoopy Goldberg thinking,

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Speaker 13: you guys are the extremists for wanting men in women's

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Speaker 13: sports and women's locker rooms.

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Speaker 2: Well, they were almost shocked that Gavin Newsom, the Democrat

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Speaker 2: governor of California, said that it's unfair to have men's

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Speaker 2: bodies in women's sports. So when Gavin Newsom is too

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Speaker 2: right wing for you, perhaps you've got some issues there.

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Speaker 2: And the Democrats, well, when they're not busy calling most

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Speaker 2: of the country racist or sexist or transphobic, they're on

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Speaker 2: social media link making absolute fools of themselves. So many examples.

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to show a couple here, because we

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Speaker 2: don't have all day. Let's have a look at some

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Speaker 2: of Jasmine Crockett's work.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, they tried to rip the game, but you can't

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Speaker 14: seak influence.

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Speaker 1: Like that. Hey you'm tripping, I'm slamming, I'm run give

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Speaker 1: it back, like, what's that big?

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Speaker 2: And here's another Democrat. This one's old enough to know better.

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Speaker 2: She's eighty two years old. This is Rosa Deloro. She

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Speaker 2: just posted this on TikTok link. What is happening with

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Speaker 2: the Democrats right now? Is there a sane, moderate voice

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Speaker 2: among them who can restore some level of rationality and

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Speaker 2: make them electable again.

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Speaker 13: The Democrats in DC, they do not want to work.

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Speaker 13: They want to sing and dance and break into chorus

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Speaker 13: on the house floor. They think they're in the show

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Speaker 13: Glee or high school musical. They do not want to

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Speaker 13: work at all. Why don't you guys go to work

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Speaker 13: for your constituents. You're posting these dancing videos. They don't

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Speaker 13: want to work.

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Speaker 1: They want to twork.

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Speaker 13: That's what's happening in Washington, d C. But they're also

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Speaker 13: in a deficit with young men. The Democratic Party here

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Speaker 13: in the States, they're really at a deficit with young men.

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Speaker 13: I don't know what's going on with Jasmine Crockett or

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Speaker 13: Congresswoman Deloro, but how is that going to help you

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Speaker 13: with young men? I mean, this one is eighty two

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Speaker 13: years old. She looks like Grizabella from Cats. Young men

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Speaker 13: aren't really resonating with that image the Democratic Party is

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Speaker 13: putting forward.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, because they portray young men as the enemy.

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Speaker 2: They talk about how toxic masculinity is, and they really

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Speaker 2: have made no effort to moderate those views at all.

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Speaker 2: Megan Mirkal, now, I can't have you on the program

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Speaker 2: and not get your thoughts on her new program, what

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Speaker 2: would you call it? Lifestyle series, reality series, whatever it is.

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Speaker 2: It's been mocked mercilessly online. It's critics, viewers, there's the

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Speaker 2: parodies have started.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to my home.

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Speaker 13: Well, it's not my homeworks to set, actually, but I'll

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Speaker 13: go to my set. You know, it's actually so funny

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Speaker 13: that you keep calling Megan Markle I'm Sussex now and

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Speaker 13: take thee and we're going to take them out of

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Speaker 13: the box.

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Speaker 2: Yes, took them out of the box, put them into

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Speaker 2: other packets, which seems to be Meghan's idea of cooking.

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Speaker 2: This is just a terrible program link what little of

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Speaker 2: it I have seen has been mind numbingly boring, lame.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing really aspirational about it. You would think, at

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Speaker 2: least Lifestyles of the rich and famous, you'd see some

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Speaker 2: beautiful things, get some ideas about home wez And no,

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Speaker 2: it's not even aspirational. It's just inauthentic and just unlikable.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely, I mean, Meghan Markele's show is so boring. It's

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Speaker 13: also like this dystopian fever dream, like California is burning

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Speaker 13: to the ground. But Megan Markle this ex wanna be

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Speaker 13: Duchess's trapesing around a rented mansion and a rented kitchen

656
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Speaker 13: with her fake friends, baking donuts and making rainbow root platters. Right,

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Speaker 13: so this is supposed to be a woman of the people.

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Speaker 13: What's also funny to me is that they couched this

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Speaker 13: reality show as being her hanging out with her best friends.

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Speaker 13: On the first episode, she has her makeup artist come over, Right,

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Speaker 13: this is staff Meghan.

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Speaker 2: Martas stuff kitchen.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's a fake kitchen, they're fake friends.

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Speaker 1: She's fage.

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Speaker 13: She has no authenticity, and we're really in an era

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Speaker 13: where people want authenticity. I want to see the real

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Speaker 13: Meghan Markle. Why don't they do a reality show where

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Speaker 13: Harry leaves the toilet set up, she falls in and

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Speaker 13: chases them through the mansion with her scrawnie legs. That's

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Speaker 13: the show I want to see. We've all heard the

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Speaker 13: stories about Megan Markle bullying staff at the palace. What

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Speaker 13: about a show where Meghan Markle throws a cell phone

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Speaker 13: at an assistant when she's minorly inconvenienced. Give us a

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Speaker 13: real Megan Markle show. But this fake phony contrive bs

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Speaker 13: is not interesting to any of us.

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Speaker 2: It's not I would watch that if just Meghan's bullying

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Speaker 2: her staff or having a fights with Harry's family, that

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Speaker 2: would be in throlling. I mean, that's why people watch

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Speaker 2: the Real Housewives, That's why they watch the Kardashians, because

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Speaker 2: there's plenty of ugly content in they're mixed in with

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Speaker 2: all the you know, lifestyle aspirational stuff. Now, you did

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Speaker 2: note that on this program her idea of cooking is

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Speaker 2: taking pretzels. I think it was from one packet and

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Speaker 2: shifting them to another packet. I mean if you're not

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Speaker 2: going to make them from scratch, what really is the

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Speaker 2: point of the program.

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 13: Absolutely, I mean they're paying Megan Markle millions of dollars

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Speaker 13: and she took pretzels from one bag into another. This woman,

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Speaker 13: she's not in mensa. Okay, I'm starting to think maybe

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Speaker 13: Megan Markle isn't as bright as she purports to be.

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Speaker 13: Taking pretzels from one bag into another does not take

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Speaker 13: genius IQ. Okay, Megan Markle. I also have to say

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Speaker 13: if you're a mom, if you're a working parent out

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Speaker 13: there and you're rushing to get your kids ready for school,

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Speaker 13: you do not have time to make a rainbow fruit

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Speaker 13: platter or gourmet donuts. If I came downstairs as a

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Speaker 13: kid and my mom had made a rainbow fruit platter,

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Speaker 13: I would have thought she was on speed or someone

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Speaker 13: had died.

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Speaker 2: You would be asking some questions. She ain't, Mamas Stewart,

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Speaker 2: we can say that much now. The worst VP candidate ever?

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Speaker 2: If you asked may Tim Walls, well, he wants to

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Speaker 2: be the worst presidential candidate ever? Is Tim Walls really

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Speaker 2: contemplating running in twenty twenty eight? Surely not link, surely not?

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Speaker 13: Well, I don't think there's going to be any big

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Speaker 13: donors for Tim Walls. And politics is all about money, right,

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Speaker 13: So if the donors aren't there, then Tim Walls really

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Speaker 13: doesn't have a campaign whatsoever moving into twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 13: But this just shows how delusional Tim Walls actually is

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Speaker 13: that he even thinks he could be a front runner

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Speaker 13: in twenty twenty eight. I mean, America does not want

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Speaker 13: an overgrown Disney adult with a questionable Internet search history

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Speaker 13: running the country. I don't even want Tim Walls near

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Speaker 13: a McDonald's playground, let alone in charge of the nuclear code.

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Speaker 13: So he's very, very delusional. He might have a career

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Speaker 13: on Broadway. He's got those Bob bossy jazz hands that

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Speaker 13: would be great for Tim Walls, but in presidential politics

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Speaker 13: absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, but I will me he's not seeing his

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Speaker 2: wife again because she was terrifying Gwen Woles if I

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Speaker 2: remember correctly. Link Lauren, it's always a pleasure. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for your time tonight.

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Speaker 13: Spaking reader. Always exciting still to come.

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Speaker 2: Well, look at how the Trump administration plans to demoralize

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Speaker 2: the Iranian regime. Alireza Jaffar Zadia joins me next welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now is the deputy director of the Washington

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Speaker 2: Office of the National Council of Resistance of Iran, Ali

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Speaker 2: Reza Jaffar Zadair Ali Reza. After four years of the

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Speaker 2: Biden administration, where Iran seemed to be emboldened and enriched,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump is taking a different approach. Is demanding talks

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Speaker 2: with Iran Supreme leader to negotiate a new deal. Iran

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Speaker 2: has so far responded saying that they will not neotiate

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Speaker 2: a new deal, then will not deal with bulling governments.

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Speaker 2: That's their response to the US. What do you say

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Speaker 2: happening next? And what do you make of the Trump

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Speaker 2: administration's approach to Iran?

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Speaker 1: Well, certainly Rita.

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Speaker 14: In the past, the policy of appeasement of the Iran regime,

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Speaker 14: whether it was by the United States or Europe, has

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Speaker 14: been very destructive.

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Speaker 1: It allowed the run.

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Speaker 14: Regime billions of dollars of money and resources that they

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Speaker 14: used to fund terror in the region, but also using

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Speaker 14: that money for expanding their nuclear weapons program. But also

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Speaker 14: the outside world didn't hold the Iran regime to account

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Speaker 14: for their nuclear violations. When we first exposed the nuclear

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Speaker 14: sites of Iran in August of two thousand and two.

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Speaker 14: They were in very early stages and that program could

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Speaker 14: have been stopped at the time, but that wasn't the case.

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Speaker 14: Now the whole situation is different. At the time that

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Speaker 14: the regime is very close to building the bomb. They're

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Speaker 14: working on building nuclear warheads. They are limiting the IEA

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Speaker 14: inspections of the Uranian nuclear sites.

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Speaker 1: The world should really focus.

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Speaker 14: On shutting down the entire nuclear operation of the Iran

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Speaker 14: regime because that program is all about nuclear weapons, it's

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Speaker 14: not about energy.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 14: That has been the stated policy recently by the United States,

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Speaker 14: and Fabruary fourth, the President announced that those nuclear sites

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Speaker 14: needs to shut down.

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Speaker 1: They run a regime responded both.

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Speaker 14: The Supreme Dare and the President saying that we're not

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Speaker 14: going to do that, but let's sit down and talk

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Speaker 14: and negotiate.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 14: The reason the regime is doing it because they want

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Speaker 14: to drag the United States but also Europeans and others

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Speaker 14: into the negotiating table and start getting into the details

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Speaker 14: like how much uranium we're going to have and all

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Speaker 14: of those things, which is exactly serving the purpose of Tehran.

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Speaker 14: We're racing against the clock come October of this year,

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Speaker 14: the UN Security Council resolution sanctions and limitations are going

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Speaker 14: to expire, so would the mechanism known as a snapback.

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Speaker 1: That you can get the back.

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Speaker 14: So that's why I think it's so important to keep

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Speaker 14: the focus on snapping back the sanctions on the around regime,

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Speaker 14: maintaining the focus that those sites all need to be

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Speaker 14: shut down.

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Speaker 2: Can the US exert further economic pressure to force the

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Speaker 2: Iranian regime to change direction because an Iran that has

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Speaker 2: nuclear weapons that is a frightening prospect for the region

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Speaker 2: and for the world.

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Speaker 14: Definitely don't want to allow the run A regime to

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Speaker 14: develop nuclear weapons. Imagine without the nuclear bomb, they are

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Speaker 14: the head of the sake of war and terror in

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Speaker 14: the whole region. And if they are armed with the

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Speaker 14: nuclear bomb, that would really shift the whole situation, especially

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Speaker 14: in now that the regime has lost a lot of

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Speaker 14: its cloud in the region.

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Speaker 1: You know Hesbala in Lebanon, they lost asset.

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Speaker 14: In Syria, and she had militias in Iraq. The population

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Speaker 14: in Iran are rising up, you know, they've been doing

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Speaker 14: it for the past several years, nine rounds of major

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Speaker 14: uprisings in Iran, people calling for change. In all thirty

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Speaker 14: one provinces. So really the only short way of ending

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Speaker 14: the nuclear and terror threat of the Iran regime is

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Speaker 14: to end the rule of the clerics in Iran, and

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Speaker 14: of course that's the responsibility of the people of Iran

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Speaker 14: and the organized resistance that will happen. The Iran regime

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Speaker 14: doesn't have the support of its population. No matter what

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Speaker 14: they do, how many people they killed. By the way,

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Speaker 14: since the Possession took office, over one thousand prisoners have

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Speaker 14: been executed.

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Speaker 1: None of that is going to work.

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Speaker 14: None of that is going to save a regime that

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Speaker 14: is rejected by its own population and is facing a

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Speaker 14: very organized, strong resistance against the rule.

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Speaker 2: As you mentioned, Iran is a chief sponsor of terrorism

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Speaker 2: in the region, biggest fackers of the likes of Hamas

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Speaker 2: and Hezbela, to name just a couple. What would be

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Speaker 2: your advice to the Trump administration and how to deal

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Speaker 2: with this regime, because we've seen the Democrats policy of

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Speaker 2: appeasement and diplomatic measures has not worked. It's only emboldened

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Speaker 2: the Iranian regime. If you were advising Donald Trump, what

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Speaker 2: would be your main piece of advice to him.

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Speaker 14: My advice to both President Trump but also European leaders,

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Speaker 14: anyone who's affected by this regime is very simple.

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Speaker 1: Now is the time.

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Speaker 14: This is the time to end the rule of the clerics,

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Speaker 14: and of course.

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Speaker 1: That the responsiblity of the people of Iran.

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Speaker 14: What the administration can do is to limit the resources.

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Speaker 1: To the regime.

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Speaker 14: Don't give them money, don't give them resources, don't give

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Speaker 14: them legitimacy, hold the Tehran accountable for their violations of

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Speaker 14: nuclear weapons program, for their terrorism, but also for the

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Speaker 14: killings in Iran. That's an important element, but that's not enough.

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Speaker 14: The most crucial thing are those on the ground, those

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Speaker 14: who want to bring about change.

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Speaker 1: There's no need for boots on.

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Speaker 14: The ground, there's no need for even appropriating money.

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Speaker 1: None of that is needed.

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Speaker 14: The people of Iran have the capability to bring down

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Speaker 14: the regime. They have a clear platform that for the

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Speaker 14: future of Iran that is based on separation of religion

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Speaker 14: and state, ballot box being the sole criteria for legitimacy.

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Speaker 14: They want to free market economy, gender equality, freedom of religion,

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Speaker 14: peace in the medialleast, and a non nuclear republic Iran.

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Speaker 14: So what would the United States do? You stand with them.

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Speaker 14: You recognize the right of the people if you're right.

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Speaker 2: That's it. You stand with the you stand with the protesters,

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Speaker 2: and we see we saw Barack Obama fail to do

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Speaker 2: that over and over again during his presidency. Alirezzo Jaffar Zadia,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time tonight. That's it

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Speaker 2: from May. I'll see you tomorrow night at eleven with

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Speaker 2: Douglas Murray. Up next is Newsnight