1 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fear and Greed business news you can use. Today. 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: The local share market braces for another week of big 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: swings as the reporting season roller coaster rolls on. James 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: Hardy under fire after its share price falls nearly forty 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: percent in just two days, and a still a start 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: to the financial year for super funds plus auction clearance 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: rates saw and supermarket staff issued with body cameras to 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: combat rising crime. It is Monday, the twenty fifth of 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: August twenty twenty five. I'm Michael Thompson and good morning 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: Natalie McDonald. Good morning Michael, Natalie. Sean Aylmer. Our colleague 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: is two weeks into his European trip, two weeks to go. 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: How are you enjoying reporting season in his absence? 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do enjoy how well he timed that, but 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: loving loving being back in that also loving you know, 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: I hastened to add I did win my first weekend edition. 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: So if you haven't taken a listen to that already, 17 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: do suggest going back. 18 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: It was a glorious victory to you on the weekend, 19 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: and we mentioned reporting season. That is the main story 20 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: this morning, Australia's corporate earning season. It has just over 21 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: a week left to go, and really to say it 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: has been a rollercoaster would probably be a bit of 23 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: an understatement because investor reactions have been extreme, and that's 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: even been for the market giants. We had CBA Commonwealth 25 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: Bank dropping five percent in one day off the back 26 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: of its results. CSL tumbled seventeen percent, then kept going. 27 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: James Hardy lost nearly forty percent last week and these moves 28 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: then saw wide swings in share market performance on both sides, 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: up and down. It punched through the nine thousand point 30 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: mark last week, but still with the underlying warning of 31 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: what could emerge this week. 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: It's really laid there five very big lessons for corporate 33 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: Australia right now. First, productivity pays and I can't believe 34 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: we're still talking about product activity. Borrel's results prove that 35 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: tighter pricing and discipline deliver while giants like Telstra Origin 36 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: CBA are betting billions on tech and renewables. Second, consumers 37 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: are back, tax cuts, easing rates are lifting household spending. 38 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: Nick Scarley and Baby Bunting are for lying, and even 39 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 2: a crime spree at Rebel Sport couldn't keep results down. 40 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: For Super retail. But if you're not riding that wave, 41 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 2: get out of the water, as Ingham has proved. On Friday, 42 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: It's share price closed twenty percent lower on weaker outlook 43 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 2: out of the back of Walworth changing its contract for 44 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: chicken supplies. Third, leadership, it really matters. JB High Fire 45 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: dropped eight percent on a CEO change, while Aria and 46 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 2: Brevel one investor backing for pretty strong management. 47 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was interesting the JBA High Fire result, wasn't it, 48 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: Because that was a strong set of numbers, and then 49 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: it just plummeted because the CEO was going, And that 50 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: was a company that has really thrived on strong, stable 51 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: management for a very long time time. 52 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: And it really speaks to that idea of you know, 53 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 2: where you've got moves that are being punished hard, are 54 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: things like leadership changes or even poor strategic movements. You know, 55 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: CSL's vaccine spin off, James Hardy's fourteen billion dollar push 56 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: into a weakening US market are really clear examples of those. 57 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: But also I think the really big overarching one that 58 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: we've discussed a couple of times is valuations. They are 59 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: sky high. CBA the og Post, a child of this 60 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: conversation Gusney Gomez, which fell almost twenty percent on Friday, 61 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: highlighting that maybe good enough, just in this environment and 62 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: in this context, just isn't good enough. Yeah. 63 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: Indeed, I do admire your use of the OG poster 64 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: child terminology. That is something that Sean has never said 65 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: on this show. So it feels like you're bringing a 66 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: certain element of youth to this program. Now, we did 67 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: mention James Hardy a couple of times there. It is 68 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: facing fresh scrutiny after an LA law firm launch an 69 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: investigation into whether the company misled investors following a shock 70 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: sixty percent fall in quarterly net profit, as we mentioned, 71 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: wiping almost forty percent of its value in just two days. 72 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: How do we go though, from poor results to a 73 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: potential lawsuit. 74 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: It's really down to that sell off, which has reignited 75 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: anger over James Hardy's controversial fourteen billion US dollar acquisition 76 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: of US decking Company AZC, completed earlier this year, which 77 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: some investors said was overpaid for at a time when 78 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: US construction was already showing signs of slowing. I mentioned 79 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: last week that this was the deal that shifted the 80 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: company's primary listing to New York now. The law firm 81 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 2: involved said that its inquiries would focus on whether the 82 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: ASX and New York listed James Hardy issued false and 83 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: or misleading statements and or failed to disclose information persinent 84 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: to investors. Should also note that the company is actually 85 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: already defending aus separate class action in Australia over past 86 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: disclosure practices. 87 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: All right, we clearly then have a very big weak 88 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: ahead of us. What are the expectations for the market today. 89 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: Well, given that momentum from breaking through the nine thousand 90 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: point mark, plus the adrenaline hit that Federal Reserve chair 91 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: during Powell unleash or Moore Street more on that in 92 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: just a minute, future suggests the running of the bulls 93 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 2: isn't over just yet. But just today we've got results 94 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: from Santos, Pilgrim Minerals, Reader's healthcare, Vicinity centers for Discue, 95 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: nob Southern Crossosteria, and so many more. It's really anybody's game. 96 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Indeed, now you did mention Jerome Power there. Wall 97 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: Street surged after the Fed chair hinted that a September 98 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: rate cut could well be on the table. 99 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: Michael, most people wait their entire life for those three 100 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: little words. But in the case of US markets, all 101 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 2: it took was quote, the baseline outlook and the shifting 102 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: balance of risks may warrant adjusting our policy stance, and 103 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: that was it. They were off. The s and P 104 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: five hundred climbed within three points of a record high, 105 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 2: the Dow sawed nearly nine hundred and fifty points to 106 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: a new peak, and the Nasdaq bounced back from its 107 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: midweek slump. Small cap stocks yep, throw them into They 108 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: also rallied well. Bond yields fell sharply as trade is 109 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: priced in and eighty percent chance of a cut, investors 110 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: see September as nearly a done deal and less jobs 111 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 2: data rebounds or inflation comes in hotter than expected. 112 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's take a very quick break. We'll 113 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: come back in a moment with the rest of the 114 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: day's business news. Natalie's super funds are off to a 115 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: flying start to the new financial year, with the median 116 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: growth fund up two point seven percent over the first 117 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: seven weeks of FY twenty six. This is according to 118 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: data from chant West. 119 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: July alone delivered a one point five percent left for 120 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: growth funds, supported by rising global share markets, US corporate 121 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 2: earnings and progress on trade negotiations. Emerging markets were in 122 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: fact the leader of the pack with gains of three 123 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: point eight percent, while Australian shares rose two point four percent. 124 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: Chart West reporting that despite ongoing global uncertainty, Super is 125 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: still delivering for the long haul, with growth funds averaging 126 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: eight percent a year since compulsory super began more than 127 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: three decades ago. 128 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: Now, we talked last week about auction clearance rates rising 129 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: off the back of the Reserve Bank's decision to cut 130 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: interest rates, and it just keeps on going. Now the 131 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: rates have hit their highest level since February of last year, 132 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: and it certainly doesn't hurt the financial markets are tipping 133 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: between two and three more rate cuts by mid next year. 134 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: There is clearly a lot of confidence out there. 135 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: It's proving to be the perfect storm. Across Australia's capital cities. 136 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: The combined preliminary auction clearance rate climbed to seventy five 137 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: point three percent, driven by strong growth in Sydney coming 138 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: in at seventy nine percent, while Melbourne logged a clearance 139 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: rate of seventy five point four percent. I did, however, Michael, 140 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: you're going to enjoy this stumble across a negative for 141 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: rising house prices though, and that's that rising living costs, 142 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: including maintaining two properties, are forcing more divorced couples to 143 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: keep living under the same roof. I'm like filing this 144 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: under one of my fun facts, but not fun. Data 145 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: from the Family Court found that nineteen percent of twenty 146 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: four to twenty five divorce applications involve couples cohabiting, and 147 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: the divorce rate in Australia is actually at its lowest 148 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: level since the introduction of no fault divorce in nineteen 149 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: seventy six, something that again lawyers are putting down to 150 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: the fact that couples cannot afford in the current property 151 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: climate to be maintaining two households. 152 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,239 Speaker 1: Wow, that is extraordinary. I'll tell you what else is extraordinary, 153 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: this next one. Because Sean and I had talked about 154 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: this last year, the potential for this to happen. Rising 155 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: crime in Victoria has prompted Woolies and Coals to issue 156 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: body cameras to hundreds of frontline staff and to train 157 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: thousands in basically in de escalation, including using VR simulations 158 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: to do it. 159 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: So let me give you some numbers on that. So 160 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: Woolworth reported forty five store lockdowns this year, while Coles 161 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: saw forty percent more incidents than in their new South 162 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: Wales stores. The Victorian government has responded with tougher bail laws, 163 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: machete bands and increased police powers, but retailers are calling 164 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: for stronger security measures to protect staff and customers, and 165 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: clearly they see the body cameras as being part of this. 166 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: It does come just days after Super Retail chief executive 167 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: Anthony Heriti described industrial scale theft at its Rebel Sports 168 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: stores in Victoria as being out of control and denting 169 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: Rebel's gross margins for the year. 170 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: This is interesting toilet paper company, who gives a crap 171 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: is cutting nearly a fifth of its global workforce as 172 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: part of a ma race structure, and the CEO and 173 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: the very modern tradition took to LinkedIn to share why. 174 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: And this is actually where I came across this story. 175 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: Michael CEO and co founder Simon Griffiths told staff about 176 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: fifty rolls so mostly outside of Australia will go, with 177 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: many to be rehired in Australian time zones, which isn't 178 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: really a jump that you see being made that often 179 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: and In a show of real transparency, Griffiths published an 180 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 2: email that he had sent to the team in a 181 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: post to LinkedIn, acknowledging that despite everyone's best efforts, working 182 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: across time zones with limited overlap in our working hours 183 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 2: has made it harder for us to do our best work, 184 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: saying that calendars are overloaded and it often takes weeks 185 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: instead of hours or days for live conversations to happen. 186 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: Stressing that the business remains financially healthy, Griffith said that 187 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: the move will cut costs, improve collaboration and ultimately bear 188 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: in mind that this is who gives the craps fundamental 189 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: mission allow it to donate more to providing clean water 190 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: and toilets worldwide through its donations model. 191 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: Ultraviolet is recalling its cult Lean Screen sunscreen globally after 192 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: fresh tests showed SBF protection ranging from just four up 193 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: to sixty four, with a lot of those results coming 194 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: in under the SPF fifty plus claim that the products make. 195 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: The brand has defended the product against Choice testing earlier 196 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: this year and spent months arguing that the consumer advocacy 197 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: organization was incorrect, before u turning to admit that the 198 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: results did in fact show significant and atypical variability. Customers 199 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: are receiving refunds and vouchers, and the brand has cut 200 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: ties with its manufacture and testing labs, although they haven't 201 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: shared the financial ramifications of this. The TGA is investigating 202 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: SPF testing standards after several popular sunscreen brands also failed 203 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: to meet their claims. 204 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: Now, I like this is great Australia's date industry. We're 205 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: talking about dates that I suppose they're a fruit, aren't 206 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: they They're not a vegetable. Yeah, the fruit it might 207 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: be small, but it's ripening fast and it could become 208 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: a major export earner according to growers. 209 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: So most of the world dates you may not be 210 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: aware of this are grown in the Northern Hemisphere. 211 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: I think considering I wasn't sure whether it was a 212 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: fruit or a vegetable, I think you can safely assume 213 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be aware of whatever you're going 214 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: to say. 215 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: Most are grown in the Northern Hemisphere, meaning that Australian 216 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: growers are actually poised to capitalize on strong demand in 217 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 2: markets like the Middle East, Indonesia and of course here 218 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: at home in the off season. So really kind of 219 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: taking advantage of that season diversity. I guess global demand 220 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: is surging. Growers are getting between twenty and thirty dollars 221 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: a kilo, and the global date market is actually valued 222 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 2: at about thirty billion US dollars. Date growing is a 223 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: long game though, and this was a fun fact that 224 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: I was not aware of. Up to ten years for 225 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 2: palms to reach full production. Oh wow, yeah, so if 226 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 2: you're doing it, you are, You're having to think really 227 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 2: long term. So no one to the grow as they're 228 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 2: talking at a. 229 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right. Turning to international news now, Natalie 230 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: and US President Donald Trump has struck a deal giving 231 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: the US government an almost ten percent stake in Intel. 232 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,599 Speaker 1: It's part of an unconventional package to revive the struggling 233 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: chip maker and try and boost domestic production. 234 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: The nearly fourteen billion dollar and this is Australian dollars 235 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: investment will be funded through the Chips and Science Act, 236 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: but the government will actually be a passive investor. There'll 237 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 2: be no board seat. Intel's CEO welcome to the back end, 238 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: calling it vital for US tech leadership, and Trump hailed 239 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 2: it as a great deal for America, framing semiconductor production 240 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: as a national security issue. It comes just weeks after 241 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: Nvidia and AMD agreed to pay the US government fifteen 242 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: percent of their semikind do to sales in China in 243 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: a deal to secure export licenses. 244 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: Finally, China has reached something of a crossroads in electric 245 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: vehicle technology, balancing fast charging with batteries swapping. 246 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: So take Neo, which is a US listed Chinese EV 247 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: startup that runs over three thousand swap stations. They replace 248 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: a car's battery in three minutes, which I think must 249 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 2: be like close to F one standards, while battery giant 250 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: coatl plans ten thousand stations by twenty twenty eight, including 251 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: in fact for heavy trucks swapping that suits dense cities 252 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: and reduces EV costs. But analyst is still saying that 253 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: the two technologies can complement each other with fast charging 254 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: infrastructure expanding to EV sales in China are actually expected 255 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: to surpass petrol powered cars for the first time this. 256 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: Year, and that is really that the holy grail is 257 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: to try and get a charge that takes place in 258 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: the same time that it takes to fill up a 259 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: with petrol, or in this particular case, just swap the 260 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: battery over one for one. That's already charged and you 261 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: will be in and out within a couple of minutes. 262 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: I would I would love to understand the environmental and 263 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: sustainability flow through impact, though that does come with swapping batteries. 264 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,239 Speaker 2: That would be my only sort of hesitation. 265 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: I suppose as long as those are then recharged and 266 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: go into another one, it just creates a circular battery economy. 267 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I wonder well, we'll look into it. 268 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: Yes, either that or we've just solved half the world's 269 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: problems on this episode. All right. 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