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Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.

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Speaker 1: It's Monday, May twenty six, twenty twenty five. One of

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Speaker 1: the AFL's most memorable players, Warick Kappa, says he's concerned

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Speaker 1: about his cognitive decline and believes the CODE didn't do

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Speaker 1: enough to protect him and other players from head trauma.

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Speaker 1: That's an exclusive live today at the Australian dot com

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Speaker 1: dot au. Business leaders want to slow the introduction of

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Speaker 1: Fair Work Commission pay rises for health and childcare workers,

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Speaker 1: saying it's too much for employers to come up with

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Speaker 1: wage increases of up to twenty eight percent immediately. That'll

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Speaker 1: blow up into a dispute with unions. Who's the highest

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Speaker 1: earner on TV and who earns six hundred grand for

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Speaker 1: two hours work? Today the top salaries on Free to

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Speaker 1: Wear TV and why the glory days of superstar salaries

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Speaker 1: are coming to an end. Steve Jackson is The Australian's

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Speaker 1: media writer, and today he's publishing the inaugural Media Rich List. JACKO,

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Speaker 1: this list should be making both you and I feel

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Speaker 1: a bit angry.

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Speaker 2: I think yes and no angry that we aren't on

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Speaker 2: this sort of money. But it's good to know that

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Speaker 2: there are people out there on this sort of cash.

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Speaker 2: And if we work hard and get the right brakes,

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Speaker 2: we too will know ever to earn this amount because

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Speaker 2: it's going to be gone very soon. But it's nice

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Speaker 2: to know some people are raking it in while we're

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Speaker 2: the good times last, who's.

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Speaker 1: The Ginna Reinhardt of Australian media.

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Speaker 2: Karl Stefanovic.

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Speaker 1: Just keep it at real people.

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Speaker 2: Karl has long been the highest paid person on Australian television.

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Speaker 2: In fact, he's the highest paid person involved in television

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Speaker 2: except for the people who own the networks. He was

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Speaker 2: made a millionaire by Dave Ginjel back when David Lecky

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Speaker 2: tried to poach him across to seven. Lecky never forgot that.

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Speaker 2: I met with him for lunch a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: before he passed and he was still talking about how

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Speaker 2: Carl had dudded him after agreeing to switch networks. But

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Speaker 2: basically Ginjel put him on this multimillion dollar deal to

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Speaker 2: keep him there and then he's been on it ever since.

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Speaker 2: Hugh Marx, when he was the chief of Channel nine,

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Speaker 2: did manage to bring it down. He was bringing it

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Speaker 2: all the pays back in line with something that was

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Speaker 2: probably a more feasible amount. But then after Hu Marx left,

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Speaker 2: Sneezey bumped Carl back up to two point eight million

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Speaker 2: a year.

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Speaker 1: David Ginjel, who you mentioned, was the favored sign of

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Speaker 1: the Packers. He was the boss of Channel nine in

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Speaker 1: the tail end of the glory days. Really is Carl

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Speaker 1: and his salary the last remnant of those Packer glory

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Speaker 1: days when salaries were huge and personalities were also huge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that thing about television from an era where

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Speaker 2: everyone was tuning into it and you kind of had

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Speaker 2: three options of what you're going to watch at night,

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Speaker 2: and it really mattered if you had these stars on

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Speaker 1: Okay, Number two is not a journalist. It's Scott Cam,

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Speaker 1: who's a bit of an everyman. He won the Gold

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Speaker 1: Logi a few years ago, famously hosts the.

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Speaker 2: Blog Look, I tell you what.

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Speaker 3: I haven't had a drink in a week, which I

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Speaker 3: haven't done a seventies.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I've gone to school. I am

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Speaker 2: going to strangle a few tonight. Let me tell you

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Speaker 2: if I get it made get it?

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Speaker 1: Why is Scott Cam earning two point four million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Scott Cam is the face of probably one of the

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Speaker 2: most important shows on Channel nine. The block has been

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Speaker 2: a staple of its line up since two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 2: I think, and what's so important about it is it

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Speaker 2: makes heaps of money. It brings in product placement. The

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Speaker 2: sets actually effectively don't cost anything because they auction them

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Speaker 2: the outlays that they've spent buying them. Legend has it

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Speaker 2: Scott Cam was enjoying a beer at the local watering

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Speaker 2: working with Jamie Jury and then just becoming probably one

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Speaker 1: Next two also come from what you'd broadly call light entertainment.

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Speaker 1: I guess Hamish Blake and then Larry MdeR earning two

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Speaker 1: million and one point six million dollars respectively. Hamish Blake

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Speaker 2: He is, without a doubt one of the funniest men

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Speaker 2: in the country. Everything he turns his hand to is

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Speaker 2: a success. The amazing thing about Hamish's last show, which

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Speaker 2: has now been going for four or five years, Lego

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Speaker 2: Master's as I remember being at nine when it launched,

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Speaker 2: So as it was being rolled out everything Lego, that's

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Speaker 2: it was a huge hit. Always knew Lego was going

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Speaker 2: to win, but the fact that Hamish Blake can make

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Speaker 2: a show about building stuff out of Lego into one

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Speaker 2: of the most entertaining programs on television shows what his genius.

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Speaker 3: Is and the gold LOGI goes to Larry Emder for

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Speaker 3: The Chase Australia in the morning SHOWY seven Network.

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Speaker 4: On my very first day going to the Channel seven

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Speaker 4: newsroom as a cub reporter, I said, Dad, what am

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Speaker 4: I doing there for my job? And he goes, may

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Speaker 4: just be nice to everyone, Just be nice to everyone.

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Speaker 4: But I came home after a couple of weeks and

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Speaker 4: Dad said, how's it going. I said, Dad, I'm trying

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Speaker 2: Larry actually started his career as a copyboy in a

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Speaker 2: newspaper in Sydney. He dropped out of high school at

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Speaker 2: fifteen to chance his luck at journalism, and he actually

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Speaker 2: ended up becoming, at the age of just nineteen, the

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Speaker 2: youngest national news anchor in the country. While a lot

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Speaker 2: of people on the list are there for earning a

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Speaker 2: lot of money for one job, Larry's one of those

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Speaker 2: guys that fills in for people when they're off. He

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Speaker 2: the amount of money it brings in through advertorials and advertising,

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Speaker 2: and he also hosts a Dailey afternoon game show, which

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Speaker 2: again is critical to the six pm bulletins as it

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Speaker 1: Now we get to number five before we encounter a woman.

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Speaker 1: That's Natalie bar Co, host of Sunrise on seven on

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Speaker 1: one point three million dollars. She's a great example I

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Speaker 1: reckon of tenacity. She started out as the newsreader on

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Speaker 1: from being a news reporter. And she's just stuck with it,

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Speaker 1: hasn't she. And now she's eclipsed the people who used

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Speaker 2: It's interesting to see with matt Is when she replaced

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Speaker 2: People weren't quite sure. Samantha had this larger than life personality,

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Speaker 3: Coming to Alix Springs, it was just one thing that

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Speaker 1: I wanted to drive a road train.

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Speaker 2: Natalie was a more straight, hard news journo and she's coming.

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Speaker 2: She's brought a completely different flavor to Sunrise and you'll

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Speaker 2: see it quite often being ridden up in the media

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Speaker 2: for hard hitting questions at breakfast and I hope that.

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Speaker 1: They pick up their game. Okay, look with respect, you

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Speaker 1: just haven't answered the question. We know what Pontus is doing.

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Speaker 2: I think she's really earned the respect of that audience

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Speaker 1: Alison Langdon, the host of nine As a Current Affair,

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Speaker 1: comes next on one point two million dollars. She's another

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Speaker 1: Stayer and she's gone from news to pretty gritty reporting

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Speaker 1: for sixty minutes over a decade. Now in Australia, hosting

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Speaker 1: a Current Affair and replacing the beloved longtime host Tracy Grimshaw.

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Speaker 1: It's really hard to step into the shoes of someone

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Speaker 2: And the thing that I think is interesting about Alison

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Speaker 2: I've had the opportunity to produce stories for her, working

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Speaker 2: with her at sixty Minutes, and she's got this uncanny

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Speaker 2: and it's all very easy. But what you don't see

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Speaker 2: is like a duck swimming on the water. She's paddling

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Speaker 2: like that underneath, works incredibly hard, involved in every aspect

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Speaker 2: same doing that in a current Affair. A Current Affair

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Speaker 2: is a very exciting mix of light and bright, fun news,

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Speaker 2: quirky stuff, but also hard hitting investigations. She's covered all

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Speaker 2: and I think everyone out there really likes her as well.

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Speaker 1: It's eight years now since Lisa Wilkinson quit the Today

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Speaker 1: Show in a fury at the fact that she just

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Speaker 1: could not negotiate a wage as high as Karl Stefanovic's

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Speaker 1: looking at the wages of the women who are in

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Speaker 1: this top ten, the next to a Sonya Krueger at

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Speaker 1: one point two million and Kylie Gillies at one point

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Speaker 1: just a measly million dollars?

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Speaker 2: I think so. It's a difficult one with Lisa because

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Speaker 2: her pairing with Karl was fantastic. They were phenomenal together,

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Speaker 2: hu Marx said no, we're not doing it, put his

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Speaker 2: because we just simply can't afford to pay insane salaries anymore.

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Speaker 1: There are two personalities at number nine and number ten.

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Speaker 1: That's Peter Roverton and Tracy Grimshaw, both on roughly a

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a little bit deceptive. Tracy's not quite earning

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Speaker 2: a million dollars. She's on a year by year contract

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Speaker 2: million dollars. It's one of those things that's being reviewed

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Speaker 2: at the moment because last year with this deal, she

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Speaker 2: did a four part series on blue zones around the

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Speaker 2: world and one interview with el McPherson for sixty minutes.

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Speaker 2: And unfortunately the days where networks could warehouse staff to

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Speaker 2: prevent them doing reports on rival networks are gone, so

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Speaker 2: the accountants really have to go, how can we justify this?

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Speaker 2: Is that value for money? The thing is that we

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Speaker 2: know that once you release a network talent and they're

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Speaker 2: well known with people, they will get picked up to

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Speaker 2: do stuff elsewhere. So we saw with Liz Hayes departing

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Speaker 2: Niner for forty four years earlier this year in February,

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Speaker 2: Nine's developed. All these people, how do they retain them?

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Speaker 2: Traditionally they just pay them to only file the odd

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Speaker 2: report for nine. That's no longer feasible.

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Speaker 1: Coming up the journo who's paid six hundred grand for

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Speaker 1: two hours of TV a week. I think we can

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Speaker 1: accept that salaries in media are based on market forces.

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Speaker 1: It's not a meritocracy. You don't get the money because

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Speaker 1: you're better than everybody else. You get it because other

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Speaker 1: people potentially want you. Nowadays, in the present environment of television,

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Speaker 1: does that still apply? I mean, is anyone going to

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Speaker 1: offer Karl Stefanovic an equivalent salary to come to seven.

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Speaker 2: There is still network poaching, but the poachings at the

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Speaker 2: lower level. We saw Joel dry being poached from seven

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Speaker 2: to go anchor nine News in Brisbane, but we're talking

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Speaker 2: about twenty grand pay rises. Ten grand pay rises Joel

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Speaker 2: being poached to nine. That's for a quarter of a

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Speaker 2: million dollars. And I think what we've seen now is

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Speaker 2: with the generational change, it shows like sixty minutes, those

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Speaker 2: reporters aren't on anywhere near the same amount that their

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Speaker 2: predecessors were.

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Speaker 1: One name that stuck out to me on your list

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Speaker 1: was number eighteen, Georgia Gardner from nine on six hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars. This there's nine New with Georgia Gardner. Good evening.

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Speaker 1: We begin with breaking news and very sad news. I

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Speaker 1: don't see Georgie on TV that much pro rata.

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Speaker 2: Georgie is the best paid journalist in the country. And

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Speaker 2: it's a legacy from when she was brought in to

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Speaker 2: do the Today Show. She got a massive bump up

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Speaker 2: because she was the Today Show host. Again, that didn't

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Speaker 2: work out. The experiment was canned after a year, but

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Speaker 2: she remained on that salary because that contract was locked in.

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Speaker 2: Georgie is a hard working journalist, really well aliked and

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Speaker 2: known in Sydney. But she's on six hundred thousand to

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Speaker 2: present the news two nights a week in Sydney alone

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Speaker 2: and obviously filling for Peter when he's unavailable. But I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's not bad money. If you can get it, no

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Speaker 2: one can get it.

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