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Speaker 1: This is the fits In in Whipper with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: There's an issue in the Fitzgerald House and it's divided

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Speaker 2: Team Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 3: There was tears over the weekend to the point where

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Speaker 3: I said to the boys on Sunday, if I hear

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Speaker 3: the letter E and the word bike next to each other,

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Speaker 3: you both you're missing out on the PlayStation.

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Speaker 4: Stuff will be taken away from it.

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Speaker 3: So we had a Sunday free zone of e bike

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Speaker 3: chat and thirteen twenty four to ten. Parents, if you're

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Speaker 3: going through this, because I've never seen something. I've never

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Speaker 3: seen a phase and we all know that these phases

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Speaker 3: come through and Tommy you're on your vaping phase at

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Speaker 3: the moment and stuff.

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Speaker 4: But thank you for your support with that one. Gus.

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Speaker 3: You know it comes and then it goes away. But

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Speaker 3: at the moment E bikes. What I need to know parents,

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Speaker 3: and if there's police out there or can someone the

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Speaker 3: legality of this because Lenny is crying his eyes out

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Speaker 3: because he said I don't want I said, well, wait

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Speaker 3: to your birthday and I'll get you a proper e

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Speaker 3: bike yea, And he said, no, I don't want an

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Speaker 3: e bike. They're not fun, so pedal assist whips. So

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Speaker 3: what will these e bikes do? They work when you

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Speaker 3: pedal your bike, which is good because you're still exercising

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Speaker 3: and you're still pedaling.

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Speaker 4: That's not fun.

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Speaker 3: They want conversion kits, right, so kids want to get

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Speaker 3: these electric motors that you then connect to a normal bike.

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Speaker 4: Which we make it a motor bike.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is what I said to him, But apparently

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Speaker 3: this is what I need to know. Apparently there are

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Speaker 3: conversion kits that are legal, but I don't know how

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Speaker 3: fast they go, what do they get up to.

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Speaker 4: What are the problems that you're having at the moment? Parents?

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Speaker 3: Because I need help, I said to Tommy. I could

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Speaker 3: throw this out on social media. Tommy said, why don't

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Speaker 3: we talk about it on the show, because.

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Speaker 2: I would assume there's a difference between buying an e bike,

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Speaker 2: which has some sort of manufactured control.

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Speaker 4: Of what the e bikes do. Although they seem like

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Speaker 4: they raw.

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Speaker 2: Like they go up and down our street at one

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Speaker 2: hundred miles an hour, putting an engine on.

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Speaker 4: A bike like a backshed job is a different thing.

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Speaker 4: How are they getting away with it? Something you can do?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 3: The other argument, I'm really struggling with with at the

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Speaker 3: moment as a parent is the argument of everybody else

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Speaker 3: at school has them, and like to the point over

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Speaker 3: the weekend where I went right out of your mates,

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Speaker 3: who has them? Out of your friendship groupep So Lenny

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Speaker 3: then goes, Josh's got one. So then I in front

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Speaker 3: of Lenny at the kitchen table, put down my phone,

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Speaker 3: I put it on speaker and I ring Josh's mum.

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Speaker 4: Awesome, right, Josh's mum goes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, this is a conversation that's happening in our

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Speaker 3: house at the moment, Fitzy. But I have to tell

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Speaker 3: you that he has not. We haven't ordered him one yet.

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Speaker 3: We're still talking about it as well and going through it.

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Speaker 3: So the argument of everybody's got.

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Speaker 2: One, it's every house is dealing with the same issue.

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Speaker 2: Is what that means?

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Speaker 3: Ricky Lee in Malabar, help us out here, Ricky Lee,

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Speaker 3: what's happening.

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Speaker 1: I've got a thirteen year old son and we're getting

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Speaker 1: powerplantic presentations on wanting not.

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Speaker 5: An e bike.

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Speaker 1: He wants a fat boy. They're like, oh yeah, one

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Speaker 1: with bigger wheel, big times, And I see so many

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Speaker 1: of them driving around the East like kids on bikes

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Speaker 1: going to school and they go fast, they fly regularly.

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Speaker 4: How fast does this go?

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Speaker 2: Like if he's done the PowerPoint presentation? Have you seen

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Speaker 2: a top speed on one of these things?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they got through about fifty k Yeah

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Speaker 1: for a foot path and they are kind of too

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Speaker 1: slow for the road and these kids. Yeah, look he's

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Speaker 1: not getting on obviously you can tell that.

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Speaker 5: I'm not.

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Speaker 4: No, you can't do that.

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Speaker 2: It's too do You know what when we were younger

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Speaker 2: and people would lose their license, everyone would go out

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Speaker 2: and buy these scooters and they were capps, so they

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Speaker 2: couldn't do more than twenty k's an hour, and that

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Speaker 2: was sort of the law. But I don't know the

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Speaker 2: law sits now on having a push bike that has

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Speaker 2: an engine on it that can do fifty clicks an hour.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: No, But see I'm fine with an e bike because

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Speaker 3: if you buy an e bike, let's say, from ninety

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Speaker 3: nine bikes, right, obviously they're not going to set you

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Speaker 3: an illegal one.

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Speaker 4: And this is what I said to Lenny.

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Speaker 3: I said, if something goes wrong with a bike, at

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Speaker 3: least we can get it fixed.

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Speaker 4: It has a warranty.

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Speaker 3: If I'm buying a conversion kit off eBay. He's going, Dad, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: eBay is where you get it. What if something goes wrong?

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Speaker 4: But I'm not worried about warranties.

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Speaker 2: I'm worried about the speed of the kid on the bike,

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Speaker 2: like whether it's a home job or it's an e

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Speaker 2: bike that's officially sold with warranties, if it's still doing

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Speaker 2: fifty k's an hour. Like there was one kid that

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Speaker 2: was meant to go away on a year program one

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Speaker 2: of the schools offer. He can't go away anymore because

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Speaker 2: he was doing fifty clicks and came off the bike.

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Speaker 2: So he's now having his shoulder reconstructed and can't be

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Speaker 2: part of the school program anymore.

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Speaker 3: I need someone from the law in twenty four to

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Speaker 3: ten to tell us what's legal or not and how

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Speaker 3: fast they can go. Andrew in southerland Shire, has your

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Speaker 3: household been ripped apart as well?

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Speaker 4: Andrew?

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Speaker 5: Ah, yeah, Fitty, my two eldest daughters are absolutely keen

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Speaker 5: his mustard to get hold of them.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 5: But I'm still got my foot down at the moment

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Speaker 5: saying hey, look, there's positives and negatives to both sides

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Speaker 5: of why we should get him and why they shouldn't

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Speaker 5: get him. I just think there should be more education

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Speaker 5: on teaching kids how to use a bike bike anyone

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Speaker 5: uses madive bike on the road. There exactly the same.

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Speaker 2: And you're saying that your brother's a cop and he's

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Speaker 2: got an understanding of the law on these Andrew.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he has. I don't know exactly the laws on

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Speaker 5: it because I haven't spoken to him in debts about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: he's to the well, he's a policeman, so he prefers

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Speaker 5: if kids are not right right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And let's go to Marty in Paramount, tell about

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Speaker 3: at these conversion kits that the kids can put onto

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Speaker 3: everyday bikes, Marty, are they legal?

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Speaker 6: No, so as as there's a big marketing employer at

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Speaker 6: the moment by New Southhals Police. So an e bike

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Speaker 6: is an assist bike only so mean that it actually

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Speaker 6: has to work when you're peddling their top speed And

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Speaker 6: to answer fits to these question is twenty.

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Speaker 4: Five k right?

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Speaker 6: They can go more than twenty five k's you're actually

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Speaker 6: no longer got a knee bike and it's illegal and

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Speaker 6: police are now actually already doing a campaign and it's

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Speaker 6: a seven hundred and twenty five dollars fine for being

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Speaker 6: on these bikes.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's good to dame.

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Speaker 6: As personal they call it personalized motorized wheeled devices. So

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Speaker 6: like your e scooters, you can't own an ee scooter.

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Speaker 6: That's also illegal.

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Speaker 3: Sure, okay, So Tommy, can you just cut up that

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Speaker 3: bit where he said it was a seven in twenty

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Speaker 3: five dollars? Fine, and I will put that on Lenny's

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Speaker 3: phone as he's ring hand. But what about for twenty

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Speaker 3: five dollars fine? Seven hundred and twenty five dollars fine?

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Speaker 4: What about the conversion kit?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's that's because those conversion kits are not

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Speaker 6: legal because they don't come under that Zibert that settle assist. Right.

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Speaker 3: So a category, it's like an exit, you get an accelerator.

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Speaker 3: It's like the it's like the line bikes that you

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Speaker 3: have around the Sydney you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 3: you can you can actually accelerate without actually peddling.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing, right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Marty, thank you for breaking that down. We had

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