Speaker 1: Guys, I've brought this to your attention a few days back.
Speaker 1: Quantus data for frequent flyers has leaked onto the dark web.
Speaker 2: I saw this. Now, what are they going to have
Speaker 2: of mine?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: Maybe your meal preferences, your seat, your favorite seat.
Speaker 2: She asked for a champagne and the chicken and always
Speaker 2: asked for.
Speaker 1: A second serving, Like things like email addresses, you know
Speaker 1: in some cases addresses. All these important personal details have
Speaker 1: been leaked onto the dark week.
Speaker 5: Can the hack my points because everyone knows conscious points
Speaker 5: like second currency?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Absolutely well to tell us more, tech expert and friend
Speaker 1: of the show, Travelong, Hello, should we be concerned? I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm a frequent flyer, I'm a concus customer.
Speaker 5: I mean you wave the flag for Quantus in the
Speaker 5: reg What do they have of mine?
Speaker 6: You fly more than their pilot's Clinton, They've got They've
Speaker 6: got a lot about you. But the thing is this
Speaker 6: is people who have contacted their call center Basic in
Speaker 6: the last two years, they're the people that have been
Speaker 6: victims here. But they could, as you said, they could
Speaker 6: have anything from your basic detail. So you name your email,
Speaker 6: your frequent fly number, and your points balance through to
Speaker 6: your meal preference.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 6: I know it doesn't sound like that bigger deal, and
Speaker 6: we could joke about it, but the thing is, this
Speaker 6: is now. This is not just a thing that happened.
Speaker 6: This data is now in the hands of scammers. They
Speaker 6: literally have the data. There was gigabytes of data now available.
Speaker 6: They've got it all. So you're going to get emails now,
Speaker 6: you're going to get phone calls, You're going to get
Speaker 6: text messages, and those messages will be far more personalized
Speaker 6: than ever before because they know those little things about you.
Speaker 7: They might take a little bit of info they learn.
Speaker 6: About you from Optis, a little bit from medibank, and
Speaker 6: now a little bit from quantics and whatever the email is.
Speaker 6: Whether it's an email about travel or flights, which is obvious,
Speaker 6: they'll try and trick you into thinking your flights to
Speaker 6: lay click here, update your details, or some random email
Speaker 6: that talks about something about you that feels very personal.
Speaker 7: This must be real because they know that I gluten.
Speaker 6: Free, so you're more likely to click that button.
Speaker 7: That's the trick here, that's the scam.
Speaker 2: Hey, trev.
Speaker 5: When this story popped up, it was it was that
Speaker 5: these hackers or scammers had given Quantus a deadline to
Speaker 5: play to effectively pay a ransom, which Quantus didn't pay.
Speaker 2: What do you think they should have done? Like, I know,
Speaker 2: we can't.
Speaker 5: You can't pay these scammers and hackers, but it is
Speaker 5: a huge compromise of all of our details and it's
Speaker 5: someone has to be responsible for it.
Speaker 7: It's a massive compromise.
Speaker 6: So when we first heard about the hack, it was like, okay,
Speaker 6: it's in the hands of the hackers now, but we
Speaker 6: didn't know if the data would ever be released. And
Speaker 6: as soon as they started talking about ransoms and releasing
Speaker 6: data by a certain data was like, hang on it,
Speaker 6: this is going to happen, and it genuinely happened. So
Speaker 6: unlike in Optus, Optus data was never fully released. You know,
Speaker 6: there's millions of people's data and only ten thousand were
Speaker 6: ever released in this case, as far as we can tell,
Speaker 6: it's all been released now and so it's real. It's
Speaker 6: out there. Connus couldn't pay the ransom. You pay the ransom,
Speaker 6: you start a whole other world of dramas. But the
Speaker 6: Conus needs to be held responsible. The government needs to
Speaker 6: come down so hard on them so that not only
Speaker 6: they regret it and work harder, but every company works
Speaker 6: harder to protect our data.
Speaker 3: So true they were threatening that they or they have
Speaker 3: they posted on the dark Web. The dark web fascinates me.
Speaker 3: I don't know how to get take us yet. You
Speaker 3: have the membership dark reb written all over you.
Speaker 6: So think of it like an alternate Internet. So it
Speaker 6: uses a different browser. You can't get it on Google
Speaker 6: Chrome uses a different browser, and essentially there's no real
Speaker 6: search engine of the dark Web.
Speaker 7: You've got to be in groups. You've got to be in.
Speaker 4: I can't get it on the app.
Speaker 2: Store, so not everyone can access it.
Speaker 7: Look, you can.
Speaker 6: You can download a dark web browser pretty quickly and easily,
Speaker 6: but there's nothing there unless you're so. I was in
Speaker 6: a Telegram group, you know Telegram. It's like what's happened Signal?
Speaker 3: All those things I've heard about.
Speaker 7: It.
Speaker 6: It just communicating with themselves and their followers via Telegram,
Speaker 6: and that's where I got the dark web link, and
Speaker 6: I was able to see what they were purporting to
Speaker 6: release and see the data.
Speaker 7: But again I didn't go counlighting it.
Speaker 1: I don't want what else is on the dark Web.
Speaker 1: If we get access, what do we find?
Speaker 3: What's there? Drugs?
Speaker 7: Film, as well.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's basically a place where you know, if
Speaker 6: it's if it's not suited for general public consumption, or
Speaker 6: it's it's the kind of nefarious thing that you wouldn't
Speaker 6: want Google finding, then it's on the dark Web. You's
Speaker 6: got to remember, as soon as you put something on
Speaker 6: the Internet, Google's able to find it and infiltrate it
Speaker 6: and indexit, search it. So the dark web is not searchable,
Speaker 6: and that's.
Speaker 2: Why I don't want to be a member of the
Speaker 2: dark Web.
Speaker 6: But the biggest thing with this, with Quantus, with everything
Speaker 6: with the dark Web is vigilance. You've just got to
Speaker 6: know that these people aren't out there to prank call you.
Speaker 6: It's not knock and run style. This is they want
Speaker 6: to get your infrom more of information. So be very
Speaker 6: wary of phone calls, text messages and emails that feel
Speaker 6: like they want you to do something, and then ask yourself,
Speaker 6: why why do they want me to click that tre.
Speaker 3: Have you ever come close to being done yourself?
Speaker 6: I don't think so, but I wouldn't rule it out.
Speaker 6: I mean I don't know. Look, I've definitely been a
Speaker 6: part of plenty of hacks. There's a great, great website
Speaker 6: called Have I Been Pooned? It's owned with a P,
Speaker 6: and you type in your email address and it tells
Speaker 6: you every hack you've ever been part of.
Speaker 2: I need to have I Been Honed?
Speaker 7: P w ne E D pooned.
Speaker 6: No, there's no owned, but put a P instead of.
Speaker 3: The O w O any p w n E D
Speaker 3: no O no Jesus Christ dot com.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's very nerdy dot com.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you put in your email address and it
Speaker 6: tells you all the hacks that your email address has
Speaker 6: been linked to. And that means just, let's be honest,
Speaker 6: you've all shared the password from one side to another. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and it'll freak you out.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, hang on, hang on, hang on before
Speaker 3: you drop it.
Speaker 2: By good, I'm doing mine now too.
Speaker 3: Is this part of a hack?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: No, But you know what I mentioned about quantus with
Speaker 6: an injunction the data, the data that qunis has got.
Speaker 6: This is how Troy Hunt, who runs that website, would
Speaker 6: normally add quanas to the list, but he can't.
Speaker 7: He's not legally allowed to.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. We've got to go to a break,
Speaker 3: but let's come back, because I'm watching the reaction of
Speaker 3: these two I think they've been done a couple of times.
Speaker 3: Over Hey, Trevor Long, t Expert Extraordinary, Trevor, we love
Speaker 3: your work mate. You welcome on the show anytime. Thanks
Speaker 3: so much.
Speaker 7: Cheers, see so true.
Speaker 4: Thanks true.
Speaker 3: Right across Melbourne, this is No. Over one hundred. You
Speaker 3: are on the air with Jason Lauren Clints here as well.
Speaker 3: We're just talking to Texpert Extraordinary Trevor Long, regarding this
Speaker 3: latest Quantus data hack.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I feel like we're hearing this in the news a lot,
Speaker 5: like your data has been breached, you've been hacked. You
Speaker 5: get those little iPhone notifications sometimes, do you ever get
Speaker 5: that same you may have been in a scammer hat and.
Speaker 4: Put to this incredible website.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called have I Been Poned?
Speaker 5: I've never heard of it spelled pw ne D And
Speaker 5: you go on it and then you type in your
Speaker 5: email and it tells you how many scams you've been.
Speaker 1: Now our shock was data breach audible Like we both gasped, and.
Speaker 3: It's I've just put mine worry zero data breaches.
Speaker 2: Zero data breaches. That's why I was like you and
Speaker 2: I got.
Speaker 4: Eight data breaches.
Speaker 1: Of course it's you, okay, So I've got Luxotica in
Speaker 1: March twenty twenty one, the world's largest eyewear company. They
Speaker 1: actually owned Sunglass hut right, you might recall, so their
Speaker 1: entire entire database was breached. So email address, gender names,
Speaker 1: phone numbers, physical addresses, and then ox Fam ox Fam
Speaker 1: Australia real victim of a data breach, email dress, bank
Speaker 1: account numbers, whoa partial credit card data payment histories?
Speaker 2: When was that?
Speaker 4: Does it say it goes twenty twenty one?
Speaker 3: Also, God, you haven't been big to charity since twenty
Speaker 3: twenty one?
Speaker 2: Have you donated to Oxfam? And mine didn't say it
Speaker 2: was breach?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 3: You know my other email address is your own data breaches?
Speaker 2: What's your other email address?
Speaker 3: Sometimes you've got two?
Speaker 2: What have you got? Big boy sixty nine? Hotmail? Going on?
Speaker 7: Geez?
Speaker 4: Is that concerning what it is?
Speaker 3: Now? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Let me check my old hotmail address.
Speaker 3: That is sugar Lips. I'm the score.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's me, my bank account. I've had
Speaker 1: that bank account forever. You don't like you don't like
Speaker 1: charge change?
Speaker 3: Is it your dollar?
Speaker 5: Might want.
Speaker 4: Usually credit card data?
Speaker 1: So, like Trev told us, they're basically it's little pieces
Speaker 1: of the puzzle and drag the pieces of the puzzle together.
Speaker 4: That's when they get.
Speaker 5: Guys, my old my my hotmail address, which I don't
Speaker 5: access anymore, but some things still go there. In twenty
Speaker 5: twenty one, Twitter, my details were breached, name, email address,
Speaker 5: social media.
Speaker 2: Profile, my heritage. I didn't even know i'd done that.
Speaker 2: I still don't know where.
Speaker 3: I'm from, what my heritage like one of those.
Speaker 4: You're from Glenarris.
Speaker 2: Originally.
Speaker 5: And in two thousand and eight, guys, heaven help whoever's
Speaker 5: got access to this?
Speaker 2: My MySpace was breached?
Speaker 4: No, not your top friends.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, my top twelve friends and my.
Speaker 5: Rock mills playing in the background.
Speaker 2: I loved.
Speaker 3: If you want to look this website up again, it's
Speaker 3: called have I Been Poned?
Speaker 2: P w n ed dot com. Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 5: And you can also get yourself notified if you if
Speaker 5: there is a data breach with your data.
Speaker 3: It's worth checking. Yeah, one hundred percent do it. Yeah
Speaker 3: you're going to go change your bank count now?
Speaker 7: Probably not.
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