1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,040 Speaker 1: Better than the Lego. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: Support Coops Rooster Sunday. He was nothing short of a disaster. 3 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: I've really seen anything like a semi walker, a C. L. 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: Brandon Smith shortly after a cl Victor Radley scapular similar 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: the one you did shoulder. 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: So he's going to delay surgery. 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: But I'm sure if he'd be back Nat Butcher Hia, 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: he'll be okay. 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: But I went from being genuine contenders to now sort 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 3: of a question mark with some of those. But in 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 3: terms of their performance on the weekend, like I think 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: even before Sam work at Walker went off injured, some 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 3: of their play, particularly their attack was very sideways. It 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 3: was past past past week going to score. Yeah, they 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: was looking for shortcuts to start with. But I think 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: sometimes you've got to find where the glass full approaches 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: to that because Kiri, in my mind, he did in 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. He's done it for a couple of times 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: where he's been the seventh, He's got it in his 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: kit bag, So you're going to be a test on 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: the scene. He players big time. 22 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: Cooper, it's funny, and you said that, let's go back 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: to their attack a little bit. 24 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: It was funny. I see the Rooster's occasion. 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: They get out in the game and their attack gets 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: very floury. As you said sidelined to sideline, that they've 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: got an idea in their head how they want to play, 28 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 2: but it's not really suiting the game, if that makes sense. 29 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: There was a little bit like an example, particularly in 30 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: the second half Torell Mate toyroll Mate. He was standing 31 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: in the middle of the field. Now to in my opinion, 32 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: is a bloke a little bit like Spencer. He just 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: wind him up and let him go. But he found 34 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: himself in the middle of the field trying to playmate 35 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: and just pushing the ball sideways. 36 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 4: And Lindsay Collins out of position. 37 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: They're just a zero thrust of going forward before going sideways. 38 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: And this is a real critical thing. And one of 39 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: the things that I picked up during the game is I 40 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: get this whole notion of ad lib free play, play 41 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: with your eyes, as people say, but sometimes when the 42 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 3: opposition gives you an advantage, structure needs to take over. 43 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: So what I mean by that is Jordan Rapen went 44 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: off with a broken nose, means that Weeks went to the 45 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: fullback and they moved a middle forward edge back rather 46 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: to three in defensive on the red in Simmessani right, 47 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: So you've got to get one on one space for 48 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: Tedesco to do his thing. So move to the right 49 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 3: side of the field, create a normal play where Tedesco 50 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 3: can be the threat, and then when Whitehead goes off 51 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: for twenty minutes, you've got an opportunity that a middle 52 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: forward is going to be standing next to a middle forward, 53 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: and that is the opportunity to go. Okay, the whole 54 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: eyes up approach. It's great, it's cool when it works. 55 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: But you know what, let's move two plays to the 56 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: right hand post and let's get speed and indecision around 57 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: these two guys. So I thought they were frantic to 58 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: start with and never really reset that approach to Okay, 59 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 3: oppositions given us something here. We need to go away 60 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: from this frantic free play and go you know what, 61 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 3: We're going to be a little bit structured here for 62 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 3: the next ten minutes because the team and the oppositions 63 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 3: given us an advantage. 64 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 2: It's funny, Coops, Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Forget about 65 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: all this other stuff. That's our target. That's where we 66 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 2: go set up player there. It's funny with the roosters 67 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: their natural game seems to be the sideways game, and 68 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: it takes them a lot of discipline to sort of 69 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: get back and start to drill the middle. 70 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: Can I make a suggestion that what I do, what I. 71 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: Will to do, you will? But what would you do? Maddie? 72 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: Thank you? And I'm waiting for you to push back 73 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: on this, which I know you will. 74 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: What's this going to be if you've got a situation 75 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: here where look, you're losing Brandon for parts through the middle, 76 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: You've got Sammy Walker who it was he was taking 77 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: over the team, so you need to play a little 78 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: bit different. I think if they try to play too 79 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: structured and a little bit too sideways, nothing's going to happen. 80 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: I would actually I'd put Joey Marno at six. I'd 81 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: put Kiriy at seven. I'd either put sand in Smith 82 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: or doctor clay in at nine. I would keep kind 83 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: of Watson at fourteen and bring him onto the field. 84 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: I think the best avenue for them to beat the 85 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: top teams is Manu and Tedesco just one two punch 86 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: through the middle. 87 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 88 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: Look, I'm not sure what they'll do, but from my position, 89 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 3: I think Luke Keery's got it. Luke Keirry has got that. 90 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: We've spoken about. You know, some of the great halfbacks 91 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 3: have spirit, They've got presents. 92 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: Yep. 93 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 4: Luke Keary's got that at the Roosters. 94 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: So give him the responsibility of running the side and 95 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: letting the other guys fall into place as opposed to 96 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: trying to be a bit at ying and yang and 97 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: work through it. At the end of the day, you're 98 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: missing some top line players. Get talent in the team 99 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: and work out everything else around it. But the key 100 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: players to the Roosters will always still be the same. 101 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: It's the leadership of Tedesco, Kiri har Graves when he 102 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 3: comes back. But they can't sidestep any challenges ahead. They've 103 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 3: already got a poor record against Melbourne and Penrith. What 104 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 3: was probably going to be at home final against maybe 105 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: Penrith is now potentially going to be an away final 106 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: against Bennerth. So going to stare it in the face 107 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: and take it on right. 108 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: What we're going to do in the week's lead up 109 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: to the Grand Final, We're going to pull the sheets 110 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: back on some keys. 111 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: My podcast. We're doing it. 112 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: I know what you do when you pull the sheets back, 113 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 3: you listen, listen. 114 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about the dogs. 115 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about where they are, but what 116 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 2: they have done to get them in this position. You 117 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: know why they've improved out of right now the lost 118 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 2: versus manly. Top teams suffer surprise losses going in the final. 119 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: It's not a big one. 120 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: I mean a couple of weeks ago, the dragon's knocked 121 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 2: over the storm. 122 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: It just happens. 123 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: But the style of football coops, tell me, what do 124 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: you think? What what has got them? What has been 125 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: responsible this dramatic improvement? 126 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 3: Real number one defensive way have gone from being the 127 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: worst to the best. That is a huge jump in 128 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 3: points allowed to the opposition, which gives you an opportunity 129 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: to win every football game you're in. In terms of 130 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 3: their attack, I like the fact that they've not got 131 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: how can I say this skill or high end talent 132 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 3: into trying to fix it. They've just gone with character 133 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 3: and reliable players. They've got footwork, they've got smaller bodies, 134 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 3: but then they go to the fringes and their fringes 135 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: are probably bigger bodies. You mean, they've got Crichton and 136 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 3: Jerry got kick out there as well. So what they 137 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: do is got a lot of footwork, dynamic through the middle, 138 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: and then they've got the big bodies as a threat 139 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: on the outside and they've put a good balance together. 140 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: They're not straight up and down the middle third of 141 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: the field with smaller bodies. They move the ball sideways 142 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: a little bit. They do the old you know, we 143 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 3: talk about gaining momentum before we shift. They probably do 144 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 3: a little bit of shift to gain momentum if that 145 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 3: makes it well. 146 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: It's funny that I said last week side that they 147 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: remind me most about and a little bit so the 148 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 2: way that chain passed through the middle and high IQ 149 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: middleman is the Tigers in two thousand and five, just that, 150 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: you know, just just a little bit of a different 151 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: way of playing for the forwards. And you know there 152 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: was little things. You know, they were very good young 153 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: blace that were scanned do a little bit of short ballplaying. 154 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: Of course Toddy Payton was a main state. But you know, 155 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 2: you think about the Tigers and you always think about 156 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: how they played sidelines to sideline, but it was very 157 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: much this that high IQ short passing chain passing that 158 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: brought him a lot of results and. 159 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: What they did with their middle forwards, not the biggest 160 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: middle forwards a. 161 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 4: Bit like the Dogs. So they're not going to ram 162 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 4: down the front door. 163 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: But what they did their big bodies got into contact, 164 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: got down, play the ball quick. Any ballplayer can play 165 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: for quick play the ball. That is gold standard, and 166 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: I think the Dogs have been doing that. 167 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: So you see they're like, I'll tell you what, Jiz, 168 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: he's going to be a lot. He's a lost k Kurkman, 169 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: a real loss. Kurt was at Newcastle. He was always 170 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: betwixt and between what he wanted to do. He sort 171 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: of had scattered folks. 172 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 3: We were talking about footy IQ that play the Kurtman 173 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: knows his target defender and he got there perfect the 174 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: same as then using kickout up as the threat condense 175 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: defenders and the space out of the back. Think that 176 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: was Sam and the ball played then. So their ballplayers 177 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: are pretty switched on in terms of which defenders they 178 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: need to get to. A big body, straight through, hard 179 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: to handle on the fringes coops. 180 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: Right up, he just said something there, Right, Let's talk 181 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: about their defense for one second, and you're right. You know, 182 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: going forward in the game, the middle of the field 183 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: is so fast now and it's so hard for a 184 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,359 Speaker 2: defensive side once the role starts to get any ascendency. 185 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 2: If you've got really big forwards in the middle of 186 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: the field, or one too many big forwards, oftentimes they're 187 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 2: the third man that's got to get back. 188 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: Ye. 189 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: I mean that takes a big toll. 190 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: I was told at Souse when Wayne coached Souse and 191 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: they had the real big body, Tom Burgess in the pack. 192 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: Whenever Tom was involved in a three man tackle, regardless 193 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: of where he was, they said, don't send Tom back. 194 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: Because his athleticism doesn't get him back to the line 195 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 3: to fill the line, make it thicker. 196 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: And you can't get up. Whereas the dogs complete opposite. 197 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: Right, yep, get backwards and forwards really quick. 198 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: You got morn Reid, Kurtman, Samonger's names off the top 199 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 3: of my head that have the ability and athleticism to 200 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: get back to that third line come up and feel 201 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: so no one's ever not in the line one of 202 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: the things. And I really love what the dogs have 203 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: done their desperation defensively, statistics show up, but the alarming 204 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: thing for me is they missed the most amount of 205 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: tackles in the comp right. What most mistackles lead to 206 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 3: is quick play the balls. What most mistackles lead to 207 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: is line breaks. And there was a couple of tries 208 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: on the weekend, Turbo's first try where a lot of 209 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: mistackles led to quick ruck which meant to fatigue and 210 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: retreating defense, which made a good team capitalize. 211 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 4: On the mistackle. 212 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 2: And you're right, Coop, so what it was, even though 213 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: they've missed a lot of tackles through the season, they're 214 00:09:58,640 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: not and I think we spoke about this. 215 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: They're not bad, Missus. 216 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: They're they're there, but still miss get up. Whereas on 217 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: the weekend sometimes I caught on their heels and they're 218 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 2: driving through. Like, I'm not alarmed by what happened the 219 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: other night, because you know, there's strength of weaknesses in 220 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: both sides, and all sides have got strength of weaknesses. 221 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: And what we saw the other night is the big 222 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: pack versus the smaller pack. And probably what happened was 223 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: the Dogs did not dictate the terms of the fight 224 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: and make it their style. Now you know, they got 225 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: beat up, the big pack beat the smaller guys. But 226 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: if they went out and played tomorrow, you don't know, 227 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: the Dogs might play a style of football that brings 228 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: them into the fight and they might knock them over, 229 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: so the loss doesn't really worry. 230 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 3: I'm with you on that one. I'm not saying that 231 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: they're zero chance now. Off the back of that, I 232 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: still believe that they've got the game style to win 233 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 3: Week one of the finals potentially do some damage. Off 234 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: the back of that one thing, I was sort of 235 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 3: disappointed in a little bit of the Bulldogs and it's 236 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 3: one of the things that I'll have to handle on 237 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 3: a Week one of the finals is big, home, crowded, 238 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: a core. There was a lot of reasons to play well. 239 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 3: They'd been up for a long period of time playing 240 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 3: against Manly. 241 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 4: A lot of talk. 242 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 3: We've spoken about this before, the experience of big games 243 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: in their team. If you just dial it back a 244 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: little bit or redline too much, you're probably going to 245 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 3: miss your sweet spot. So that might be a lesson 246 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: for Cameron Sireldo to talk about. 247 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: Let's have listened to a couple of things now, myself 248 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: and Cooper John's interviewed Cameron. 249 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 4: Coober Yeah for second favorite son. 250 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: We interviewed Cameron Serrauld at the start of last week, 251 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: and the question I asked him is the style of 252 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: football you're playing? Did you have are you playing that 253 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: style of football because of the guys you found you recruited, 254 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: or did you have in mind how you wanted to 255 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: play and then got those guys just listen to what 256 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: he had to say. 257 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 5: I think we truly found our style until probably six 258 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 5: weeks ago. I think there was a lot of try 259 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 5: and trial and error for the first probably nineteen rounds. 260 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: Some things worked, some didn't. 261 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 5: Then we were able to have the last buy sort 262 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 5: of sit down and have a look at what was 263 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 5: working and what wasn't. And but we still feel like 264 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 5: there's another couple of levels in us that we'd like 265 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 5: to find over the next few weeks. But obviously with 266 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 5: the way we wanted to place, especially around defense, we 267 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 5: need a guys who are fitting mobile, and our recruitment 268 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 5: strategy was more around character than anything. It was all 269 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 5: about getting good people who want to work hard, but 270 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 5: are also good connectors of people. 271 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: Right up right up now. The other night, let's show 272 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: one more clipman seat. The other night, the big loss. 273 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: Let's not forget the fact that they didn't have Kurt Man, 274 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: that he won't return, so he's gone. But Stephen Crichton, 275 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 2: who is so important to decide what a loss that is, because, 276 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 2: as we know, when you're sitting in the dressing room 277 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: and you look over and you've got Stephen Crichton, we're 278 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: a player like him pulling these boots on, you go okay, 279 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: We're going to be okay. Particularly the importance that he 280 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: is to that team. 281 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 3: Don't care how old Stephen Kricht is. This is a 282 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: guy that's one three in a row. And if I'm 283 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: an inexperienced dogs player, I'm looking at him saying, okay, 284 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 3: how do I deal with this next period of time? 285 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 3: That's a bit, That's right, That's exactly what I'd be 286 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 3: asking him. 287 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 4: So his present. 288 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: And it didn't deflate the balloon, but it definitely came 289 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: back a little bit and everyone got a little bit 290 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 3: I don't know, anxious or whatever. 291 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 2: Well slightly yeah, Well, let's have a listening to Cameron 292 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: s Frald. I had to say about Stephen Crichton. 293 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 5: The moment he walked in the doors of Belmore, there 294 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 5: was a different Stephen Crichton, the one I'd left at Penrith. 295 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 5: His first week, Stephen was into an army camp and 296 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 5: the way he walked into that army camp and just 297 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 5: took hold of the team. We're all sitting there going, hold, 298 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 5: oly shit, this is incredible. But then for the six 299 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 5: weeks after that back of training, he just led. People 300 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 5: followed him so and the guys around that, like Reading 301 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 5: Bird especially, have been so supportive of him. He's just 302 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 5: a winner, like he understands what winning looks like. He 303 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 5: turns up wanting to win every day and his preparation 304 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 5: feeds into that. And the scary thing he's only twenty 305 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 5: three and he's never going to stop having that hunger 306 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 5: to win. 307 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: Now, Coops, let's. 308 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: Go from a well a leader who's really at the 309 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 2: start of his career, only twenty three years of age too. 310 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: Blake who had the fairy tale finished, not the Grand 311 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 2: Final fairy tale finished, but he last possession in rugby 312 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: league double cut out pass for the try Seawan. I 313 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 2: never had the opportunity to play against Sean. What was 314 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: he like to play against? Was he a big chirper 315 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: on the field? No, very quiet. 316 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 3: Didn't really notice him on the field until he did something, 317 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: and sometimes that was a lot of the time that 318 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: he played. I really love Sean came in as a 319 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: genuine touch footy player. His ability to bounce left right, 320 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: evade defenders, skip and jump and avoid contact with ball 321 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: was better than most at his age. But then remember 322 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 3: what he did last year. He became this game managing leader, 323 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 3: sort of spiritual director of the game plan really. 324 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 4: Which he hadn't done for years before. 325 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: So I like that he evolved, and it's very poetic 326 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: that in his last game his first try assist was 327 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: one oh one Sean Johnson where he goes to the 328 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: target defender on a short side four and four, skips, 329 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: jumps of ages, throws the dummy, goes straight through and 330 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: sets up and then his very last touch is all 331 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: on him. He knows exactly what he wants to and 332 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: he gets his look and he just throws his double 333 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: cut out pass that ends up winning the game. 334 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: For honestly, yeah, a tear like a tear, they've really lost. 335 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: It was evidence the other night was Luke Metcalf was 336 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: a huge loss to that team right through the middle 337 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: of the season because he balanced the football team. He 338 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: balanced the creative players, you know, where as he had 339 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: Wade Egan last year and started this year and Sean 340 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: sort of pushing the team around the park and everything. 341 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: Metcalf was just a pure runner. 342 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: He wasn't going to push the ball sideways, he wasn't 343 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: going to step on their toes. And the loss, the 344 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: loss of Metcalf brought brought to Samari Martin under the top. 345 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: He was fantastic, but the combination just didn't work. 346 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: And we spoke about they actually changed their system to 347 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: accommodate Tomatow. Martins then seven, and Sean came back one 348 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: week and played five eight and like it was well done. 349 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: The sh on like tip my cap to him in 350 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: that way that he finished. But if I'm a Warriors fan, 351 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 3: I'm sitting there going, yeah, where's that being? Where's that 352 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 3: play being? Because off the back of up the wires 353 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: and everything, they had a lot of reasons to be 354 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: in the top four, and to be honest, probably should 355 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 3: be playing finals in a couple of weeks time. 356 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: I totally agree with that. 357 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: Right, Sewan Johnson, give us your top five entertainers entertainers of. 358 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 4: The NRAL era, NRL era. 359 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to go I'm going to throw it 360 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: Alf because he's just the greatest of all time in 361 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 3: terms of entertainment. 362 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 4: But he came in a little bit after that. 363 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: Before that, Thurston, the guy that played a lot of 364 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: footy with Slater, was obviously one of the greats. But 365 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 3: I will tell you this one out of the bag. 366 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 3: Chris Sandow right as a halfback. Chris Sandow was pure entertainment. 367 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: He could win or lose you the game with one play, 368 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: like the times you try to go after the biggest 369 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: guy on the field and shoulder charge, get bumped off 370 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 3: and lose, but then you chip and chase from forty 371 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: meters out of his own line, regather kick the ball 372 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 3: down the other end of the field. So entertainment plus 373 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: for him. 374 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: I've gone g I you played a lot of food. 375 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: The only player that I've ever thrown the ball to, 376 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 3: and just started moving down the middle of the field 377 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 3: because I knew eventually he beat three players. 378 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 4: Fen went off, jump over the other one and get. 379 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: Down some of that stuff he did, like he won 380 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: a Clive Churchill Medal at five eight alongside you. But 381 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: they went to South South played center early on the mayment. 382 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: He went back to fallback was house. Everything changed, credible player. 383 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: I've gone Matt Bowen, Maddie Bowen, like was when the 384 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: Cowboys first come into the comp Kube in a few weeks. 385 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: They like they were a struggling team, you know, they're 386 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: always probably in the bottom few, and all of a sudden, 387 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: Maddie Bowen arrives right and you would oftentimes tho were 388 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 2: the late game on a Saturday night, and you'd sit 389 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: up and watch this game purely for Maddi Bowen. 390 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 4: He had. 391 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 3: If there was any young kid looking at how to 392 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: throw a done me and break the line, it's watch 393 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 3: Matt Bown highlights. He throws a dummy. And most players 394 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 3: will slow down when they throw that dummy. He actually 395 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 3: doesn't change place. He throws it elaborately and still accelerates 396 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: through the whole. 397 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 4: That's why you're so dynamic. 398 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 2: What a great shame he wasn't in that side that 399 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: won the Grand Final and we were the Cowboys, absolutely 400 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 2: deserved to be. Benji Marshall, of course, Benji Marshall one 401 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 2: of the great entertainers. You're let's have with this some 402 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: of this stuff with Benji. I mean that you know 403 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: that paramount of that night's just on the loop, pass 404 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: around the back. It was just the thing that sort 405 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 2: of reminded me that this is just ridiculous. 406 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: Bush Gar. 407 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 4: You couldn't do that. 408 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 3: If you try that one hundred times, you'd probably get 409 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: that ride once. 410 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 4: And in a big that. 411 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: Was a finals match, wasn't it was? That was a 412 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 3: huge game. I just remember it being a big game 413 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: and he did not hesitate. And the one thing that 414 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 3: you've got to give a rap to Benji Marshall and 415 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 3: particularly Sean Johnson, but Benji Marshall started. I imagine Sewan 416 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 3: idolized Benji and there is thousands of kids in Australia 417 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 3: and New Zealand that are playing rugby league because of 418 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 3: Benji Marshall and Shawn Johnson. 419 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: We won't show the vision of Billy because we've seen 420 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 2: so much of Billy over the years. He's number two 421 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: and Shawn Johnson and I love the try he's called. 422 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: At Wembley in the World Cup semi England lot they've 423 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: got this game. 424 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: This is on the buzzer foot bang. 425 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 3: So we're in the this is semi final twenty thirteen 426 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: at Wembley. We're playing Fiji in the next semifinal after it. 427 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 3: That was sold out Wembley, sixty thousand people there. England 428 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 3: lost off the back of Sean Johnson doing that on 429 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: the stroke of the full time siren. 430 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 4: Everyone left. 431 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 3: We played Fiji in front of like fifteen thousand people. 432 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 3: That is a moment of international rugby league. 433 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: There just when you I read a book about Wembley 434 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: Stadium once about the greatest mans at Wembley Stadium. Really amazing, 435 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: like the sixty said well sixty six well Cup final 436 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 2: Jeff hurstco was the goal England win the World Cup, 437 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: the pinnacle. But there's there's so many great rugby league 438 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: moments that happened to the year at Wembley and the 439 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: great Champion Challenge Cup finals. 440 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: There's a vision. I'm going to urge people to dig 441 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: this up. 442 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: Get on YouTube, have a thing, type in Don Fox, 443 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: Don Fox, and I just reminded there when you saw 444 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: sure One have to hit that kick to win the game, 445 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 2: Don Fox, I think it might have been Featherston versus Leeds. 446 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 2: I'm getting this completely wrong. Well anyway, what happened was 447 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: they're down by four points, right and they do a 448 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: short kickoff in the rain, Sure kickoff pulls are that 449 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: kick kick kick again and score under the posts. So 450 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: those days three point try. So they're down by one point, 451 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 2: but it's right in front wet weather day, puddles everywhere, 452 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 2: leather ball, Don Fox puts the ball down. As he 453 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: puts the ball down, they announce over the loud speaker 454 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: that the Lance Todd Trophy winners Man of the Match 455 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 2: is Don Fox. And he moves in and misses in front. 456 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: Lee Leeds versus Wakefield. They could be living ten. 457 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: I defined Don Fox's life after it, he throws himself 458 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 2: on the ground and the great airy wearing goes, Oh 459 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 2: the poor lad, the poor And it's one of the 460 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: most awful moments to watch in sports history. 461 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 3: And I think about Sean Johnson just thinking about that, 462 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 3: Like you said, some clutch moments on top of that, 463 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 3: like you've done it for the Warriors, He's done it 464 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 3: for He's now at different stages. When a golden boot, yeah, 465 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 3: hell of a player, Hell of a player. 466 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 4: Dolphins, Uh did you see that coming? Did not? 467 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: Not not to that level. 468 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: We're going to show to Sean Thursday night and tip 469 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: the Dolphins and they got tipped. 470 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: It was it was it was Wayne. It was Wayne. 471 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 2: That's where when when Wayne absolutely has to win a game, 472 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 2: he generally wins it. Hopefully it doesn't happen this week. 473 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: The one thing I love about the Dolphins and Wayne 474 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: and the win on the weekend is that we interviewed 475 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 3: the Dolphins players after the game and he made those changes. 476 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 3: He moved cart out of half, moving to the bench, 477 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 3: and moved a few other players around the field, and 478 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 3: he trained in Brisbane the whole week without that system. 479 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 4: He knew the media we're looking. 480 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: He knew that, Okay, we're just going to play this, 481 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 3: play here, play that there, but really on game day 482 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 3: you'll be playing here, You'll be playing here, and this 483 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 3: is how we're going to do it. And he gets 484 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 3: there on the game and that is hard to do 485 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 3: moving x's and o's around that much. But take Jake 486 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 3: Avarulo from the centers to five eight and don't train 487 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 3: there that way. But this is how we're going to 488 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 3: play because the cameras are watching. And to go out 489 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: and execute that way like that is Wayne Bennett master class. 490 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 2: And the second we're going to show a try that 491 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: hammer sets up for Avrilla. But on Avarrilla, I reckon 492 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 2: there's a reasons he didn't make a public or announce 493 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: it to the team. He did wanted to leak out, 494 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: of course, and all that sort of stuff. But I 495 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: think for Jake Averillo. I think it was basically because 496 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: if he had to tell him on the Tuesday to 497 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: be playing a sixth, can you imagine the. 498 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: Head noise of Avarillo leading in the game. 499 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 2: He'd end up burning that much gas thinking make okay, 500 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 2: I've got to play like a five eight. I do 501 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: this when you spring it on him for the last second, 502 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 2: I just get out there and play. 503 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 4: He made a couple of changes, right. 504 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: He pulled Trey Fuller into fullback, moved Avarilla around, and 505 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 3: moves Hammer from fullback to center. Who are the three 506 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 3: best players on the field. 507 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: Incredible? Yeah, incredible, honestly Yeah. 508 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 3: In a battle of Brisbane to keep your season alive, 509 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 3: Layne Bennett made a change because they knew knew he 510 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 3: had to. And you've got the response out of three 511 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 3: players because if they don't do that, we're talking the 512 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 3: other way around. 513 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: Coops, you know. 514 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 2: And the great thing about the Hammer the other night 515 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: was his ability to roam. He plays center, but he 516 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: played like a times a second fullback. 517 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: You have a look where he comes from. Here there's 518 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: he and Fullard together. 519 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: Set move Yep, he makes the run. 520 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: Bak just appears blind pass. 521 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: Beautiful blind pass from O'Sullivan, Avarillo goes in. 522 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 3: Normally, when they bring this play from the other side 523 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 3: of the field, it's called like a sort of a 524 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 3: jockey or a hang type play. They're trying to get 525 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 3: a defender to rush out on top and then get 526 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 3: him through that gap that the rushing defender would come from. 527 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 3: This time, Rogers from the Brisbane Broncos doesn't rush out. 528 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: So what happens because he's passive, Hamma just hits the accelerator, 529 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 3: gets a one on one and off floats to have realized. 530 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 3: So the play didn't actually unfold the way they thought 531 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: it would, but eventually got the result. 532 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. We have one more look at it 533 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: here right from where he comes from. You I reckon, 534 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: Coops the first couple of steps. 535 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: I reckon. 536 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: They thought that Hammil was going to almost come on 537 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: on the inside a little bit, almost like a like 538 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 2: an inside block. 539 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 3: Should I sALS doing a good job here. 540 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: It's not until the lasts, really the last second, that 541 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: he appears he's going to be on the outside. For 542 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: all intents and purposes, he could be like a little 543 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 2: inside balls. 544 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 3: So the ballplan here at Sullivan gets Peter coup of 545 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 3: the Broncos edge to lean in slightly and that creates 546 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 3: a space there for having to do his thing. So yeah, 547 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 3: good play the play. 548 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 2: Where the Dolphins right our second year. I know at 549 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: the moment your public going, oh, can they get there 550 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: or not? Regardless, it's been an incredible start to their career. 551 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: To be one way, one win away from the finals 552 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: and only your second year, when you're recruiting in age 553 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 2: where there's the talent is thin, he's done a remarkable 554 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,959 Speaker 2: Let's have a second years of expansion. Sides an NRL 555 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: era Cowboys second year seventeenth, Warriors second year eleventh, the 556 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 2: Crushes rest in peace like last, the Perth Reds sixteenth 557 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 2: and Storm. 558 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: This is amazing. 559 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: They win the comp, but to be on the cusper 560 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: make the finals, that's that's a mighty effort. 561 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 3: And another sort of reason why I think Wayne Bennett 562 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 3: made the calls he did is this season, basically in 563 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 3: the two years in the comp, has reflected one another 564 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 3: great start the year entrenched in the top eight, off 565 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 3: the back of origin lose more than win, and he 566 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 3: just didn't want to do it again. So he said, 567 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 3: all right, we're going to move these jigsaw pieces around 568 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 3: and the other thing it does doesn't only put these 569 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 3: three players in different positions. It gives all the other 570 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 3: players and the team going, you know what, actually we 571 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 3: need to change here. 572 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 4: E gives me. 573 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 3: If I'm player of fifteen on the bench, I'm going, oh, 574 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 3: I need to pick my act up here and do 575 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 3: my bit. 576 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: It was almost like he looked at the side and went, 577 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: I've got to mix the salar up here. 578 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: Everyone's just sort of too comfortable. 579 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 3: And then what do you think about this week? It's 580 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 3: funny how it works out right. So the last game 581 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 3: of the last regular season on Sunday afternoon finishes for 582 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 3: eight spot win. It takes it all Dolphins versus the Knights, 583 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 3: with the Dolphins being the Broncos and the Dragons falling 584 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: over like they have like that's that's that's a poor 585 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: lost there for the Dragons. 586 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 4: But the Dolphins got. 587 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: All his cues form forming already up at Newcastle. Get 588 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 2: into the ground. O great, what your heart's going to say, 589 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: but give me your head. Wayne concerns me. I've watched 590 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 2: the Dolphins in the last month or so. They haven't 591 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 2: looked up and I'm looking at Wayne, I'm thinking myself. 592 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: This old bastard is he is he just holding on 593 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 2: holding and he's elevating them late, you know for that final, 594 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 2: you know, elevate pitch. A couple of wins get in 595 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: there and and I'll keep them up because if he 596 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 2: had them up about a month ago, then there's a 597 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 2: fair chance that they go into the finals and they're 598 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: not going to make an impact. It's almost like he's 599 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: only whip pulled the whip out last week and really 600 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: elevated them and along the way knock out the Broncos 601 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: and then two of his old clubs who didn't finish 602 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: on great. 603 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 4: He's got the Knights too, Dragons. I think I think 604 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 4: Wayne is the key for the Dolphins. 605 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: And like I hate saying this because we say it 606 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 3: every time they the Knights, but Kaylas true. If Kaylen 607 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 3: is on and is like ready to say Newcastle on 608 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 3: his back, then I think the Knights can get it done. 609 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: But let's finish with the Panthers just quickly. And look, 610 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: last week we spoke about them how they've started. They 611 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 2: started slow, and they've just been the ground. They started 612 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: much faster, There's no doubt about it. Yo and Leui 613 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 2: really got them going just thinking before. Just watch one 614 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 2: of the tries they scored here, and you know the 615 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: inside balls, inside balls. But there's a thing called the 616 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: play for the play that we're always taught by old 617 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: A b. 618 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: Allen Bell. And what it is. 619 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: If you if you want to do a play for 620 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: the play, if you want to play to the keep going, 621 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: you hit short because the pulls are defender from the outside. 622 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: If you if you want to play back across the grain, 623 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: then if you drop an inside ball, it will pinch 624 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: a defender or two from the other side of the ruck. 625 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: And you see that and all of. 626 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: A sudden, what happens is into the tackle there it 627 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: does and they're just a little bit short, and what happens. 628 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: What happens is they. 629 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: Sort of slide a little bit just to protect the 630 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: three on two on the outside. 631 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: Is that's an example of a nice little play for 632 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: the play. 633 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: The smarts of Isaiah coming to play here, because the 634 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: first two defenders off. 635 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 4: The ruck aren't line speed. 636 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: They're going sideways on Isaiah and the outside defense actually 637 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 3: can press outside in. So what it does is because 638 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 3: he knows he's a passer and the defense does they're 639 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 3: trying to pressure Luai out the back. So what he 640 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 3: does is he takes the advantage, throws the dummy, and 641 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 3: watch the eyes of the South City defenders here completely gone. 642 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 4: Yeah it's a bit like what Tyren Wishart did the 643 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 4: other week. 644 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. 645 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: So when you're throwing a dummy, use the outside guys 646 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 3: as your decoys. Debate, and when you feel like there's 647 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 3: a bit of space in between you and that defender, 648 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: that's normally because their eyes are looking somewhere else. 649 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: That's clever from Isaiah because when you watch him there, 650 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: he he's looked up like a really good really good 651 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: ballplayers can look at the structure of attends look at 652 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: it there and go okay, I know what they're going 653 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: to do here, because you see him go up and 654 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 2: it's he looks out the back for Jerim and then 655 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: throws a dummy. I think he knew exactly what he 656 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: was going to do before the ball hit his hands, because. 657 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: If he was passing out the back, I'm pretty sure 658 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 3: his eyes are engaging on the tonguey more trying to 659 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 3: get his eye contact, but his eyes go out pretty 660 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 3: quickly to lure. 661 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 2: It's going to be an amazing final round the season 662 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: as it's been, it's been a fence. It's been as 663 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: good a season as I've ever seen in the game, 664 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: and it's going to be a great finish. 665 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 4: You've been great too. 666 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: You don't need to say that. 667 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 2: I know