Speaker 1: Coeps.
Speaker 2: Everyone's had the same as state of origin. We will
Speaker 2: hear looking at the game, we always look at little things,
Speaker 2: which is symbolic of the game itself. I reckon the
Speaker 2: first set from New South Wales is probably symbolic coming
Speaker 2: out of trouble and one of the back three, Zach
Speaker 2: Lomacs bit of footwork punches through and they just marched
Speaker 2: down the field. That was almost the tail of the tape.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I totally agree.
Speaker 3: When you play at Sunkle, particularly game one, the Queensland
Speaker 3: Jersey almost needs to bring the crowd into the contest,
Speaker 3: and the way you do that is through line speed.
Speaker 3: In your first three tackles, Lomax stops that crowd slightly
Speaker 3: by running over and through Harry Grant.
Speaker 1: And then this carry here was a thing that changes.
Speaker 3: I think finds Cherry Evans gets through his front and
Speaker 3: there's just a sense now that Queen's there on the
Speaker 3: back foot. Is only thirty seconds in the game. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I think the intensity of the crowd having friends
Speaker 3: there sort of said it just sort of got sapped out.
Speaker 3: So the start that New South Wales provided through this
Speaker 3: set showed the direction they were going to go, And
Speaker 3: I thought one thing the Queen that lacked was the
Speaker 3: leg speed and line speed defensively.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you just see that there. You know, it's amazing.
Speaker 2: You know we always talked about game of inters and
Speaker 2: that yardish is exactly that. You know they're coming together.
Speaker 2: Does New South Wales just push push that extra half
Speaker 2: meter or to Coeensland when and you see that at
Speaker 2: the back into that set what momentum does and a
Speaker 2: team then has to defend on their heels and depending
Speaker 2: on your heels, invariably you start making legs, tackles and
Speaker 2: things like that, and it just just multiplied. When we
Speaker 2: said last week, you know, in those really tight games
Speaker 2: and you know this coop as you know Bloke who
Speaker 2: was in charge of the attacking kicks and all the
Speaker 2: sides you played in, is that when a team is
Speaker 2: regularly in position for an attacking kick consistently near the
Speaker 2: team that's in control. And I think in the first
Speaker 2: ten minutes, I think Nathan had three attacking kicks. So
Speaker 2: it just showed you the dominance and yard each.
Speaker 3: And the other thing that will also pop the balloon
Speaker 3: a little bit for Queens and was I think Carrigan
Speaker 3: and Tino gave away a penalty like a little bit
Speaker 3: of high contact or just something that was look you
Speaker 3: could say to a gig could get away with it
Speaker 3: in Origin, but it just allowed New South Wales to
Speaker 3: get out.
Speaker 1: Because when you want the.
Speaker 3: Crowd on your side, when you want to bring that
Speaker 3: intensity aggression, the yardage line speed defensively is where you
Speaker 3: get it. And I thought New South Wales set the
Speaker 3: game up through to all.
Speaker 1: Lomax and paint ass. Yeah, Lomas pain ass.
Speaker 3: Then Nathan and Mitch Moses kick the ball where they
Speaker 3: wanted toez.
Speaker 2: Nathan's running game was good and that's crucial. That's crucial
Speaker 2: to Nathan because you know, for people to understand this,
Speaker 2: if you're if you're a playmaker, if you can start
Speaker 2: the game really attacking the line with your running game,
Speaker 2: then suddenly you've got they've got to be all they
Speaker 2: have to account for you and your run threat makes
Speaker 2: you a better ballplayer.
Speaker 3: I like that one from dummy half. You don't often
Speaker 3: see a half back from a kick return run from
Speaker 3: dummy half. It just shows that his mindset is I'm
Speaker 3: taking this game one and on the other side like
Speaker 3: this is really setting up his ball playing for later
Speaker 3: on the game. He did a good job for Stephen
Speaker 3: Crichton at one stage is they're setting up a try
Speaker 3: for Lomax.
Speaker 2: And that one that's the reward for the running in
Speaker 2: the fact that he feigns like I'm going to run
Speaker 2: and they squeeze.
Speaker 3: And Cherry Evans comes out of line, doesn't stop Moses,
Speaker 3: and that ends up being the difference for Toler to
Speaker 3: put that down.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen him do it as much this year, Nathan,
Speaker 2: but Coops. One of the things I love with Nathan
Speaker 2: is sometimes you'll get the ball and he'll actually pretend
Speaker 2: to be lost. You know, he'll get there, he'll go
Speaker 2: to the line, he'll slow and it's just all the
Speaker 2: conw and then you get back into two hands and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he used to do that sort of sometimes if
Speaker 3: you're having a center on the outball, like you stop
Speaker 3: as if the defense will stop, and then you catch
Speaker 3: them out with the slick pass.
Speaker 2: Coops talking about Queensland and little moments, the moment that
Speaker 2: I thought, now the game's lost for Queensland. It was
Speaker 2: fourteen six New South Wales Queensland. About twenty minutes ago.
Speaker 2: They're on the attack. It was a really poor set
Speaker 2: of six and I thought that this that set was
Speaker 2: probably symbolic of Queensland. And then months he rushed to
Speaker 2: kick off his left foot at Lomax. I think he
Speaker 2: diffuses it and all of a sudden New South Wales
Speaker 2: has got the penalty and at that point you really
Speaker 2: see that the air went out of the stadium.
Speaker 3: And when people put their hands up in the airlight,
Speaker 3: they don't know what's going on. That comes down to
Speaker 3: communication and that comes down to Munster and Cherry evens
Speaker 3: that kick there was a threatening kick, but Lomax was
Speaker 3: just on and they didn't have any continuity in the
Speaker 3: way they went. There was another set where they just
Speaker 3: scored after Xavier Coats and they ran the ball. If
Speaker 3: that scrum and Valentine Holmes got taken home to touch.
Speaker 3: I thought that was another turning point, like you don't
Speaker 3: get many opportunities in Origin and when you take it,
Speaker 3: you got to score points. And that ended up being
Speaker 3: a different big time.
Speaker 2: Coops the Queensland. There was a period in the first
Speaker 2: half we I thought queens looked really good going to
Speaker 2: the right, going to the right, and they were attacking
Speaker 2: the combination of Latrell and they were disconnected. You can
Speaker 2: see they were trying to work out their formula together
Speaker 2: and they were having a lot of success down that side,
Speaker 2: and then the second half coup the ball went completely
Speaker 2: the other way. I know Billy has a real thing
Speaker 2: with Lomax. He oftentimes attacks down Lomax's side, but it
Speaker 2: was strange. You're given the success you had in their
Speaker 2: first seas.
Speaker 3: This is the run from chair Evans I was referencing
Speaker 3: just before. That was a threatning run. But I think
Speaker 3: that's not necessarily going away from the right hand side.
Speaker 3: I think that's when the game's on the line. Months
Speaker 3: is the dominant voice right Monster would be saying, I
Speaker 3: want the ball, I want the ball on the ball.
Speaker 3: He's just multiple touches because he feels like he could
Speaker 3: do something. But if you analyze that game and you
Speaker 3: just saw a run from Nana on the inside shoulder
Speaker 3: of Latrell, Latrell got beaten on the outside. We're a
Speaker 3: pass from Cherry Evans. If Cherry Evans needs to stand up,
Speaker 3: if he's picked. But you're going to make Latrell make
Speaker 3: multiple decisions in a set, not just one. He'll make
Speaker 3: the right decision, but you need to make him make
Speaker 3: multiple decisions. I think that's an opportunity for Queensland and
Speaker 3: game too. Just find that disconnect slightly.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about the selections for game for game to
Speaker 2: and Perth and a second. But one of the big
Speaker 2: talking points in the game coop, and this is not
Speaker 2: me trying to be a smart ast anywhere, shape or form,
Speaker 2: but where do you stand on the spencer l and
Speaker 2: you kickoff? Which there has been a lot said about it.
Speaker 1: It's chicken on the egg right, look at it. It's
Speaker 1: a great vision.
Speaker 3: Like I love the fact that New South Wales forward
Speaker 3: goes to sun Corp and just wants to roll up
Speaker 3: the crowd.
Speaker 1: Look.
Speaker 3: Sometimes origin is a lot of little things that ends
Speaker 3: up being the result. And one of those little things
Speaker 3: is let's say Spencer, they kicked a spencer off the kickoff.
Speaker 3: Let's say Spencer comes back and skittles three Queensland defenders.
Speaker 3: Who's won that battle?
Speaker 1: Of course, right on the flip side.
Speaker 3: If Queensland go and pick him up and throw him
Speaker 3: six foot under the ground, that's where it sits. And
Speaker 3: Billy has sort of said that it was because Valentine
Speaker 3: Holmes was kicking off. Didn't want to be sure, but
Speaker 3: it's almost like if you're going to take him on,
Speaker 3: cut the snake's heads off and go off from type
Speaker 3: of things.
Speaker 2: So it was a victory. It's a victory for Spencer.
Speaker 3: End up being a little one. But ye if I
Speaker 3: was giving Billy advice, I'd be backing in Patrick Carrigan
Speaker 3: GINO line him up on him and kicked him first.
Speaker 2: TIF Sometimes it sounds stupid, but sometimes the smart things
Speaker 2: not the right thing.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's true.
Speaker 2: Performances.
Speaker 1: But in saying that, would you rather tackle Max Keing
Speaker 1: or Spencer nu.
Speaker 2: Max Kean? I know, w good points, good point performances.
Speaker 1: What's yours to New South Wales?
Speaker 2: Special mention to Mitch Barnett and Lea Martin. I thought
Speaker 2: those two blokes not having given as much credit as
Speaker 2: they deserve. But one point Isaiah. I thought it was
Speaker 2: one of his best ever State of Origin games. And
Speaker 2: he's just an intelligent player to get out there and
Speaker 2: realize that he didn't need to be pushing the ball
Speaker 2: around the park. He got Nathan and you've got Mitchell
Speaker 2: doing that. I thought he was tremendous. Two points to
Speaker 2: Zach Lomax. Coop in the last ten to fifteen years
Speaker 2: have you seen a player in prove as much in
Speaker 2: twelve months as zak Lomax. I can't. I was sitting
Speaker 2: there this morning. I can't think of anyone to.
Speaker 1: Put a Queensland analogy to it.
Speaker 3: It's almost like when Dane gag I first represent Queensland,
Speaker 3: when Valentine Holmes first represented Queensland.
Speaker 1: There's just an.
Speaker 3: Dramatic improvement in players when they either sink or swim
Speaker 3: at origin level, and sometimes when they catch fire, their
Speaker 3: confidence just takes them to another level.
Speaker 1: Zach was outstanding. He was simply outstanding.
Speaker 2: Three points. Of course pain has but also special mess.
Speaker 2: I forgot Reece Robson. Reece Robson. It's the most dangerous
Speaker 2: I've seen him getting out of dummy half.
Speaker 3: Don't often win the game in the first twenty minutes
Speaker 3: of origin, but geez, you can set it up and
Speaker 3: pain Hass through effort, intensity, care factor and all those carries.
Speaker 3: Like if you were to get quite analytical right now,
Speaker 3: pain Haass gets tackled two or three off the kickoff
Speaker 3: and he goes right foot across and he finds a
Speaker 3: soft defender in Cherry Evans. Number one is get up
Speaker 3: in front and don't let him skip.
Speaker 1: Across your three two ones.
Speaker 3: I can't go too far off what you said. I
Speaker 3: thought paying Hars and Lomax were this close from being
Speaker 3: best player on the field. I'm going to give Clary
Speaker 3: a big rap. I thought he was gone. He controlled
Speaker 3: that game, and I love the fact he set up
Speaker 3: that try for Lomax. Stephen Crichton carry the ball the
Speaker 3: set before and ran over the top of Hamisot Tabio fido,
Speaker 3: and then the next set they get back, he goes
Speaker 3: to the same field position, sets up a play, but
Speaker 3: this time Crichton's running the lead runner inside shoulder on
Speaker 3: Hammer and he throws a little double pump and Hammer
Speaker 3: just bites because he's thinks thinking that Krchton's going to
Speaker 3: run out of the top of him, plays out the
Speaker 3: back Edward sets up limacks.
Speaker 1: I thought that was very intelligent.
Speaker 2: There's been a bit of criticism about the game people.
Speaker 2: I think some of it's been the top third. People say, oh,
Speaker 2: it's the worst storaging out they've ever seen. No I
Speaker 2: take exception at that. I reckon Game two could be
Speaker 2: one of the great origins as in New southp I
Speaker 2: have no doubt whatsoever Game two monster be nine out
Speaker 2: of ten, Harry Green will be nine out of ten,
Speaker 2: Dally Cherry Evans and I reckon, I reckon. Billy will
Speaker 2: pick him because, in my opinion, you always give a
Speaker 2: champion an opportunity to redeem himself. I think this will
Speaker 2: be one of the great games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I think they're not going to miss
Speaker 3: the start this time around. And for what it's worth,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of talk like Queensland could win Game
Speaker 3: two with Cherry Evans at halfback and they could win
Speaker 3: it with Tom Dinton. They're both good players and it's
Speaker 3: about what they got wrong in the first game to
Speaker 3: win Game two.
Speaker 1: But if I'm Billy, I'm having.
Speaker 3: A face to face coffee with Daily and I'm asking
Speaker 3: him how do you feel about Game two?
Speaker 1: I'm saying, what does this mean to you? Can you
Speaker 1: deliver for your state this one?
Speaker 3: If I'm Billy and I walk away thinking he's my
Speaker 3: captain halfback, I'm picking him if I feel like he's
Speaker 3: probably not there and hesitant, just a gut feel probably
Speaker 3: going Tom didn't. But there's only one person makes his
Speaker 3: decision and that's Billy, and I would be backing in
Speaker 3: hanging up the queens and Jersey in front of Daily
Speaker 3: one more time and saying have you got it?
Speaker 1: And I think the answer is yes.
Speaker 2: Well I think I think I don't think Billy had
Speaker 2: to ask the question, or he doesn't have to ask you.
Speaker 2: I think the response from Dali against the Broncos the
Speaker 2: other I think it says.
Speaker 1: He was great about the Broncos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me, I don't know. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: you know. I saw them down at Manly on the
Speaker 2: Friday and they're really they're chipper, They're up and about
Speaker 2: and I thought, okay, you know, and I certainly didn't
Speaker 2: expect what happened the following night.
Speaker 3: Well, if you were to put your coaches hat on,
Speaker 3: what what what do you think is holding back to
Speaker 3: Broncos Because we have seen the best of the Broncos
Speaker 3: and we've seen the worst and they're not that bad
Speaker 3: with that talent they've got that.
Speaker 1: They can't be where they are at the moment. So
Speaker 1: if you were coaching, what would you do? What do
Speaker 1: you think the fix is?
Speaker 2: Well, Cooper, I'll state the obvious. Where they're at at
Speaker 2: the moment. I think a lot of its attitude right,
Speaker 2: and the temptation is sometimes you sit there and go
Speaker 2: what are the things we're going to do? And oftentimes
Speaker 2: you always we look at what we're doing with the football.
Speaker 2: If I'm mad je I'm probably sitting there this week
Speaker 2: and pull them a senior players in and say, rah,
Speaker 2: how do we win one nill?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I'm thinking, how do we
Speaker 2: win one nil? How about we do less with the football?
Speaker 2: How about we just get into the grind and we
Speaker 2: just majure on kickchase and you know.
Speaker 3: Because I think what they're trying to do is trying
Speaker 3: to bring in all their weapons and have this great
Speaker 3: play that blows teams out of the water.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're just trying to work for that every time.
Speaker 3: If they get their mindset right defensively, like if I
Speaker 3: do all the hard things that it takes in a
Speaker 3: game of football and we all have that mindset, they
Speaker 3: will win games football. But at the moment, it feels
Speaker 3: like you just do that, get me there and then
Speaker 3: I'm going to set up this big play We're going
Speaker 3: to score on the cor coops.
Speaker 2: I reckon when you go into a game, right, there's
Speaker 2: there's two skills of thought. If we go into a game,
Speaker 2: we say what we're going to do coops. We're going
Speaker 2: to try to win this game fifty No, we're going
Speaker 2: to blame the part. And then alternately you look at
Speaker 2: and say, right A, coops is what going to do.
Speaker 2: We're going to dig in and if we're to win
Speaker 2: this game by one nil, we're going to win one nil.
Speaker 2: I can guarantee you the attitude to win one nil
Speaker 2: you score more points than trying to score fifty.
Speaker 3: And that is a perfect example, because I think if
Speaker 3: they do the two nil mindset, they are a good team.
Speaker 1: They end up probably winning fifty nil.
Speaker 3: That's because it's like we've always said since nineteen o eight,
Speaker 3: if you double down on your defense for some reason,
Speaker 3: helps your attack, but if you're attack minded, it doesn't
Speaker 3: help your defense at all. And it's a big game
Speaker 3: for the Bronx. Yeah, Reynold's three hundred hundred potentially Wolf.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just too good a side. Coops too.
Speaker 1: I feel for I.
Speaker 3: Feel for Payne Arson, Patrick Carrigan a little bit like
Speaker 3: they go out on Wednesday night and they spill everything
Speaker 3: they have for their states, and they came back up
Speaker 3: again and they do it again, and they're just not
Speaker 3: getting the response. I think a bit comes down to
Speaker 3: Adam Reynolds, like just bringing that team together a bit
Speaker 3: like a bit like Fog he has been doing for
Speaker 3: the Raiders. Like the Raiders have a very hard nosed,
Speaker 3: full pack. They've got super exciting outside backs. But the
Speaker 3: key part of that is Jamal Fogue together and I
Speaker 3: think a little bit of.
Speaker 1: Reynolds for that.
Speaker 2: Pain hasse There is talk that he will test the
Speaker 2: open market. Well, he's coming off contract. His managers alerted clubs.
Speaker 2: That's what managed. That's his job.
Speaker 1: There is not a dollar sign that you would not
Speaker 1: give pain us if you're one of the new teams.
Speaker 2: I asked the boys last night, do you reckon Payne?
Speaker 2: Has is a chance with that? You know, we're going
Speaker 2: to see slowy caps starting to come in go up
Speaker 2: as new sites coming in the competition. Doregon needs a
Speaker 2: chance to be in the first two million dollar player.
Speaker 3: Like you could mount a case for it, like right now,
Speaker 3: if you're starting up the new franchise and everyone is available,
Speaker 3: like pain ass is in the conversation with Cameron Munster,
Speaker 3: Kaylin Ponger and Nathan Cleary, like he is right there
Speaker 3: alongside them. He's one of the very few front rowers
Speaker 3: who can win a game. He can win a game
Speaker 3: with the carries in the effort that he does, and
Speaker 3: he's a good example of a pro. Like when you're
Speaker 3: setting up a franchise, it's almost like your first signing
Speaker 3: is the bear of the culture. But the first signing
Speaker 3: is the one through the door that says, Okay, if
Speaker 3: we are going to set up who we are, it's
Speaker 3: because of this guy.
Speaker 2: I mean, Perth Bears, mate, as far as pain is concerned.
Speaker 2: And the other one, Mate, I'm telling you cops, P
Speaker 2: and G. If P and G come into the competition.
Speaker 2: Let's say, for instance, and tax free money, you go
Speaker 2: to paint and say, mate, one point eight tax free.
Speaker 2: It's a lot to think about.
Speaker 1: That include Harve's consultants deal.
Speaker 2: Yes, it does, it does?
Speaker 1: It does?
Speaker 2: I mean Jerry? Now, mate, let's talk about Markey signings
Speaker 2: right owen And the one I want to talk about
Speaker 2: first of all, Cooper's the Melbourne Storm. You're our club
Speaker 2: because I remember I spoke to Chris Anderson about this
Speaker 2: and a lot of my Newcastle mates were in those
Speaker 2: early Melbourne Storm sides, and he said, Chris Andersons said
Speaker 2: to John Rueba when they're putting the looking to put
Speaker 2: the side together. You know, he said, just get me
Speaker 2: a great front rower and a great half back and
Speaker 2: I'll win your comp Laza may get much better than
Speaker 2: that right in the later years, but mate, just presence, intimidation, leadership,
Speaker 2: knows how to win. And Bret Camorley the other early
Speaker 2: in his career, but he's gone that way me and
Speaker 2: mileson now and won it in the second year. And
Speaker 2: the other one that was crucial as well was to
Speaker 2: our Nick out, I mean two hour Nick hou. He brings.
Speaker 2: He brings winning attitude, the blakes of warrior and just
Speaker 2: a motion. I look back, it's such a shame he
Speaker 2: signed with the Knights going into the ninety five season
Speaker 2: and then he was a cow Yeah, Nick, and he
Speaker 2: was over in Castleford and he just wasn't ready for
Speaker 2: the change and we led him out of his contract.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I'd love to play alongside him. What I
Speaker 2: felt now some of the market he signings. Let's go back,
Speaker 2: say we'll start eighty eight and in eighty eight you
Speaker 2: had the Broncos, the Newcastle Knights and the Tweed Seagulls
Speaker 2: which now have eventually evolved into the Gold coast of sorts.
Speaker 2: So the Broncos their markets signing Surprise, Suprise, Wally Lewis.
Speaker 2: I'll talk to Wally. You know it's amazing. Sorry, I
Speaker 2: haven't Madge around a couple of years ago. He told me,
Speaker 2: those unbelievable years at winning, when they're winning everything, he
Speaker 2: basically didn't get a cent he said, I earned, he said,
Speaker 2: those years in the QRL. He said, I just basically
Speaker 2: earned no money through those years. How that can happen,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Towyd's sea goals. They signed Ronnie Gibbs,
Speaker 2: profile and toughness and the Knights. The Knights expend in ure.
Speaker 2: The money they spent in that first year on the
Speaker 2: entire squad was ninety thousand dollars right, and they signed
Speaker 2: Adrian Shelford for Wigan for thirty five. So what they
Speaker 2: did they went around, They hunted around and they just
Speaker 2: signed Blakes with the two series Plenty of Tomorrows and
Speaker 2: tough and the bloke who one of their major signs,
Speaker 2: This major signing with Sammy Stewart, terrific bloke, great ambassador
Speaker 2: of the club. He was the Kiwi captain Gatzi and
Speaker 2: he was tough, the biggest year of expansion was ninety
Speaker 2: five coups and they made the decision ninety two are
Speaker 2: going to bring in the Perth Western reds Auckland Warriors,
Speaker 2: North Queensland Cowboys and the Southeast Queensland Crushes. Western Red
Speaker 2: signed Brad McKay. Brad mckaye was again great ambassador, great
Speaker 2: guy on the field, really quality person, New South Wales
Speaker 2: and Australian Locke winner, experienced Clove Churchill medalists. He brought
Speaker 2: a lot. Warriors brought Brandy you know that. They went
Speaker 2: there and they went after a great Grete seven and
Speaker 2: Greg Alexander again a winner profile. Cowboys went different. Cowboys
Speaker 2: went Larry Spooner. Now Laurie had been a very very
Speaker 2: good player at Cronulla East and he was an in
Speaker 2: isfrail boy and it was almost the connection to the
Speaker 2: community which was important and this is interesting Southeastqueensland Crushes.
Speaker 2: Their big signing was Garrick Morgan. Now Garrick Morgan at
Speaker 2: the time was considered one of the best rugby union
Speaker 2: players in big boy massive, in fact too big as
Speaker 2: it turns out, but he was there. He was there signing.
Speaker 2: Only played a couple of games. As I said, before
Speaker 2: you know, he was just too big for the sport.
Speaker 2: But that that was the signing for them. But they
Speaker 2: just showed the importance and getting that markets signing and
Speaker 2: the first guy.
Speaker 3: And you need to get it right. All the examples
Speaker 3: that you just went through. When you get those first
Speaker 3: few signings right, plants a seed for what comes next.
Speaker 3: If you get it wrong, then there might be some
Speaker 3: challenges down the track.
Speaker 2: I'll give you three and a half a million dollars, right,
Speaker 2: give me the two players you sign.
Speaker 1: Paying ass.
Speaker 3: And you probably you probably need someone with something like
Speaker 3: a I'll probably take months or Klon Pomer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you probably would pretty decent combinations.
Speaker 1: Three thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Well, but let's you know, let's think about that for
Speaker 2: a second. Coops, let's go for the model. I mean
Speaker 2: the Melbourne Storm. You blokes had had that model in
Speaker 2: the fact that you had a few of you blokes
Speaker 2: that were really hot, and then Billy Ak went out
Speaker 2: around you guys and sign blokes like Brian Murray who
Speaker 2: would just do whatever it took and just got the
Speaker 2: job done.
Speaker 3: And that's the person who sets that up because it's
Speaker 3: almost character over talent, right, Like if you if your
Speaker 3: your pillars are front rower, half back, in a fullback
Speaker 3: for example, then everything else in around that needs to
Speaker 3: be character driven, not talent driven, because the talent is
Speaker 3: in the three and they are going to inspire everyone
Speaker 3: else to.
Speaker 1: Do their things. So some big decisions for recruiters and
Speaker 1: players the next two years.
Speaker 2: Lucky Galvin Coop his career as a bulldog has begun.
Speaker 2: I'll ask you a question, right, so he would have
Speaker 2: walked into training today, first date school walking as he's
Speaker 2: about to walk through the gates. What advice would you
Speaker 2: give him?
Speaker 1: Well, my advice would have got to him before he
Speaker 1: walked in the gate. Trains start at six.
Speaker 3: Would have told him to get there at five train
Speaker 3: and finished at six pm when I said leave at seven,
Speaker 3: and I would have told him to go get Terry
Speaker 3: Lamb's number and sit down and have a coffee with
Speaker 3: him and ask him what it means to be a bulldog.
Speaker 3: That's what I would have done, because I don't know Galvin.
Speaker 3: There's so much noise around it. That club has a
Speaker 3: history in a DNA and if there's one thing that
Speaker 3: he needs to do, he needs to understand what the
Speaker 3: bulldogs are. He can bring his talent to, but if
Speaker 3: he doesn't understand what's gone before him and what's expected
Speaker 3: of him in a Blue Bulldog's jersey, that is one
Speaker 3: thing that I would advise him.
Speaker 1: And the other thing too is.
Speaker 3: He needs to almost park his a chair at the
Speaker 3: cafe and just get relationships with the players coming first.
Speaker 3: Don't just go there and start chipping and chasing that
Speaker 3: training Stephen Crichton, Connor Tracy like kick you out, like
Speaker 3: just coffee, have five or six coffees in the first year,
Speaker 3: couple of ours that you're there, and just get that relationship.
Speaker 1: Because the kid can play.
Speaker 3: No one's denying that, but he needs to build relationships
Speaker 3: because if he just comes in expecting to run the
Speaker 3: show with chip and chasers, and I've seen by the
Speaker 3: way that he plays, he doesn't think about the game
Speaker 3: in its context.
Speaker 1: He just thinks about the then and the now.
Speaker 3: So if he comes up with the couple of players
Speaker 3: early on that's in then in the now is not
Speaker 3: the team thing that's questionable.
Speaker 2: Whenever I think of a Bulldogs player coup He's got
Speaker 2: a lot of those attributes. So I think of the
Speaker 2: Bulldogs in the late eighties and into the nineties, guys
Speaker 2: like playing as like Jimmy Dimmick and Chase of Smith
Speaker 2: and Terry Lamb. For me, what a Bulldog's player is
Speaker 2: if you to encapsulate a Bulldogs player and a Bulldogs
Speaker 2: playmaker is that number one is tough. Number two a
Speaker 2: player who is more likely who is more comfortable to
Speaker 2: play shortball or play through a line than around the fence.
Speaker 2: That for me, when I look when I think about
Speaker 2: Bulldogs great playmakers from the Bulldogs, that's the sort of
Speaker 2: player I see.
Speaker 1: And did you do you still think he should start
Speaker 1: on the bench? Look?
Speaker 2: I would, I would. I would ease him in off
Speaker 2: the bench. I would. It would not surprise me if
Speaker 2: bally Hayward plays nine this week, that would not surprise me.
Speaker 2: And they brought him off and he took bally Hayward's
Speaker 2: role and come on as in a fourteen tight role.
Speaker 2: But I I just sit in there. Then. I was
Speaker 2: just thinking about young Jamie Humphries right, and I interviewed
Speaker 2: him about six weeks ago, and I asked him about
Speaker 2: going to South's right, very similar situation. I spos Likey
Speaker 2: Galvin and I said, what was it like walking into
Speaker 2: that training session for the first time. You got Wayne Bennett,
Speaker 2: got Cody, You've got Latrell, You've got Jack White and
Speaker 2: all these big figures. He said, I was terrified, and
Speaker 2: I said, well, right, the first training sets. The really
Speaker 2: important thing is first impressions are so important. Tell me
Speaker 2: that first training session. And it just shows you the
Speaker 2: importance of that first impression in the fact that Jamie
Speaker 2: went in and they said right up with a one
Speaker 2: point four one point five plong the time trial, which
Speaker 2: awakes you. He had a strain to kill his TANDD
Speaker 2: and just went ohn and he said, I felt like
Speaker 2: I was going to tear it, he said, but I
Speaker 2: had no choice. And he said I ran it. I
Speaker 2: ran it well afterwards, like a barely walker, and Way
Speaker 2: went up give him a pat in the back and said,
Speaker 2: well done, Now go get that thing right.
Speaker 3: It's why I just feel like there's something that Lachlan
Speaker 3: Galvin needs to earn, right. There's just something there that
Speaker 3: he is going to be a long term playing out game.
Speaker 3: He will probably play at the Bulldogs for a long time.
Speaker 3: If he's got the work ethic, he could probably play
Speaker 3: seven at some stage in his career.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: But there's something that says to me that he needs
Speaker 3: to earn it, not just arrive on the front door
Speaker 3: and say that's mine because I'm here.
Speaker 1: To collect it.
Speaker 3: And a little bit that I've said that you're playing
Speaker 3: reserve grown that if he balks at that, that's the
Speaker 3: red flag.
Speaker 1: If he says, yep, give it to me, I'll do it.
Speaker 1: I think you're going to be a part of this
Speaker 1: club for a long times. Just a bit of an attitude,
Speaker 1: just trying to suss out where is that coops.
Speaker 2: I don't get. I don't get. I have zero interest
Speaker 2: in the politics of the support boardrooms, executives, player agents.
Speaker 2: It just bores me to tears. Right, what's done is
Speaker 2: done now right, it's happened. The West Tigers golf feel dudded.
Speaker 2: I totally get that the Bulldogs fans will be overjoyed.
Speaker 2: Totally understand that. I don't know Locky well, right, I
Speaker 2: do not know. I only meany he only come onto
Speaker 2: the show once. But I know enough about people to
Speaker 2: know the deep down, he's a good kid and there's
Speaker 2: been people pulling him in every direction in all this,
Speaker 2: and he's just still a young bloke. So I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think they'll have any problem with his attitude
Speaker 2: and whatnot is a little bit cock. Sure, maybe you know,
Speaker 2: but that's what a lot of young guys are.
Speaker 1: It's almost like, what do I need to do for
Speaker 1: the team? What can I do for you? Like those
Speaker 1: questions as opposed to you do this for me, tom Thing,
Speaker 1: go on your cob