WEBVTT - Round 7 Takeaways

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper, I'm not going to ask you the question. Was

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<v Speaker 1>the right.

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<v Speaker 2>Decision from the Dragons to part ways with Shane Flanagan

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<v Speaker 2>Flanna's decision that say this is the best option because

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<v Speaker 2>without a doubt years the team were just deteriorating.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single day.

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<v Speaker 2>There seems to be something new, whether someone wanting out

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<v Speaker 2>and the other one. The seven losses are and all

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<v Speaker 2>that noise is the primary, but I tear the other

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<v Speaker 2>one that might have just pushed him a bit, the

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<v Speaker 2>Jade and Seweer situation on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Jaden like that was their best player, is their best player.

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<v Speaker 3>Decided to leave and then in a game that was

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<v Speaker 3>in the balance, it was reckless yep, Like, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>a choice but frustration, a sign of your best player

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<v Speaker 3>sort of plane on the edge and just wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>take some anger around on something.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you a vow who is an elite big

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<v Speaker 2>game player and something like twelve misses. That's when you go, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the rot has set in.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think from from a Cajun perspective, if you

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<v Speaker 3>look at Shane when he had success at the Sharks,

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<v Speaker 3>he had this big, strong, aggressive forward pack and then

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<v Speaker 3>he had some you know, some call it risk verse

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<v Speaker 3>reward type flamboyant, Ben Barber, James Maloney in the decision

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<v Speaker 3>making positions, and the Dragons like the game is different,

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<v Speaker 3>Like big players with that lack of mobility are not

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<v Speaker 3>going to be effective for long periods of time in

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<v Speaker 3>today's game with the six against the spailing play and

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<v Speaker 3>the fatigue that kicks in. So I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of their defensive system, they've got some issues

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<v Speaker 3>with the athleticism of their forwards, and then in the

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<v Speaker 3>halves and the creativity, there's there's no one that's really

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<v Speaker 3>dynamic and risk verse reward that says, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to do this, I'm going to come up

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<v Speaker 3>with this. There's some solid players, right, but no one

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<v Speaker 3>that's really going to turn the dial of like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to go after this game and dominate.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's the other thing too, decision from Flannet's point

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<v Speaker 2>of view health vice like we've seen I've seen watched

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<v Speaker 2>Flanno this year and he's just looked more and more

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<v Speaker 2>strung out by the week, and so I think for

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<v Speaker 2>a number of reasons, this is the right decision.

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<v Speaker 1>The question is ker.

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<v Speaker 2>Who comes in next? If you're that next guy in line,

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<v Speaker 2>do you take the job? I mean, because let's have

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<v Speaker 2>a look. Since Wayne Bennett left the club, they've had

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<v Speaker 2>six coaches and fifteen years right now. A couple of

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<v Speaker 2>those have been short like Ryan Carr coming into an

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<v Speaker 2>interim did a good job. But it's been six people

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<v Speaker 2>in charge in fifteen years. That's a lot of instability.

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<v Speaker 2>And like the Warriors have had in you know the

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<v Speaker 2>history of the Warriors, this is one of the few

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<v Speaker 2>periods where they've had constant stability because they've had a

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<v Speaker 2>coach who's been embedded for a number of years compared

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<v Speaker 2>to just turning guys over all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>One back the clock, Jason Rolls almost had the job

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<v Speaker 3>right and he said no, and really knows why. I

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<v Speaker 3>think no, and Jason a little bit. He's probably unearthed

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<v Speaker 3>things or tried to do things that he wanted embedded

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<v Speaker 3>into the club and probably didn't get it and then

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<v Speaker 3>put pull the eject cord. So look, who is next?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you believe in boomerang coaches? Right now?

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<v Speaker 2>What I mean by that he's looking back looking back now,

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what Paul McGregor was doing a good job.

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<v Speaker 2>Must be sitting there going Jesus books like hey, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and like it's hard for us to sort of say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, what's next, what top of coach they should have.

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<v Speaker 3>But sometimes just because you played for the club or

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<v Speaker 3>played the game full stop doesn't necessarily make you the

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<v Speaker 3>best person, right, Like I just have to look at

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew Websuit the Warriors, Cameron Surrounded. Yeah, he was a

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<v Speaker 3>solid player, but the Dogs went after that. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>a big job for you know, the decision makers to

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<v Speaker 3>look looked a little bit further than the.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a very very hard job for a rookie

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<v Speaker 2>coach to come in and say control.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it is, and you probably have a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>But I like the idea of finding out who that

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<v Speaker 3>next new young coach is. Sometimes we recycle coaches, like

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<v Speaker 3>for example, Shane Flannigan, Right, he was recycled with respect,

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<v Speaker 3>but his strategy or tactics didn't really evolve with the games.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why I got so much respect for someone

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<v Speaker 3>like Wayne Bennett who's done it for generations.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right, just back on something you said before

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<v Speaker 2>they could you spoke about your Shane Flannagan. We had

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<v Speaker 2>that Cronulla side that did so well, if you're sitting

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<v Speaker 2>around and you had the like, let's say, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you're a coach, is sought after by two

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<v Speaker 2>or three clubs. At the start of this season, it

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty clear that there could have been two, three,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe four jobs grabs.

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<v Speaker 1>Or every year.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the real good things, one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that I would do if I was being sought after

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<v Speaker 2>my number of clubs, I'd sit there and go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>which of these sides that if I just didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Turn up for a month, could look after himselves?

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<v Speaker 2>If that makes sense, Because when you think about that

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<v Speaker 2>Croneli side, you've got blakesl Like, You've got Blakes like

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<v Speaker 2>Luke Lewis, You've got James Maloney, and so a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of hardened, experienced guys. I mean, look at Penrith, Like

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<v Speaker 2>if I Evan just said listen, I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 2>off to Ibotha for for me.

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<v Speaker 3>A sabbatical halfway through in summer, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Think they missed birth the things that he's put in place.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got Isaiah, you got Nathan, those guys. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the very best teams are things that are put in

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<v Speaker 2>place who have got players that can pick up the slack, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's part of leadership. The leadership is to

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<v Speaker 3>teach those below you and mentor them and coach them

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<v Speaker 3>and then ultimately, when they're good enough to stand on

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<v Speaker 3>their own two feet, get out of the road and

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<v Speaker 3>let them shine. And some clubs don't have that at

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<v Speaker 3>the moment. Some clubs don't have that succession plan, which

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<v Speaker 3>is part of the issue that the Dragons are in

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a lot of things that talk about here

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<v Speaker 2>times of the essence, a lot of things we won't

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<v Speaker 2>get through it because you know, we've had big story

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<v Speaker 2>today it was Flanno, but a couple of games to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about Raiders Storm.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you, Storm lost five in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you still consider them in this competition an elite

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<v Speaker 2>team that.

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<v Speaker 1>Very the very top.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a question. I think they can still play finals.

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<v Speaker 3>I think maybe top fours out of it, but they

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<v Speaker 3>can play finals. The thing about the Melbourne Storm is

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<v Speaker 3>the more I think about it, I think they're the

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<v Speaker 3>Panthers two point zero from last year. Like I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to work out what's going wrong with them, and like

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<v Speaker 3>all the ingredients that make a good team, they tick

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<v Speaker 3>most of it. It's not as if they've forgotten how

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<v Speaker 3>to play. It's almost like they're stressed into trying to

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<v Speaker 3>be something more than their night and not focused on

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<v Speaker 3>the things at work. And there was signs of life

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<v Speaker 3>against Canberra. I'm telling like, take the scoreboard out of it,

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<v Speaker 3>the things that said, you know, they're not too far

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<v Speaker 3>away from a victory. And most people, probably including us

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<v Speaker 3>last year with Panthers, after eleven rounds, I at last

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<v Speaker 3>and thinking, okay, what is the answer here? Well, great,

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<v Speaker 3>good coach, good players. There's something there.

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<v Speaker 1>That I think Cooper's in two Grand finals in a row.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's put a pretty heavy dent in their motivation,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a bit of pressure on top, and a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of the hit their belief a little bit as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the responsibility needs to fall on Hugh's

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<v Speaker 3>grant Monster because if we look at the left edge

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<v Speaker 3>defensively against Camber, the months have missed a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>tackles that led to tries, but he's got Cooper Clark

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<v Speaker 3>inside in wait on the outside. It's up to months

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<v Speaker 3>to fast track their development. Otherwise teams are just going

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<v Speaker 3>to go to that edge all the time, so they

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<v Speaker 3>need to get over the mental scarring of what's happened

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<v Speaker 3>the last two years. But there is good players and

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<v Speaker 3>a good coach and if they can fast track some

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<v Speaker 3>of the because the moment, teams are attacking their inexperience. Yep,

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<v Speaker 3>they're running to and putting under pressure those guys that

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<v Speaker 3>haven't got the one hundred and fifty games in light

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<v Speaker 3>the camera monthsters of the world. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>up to the sea of players to fast track that

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<v Speaker 3>development too.

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<v Speaker 1>Spoke last week about that battle of that extra meter.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when you've got the football, that extra meter

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<v Speaker 2>pushing through or being just pushed back to make at

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<v Speaker 2>the start of a set basically dictates what happens on

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<v Speaker 2>tackle four, five, six, And I just wanted to show

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<v Speaker 2>an example for this, and actually it's a storm tribe.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we talk about their shortcomings, this is an example

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<v Speaker 2>Will Warbrick and if you put in slow mo o

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<v Speaker 2>there what here you see where Hudson is in a

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<v Speaker 2>position to control the tackle on top coop And you've

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<v Speaker 2>been a part of this, but Will just ducks under

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<v Speaker 2>him there, just simply ducks under that left arm and

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<v Speaker 2>just takes an extra half or meter gets him which

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<v Speaker 2>means you can accelerate the play of the ball and

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<v Speaker 2>then what you see, what happens after it, just that

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<v Speaker 2>little subtle.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing makes all the difference to the next set.

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<v Speaker 2>McDonald makes good meters, gets up, then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>Harry gets out with triggers Hues, which in turn then

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<v Speaker 2>triggers monster.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, and the rest in the way they go.

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<v Speaker 1>So that all stemmed.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that stem from the fact that Hudson didn't

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<v Speaker 2>quite control the tackle.

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<v Speaker 3>So teams now when you think of sort of wrestling techniques,

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<v Speaker 3>think about defensively, but teams for years have been practicing

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<v Speaker 3>how to gain advantage with the ball in hand and

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<v Speaker 3>using wrestling techniques, right, So that little duck underneath to

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<v Speaker 3>find the front was definitely a technique that's being trained.

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<v Speaker 3>And to give the insight to your point, if the

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<v Speaker 3>first run is a five meter advantage, but it's a

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<v Speaker 3>quicker play the ball, the next run is eight meters

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<v Speaker 3>and the next one is twelve, and then you've got

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<v Speaker 3>the try off the back of the spot on. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what they're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>And for you too, prevention, we're defending really great playmakers.

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<v Speaker 2>Prevention is better than the cure. So if well, if

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<v Speaker 2>we'll if you're playing half back in that game, and

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<v Speaker 2>I ConTroll will Wardbrick, then what that does slow play

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<v Speaker 2>the ball you just go no, no, take me another

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<v Speaker 2>one forward, whereas all of a sudden you see him

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<v Speaker 2>po through.

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<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, we're dealing with you on the

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<v Speaker 1>next time.

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<v Speaker 3>All vice versa. That the play the ball speed looks slow,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a quicksh playball. I go from being out the

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<v Speaker 3>back of the middle forward to standing up in front

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<v Speaker 3>and also determining where the ball is going to go.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think one of the keys to while we're

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<v Speaker 3>on the play the ball speed of the storm, I

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<v Speaker 3>think one of the keys is getting Harry Grant out.

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<v Speaker 3>We saw that, right, So I think, what is it?

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<v Speaker 3>No Nelson, no Twoy at the moment, no car teller.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the play the bull speed is less and

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<v Speaker 3>less like there's sat the other night on Friday night

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<v Speaker 3>before they played. Every time Harry Grant runs more than

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<v Speaker 3>five times a game, he wins seventy percent of those games.

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<v Speaker 3>When he runs below he loses. Right, So I think

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<v Speaker 3>Josh King, Alec McDonald those type of fords instead of

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<v Speaker 3>being one out trying to generate because they're not Nelson,

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<v Speaker 3>they're not Twoy. I think they need to be a

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<v Speaker 3>bit more creative in their ballplayer. It'll short pass, isolate one,

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<v Speaker 3>one quick play the bable that gives Grant the first

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<v Speaker 3>look at something. Whereas I think at the moment they're

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<v Speaker 3>just a little bit small, more mobile, but they're not

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<v Speaker 3>actually generating that difference into play the wally.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the artist is a little bit too simplistic.

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<v Speaker 2>They just need to dress up a few little subtleies

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<v Speaker 2>in there too. As you said, they don't have that

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<v Speaker 2>size of the moment just to get them punched. Them

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<v Speaker 2>through a couple of always want to talk about coops,

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<v Speaker 2>which is.

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<v Speaker 1>Unlike Melbourne Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the primary things about Melbourn's attacks, they're always

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<v Speaker 2>perfectly synchronized. Like when you call the play, all you

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<v Speaker 2>had to worry about we should target defender because you

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<v Speaker 2>know that players will be in the slots. The plagu's

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<v Speaker 2>sitting the right half of the whole right.

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<v Speaker 1>As you get there.

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<v Speaker 2>Billy on the perfect sweek line, not rushing you too much,

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<v Speaker 2>all those things. We'll see a few examples here and

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<v Speaker 2>one is pushing up and there's a break here, and

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<v Speaker 2>you have look at all the holes here, and I understand

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<v Speaker 2>it's a break, but Munster takes the ball coops. There

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<v Speaker 2>is no one with the urgency to follow that break,

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<v Speaker 2>and if there's someone in his pocket, he just rolls

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<v Speaker 2>through and score. Now this is this is a points split.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone pushes up, he goes straight into that hole. He's

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<v Speaker 2>under the post instead, Simmy Sosagi gets he in a set.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is some of the other ones where you

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<v Speaker 2>know Harry's jumping out.

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<v Speaker 1>There was one.

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<v Speaker 2>There was one in the first half too, Harry jumped like.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an example, like everyone is so deep on the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>standing on the back.

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<v Speaker 3>Like as soon as someone runs, the immediate response should

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<v Speaker 3>be to move forward like that the first one with

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<v Speaker 3>that line break. That is, don't worry about the play.

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<v Speaker 3>That is, I'm not a ball player anymore, I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>ball runner. As soon as there is a break in play,

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<v Speaker 3>it's accelerate into some hole and make sure that monster

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<v Speaker 3>picks up the right hole. He was drifting across because

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<v Speaker 3>he had no one to come, so he's trying to

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<v Speaker 3>buy time for someone and just throw the ball. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's where Sonia took it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ethan strange.

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<v Speaker 2>We said about him well wastually before we talk about that,

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<v Speaker 2>just defensively with Melbourne, there was one on the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>Jed Stuart School in the corner it was declared no try.

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<v Speaker 2>But on the other side of the corner you see

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<v Speaker 2>Melbourne there on an edge, just disconnected. You know, there

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<v Speaker 2>were guys sliding, there were guys that were coming up

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<v Speaker 2>out of the line. It's just it was unlike Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one that happened a little later in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an example too where they're just you know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>surrendering territory here and you'll see it just here. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I understand there's a bit of scrambling going on. A

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<v Speaker 2>guy's getting back, but still Melbourne are usually able to

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<v Speaker 2>get back and hold shape a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And you just have a look at out. Why you know, King,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not going up.

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<v Speaker 2>There's other guys sitting on their heels, others are rushing in,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone trying to solve the problem by themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>I think number one rule when you get a line

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<v Speaker 3>break against you is just get the lines straight. If

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<v Speaker 3>you're on the trial and you're in trouble, but you've

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<v Speaker 3>got to get a straight line. When white dirty come

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<v Speaker 3>up Josh King's defending where months is meant to be.

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<v Speaker 3>As soon as you get triangles in defense, you're in trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>You want straight lines in defense to solve any type

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<v Speaker 3>of play that's coming at you. There's a few things

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<v Speaker 3>they need to sort out.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we talk about the Penerith gaming yourself there and

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan Ethan Strange said about him last week we saw,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they move on to the right started.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a little bit of controversy.

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<v Speaker 2>We showed last week the previous couple of performances where

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<v Speaker 2>he's getting used to the right. You know he's checking

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<v Speaker 2>off his right foot and going straight through. Last week

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<v Speaker 2>he did a left foot away and set one up.

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<v Speaker 2>It was evidence again this week. You know he was

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<v Speaker 2>on the right hand side of the paddock. He's coming

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<v Speaker 2>off his left foot and going and setting up tries.

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<v Speaker 2>Other times where he's trying to set play up. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>one now that's an area there, but you see the

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<v Speaker 2>awareness there. And this is another one here which I

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<v Speaker 2>really like in the fact that he switching to the

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<v Speaker 2>other side left foot in the move to the right

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<v Speaker 2>has been difficult for Ethan in the first month, but

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<v Speaker 2>I see what it's going to make him a far

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<v Speaker 2>more dangerous football.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's one here, little just cruise and using his left

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<v Speaker 1>foot a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you know. One of the things you

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<v Speaker 3>always tell sort of young halves is like where is

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<v Speaker 3>your best run? What position on the field do you

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<v Speaker 3>like to get the book and wherever that is? Try

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<v Speaker 3>and get to that position more often than not. And

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<v Speaker 3>obviously for Ethan it's sort of left hand side in

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<v Speaker 3>and around where the scrum is lined up, so why

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<v Speaker 3>not swing across to that side and use your left

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<v Speaker 3>foot at some stage. But he's adapting, he will get

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<v Speaker 3>He's way too good of a player, the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>he likes running the ball and set up all he's passing,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's the main thing he needs to worry about.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think.

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<v Speaker 3>One thing I want to highlight here is I just

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<v Speaker 3>want to highlight the players of Nathan clear, particularly in

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<v Speaker 3>the first half. Like I like watching Nathan in the

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<v Speaker 3>first twenty minutes of a game because you almost see

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<v Speaker 3>the game plan he will he is like a surgeon.

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<v Speaker 3>He plays it to an absolute tea, playing short passes

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<v Speaker 3>through the wide field. Position of the Dolphins created space

0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:55.200
<v Speaker 3>and he was showing and going like just playing short

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<v Speaker 3>passes and everything back through the middle. So the simple

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<v Speaker 3>fact that they do a lot of video now that

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<v Speaker 3>he's playing back inside, he likes that he deals with

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<v Speaker 3>Ivan clear and says, you know what, first twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 3>a game, I'm going to work through this. And his

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<v Speaker 3>first half small touches were terrific.

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<v Speaker 2>They too, just watching him and Isaiah could tell it.

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<v Speaker 2>They just everything appears half speed.

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<v Speaker 3>And then this was the game tire and everyone thought

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<v Speaker 3>he was going to kick this. So just anyone at home,

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<v Speaker 3>any young half watching this is one of the best

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<v Speaker 3>of the game. Just missed an opportunity to win the game.

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<v Speaker 3>He'll get another opportunity. And the fact is he was

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<v Speaker 3>rattled there under pressure. He took the time to step

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<v Speaker 3>off his right side, create space and reset himself for

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<v Speaker 3>the kick. So anyone that misses a big opportunity, the

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<v Speaker 3>next opportunity might be just a minute away. You got

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<v Speaker 3>to drop it and focus on what he did. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought that was a terrific performance. I thought he was unreal.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to pay you already one. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>give the Dolphins an enormous rap here. Their last performance

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<v Speaker 2>against me was we'll get to the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>season and say that, yeah, that's in the grand find

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<v Speaker 2>one of the worst performances of the year. That was

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<v Speaker 2>so tough. The other night they conditions up there. I

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<v Speaker 2>was told that they were questioning whether the game should

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so oppressive.

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<v Speaker 2>The heat you saw when the Penwrith players are being substituted,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going into.

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<v Speaker 1>A cool room. It was so hot. Yeat.

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<v Speaker 2>The Dolphins are eighteen nil down. Penwrith have had all

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<v Speaker 2>the ball, all the field position, and they get themselves

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<v Speaker 2>back and actually get themselves in front and nearly win

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<v Speaker 2>the football game. It was a mighty effort just on Penrith.

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<v Speaker 2>There an example of why they're so hard to score against.

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<v Speaker 1>Just having look where Cobo scores is trying the corner and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a big just a little thing here. Just

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<v Speaker 2>have a look at how many Penrith players like you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, like the desperation to get over there.

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<v Speaker 2>No one of their hard to score points.

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<v Speaker 1>Again.

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<v Speaker 3>You can have a system, you can make a tacticle,

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<v Speaker 3>you can try and slide down, but at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the day, the attitude of defense is just do

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it takes to stop them. Yeah, they scored, but

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<v Speaker 3>if that happens again, there's six seven Panthers jersey in

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<v Speaker 3>the picture. I'm pretty sure they might try and save

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<v Speaker 3>one one day. But to the Dolphins, I think you

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<v Speaker 3>got to give them a rap, you know, down by

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<v Speaker 3>a fair bit. At halftime they realized that Nathan was

0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.480
<v Speaker 3>playing through them with short passes. So Wolf in the

0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.320
<v Speaker 3>middle forwards obviously had a conversation and said, right, we

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<v Speaker 3>need to tighten up the middle. You know. Plath and

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<v Speaker 3>Gilbert were much better in the second half, playing for

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<v Speaker 3>long minutes and then the Dolphins attack shifted and put

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<v Speaker 3>them under pressure. That's the only way to beat Penrith,

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<v Speaker 3>because the Bulldogs did it the other week. You gotta

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<v Speaker 3>have powerful back rollers running it blazed to Lungey and

0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.960
<v Speaker 3>Nathan Cleary and then get to the fringes and use

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<v Speaker 3>your speed and footwork. So any team that's set up

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<v Speaker 3>where is a powerful edge back rower and then speed

0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.359
<v Speaker 3>and footwork on the edges is the way to beat Penrith.

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<v Speaker 3>Here the ball goes through good line, there by farm

0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.600
<v Speaker 3>Worth holds them up and the speed out the outside

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<v Speaker 3>of Cobo. There was one after this. I think it

0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.719
<v Speaker 3>was Avrillo. The opportunity for him to go and get

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<v Speaker 3>the ball to back rower and Finny Field archy running

0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:02.920
<v Speaker 3>through and then get the ball out to Avirello who's

0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:06.000
<v Speaker 3>got the speed. So I think the Dolphers did a

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<v Speaker 3>good job at resetting and getting that scoreboard back to time.

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<v Speaker 2>You just messed the Bulldogs there before, and yesterday the

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<v Speaker 2>Eels did to the Bulldogs. The Bulldogs did to Penrith,

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<v Speaker 2>And when you watch the Bulldog's game against Penrith, they

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<v Speaker 2>were so right up for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's always a counter to that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's always a slight price you pay from being that

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<v Speaker 2>emotionally high, and that is the following week and Penrith,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Paramount had just done the exact same thing.

0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:38.520
<v Speaker 2>They just suffocated the Dogs with their own desire to win.

0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:40.560
<v Speaker 3>I had their own emotion with eighty six and all

0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.040
<v Speaker 3>the old players there and everything on that off the

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<v Speaker 3>back of losing to the Titans defensively, the middle tier

0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:51.680
<v Speaker 3>players did a really good job, really really good job.

0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Fantastic, great, great to see those young blakes grow a league.

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<v Speaker 2>On the day Adam Reynolds were talking about the young

0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:58.399
<v Speaker 2>Blakes were at the Old Bloke and he said, before

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<v Speaker 2>we said, like the benefit in this game where everything

0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:06.120
<v Speaker 2>is so fast and frenetic and helter skelter. To have

0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:09.639
<v Speaker 2>halfback like a cleary, like a car tower blood this

0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Blake Adam Reynolds, just go right, just set everything down,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get it in the position. It was the equivalent

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<v Speaker 2>I thought after the game the other night watching watching

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<v Speaker 2>the way like Tigers had some moments coops where you

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<v Speaker 2>stand up off the couch and you applaud, you just

0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:26.639
<v Speaker 2>go that is so good.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was like the tortoise and the hair.

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<v Speaker 2>They just absolutely bring it. The Tigers, me and Moles

0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:34.960
<v Speaker 2>now looked fantastic. Meanwhile, the Premiers just etched away, you

0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:36.359
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, just worked away on.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you'll leave an admit to that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's you know the old saying. That's like if you

0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:48.040
<v Speaker 3>hadn't played, they wouldn't have won. Absolutely like it was

0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:53.080
<v Speaker 3>a captain's knock, inside passes, send up tries, good decision

0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:56.400
<v Speaker 3>making leadership that you know, some of the best players

0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:58.199
<v Speaker 3>weren't there. And if you have a look at his

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<v Speaker 3>field goal, game was tied and they went for a

0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:04.960
<v Speaker 3>grubber kick, got the ball back and there was a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of confusion whether it was six again or not.

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<v Speaker 3>He was literally stand in front of the post inside

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<v Speaker 3>ten minutes. And my number one really is when you're

0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:14.560
<v Speaker 3>inside tenants tied, go for the tribe. But if it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't work, kick the field goal. If you're inside five minutes,

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<v Speaker 3>just take the shot. What he did was, oh, I

0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:23.480
<v Speaker 3>got no pressure, kicked the goal. Yeah, schoolboard pressure. Next minute,

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<v Speaker 3>the Tigers are throwing the ball here, trying to chase

0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:28.200
<v Speaker 3>that one point, whereas if he hadn't have taken that shot,

0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:31.320
<v Speaker 3>it might have gone to the golden point. The Tigers

0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:33.800
<v Speaker 3>might have come up with a play. You always put

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<v Speaker 3>school board pressure on because it forces the opposition to

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<v Speaker 3>start doing things they don't want to do. And they

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<v Speaker 3>It rattled the Tigers because from that moment on, errors

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<v Speaker 3>are trying to throw the ball around. It was professional

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<v Speaker 3>from Adam Realds.

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<v Speaker 2>He was asking the press conference basically, how did you

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<v Speaker 2>feelate there when everything was so chaotic, and his quote was,

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<v Speaker 2>oh I actually felt quite calm.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he says it all.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to give a rap to who we spoken about.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot's off an acl who's just getting himself back. Mitch

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<v Speaker 2>Barnett for the Warriors. He did something in this game.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a little thing, Coop. It was not long

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<v Speaker 2>ago before in the first half and this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is a this is a title winning play. You have

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<v Speaker 2>a look at the ball on the ground here, all

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<v Speaker 2>Titans players will be all around it. Who comes up

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<v Speaker 2>with the ball? Isn't that a player to throw yourself

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<v Speaker 2>on a ball like that where there's a fair chance

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be a boot floating around there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is a big play. Melvin Inger used to

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<v Speaker 3>captain Drugs before an Origin game. He used to get

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<v Speaker 3>us out in the field to throw the ball around,

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<v Speaker 3>make us dive on it, because when the ball is

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<v Speaker 3>on the ground in Origin game, make sure there's a

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<v Speaker 3>marine jersey gets on it first. And that is a

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<v Speaker 3>very similar action.

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<v Speaker 2>Ala Mamhan was the first coach of the Newcastle Knight's,

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<v Speaker 2>a very hard task basket maker who used to say,

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<v Speaker 2>if there's a few things, we'll get kicked.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of this club.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of the primary ones was if there's a

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<v Speaker 2>ball on the ground and you don't dive on it

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<v Speaker 2>and kick it, you said you won't play first grade again.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think Webster's doing something good and I think

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<v Speaker 3>the key for the Warriors this year to play finals,

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<v Speaker 3>but maybe top four is they need to keep this

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<v Speaker 3>winning run at home.

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<v Speaker 2>Xact Day Dolphins in Wellington, so be an opportunity for

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<v Speaker 2>people Wellington to get behind the wires there. Keanu Kenney

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<v Speaker 2>was in the game. Last week we raved about how

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<v Speaker 2>Brandy was on his feet. Now this game showcased his

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<v Speaker 2>toughness for a little bloke. Pound for pound, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>get much tougher than Keano. And he took the ball

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of times and the Warriors just hit him

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<v Speaker 2>outside in like this one here where he is jammed

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<v Speaker 2>and you can see it's knocked him around. Made he

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<v Speaker 2>got up and took the ball on the following play

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<v Speaker 2>and then made just somebody's runs through the middle. There's

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<v Speaker 2>one not long after like this run that is it

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<v Speaker 2>is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, it is a boy.

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<v Speaker 3>But ye, you're right, it's way Eagan and Tanner boy.

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<v Speaker 2>And that.

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<v Speaker 3>If I was Keanu Kinning, I'd be going to the

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<v Speaker 3>owners of the Titans and going for an upgrade.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what well. Look, I think he's doing just fine,

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<v Speaker 1>just perfectly.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, the Roosters just quickly against the nice yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. The last couple of weeks and biparlor performances.

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<v Speaker 2>The first half horrible, second half terrific, hard to get engauged.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Teddy's doing a really good job. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Daily has been a very selfless player. Daily is doing

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<v Speaker 3>the right thing by the team, coming up with a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of moments when he feels like he can inject himself.

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<v Speaker 3>He's trying to bring Sam Walker into it. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like Sam Walker is trying to still be the main

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<v Speaker 3>guy and come up with players. Like there was a

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<v Speaker 3>player on the weekend where he went down the left

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 3>hand side Angus Crichton was ready to go through, but

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 3>he didn't go through Crichton. It was clunky. He came back,

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<v Speaker 3>chipped and chased for himself and scored. That just summed

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<v Speaker 3>it up right, Like he just need to be on

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<v Speaker 3>the same page as Daily, Cherry Evans the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>the team because when he goes off, Script is a

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<v Speaker 3>brilliant little player. But when he can understand what else

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<v Speaker 3>is going on and bring other people in, I think

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<v Speaker 3>Daily is trying to work really hard to bring Sam

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<v Speaker 3>into the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Where you said that, Coops, I was watching it yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>and I was watching the game.

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<v Speaker 1>You could just see that for daily. It was what

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he could see that Sam was on the bit

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, on a bit of roll in that

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<v Speaker 2>second half, and he just took a step back as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to do