WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 4 December 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:07.200 On scoring with Zas Squadia. This is the Reader Panehy Show. 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:11.000 Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panehy Show. Coming 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:13.840 up tonight, a big program for you. The Great Douglas 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.720 Murray joins me shortly and he's in fine form, covering 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:21.680 everything from Trump's sobering message to Justin Trudeau to the 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:26.239 President Elect's piece through Strength strategy. Also joining me tonight, 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:28.240 Gary Hartgrave and Kosha. 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:30.120 Gaida and later in the hour while we'll. 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:33.159 Look at some of the best and worst Christmas ads 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:37.720 with advertising Guru Richard Ralph Smith and left He's Losing 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:40.800 It features well more CNN hysteria. 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:44.400 Now have a president coming into office, who's talking about 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:48.760 firing squads, who's talking about running people around the country. 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:52.560 But first, Labor is now faced with a critical choice. 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:56.040 Will it side with its traditional supporters, the unions, or 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.800 with its new base, the activist class, who are really 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.000 the shots these days. There is a power struggle over 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:08.200 a decision concerning the Tasmanian salmon industry. Labour's drawn out 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:12.400 reviews may put an end to Tasmania's very profitable billion 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:16.880 dollar plus salmon industry, putting hundreds of people out of work. 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:21.760 And damaging labour's electoral chances in the state. Environmental Minister 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:25.480 Tania Plibisek has come under pressure from the Australian Workers 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:30.440 Union boss Paul Farrow, who has joined senior Tasmanian labor 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:34.959 figures and asking her to put workers' livelihoods ahead of 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:40.080 and I quote the exaggerated concerns of inner city activists. 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.600 Joining me now to discuss this more. Sky News contributor 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:48.360 Gary Hardgrave, Gary, who's going to prevail here? This is 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:53.440 really a sign of the political realignment we are seeing 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:57.760 in so many areas in this country and in the US, 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:02.200 in the UK where lay bar the Democrats. Labor in 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:07.680 the UK are really abandoning their traditional supporters, the working class, 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:12.839 the union workers, and preoccupied with the concerns of activists 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:13.720 in the inner cities. 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:17.720 Yeah, and you know I read I actually made this 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:20.679 a speech in twenty oh seven in the House of rep. 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:22.720 So to my mind, there's nothing new with this. Labor 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:25.639 have walked away from the working class, the workers of Australia. 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:27.320 A generation ago. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.160 I had an uncle who was a trade union official 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.520 within the ETU, and he said to me, he said, 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:33.839 you know where my politics lies. 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:35.360 He said, but I can't stand them now. 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:38.040 This was twenty odd years ago and he started voting 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.160 Liberal because he just could not stand where labor had 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.680 got to. So you know, put that, you know, in 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.520 the back of your mind. They have forgotten about the 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:50.760 working men and women of Australia a long time ago, 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.760 and they're just going for the woke activists. And I 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.920 don't get what the partner the mixed and tortured metaphor 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.280 the beef about the salmon industry is rhio because this 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.000 salmon industry has been. 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.000 Built over the last couple of decades. 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.240 I remember when I was a minister and the Howard government, 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:10.440 we actually worked closely with the Tasmanian salmon industry to 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.799 bring in experts from overseas, bringing skilled people who understood 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.880 how to grow salmon, wild river salmon specialists to actually 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:22.160 give the salmon that's grown in Tasmanian rivers and waters, 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.640 you know, the real edge that they've now got. And 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.320 that's such a I think there's much more than hundreds 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:30.600 of people impacted by this. There's literally thousands of people 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.120 that are going to be hurt by this kind of decision. 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.120 And you know, on top of that, there's all this 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:39.200 new infrastructure that's been built into Northern Tasmania, new port facilities, 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.480 new airports, new new flights. I mean, all these things 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:46.520 that are happening, and it all comes because there's activity. 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.360 There and the AWU is right. 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:52.400 But you know, seriously, the Labor Party, I'm more worried 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:57.080 about the various vested interests of the elite friends of 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.080 the people who you know, want to be offended on 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.080 behalf of others. And by the way, the irony is 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.680 they're all looking for salmon for Christmas because they don't 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:05.960 eat meat. 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.080 I want salmon on their Christmas plate. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:12.640 And here they are killing off homegrown, Australian grown, Tasmanian 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:13.600 grown salmon. 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:15.880 And what am I going to U is important stuff? 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:19.839 I mean, it's just one of the many industries, which 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:24.480 is why Tanya Plipasek is a walking, talking sovereign risk 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:26.240 to investment in Australia. 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:27.239 She's bad news. 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.920 Wow one. They've got the whole other aspect. They're the 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:38.120 leadership tensions that exist between her and Anthony alber Easy. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:42.080 There's a discussion for another day now. There was a 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:48.320 Nastree piece in today's Harold's Son Award winning sports journalist 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:54.440 Michael Warner has written about how woken hypocritical the AFL is. 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:58.960 He writes of the AFL's endless virtue signaling, he said, 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:03.880 persistent welcome to country ceremonies, pride rounds, pre match knee 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:08.320 dropping and race baiting doesn't unite Australians. It creates a 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:12.000 growing level of resentment, turning us against each other. He 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:16.560 also wrote about how football's capture by the woke movement 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:20.800 has really always wreaked of hypocrisy. He asks, the AFL 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:24.920 is currently defending itself vigorously against a racism class action 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:28.800 led by indigenous North Melbourne great Phil Cracker, but how 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:32.520 does that correlate with its public undertakings to believe all 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:37.159 First Nations players and Gary There is more hypocrisy from 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:38.040 the AFL. 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.279 The AFL commissioned chair Richard Goiter. 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:44.920 You're knowing from his work at Quantas he pushed clubs 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:49.160 to reduce their dependency on poker machine revenues. But at 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:53.160 the same time he's overseen a boom in the AFL's 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:59.520 lucrative relationship with sports betting agencies. The hypocrisy, the woke 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:07.279 virtue signaling signaling, the incoherent, just grandstanding. It really is 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.000 a turnoff for fans, But is it going to be 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.920 enough to actually impact crowd numbers people watching the game. 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.240 Because people love the sport, they're going to watch regardless. 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:23.359 Yeah, And look, Reta, the tribalism of AFL is about 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:27.200 the suburbs of Melbourne and the suburbs of Sydney, Adelaide, 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:27.960 Perth and Brisbane. 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:29.680 I mean it really is. That's the tribalism. 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.160 And you know, I'm in Brisbane, the Brisbane lines of 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:33.039 Fitzroy lines. 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:34.080 I kind of understand it. 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:37.440 I bonded with Harry Scullen when he was Harry Jenkins 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:39.480 rather when he was a member for Scullen, and he 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:41.800 was a mad Fitzroy supporter, so therefore he and I 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.320 agreed on that if nothing else. He was on the 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:47.120 left of labor and I wasn't, of course, But you know, 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:51.480 I get it. I understand the tribalism and I understand 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.839 enough of the history of it to think it's actually terrific. 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.840 But you know what, everybody cheers, I'm not a mad 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:01.080 made of mine loves Richmond and when Richmond out he backs. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:01.840 The Brisbane Lions. 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.080 An other friend of mine loves Collin Wood and he's 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.480 always looking for friends some years and other years he's 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:08.880 got plenty of them. I mean, this is really what 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.440 the AFL should be doing. 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:11.840 But to find. 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:15.360 Ways to divide people based around their personal, ethnic or 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:17.640 religious circumstances, that's crazy. 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.440 It's the Australian Football League. 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:24.840 It should be about Australia, not the WFL, the woke 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:25.760 Football League. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:27.679 But they've gone the wrong way. 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.320 They want to go into division rather than to highlight 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:34.240 how each person's diversity has common ground and the strength 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:35.000 that come from that. 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.920 It is wrong. It's crazy. 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.240 All the welcomes to country are really doing a lot 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.160 of people in I hear this grown on every quatter's 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.720 flight when they welcome me to my own country, and 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.160 I think people feel the same way at football matches. 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:53.040 We want no politics in football. We just want football 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:54.440 in football easy. 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:01.600 The sport appears to have been captured, hijacked by the left, 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:04.840 and I think you were seeing that increasingly at many 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:09.160 clubs as well as at league headquarters. Now going to 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:12.760 the US, there's a five hundred and twenty page report 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:17.120 from the US House Select Subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic, 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:21.080 and this will shock you, Gary, But they've concluded that 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:26.640 the COVID nineteen virus did indeed originate from the Wuhan 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:32.040 Institute of Virology. Who would have thought that we knew 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.320 it came from Wuhan, and that we knew there was 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:41.040 a lab there that was investigating coronaviruses, And for many 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.720 months we were told that any suggestion that those two 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:48.520 things were connected was a wild conspiracy theory that was 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:51.079 completely groundless and in fact racist. 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.800 Yeah, yeah, And of course you know, we couldn't sell 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.160 out one, and we couldn't sell our lobsters, we couldn't 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.959 have any relationship with China when we actually said, maybe 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.760 it is, as Donald Trump calls at the China virus. 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:08.800 Look either way, they just should have rung up chari markson. 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.680 She hadn't sort it out years ago. Whatever happened in 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.920 Wuhan made all the sense in the world. But it's 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.480 great that it's now official and the US House of 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:20.040 Reps has built the cat. But you know, a lot 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:23.800 of relationships, a lot of professional circumstances, and a lot 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:25.160 of families. 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.959 Were hurt by the overreach of what. 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:32.640 Now seems to have been a completely man made plandemic. 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.640 And you know these are things that back when I 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.240 was hosting my own show on this network, I never 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.160 said go and get a jab. I just said talk 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.760 to doctor, because it struck me as the most sensible thing. 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:44.640 But there are others who were just saying get the jab, 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:45.600 get the jab, get the. 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:46.920 Jab on all media. 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:49.319 I mean, I think a lot of us got con to, 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.760 a lot of people got con into believing the science, 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.960 and now we find out the science might well have 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:56.880 been contrived. 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:58.720 It's great to have the confirmation. 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.120 I just think there should be a full blown Royal 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.840 Commission type inquiry into how we handled it here in 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:08.120 Australia because a lot of politicians, some getting statues right 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.439 now a relationship, hang their head in shame for the 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.320 way they handled things during that time. 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:18.040 Gary hard Grave, thanks for time tonight. Joining me now 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:22.240 is best selling author and commentator Douglas Murray. Make sure 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.280 you pick up his latest international best seller, The War 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:29.720 on the West. Douglas, let's start with the presidential pardon. 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:35.360 Hunter Biden has the broadest, most sweeping pardon imaginable, and 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:39.360 it comes after the Biden White House insisted that no 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:43.079 one was above the law and that a pardon was unthinkable. 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.960 Well, as you say it, not only did they say 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.240 that no one was above the law and say that 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.880 because of Hunter Baden, and because they believe that all 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:58.160 judicial processes in America must be absolutely followed, and that 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:01.600 somebody whose name happens to be Iden is absolutely the 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.480 same as with any other name. They also said it, 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:09.440 of course, during the repeated attempts to prosecute Donald Trump 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.600 for a whole range of issues in America. If you 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:17.080 set a special prosecutor or a district attorney after somebody, 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:20.360 they look for crime, and they tend to find one. 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.240 They'll find some difference between what somebody said in one 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:27.360 interview three years ago and what they said in yesterday's interview, 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.640 and then they'll say are evading. 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:30.199 Justice and so on. 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.679 So this was this was a comment that Biden made 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:38.440 about Trump. But now he says no one is above 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:42.520 the law except for my son's certain other favorites. It's 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.840 not surprising and on a human level, of course, you 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:50.559 know his son has had untold difficulties that he has 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:52.320 got through and it must be very disturbing for Joe 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:55.960 Biden as a father. However, the pardon, of course doesn't 0:11:56.040 --> 0:12:00.480 just cover things that he's already been convicted of. It 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.280 covers things that he could yet be convicted of in 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.600 relation to the period that. 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:09.600 His father was in office. And that is pretty unprecedented. 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:10.120 So far as they know. 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:17.000 Yes, and it starts in twenty fourteen when Brisma came 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.640 on the scene for the Biden family that the entire 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:25.080 thing is astonishing staying in America. What a difference a 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:29.120 landslide election makes. It wasn't long ago that the Canadian 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:33.160 Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was taking potshots at Donald Trump. 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.600 But last week he was at Marra Lago, all smiles, 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:40.680 dining with the President elect. Even went on X and 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:44.600 tweeted a thank you to the president. But Douglas, we 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:48.280 have since learned about what the pair talked about at 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:49.040 the dinner table. 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.240 It's about that Trump Trudeau dinner. From two people who 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:55.880 were at the table, we're told that Wan Trudeau told 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:59.680 President elect Trump that new tariffs would kill the Canadian 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.640 I mean Trump jogged to him that if Canada can't 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:05.320 survive without ripping off the US to the tune of 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:09.040 one hundred billion dollars a year, then maybe Canada should 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:13.840 become the fifty first state and Trudeau could become its governor. 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:19.880 Governor Justin Trudeau, I love that Diplomacy through strength is 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.400 straight from the Trump Playbooker Douglas, what do you make 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:27.640 of Justin Trudeau's attempts to cozy up to Trump after 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:33.960 taking veiled shots at him for several years now, Well. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:38.679 It's typical of the undiplomatic diplomacy which we've discussed before 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.120 about other countries when it comes to Trump. You know, 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.880 if there are two people running for office in your 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:49.600 your nearest ally, it's very unwise to repeatedly lie about 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:53.320 and make false claims about one of them. And that's 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:54.600 whichever way. 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.400 Around you'd like to play. 0:13:56.400 --> 0:14:01.040 It be very unwise for people like true Udeau or 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:04.320 the Labor Party in Britain or in Australia anywhere else 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:09.200 to have insulted one of the other candidates in the election. 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.920 As it happened, the one they chose to insult is 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.160 the one that happens to have won. So it's rather 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:20.600 delicious watching, rather more delicious even than dinner, I'm sure 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:26.480 of watching the bimbo Trudeau trying to now make up 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:31.560 for his undiplomatic diplomacy. As for being governor, of Canada 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.040 always says, I mean, Justin Trudeau has been such a 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.600 hideous Prime Minister of Canada. I wouldn't ask him to 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:42.120 be governor of anything. I would I mean, other than 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:46.200 going back to drama teaching. I'm just I really pity 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:50.200 his students, even on that. I don't know what Trudeau 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:56.200 is good for. He's a narcissistic little playboy who has 0:14:56.360 --> 0:15:00.720 been vastly over promoted above his competency and the only 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:04.320 person doesn't seem to realize it is him. But I mean, 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.960 the Canadian public have a great opportunity quite soon to 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.600 wave farewell or to steal the line, to turn the 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:16.120 page in Canada. 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:19.440 Turn the page. Yes, I love your line about Justin Trudeau. 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:22.680 I think he called him once the Prince of performative caring, 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:25.760 and I think that he sums him up beautifully. And 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.600 if the polls are right, his days are numbers. I 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:30.720 don't think Donald Trump needs to worry too much about 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:35.760 Tariff's discussions with Justin because he's on the way out. 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.200 Sticking with Donald Trump, what do you make of the 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:43.520 President Alex's threats against her mask warning he will unleash 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.360 hell in the Middle East if the October seven, hostages 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:51.520 held by her Mass are not released before inauguration, which 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:56.960 is January twenty. Is that something that's going to be effective. 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.760 You've spent a great deal of time in the Middle East, 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:02.520 and the last year is warning like this is going 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:03.800 to have any sort of impact. 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:09.560 I think, so, I hope so. I actually as it 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.880 happens with some of the hostage families yesterday again and 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.240 of course they say that you know that they want 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:19.360 the release yesterday. You know they want it yesterday, not tomorrow, 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:22.680 not on January twentieth or any other time. And the 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:27.600 fact is is that the pressure that Donald Trump threatens 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.880 to bring can be brought, and it can be brought 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:33.760 not just against Hamas, but it should be brought against 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.440 all of the governments in the region who have been 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:41.120 backing and arming and training Hamaz. The Mullahs in Tehran 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:45.880 should feel the full force of American power as they 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:53.440 have Israeli power. Hezbollah, the government in Katar, the corrupt 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:59.560 Hamas supporting Hamas owning a government of Kata, the government 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:03.480 of turk which is now hosting more of the Hamaz 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:07.240 leaders than it did a few weeks ago. These governments 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:11.240 should really feel that force and that pressure. And it 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.800 can be diplomatic, it can be economic, or it can 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:20.040 be something else, but a very clear message needs to 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:25.679 be sent. Hamas started this war by murdering, slaughtering, and 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:30.520 kidnapping Israelis. These hostages should have been released on eighth 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.520 of October, and if they had been twenty twenty three, 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:36.560 and if they had been, this war could have been avoided. 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:40.000 But they started the war. And the only person that 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.280 can really end the war is them by handing back 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:47.760 the hostages and alongside it making it clear that this 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:51.680 will never happen again. This is in their power, and 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.919 only some of the dimmer bits of the international media 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:59.080 and parts of the Biden administration ever thought otherwise. The 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:02.199 hostages are not being held by Benjamin Attanna who they 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.200 are being held by Hamat. Hamaz has to release some, 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:06.880 It has to release them. 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:14.320 Now, now to France, and after extensive damage, the magnificent 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:19.560 Notre Dame will be formally reopened by French President Emmanuel mccron, 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:24.359 but Douglas, Pope Francis will not be there. He will 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:28.000 not be at the December seventh reopening, in a move 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:31.480 that has upset many, including a number of French bishops. 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:34.840 What do you make of this decision? You'd think the 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:38.520 Pope could surely change his plans to attend the reopening 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:41.120 of such a significant cathedral. 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:44.320 It is surprising. 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.000 I don't know. Maybe it's health reasons, maybe it's something else. 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:51.480 But when you mentioned significance of not Ha Dame, I 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.239 mean I think that I hope, I hope that the 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.520 reopening really does remain the French and other publics of 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:03.879 what was almost lost there. Everybody remembers those horrific photos 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:07.439 of Notre Dame on fire and the fear that I 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:11.000 think any civilized person has that we could have lost 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:18.600 this great tribute to faith and more. And sometimes when 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:21.040 you come very close to losing something like that, it 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:23.879 should make you love it and think about it more. 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:26.600 And I hope the French and other publics do. 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:27.760 It's not just. 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:32.400 That Notre Dame is a stunning work of architecture, it's 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:36.680 also a cathedral of faith and we'll see, but maybe 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:39.320 the public and the reopening of this can remind people 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:43.919 of that. I certainly hope that Emmanuel Macron and others 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:47.040 in the French government don't simply regard this as being 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:51.600 a fine restoration of a mere piece of French history. 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:53.160 It's far more than that. 0:19:55.760 --> 0:20:00.639 Absolutely culturally so significant the pope as a prior engagement, 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:04.879 so he is expected elsewhere. But I just would have 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.719 thought this was significant enough to change those plans. But 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.000 before you go, I want to play you a little 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:14.760 clip from California governor and possible future Democrat presidential candidate 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:21.520 Gavin Newsom. He's incredibly boasting about California's recording tackling homelessness. 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:23.320 We have a national model. 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:27.720 What Proposition one did is it reinforced that model, provided 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:31.959 more resources to advance that model, and we're very excited 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:33.280 to get those dollars to work. 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.440 Oh goodness me. The Democrats don't have a great deal 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:39.440 of talent. So he is still up there as a 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:43.960 prime candidate to be the future presidential candidate. And he's 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:48.199 boasting there about California's record, despite the fact that the 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:52.639 state is responsible for one in two unsheltered people in 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:57.600 all of America, and they had this enormous issue Douglas 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:02.720 with homelessness, with crime, with the list drug abuse. Despite 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:08.200 huge resources being devoted to tackling these issues, they're spending 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:12.240 around forty seven thousand dollars a year per homeless person. 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:15.320 And yet the problem doesn't seem to be diminishing. 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:21.880 No, because idiots like Gavin Newsom have done a number 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:26.800 of things in recent years. They have incentivized illegal migration, 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:31.879 they have incentivized people moving into their state. They have 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:36.560 made sure to punish everyone who is law abiding, people 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:40.720 like shop owners who don't like fecies on the human 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:44.720 fecies on the pavement outside their stores. They've made sure 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:50.440 to punish all legal homeowners in California, whereby you can 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:54.720 get an illegal encampment on an illegal tent or homeless 0:21:55.840 --> 0:22:01.200 throwing up of a shelter, temporary shelter some on somebody 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:05.560 else's property, and there's nothing that the people can do 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:08.680 about it. There's nothing that the law of iiding hard 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:13.000 working taxpayer that we always hear about is actually allowed 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:17.240 to do when it comes to dealing with and often illegal, 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:25.920 non tax paying, law breaking person who's squatting. And I'm 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:31.040 afraid Governor Newsom created that situation. He created it in 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:34.359 San Francisco, he created it across California. 0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:38.000 This is his fault. So when he starts to bose, he's. 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:41.280 Getting to work and putting tax dollars to work. First 0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:43.560 of all, good luck on the tax dollars thing, because 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:49.040 he's been superbt chasing talent and high neworth individuals out 0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:52.639 of his state. But secondly, I mean, he's just simply 0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:55.480 not fit to do this because he made the problem. 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:58.600 And if he wanted to stop the problem, he could 0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:02.600 stop the sanctuary city's nonsense, he could stop the rewarding 0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:03.600 of illegal behavior. 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:05.280 He could do all of that, but he doesn't. 0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:09.000 So these are totally totally hollow words. I'm afraid I 0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:12.520 used the word bimbo about the Canadian Prime minister earlier, 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:16.280 but Gavin Newsom is the same mole. He is a 0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:22.280 narcissistic little playboy who has never solved a real problem. 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:25.160 He wants to prem for the cameras, but he has 0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:29.159 done so much to destroy the state he pretends to govern. 0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:34.680 He is certainly very good at training, but you can't 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:39.240 deny the fact that he is attractive and charismatic means 0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:43.760 something to me. He is the front runner for the Democrats. 0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:47.879 Do you think there's anybody else who stands out so 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:51.000 there saying that Kamala Harris wants to run again in 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:51.600 four years? 0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:52.320 God forbid? 0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:53.880 Can you see that happening. 0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:59.680 I hadn't heard that rumor, Rita. I would have thought 0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:03.160