1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: Coeps. 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 2: Everyone's had the same as state of origin. We will 3 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 2: hear looking at the game, we always look at little things, 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: which is symbolic of the game itself. I reckon the 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: first set from New South Wales is probably symbolic coming 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: out of trouble and one of the back three, Zach 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: Lomacs bit of footwork punches through and they just marched 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: down the field. That was almost the tail of the tape. 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. I totally agree. 10 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 3: When you play at Sunkle, particularly game one, the Queensland 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 3: Jersey almost needs to bring the crowd into the contest, 12 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 3: and the way you do that is through line speed. 13 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 3: In your first three tackles, Lomax stops that crowd slightly 14 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: by running over and through Harry Grant. 15 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: And then this carry here was a thing that changes. 16 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: I think finds Cherry Evans gets through his front and 17 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 3: there's just a sense now that Queen's there on the 18 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: back foot. Is only thirty seconds in the game. Yeah, 19 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 3: and I think the intensity of the crowd having friends 20 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 3: there sort of said it just sort of got sapped out. 21 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 3: So the start that New South Wales provided through this 22 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: set showed the direction they were going to go, And 23 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: I thought one thing the Queen that lacked was the 24 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: leg speed and line speed defensively. 25 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you just see that there. You know, it's amazing. 26 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: You know we always talked about game of inters and 27 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: that yardish is exactly that. You know they're coming together. 28 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: Does New South Wales just push push that extra half 29 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: meter or to Coeensland when and you see that at 30 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: the back into that set what momentum does and a 31 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: team then has to defend on their heels and depending 32 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: on your heels, invariably you start making legs, tackles and 33 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: things like that, and it just just multiplied. When we 34 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: said last week, you know, in those really tight games 35 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: and you know this coop as you know Bloke who 36 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: was in charge of the attacking kicks and all the 37 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: sides you played in, is that when a team is 38 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: regularly in position for an attacking kick consistently near the 39 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: team that's in control. And I think in the first 40 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: ten minutes, I think Nathan had three attacking kicks. So 41 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: it just showed you the dominance and yard each. 42 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: And the other thing that will also pop the balloon 43 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: a little bit for Queens and was I think Carrigan 44 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: and Tino gave away a penalty like a little bit 45 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: of high contact or just something that was look you 46 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: could say to a gig could get away with it 47 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: in Origin, but it just allowed New South Wales to 48 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: get out. 49 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: Because when you want the. 50 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: Crowd on your side, when you want to bring that 51 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: intensity aggression, the yardage line speed defensively is where you 52 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: get it. And I thought New South Wales set the 53 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: game up through to all. 54 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: Lomax and paint ass. Yeah, Lomas pain ass. 55 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: Then Nathan and Mitch Moses kick the ball where they 56 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: wanted toez. 57 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: Nathan's running game was good and that's crucial. That's crucial 58 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: to Nathan because you know, for people to understand this, 59 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: if you're if you're a playmaker, if you can start 60 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: the game really attacking the line with your running game, 61 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: then suddenly you've got they've got to be all they 62 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: have to account for you and your run threat makes 63 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: you a better ballplayer. 64 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: I like that one from dummy half. You don't often 65 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 3: see a half back from a kick return run from 66 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: dummy half. It just shows that his mindset is I'm 67 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 3: taking this game one and on the other side like 68 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 3: this is really setting up his ball playing for later 69 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: on the game. He did a good job for Stephen 70 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: Crichton at one stage is they're setting up a try 71 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: for Lomax. 72 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: And that one that's the reward for the running in 73 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: the fact that he feigns like I'm going to run 74 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: and they squeeze. 75 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: And Cherry Evans comes out of line, doesn't stop Moses, 76 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 3: and that ends up being the difference for Toler to 77 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: put that down. 78 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: I haven't seen him do it as much this year, Nathan, 79 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: but Coops. One of the things I love with Nathan 80 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: is sometimes you'll get the ball and he'll actually pretend 81 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: to be lost. You know, he'll get there, he'll go 82 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: to the line, he'll slow and it's just all the 83 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: conw and then you get back into two hands and. 84 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he used to do that sort of sometimes if 85 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: you're having a center on the outball, like you stop 86 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: as if the defense will stop, and then you catch 87 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: them out with the slick pass. 88 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: Coops talking about Queensland and little moments, the moment that 89 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: I thought, now the game's lost for Queensland. It was 90 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: fourteen six New South Wales Queensland. About twenty minutes ago. 91 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: They're on the attack. It was a really poor set 92 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: of six and I thought that this that set was 93 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: probably symbolic of Queensland. And then months he rushed to 94 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: kick off his left foot at Lomax. I think he 95 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: diffuses it and all of a sudden New South Wales 96 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: has got the penalty and at that point you really 97 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: see that the air went out of the stadium. 98 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: And when people put their hands up in the airlight, 99 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: they don't know what's going on. That comes down to 100 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 3: communication and that comes down to Munster and Cherry evens 101 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 3: that kick there was a threatening kick, but Lomax was 102 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 3: just on and they didn't have any continuity in the 103 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: way they went. There was another set where they just 104 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: scored after Xavier Coats and they ran the ball. If 105 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: that scrum and Valentine Holmes got taken home to touch. 106 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: I thought that was another turning point, like you don't 107 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: get many opportunities in Origin and when you take it, 108 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: you got to score points. And that ended up being 109 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: a different big time. 110 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: Coops the Queensland. There was a period in the first 111 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: half we I thought queens looked really good going to 112 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: the right, going to the right, and they were attacking 113 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: the combination of Latrell and they were disconnected. You can 114 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 2: see they were trying to work out their formula together 115 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: and they were having a lot of success down that side, 116 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: and then the second half coup the ball went completely 117 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: the other way. I know Billy has a real thing 118 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: with Lomax. He oftentimes attacks down Lomax's side, but it 119 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: was strange. You're given the success you had in their 120 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: first seas. 121 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: This is the run from chair Evans I was referencing 122 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 3: just before. That was a threatning run. But I think 123 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 3: that's not necessarily going away from the right hand side. 124 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: I think that's when the game's on the line. Months 125 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 3: is the dominant voice right Monster would be saying, I 126 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: want the ball, I want the ball on the ball. 127 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 3: He's just multiple touches because he feels like he could 128 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: do something. But if you analyze that game and you 129 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: just saw a run from Nana on the inside shoulder 130 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 3: of Latrell, Latrell got beaten on the outside. We're a 131 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: pass from Cherry Evans. If Cherry Evans needs to stand up, 132 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 3: if he's picked. But you're going to make Latrell make 133 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 3: multiple decisions in a set, not just one. He'll make 134 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 3: the right decision, but you need to make him make 135 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: multiple decisions. I think that's an opportunity for Queensland and 136 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 3: game too. Just find that disconnect slightly. 137 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 2: We'll talk about the selections for game for game to 138 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: and Perth and a second. But one of the big 139 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 2: talking points in the game coop, and this is not 140 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: me trying to be a smart ast anywhere, shape or form, 141 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: but where do you stand on the spencer l and 142 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: you kickoff? Which there has been a lot said about it. 143 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: It's chicken on the egg right, look at it. It's 144 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: a great vision. 145 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 3: Like I love the fact that New South Wales forward 146 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: goes to sun Corp and just wants to roll up 147 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 3: the crowd. 148 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: Look. 149 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 3: Sometimes origin is a lot of little things that ends 150 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 3: up being the result. And one of those little things 151 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: is let's say Spencer, they kicked a spencer off the kickoff. 152 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: Let's say Spencer comes back and skittles three Queensland defenders. 153 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 3: Who's won that battle? 154 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: Of course, right on the flip side. 155 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 3: If Queensland go and pick him up and throw him 156 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: six foot under the ground, that's where it sits. And 157 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: Billy has sort of said that it was because Valentine 158 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: Holmes was kicking off. Didn't want to be sure, but 159 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 3: it's almost like if you're going to take him on, 160 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 3: cut the snake's heads off and go off from type 161 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 3: of things. 162 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: So it was a victory. It's a victory for Spencer. 163 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: End up being a little one. But ye if I 164 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: was giving Billy advice, I'd be backing in Patrick Carrigan 165 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: GINO line him up on him and kicked him first. 166 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: TIF Sometimes it sounds stupid, but sometimes the smart things 167 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: not the right thing. 168 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: Yep, that's true. 169 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: Performances. 170 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: But in saying that, would you rather tackle Max Keing 171 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: or Spencer nu. 172 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: Max Kean? I know, w good points, good point performances. 173 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: What's yours to New South Wales? 174 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: Special mention to Mitch Barnett and Lea Martin. I thought 175 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: those two blokes not having given as much credit as 176 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: they deserve. But one point Isaiah. I thought it was 177 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: one of his best ever State of Origin games. And 178 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: he's just an intelligent player to get out there and 179 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: realize that he didn't need to be pushing the ball 180 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: around the park. He got Nathan and you've got Mitchell 181 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: doing that. I thought he was tremendous. Two points to 182 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: Zach Lomax. Coop in the last ten to fifteen years 183 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: have you seen a player in prove as much in 184 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: twelve months as zak Lomax. I can't. I was sitting 185 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: there this morning. I can't think of anyone to. 186 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: Put a Queensland analogy to it. 187 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: It's almost like when Dane gag I first represent Queensland, 188 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: when Valentine Holmes first represented Queensland. 189 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: There's just an. 190 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: Dramatic improvement in players when they either sink or swim 191 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: at origin level, and sometimes when they catch fire, their 192 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: confidence just takes them to another level. 193 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: Zach was outstanding. He was simply outstanding. 194 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: Three points. Of course pain has but also special mess. 195 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: I forgot Reece Robson. Reece Robson. It's the most dangerous 196 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: I've seen him getting out of dummy half. 197 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: Don't often win the game in the first twenty minutes 198 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 3: of origin, but geez, you can set it up and 199 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 3: pain Hass through effort, intensity, care factor and all those carries. 200 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 3: Like if you were to get quite analytical right now, 201 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: pain Haass gets tackled two or three off the kickoff 202 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: and he goes right foot across and he finds a 203 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: soft defender in Cherry Evans. Number one is get up 204 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: in front and don't let him skip. 205 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: Across your three two ones. 206 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: I can't go too far off what you said. I 207 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: thought paying Hars and Lomax were this close from being 208 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: best player on the field. I'm going to give Clary 209 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: a big rap. I thought he was gone. He controlled 210 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: that game, and I love the fact he set up 211 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: that try for Lomax. Stephen Crichton carry the ball the 212 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: set before and ran over the top of Hamisot Tabio fido, 213 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: and then the next set they get back, he goes 214 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: to the same field position, sets up a play, but 215 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 3: this time Crichton's running the lead runner inside shoulder on 216 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 3: Hammer and he throws a little double pump and Hammer 217 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 3: just bites because he's thinks thinking that Krchton's going to 218 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 3: run out of the top of him, plays out the 219 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: back Edward sets up limacks. 220 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: I thought that was very intelligent. 221 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: There's been a bit of criticism about the game people. 222 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: I think some of it's been the top third. People say, oh, 223 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 2: it's the worst storaging out they've ever seen. No I 224 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: take exception at that. I reckon Game two could be 225 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: one of the great origins as in New southp I 226 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: have no doubt whatsoever Game two monster be nine out 227 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: of ten, Harry Green will be nine out of ten, 228 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: Dally Cherry Evans and I reckon, I reckon. Billy will 229 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 2: pick him because, in my opinion, you always give a 230 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: champion an opportunity to redeem himself. I think this will 231 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 2: be one of the great games. 232 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I think they're not going to miss 233 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 3: the start this time around. And for what it's worth, 234 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 3: there's a lot of talk like Queensland could win Game 235 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: two with Cherry Evans at halfback and they could win 236 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 3: it with Tom Dinton. They're both good players and it's 237 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 3: about what they got wrong in the first game to 238 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: win Game two. 239 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: But if I'm Billy, I'm having. 240 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 3: A face to face coffee with Daily and I'm asking 241 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 3: him how do you feel about Game two? 242 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying, what does this mean to you? Can you 243 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: deliver for your state this one? 244 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 3: If I'm Billy and I walk away thinking he's my 245 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 3: captain halfback, I'm picking him if I feel like he's 246 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: probably not there and hesitant, just a gut feel probably 247 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: going Tom didn't. But there's only one person makes his 248 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 3: decision and that's Billy, and I would be backing in 249 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 3: hanging up the queens and Jersey in front of Daily 250 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: one more time and saying have you got it? 251 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: And I think the answer is yes. 252 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: Well I think I think I don't think Billy had 253 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 2: to ask the question, or he doesn't have to ask you. 254 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 2: I think the response from Dali against the Broncos the 255 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 2: other I think it says. 256 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: He was great about the Broncos. 257 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me, I don't know. I don't know. I 258 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 2: you know. I saw them down at Manly on the 259 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: Friday and they're really they're chipper, They're up and about 260 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: and I thought, okay, you know, and I certainly didn't 261 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: expect what happened the following night. 262 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: Well, if you were to put your coaches hat on, 263 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 3: what what what do you think is holding back to 264 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: Broncos Because we have seen the best of the Broncos 265 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: and we've seen the worst and they're not that bad 266 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: with that talent they've got that. 267 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: They can't be where they are at the moment. So 268 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: if you were coaching, what would you do? What do 269 00:11:59,040 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: you think the fix is? 270 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: Well, Cooper, I'll state the obvious. Where they're at at 271 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: the moment. I think a lot of its attitude right, 272 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: and the temptation is sometimes you sit there and go 273 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: what are the things we're going to do? And oftentimes 274 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: you always we look at what we're doing with the football. 275 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: If I'm mad je I'm probably sitting there this week 276 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: and pull them a senior players in and say, rah, 277 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: how do we win one nill? 278 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 279 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I'm thinking, how do we 280 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: win one nil? How about we do less with the football? 281 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: How about we just get into the grind and we 282 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: just majure on kickchase and you know. 283 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 3: Because I think what they're trying to do is trying 284 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 3: to bring in all their weapons and have this great 285 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 3: play that blows teams out of the water. 286 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're just trying to work for that every time. 287 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: If they get their mindset right defensively, like if I 288 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 3: do all the hard things that it takes in a 289 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: game of football and we all have that mindset, they 290 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 3: will win games football. But at the moment, it feels 291 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 3: like you just do that, get me there and then 292 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: I'm going to set up this big play We're going 293 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 3: to score on the cor coops. 294 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: I reckon when you go into a game, right, there's 295 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 2: there's two skills of thought. If we go into a game, 296 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: we say what we're going to do coops. We're going 297 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: to try to win this game fifty No, we're going 298 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 2: to blame the part. And then alternately you look at 299 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 2: and say, right A, coops is what going to do. 300 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: We're going to dig in and if we're to win 301 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: this game by one nil, we're going to win one nil. 302 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: I can guarantee you the attitude to win one nil 303 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: you score more points than trying to score fifty. 304 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: And that is a perfect example, because I think if 305 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: they do the two nil mindset, they are a good team. 306 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: They end up probably winning fifty nil. 307 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: That's because it's like we've always said since nineteen o eight, 308 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 3: if you double down on your defense for some reason, 309 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 3: helps your attack, but if you're attack minded, it doesn't 310 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: help your defense at all. And it's a big game 311 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 3: for the Bronx. Yeah, Reynold's three hundred hundred potentially Wolf. 312 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, just too good a side. Coops too. 313 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: I feel for I. 314 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: Feel for Payne Arson, Patrick Carrigan a little bit like 315 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: they go out on Wednesday night and they spill everything 316 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: they have for their states, and they came back up 317 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: again and they do it again, and they're just not 318 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: getting the response. I think a bit comes down to 319 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: Adam Reynolds, like just bringing that team together a bit 320 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 3: like a bit like Fog he has been doing for 321 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 3: the Raiders. Like the Raiders have a very hard nosed, 322 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: full pack. They've got super exciting outside backs. But the 323 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: key part of that is Jamal Fogue together and I 324 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: think a little bit of. 325 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: Reynolds for that. 326 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: Pain hasse There is talk that he will test the 327 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: open market. Well, he's coming off contract. His managers alerted clubs. 328 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: That's what managed. That's his job. 329 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: There is not a dollar sign that you would not 330 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: give pain us if you're one of the new teams. 331 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: I asked the boys last night, do you reckon Payne? 332 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: Has is a chance with that? You know, we're going 333 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: to see slowy caps starting to come in go up 334 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: as new sites coming in the competition. Doregon needs a 335 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: chance to be in the first two million dollar player. 336 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 3: Like you could mount a case for it, like right now, 337 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 3: if you're starting up the new franchise and everyone is available, 338 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 3: like pain ass is in the conversation with Cameron Munster, 339 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: Kaylin Ponger and Nathan Cleary, like he is right there 340 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: alongside them. He's one of the very few front rowers 341 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: who can win a game. He can win a game 342 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: with the carries in the effort that he does, and 343 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 3: he's a good example of a pro. Like when you're 344 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: setting up a franchise, it's almost like your first signing 345 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 3: is the bear of the culture. But the first signing 346 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: is the one through the door that says, Okay, if 347 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 3: we are going to set up who we are, it's 348 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: because of this guy. 349 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: I mean, Perth Bears, mate, as far as pain is concerned. 350 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: And the other one, Mate, I'm telling you cops, P 351 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: and G. If P and G come into the competition. 352 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: Let's say, for instance, and tax free money, you go 353 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: to paint and say, mate, one point eight tax free. 354 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: It's a lot to think about. 355 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: That include Harve's consultants deal. 356 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: Yes, it does, it does? 357 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: It does? 358 00:15:51,960 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: I mean Jerry? Now, mate, let's talk about Markey signings 359 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: right owen And the one I want to talk about 360 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: first of all, Cooper's the Melbourne Storm. You're our club 361 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: because I remember I spoke to Chris Anderson about this 362 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: and a lot of my Newcastle mates were in those 363 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: early Melbourne Storm sides, and he said, Chris Andersons said 364 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: to John Rueba when they're putting the looking to put 365 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: the side together. You know, he said, just get me 366 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: a great front rower and a great half back and 367 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: I'll win your comp Laza may get much better than 368 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: that right in the later years, but mate, just presence, intimidation, leadership, 369 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: knows how to win. And Bret Camorley the other early 370 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: in his career, but he's gone that way me and 371 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: mileson now and won it in the second year. And 372 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: the other one that was crucial as well was to 373 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: our Nick out, I mean two hour Nick hou. He brings. 374 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: He brings winning attitude, the blakes of warrior and just 375 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: a motion. I look back, it's such a shame he 376 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: signed with the Knights going into the ninety five season 377 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: and then he was a cow Yeah, Nick, and he 378 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: was over in Castleford and he just wasn't ready for 379 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 2: the change and we led him out of his contract. 380 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: Oh man, I'd love to play alongside him. What I 381 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 2: felt now some of the market he signings. Let's go back, 382 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: say we'll start eighty eight and in eighty eight you 383 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: had the Broncos, the Newcastle Knights and the Tweed Seagulls 384 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: which now have eventually evolved into the Gold coast of sorts. 385 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: So the Broncos their markets signing Surprise, Suprise, Wally Lewis. 386 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: I'll talk to Wally. You know it's amazing. Sorry, I 387 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 2: haven't Madge around a couple of years ago. He told me, 388 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 2: those unbelievable years at winning, when they're winning everything, he 389 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: basically didn't get a cent he said, I earned, he said, 390 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: those years in the QRL. He said, I just basically 391 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: earned no money through those years. How that can happen, 392 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 2: I don't know. Towyd's sea goals. They signed Ronnie Gibbs, 393 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: profile and toughness and the Knights. The Knights expend in ure. 394 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: The money they spent in that first year on the 395 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: entire squad was ninety thousand dollars right, and they signed 396 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: Adrian Shelford for Wigan for thirty five. So what they 397 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: did they went around, They hunted around and they just 398 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: signed Blakes with the two series Plenty of Tomorrows and 399 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 2: tough and the bloke who one of their major signs, 400 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 2: This major signing with Sammy Stewart, terrific bloke, great ambassador 401 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: of the club. He was the Kiwi captain Gatzi and 402 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: he was tough, the biggest year of expansion was ninety 403 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: five coups and they made the decision ninety two are 404 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 2: going to bring in the Perth Western reds Auckland Warriors, 405 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: North Queensland Cowboys and the Southeast Queensland Crushes. Western Red 406 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: signed Brad McKay. Brad mckaye was again great ambassador, great 407 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 2: guy on the field, really quality person, New South Wales 408 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 2: and Australian Locke winner, experienced Clove Churchill medalists. He brought 409 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: a lot. Warriors brought Brandy you know that. They went 410 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: there and they went after a great Grete seven and 411 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: Greg Alexander again a winner profile. Cowboys went different. Cowboys 412 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 2: went Larry Spooner. Now Laurie had been a very very 413 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 2: good player at Cronulla East and he was an in 414 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: isfrail boy and it was almost the connection to the 415 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: community which was important and this is interesting Southeastqueensland Crushes. 416 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: Their big signing was Garrick Morgan. Now Garrick Morgan at 417 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: the time was considered one of the best rugby union 418 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: players in big boy massive, in fact too big as 419 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: it turns out, but he was there. He was there signing. 420 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: Only played a couple of games. As I said, before 421 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: you know, he was just too big for the sport. 422 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: But that that was the signing for them. But they 423 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: just showed the importance and getting that markets signing and 424 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 2: the first guy. 425 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 3: And you need to get it right. All the examples 426 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 3: that you just went through. When you get those first 427 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 3: few signings right, plants a seed for what comes next. 428 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 3: If you get it wrong, then there might be some 429 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 3: challenges down the track. 430 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 2: I'll give you three and a half a million dollars, right, 431 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: give me the two players you sign. 432 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: Paying ass. 433 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: And you probably you probably need someone with something like 434 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: a I'll probably take months or Klon Pomer. 435 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you probably would pretty decent combinations. 436 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: Three thousand dollars. 437 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: Well, but let's you know, let's think about that for 438 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 2: a second. Coops, let's go for the model. I mean 439 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: the Melbourne Storm. You blokes had had that model in 440 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 2: the fact that you had a few of you blokes 441 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: that were really hot, and then Billy Ak went out 442 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: around you guys and sign blokes like Brian Murray who 443 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: would just do whatever it took and just got the 444 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: job done. 445 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 3: And that's the person who sets that up because it's 446 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 3: almost character over talent, right, Like if you if your 447 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 3: your pillars are front rower, half back, in a fullback 448 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 3: for example, then everything else in around that needs to 449 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 3: be character driven, not talent driven, because the talent is 450 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 3: in the three and they are going to inspire everyone 451 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 3: else to. 452 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: Do their things. So some big decisions for recruiters and 453 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: players the next two years. 454 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 2: Lucky Galvin Coop his career as a bulldog has begun. 455 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: I'll ask you a question, right, so he would have 456 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: walked into training today, first date school walking as he's 457 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: about to walk through the gates. What advice would you 458 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: give him? 459 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: Well, my advice would have got to him before he 460 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: walked in the gate. Trains start at six. 461 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 3: Would have told him to get there at five train 462 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 3: and finished at six pm when I said leave at seven, 463 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 3: and I would have told him to go get Terry 464 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: Lamb's number and sit down and have a coffee with 465 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 3: him and ask him what it means to be a bulldog. 466 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 3: That's what I would have done, because I don't know Galvin. 467 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 3: There's so much noise around it. That club has a 468 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 3: history in a DNA and if there's one thing that 469 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 3: he needs to do, he needs to understand what the 470 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 3: bulldogs are. He can bring his talent to, but if 471 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 3: he doesn't understand what's gone before him and what's expected 472 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 3: of him in a Blue Bulldog's jersey, that is one 473 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: thing that I would advise him. 474 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: And the other thing too is. 475 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 3: He needs to almost park his a chair at the 476 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 3: cafe and just get relationships with the players coming first. 477 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 3: Don't just go there and start chipping and chasing that 478 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 3: training Stephen Crichton, Connor Tracy like kick you out, like 479 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: just coffee, have five or six coffees in the first year, 480 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 3: couple of ours that you're there, and just get that relationship. 481 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: Because the kid can play. 482 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 3: No one's denying that, but he needs to build relationships 483 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 3: because if he just comes in expecting to run the 484 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 3: show with chip and chasers, and I've seen by the 485 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 3: way that he plays, he doesn't think about the game 486 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 3: in its context. 487 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: He just thinks about the then and the now. 488 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 3: So if he comes up with the couple of players 489 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: early on that's in then in the now is not 490 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 3: the team thing that's questionable. 491 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: Whenever I think of a Bulldogs player coup He's got 492 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 2: a lot of those attributes. So I think of the 493 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: Bulldogs in the late eighties and into the nineties, guys 494 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: like playing as like Jimmy Dimmick and Chase of Smith 495 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: and Terry Lamb. For me, what a Bulldog's player is 496 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 2: if you to encapsulate a Bulldogs player and a Bulldogs 497 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: playmaker is that number one is tough. Number two a 498 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: player who is more likely who is more comfortable to 499 00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 2: play shortball or play through a line than around the fence. 500 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 2: That for me, when I look when I think about 501 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: Bulldogs great playmakers from the Bulldogs, that's the sort of 502 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: player I see. 503 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: And did you do you still think he should start 504 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: on the bench? Look? 505 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: I would, I would. I would ease him in off 506 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: the bench. I would. It would not surprise me if 507 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: bally Hayward plays nine this week, that would not surprise me. 508 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: And they brought him off and he took bally Hayward's 509 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: role and come on as in a fourteen tight role. 510 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: But I I just sit in there. Then. I was 511 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: just thinking about young Jamie Humphries right, and I interviewed 512 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: him about six weeks ago, and I asked him about 513 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: going to South's right, very similar situation. I spos Likey 514 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 2: Galvin and I said, what was it like walking into 515 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 2: that training session for the first time. You got Wayne Bennett, 516 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: got Cody, You've got Latrell, You've got Jack White and 517 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 2: all these big figures. He said, I was terrified, and 518 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: I said, well, right, the first training sets. The really 519 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: important thing is first impressions are so important. Tell me 520 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 2: that first training session. And it just shows you the 521 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: importance of that first impression in the fact that Jamie 522 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 2: went in and they said right up with a one 523 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 2: point four one point five plong the time trial, which 524 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: awakes you. He had a strain to kill his TANDD 525 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 2: and just went ohn and he said, I felt like 526 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: I was going to tear it, he said, but I 527 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 2: had no choice. And he said I ran it. I 528 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 2: ran it well afterwards, like a barely walker, and Way 529 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: went up give him a pat in the back and said, 530 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 2: well done, Now go get that thing right. 531 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 3: It's why I just feel like there's something that Lachlan 532 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 3: Galvin needs to earn, right. There's just something there that 533 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 3: he is going to be a long term playing out game. 534 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 3: He will probably play at the Bulldogs for a long time. 535 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: If he's got the work ethic, he could probably play 536 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 3: seven at some stage in his career. 537 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: Right. 538 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 3: But there's something that says to me that he needs 539 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 3: to earn it, not just arrive on the front door 540 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 3: and say that's mine because I'm here. 541 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: To collect it. 542 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 3: And a little bit that I've said that you're playing 543 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 3: reserve grown that if he balks at that, that's the 544 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 3: red flag. 545 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: If he says, yep, give it to me, I'll do it. 546 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: I think you're going to be a part of this 547 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: club for a long times. Just a bit of an attitude, 548 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: just trying to suss out where is that coops. 549 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 2: I don't get. I don't get. I have zero interest 550 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 2: in the politics of the support boardrooms, executives, player agents. 551 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 2: It just bores me to tears. Right, what's done is 552 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 2: done now right, it's happened. The West Tigers golf feel dudded. 553 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: I totally get that the Bulldogs fans will be overjoyed. 554 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: Totally understand that. I don't know Locky well, right, I 555 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 2: do not know. I only meany he only come onto 556 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: the show once. But I know enough about people to 557 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: know the deep down, he's a good kid and there's 558 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: been people pulling him in every direction in all this, 559 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 2: and he's just still a young bloke. So I don't think. 560 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: I don't think they'll have any problem with his attitude 561 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: and whatnot is a little bit cock. Sure, maybe you know, 562 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: but that's what a lot of young guys are. 563 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: It's almost like, what do I need to do for 564 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: the team? What can I do for you? Like those 565 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: questions as opposed to you do this for me, tom Thing, 566 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: go on your cob