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Speaker 1: Appoche production.

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Speaker 2: On this episode of We Will Always Have. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: six men in four years.

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Speaker 1: And he's rubbing a face in it. I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've had six men over four hours.

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Speaker 3: This is season four of We Will Always Have, where

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Speaker 3: me and Chrissy are exploring the Blue Mountains, a place

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Speaker 3: that I have visited countless times as a child and

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Speaker 3: my parents now call home.

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Speaker 2: I love it here. It is the depth of winter.

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Speaker 2: It is cold.

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Speaker 3: We've spent a very busy five days doing a bunch

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Speaker 3: of activities and sitting down and just having a laugh.

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Speaker 2: So please enjoy season four of We Will Always Have.

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Speaker 1: We're first coming to the end of these Would you

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Speaker 1: rather have your Internet search history leaked publicly once a year,

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Speaker 1: have your phone automatically read out your last three voice

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Speaker 1: notes at a random moment in public. I'll do the

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Speaker 1: later one latter one. That's funny, you would, yeah, because my.

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Speaker 2: Voice internet history would be how to crowcheap daffodils?

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Speaker 1: No, how do I find my last history?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Hang on, here we go, Here we go?

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I looked at boutique Love Anchor. I looked up sunglasses,

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Speaker 1: link Tree travel online is raw sugar kito.

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Speaker 2: Fucking snooze, I'm not reading my search history.

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Speaker 1: It's original crunchy chili oil. Oh fuck, I have to

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Speaker 1: tell you about.

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Speaker 2: The original crunchy chili oil.

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Speaker 1: This is amazing. I'll tell you about it more later.

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Speaker 1: We went to the Fabulous Look, I'll share the photo.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: It's crunchy chili oil. Honey. When do you put it

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Speaker 1: on boiled eggs?

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Speaker 2: On me? Where did you buy it?

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Speaker 1: I got it at this what was it called? Find

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Speaker 1: not find as Keepers. It's a fantastic market. They only

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Speaker 1: run it a couple of times a year, so it's

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Speaker 1: not like so I'm going to have to get it online.

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Speaker 2: Our grab the company.

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Speaker 1: It's Soca s Oka Okay, Soca Pantry. It's just incredib.

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Speaker 2: Love good chili oil.

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Speaker 1: Just a little bit of it, honey, and it's got

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Speaker 1: olive oil in it, and it's just absolutely magic. This

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Speaker 1: was something I got from the Makers and Shakers market.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard of them? Their own tsion? So they

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Speaker 1: have slow fashions, Yeah, what is it? I don't know anyway,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? They had this woman. How

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Speaker 1: clever is this?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: This woman has collected all of the old vintage blankets

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Speaker 1: you know the ones as a kid, did you have them?

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Speaker 1: And they were like really really they were rough and

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Speaker 1: they were check and they.

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Speaker 2: Yes, remember, yes, I've got one.

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Speaker 1: Yes, right, Okay, it's really really itchy itchy. What she's

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Speaker 1: done is she's collected up all of these vintage blankets

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Speaker 1: and has turned them into jackets. Now the jackets are

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Speaker 1: so soft, amazing, so so clever. She was just only

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Speaker 1: one of heaps of people there. We lined up for

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Speaker 1: the best croissant, like you know when it's just so flaky.

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Speaker 1: And I love all of those markets, I think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one in Brisbane called the Great Artist Market. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I love it so cooled, spent so much money there.

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Speaker 1: So I'll definitely get you one of those.

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Speaker 2: Oils and you're happy to play the last voice note

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Speaker 2: that you left.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Have I you've got my last voicemail message?

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Speaker 2: Do you use voice memos?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't keep them. Have you kept any

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Speaker 1: of mine?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? All of them? Show people. Yeah, this is how

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Speaker 2: I work with.

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Speaker 1: This is the absolutely drop. Oh god, double numbers. What

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Speaker 1: angel numbers? It's eight eleven one one. It means the

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Speaker 1: angels are looking after us.

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Speaker 2: I thought an angel number had to be three consecutives

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Speaker 2: like six sixty six.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, that's hardly a bloody angel number.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that the devil number? Do you believe in all

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Speaker 2: that shit? I?

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Speaker 1: No, But since you know, grief took over, I now

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Speaker 1: see the signs I associated with. Oh, they're there for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm yet to find a feather this trip. What does

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Speaker 1: that significant means that they're definitely here with me?

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Speaker 2: Can we talk about it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Who are we talking about?

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Speaker 1: So? I'm talking about my mum and my brother?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to ask some really personal questions and feel

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Speaker 2: free to be.

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Speaker 1: Like I might well up, but that's okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when did mum and brother?

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Speaker 1: So my mom died? I think it was twenty twenty one, Oh,

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Speaker 1: really recently, and then six months later my brother.

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Speaker 2: Oh shit, so it's been yeah it hasn't been Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: Well twenty two. Yeah, it's not been that long ago.

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Speaker 2: How old were they?

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Speaker 1: My mum was seventy seven. She had suffered from the

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Speaker 1: buck Yeah, she had suffered from a autoimmune disease for

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Speaker 1: many years, and then just yeah, I just couldn't do

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Speaker 1: it anymore. God, lover, she fought the hard fight, right,

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Speaker 1: you would have loved my mother. She was so inapproached.

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Speaker 2: We would have bitched about you and how painful you are?

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Speaker 1: I did you got there quick? Done?

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Speaker 2: Did you have a good relationship with mum?

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Speaker 1: There is always that mother daughter thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a bit sad, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's just the rite of passage. But

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when things got into

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Speaker 1: the mud, like into the shit, it was really really good.

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Speaker 2: Things got into the shit, like when.

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Speaker 1: She got really unwell. Yeah, because she got really unwell

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Speaker 1: during COVID and she was living her best life up

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Speaker 1: in the Central Coast, having such a great.

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Speaker 1: She left it up there and she had a fabulous

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Speaker 1: community and she did what she wanted to do, and

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Speaker 2: From Sydney to like Gosford, it was we couldn't actually,

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Speaker 1: What fifty comedy he would be allowed to So I

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Speaker 1: to the point where she just couldn't anymore. One thing

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Speaker 1: end I just had to say, Mum, I'm sorry, but

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Speaker 1: how was that she went to the loveliest residential home. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not.

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Speaker 2: Assisted life is different.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, residential is meaning twenty four hour care. Independent living

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Speaker 1: is they're living their best life.

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Speaker 2: They're living it just community groups and craft groups. Is

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Speaker 1: I'd love you to come and have a look at

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Speaker 1: our village.

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Speaker 2: So it was because you work at Are you an

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Speaker 2: independent living?

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Speaker 1: We're independent, we're retirement. So we have our fabulous residence

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Speaker 1: over the age of fifty five, Yes, who buy into

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Speaker 1: their beautiful apartment and they are I'm telling you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bougie, Yeah, because you're at the high end, gorgeous,

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Speaker 2: the high end independent living, the wealthy CEOs and billionaires.

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Speaker 1: Yes, just amazing and so talented, right, so clever.

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Speaker 2: So your mum went into My mum went into.

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Speaker 1: A residential which means that she required twenty four hour care.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: I did up her room before she came, so as

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Speaker 1: she was being transported from Gosford down, I got all

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Speaker 2: Because they're small rooms. I'm just trying to remember if

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Speaker 2: my nan went into residential, because she would have been

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Speaker 2: she was out like snives. Yeah, you park underneath and

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Speaker 2: it's just like all these little one bedroom to your apartments.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful. Was that a hostel? I felt that one because

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Speaker 1: they do they did she need to kind of hostel help?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Frail and older and I thought she had.

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Speaker 1: A great time. She had friends, she'd go for lunch

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Speaker 1: in the common areas, we'd go out, we'd go shopping.

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Speaker 1: And then just as her health decline, the nurses were

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Speaker 1: just so beautiful, the nurses that they have, they just

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Speaker 1: are not paid enough, the sault of the earth. God

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Speaker 2: And how do you process grief? Were you angel numbers before?

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Speaker 2: Were you spiritual before all this?

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Speaker 1: I've always been a little bit spiritual. I think, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not to the point now, I mean, mum died.

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Speaker 1: I said to her as she passed, I said, or

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Speaker 1: that you're okay. And two days later my mum was

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Speaker 1: passionate about cooker Borroughs. She just loved Crooko Barres right,

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Speaker 2: I hope it swooped it you and pecked your eye,

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Speaker 2: because then I'd be like, well, that was obviously a

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Speaker 2: sign if you're just like And then one flew by.

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Speaker 1: And then but on the ground was a cook a

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Speaker 1: bar of feather. Oh, and we had we had like

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Speaker 1: a cover over the back, like you could sit underneath cover.

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Speaker 1: So it was very very hard for a cooker Barrow's feather.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen a cooker borough of feather.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've kept it beautifully.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I said, all right, you're okay, then, Maria's good

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Speaker 2: God, I just wish cook Barro swept it as while

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Speaker 2: we were two hundred and seventy meters in the air.

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Speaker 1: That would have been mum, ye ganging up, bloody hell,

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Speaker 1: are you're doing up here girl. But then six months later, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: my brother passed away six months yeah, of cancer. Fuck,

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Speaker 1: three days before Max's thirtieth birthday. It was really tough.

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Speaker 2: Was it sudden? No?

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Speaker 1: No, he had he had had gore bladder cancer which

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Speaker 1: kind of spread into the liver and around the surrounding

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Speaker 1: stomach areas. Younger, yes, yes, How old was he? He

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Speaker 1: was fifty when he passed. We had his fiftieth birthday

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Speaker 1: in December and he was gone in Apien. Oh shit, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you would have loved him. He was.

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Speaker 2: You showed me some photos. He were very opposite.

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Speaker 1: Ah.

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Speaker 2: He just dressed very not that you don't dress nicely.

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Speaker 2: He was just very immaculous.

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Speaker 1: Immaculates, very stylish.

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Speaker 2: Was he fastidious?

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Speaker 1: What does that mean?

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Speaker 2: Like had his processes and was like, okay, well the

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Speaker 2: coasters going to the cups?

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Speaker 1: Oh god, yes absolutely. And if his beautiful wife's listening,

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Speaker 1: she'd been yelling down the headphones, yes, absolutely. My brother

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's interesting because MJC Maria Jason, Christine and

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Speaker 1: Yeah. We used to say it's a freak show. It's

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Speaker 2: It's a freak show and reference to your life.

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Speaker 1: He's not talking to me it currently and left me unread.

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Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely, chatting channing, chatting, And he's like, can I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he does, he does. He's very demanding.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any strategies for coping with grief?

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Speaker 1: To be hand on?

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Speaker 1: Honest, it's not one of my favorite emotions, so I

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Speaker 1: kind of try and keep it at bay. Some people say,

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Speaker 1: I can't do that because I don't think i'd come out.

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Speaker 2: The other Yeah, that's my worry.

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Speaker 2: Do you go to visit Graves?

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Speaker 1: Oh god, no, no, no, no no. My mum is in

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Speaker 1: a beautiful urn. My brother has a beautiful little spot

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Speaker 1: Well, they're just in the house at the moment. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Accidentally vacuumed something.

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Speaker 1: I didn't really have a good relationship with my father, okay, right,

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Speaker 1: It was one of the ones where you buy something

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Speaker 1: opened it up. It's my father's sashes. It's his box.

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Speaker 2: You didn't know he passed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we passed. But I had no idea that she

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Speaker 1: That was so confronting. Yeah, said, what the bloody hell

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Speaker 2: That's a friend of mine has a very similar story.

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Speaker 1: And there we go. Yeah, but no, look, grief is

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Speaker 1: Oh, just the funny laughs that you just then wet

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Speaker 1: We were always beautifully dressed. She took pride in us.

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Speaker 2: What a lovely, lovely thing for her to do.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like dad.

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Speaker 2: We would have What type of antiques are we talking?

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Speaker 1: But I know because Jack was the banker. Yep, he

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Speaker 2: With I didn't realize Jack was a banker. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: Does very well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, very well. Good, Well thanks for sharing.

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Speaker 1: Oh look, thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're sorting these things by length length. This is

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Speaker 2: Now we're going longest to shortest official tennis court an anaconda,

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Speaker 1: All right, okay, the longest.

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Speaker 2: The worm's got to be the shortest worm. Would a

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Speaker 2: worm be bigger than a yacht, the giant salamander, which

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I reckon anaconda or the snake.

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Speaker 2: Anaconda is the snake?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So anaconda?

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Speaker 2: And what was the other thing, giant salamander?

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Speaker 2: No way, the giant salamander is bigger than an official

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Speaker 2: tennis court. Okay, So I think it would go anaconda,

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Speaker 2: tennis court, tennis court, yacht, salamander, worm. Okay, do you agree?

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Speaker 1: I'll go with that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good luck?

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Speaker 1: Nowhere near nowhere near there you go?

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Speaker 2: Thirty meters? Wow, that's damn it. Tennis caught a number

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: you saw, but sitting in a huge pile was this

441
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,801
Speaker 2: big stack of magazines and I.

442
00:21:59,721 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 1: Saw you standing there looking for Thank god, what is

443
00:22:03,441 --> 00:22:04,241
Speaker 1: he doing with them?

444
00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:08,641
Speaker 2: Yeah? So so I found a magazine New Idea. What's

445
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: so great about that? From October of nineteen seventy two.

446
00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: So let's just put that into perspective.

447
00:22:15,321 --> 00:22:18,281
Speaker 2: What was happening in nineteen two years old? Oh wow,

448
00:22:18,721 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 2: I was two? Yeah, right, what was going on at

449
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,721
Speaker 2: the time? We had well golf, Whitlam was elected Rangers.

450
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:26,681
Speaker 2: At the end of seventy two.

451
00:22:26,721 --> 00:22:29,961
Speaker 1: It was even a really exciting time for Australia because

452
00:22:30,001 --> 00:22:32,561
Speaker 1: so many things that goff had been bringing in, like

453
00:22:33,041 --> 00:22:35,961
Speaker 1: medicare and UNI pain.

454
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: I think it was the turning point. I think the

455
00:22:38,001 --> 00:22:40,321
Speaker 2: start of the seventies was a turning point for free education.

456
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 2: You have medicare, you had all of that stuff coming

457
00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:46,001
Speaker 2: into play. It was very progressive. The sixties were free

458
00:22:46,001 --> 00:22:48,241
Speaker 2: love or seventy well the seventies free love.

459
00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:50,561
Speaker 1: Which was hippie, Well hippy were the sixties.

460
00:22:50,801 --> 00:22:52,561
Speaker 2: Seventies were let's have sex with everyone.

461
00:22:52,681 --> 00:22:54,921
Speaker 1: Well that was the sixties, but I think people kind

462
00:22:54,921 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 1: of started maturing, like the crocheting was a little bit more,

463
00:22:59,481 --> 00:23:01,241
Speaker 1: you know, water and.

464
00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:04,521
Speaker 2: So in this magazine, I want to show you. Look

465
00:23:04,521 --> 00:23:08,961
Speaker 2: at this ad, right, look at that ad there share

466
00:23:09,041 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 2: for sharing sh sexy odorant. Wow, like in the seventies.

467
00:23:15,241 --> 00:23:18,681
Speaker 2: And there's this very hasute man with a big mustache.

468
00:23:19,041 --> 00:23:23,001
Speaker 2: It's so seventies. And then there's a section here and

469
00:23:23,001 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 2: now I think this section which I haven't read, I

470
00:23:25,721 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 2: saw the title, and I've got to bring this up

471
00:23:27,961 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 2: with you, Kristin.

472
00:23:28,481 --> 00:23:29,761
Speaker 1: How do you can smell the pages?

473
00:23:29,921 --> 00:23:34,201
Speaker 2: Okay? The columnist is Elizabeth Wise. Now I just want

474
00:23:34,241 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: you to have a look at Elizabeth Wise and explain

475
00:23:36,001 --> 00:23:39,041
Speaker 2: to me what she looks like because photos.

476
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:44,241
Speaker 1: There, Yeah, look, that is extraordinary hair. She's an older woman, do.

477
00:23:44,241 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 2: You think, because sometimes people like their for in their

478
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 2: late forties.

479
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 1: What draws my attention is to the side panels here right?

480
00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:54,801
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, I want to get there.

481
00:23:54,921 --> 00:23:57,481
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to get there. Okay, now that's okay. Then, well,

482
00:23:57,561 --> 00:24:01,321
Speaker 1: if Elizabeth does look to be it looks like, oh

483
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,321
Speaker 1: they smell of those pages are quite read?

484
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,721
Speaker 2: Well, do you know what smells like going NaN's house.

485
00:24:06,801 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: That's cute. Oh so Elizabeth, I would say late forties,

486
00:24:13,561 --> 00:24:14,241
Speaker 2: early fifties.

487
00:24:14,481 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 1: Oh at least yes.

488
00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:19,161
Speaker 2: This section is called have you a problem question mark?

489
00:24:19,521 --> 00:24:21,561
Speaker 2: And I think it's Dolly doctor s oh.

490
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,321
Speaker 1: I love it.

491
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,921
Speaker 2: This first one says some people won't help themselves. It's

492
00:24:27,921 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: difficult to help those who won't help themselves, and even

493
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: more difficult to help the person who does not know

494
00:24:33,801 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 2: her own mind. Sometimes relatives or friends for whom one

495
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: feels responsible present problems in the direction. This girl is

496
00:24:42,721 --> 00:24:45,481
Speaker 2: very worried about her mother. So that was from Elizabeth.

497
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,481
Speaker 2: One must always present one So that's the sea, that's

498
00:24:49,481 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 2: the language going on.

499
00:24:50,441 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: And Dellie Watkins kind of reeks in this.

500
00:24:53,521 --> 00:24:55,401
Speaker 2: Okay, So this is the letter that has been sent

501
00:24:55,481 --> 00:24:56,201
Speaker 2: into Elizabeth.

502
00:24:56,241 --> 00:24:57,561
Speaker 1: Okay, what's Lizzie got to?

503
00:24:57,801 --> 00:25:01,721
Speaker 2: Please help me to understand my mother, who is forty five.

504
00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:05,041
Speaker 2: She is constantly driving me up the wall with herself

505
00:25:05,201 --> 00:25:10,081
Speaker 2: pitying attitude and her constant nagging that I should get married.

506
00:25:10,961 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: She has had two marriage failures and a nervous breakdown

507
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,281
Speaker 2: and has been left with many debts, but she won't

508
00:25:17,321 --> 00:25:18,521
Speaker 2: ask for help with these.

509
00:25:18,681 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: Well, she's a woman.

510
00:25:20,521 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 2: I'm the eldest of four, three of whom are still

511
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,241
Speaker 2: at home. She nags us that we don't help her,

512
00:25:26,521 --> 00:25:29,521
Speaker 2: but we're not mine readers, and unless she tells us

513
00:25:29,521 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 2: what she wants from us, how are we to know.

514
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:36,281
Speaker 2: The most aggravating point is that she is always saying

515
00:25:36,321 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 2: she is ugly and should die sad, she stays at

516
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,121
Speaker 2: home and works, and that nobody loves her. But as

517
00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: soon as I offer to take her out in brackets,

518
00:25:47,441 --> 00:25:51,641
Speaker 2: I even get the tickets beforehand, she refuses to budge.

519
00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: Usually the day before a planned outing, she says she

520
00:25:55,961 --> 00:25:59,561
Speaker 2: is going, but the next day makes excuses for refusing

521
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,041
Speaker 2: to go, such as the garden needs doing.

522
00:26:03,441 --> 00:26:06,201
Speaker 1: Well, she's got social wings it sounds like.

523
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,201
Speaker 2: It when she is not carrying on like this. She's

524
00:26:09,241 --> 00:26:12,041
Speaker 2: a lovable person and I really do love her, but

525
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,801
Speaker 2: she is confusing me so much. At times I could scream,

526
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,561
Speaker 2: please advise.

527
00:26:17,241 --> 00:26:19,281
Speaker 1: Me, Oh sweethearts.

528
00:26:20,521 --> 00:26:22,361
Speaker 2: I would love to know how old the daughter is.

529
00:26:22,561 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: Well, if mum was set at forty five, it was.

530
00:26:25,441 --> 00:26:27,801
Speaker 2: Forty five, yeah, yeah, she must.

531
00:26:27,681 --> 00:26:29,681
Speaker 1: Have had her young. She's got another three.

532
00:26:29,521 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: Behind well she could be well what in the seventies.

533
00:26:32,561 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 2: If the daughter was twenty, that would put the daughter

534
00:26:35,481 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: born in the fifth Yeah, okay, so anyway, this is

535
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: what Elizabeth has written.

536
00:26:40,961 --> 00:26:43,001
Speaker 1: Oh, please be nice, Elizabeth, come.

537
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,441
Speaker 2: On, Oh I'm nervous. Oh, your mother must be suffering

538
00:26:46,561 --> 00:26:50,441
Speaker 2: from an abysmal sense of failure with two broken marriages.

539
00:26:51,041 --> 00:26:54,121
Speaker 2: But I can see the reason for your impatience and despair,

540
00:26:54,521 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 2: because it is almost impossible to help her when she

541
00:26:57,481 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 2: is so steadfastly refusing to be helped. She elects to

542
00:27:02,561 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: die rather than live, and all attempts to give her

543
00:27:06,041 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 2: happiness are rejected out of hand. I'm sure she is

544
00:27:10,201 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: basically a lovable person, and sorely as it tries you,

545
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 2: you must all give her again and again the reassurance

546
00:27:19,241 --> 00:27:23,201
Speaker 2: that she needs, that she is valuable, much needed, and

547
00:27:23,241 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: successful as a person. She hasn't reached a true decision

548
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,201
Speaker 2: yet whether she wants to be miserable alive, so she

549
00:27:31,681 --> 00:27:35,321
Speaker 2: is doubly hard to help. Give your mother the odd

550
00:27:35,321 --> 00:27:38,561
Speaker 2: compliment on her looks, her cooking, her day's work, Try

551
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,561
Speaker 2: to persuade her to go out more, to join a group,

552
00:27:41,681 --> 00:27:44,481
Speaker 2: to take up some outside work, to take pride in

553
00:27:44,561 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: her appearance, even if she has no man at present

554
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 2: to loose.

555
00:27:48,681 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: Because you must always look good.

556
00:27:50,481 --> 00:27:53,401
Speaker 2: For a man and present, even if she has no

557
00:27:53,441 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: man at present, to look pretty for. Oh, even if

558
00:27:58,961 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 2: she has no man at present, to look pretty for

559
00:28:00,521 --> 00:28:03,201
Speaker 2: A visit to the hairdresser is good for the morale.

560
00:28:03,481 --> 00:28:05,721
Speaker 1: Well, I agree with that, and so a new frock.

561
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:09,561
Speaker 2: Oh, be patient with her, even though it's hard, and

562
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,361
Speaker 2: if she will cooperate with you a little more than

563
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: she will emerge from the tunnel. So I read that

564
00:28:15,201 --> 00:28:17,161
Speaker 2: very weirdly. That wasn't too bad.

565
00:28:17,201 --> 00:28:18,121
Speaker 1: She wasn't too bad.

566
00:28:18,241 --> 00:28:19,281
Speaker 2: It was a bit conservative.

567
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: I was a little bit concerned with the whole. You know,

568
00:28:22,001 --> 00:28:24,321
Speaker 1: even though she doesn't have a man, she should look pretty.

569
00:28:24,921 --> 00:28:27,481
Speaker 2: This next one says, will she be faithful?

570
00:28:27,921 --> 00:28:28,081
Speaker 3: Here?

571
00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: We got to get in position.

572
00:28:32,041 --> 00:28:34,521
Speaker 2: My problem is that I am going steady with a

573
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,041
Speaker 2: girl who has told me that she has had sex

574
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,641
Speaker 2: with six different men in the past four years. Got

575
00:28:41,681 --> 00:28:44,721
Speaker 2: on her, even detailing the number of times she has

576
00:28:44,801 --> 00:28:48,801
Speaker 2: been with each of them. Naturally we quarrel about this.

577
00:28:49,801 --> 00:28:51,881
Speaker 2: I throw it up at her, saying she could not

578
00:28:52,001 --> 00:28:55,521
Speaker 2: have had any morals to have behaved like that. Oh

579
00:28:55,601 --> 00:28:58,441
Speaker 2: my god, six men in four years.

580
00:28:58,201 --> 00:28:59,641
Speaker 1: And he's rubbing a face in it.

581
00:28:59,881 --> 00:29:02,161
Speaker 2: I don't think so, I mean, I've had six men

582
00:29:02,201 --> 00:29:09,681
Speaker 2: over four hours. I wonder what this gentleman thinks of me. Okay,

583
00:29:09,921 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: I throw it up at her, saying she could not

584
00:29:12,161 --> 00:29:16,241
Speaker 2: have had any morals to have behaved like this. Do

585
00:29:16,281 --> 00:29:17,721
Speaker 2: you think I should forgive her?

586
00:29:17,961 --> 00:29:19,721
Speaker 1: No, mate, you need to get out the door, close

587
00:29:19,721 --> 00:29:21,641
Speaker 1: it behind you, and give you what they're having.

588
00:29:21,841 --> 00:29:25,161
Speaker 2: In the seventies. The main question I ask myself is

589
00:29:25,321 --> 00:29:28,881
Speaker 2: if a man married a girl who has had previous

590
00:29:28,921 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: sexual experience, would she make a good wife? Oh? And

591
00:29:34,641 --> 00:29:38,121
Speaker 2: would she be faithful? Most men would like to marry

592
00:29:38,161 --> 00:29:41,481
Speaker 2: a virgin of course. Oh my god, this is outright.

593
00:29:41,521 --> 00:29:44,241
Speaker 2: And do you think it matters if a girl isn't.

594
00:29:44,721 --> 00:29:47,841
Speaker 2: I'm not a virgin myself, but I haven't had sexual

595
00:29:47,881 --> 00:29:50,241
Speaker 2: intercourse as many times as my girlfriend.

596
00:29:50,401 --> 00:29:51,321
Speaker 1: Well that's the problem.

597
00:29:54,801 --> 00:29:57,201
Speaker 2: I hope you can help me solve my problem.

598
00:29:57,441 --> 00:30:00,601
Speaker 1: Come on, Lizzie, so fucking hell, come on, liz.

599
00:30:00,641 --> 00:30:02,681
Speaker 2: Oh, here we go, here, we give it to me.

600
00:30:03,321 --> 00:30:07,601
Speaker 2: You are just play jealous because she has had sex

601
00:30:07,681 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: more times and with more partners than you have, and

602
00:30:11,041 --> 00:30:14,001
Speaker 2: you have the nerve to cloak this under an attitude

603
00:30:14,041 --> 00:30:17,721
Speaker 2: of moral reproof. Who are you to talk exactly right,

604
00:30:17,761 --> 00:30:20,521
Speaker 2: and did you never take a virgin? You are not

605
00:30:20,601 --> 00:30:23,161
Speaker 2: a virgin, So what gives you the right to expect

606
00:30:23,241 --> 00:30:26,361
Speaker 2: virginity of the girl you marry? Fuck it good honor.

607
00:30:27,961 --> 00:30:31,561
Speaker 2: Girls can be just as jealous and as miserable about

608
00:30:31,561 --> 00:30:35,401
Speaker 2: their boyfriend's past. It seems that even now the double

609
00:30:35,481 --> 00:30:39,041
Speaker 2: standards exist and women have no rights while men have.

610
00:30:39,641 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: She has had the courage and honesty to tell you

611
00:30:42,361 --> 00:30:47,081
Speaker 2: candidly of her past. What a pity. You don't deserve it? Well, Dad,

612
00:30:47,201 --> 00:30:48,081
Speaker 2: that's good.

613
00:30:48,961 --> 00:30:49,601
Speaker 1: Tell them girl.

614
00:30:50,601 --> 00:30:53,681
Speaker 2: Oh okay, this one. How do I tell my parents?

615
00:30:54,521 --> 00:30:55,081
Speaker 1: What we say?

616
00:30:55,201 --> 00:30:59,201
Speaker 2: Here we go. I am nineteen years old and two

617
00:30:59,281 --> 00:31:02,601
Speaker 2: years ago I left my parents to go round Australia

618
00:31:03,321 --> 00:31:06,401
Speaker 2: during this time my teen.

619
00:31:06,481 --> 00:31:08,561
Speaker 1: But there were seventeen at the time of traveling.

620
00:31:08,921 --> 00:31:12,761
Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh my god, the seventies. It's the seventies.

621
00:31:12,841 --> 00:31:13,361
Speaker 1: I don't care.

622
00:31:13,441 --> 00:31:17,521
Speaker 2: Hell, it's the seventies and they wouldn't have known about

623
00:31:17,561 --> 00:31:18,681
Speaker 2: all the tuf Serra killers.

624
00:31:19,281 --> 00:31:21,881
Speaker 1: I was seventeen when I left home.

625
00:31:22,121 --> 00:31:25,961
Speaker 2: Really, yes, did you travel around Australia? No? How many

626
00:31:25,961 --> 00:31:26,721
Speaker 2: people had you slept?

627
00:31:26,761 --> 00:31:26,841
Speaker 3: Well?

628
00:31:26,841 --> 00:31:29,961
Speaker 2: I'm not at seventeen? Oh? Were promiscuous?

629
00:31:30,041 --> 00:31:30,201
Speaker 1: No?

630
00:31:30,561 --> 00:31:33,121
Speaker 2: Before you met Riccardo. No, okay, were you're pulling your

631
00:31:33,121 --> 00:31:37,441
Speaker 2: face to be like no? Oh no, Riccardo, listens, you're

632
00:31:37,441 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: a virgin when you met Ricardo. No, well, we know

633
00:31:40,241 --> 00:31:42,681
Speaker 2: that we already had a talk about your alleyway sex before.

634
00:31:43,361 --> 00:31:45,441
Speaker 2: I'm nineteen years old and two years ago I left

635
00:31:45,481 --> 00:31:47,921
Speaker 2: my parents to go around Australia. During this time I

636
00:31:47,961 --> 00:31:50,321
Speaker 2: met a great man with whom I had sex often.

637
00:31:50,921 --> 00:31:55,161
Speaker 2: As a result, I became pregnant. Oh no, had the

638
00:31:55,281 --> 00:31:59,561
Speaker 2: baby and kept her. Woll oh, this is so juicy.

639
00:32:00,401 --> 00:32:03,241
Speaker 2: My boyfriend stayed with me before and after the birth

640
00:32:03,241 --> 00:32:05,681
Speaker 2: of our little girl, so I have no problem there.

641
00:32:06,081 --> 00:32:09,801
Speaker 2: My problem is how am I going to explain to

642
00:32:09,961 --> 00:32:11,561
Speaker 2: my parents when I go home.

643
00:32:11,681 --> 00:32:13,201
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she hasn't told him.

644
00:32:13,601 --> 00:32:17,641
Speaker 2: They are very old fashioned. Shit you've done and have

645
00:32:17,841 --> 00:32:20,321
Speaker 2: all their trust in me. I don't want to hurt them.

646
00:32:20,481 --> 00:32:24,881
Speaker 1: Oh no, I wonder how that panned out. Shit, what

647
00:32:24,921 --> 00:32:25,761
Speaker 1: does Lizzie say?

648
00:32:25,961 --> 00:32:30,401
Speaker 2: Lizzie says, but you will and babies are self explanatory.

649
00:32:30,841 --> 00:32:34,281
Speaker 2: Presumably you have elected to do what you want, regardless

650
00:32:34,281 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: of your old fashioned parents. I hope you will be

651
00:32:37,761 --> 00:32:40,761
Speaker 2: able to cope and turn to your boyfriend for support.

652
00:32:41,281 --> 00:32:44,881
Speaker 2: Both morally and financially, rather than land on their doorstep

653
00:32:45,001 --> 00:32:47,681
Speaker 2: or seek their help without first making a good case

654
00:32:47,721 --> 00:32:51,121
Speaker 2: for yourself. You can't have babies out of wedlock without

655
00:32:51,241 --> 00:32:55,121
Speaker 2: hurting somebody. Oh wow, was babies in wedlock still living

656
00:32:55,161 --> 00:32:55,721
Speaker 2: in the seventies?

657
00:32:55,881 --> 00:32:59,441
Speaker 1: Out of wedlock? We're not looked upon as a good thing.

658
00:32:59,721 --> 00:33:00,281
Speaker 2: Wow.

659
00:33:01,441 --> 00:33:05,121
Speaker 1: Knowing this now, I would love to know how that

660
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Speaker 1: person got on fifty three years later.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Let's get to the ads on the side.

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Speaker 1: Oh please, because I did spot that.

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Speaker 2: This one says stop children bedwetting. Bye, stop wett no

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Speaker 2: drugs or shocks for children from five years of age

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Speaker 2: method recognized by doctors throughout the world by or hire

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Speaker 2: it from your local pharmacy. That was one shocks. Bed

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Speaker 2: Wedding Cured dry bed alarm system for hire only direct

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Speaker 2: from Australian Medical Hire. So this alarm system, do you

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Speaker 2: know I had that as a kid. I wasn't a kid,

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Speaker 2: I was I was pissing myself quite regularly, wedding the

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Speaker 2: bed often. Yeah, and so mum hired this bed wedding

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Speaker 2: Cure and it was alarmed. So it was like a

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Speaker 2: foil underlay. It's like a connecting you know when you

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Speaker 2: jump start a car. Yeah, like jumping leads at the base. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't shock therapy. It was connected to this giant bell,

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Speaker 2: this bigger arm, And so when you urinated, the wetness

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Speaker 2: would trigger the oh that, so you'd be shocked away.

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Speaker 2: It was shocked awake, and then you'd go to the

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Speaker 2: bathroom and what it would do. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: it worked. I think it just psychologically shocked you awake,

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Speaker 2: that when you felt the urge to go, you would

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Speaker 2: wake up. And it did. It cured me, really, I swept,

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Speaker 2: but I can't remember how old. It was, long enough

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Speaker 2: that I should not be wedding the bed. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: I want to read you this had new way to

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Speaker 2: rageous painful heteroids and give prompt temporary relief from pain

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Speaker 2: in most cases. A medication has been discovered which has

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Speaker 2: the ability in most cases to actually shrink hemorrhoids and

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Speaker 2: to promptly ease the burning itch and temporary relief pan

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Speaker 2: the sufferer. First notice is relief from the itching and pain,

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Speaker 2: Then painful swelling of the inflamed hemorrhoid is reduced. Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, it's preparation. H preparation h was just discovered

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Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy two. It's psych ainosol.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it comes in annointment or suppository form, asked kyochemist.

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Speaker 1: All right, see this is the reddit of the seventies.

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Speaker 2: This is the Reddit of the seventies.

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Speaker 1: Ah.

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Speaker 2: Though, Bacon has a column called your Home hence for

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Speaker 2: cleaning linen, woodwork, and tilestful.

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Speaker 1: Okay, go on, Okay, they're good sturdy.

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Speaker 2: Linoleum flows.

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Speaker 1: Oh, who's got.

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Speaker 2: Linoleum?

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Speaker 1: Linoleum?

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Speaker 2: Could you tell me the difference between lino and tiles, though, says.

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Speaker 2: Linoleum is made of cork, linseed oil and dyes pressed

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Speaker 2: onto a felt backing. It may have the design printed

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Speaker 2: on the surface or inlaid through its thickness. Tiles can

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Speaker 2: be made of linolium, but also ashwhalt, rubber, or vinyl.

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Speaker 2: Ashwalt tiles are made of asbestos fibers and resin known

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, m delicious. Asbestos colors extend through the material.

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Speaker 2: Rubber tiles are made of synthetic or natural rubber and

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Speaker 2: other materials. Colors go all the way through. Violun tiles

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Speaker 2: are made from plastic material and ran from fairly resilient

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Speaker 2: to quite hard. Wow, so you've got a tile breakdown?

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Speaker 2: Good cleaners? Oh, is there something you can mix with

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Speaker 2: ammonia to make a good cleaner for woodwork and tiles?

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Speaker 2: Voe says, unless you know something about mixing chemicals, I

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Speaker 2: would leave it to the experts. It's safer to use

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Speaker 2: a commonly made product. If ammonia is mixed with certain chemicals,

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Speaker 2: the reaction can be very toxic. This is the reddit.

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Speaker 1: It is the Reddit of the seventies.

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Speaker 2: I ended up buying about fourteen of these magazines because

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Speaker 2: what I wanted to do is the podcast that I

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Speaker 2: have on Patreon is go through and just go through

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Speaker 2: them and pick out the winning elements. Because I haven't

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Speaker 2: looked at any of these. There's a lot of fucking

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Speaker 2: filth in them.

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Speaker 1: I would be looking at Lizzie stuff.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, well there was only two new ideas, and

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Speaker 2: there was a whole bunch of Women's Day.

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Speaker 1: Well, there'd be someone like Lizzie and those.

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Speaker 2: If you're feeling generous, you can subscribe to Patreon. I will.

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Speaker 1: I'll go back to it at you do it now.

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Speaker 2: I thought you were already a member. I was, and

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Speaker 2: then got too expensive for you look.

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Speaker 1: Let me do it now for you.

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Speaker 2: Please don't on the next episode of We will Always

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Speaker 2: have this kid's room and the carrete. Okay, I'm gonna Oh,

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Speaker 2: she's killed over and you're trying to shit yourself. Chris,

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Speaker 2: were in a serious case of emergency. Are you okay?

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Speaker 2: Oh you do, I can smell it. Okay, we've got

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Speaker 2: to go. We really have to go. Okay, Christine to

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Speaker 2: use the bathroom. So we're unfortunate to cut this to

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Speaker 2: a pretty short quick Okay, she's gonna shut Okay,