1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Let's answer a DM that has just come through recently, which, 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: by the way, I know I say this in a 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: lot of my bonus episodes, but the questions that everyone 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: sends in to the dms are so helpful in terms 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: of me number one, giving people what they want with 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: this podcast. It's one thing for me to sit down 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: every week and talk about the things that I want 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: to talk about, but to have people ask genuine, you know, 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: questions or needing advice, I absolutely love that because you 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: give me so many ideas for episodes through these questions. 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: So let's answer this one. Hey lady, I just came 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: across your pod and I'm eating it up from the start. 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: So not sure if you've covered this In all honesty, 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: I've probably covered everything a million times, but I'm going 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: to do it all again. Do you think it's fair 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: to ask friends of friends or acquaintances that are wanting 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: to build their personal brand to promote your product in 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: exchange for that product? We are in the early stages 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: and the marketing budget doesn't exist yet, so this is 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: how I can make it happen. Is that something that's 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: acceptable to do in early days? Or do we need 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: to be doing a cash payment, because I get it, 23 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: a can of drink isn't going to pay the bills. 24 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: Appreciate you and your brain. And so for reference, this 25 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: person that has DMed, I'm not sure if your name, sorry, 26 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: because you're messaging us from your business account. They make 27 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: energy drink cans. So gifting people is a super common practice. 28 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: Some people will be happy to receive goods in exchange 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: of creating a piece of content. But it just really 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: depends on the person, and there might be some people 31 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: that will be like, no, I don't accept gifting or 32 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: I don't do any contra work, which is like the 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: correct term for it, and they might prefer to be 34 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: paid as well. But I think, especially if you're a 35 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: business that is starting out and you obviously don't have 36 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: a marketing budget, this is definitely an angle that you 37 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: one hundred percent can take and try and see if 38 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: it works. And I'd even just look at it more 39 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: from gifting as a whole and like a just a 40 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: pr gifting approach rather than always expecting everyone to create content. 41 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: But let's say, for example, if you know someone and 42 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: they do a lot of you know, taste testing, tiktoks 43 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: or whatever it may be, I feel like you having 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: a consumable is actually really good for gifting because when 45 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: someone receives something that they can eat or drink, and 46 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: let's say they're already doing content taste testing stuff, they 47 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: very well organically might make a video of it anyway. 48 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: And I think of Russ Eats, who owns Russ Energy. 49 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: I had him on the pod last year and that 50 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: was an amazing interview. If you want to go give 51 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: it a listen, because he's in the energy drink space 52 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: as well, but he has our warehouse address, and so 53 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: he's come out with a couple of flavors and he 54 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: has sent it to our warehouse and then you know, 55 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: naturally I'll want to jump on and do a bit 56 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: of a taste test. So you can definitely take this approach, 57 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: especially given the fact that you have a consumable, you know, 58 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: reaching out to those creators who might be small and 59 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: they're working on their personal brand and just saying, hey, 60 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: I've got these energy drinks. I saw that you do 61 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: X y Z, I see that you're doing taste test videos. 62 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: Would you mind if I sent you out a couple 63 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: of cans and you could even do it from a 64 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: like no there's no obligation angle, because I think it 65 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: is a lot to kind of expect people will one 66 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: hundred percent of the time want to make content. Of course, 67 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: there will be people that will go, yes, I'll make 68 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: a video, for sure, but you could even approach it 69 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: purely just from a gifting perspective and then having that 70 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: hope that they'll organically make that video for you. Anyway, 71 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Another thing that you could do because you are just 72 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: starting out, and by the way, like any business just 73 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: starting out, it is really hard when you don't have 74 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: a marketing budget, Like I know, it would be amazing, 75 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, if you had that money to spend so 76 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: that you could actually work with some more like small 77 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: medium sized creators and pay them their fees and then 78 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: get that reach on their accounts. But looking at your account, 79 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: I think you're already doing organic content. I can see 80 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: that there's like taste testing videos on your page. I 81 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: think there's absolutely not enough organic content on your page. 82 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: But that's one thing I'd really be honing into, is 83 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: creating as much content as you can yourself. Or another 84 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: thing that you could even do is send out your 85 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 1: drinks to the friends and friends of friends, Like you said, 86 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: and even if they're not comfortable, you know, doing a 87 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: taste test video and posting it on their socials, you 88 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: could ask, hey, would you be willing to you know, 89 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: try it in a video and send it back to 90 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: me for me to then post on my own socials. 91 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: So that way you're getting like a bit of variety 92 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: in terms of the content that you can post on 93 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: your account, even if you're just asking your friends like 94 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: can I get your reactions? Another great one could be 95 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: I love seeing people go out into the streets and 96 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: they get the public's reaction. And this works obviously really 97 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: well with a drink. It's not like, oh, I mean 98 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: I could do it with fate and go out into 99 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: public and have a little pop up change room and 100 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: get people to give me their reactions like trying on 101 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: our genes, but with like anything, food, snacks, whatever it 102 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: may be. That's another opportunity where you could actually go 103 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: out into the streets do a little like pop up 104 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: spot and stop people and obviously ask their permission if 105 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: you can film them and get people's reactions that way. 106 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: I feel like that's another free way to create content, 107 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: and then you're getting people of the public involved, and 108 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: those videos always do really well. But to answer your 109 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: question simply, absolutely, yes, you can gift people and hope 110 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: that they'll make content or people might agree to make content. 111 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: I'd definitely look into going out in public. I think 112 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: that's a great one. I know it's awkward to film 113 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: in public, but again, you know, you've got to put 114 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: yourself out there and make yourself feel uncomfortable in order 115 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: to grow. And just looking at your socials, I mean, 116 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: I feel like this is a bit of a business 117 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: burn book episode. Let me see when you post. I mean, 118 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: you posted yesterday at the time I'm recording this, and 119 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: then before that three days ago, So it's kind of 120 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: consistent the times that you're posting. But keep it up 121 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: with posting organic content across your socials. It's really tricky 122 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: when you're a new business. It can just feel like 123 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: you're flogging a dead horse by posting, you know, all 124 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: the time. But creating content organically yourself is something that 125 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: you need to do for the long run. You know, 126 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm creating content about my business every single day, and 127 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: I've been doing that for you know, eight years that 128 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: I've been running Fate and many years before that. But yeah, 129 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: to answer your question, simply. Absolutely, you can reach out 130 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: to people say hey, I'm this new brand, and you 131 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: could be honest with it for full transparency. I don't 132 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: have a marketing budget yet, but I'm just reaching out 133 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: to see if I can make connections with anyone. I 134 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: see that you're posting taste testing videos or whatever it 135 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: is they're doing, and I was wondering if there would 136 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: be any chance if I was to send you some 137 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: of my drinks, if you could do a taste testing 138 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: video for us, if they say no, or I would 139 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: rather get paid for it fair enough, like that's nothing 140 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: to be offended by. Or you might have someone who's 141 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: keen to just make a video and send it back 142 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: to you that you can then post on your socials. 143 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: You definitely have options, and there's no harm in reaching 144 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: out to those people that you know and asking and 145 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: who knows you might have one video that is absolutely viral, 146 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: but yeah, put it in a nutshell, gifting is absolutely 147 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: an option, and I would definitely give it a go, 148 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: and also put yourself out there and do the in 149 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: public taste testing reaction video because if you can get 150 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: some really funny moments with people in the public, like 151 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: every time those videos pop up for me of people 152 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,559 Speaker 1: trying things like I'm always hooked. I saw recently as well, 153 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: not energy drink, but there's this company called Vita Glow 154 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: and they made these little like a little sachet of 155 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: gel and they went down to Bondi Beach and I 156 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: don't know what's in the sachet. I think it's like 157 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: really good for you, like something healthy, and they just 158 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: had people, you know, trying it in public and they 159 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: just put this montage together of everyone going, yeah, oh 160 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: my god, it tastes really good. And that caught my eye. 161 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: So definitely give that a go as well. But yeah, 162 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: gifting is definitely an option when you're new and starting 163 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: out