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Speaker 1: This episode contains discussions of domestic violence. If this raises

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Speaker 1: any issues for you, support is available through the links

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Speaker 2: I just don't accept what's not acceptable to me. I

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Speaker 2: have limits and boundaries.

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Speaker 3: They're pretty firm, they're pretty strong, and I'll just I'll

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Speaker 3: walk away like I won't make a fast but i

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Speaker 3: will just walk away from things.

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Speaker 2: And I've had to do that a few times.

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Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to the heart of it. We would

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Speaker 4: like to acknowledge the Gadigor people of the urination, the

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Speaker 4: traditional custodians of this land, and pay our respects to

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Speaker 4: the elders, both past and present.

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Speaker 5: What a great chat, Master Cheffer's those fans know there

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Speaker 5: are millions of Master Chef fans. Yes, are going to

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Speaker 5: love this chat.

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Speaker 4: She's a fan favorite. Actually she is, right, she is.

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Speaker 4: She's very beloved. She's the author of two best selling cookbooks,

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Speaker 4: launching the new cookbook I should Say Easy Dinner Queen

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Speaker 4: that's coming out. She is a TV host, a media personality,

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Speaker 4: and a frugal foodie, which she does talk about as well,

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Speaker 4: like how she loves to cook and where she came

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Speaker 4: from and where she was inspired.

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Speaker 5: By and she's joined by her husband, Neville, who what

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Speaker 5: an interesting fellow. Actually, when people say interesting, what an

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Speaker 5: interesting fellow, come up is?

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Speaker 6: But he really is a curious, lovely.

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Speaker 4: Such a warm energy. I found like, I found myself

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Speaker 4: feeling very calm around him, which is part of what

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Speaker 4: his job is.

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Speaker 5: Well it is, And I love that what they were

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Speaker 5: talking about was opposite to track. Yes, there's some things

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Speaker 5: in here in this chat I think you are going

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Speaker 5: to enjoy because there's some different ways of thinking about stuff. Indeed,

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Speaker 5: it's really great chat.

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Speaker 4: We go back in time, we come to current days,

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Speaker 4: we talk about their kids, lots of info. We loved

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Speaker 4: this chat.

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Speaker 7: Steph de Sosa and husband Neville.

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Speaker 6: Welcome, Thank you, thanks for having us.

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Speaker 7: Neville, yes, are you okay?

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Speaker 4: I am?

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Speaker 6: This is your first time.

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Speaker 2: Headline A little bit out of his comfort.

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Speaker 5: We are diving into the heart of things today.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for for sort of trusting us to be

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Speaker 4: your first podcast.

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Speaker 2: That's very kind to you.

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Speaker 6: I didn't have a choice in this, did you know?

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Speaker 7: Did you know?

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Speaker 4: Really?

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Speaker 6: I got told about a week ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but then he didn't really know. I said

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Speaker 3: we're going to do this thing. Yeah, I didn't bother

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Speaker 3: sending him a link to the podcast or anything. I

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Speaker 3: just yet I have trouble keeping up with her.

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Speaker 2: Out He doesn't. He just doesn't look at them.

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Speaker 7: Is that because you're looking at other things or because you're.

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Speaker 6: No, it's not that I'm not interested. I am a nerd,

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Speaker 6: so I watch nerdy things like.

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Speaker 7: What Yeah, what's what's your definition of nerd? And what

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Speaker 6: I work in it at the University of Newcastle and

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Speaker 6: I watch a lot of YouTube things about Microsoft data products.

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Speaker 6: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: I love that we're actually complete opposite.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's quite I do love food and wine though, Yeah, yeah, we.

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Speaker 2: We have that in common.

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Speaker 3: But as far as you know what we do and

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Speaker 3: personalities and in all that kind of stuff, where opposite.

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Speaker 4: Well we'll start with the easy question first. How did

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Speaker 4: you two meet?

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Speaker 2: That's a cop out.

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Speaker 3: We just basically we're just introduced by a friend of

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Speaker 3: a friend at a party. It was like a very

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Speaker 3: not very interesting introduction, but it smiled very rapidly. Did

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Speaker 3: I think I told never I loved him on.

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Speaker 4: The first time?

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Speaker 2: Why he didn't run, It's beyond me. But why, I know?

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Speaker 7: It just vibes.

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Speaker 2: It just came out of my mouth.

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Speaker 3: It was I think it shocked me as much as

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Speaker 3: it shocked him, but just came out of my mouth.

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Speaker 4: It was just weird.

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Speaker 2: It was obviously was there. Within three months he'd moved states.

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Speaker 6: He met in Sydney, and then I was living Kingsgrove,

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Speaker 6: I think, And yeah, within three months I was living

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Speaker 6: in Tazzi. Yeah, actually five months I moved to Tazzy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so you were living it. So I sweel a

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Speaker 7: bit lonely in Tazzy? Is that why I came out

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Speaker 2: Kids already lonely? No, not at all. Yeah, yeah I was.

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Speaker 3: I was divorced, fairly recently divorced and just single mom

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Speaker 3: know where it came from, but it's worked because that

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Speaker 3: was what twenty years ago now, So I was right.

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Speaker 3: But that's kind of me though, like I'm pretty of

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Speaker 3: you know, yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Think so Neville for you, When did you know with Steph?

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Speaker 6: When did you not on the first day.

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Speaker 7: You love me? You don't even know me exactly.

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Speaker 6: I think it was a couple of months in and

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Speaker 6: I said, well, there's nothing called me back in Sydney.

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Speaker 6: So I left my job. Well, I actually got a

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Speaker 6: job in Tazzy before I left Sydney, and then yeah,

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Speaker 6: I made the move and here we are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Actually, what's twenty three years?

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Speaker 7: Actually?

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Speaker 4: Oh really? And how many years in Tazzi together a yeah?

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Speaker 4: And then to Newcastle.

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Speaker 3: After Newcastle, well, we wanted to move away from a

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Speaker 3: few things, but also the cold. Nev's family has got

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Speaker 3: Nev's got two brothers in Sydney and I've got so

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Speaker 3: we didn't want to live here are that close to

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Speaker 3: kind of like a bit of a nice middle ground. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: not a big city.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you house is fab. Yeah, it's great,

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Speaker 3: And it's really growing up, which isn't it. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: really good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's close to Sydney for us. We come

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Speaker 6: to Sydney, make use of it, so to speak, and

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Speaker 6: then we can escape.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I'm probably down here a couple of times a

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Speaker 5: But trains, planes, cars that the roads are so much

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutly even like driving to the Gold Coast. Now,

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Speaker 3: you know it's like seven hours, it's nothing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think when we first meet here it was like

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Speaker 3: ten and a half. So it's amazing how much it's changed.

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Speaker 7: Seven episodes of the heart of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're done.

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Speaker 7: They yeah, they just go on your voice. Ali just

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Speaker 4: So you your three older kids, are they still in

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Speaker 2: Know they they were little when we moved up here or.

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Speaker 6: Not really little but two teenagers?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, two were just teenagers and one was in his

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Speaker 3: second last year of primary school or something in culture. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so they came with us. But our two biggest ones

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Speaker 3: now live in Darwin, I know, right, Like could you

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Speaker 3: get any further away from your parents?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You can move to a different you can still still

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Speaker 5: and it's so beautiful too, Yeah it is gorgeous.

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Speaker 3: And ones in Lake Macquarie. And Noah, our baby is

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Speaker 4: Is he ten? He is sixteen?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: You see you're eleven.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're eleven?

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Speaker 2: Ok?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, amazing, yeah amazing. Are any of them foodies?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: They all love food?

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Speaker 6: YEAHOD and bad? Yeah, they're still they're still like junk food. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, they are foodies and they all cook

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Speaker 3: Noah, our youngest te works in an Italian restaurant, has

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Speaker 3: since he was thirteen, and he's now the pizza cook

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Speaker 3: so he throws the dough in.

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Speaker 6: The air and recently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's really cool. Yeah, really cool.

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Speaker 4: Have you got a pizza oven at home?

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Speaker 2: No, we didn't yet it now we used to have

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Speaker 6: Our house, yeah, definitely, and Tazzy we built on pizza oven. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and then in our first place here.

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Speaker 2: In Newcastle we built another one.

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Speaker 5: We Ali and I went and saw a house the

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Speaker 5: other day that we're looking, we're looking to buy and

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Speaker 5: they had a pizza oven in the front yard sort

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Speaker 5: of down below the road. It was out of the way,

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Speaker 5: but it was in a courtyard and they clearly used

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Speaker 7: The aroma that was coming out of a coal pizza oven,

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Speaker 7: it just smelt like a pizza box. I mean it was.

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Speaker 2: Enough to buy the house, right.

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Speaker 7: It was amazing. Yeah, it's a pizza oven.

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Speaker 5: Is that something It wears off like the novelty wears

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Speaker 7: Sort of? You were you persistent pizza?

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Speaker 3: It was our parties were always pizza parties, so we

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Speaker 3: were like really big entertainers, you know, always having people

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Speaker 3: over for the weekends, and the pizza oven won't always

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Speaker 3: be lid. And it's such as social things standing around

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Speaker 3: the fire yea oven and communal eating, all those kinds

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it was always weather weather.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you should look at that house again.

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Speaker 4: Beyond our reach. So tell us the engagement story.

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Speaker 6: Never engagement story.

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Speaker 7: It's a bad story.

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Speaker 6: It's a bad story, very very romantic, very.

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Speaker 4: Oh damn, did you go tech heavy on it?

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Speaker 7: It was at home.

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Speaker 6: We actually went and bought the ring together.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we did.

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Speaker 2: We know what was kind of happened, Yeah it was.

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Speaker 6: And there was work function.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a I think it was Christmas Plenty

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Speaker 3: or I don't know, something like that.

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Speaker 6: And I just wanted to show off to the people

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Speaker 6: work that evening, so I did it at home in

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Speaker 6: the kitchen.

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Speaker 2: In front of the street breach. It's like the least

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Speaker 2: romantic story.

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Speaker 6: And then when I hear other stories, I'm thinking.

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Speaker 2: It was a bit.

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Speaker 5: Now we've told our story a few times, but it's yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's pretty much the long line.

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Speaker 7: There wasn't a fridge in bold.

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Speaker 5: Drowning brother in the background after.

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Speaker 4: We just had a fight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my last ditch rescue tempt Look, there's been lots

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Speaker 3: of other romantic things, but that wasn't one of them.

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Speaker 5: The Hawks, Hawks and Hawks and North Melbourne do play down.

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Speaker 4: Never. I just want to get to know you a

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Speaker 6: I think I had one too many wines when I

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Speaker 7: There's a lot of daring.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, the bosses must love you.

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Speaker 4: No, but businesses really need people like that. They need

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Speaker 4: I think that's really it's a really important role. Does

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Steph, you've spoken about food being an act of love.

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Speaker 3: I guess cooking is providing, I guess ultimately, so it

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Speaker 2: I think it also keeps me sane, which is also.

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Speaker 4: I think does it keep you connected to your grandmother

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I find I'm very much a scent person. Like

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Speaker 4: that's what triggers my memory the most. Yes, so I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely it does.

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Speaker 7: As was she growing her own veggies and oh.

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Speaker 2: Mate were concerned. Where was that until I was eight?

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Speaker 3: I grew up in northwest Tasmania, a place called Wynyard, right, yeah,

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Speaker 7: That's that's really cool, Neville. Where did you grow up?

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Speaker 7: I mean you said, do you say Goer.

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Speaker 6: Before did I? Yes? And go I was born in

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Speaker 7: Came here to study on your own.

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Speaker 6: My older brother came here first, and then he moved back,

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Speaker 4: I never left.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's so good. Welcome love Australia. Thank you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: When as you were saying that, it reminds me of

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Speaker 4: Yeah right. I love saying that I'm Irish and that's

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Speaker 5: With ancestry dot Com and one of my ancestors is

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Speaker 4: Everyone's got an ancestor somewhere.

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Speaker 7: Can I just.

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Speaker 5: Go back to you guys with your food and how

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, as we've gotten older, gotten lazy and sit

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Speaker 7: But it's a different, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Very Probably the teenagers doing a lot.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, grunting.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you said that, My goodness, just like a broad.

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Speaker 7: Stroke like fifteen sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of in your bedroom with the

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but that's okay, exactly, Yeah, but we always, we

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Speaker 2: I loved it.

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Speaker 2: Phones weren't allowed.

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Speaker 7: Dogs fed set the table. No phones, Let's see dinner.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, let's have a.

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Speaker 2: Chance for Friday nights, Fay fay. It's a bit different.

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Speaker 7: Take out night for you guys too.

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Speaker 3: Always we go to Blockbuster and get two weekly in

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Speaker 7: That was a real time. I mean walking the aisles

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Speaker 4: Then you have to figure out who is whose choice it.

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Speaker 4: Has the relationship between you has it changed or evolved

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Speaker 4: over time with your success, Steph. I mean maybe that's

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Speaker 3: I think it's changed a lot, because I guess, up

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Speaker 2: It's equaled Neville's. So I guess our partnership.

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Speaker 3: Is very different now to what it was before and busier,

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Speaker 2: Like honestly, we're like so close.

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Speaker 6: To the end.

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Speaker 7: We're in the same position.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I really one of our kids at home now

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Speaker 7: Career as well, her busyness is really.

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Speaker 2: It's really different isn't it very different? Very different?

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Speaker 3: Whereas Nevill's like, you know, gets up in the morning,

453
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 3: goes to work, comes home, whereas I'm like, could be

454
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 3: anywhere at any particular time.

455
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you travel yeah, well, particularly to Sydney, yes. Yeah.

456
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 5: How do you stay connected when you're doing the travel.

457
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 2: Time?

458
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 4: Yeah?

459
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 3: Because again it's hard because Neville's job is so big

460
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 3: as well. It's like he can't just pack up and

461
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 3: come with me, you know, we're going away somewhere else something,

462
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 3: So that.

463
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: Makes it a bit tricky.

464
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 6: I can work remotely, but most of the time I'm

465
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 6: in the office.

466
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 7: You need to be poking people.

467
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. That's exactly what he does.

468
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 7: Come on, imagine he.

469
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 3: Tries to get people to come into the office.

470
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 6: Back to community. Yeah, people hard to have a community remotely.

471
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 4: Steph, you've been so brave and open and honest about

472
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 4: past relationships or relationship I should say that experience. Did

473
00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 4: it shape the way that you love and receive How

474
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 4: did it affect your relationship with Neville in anyway, perhaps

475
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 4: in the earlier days or oh yeah, I.

476
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 3: Remember having this conversation with a friend after Neville and

477
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 3: I'd been together for I don't know, maybe two years

478
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 3: or something. It was a really good friend of both

479
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 3: of ours. Were sitting having a coffee one morning, and

480
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 3: I know it's probably Winy might there for some reason,

481
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 3: I know why.

482
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 2: I can't remember what the contact was.

483
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 3: And I remember he said to me, Oh my god, Steph,

484
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 3: when are you going to stop making Neville jump.

485
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: Through hoops to prove himself?

486
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 3: And it was a bit of a light bulb moment

487
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 3: for me because I probably hadn't realized that that's kind

488
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 3: of what I was doing it either, So I was like, oh, yeah,

489
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: you're probably right. He's not like my ex was. It's

490
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 3: very different and I probably need to just move on maybe,

491
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 3: But it was actually it was really difficult for us

492
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 3: to move on because my X was in our life

493
00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 3: and causing trouble for a very very long time, like

494
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 3: right up until those kids were eighteen.

495
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it was.

496
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when I said. There was a few reasons

497
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 3: we left Tazzy. That was one reason.

498
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 2: We just went like we just have to escape this.

499
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 3: It was just relentless harassment, and I made the tough

500
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 3: call to say right because we had fifty to fifty

501
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 3: shared care, I made the tough call like, Okay, your kids,

502
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 3: you have to decide.

503
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 2: Because I can't live like this.

504
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 3: And it was a really tough call to make, but

505
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 3: I just knew that I couldn't and I had Noah

506
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 3: who I wanted to protect from this abuse as well,

507
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 3: and we just went I can't do it.

508
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 2: So we went through a bit of a mediation process

509
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 2: and all the rest of it. It failed dismally.

510
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 3: He ended up following us, lived closer to us in

511
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 3: in Tazzy.

512
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: It was just a nightmare. But he since passed away.

513
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 3: But once the kids turned eighteen, it really settled down

514
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 3: because it was there was none of that unable to

515
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 3: financially abuse me anymore basically, or abuse me through government

516
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 3: agencies like you know, Center Link and Child's Bought and

517
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 3: you know all those kinds of things.

518
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 2: It was relentless. Yeah, it was really relentless for a

519
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: very long time, and it had a big impact on

520
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 2: us too. D Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

521
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 4: How are the kids now? Have they sort of have

522
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 4: they worked with a therapist or have you worked with

523
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 4: a therapist.

524
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 3: Has that sort of been something that you, Oh, no,

525
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 3: we have this saying in a house where you just

526
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 3: suppress the press, the press like it works.

527
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 6: Really well, it doesn't, and then like ompression.

528
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,479
Speaker 2: Then fresh cookers, then you expect.

529
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 3: Actually, the kids have really flourished since their dad passed away,

530
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 3: And that sounds hartless and terrible, but it's the truth.

531
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 3: They have really flourished because there isn't that dare I

532
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: say manipulation and yeah, yeah, exactly anymore and also just

533
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: playing us against him as well. So our relationship with

534
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: the kids is is much better than what what it.

535
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: Ever used to be.

536
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 3: My daughter has she has gone through She has had

537
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 3: some therapy in the last twelve at eight months to

538
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 3: try and she had some emd are therapy sure, yeah,

539
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: which she's found has been really, really, really successful. So

540
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: she has the other two have it.

541
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: We'll see.

542
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 4: Have they met partners themselves.

543
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: The three older kids and they off and on Tanna,

544
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 2: our middle one, who's expecting our first grandbaby.

545
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 6: Oh I'm not ready to be called pop.

546
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll make it up.

547
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, him and Aaron are together. Derby, she's had

548
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: a few serious relationships, but acknowledges that she's got issues

549
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 3: she needs to work out to be able to do that.

550
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 3: But she's a foster mom, so at the moment she

551
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 3: currently has three foster children in her.

552
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: Care as a single woman. Yeah, she's amazing. She's so cool.

553
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 2: And Melie, No, he doesn't have a partner, but he's

554
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: Mallet is a loose spirit, you know, like he lives

555
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 2: in his band.

556
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, he number three, the third child.

557
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: So different. So so.

558
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 4: How is that for you? Neville? You know, how did

559
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 4: you deal with the abuse for yourself? You're seeing your

560
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 4: your loving wife, you know, the kids in some way involved.

561
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, it's it's very hard. Yeah, well it

562
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 6: was very hard because things like that get dealt differently

563
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 6: in India, whereas you have to play it by the rules. Sure,

564
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 6: and that sounds what they weren't.

565
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 7: They're not played by the rules.

566
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 6: In as in people tend to take things into their

567
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 6: own hands. So when you see a loved one getting hurt,

568
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 6: you want to take matters into your own hands. So

569
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 6: a cricket bat might turn into yeah exactly, And especially

570
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 6: when I witnessed it like personally a couple of times,

571
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 6: and I had to sort of restrain myself because usually

572
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 6: I'm very placid, but then when I see something like that,

573
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 6: I just go from zero to one hundred very quickly.

574
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 6: So it was hard. It was hard on our relationship.

575
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 6: We went through tough periods. It was also tough on

576
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 6: the relationship I had with the Derby Tan and Maalley.

577
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 6: I went from being a single guide to being a

578
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 6: dad virtually overhyped. W was eight at the time, eight

579
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 6: six and three. Yeah, so like I had to work

580
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 6: hard to sort of gain their trust, and you had

581
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 6: the usual on you know, the boss of me and

582
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 6: things like that.

583
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: I was always being undermined as well, which you know,

584
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: you take five steps forward and ten back.

585
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 2: And yeah, it was tricky.

586
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 6: And I come from a background where corporal punishment and

587
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 6: you know, it's like very hierarchical as in some ways,

588
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 6: you know, you respect your parents, et cetera, but there's

589
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 6: no backchat at all a lot. So coming into that

590
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 6: in a different environment, it became very difficult for me

591
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 6: to try and work through that.

592
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not easy. Step kids are not easy anyway,

593
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 4: you know, but it's loaded more.

594
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: For you and culturally loaded.

595
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 9: Sure.

596
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: It was not only was that loaded from the influence

597
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: we were having. But also it was really difficult for

598
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 3: Never culturally because like even he would see our kids

599
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: come home and watch Telly or play outside or do whatever,

600
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 3: and it was like, why are they not starting.

601
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 6: Studying because growing up in India have much free time

602
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 6: because education is such an important part of your life.

603
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 6: You finished school, come home, eat, have rest, and then

604
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 6: it's on your books. Yeah, nine o'clock at night, have dinner,

605
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 6: go to bed, repeat the next day.

606
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 3: I mean, it's so competitive India too. The population is

607
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: so huge. You have to be the topic of your

608
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: game in order to be successful. Whereas here you know

609
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: where we I guess.

610
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, we have a lot, and I imagine that there's

611
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 5: a balance between that. It's like absolutely hit the books

612
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 5: and find balance in our life and play.

613
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I was like the other extreme, it was

614
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 6: sort of survival in the sense that Okay, you need

615
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 6: to make it to the next grade. You don't you

616
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 6: get done go to the next grade until you pass

617
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 6: your exams. So even here, like kids progress from one

618
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 6: grade to the next, whereas we had to go through

619
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 6: exams from grade one that you didn't you know, you

620
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 6: start your exams and you progressed to two, three, four,

621
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 6: et cetera. And then yeah, but if you fail, you

622
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 6: stay back.

623
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, Neville, you must have had to rely on or

624
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 5: employ a.

625
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 7: Massive amount of acceptance. Yep.

626
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 5: And was that part of your makeup before you guys

627
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 5: met or was that something you just had to develop.

628
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 6: I had to develop that because it was a completely

629
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 6: different life, like after meeting Steph and getting immersed in

630
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 6: a different cultural life, so to speak. It took me

631
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 6: a long time, to the point that now recently Noah's

632
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 6: came home from school and said, oh, I hate school,

633
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 6: I don't like the subject, et cetera. Yeah, eleven, pressure

634
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 6: gets added on, and once upon a time I would

635
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 6: have flipped and said, no, you go to school, you

636
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 6: have to pass year eleven, past twelve, university, et cetera,

637
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 6: et cetera. But it didn't bother me, and we just said, okay,

638
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 6: there are other avenues.

639
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah he got over it.

640
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, who got over it? Never?

641
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 6: Or no, no, no.

642
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 3: That like the first couple of months of year eleven

643
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: where they really apply the pressure and they tell you

644
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: need to be.

645
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: Serious, and he was like, what, man, this is scary.

646
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: But he's kind of settled.

647
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 6: Town, whereas we have that pressure right from when we

648
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 6: were young.

649
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 3: Sure now has a really strong work ethic too, So

650
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: he tries to work, you know, twenty five thirty hours

651
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: a week at his part time job as well as

652
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: going to school and you know, which is okay when

653
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: you're in grade ten and soccer and all the rest

654
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: of it.

655
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: So, yeah, he's just had to learn to adjust his

656
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: life a little.

657
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: What does he want to do when he graduates? He

658
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: wants to it's taken subjects that it gives him options.

659
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: So he wants to travel though, like I think the

660
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 3: first he wants to have a year off and go traveling.

661
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 5: So you went through this awful time. Often that's where

662
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 5: we get a lot of our wisdom. You don't sort

663
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 5: of learn a lot when things are really shiny and

664
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 5: bright and successful. You learn when it's in its toughest

665
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 5: about things like what you've been through. What's the wisdom

666
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 5: that you take from those tough times and that you

667
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 5: can employ in your relationship today.

668
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: So much in my relationship and I think my outside

669
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: my life, something that I have learned is I just

670
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: don't accept what's not acceptable to me. I have limits

671
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: and boundaries. They're pretty firm, they're pretty strong, and I'll

672
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: just I'll walk away, like I won't make a fuss,

673
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: but I will just walk away from things.

674
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: And I've had to do that, I guess professionally as well.

675
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: A few times, you know, since I've been on this road,

676
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: you know, with different different things that have come and gone.

677
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: But I think that's probably I won't be treated badly

678
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: by anybody.

679
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: Whereas when I was younger, my.

680
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: Ex was significantly he was ten years older than me

681
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: and we met when I was sixteen, so I always

682
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 3: felt I didn't have that power in that relationship. So

683
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: I've very definitely taken that power back.

684
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 4: How do you protect your private life? I mean, you

685
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 4: are a public person, but how do you protect yourself

686
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 4: from you know, I don't know if you get trolled vera.

687
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 4: But you know, what do you do to put in

688
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 4: place there for a protection.

689
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: I haven't actually found I've needed to, to be honest, I

690
00:33:54,880 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: have such a great community. If I get trolled, community

691
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: come after thee Like honestly, last time, I just do

692
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: not need to.

693
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: I think in the.

694
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 6: Beginning, when you were still building your base, it was

695
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 6: hard used to get trolled.

696
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: I used to get told a bit like probably in

697
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 3: the beginning, I'd get on the wrong side of TikTok

698
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 3: and you go, whoa like anything over a million views

699
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 3: on TikTok, you are definitely going on the wrong side

700
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 3: of TikTok and people come for you and have all

701
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: sorts of opinions. You just learned not to read it

702
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: and not to take it personally. Really, that's kind of

703
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 3: what I do. But as far as outside of social media,

704
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 3: I know, I'm a bit of an open book. Really,

705
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 3: you know, I don't really find it necessary to hide

706
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 3: who I am and what I do.

707
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: I think because I try to be.

708
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 3: I feel like I am authentic, and I think that's

709
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 3: part of the reason why people like what I do

710
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: is because I am authentic and I'm happy to give,

711
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 3: you know, give off myself.

712
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 2: So I don't really find I have to put up

713
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: those boundaries.

714
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 4: Really, how did you feel being invited back to the

715
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 4: second go round?

716
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 6: Yeah?

717
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: It was a bit wild.

718
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, okay, okay, let's see weight wild.

719
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 7: Well it's good.

720
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 2: Look I the first time round was so when I

721
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: when I mustered it for the first time, I actually

722
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 2: quit my job.

723
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: I had a great job, paid really really well, amazing

724
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: conditions all the rest of it, and I quit to go.

725
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: I must.

726
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 3: I didn't have to, but I knew, like line in

727
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 3: the sand, this is it. I'm changing my life because

728
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 3: I was forty six and if I didn't do that,

729
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: and I was going to die in that chair and

730
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: it was slowly eating my soul.

731
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: So just went right was the job.

732
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: I was a HR manager for the Department of Human Services.

733
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a fairly serious kind of job.

734
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 6: I guess I would say, pretty intense.

735
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty intense, which you know, I liked it,

736
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: but it just I knew it wasn't what I was

737
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 3: destined to do or distant to be. So the first

738
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 3: round of mass yet there was so much writing on it,

739
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 3: so much writing on because I like, this was going

740
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: to change my life, that was what I was.

741
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: I wasn't going back to that.

742
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: So when I came twelfth, I was like, oh my god,

743
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 3: Like I was devastated because that wasn't part of the

744
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: plan really. But anyway, I came out and I worked out,

745
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 3: it worked out it and here I am now and

746
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: everything's great. Now, everything's worked out really well. When I

747
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 3: was asked to get back in this time, I was like, firstly,

748
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: at unfinished business.

749
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 4: And you are back to women.

750
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 3: Yes, unfinished business, but also probably unfinished business, not so

751
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: much as far as winning. But I really wanted to

752
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 3: enjoy it this time because the last time, there was

753
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: so much writing on it. It was so much pressure

754
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: on myself. Not nobody else did it but me. I

755
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: wanted to go in and actually enjoy it and have fun.

756
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 2: And I really wanted.

757
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 3: My followers to enjoy that as well. Like I'm really

758
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 3: excited for them to come along with me on this.

759
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: A lot of people didn't even know that I had

760
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: been in our mastership before, so it's been really fun

761
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: going through that already. So when it starts to show

762
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 3: on air, it's going to be really cool.

763
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 4: Now you're launching your is it your second or third cookbook?

764
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: Now?

765
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 4: It's my second second book, second book, Easy Dinner Queen. Yes,

766
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 4: and Queen, Why tell us about Easy Dinner Queen?

767
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: Easy Dinner Queen.

768
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: So this is the book that I wanted to write

769
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: first off, but I didn't kind of have the power

770
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: to choose that for myself. You know, when you just

771
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 3: your first book, I didn't have as many followers as

772
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 3: I do.

773
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 6: Now how many do you have?

774
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 4: Yeah?

775
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: About three million altogether. Yeah. Pretty, it's pretty wild, isn't it.

776
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 7: Is it international or just a three mini?

777
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's international.

778
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 3: I have about forty five percent or Australian okay, yeah,

779
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 3: which is pretty good.

780
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah see so yeah, yeah overseas as well.

781
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 7: Yeah.

782
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 3: So they asked me to write their air fry book

783
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 3: because I was doing a lot ofir fry content back

784
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 3: then it was really hot, so that's why I did

785
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 3: air Fry Queen first. But my followers were really asking

786
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 3: for this.

787
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 2: Easy Dinner Queen.

788
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 3: They wanted, you know, the really simple, easy stuff, minimal ingredients,

789
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: one pan, trade bake kind of things. So yeah, this

790
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 3: is the one that I really wanted to do.

791
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great.

792
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 7: We're excited.

793
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 5: We're excited to have this book because we do. We

794
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 5: do a lot of trade trade baking. Would do you

795
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 5: guys split the cooking up?

796
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 3: By the way, I genuinely cooking dinner is my favorite

797
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 3: part of the day.

798
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

799
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 6: I do love to cook.

800
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes on a Sunday I'll let him cook. Yeah,

801
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 3: if I'm hungover and I can't be bothered.

802
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 4: Easier the better for us in a way, isn't it.

803
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 7: I love that simpler, the better.

804
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

805
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so my followers love anything that's in one pan.

806
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, pop it on a train in the oven,

807
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: slow cooker, you know those kinds of if.

808
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 7: You've got slow cookers this.

809
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I've got four chapters in the book.

810
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: One is one pan, one is tray banks, one is

811
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: slow cooker, and the other one is one bowl.

812
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 2: So that's sweets and treaty. You make me one bowl,

813
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: I love.

814
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 4: I love your catchphrase as well that food should be.

815
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: Fun not fussy.

816
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 4: I love that.

817
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you made fun not fun fussy aprons. Yeah, but

818
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: where where do you do this stuff?

819
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 4: Like?

820
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: I have so many ideas of stuff that I want

821
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 3: to do, I've just got no time.

822
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

823
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 4: Would you love to have your own range of spices

824
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 4: or that stuff?

825
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's all like I have a list, you know,

826
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: I have a list of things, and it's just actually

827
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 3: the next thing, which I have literally just started in

828
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks, is we're creating a meal plan,

829
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: so a subscription meal plan. So it probably won't be

830
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: out until July because we need about three months worth

831
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: the content first. Yeah, so it'll just be five weeknight

832
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: dinners on one little sweet tree and we'll send it

833
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 3: to you once a week. I have a shopping list.

834
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: It'll be quick, simple or like my other dishes. Yeah,

835
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 3: it's just something people have been asking for. I think

836
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 3: that's something that we can do.

837
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. How do you support Steph when she's in the

838
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 4: midst of all this creativity and running here there, and.

839
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 7: You're doing well for your podcast? You are you are

840
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 7: nailing this, mate?

841
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 6: He speaks, Yeah, because I'll come home and I look

842
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 6: at Steph, will be in the kitchen cooking, and I say,

843
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 6: do you need a hand? I know the answer, yeah,

844
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 6: but I have to ask.

845
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 4: Do you do the cleaning?

846
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 6: The no, Noah does the cleaning?

847
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 2: I said, on the couch watch Telly, or on the computer.

848
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 6: Wat you know, No, that's on the Telly.

849
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 8: Yeah.

850
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: After I go to bed, I go to bed and

851
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 3: YouTube comes on girls girls Yeah.

852
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, a whole different ways of viewing things. People go, We've

853
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 5: got to make this in to a TV show. I'm like, nah,

854
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 5: maybe we just put it on YouTube.

855
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 6: Tube back here, We've got all these subscriptions, but I

856
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 6: end up watching YouTube.

857
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 2: I never support if he does support me a lot.

858
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 3: I think, you know, if I'm going like coming down

859
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 3: to do the morning show or sunrise or something. You know,

860
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: like he does things like he carries my boxes down

861
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: to the car and helps me do things like that.

862
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: You know, he fills up my car with petrol.

863
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: Even just a coming words or something like that, because

864
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 3: like I get a bit frantic sometimes as well.

865
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 5: In that frantic when you go and do a morning show,

866
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 5: do you get nervous or anxious about those sort of things?

867
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, not anymore, It's funny.

868
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, why do you think that is?

869
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 3: I just think I'm comfortable in front of the camera now.

870
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: I just it just feels, it feels normal.

871
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: Now, it's not something that I'm concerned about anymore.

872
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 5: I find when I am and you mentioned before, when

873
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 5: I'm connected to my joy of what I'm doing and

874
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 5: also been grateful for that opportunity of doing it, that

875
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 5: the nerves and anxiety that I would feel are way less.

876
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 3: Actually, that's really interesting you say that, because I hadn't

877
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 3: really thought about until you just said that, And I

878
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 3: feel like I know what I'm talking about. Yeah, you know,

879
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 3: and I like what I do, so yeah, that's probably

880
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: why the nerves aren't there like they used to be.

881
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

882
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 3: And also the host, I mean their job is to

883
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 3: make you feel comfortable, right, And they're so good at

884
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 3: what they do. They're so good at what they absolutely.

885
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he had great treading with Master chef as

886
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,479
Speaker 6: and you know it was intense in cameras and having

887
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 6: to perform men.

888
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that first time was very intimidating. But also

889
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 3: mashav is a great training ground, so it's really like

890
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 3: very very intense, but you actually learn a lot about

891
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: being in the media industry while you're there.

892
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: You know about how.

893
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 3: To answer questions and having a camera in your face

894
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: and like, honestly, I said, if you don't give it

895
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 3: to this, we're it's going to keep asking.

896
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: So you learn really quickly how to act so they

897
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: get out of your hair so you get cooking.

898
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 7: That's cool.

899
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, And also like moments like you know, if there's

900
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: a moment that is going to be good with the camera,

901
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: you'll just look over the camera and goes do you

902
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 3: want to film this, and go oh yeah, and they

903
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 3: will come over it. Yeah, you know, when you're opening

904
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: the oven door or whatever, just because they'll look after

905
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 3: you if you look after them.

906
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

907
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 5: So would that be the advice that you would give

908
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 5: any Master Chef contestant.

909
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, and also cook two dishes, so one

910
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 3: for the judges to try when it's warm and delicious

911
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 3: and one for them to try when it's not quite

912
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 3: so warm and delicious.

913
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: Because they try all the food, I.

914
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 4: Know, and if you're like number twelve to be trying

915
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 4: the food like you've it's been.

916
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: Seen there whole time.

917
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah it has so, Yeah, you're just a little sneaky

918
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 3: and yeah, all right, okay.

919
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 5: Right, that's not something that's told you. Like if you're

920
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 5: a rookie on that show, you just cooked one dish

921
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 5: and then that's the one that they're going to photograph

922
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 5: and it's going to get cold while that happens, and

923
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 5: then they've got to they've got to taste that.

924
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, once you do the too, that's yeah.

925
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: So everybody who was who is back to win this year,

926
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: that won't be an advantage because everybody will know that's right,

927
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 3: everybody will be onto it.

928
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 6: I think you should ask a favorite dish. Would you

929
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 6: like me to tell you dish? Thing to eat? Croissants?

930
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: You're a jerk. It's such a jerk. That's how I

931
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: got eliminated. Do you loun croissant?

932
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 3: So there's amazing croissant house in Melbourne.

933
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: They're in Sydney too.

934
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 4: Now actually i've just heard about these. I just my.

935
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: Wife, Yes, yes.

936
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 4: And so you went to make one of those?

937
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to make this loon croissant. It was

938
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: like at the time, it was the longest Maschi of

939
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 3: challenge ever.

940
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: It was over two days. I was nailing it until

941
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: six minutes before the end of the challenge. I made

942
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,959
Speaker 2: one mistake. Look, all I did was.

943
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 3: So you had to it was full of the cross

944
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 3: was full of franchipan. So after you had baked the croissant,

945
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 3: you had to fill it with this chocolate franchipan. Right,

946
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 3: So you had to put it back in the oven

947
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 3: and you had to put it back in the oven separate.

948
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 3: So the top here and the base here. And I

949
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 3: just missed that step and I put them together, so

950
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: the middle didn't cook as well as what it could.

951
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 4: I know.

952
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:43,959
Speaker 9: Life goes on still croissants again, So well that dad

953
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 9: by heart.

954
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 4: Okay, if if if your partner was a.

955
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 6: Dish, well say something else.

956
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 4: Okay, what what dish would stuff be?

957
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 2: If she's interesting?

958
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 6: Let's see, well a black forest cake?

959
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 4: Why why black forest cake.

960
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 6: Because it's delicious. It's my favorite thing to eat when

961
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 6: it comes to sweets. And then a Vinda.

962
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 7: You say, vin dalund.

963
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 4: We said the whole wrong way.

964
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 7: Fastest and the completely different.

965
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 4: I'm going to say that next time.

966
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, restaurant, and I'll go, are you from you?

967
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 6: How about you with Irish heritage?

968
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 4: What's never?

969
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 7: What?

970
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: What's he is a dish? I'm going to say, let's

971
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: call him my croissant.

972
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 7: Because you like to dip in, because.

973
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 4: Because he's not cooked in the middle.

974
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 3: I want to say, because his layers. I want to say,

975
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 3: because his layers, like I just yeah. And it's one

976
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 3: of these people that is very actually quite quiet. But

977
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: underneath that quiet, he's probably one of the most social

978
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: people I know, Like he's the social calendar coordinator for

979
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: all of our friends and Noah's soccer team and at

980
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 3: work and everybody, and yet he's quiet and there's a

981
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 3: lot underneath, Like it takes a bit of a while

982
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 3: to get in there, but you peel on those legers

983
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 3: of that croissant and you get there eventually, and.

984
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 4: They're really yummy.

985
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 7: Lay Yeah, I like to dig my croissant into a cappuccino.

986
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 6: French of you.

987
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 7: It's so good. It's so good. Question.

988
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 5: Okay, if your children could learn one lesson from watching

989
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 5: you two together, what would you hope that that lesson is?

990
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 7: I what do you mean?

991
00:47:54,880 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: I think when when I separated the first time, I

992
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 3: looked around it all of the successful relationships that I

993
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 3: had around me and really really looked at what it

994
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: was that made them successful. Well not I mean, not everything, obviously,

995
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 3: but there was one core thing that I noticed with

996
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 3: all of them, and that was that they were the

997
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 3: opposite of each other. So I think if I could

998
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: teach my kids one thing was big, don't don't look

999
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 3: for someone that is you, look for someone that compliments

1000
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 3: you when you're looking for a partner. And I think

1001
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 3: that is a great springboard to start a relationship.

1002
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 4: Beautiful, that's great, Oh me.

1003
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: That's what they call him.

1004
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's say patients as well. So opposites definitely, but

1005
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 6: patients because life will throw your curve balls endlessly and

1006
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 6: if you don't have that and sometimes a thick skin.

1007
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 6: I'll learn to have a thick skin, then you'll just

1008
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 6: get swallowed up alive.

1009
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 5: We do a thing called the pulse on the heart

1010
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 5: of it, so we'd like you both to answer the

1011
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 5: same question.

1012
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, okay, I think I know the answer to

1013
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 6: the first one.

1014
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 2: So what brings you joy? Food and wine?

1015
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, the same. We got a lot, far too much.

1016
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 7: What do you miss when you're not together?

1017
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 2: Conversation? I would say.

1018
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 6: The same, Yeah, time spent together going out having a chat,

1019
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 6: because quite often what happens is when we are home,

1020
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 6: sit in front of the telly, have dinner and watch

1021
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 6: a show and then spared, whereas when you go out

1022
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 6: it's an excuse.

1023
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: To look at each other face to face.

1024
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 6: Face to face, have a conversation.

1025
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk for us all two hours.

1026
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1027
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 4: Is there one time in your lives that you would

1028
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 4: like to revisit?

1029
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 7: The start?

1030
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 2: The start?

1031
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, really the start?

1032
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: We're not do again, but revisit Is that what you mean?

1033
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's say revisit. Revisit as in the emotions the

1034
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 6: roller coaster? Yeah ride?

1035
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1036
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 7: Was that a positive thing? Or was that something that

1037
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 7: it was?

1038
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 6: It was that something you want to it was positive?

1039
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 4: It was flush?

1040
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, at least have so much fun. Got married, Yeah,

1041
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: now we're serious.

1042
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 6: And we used to sneak away and go to Melbourne.

1043
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, we both had this amazing memory of

1044
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 3: this trip.

1045
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 6: We went to Melbourne week that's right.

1046
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: We booked really cheap.

1047
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 3: This is when we were broken, you know, had four

1048
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 3: little three little kids, and it was you know, life

1049
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: wasn't easy back then, and we nearly canceled them because

1050
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 3: we like, we were so broke and we didn't really

1051
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 3: have enough money to go wait in Melbourne. In the

1052
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 3: end we went right, well let's go and we had

1053
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 3: a budget of twenty dollars a day.

1054
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 2: We went for a weekend for three days. We had

1055
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: a budget of twenty dollars a day.

1056
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 3: Honestly still to this day, the best weekend we've ever had.

1057
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was amazing.

1058
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 6: We had to be creative, free.

1059
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 4: Stuff to do, time to re create you to Yeah, we've.

1060
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: Crashed this.

1061
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 3: Art exhibition exhibition and it was invitation and we crashed

1062
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 3: it with well, we had dinner there, we got drunk

1063
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 3: champagne best so cool.

1064
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 4: Sorry are you revisiting that too?

1065
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I have just revisited.

1066
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: Haven't I to do that again?

1067
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 5: The twenty bucks wouldn't cover a Chrystal coffee the following morning.

1068
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, hanging to triple it now?

1069
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, eleven dollars right anyway, alrighty one word to

1070
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 5: describe each other, giving.

1071
00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: Keeping I'm stuck. There's so many words in my head.

1072
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 4: You can have more than one, if can I Yeah.

1073
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 2: Today, maybe.

1074
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 3: I want to say maybe a little bit mysterious, I

1075
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 3: think is what I want to say. And yeah, you

1076
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 3: never quite know what's under there, what's going on, and

1077
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 3: it's always like a little an interesting conversation and an

1078
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,919
Speaker 3: interesting opinion or you know, something like that.

1079
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 7: So your word would be isn't there a superhero.

1080
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: Language?

1081
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 4: Neville and Steph, thank you so much for your time,

1082
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 4: good luck with everything that's coming up for you. That's

1083
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 4: so exciting. And we can follow you on Instagram. You

1084
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 4: know you're you're all over the place, so we can

1085
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 4: buy your books. Sorry, it'll bit. We can get more

1086
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 4: of Steph, and.

1087
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 7: We can eat the cookies.

1088
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 2: Enjoy the cookie. Yeah, thanks for having it. Thank you,