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Speaker 1: Dave hues, Mark Boris Yusy Marco. Well just stay talk mate, mate,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Well you have been like one human headline for six weeks.

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Speaker 1: Well, yes, look I have. I got triggered by the budget,

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Speaker 1: and I must say I really got triggered. So what

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Speaker 1: do you mean, tated?

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Speaker 2: What up such about?

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Speaker 1: Look? Mate, I voted Falbow and I voted on. I

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Speaker 1: like the guy, but then he because he said he

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Speaker 1: wasn't going to change CGT or, which is the main

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Speaker 1: one for me, the negative gearing, I wasn't. I don't

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Speaker 1: negative get property, so I didn't worry me. But the

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Speaker 1: CGT one, I think is was real betrayal of the

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Speaker 1: people and they're all at all. Was because you just

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Speaker 1: shouldn't lie it to that degree. You can't come out

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Speaker 1: after a budget and so this is the biggest change

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Speaker 1: to the tax system in fifty years or whatever he said.

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Speaker 1: And then knowing that you have blatantly lied before the election,

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Speaker 1: which was only thirteen month ago. So yeah, that's me

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Speaker 1: way too much. And I just think, may I one

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Speaker 1: record a million times saying I think it's just stupid.

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Speaker 1: I really think it's stupid.

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Speaker 2: You're obviously a labor vote. You said you voted for him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I grew up in a commission house like Elbow

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Speaker 1: did country Victoria. My dad was a factory worker, my

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Speaker 1: mum was a nurse, and we just always voted labor.

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Speaker 1: You know, even there, there was a lot of good years.

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Speaker 1: The Bob Hawk era was great. You know, he did

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Speaker 1: a great keating. Now I used to like Keating, but

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Speaker 1: I'm bright off him now now I look back and

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Speaker 1: I think what a snake. Well he knifed Bob Hawk

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Speaker 1: he did, and yeah, I think I was the part.

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Speaker 1: I think that was the start of the problem. But

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Speaker 1: I reckon you know, I reckon you really anyway, if.

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Speaker 2: You voted for labor saying the last section, which is

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Speaker 2: only idea, just say thirty now, fourteen months ago. But

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Speaker 2: prior to that, did you vote for Shortened when he

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Speaker 2: was when he lost the election?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I voted label although made I had a Kevin

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Speaker 1: O sevent t shirt on. Yeah. So I've always voted

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Speaker 1: labor in Victoria. As anyone from Victoria would know, COVID

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Speaker 1: was an absolute crazy situation. And I and I'm on

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Speaker 1: the record saying that I thought that Victorian government went

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Speaker 1: way too far, and that the premieer of the day,

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Speaker 1: Dan Andrews, was way too arrogant, and they just wasted

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Speaker 1: so much money and just put Victoria in it in

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Speaker 1: a terrible situation which is getting worse. Victoria is bad

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Speaker 1: at the moment. Economically, it's really bad.

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Speaker 2: He might because I don't come from a drug or

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Speaker 2: businesses down there. But but every time again, and I

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Speaker 2: just said to my people down there, people I talk

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Speaker 2: to all the time, how is it everybody says Victoria's

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Speaker 2: up the shitter, but they keep voting these people in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look mate, I was again I being a labor voter.

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Speaker 1: I think I've had it. There might have been. I

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Speaker 1: mean I was when when the Victorian the current Victorian

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Speaker 1: government got in back in twelve years ago, the first

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Speaker 1: and that billion dollars were sent to an overseas company,

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Speaker 1: because an overseas company the previous government's on of the

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Speaker 1: contract with. And I thought that's crazy. How could you

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Speaker 1: just skip away a billion dollars? But no one seemed

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Speaker 1: why am I the only one you think that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: And so, in my opinion, the Victorian premier of the day,

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Speaker 1: but they should, and so yeah, and then just just

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Speaker 1: kept spending. I spoke recently to a big builder down

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Speaker 1: of last year, and I was, I was, Victoria's had

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Speaker 1: gotten so bad. I was like, I was, I was

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Speaker 1: on a ramp then about Victorian's situation. And this big

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Speaker 1: builder didn't seem to want to go along with it. Well,

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Speaker 1: And then eventually he goes to me, and he was

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Speaker 1: I'm friends with Dan Andrews, and I did not know

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Speaker 1: lot of the infrastructures just not not really usable. I

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Speaker 1: It was meant to cost five billion dollars and took

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Speaker 1: three years. It took three years more than it was

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Speaker 1: It took six years or something like that. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy. And just to keep that tunnel open

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Speaker 1: I don't believe it's use any There's so much of

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Speaker 1: you know, Victoria, I heard, has more car theft then

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Speaker 1: every other state in Australia put together. You know, I

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Speaker 1: saw that statu Look, my car has never been stolen,

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Speaker 1: and so I'm lucky. Possibly, Yeah, there's people, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I'm not fearful, and my children

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Speaker 1: to be. But yeah, I hear a lot of stories

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Speaker 1: and they were very much dismissed by Dan Andrews. I

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Speaker 1: remember when Beck Jard, who's you know, a lovely woman

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Speaker 1: I know my husband better. He's a footballer, footballer, Chris Joe,

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Speaker 1: and she had to go. She said, look what's going

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Speaker 1: very dismissive of her concerns, like, well she knows, she's

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Speaker 1: just an influencer type situation. And it was just the

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Speaker 1: it was just I just didn't like it. I didn't

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Speaker 2: Did you think that sort of led through to the

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Speaker 2: feds too, said that Victorian Labor Party arrogance?

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Speaker 1: You think yes, fed through absolutely. I mean when the

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Speaker 1: and he did. He gave them a line share to.

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Speaker 1: with allegations of massive fraud, like billions and billions of dollars,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, how can you give more money to this

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Speaker 1: situation which is clearly fraught with danger. It was just

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Speaker 1: and you got the Victorian Premier soon Alan saying she's

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Speaker 1: not going to investigate and it's the police job. But

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Speaker 1: it's our money. Of course, it's your job to look

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Speaker 1: And Elbow jumped in, like who runs the johnt is?

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Speaker 1: Do the unions run? Does one union run this country?

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Speaker 1: It's just weird. So I didn't like any of it,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, so it was. And then the budget hit

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Speaker 1: and it was like you've just lied to us, all

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Speaker 1: all of us, and people who just bought a house

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Speaker 1: just before the budget.

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Speaker 2: Especially on the five percent supposit.

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Speaker 1: Anyone you buy a house in good faith, they're not

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Speaker 1: going to change the system. Anyone who knows anything about

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Speaker 1: So of course every property in Australia's worth less money,

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Speaker 1: and you've lied about that repeatedly before the election. You've

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Speaker 1: got you're going to cost people so much money, and

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Speaker 1: you've done it, and so many of and you see

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Speaker 1: that so many of the government members have sold houses

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Speaker 1: before it happened, Like, come on, guys, it's not right.

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Speaker 1: It's so not I can't believe people more people aren't

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Speaker 2: Crazy, Well, for me, it's more confused. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 2: just I'm confounded.

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Speaker 1: We've found it blhy. People aren't as more I come from.

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Speaker 1: Apparently I'm coming across as some sort of loan. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know how anyone who's like every single person

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Speaker 1: million people, I don't know how many people are in

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Speaker 1: what's the Treasury doing saying that housing is going to

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Speaker 1: go up this year? That's insane. I've heard the treasury

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Speaker 1: now is double or triple what it used to be.

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Speaker 1: There's thousands of people working on massive wages, and they're

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Speaker 1: saying the housing is going to go up. No one

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Speaker 2: Year, no one, And it hasn't has gone down.

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Speaker 1: Of course, has gone down. It's gone down because of

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Speaker 1: but I have bought houses before. I know, I know confidence.

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Speaker 1: When you can't trust the government, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: put money somewhere where they can affect it. And that's

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Speaker 1: that's what housing isn't that we just can't trust them.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think it'll go down quite I think

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Speaker 1: it'll go way lower than what they're saying, way lower.

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Speaker 2: But you know, it's funny watch the amount of intensity

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Speaker 2: that you're talking with. It's a shocking line, shocking line

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Speaker 2: and corruption terrible. That's sort of goes against the grain

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Speaker 2: of what a labor party in the working class representative,

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Speaker 2: which is a labor party, the way they should be

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Speaker 2: is that sort of your sensitive such it's awful.

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Speaker 1: Because they virtue signal, right, they're for the little guy.

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Speaker 1: But you can tell, you can see they're not. Everything

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Speaker 1: they're doing is not for the little guy. I believe

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Speaker 1: if you want to affect housing with the negative gearing,

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Speaker 1: all right, I think it's you've got to be honest

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Speaker 1: with the with the elector you have to be before

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Speaker 1: the election. You have to be. I just don't think

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Speaker 1: it's legitimate. But leave it to one side because I'm

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Speaker 1: I've got some property. But Victoria's been a terrible place

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Speaker 1: to invest for a long time. So I mean, I

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Speaker 1: could you know, the capital gains on investment in housing

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Speaker 1: and Victoria doesn't matter because there's been no capital gains

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Speaker 1: in Victoria for ten years.

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Speaker 2: So Victorians are aren't as affected as everyone.

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Speaker 1: Well you know they're poorer, but they're not as effected.

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Speaker 1: But in other states it's a big thing. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's still a big thing in Victoria, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 1: but I just it's just it's been flat for a

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Speaker 1: long time. There's so many boards up around my area

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Speaker 1: before the budget like we're not they weren't getting solved,

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Speaker 1: no one was getting a result at all. And then

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Speaker 1: the budget comes in and you do that. They're never

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Speaker 1: they're not going to get sold for anything like what

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Speaker 1: You know. So those are them my too? That just

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Speaker 1: The billionaires couldn't care that billions are going to be fine.

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Speaker 2: But that's the narrative. That's the thing that is.

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Speaker 2: But how did he They can get away with that narrative?

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Speaker 2: money as a result of change. The couple of gainst tax.

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Speaker 2: But all you young people, who are you earning you know,

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Speaker 2: five thousand bucks, we're going to change your tax races,

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Speaker 2: you know, earn net seven thousand dollars. In other words,

436
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Speaker 2: youre gonna make sure it does it bother you that

437
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Speaker 2: it just gets spent.

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Speaker 1: It just gets spent. And I partly you'd go if

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Speaker 1: they were going to pay off the debt, you'd almost

440
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Speaker 1: be okay, does let's get rid of this debt. We're

441
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Speaker 1: like a trillion dollars in debt. It's like we got

442
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Speaker 1: to get this down, guys. But that's like they've given

443
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Speaker 1: up on ever paying off the debt, which is just

444
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Speaker 1: going to keep everyone poor forever. I mean, I'm thinking

445
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 1: about it a lot. I've got I get obsessive. I'm

446
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Speaker 1: not going to lie, but I reckon the first fifty third.

447
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Speaker 1: I know that hear me out on this one because

448
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Speaker 1: I'm going in a number of rabbit holes.

449
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Speaker 2: But we love rabbit holes, all right.

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Speaker 1: So the minimum wage has gone up recently, and obviously

451
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Speaker 1: you want everyone to have a wage they can live on.

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Speaker 1: That's great, but you know what, who it doesn't affect.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't affect the government because everyone who works for

454
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 1: government is already above minimum Watch the wages in government

455
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Speaker 1: jobs I think fifteen to twenty percent higher than private set.

456
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Speaker 1: That's right, because there's no checks and balances, there's no

457
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Speaker 1: profit loss to worry about. It's just whatever they like.

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Speaker 2: There's not a better did either.

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Speaker 1: It's not competit it's not. And also, obviously you've got

460
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Speaker 1: so many essentric services which probably don't get paid enough.

461
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Speaker 1: But there's a bureaucracy that gets paid way too much

462
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, for not producing anything anyway.

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Speaker 2: That's so the government pressure on them to perform be

464
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Speaker 2: productive because they're not. There's not a boss sitting above

465
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Speaker 2: saying this, and we're going to make profit in this units.

466
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Speaker 2: There's no accountability.

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Speaker 1: There's no accountability. It was fast, I can tell so.

468
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Speaker 1: So anyway, so the minimum wage going up, whatever it

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Speaker 1: went up, doesn't affect the government's the government's funds because

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Speaker 1: they'd already they're already all those people are already above them.

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Speaker 1: In Watch. It affects small businesses, probably mainly and Or

472
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Speaker 1: who are already really struggling. But you know who it helps.

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Speaker 1: It helps the government's profit. It helps their taxes because

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Speaker 1: it maybe tax so they get thirty percent of the

475
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Speaker 1: extra bit that the small businesses have to give their workers.

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Speaker 1: And again I know I want workers to have living wages,

477
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Speaker 1: but of the money that the small business have to

478
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Speaker 1: will give the minimum wage workers, two percent of that

479
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: money goes straight to the government and increase taxes. So

480
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Speaker 1: the government looks like heroes. They look like heroes for

481
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Speaker 1: organizing this pay rise, which again I think they should.

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Speaker 1: People on minim wage deserve a living wage. Obviously, they

483
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Speaker 1: look like heroes the government, and they also get a

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Speaker 1: boost to their coffers. It's a win win for them.

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Speaker 1: But for small businesses, who are already on the on

486
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Speaker 1: the right, on the edge of existence, it will send

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Speaker 1: some of them to the war. I reckon that there

488
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Speaker 1: shouldn't be any tax at all for anyone under fifty

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Speaker 1: two thousand dollars a year. So you're going to earn

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Speaker 1: fifty two thousand dollars a year no tax, you know what.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people get cash anyway, So it's like,

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Speaker 1: and I you know, I'm not against cash, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: so anyone up to fifty two thousand dollars no tax.

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Speaker 1: So and I think and government rain you're spending in

495
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Speaker 1: if that's a problem because you are spending such ridiculous

496
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Speaker 1: sums in other areas that I think that is a

497
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Speaker 1: way to boost the economy and to give people, you know,

498
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Speaker 1: a chance to make their own way, rather than the

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Speaker 1: government taking like twelve thousand of that fifty thousand off them.

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Speaker 1: You know, so in there if they make fifty thousand,

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Speaker 1: now I think you might get forty. If you're luck,

502
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Speaker 1: you may be thirty eight to you after the Medicare

503
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Speaker 1: and stuff. So fifty thousand dollars fifty two thousand dollars, no, yeah,

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Speaker 1: just no tax, no tax.

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Speaker 2: So in other words, you lift the amount of money

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Speaker 2: that you after which you pay tax to fifty two

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Speaker 2: to fifty grand from I think it's like twenty one

508
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Speaker 2: or twenty two thousand at the moment. I've been advocating

509
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Speaker 2: for a long time something similar. I mean, I don't

510
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Speaker 2: see why the government just doesn't do that. Like all

511
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Speaker 2: those people who are struggling. We don't even have to

512
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Speaker 2: worry about wage rises because obviously the uven wage ers,

513
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Speaker 2: because the net amount of money they gain is gone

514
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Speaker 2: up by just by thirty percent. That's a thirty percent increase.

515
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Speaker 2: And guess what the employees are paying more yes.

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Speaker 1: The employees. The employees who are most of them are

517
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Speaker 1: well man according I mean because I travel like doing

518
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Speaker 1: set up comedy and somentimes started these rants on Instagram,

519
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Speaker 1: but it gets connected to Facebook. I don't really look

520
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: on Facebook, so if you send me a message on Facebook,

521
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 1: I'm not reading it. So just because you just remember

522
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: that if you can't do everything, guys, I stick on Instagram.

523
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Speaker 1: If you said me and he's on Instagram, I will.

524
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Speaker 1: And I was spending way too much time with Instagram messages.

525
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: My wife's going to kill me. But yeah, so so

526
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Speaker 1: many businesses are really struggling at the moment, and and

527
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Speaker 1: I just I've never had this in my life. Obviously,

528
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: I've never been this political or this outspoken. But so

529
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: many people every day are saying thanks for speaking for us,

530
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Speaker 1: So because there aren't, they're under a lot of pressure.

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Speaker 2: Who would have ever thought that Dave Hughes, the comedian

532
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Speaker 2: and entertainer would actually start to take a political position.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean as a.

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Speaker 1: I agree you ever think that? No? No, I probably

535
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Speaker 1: dreamed of being PM when I was like twelve. Maybe

536
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Speaker 1: really my ego there was Billy Hughes was a PM

537
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Speaker 1: on one of the first Why do I remember it

538
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Speaker 1: was a famous plan? I think you're doing in the

539
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Speaker 1: first world.

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Speaker 2: Are your parents are life still?

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Speaker 1: No, they're not. They're both pasted.

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Speaker 2: What do you think mom and dad had say?

543
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Speaker 1: Look, they were died in the wood labor voters. But

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Speaker 1: I just I know they would be angry at what

545
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: the government have done, so i'd say that, so, yeah,

546
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: it's time that they can't do what they've done. So,

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Speaker 1: but I can't guarantee that they might not say that,

548
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Speaker 1: but I think they would. So.

549
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Speaker 2: But do you think labor old school labor principles as

550
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Speaker 2: I grew up in a labor family, I grew up

551
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Speaker 2: in the West Sydney. Here in Brazil, labrary, do you

552
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Speaker 2: think labor principles have changed significantly from when we were.

553
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Speaker 1: Well, I think I would say so. I just I

554
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: can't remember this level of deception, so I think it's

555
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: at a nuclear level of level of deception. And I

556
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 1: just look, they're just come across as conn artists to me.

557
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: Now I really distrust them. Again, You've got to remember,

558
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Speaker 1: I'm tempered by the Victorian experience, which has been really bad,

559
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Speaker 1: really bad. So there's an example. The stupid in the

560
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Speaker 1: Victoria my niece. I think, Dan, and you said free, free,

561
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Speaker 1: free UNI for nurses, all right, So and my niece

562
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Speaker 1: took that offer up and did a UNI study as

563
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Speaker 1: a nurse only recently and passed and loved it. And

564
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: my mum was a nurse and they used to before

565
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Speaker 1: my mom passed, she would talk to my niece about

566
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Speaker 1: nursing and it was lovely. And so she's got her

567
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Speaker 1: degree and she loves nursing. There was a time but

568
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: if you got your degree, you'd be able to get

569
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Speaker 1: into a grad position. All of them got grad positions,

570
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: but now they're not. So now they've cut most of

571
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Speaker 1: the grad positions. So there's a cohort of nursing students

572
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Speaker 1: who lord but who were attracted to partly to the

573
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Speaker 1: degree by being free did the degree, like my niece

574
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: fell in love with it, and now they cannot get

575
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Speaker 1: any work, so they can't get a grad position.

576
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: And also but there's no Josh nurses.

577
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Speaker 1: Well they can't even get and this is true. I

578
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: didn't realize. But they can't even get like you can

579
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 1: get on a register to do like emergency nursing. But

580
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: they all want experience, and you got that experience from

581
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: the grad year, but they don't get the grade year

582
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 1: because they've just cut all the places. And there's this

583
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: is the same government who are spending just billions and

584
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Speaker 1: billions on infrastructure work attached to unions and the and

585
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: the and the workers there are getting so much money

586
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: that private sector can't get any workers because they're all

587
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: on this, all on these these infrastructure projects, getting government

588
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: money at such a crazy rate that no privates. It

589
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: was one bloke the other day he said, he's a builder.

590
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: His son, he made his son's a chip, He put

591
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Speaker 1: him through his apprenticeship. He son through his apprenticeship, thought

592
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: he was going to work with him, but his son

593
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: just said, nah, sorry dad, big build The big builds

594
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: offered me three times what you're going to offer me.

595
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: And so now his son's driving the fancy new car

596
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: and his dad's like, I don't blame him, he's the

597
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: money's crazy. So but that's having all the projects, yeah,

598
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: the government projects it it's goment money, it's our money.

599
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: So it's tax payer money. She's going to all these

600
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Speaker 1: And again I don't begrudge any worker getting as much

601
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Speaker 1: money as they can.

602
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: I'm not begrudging where anyone do it but begrudges. It's

603
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 2: tax pay money.

604
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: Tax money. So it comes down to the premier who

605
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: is just allowing this to happen. And then all these

606
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: nursing students who are good nursing and good nurses don't

607
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Speaker 1: get a grad place and so some of them, quite

608
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: a few of them are going to fall out of

609
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 1: the system because it's like, you know, the years will

610
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: go past and where I've got no experience, You've got

611
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: no experience, so you don't get a job, and because

612
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: you you know, so they so it's a vicious cycle

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Speaker 1: for those girls. And I hope my niece doesn't. I

614
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: hope she gets a place somewhere. But it's just she said,

615
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Speaker 1: there's never been happened before where you know, she was

616
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: a reckons that like sixty to seventy percent of their

617
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: graduates didn't get a graduate place because there's just no places.

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Speaker 1: Well because of the government spending money in ridiculous ways.

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Speaker 2: Chris miss always listened to this program. Yeah, the Premier

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Speaker 2: New South walest I may increase.

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Speaker 1: I don't know him well, but I did Rady on

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Speaker 1: Sydney and he came in a few times and I'm like,

623
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Speaker 1: I like the cut of his jib and he said

624
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: something actually last night on I just saw it. His

625
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: Instagram profile popped up and he said he's giving back

626
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: rebates and he said, it's not my it's not my money,

627
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: it's yours, and I'm giving it back. And I just

628
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: haven't had a politicians that for a long time. It's

629
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: he that's acknowledging that it's not his money. And in

630
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: Victoria they go, oh, yeah, we're giving you free public transport.

631
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: We are No, well, we're giving it to ourselves. It's

632
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: not your money. You're not doing anything apart from putting

633
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: us further in debt. It's our money. It's our money

634
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: that you're borrowing. Then we're gonna have to pay back,

635
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: you know, So cut the bullshit, you know. But he

636
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Speaker 1: did that yesterday and I thought, yeah, I think that.

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Speaker 1: I actually did an Instagram and said, maybe there's a

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00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: glimmer of hopeful labor, you know, maybe they'll get me

639
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: back one day. But yeah, I think I don't know

640
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: if he's going to get back in or whatever, but

641
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Speaker 1: I think there could be a chance for him federally

642
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: at some point. Hardly I have so too.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, Christmins Wi gladly welcome all those

644
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Speaker 2: Victorian nurses Interureer Southwest. Let me tell it because we

645
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Speaker 2: have a nurse shortage and you probably get more money

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Speaker 2: if you come up here.

647
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Speaker 1: I will definitely she was taught. My niece was talking

648
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: about going to Darwin. So I'm not sure where she's

649
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: at right now. Perhaps he spoke to her the other day,

650
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: but I'll I'll bring her after this and just see, yeah,

651
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: where she's at. I wanted to blood you have a career,

652
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: you know, and she loves nursing, and I want, you know,

653
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: I want Australian. You know. I don't care where you're from.

654
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: But if you got young women or men who have

655
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: got degrees and have got a passion for nursing, for

656
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: God's sake, I think some of our hostles would.

657
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: Like some, you know, just let's get them in there.

658
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: I can I ask you a question because it's funny, guy.

659
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: I had Albo sitting there before the last election and

660
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: I was doing interview with him. I had I also

661
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: had Darton et cetera. But and and Albo. Tom was

662
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: sorry about how we grew up in the Housing Commission,

663
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: which is like a dreadful story, and his mum had

664
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: bad hands and stuff like the new steps to feed

665
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 2: his mum. And from a moment there, I was not

666
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: feeling sorry for him, but I was empathizing with it.

667
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: And I thought, I actually thought himself, I hadn't really

668
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: met him before. I thought he's actually a likaball bloke.

669
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: I've met him a number of times and always go

670
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: along really well with him.

671
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: So but but but, and I get all that stuff, right,

672
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: I mean, he's likable. But do you think that they've

673
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: taken this all too far? They've actually thought that everyone

674
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: loves us and that we're like when.

675
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: We do whatever the hell we like. They won in

676
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: a landslide, but they won off a lie. Like if

677
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: they had have said what they were going to do

678
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: they top, they might not have won. They might have,

679
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: but if they if they had have taken the risk

680
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: and gone, guys, I think we're going, well, let's tell

681
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: them what we're gonna do and then you still win.

682
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: I'll go. I think it's stupid, but I'm not gonna

683
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: have a level anger I've got. The level of anger

684
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: I've got is just it's next and for the Greens

685
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: to come over the top and add more to it,

686
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: it's not legitimate. So now the Greens are adding that

687
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: you can't do.

688
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: This super fun.

689
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: Now it's like, shut up, mate, this is not legitimate.

690
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: You're not legitimate here. None of this is legitimate. None

691
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: of this was voted on. This is it's like an

692
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: illegal new tax laws because it's just it has no mandate. Anyway,

693
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: that was pathetic because I was trying to get to

694
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: the Greens. I was going, you guys have the power

695
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: to restore integrity into our system. I was putting that

696
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: out publicly, hoping that one of them might cotton onto it.

697
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: I got told Nick McKim as the whip, so get

698
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: to Nick McKim and I didn't get I couldn't get

699
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: hold of him, but I was hitting his page. I

700
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: was direct messaging, go mate, you do me and was

701
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: it was he responding?

702
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: No.

703
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: I don't think he responded, but I was like he

704
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: probably already decided, obviously, but I was late to the party.

705
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 1: But it was like, yeah, I've got businessmen who are

706
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: ringing me and you know who are so as you

707
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: would know it is concerned about what's going on. And

708
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: one guy who's a lovely guy, said I'll bankroll you

709
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: and I said, mate, I don't need to be bankrolled,

710
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: unlike the government. I was disciplined with my money and

711
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: I invested it wisely. I don't need any money. I'm

712
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: not doing this for money, so I'm not. So then

713
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: people go, you're being paid. I'm not being paid at all.

714
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: So as you can see the politics.

715
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: My wife doesn't want me to now, I don't know.

716
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: I love comedy. I actually helped my comedy, to be honest,

717
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: I've got an edge now, which is and so my

718
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: shows are gone really well, the energy energy, it's really

719
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: fired me out. But you know, I've stopped talking. I

720
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: stopped thinking about sport, which is unusual for me.

721
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: Who's your team?

722
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: Well, the weirdly things Carlton Football Club in the AFL,

723
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: who have been they have the worst year where the

724
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: first half of every game we'd be winning and then

725
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: we'd lose every game. It was weird. And now coach

726
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: resigned slash sacked on the I think it was the

727
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: ninth of May. I was talking. I've driven my son

728
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: to his basketball training the other night. I said Google

729
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: when Michael Voss resigned, and he googled and said, I

730
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: think it was ninth of May. I said Google when

731
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: the budget was and he Google's tenth of mate. I

732
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: went from spending most of my time thinking about a

733
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: football club that I have no you know, there's no

734
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: money in that for me either, every moment thinking about them,

735
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: to think in politics the next day. And Carlton have

736
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: not lost a game since one was five in a row,

737
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: and I haven't thought about it at all. When it

738
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: used to be everything to me, Now I'm just completely thinking.

739
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: About Maybe that's the best thing that can happen for cultories,

740
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: you just stop thinking about it.

741
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: I know I was going to message the players and

742
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: say well done, but I don't know, stay away. I'm

743
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: no good there. So yeah, so I'm happy with them

744
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: to win. But yeah, so then I've just I have

745
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: been obsessed since that moment, since the budge I've been said.

746
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: No, it is revealed to me though, I mean, I mean,

747
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: I know who you are. I see some skits and

748
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 2: stuff from you from time to time. I don't necessarily

749
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 2: listen to the TV or the radio that much. What

750
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: has told me about Dave Hughes is that you're really

751
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 2: well informed and you're really quite thoughtful beyond being a comedian.

752
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: Often we just think of comedian as just being funny

753
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: stuff of that and doing their gigs. But you're quite

754
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: thoughtful about all this. And apart from being obsessed by

755
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: which I love, I love obsession. I love being being

756
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 2: obsession obsessed about any topic. But where do you find

757
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: all your stuff out? Like you just gave ten stories

758
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: about ten things you must be following, ten things you

759
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: must have been reading. What do you do?

760
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: I have ideas And here's another idea I have. In

761
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: the last three years, I've just been walking past to

762
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: back in US and thinking, why is there so many

763
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: to back in as Australia now they never used to

764
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: be well? And then I you know what got me

765
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: thinking about that was it was tom Lee, the drama

766
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: from Motley Crue, who he put on in so I

767
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: think of the Instagram or something he put on social media.

768
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: He's been in Melbourne. They'd done like, you know, Marble

769
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: Stadium or something. So he'd done a massive gigs and

770
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: he was buying cigarettes in Melbourne and he put it

771
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: there was like two packaged cigarettes or three packs. There

772
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: was like one hundred and fifty dollars and he put

773
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: it on his He's like, oh my god, I can't

774
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: believe how much people pay for cigarettes in Australia. And

775
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: we're on radio on Sydney at the time and we

776
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: weren't getting that. This was early morning and we were

777
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: not getting a lot of coils early morning. So I

778
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: just went on radio in Sydney and said, how much

779
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: you pay for your cigarettes? With no way. I don't smoke.

780
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: I used to smoke. I get the nicotine addiction. Apparently

781
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: nicktin's very good for you, but not in the delivery

782
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: system involving smoke so that it causes cancer. But I

783
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: get the love of them.

784
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: But even that that just said I don't want to

785
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: just that little description. Yeah right, Yeah, it's very good nicotine,

786
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: but the delivery system of the smoke, because nicotine has

787
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 2: got to be carried into your system, yes, and it has

788
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: been carrying through smoke, which is not good for you.

789
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 2: The way you sort of dismissed yourself at the same

790
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: time that that turn of phrase was really it was

791
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: very I'm actually very I'm surprised and delighted. And but

792
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 2: the fluency, the way you speak, it's quite amazing, the

793
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 2: way you think about things.

794
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: Well, back in the comedian you've got to get to

795
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: the punchline quick like. So you need to you know,

796
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: it's economy of words to get to where you want

797
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: to go, so don't you don't lose the interest of

798
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: the crowd. So I've been doing it for thirty years.

799
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 2: But the word delivery, that's just a very good scientific word.

800
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: But it's a very good word to use. Sorry, I interrupted.

801
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: I started vaping as well about four or five years ago,

802
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: and that was a terrible idea because I got addicted again.

803
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: So I was hiding my vaping from my wife, and

804
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: it was I was doing radio on Sydney but living

805
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: at my family in Melbourne, so I was up here

806
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: a few days a week and it was like it

807
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: was it was a bad situation just because I was

808
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: just it's so moorish. So I ended up quitting that

809
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: and told her about anyway whatever. So I know that

810
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: I know the love of nicotine, and I know if

811
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: you're into it, you've got to find it, and if

812
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: you're addicted, you're gonna you're gonna find it. So but

813
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: we're on radio and I said how much you pay

814
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: for your cigarettes? We the board lit up straight away.

815
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: No one paid more than fifteen dollars. I'm like, what's

816
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: going on? And then that's when I realized, I, hang on,

817
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: there's an illegal cigarette market I didn't know about. And

818
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: then I thought, oh, hang on, that's why there's all

819
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: these tobacconists which are still all open. And I'm like,

820
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: all right, So there's billions of dollars being shipped out

821
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: of this country not taxed, not taxed because it'll be

822
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: all be paying cash. Yeah, of course, so not tax

823
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: So there's buildings that I was probably leaving the country

824
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: in shipping containers which has gone to gone forever, and

825
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: it's coming from all these tobacconists which are in playing sight.

826
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: They're all in the main streets. They're the only two

827
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: businesses that I can see in Australia which have increased

828
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 1: their visibility on main streets in the last twenty years

829
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: is tobacconists, who obviously sell illegal tobacco, and massage centers.

830
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: We know what they sell, so and they are everywhere.

831
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: Both of those businesses, they're the only two businesses I've

832
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: seen rise and none of them. Very little tax are

833
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: being paid. Two poisons, yeah and I get both, don't

834
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 1: get back. I get both, but there's no tax being paid.

835
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: So criminals basically are operating both businesses. I mean not

836
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: everyone obviously, and I want to get sued, but you know,

837
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: I think we all know what I mean. So there

838
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: is money, cash, money leaving this country through those two ways,

839
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: and I'm talking it must be billions and billions of dollars.

840
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: Why aren't our government's going No, no, I see you,

841
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm shutting you down. Yeah, I just I walked. I

842
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: was in Bondi recently and I walked past. I wasn't

843
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: bond I was in the city. I was in Oxford

844
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 1: Street and I walked past the to BAC and I said,

845
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: a sign on it this business has closed for three

846
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: months because of selling illegal tobacco. And I thought, all right,

847
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 1: Chris means has actually got under it. I've never seen

848
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: that sign of Victoria. And so it's closed for three months.

849
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: I thought, are they all closed in the area. Surely

850
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: you can't get illegal cigarettes anywhere near this joint because

851
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: it's play has been raided. The next joint was like

852
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: one hundred meters not the road, walked in fifteen dollar cigarettes,

853
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: just blatant. So this one's been shut, this one up

854
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: the road. And then I heard Then I found out

855
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: that the one is just shut, We'll just open when

856
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 1: it's allowed to and just start selling legal cigarettes again.

857
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 1: So it's just so much money leaving this country. Why

858
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: don't the gunments go?

859
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: All?

860
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: Right? The tax is way too high. People are still

861
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: going to smoke and have that. I saw Pauline Hanson

862
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: talk about it. I don't know if she's wiling my Instagram,

863
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: but I put this on quite a while ago. So

864
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: it's like, that's common sense to go, what are we

865
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: going to do here? There's a problem, let's fix it.

866
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: Why isn't anyone in the government fixing it when so

867
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: much money is spent on wages in our government? So

868
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: so much money.

869
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: As long as if they haven't got enough resources, so

870
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 2: many resources.

871
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: Mate, they're in so much money. Yeah, what are they

872
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: doing all day? I don't know?

873
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: And maybe they collect the tax on that stuff and

874
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: the tax on the income that they're not not just

875
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: the GST but you're right, yeah, the actual income for

876
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 2: the prophecies who were making They probably didn't need to

877
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: make changes to the a couple of gase tacks. They

878
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: left it the way it was.

879
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: It's just crazy why they could. There's so much money

880
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: to be earned lawfully, if anyone in the government would

881
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: do some work and think not just there's so many

882
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: crazy situations. I'm doing a gig at a coal mine recently,

883
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: and I just said how much coal? I said, how much?

884
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: What's that pole of coal work? So it's a big

885
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 1: dust pile. I said, that's probably a couple of billion dollars.

886
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: Where's it going? I said, a lot of this stuff

887
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: goes to Europe? So what's going on? We're not allowed

888
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: to burn it here, but we can sell it and

889
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: they can burn it. That's weird, Like that's just virtue signaling.

890
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: It's one planet. So if you believe that coal kills

891
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: the planet, why are you letting other countries burn it?

892
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 1: Why don't we just burn it? I mean, if you're.

893
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: Say we don't do it, it's virtual here they do it.

894
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: They do it, and then we buy the products.

895
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: Back, We seelback.

896
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: Yes, it's like, what's going on here, guys? This is

897
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: not you're not helping the planet. You might maybe some

898
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: of the un gave your pat in the back, but

899
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous and we are so broke that we need

900
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: to have these conversations.

901
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: Do you think it's stupidity? Or deception.

902
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: It's a bit of both. I think stupidity plays a

903
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: massive part. Like, yes, yes, laziness is the big part

904
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: of it, is what I believe it's laziness. Well, you

905
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: look at this budget. There's just every second day they're going, oh,

906
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: there's a new bo today. There was like we found

907
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: out that Jim charm was on radio this morning saying, yes,

908
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: if if a couple own investment property in both their names,

909
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: if one of them dies, well then it goes back

910
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: in and you've got to pay.

911
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 2: The whole starts over again. In other words, you don't

912
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: get there. You don't get grandfather and a couple against

913
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: tax provisions.

914
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: So a wife or a husband could be grieving the

915
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: suddenly departed partner and then gets slept with a massive

916
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: tax from the government.

917
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: Yes, that's like a death tax. Yes, tax as a

918
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: result of death.

919
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: So Jim Chalmers confirmed that this morning on radio. I

920
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: did a reel about it about ten o'clock because people

921
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: saying to do a real about this, and I'm like,

922
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: all right, sure, and there's so much comedy in it.

923
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous. And then in the afternoon, apparently the

924
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: elbow said no, we're not going to do it anymore.

925
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 2: Changed your mind?

926
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: Yes, they haven't thought about it. Yeah, it's not been

927
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: thought about. They've done these massive changes would affect every

928
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: single person. They haven't thought about it. So done that homework.

929
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: So hre's you?

930
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 2: What do you think then about so called consultation? The

931
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: Senate's inquiry the two days it was ridiculous.

932
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: It was involved all their mates uni students. Not really

933
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: annoyed me and I've been public about this. The only

934
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: business founder they could find to support the changes after

935
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: a few days after the budget was on the front

936
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: of the City Morning Herald and probably the front of

937
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: the Age and other papers as well. And I thought,

938
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: who's this bloke, because I have not seen a business

939
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: person happy with this. His name was Tom Hurt, and

940
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: he's like and I'm going to google this blow see

941
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: what he does. He was at a political consultant who

942
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: used to work in government till recently and then started

943
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: his own political consultancy, business or economics whatever. And I

944
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: looked at all these clients government agencies. So the only

945
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: person they could find to say the tax changers were

946
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 1: good was someone who's always made money from the government

947
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: and is continuing to do that, and that was on

948
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: the front of the Sitting mont Hera. It was ridiculous

949
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: and it was embarrassing for that for that publication to

950
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: have that person on the front. Of course, I mean,

951
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: if I'm making money off the government and that's my

952
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: main source of income, you know, you think I'm going

953
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: to go I don't know. I mean, I but what

954
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: can we get sued? I don't know.

955
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: So you know you're not bagging him, you know, you know, I'm.

956
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: Just saying it just wasn't that. If you can't find

957
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: someone who's actually properly in a private sector, don't put

958
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: them on the front of the paper, mate, because it's

959
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous.

960
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: But why do you think it's nearly like you're alone voice?

961
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been trying my best to be like

962
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of voices.

963
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: People are too ways you're worried people just watching the

964
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: World Cup now And that was me till recently just

965
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: watched sports. See, we watched so much sport in this

966
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: country that everything else just happens.

967
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: But do you think do you think it is because

968
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: people ain't give a shit or we don't understand it,

969
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: or mate?

970
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: I possibly with the CGT and the share market thing

971
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: because I lived it and I was able to acquire

972
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: well from share investing and basically just sitting on shares forever,

973
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 1: which I still do. I'm not a trade at all.

974
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: Sit on a share. I think that's a good company.

975
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: I mean, years ago I saw everyone holding their Apple

976
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: phones and I thought, so sick of they're taking all

977
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: our money. Well, hang on, you can't beat them and

978
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: join them, so bought Apple shares, do you know what

979
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: I mean? So now every time I see someone hold

980
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: an Apple phone, thank you help me in my business.

981
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: But they Albo doesn't understand that's the way to make money.

982
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: He's never done it. He's made all his money off

983
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: the government, just his income. He's clearly never invested in chairs.

984
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: Clearly otherwise he wouldn't have done what he did so

985
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: flippantly and charmers. He's just he's got a political science degree.

986
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: He loves Paul Keating. It is PhD. I'm Paul Keating.

987
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: Paul Keating is the only person I've seen he said, yeah,

988
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: keep going, Jim. They've obviously got some sort of love relationship.

989
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. He's got no idea, no idea, one.

990
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: Of the things I would make a comment of poor

991
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: Kidding as an understand it is that Kidding was one

992
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: of the original proponents proponents of capital gains tax being

993
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: you take your cost space and you add inflation to it.

994
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: But then when Costello came in, Costello got rivet Costello,

995
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 2: that's too complicated. People have to try and work out

996
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: what the CPI is every year and added on. So

997
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: what Cossella did in ninety eight or ninety seven, what

998
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: it was when they got voted in. He just said,

999
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: you know what, from now on, whatever your gain is,

1000
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: you pay tax on half of it. Very simple.

1001
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: So can I stay on Costello, which I'd not give

1002
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: you enough credit the day? And I just read this recently.

1003
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: Australia became debt free just before Kevin. I said, So

1004
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: the guy who halved basically half of the capital gains

1005
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: tax when he first came in, by the end of

1006
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: his time, by the end of his time, we had

1007
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 1: no debt. Yes.

1008
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: So it was the first person ever to talk about

1009
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: into generational inequity. And he said it in two thousand

1010
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: and six. And he said in two thousand and six

1011
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: or five or six, he said, the way to fix

1012
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: intergenerational and nequity. In other words, it's not a Jim

1013
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: Chalmer's invention. It's been talked about twenty years ago. He said,

1014
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: the way to fix it is to make sure that

1015
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: we do not pass on national debt to our children.

1016
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: So thank you sank C. So every time they spend money,

1017
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: I think about my kids having to pay it off.

1018
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: So what because the kids have to pay, because the

1019
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: country has to pay interest. The only way they can

1020
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: afford to pay interests, I've got to get it from

1021
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: tax anyway. And as an interest bill goes up and

1022
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: up and up, I've got to change more tax. So

1023
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: he said, I'm going to do two things. One, I'm

1024
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: going to get rid of the deficits and get rid

1025
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: of our debts. So in two thousand and six or

1026
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: whatever it was, we had no national debts and we're

1027
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: running surpluses. In the first surplus he took out was

1028
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: three or four hundred billion dollars. He put it into

1029
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: them the future Find Future fine. We have never had

1030
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: since him. One dollar contributed to that future fine from

1031
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: any treasure ever since.

1032
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: Mate. I had a Kevin had seven T shirt on

1033
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: the ninety one and Johnny Howe got kicked out of

1034
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: his seat. I was celebrating fade a time machine. I'd

1035
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: go back, because how debt started from that moment he did.

1036
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: You know what I wanted to do. I wanted to

1037
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: google how much it costs to have that summit that

1038
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: Kevin over seven had. Kevin had the summit, we got

1039
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: all these celebrities in to for a gabfest. Well how

1040
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: much that costs? Because I don't think anything was a cheapdbad,

1041
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: you know. I mean Kevin said sorry to the Stolen Generation,

1042
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: and that was great, but I don't know anything else

1043
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 1: he did that was positive, and we just started spending

1044
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: money on drunken sailors, and you know, then the GFC happened.

1045
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: Kevin just said, have all this money, so he just

1046
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: he basically just got I think you're read the Future

1047
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: Fund real quick? Yeah, a real quick.

1048
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: Well, And it's a bit of a shame that we

1049
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 2: talk about intership generation in equity when we're going to

1050
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: pass on to them as massive debt. I mean, my

1051
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: grandkids are going to have to pay off that debt.

1052
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: I think we need to start now, I honestly do.

1053
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: And there's just look another bugbear of mine, which is

1054
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: came across me slowly, but I was like, just everyone

1055
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: I talked to and look, I've got family members who

1056
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: are using the NDIS and you know, and it is

1057
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: in many ways it's great, and it definitely it's good.

1058
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: But the raughting on it is just so off the

1059
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: charts that it has that has really helped send us broke.

1060
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: And I know the Greens want to keep it the

1061
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: way it is, but mate, I'm just You're just hearing

1062
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: stories of Lamborghini's turning up at an NDOS provider parties

1063
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: and it's like, what is going on here? And I

1064
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: was in I was in a park the other day

1065
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 1: and a woman came up to me and she had

1066
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: a she had a woman with dementia with her, and

1067
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, and she was looking after a one on one,

1068
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: which was lovely. The woman with dementias in her early

1069
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: sixties and she's and but she got talking and she said,

1070
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: I am making double what I used to make in

1071
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: daycare doing this, And I said that's good, and then

1072
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: she goes, but I could I could make four times

1073
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: if I it's to the cap. I charged to the cap.

1074
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 1: If you charge to the cap, So there's every cap

1075
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: charged to the cap and she said I felt feel

1076
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: too guilty charging that much money. I'm like, what's going

1077
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: on here? And she's also said that the woman's husband

1078
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: was rich but it's not means tested, and that he's retired,

1079
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: but he just didn't tell them, so there's no oversight

1080
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 1: to the NDUS. And I'm pretty sure it's at least double,

1081
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: if not more than what it was projected to be

1082
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: because no one is looking after that money. It's insane.

1083
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: It's so much money being of course people need good care,

1084
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 1: but there's so much being stolen, basically because the governments

1085
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: don't do their job. They just don't do their job.

1086
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: They think their only job is to get more tax

1087
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: off people and basically disincentifize work where they should actually

1088
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: use the money we pay them every day to do

1089
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: work to save money for the country.

1090
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: They just don't need to make us more wealthy or

1091
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: increase our send of living.

1092
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: The more money we give the government, the poorer we

1093
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: are because their use of our money is disgusting.

1094
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: Well, that was Kerry Packer's famous line.

1095
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: Keep thinking of that. Someone told me that yesterday and

1096
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: I remember it. I actually someone mentioned to me, I said,

1097
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: I do think of it. Why would I give the

1098
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: money to you?

1099
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: You don't spend it very well?

1100
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 1: Yes, and I'd never I thought you fat rich asshole,

1101
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: So I thought at the time, But now I think,

1102
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: oh god, he was right because because.

1103
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 2: Kerry might have been a wait, and he might have

1104
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: been rich, but he was always right. He was smart,

1105
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: he was to the point, and he didn't care who

1106
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: he offended. Yes, And that's why I want to talk

1107
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: to you about. Do you get worried? I mean, look

1108
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: what's happening into Carl at the moment. I mean, I

1109
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: just look, I do get worried about being outspoken. That's

1110
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 2: my point.

1111
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: I've been like, I've had many a pylon so and

1112
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: early on. Yeah, during COVID I had a massive pilon.

1113
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: I would have had now though now not as much. No,

1114
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: because I know a lot of Look, I believe that

1115
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: a lot of the criticism online is paid. I believe,

1116
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure during COVID it was paid.

1117
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: Definitely organized It's all when I was something.

1118
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: It's paid, right, I think it's paid. A lot of

1119
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: the most of the sites have no followers. It's paid. Yeah,

1120
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm being so. I believe my tax paid money, My

1121
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: money is being paid to try to humiliate me. So

1122
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: I get that, and that's.

1123
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: Part of the game.

1124
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, but not cool, not cool. But yeah,

1125
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: but when you know, when you know you're right, you

1126
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: know what I say, when I say something or when

1127
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: I put a real app, I'll have people insult me.

1128
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: You're fat, you're old, you're not funny, or you're ugly,

1129
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: or you know, blah blah blah, you're rich. And I've

1130
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: done jokes that's not alliant an insult, but you know,

1131
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: but I always say to them, yeah, that's all very well,

1132
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: but can you just rebut what I've said? And they

1133
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: never can't. They're never rebutting what I've said. They're just

1134
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: attacking the person. And that's not talk about my argument.

1135
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: You make me think that I'm wrong. You're not going

1136
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: to do that by calling me ugly. You're going to

1137
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: do that by giving me a point that I hadn't

1138
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: thought of. But very, very rarely does it happen. So

1139
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: it's like, and I know I'm doing it for the

1140
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: right reasons. I know I'm doing it for the future

1141
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: of the country, So I'm very confident that I'm doing

1142
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: the right thing, but also partly getting flak online is

1143
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: good for my children to see it because they say,

1144
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: I don't worry about it.

1145
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: Do they watch they read your stuff?

1146
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah they do, and they see all the pylons

1147
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: and that. But and that's you know what. But you

1148
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: know of this under sixteen, you know, off the social media,

1149
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: it's didn't work. By the way, we have. No one's

1150
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: addressed the fact that it has not worked, and there's

1151
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: has said a word about it, but they're still all

1152
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: on the There is still only internet, so there's another

1153
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: waste of how many hundreds of millions. It didn't work,

1154
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: sounded good, didn't work anyways. So but I didn't ever

1155
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: want them to get off thin to Neet. I want

1156
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: my children to know that you are always in control

1157
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: of your own head and no one can get to

1158
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 1: you or if you don't let them. You make every decision.

1159
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: I make every decision about my life. I'm in a

1160
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: good mood because I decided to be in a good mood.

1161
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: If I'm in a bad mood, I've decided that. So

1162
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: I'm controlling my complete reality.

1163
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: No one else is very accountable for yourself.

1164
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm accountable to myself. But also, yeah, so I want

1165
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: my children to be accountable for themselves and not to

1166
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: play the victim. Not to and I want them to

1167
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: stay present as well. If you stay present, you don't

1168
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: have any problems. You stay right now, there's no is sshoes.

1169
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I'm on a rant. But in the

1170
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 1: end of the day, if I'm present in the breathing

1171
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: is winning. If you're breathing, you're winning.

1172
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: So the lowest common nomina, for sure.

1173
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: Everything else is not. So you breathe, you win and

1174
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: so and you're complete control of your reality. You actually

1175
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: do create your own reality. So I'm seeing you now,

1176
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: But that's my perception of you. You don't even know what

1177
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: a perception of you is.

1178
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how you see me now.

1179
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: You're a very handsome man. Don't get me wrong, you too,

1180
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: thank you appreciate that. But yeah, so I'm all for

1181
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: personal accountability. So whatever is said on the internet. I

1182
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: used to be like block them, arrest them, you know

1183
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: now I realized that was my ego. How are your

1184
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: kids seventeen, fifteen, and thirteen?

1185
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the fifteen and thirty year are affected by

1186
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: the social media rules?

1187
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah they Yeah, but they're not because they're still on it.

1188
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: But they're all on it.

1189
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: All their friends would be on it pretty much.

1190
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, they said, they said. I said, now they all

1191
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: and some of them go out, they get blocked, but

1192
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: then they just get back on it. So it just

1193
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: hasn't worked. Yeah, but again I don't care about that

1194
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: because I although I mean I would like them be less.

1195
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about what they I'm just wishing. I

1196
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: wish I didn't stay at the pone as much. You know,

1197
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: we all wish we didn't stan at the phone as much.

1198
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah I do too, Yes, but that but that didn't work.

1199
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 2: But there's part of our life now, so we shouldn't

1200
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: wish what is part of our life. I mean, we're

1201
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 2: not going to change this. It's become sysmise. I mean,

1202
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 2: do you do doom scrolling and all that sort of.

1203
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: Suff God, it's when you're like, when you're you're tired,

1204
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: you're getting bad, especially on them away. So I get

1205
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: in bad and I just have a look for five

1206
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: seconds and then you're like, I've just lost two hours

1207
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: while I should be asleep.

1208
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, five seconds ago important.

1209
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: I've got to get more sleep.

1210
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So can I ask one quick question? May not want

1211
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 2: to comment about it. But what do you think of

1212
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: Pauline at the moment.

1213
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: Look, I I look, I'm not a one nation supporter,

1214
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: but you know, some of some of the us. She

1215
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: says it's simple and it needs to be acted on.

1216
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if she's got enough people to do

1217
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: it properly. I don't. I wish the Liberals would get

1218
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 1: themselves together. I'm a big fan of the Liberal leader

1219
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 1: in Victoria, Jess Wilson.

1220
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: She seems grab but it looks like she hasn't got

1221
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 2: enough behind her.

1222
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 1: I think she'll get across the line down there, do

1223
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: you I do it?

1224
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 2: That's a November election, isn't it.

1225
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't. Even though even though you know,

1226
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: there's so many people paid by the Victorian government to

1227
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: you know, and I get that they've they've spent so

1228
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: much money to stay elected. I just think people are

1229
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,720
Speaker 1: so sick of it down there. Look, if the Victorian

1230
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: con get back in, there'll be there's already a mass

1231
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: exodus from Melbourne or from If they're they get back in,

1232
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: people are going to leave in droves seriously, and Melbourne

1233
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: will start to empty out. People are so sick of it.

1234
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: So I don't know how she could get back in,

1235
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: but there is a concern about where the preference is

1236
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: going to go. They don't even mean candidate's One Nation

1237
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: in Victoria, So I don't know what they're gonna do.

1238
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 2: So it's not that far away as ended late foremost

1239
00:55:58,640 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 2: I know, So.

1240
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not sure how that's gonna work.

1241
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 1: I just hope that somehow the Liberals and One Nation

1242
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: can just work it out. That the labor don't get

1243
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: back in. There's just too much money being stolen, the

1244
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: population is too demoralized. Seriously, they cannot get back in.

1245
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: Do you think that Pauline's messaging is sort of a

1246
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 2: really good indicator of how peeved off Australians are and

1247
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: that they're just will even though Poulin has got really

1248
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 2: got it all put together yet, like in terms of

1249
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 2: policies and the membership and everything, but they're so peeved

1250
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 2: off they'll just go anywhere as an alternative.

1251
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that look to be honest. I think sometimes when

1252
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: you're like you have money, you get disconnected from reality

1253
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: a bit like you know me and you now, as

1254
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: in the problems of the people who don't have money

1255
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,479
Speaker 1: aren't our problems, and the people who don't have money

1256
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,479
Speaker 1: are so annoyed, and I've discovered that they're like, mate,

1257
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: thank you for opening your eyes to all that. I

1258
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: think if you don't have money or much money, and

1259
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: you're getting you know, taxed forty percent of the money

1260
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: you've got, and you're still struggling to pay all your bills,

1261
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: and you see the governments just waste so much money,

1262
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 1: I think it's infuriating.

1263
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: So it's not just the taxes it's wasted.

1264
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: It's it's the combination. Yeah, it's it's the it's knowing

1265
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: your I don't I don't mind. If all my money

1266
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: went to pay off the national debt, I'd be happy,

1267
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: But it doesn't. They just create more bullshit. And the

1268
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: more bullshit they create, they're terrible money managers, terrible ideas people.

1269
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: It just makes everyone poor. So yeah, so I don't

1270
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: know what's going to go on there, but you can

1271
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: understand why the two major parties have been basically sidelined.

1272
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: And you can't understand.

1273
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: You think that there's something in her simplicity for messaging though,

1274
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: and that assistency, yep, because the other party has become

1275
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: too complicated.

1276
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just want to say one thing about

1277
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: because a lot of people I know, so, oh my god,

1278
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: if you vote one nation, you completely racist, right now,

1279
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: That's that's the big thing. But I tell you what,

1280
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of migrants coming up to me going,

1281
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: you're going to vote one nation? I am, you know,

1282
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: like so it's like I imagine they've got a lot

1283
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: of migrants going to vote for them basically, so and

1284
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: that's it's going to be hard for a lot of

1285
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: builder compute you know that's supposedly really racist party has

1286
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: all these migrants writing for them, well, because all.

1287
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 2: Migroans aren't don't know if in the same category I know.

1288
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: To migrant who want my business owners who are migrants

1289
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: are so angry. Yeah, they're angry like everyone is. Everyone's angry,

1290
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: and hard working people are angry, no matter ethnicity or

1291
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: you know, religion or anything else, all demos. They're angry

1292
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: because their life is really expensive for them now and

1293
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: they feel like the government aren't taking it serious.

1294
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: And there's no clear pathway for them to get ahead.

1295
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: No be different. There was like I could see I

1296
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 2: know how I'm going to get there. Yeah, I'm going

1297
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: to buy property. I'm going to say someone in on

1298
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 2: the Cobra gain or whatever the case. All the paths

1299
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: pathways have been closed and it's difficult to get to

1300
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 2: get further ahead. Finally, badness for you today made is

1301
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: that the Senate approved the legislation today. So it's got

1302
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: past Well, Dave, you stop.

1303
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: My wife wants me to, but it depends there's just

1304
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: material keeps coming my way. Oh god, I don't know.

1305
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: I'm in a weird zone because honestly, I've been well

1306
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: known for a long time, but the last month I've

1307
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: had so many people congratulate me, like like I kicked

1308
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: the winning goal.

1309
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to congratulate to you myself, like I know,

1310
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 2: I'm seriously because because someone like you come out of

1311
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: left field unexpectedly. But it's not just that, it's the

1312
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 2: way you've articulated. It's the way you talk about it

1313
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 2: and the consistency of it, and also the passion and

1314
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: like the full passion. And you're not some you know,

1315
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 2: rich guy who went to his fancy school. You know,

1316
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: you come from the right environment. I mean, you can

1317
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 2: actually talk with credibility, so to speak, on the topic

1318
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: not to save and it's not credible, but you come

1319
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 2: with real credibility and you're doing it so well. You're

1320
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: doing a great job, but it is just a shame

1321
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: for it to stop all of a sudden.

1322
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Speaker 1: I think, I think this budget is going to make

1323
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: it a really tough twelve months all longer. But I

1324
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: think I think that's the property market dropping as much

1325
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: as going to drop, I think will rock the economy

1326
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: and there will be less metal will be the state

1327
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: government's gonna have so much less money because the stampduty

1328
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: is going to disappear. In Melbourne, there's no one buying houses.

1329
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,919
Speaker 1: It is dead. I was speaking to a real estate

1330
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: guy today who said, the young people don't want to

1331
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: buy houses. They don't want to do it, so's they've

1332
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: got to. They'll be tied to debt. They've just been

1333
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: put off the whole thing.

1334
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 2: And how's prices going down?

1335
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: They're not helping and they want them. Yeah, but the

1336
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: house next to us is for sale and women next

1337
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: door said are you going to buy? And said no,

1338
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: I don't buying any out. I don't want to buy anybody,

1339
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: even though no, you're tied to something that they can

1340
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: tax you extra at the whim and you're still stuck.

1341
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: It's just no, So I just think it's going to

1342
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: be a really tricky time economically for this country for

1343
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: quite a while. I hope, I hope I'm wrong. And

1344
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: I was chicken little just saying this guy is going

1345
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: to fall in and it hasn't. I hope that's right.

1346
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: I really do. And everyone can go. Look at you,

1347
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: just engine seeking Wanka, nothing happened. We're all as happy

1348
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: as we've ever been. I hope that's true. I want

1349
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: my children to have a great life in a great country,

1350
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: which is his country.

1351
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: Dave huse for treasure, mate, I'm serious.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

1353
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 2: You talk too much, Sensete.

1354
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: Just stop spending, stop wasting your money. Totally