WEBVTT - 78. The Grief of Outgrowing Old Versions of You - ITS HARD 😓

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<v Speaker 1>Apogee Production. Welcome to the She Rises Podcast. I'm Ashy

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Tiana.

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<v Speaker 2>This podcast is about female empowerment and encouraging you to

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<v Speaker 2>be your biggest, boldest, and most authentic version of yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>We help you shed the shame, grow to new level.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna laugh, cry, and talk about the topics everyone

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<v Speaker 1>else is too afraid to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>Get ready for your next level of self. Today's episode

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<v Speaker 2>is all about grieving old versions of ourselves, which we

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<v Speaker 2>all go through.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get into it, share really week, Yes

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<v Speaker 1>you go first, Yes please. Mine is a new TV series.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called The Better Sister. It's on Prime. It's got

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<v Speaker 1>Jessica Bield. Do you guys know she is forty three

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<v Speaker 1>years old. She looks insane. You've been raving about how

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<v Speaker 1>good she looks. Oh my god. Her body is like

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty year old not quite like it's mature and sporty.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just she looks so fit, healthy and strong.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's so feminine. She's just hot. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>she's a babe. Forget what she looks like. I need

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<v Speaker 1>to have a look like justin to well, yes, like

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<v Speaker 1>There's just a couple of scenes where she like takes

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<v Speaker 1>her clothes off and she's in a bran unders and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, damn, turky, butt toned legs, like tone, tummy.

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<v Speaker 1>She just looks amazing and she's a really great actress.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think she goes to the gym much takes

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<v Speaker 2>care of herself?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Steve said to me, is she genetically small? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think she works out? And like, look at the tone,

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<v Speaker 1>Like she trains hard for that body, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>she like eats really well as well. But yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>whole series is about a couple and they split up,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a kid together. The sister of this girl

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<v Speaker 1>gets with the ex husband and then the husband gets murdered.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a son involved, There's twists and turns. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>figure out who it is. There's so much that was

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<v Speaker 1>happening behind the scenes of the relationship. The sister's been

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<v Speaker 1>paining to someone that she's not and it's just every

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<v Speaker 1>episode there's so much happening. So she love a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of crime, a bit of mystery, a bit of toxic romance,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's being on the edge of your seat trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out who did it, like murdered mystery. It's

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<v Speaker 1>cool interesting. Yeah, really good. I have to write it down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the better sister on Prime my share of the

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<v Speaker 2>week is is actually something that actually bought for us,

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<v Speaker 2>which sounds on going. Actually came to me one day

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<v Speaker 2>and she's like, I got something for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm the worst culprit for getting targeted on

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<v Speaker 1>friggin social media ads of stupid shit and I just

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<v Speaker 1>buy it. Get so influenced inluenced.

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<v Speaker 2>It comes around the friend of stuff, like here's a

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<v Speaker 2>little beef teller thing for your face. So this product

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<v Speaker 2>is called her Plus. They're provided gummies or something like

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<v Speaker 2>that for your pH balance in your vagina flavored pineapple.

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<v Speaker 2>So these actually I ended up really loving them. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been using them for like the last month or so

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<v Speaker 2>since we got them. Both tried them.

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<v Speaker 1>I love them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're amazing. So there's thousands and thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>reviews of women who experience better sex, better pH balances,

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<v Speaker 2>making sure that like they're obviously all good down there

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<v Speaker 2>and that sort of thing. So I personally have found

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<v Speaker 2>it has made me a little bit more wet for

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<v Speaker 2>context for anybody who's listening. So that is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the benefits of the gummies. Gummies so, yeah, I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to share them with you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've got no sense in it. I'm not convince

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<v Speaker 1>they work because when I look at the ingredients and

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<v Speaker 1>I still bought them, and when I buy them again,

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<v Speaker 1>they're delicious. Any excuse me to have a lolli if

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<v Speaker 1>it comes in some sort of item, I'm like, even better,

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<v Speaker 1>it's better for me. I just tell myself that. But

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<v Speaker 1>when I look at the back of the ingredients, there

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<v Speaker 1>isn't much in there. There's pineapple flaving, there's smell atole,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a little bit of sugar. There's not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things in there. Like, it's definitely not a probotic,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. No, And most probotics they have to be

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<v Speaker 1>kept in the fridge too. Yes, once they put into

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<v Speaker 1>a gummy, there's nothing alive in there that can actually

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<v Speaker 1>build your health back up. So I'm not convinced that

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<v Speaker 1>they actually help. However, I do really like them, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it helps me tastes and smell better, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh for it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the big thing, is like it helps you taste

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<v Speaker 2>and smell and yeah, making sure that your pH is

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<v Speaker 2>on point basically, And I remember reading on the website

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<v Speaker 2>and it being from like three female women doctors or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that have come together to formulate it for women.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just remember reading the website and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Be very good marketing, though it could be I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>marketer's on moment. Twenty thousand reviews. Yeah, and also when

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<v Speaker 1>you say it makes you more wet, we will a

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<v Speaker 1>s when the week of our population.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so we're like true, you know, but also there's

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<v Speaker 2>some reviews on there like that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So anyway, looks.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're struggling even with like sex and intercourse and intercourse,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I've never said that word.

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<v Speaker 1>In my life. They're delicious, and yeah, give them a go.

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<v Speaker 1>I will order them again just because they're freaking yum

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<v Speaker 1>and if anything can help then why not. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just yere, I'm not one hundred percent sure. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like when you look into supplements, you go to Flannery

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<v Speaker 1>as you can really see what's in it, and they

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<v Speaker 1>call it in the back by a natch path or

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<v Speaker 1>a nutritionist or I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have a look on the website, but we'll

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<v Speaker 2>let you guys know.

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<v Speaker 1>Next minutes, a scam have fake doctors not kidding for

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<v Speaker 1>the yump. Anyways, moving on, so what are we talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Greeting past versions of ourselves and ego deaths and just

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<v Speaker 1>deaths of our old selves. And this is something we

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<v Speaker 1>all go through and maybe something you have never reflected on,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've been through different phases of our lives where

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<v Speaker 1>have had to kind of let go of a past version.

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<v Speaker 1>And it can be har sometimes. Even though you know

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<v Speaker 1>this next level version of yourself is even better. She's

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<v Speaker 1>more evolved, she's more aware, she's more conscious, she's more flowy, calm,

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<v Speaker 1>all the good things, there's still parts of your old

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<v Speaker 1>self that you can grieve. I've had two that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel the biggest ones of me, and the first was

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<v Speaker 1>who I was before I became a mother, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was quite a transition. I felt like, you do almost

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<v Speaker 1>lose your old self. You have a rebirth. When you

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<v Speaker 1>birth a child, you are different. It changes you. It

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<v Speaker 1>changes your perspectives, it changes the way you show up,

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<v Speaker 1>It changes your body, it changes your life, it changes everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So I felt like I had to really get to

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<v Speaker 1>know who I was as a mother and the parts

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<v Speaker 1>of me that I still wanted to keep around the

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<v Speaker 1>parts that I did, and I felt like we're maturing.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to lose the playful side of me,

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<v Speaker 1>So I felt like I went through a period where

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<v Speaker 1>I lost all of that and I was grieving this

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<v Speaker 1>young free like free time, free energy, just end less,

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever I wanted. I'm sat I love freedom as well,

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<v Speaker 1>so I really missed that free spirit. I suppose I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like I needed to be more in control, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was more stressed and I was more anxious, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, where has that fun, loving, cruisy, sexual, playful,

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<v Speaker 1>energetic actually gone? She's gone? And is she coming back?

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<v Speaker 1>And then it was the process of like, Okay, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>she is gone and she's been rebirthed, but how can

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<v Speaker 1>I get to know this new version of myself? Who

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<v Speaker 1>do I want to be? I still want to be playful,

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<v Speaker 1>I still want to be in touch with my sexuality.

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<v Speaker 1>I still want to have fun. But it's just going

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<v Speaker 1>to look and feel different. And it's changed at the

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<v Speaker 1>different ages of my kids as well. Like the first

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<v Speaker 1>two or three years at Tarj was just tough. She

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like keeping above water, she was deep in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally just surviving like I was floating in an ocean

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<v Speaker 1>full of sharks ready to be eaten. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that's a really bad analogy, but I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure that's how it would have felt in the moment

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<v Speaker 2>it did.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like I was just surviving, not thriving, Whereas

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<v Speaker 1>with Tala, I found I was just way more regulated

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't feel like that full death, but I

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<v Speaker 1>did feel like a new and more evolved version was

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just more conscious, careful of my energy,

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<v Speaker 1>and more confident in who I was. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>second one was when I decided to give up on

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<v Speaker 1>my career in the Finnis industry, and that was uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I knew it was the right decision. Like

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<v Speaker 1>things can be the right decision, it doesn't mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be uncomfortable. So you can make move

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<v Speaker 1>big Bob moves, make big decisions, whether it's ending a

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<v Speaker 1>marriage or a relationship or a friendship, or quitting a

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<v Speaker 1>job or leaving an industry that you know so well.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be the right thing and still be uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what it was for me because I wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>my identity around being the finness girl, so I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>who am I now that I'm not that? Why will

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<v Speaker 1>people want to follow me? Why would they want to

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<v Speaker 1>engage with me? What else is there about me? Because

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<v Speaker 1>people have followed me for fitness, for workouts, for routines,

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<v Speaker 1>for health tips, for food, for recipes. So I had

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<v Speaker 1>to get to know who I was and then be

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<v Speaker 1>able to show up authentically to who I was then

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<v Speaker 1>and there, not just continue posting workouts because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>everyone had known me for. But it was a massive

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<v Speaker 1>death of my old self and it was hard to

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<v Speaker 1>let go of. But I think I moved through that

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<v Speaker 1>quite quickly because I loved who I was outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the fitness industry, but I had to take space to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out who that was and what I enjoyed and

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<v Speaker 1>what I wanted to do moving forward. I found that

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<v Speaker 1>more enjoyable as well as greeting it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like there were a few moments, like

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<v Speaker 2>few finding moments throughout that process, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you did handle that quite well. It was just a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of moments in time where you're like, oh, right now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's feeling like a lot, and then yeah, we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it, process it, you know, and then you get

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<v Speaker 2>closer and closer to what you actually wanted as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's like announcing something and doing something. And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember actually like fully handing everything over to Levi,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm so glad that he was my business partner.

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<v Speaker 1>I could hand it to someone who I know loves

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<v Speaker 1>it so much. We'd built it together, were't going to

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<v Speaker 1>just sell it to anyone and take over my name.

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<v Speaker 1>It was handing it to someone who had helped build it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I felt really good for that. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>still like, oh, that's not mine anymore. All that work,

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<v Speaker 1>all that time, the community, like the forums, the programs,

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<v Speaker 1>the back end systems, the website, everything is just not

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<v Speaker 1>mine anymore. And it felt like sad and uncomfortable. But

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<v Speaker 1>also this is right and I'm excited for him to

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<v Speaker 1>see what he does with it. So yeah, it was interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a big transition for you.

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<v Speaker 1>It was, but it gave me more space to see, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>who I wanted to be, what aligned with me, and

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<v Speaker 1>what I want to do next, which has been part

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<v Speaker 1>of the podcast, and giving some more energy to hide away.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's been fun. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>You've come more and more into yourself. You've let all

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<v Speaker 2>of these old chapters and things that aren't really feeling

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<v Speaker 2>like not aligned, but not where you want to direct

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<v Speaker 2>your energy anymore. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I love teaching, I always do, and I still love fitness,

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<v Speaker 1>and if I got asked to run a big boot

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<v Speaker 1>camp on stage or something, I'll probably say yes. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not all of who I am, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>all of what I wanted to do anymore. The podcast

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<v Speaker 1>gave me a platform and a voice to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about other things that are really important to me,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not just about health and fitness. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>much more to me and to life than just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about food and exercise. So it's really cool that I

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<v Speaker 1>can still have that passion and there's still a high

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<v Speaker 1>value of mine, but I could talk about so many

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<v Speaker 1>other things that are important conversations to have with women.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's so beautiful as well.

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<v Speaker 2>The way you've described it is like there's this grieving

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<v Speaker 2>process but it's also equal parts beauty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a duality, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it sounds like you've had that moment where you've

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<v Speaker 2>had to grieve and let go and be willing to

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<v Speaker 2>let go of the certainty of something yes, to go

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<v Speaker 2>into the unknown definitely come out on the other side

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<v Speaker 2>of something really beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's the financial side of it too. Yeah, anyone

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<v Speaker 1>in a career transition or you start a business or

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<v Speaker 1>give up a full time job to go out, card

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<v Speaker 1>at your side, hustle or whatever, like that's a big thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let go of as well. There's so many layers to

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<v Speaker 1>letting go of the old version of yourself that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to work through and take risks and back yourself

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<v Speaker 1>and just on a where you're.

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<v Speaker 2>At right now and trust that you're making the right discay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, moment you know in your body though we always

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<v Speaker 1>say this, when you actually stop, take a moment, slow down, breathe,

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<v Speaker 1>just like recenter, connect with yourself. The answers are there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got all those answers when I was in hospital. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I had forty eight hours where I was like twiddling

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<v Speaker 1>my thumbs, no distractions, no kids around. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, this is what I need to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've been putting it off for a while. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember months before I even found out my brain on nurism,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just so unhappy. It's crying to Steve all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I couldn't figure out why I was waking

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<v Speaker 1>up not wanting to go to work. Everything felt hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel motivated. Yeah, I loved active wear, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't love selling it anymore. I felt like I was

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<v Speaker 1>just constantly selling, selling, selling, and I'd built a brand

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<v Speaker 1>that was off my name and that's how we sold organically.

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<v Speaker 1>All of it just didn't feel good anymore. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a strange thing to feel. But when you give

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<v Speaker 1>yourself that space, the answers are there, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>get a choice if you're honor them. So Mike Drop, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what about you? What old versions of you have you

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<v Speaker 1>had to say goodbye to and reinvent yourself and get

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<v Speaker 1>to know who Tiana is now?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, reinvent myself. I feel like I've reinvented myself a

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<v Speaker 2>million times.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. Yeah, but on you for being open

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<v Speaker 1>to change.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's hard and uncomfortable, but it's also a

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<v Speaker 2>really empowering thing as well, because the way that I

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<v Speaker 2>like to see it is like, Wow, I have the

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity for me to completely transform the current life that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm living into some thing that actually feels a line

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<v Speaker 2>for me and is like the reflection of who I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be as a woman. You know, Like, if

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<v Speaker 2>I could look at all the different variations of Tiana that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've over the years, it's like a whirlwind. I would

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<v Speaker 1>have loved seen younger vig.

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<v Speaker 2>God, she's been busy, you know. I think probably the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest transition for me when I was younger, I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>the most like pivot one that kind of started all

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<v Speaker 2>of the other was transitioned from party girl to self development. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>growth consciousness. That was the biggest one. That was the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest one that triggered all of the rest of them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool, and that was a powerful one for me

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<v Speaker 2>because I almost went from this version of myself who

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<v Speaker 2>was one very unaware, very selfish, self led, didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>care victim, Yeah, victim just was very self focused that

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, just wanted to do what I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do. I wanted to have what I wanted to have,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and everything was very quite self level. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I went from that version of myself to somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who started to gain more self awareness, realize myself, realize

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<v Speaker 2>my patterns, realize my impact on other people and other

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<v Speaker 2>people's impact on me. And that transition, even though it

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<v Speaker 2>was a positive one, I went through like a grieving process.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I was letting go of the care free

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<v Speaker 2>this is the story I had. I was letting go

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<v Speaker 2>of the care free version of me who didn't really care,

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<v Speaker 2>who had very little responsibility, Yeah, to becoming this woman

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<v Speaker 2>who now cared about what everybody thought, cared about the

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<v Speaker 2>decisions that I made, who I impacted, how I impacted them,

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<v Speaker 2>how much impact I would create on other people in

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<v Speaker 2>the world. And so it went from like a I

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<v Speaker 2>almost aggrieved this real like care free version of my Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was just a really interesting thing because even

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<v Speaker 2>though I knew it was going to be good for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I just had this story that carefree Tianna didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>to come with me. Yeah, but that's not necessarily true.

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<v Speaker 2>Carefree Tiana did come with me. She just showed up differently,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, cool, instead of being careless and reckless and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, didn't really care for consequences and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just be honestly whatever, Yeah, it'll sort of self out,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine. It was not absolutely not fine, Absolutely not fine. Yeah,

0:14:16.961 --> 0:14:19.081
<v Speaker 2>the carefree version of me showed up in a different way.

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<v Speaker 2>And so there was a grieving process of even though

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<v Speaker 2>that version of me wasn't good for me, I still

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<v Speaker 2>had to grieve that part of me. Yeah, I degrieve

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<v Speaker 2>the version of me who loved to drink, who went out,

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<v Speaker 2>who partied, who you know, loved attention from guys, who

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<v Speaker 2>didn't take herself seriously. I had to grieve all of

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<v Speaker 2>those parts of me that actually weren't serving me. But

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<v Speaker 2>then I got to let that go and evolve into

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<v Speaker 2>like a more beautiful version of myself, which I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>really proud of. But I don't think people talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that enough. It's like, when you're grieving bad habits, bad choices,

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<v Speaker 2>bad actions, you know, unhealthy ways of thinking, you're grieving

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<v Speaker 2>that part of you as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm assuming when you went through that process, did

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<v Speaker 1>you also kind of have to disconnect from the party

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<v Speaker 1>friends because you were doing different things. So you're not

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<v Speaker 1>only grieving your old party, fun, care free Tiana, but

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<v Speaker 1>you have to grieve the friendships you're going to lose

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<v Speaker 1>because that's how they connect and that's how you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have fun and do things. Have to grieve them as well.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a conversation I actually had the other night,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love that you said that because at every

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<v Speaker 2>point in my journey. Whenever I have been drinking, I

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<v Speaker 2>have lost those friends. But because they're not actually my friends' friends,

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<v Speaker 2>they're my party friends.

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<v Speaker 1>So the connections more surface level. It's not like that

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<v Speaker 1>actually real authentic deep connection at all. Great got at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Those people were meeting me on the same level that

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<v Speaker 2>I was at, so migration, Yeah, it was surface level.

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<v Speaker 2>It was let's go out for the weekend and go

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<v Speaker 2>have fun and go stay in the city, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't even go get breakfast the next morning. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, So it wasn't deep connection getting to know

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<v Speaker 2>each other, being there for each.

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<v Speaker 1>Other front conversation instead of yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it's drama, you know, being there through all the

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<v Speaker 2>chaos and all that sort of stuff. But outside of that,

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<v Speaker 2>was there really any substance to the friendship. No, So yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you grieve the version of you who was that, who

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<v Speaker 2>attracted that, who liked that, and then you grieve the

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<v Speaker 2>version of you who was choosing to be friends with

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<v Speaker 2>all these people who weren't really choosing you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was a really big one for me, and

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<v Speaker 2>the first one that really changed the trajectory of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm so grateful. I remember going through that transition

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<v Speaker 2>and thinking, oh my god, I've been sleeping my whole life.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm finally waking up.

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<v Speaker 1>I sleep walking through life, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And just having this new profound awareness of myself and

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<v Speaker 2>my life. I was like, oh my god, like this

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<v Speaker 2>is what life's about. Yeah, So that was really cool

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<v Speaker 2>for me. I would say there's two other ones, but

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<v Speaker 2>the one that I kind of want to point out

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<v Speaker 2>is the one that has been the most recent for me,

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<v Speaker 2>from coach Tiana to more mem.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this one.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been a really cool transition for me. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like for the longest time in my business, which

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<v Speaker 2>has been like about four years now, I have hid

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<v Speaker 2>behind coach Tiana.

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<v Speaker 1>Explain that who is coach Tiana.

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<v Speaker 2>So coach Tianna is very like well put together, very educated,

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<v Speaker 2>know to shit, yeah, very well presented, and it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like the very professional Tiana, if I could label it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like you go into an office well dressed,

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<v Speaker 2>well kept, speaks well, presents themselves well. And that for

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<v Speaker 2>me has been kind of like my coach Tiana and

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<v Speaker 2>my persona. Yeah, and I haven't intentionally meant to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>but what I noticed is that I was like hiding

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<v Speaker 2>behind the version of me who was just a coach.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not a bad thing, but it was like

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<v Speaker 2>that became my world. It became my everything, and I

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<v Speaker 2>really didn't make a lot of space for every other

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<v Speaker 2>facet of who I am as a woman. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I started to come and do this podcast and do

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<v Speaker 2>things like this and show more of myself.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I.

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<v Speaker 2>Started to realize that I was almost like grieving coach Tiana,

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<v Speaker 2>because whilst yes, there is an element of that being me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not all of me. Yeah, but I was presenting

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<v Speaker 2>myself as.

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<v Speaker 1>All of that. You had to grieve that for yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>but also your online presence and like introduce these news

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<v Speaker 1>parts of you, and I know there was fear for

0:17:48.921 --> 0:17:51.720
<v Speaker 1>you around will people accept this? Like will they like

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of content? And then when you didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>as many views whatever, you be like, oh my people

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<v Speaker 1>want my coaching videos. Yes. And it's been this dip

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<v Speaker 1>in and out of just being like, Okay, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>just have to show up as me, regardless of the numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of what people may think, like I want to

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<v Speaker 1>show all these sides for me because this is me

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>I had this story that people only wanted to see

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<v Speaker 2>me as Coach Tiana. Yeah, and so I posted three

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<v Speaker 2>times a day and I was posting only talking videos

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<v Speaker 2>on the educational based content. And yeah, it felt easy

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<v Speaker 2>to do that, easy to be presented as that, but

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<v Speaker 2>it also didn't feel fully authentic either.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Fun, it wasn't as fun. Yeah, I don't get me wrong,

0:18:25.360 --> 0:18:27.600
<v Speaker 2>I love it. Yeah, I really get a huge kick

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<v Speaker 2>out of it. Mentally, it stimulates me so much. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like fuck, yeah, yeah, but it was becoming less and

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<v Speaker 2>less fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're finding the balance of incorporating all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I literally thought that people wouldn't follow me anymore if

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't Coach Tiana.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like the opposite. They want to see more

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<v Speaker 1>of you, and you know, I get to see you

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes and wan everyone else to experience this

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<v Speaker 1>version of you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had a story that, like, I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>interesting enough to follow if I wasn't teaching them something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's been me on learning that story and really

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<v Speaker 2>grieving like the persona that is Coach Tiana and knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that like I can still be Coach Tiana but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to change who I am to do it, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and then showing all different sides of my

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<v Speaker 2>human as well, and like that's allowed and welcomed. And

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<v Speaker 2>the more that I've done that, the more authentic I feel,

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<v Speaker 2>the more myself I feel, the easier it feels to

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<v Speaker 2>discern who were for me, who were not, and all

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of stuff. That's really cool a refinement process

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<v Speaker 2>of that. So I felt like I really had to

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<v Speaker 2>grieve that version of me, but in the best way

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<v Speaker 2>because grieving that version of me allowed me to find

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<v Speaker 2>more of me. Yes, and now the things that we

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<v Speaker 2>even talk about on the podcast, Coach Gianna would have

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<v Speaker 2>never shared that, But when I think about what I do,

0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:37.241
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, of course that makes sense. Like my clients

0:19:37.281 --> 0:19:38.640
<v Speaker 2>say to me all the time on our one on

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<v Speaker 2>one sessions how much they love when I share openly

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<v Speaker 2>about my personal experiences. But do I do that on

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<v Speaker 2>social media before? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely not.

0:19:47.360 --> 0:19:49.041
<v Speaker 2>But it's when they get into the container and my

0:19:49.120 --> 0:19:51.401
<v Speaker 2>this softer, vulnerable version of me that I actually am

0:19:51.521 --> 0:19:54.201
<v Speaker 2>that's really cool. So that's been a really pivotal thing

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<v Speaker 2>for me recently.

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<v Speaker 1>That's beautiful. Another thing we want to touch on too,

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<v Speaker 1>is like not only grieving old versions of yourself, but

0:20:01.041 --> 0:20:04.041
<v Speaker 1>grieving past relationships. Yeah. I don't know if you've heard

0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:06.521
<v Speaker 1>this before. I think it's a relationship coach that Steve

0:20:06.561 --> 0:20:08.080
<v Speaker 1>and I saw. I think I was just asking him

0:20:08.120 --> 0:20:11.281
<v Speaker 1>questions about couples he works with, and he said, in

0:20:11.321 --> 0:20:15.360
<v Speaker 1>a male female relationship, when they break up, the woman

0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:17.880
<v Speaker 1>has normally like grieved the relationship for at least a

0:20:17.961 --> 0:20:20.600
<v Speaker 1>year prior, so when it comes to breaking up, she's

0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:23.200
<v Speaker 1>ready to go. But for the male comes a bit

0:20:23.241 --> 0:20:24.880
<v Speaker 1>of the shock, and then he goes through his grieving

0:20:24.921 --> 0:20:27.321
<v Speaker 1>process as it's happening. So he's like, you do look

0:20:27.321 --> 0:20:28.680
<v Speaker 1>like you don't even care, and she's like, I've been

0:20:28.681 --> 0:20:30.920
<v Speaker 1>caring for over a year and you haven't taken notice.

0:20:31.241 --> 0:20:34.041
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like in a friendship dynamic, that's happened

0:20:34.041 --> 0:20:37.201
<v Speaker 1>to me as I've grieved the friendship while we're still friends,

0:20:37.481 --> 0:20:40.201
<v Speaker 1>even though I know the friendship isn't aligned or isn't

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<v Speaker 1>lighting me up for Our conversations are different because we've changed,

0:20:44.241 --> 0:20:46.360
<v Speaker 1>we've become mothers now, we're just going on different paths.

0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:48.201
<v Speaker 1>We've got different things going to laugh where our opinions

0:20:48.201 --> 0:20:51.120
<v Speaker 1>have changed, and I've noticed that in a particular friendship

0:20:51.201 --> 0:20:54.761
<v Speaker 1>dynamic that it just wasn't feeling good anymore. It wasn't

0:20:54.801 --> 0:20:59.120
<v Speaker 1>anything bad happened, it just wasn't feeling aligned. But I

0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:01.600
<v Speaker 1>were desperate to make that friendship work, so I just

0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I remember feeling the grief of like I wish we

0:21:03.681 --> 0:21:05.240
<v Speaker 1>could just go back to how connected were you used

0:21:05.281 --> 0:21:08.161
<v Speaker 1>to be, But the connection's not there, and I can't

0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:10.360
<v Speaker 1>put my finger on exactly what it is, but I

0:21:10.360 --> 0:21:13.041
<v Speaker 1>remember grieving that friendship and then like as time went on,

0:21:13.120 --> 0:21:15.720
<v Speaker 1>we spent less and less time together and now we

0:21:15.801 --> 0:21:19.481
<v Speaker 1>don't really talk. There was that whole grieving process. Because

0:21:19.521 --> 0:21:23.001
<v Speaker 1>you change, they change, the situation, change, life changes. It's

0:21:23.041 --> 0:21:27.120
<v Speaker 1>just a part of the journey, unfortunately. But reaving relationship

0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:29.521
<v Speaker 1>dynamics is really tough as well. And I've done that

0:21:29.521 --> 0:21:31.881
<v Speaker 1>with Steve as well. You know, when I first met

0:21:31.921 --> 0:21:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Steve to who he is now, he used to be

0:21:34.321 --> 0:21:37.960
<v Speaker 1>so you wouldn't believe. It's so social, so extroverted. He

0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.801
<v Speaker 1>was the glue. Steve would organize everything without big crew,

0:21:40.801 --> 0:21:42.801
<v Speaker 1>with a crew of twenty friends, would do everything together

0:21:42.801 --> 0:21:46.041
<v Speaker 1>on the weekends, parties like events. He was organized a

0:21:46.041 --> 0:21:48.281
<v Speaker 1>big limo and organize everyone's drinks and like book the

0:21:48.321 --> 0:21:50.281
<v Speaker 1>restaurants and if Steve didn't go, no one went, like

0:21:50.360 --> 0:21:52.960
<v Speaker 1>it was him. And now he's so anti social and

0:21:52.961 --> 0:21:54.641
<v Speaker 1>just wants to be home with his kids and live

0:21:54.681 --> 0:21:58.680
<v Speaker 1>dad life. But yet there's grieving. Oh okay, that was

0:21:58.721 --> 0:22:01.121
<v Speaker 1>an old version of him. Now now he's grown involved

0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:03.921
<v Speaker 1>and values different things. And I remember going through those

0:22:03.921 --> 0:22:05.721
<v Speaker 1>pros and it wasn't like a, oh, I don't lie

0:22:05.721 --> 0:22:08.360
<v Speaker 1>this new version. It's like, oh, it's just different. So

0:22:08.441 --> 0:22:11.841
<v Speaker 1>our relationship dynamic changes then, And I'm sure there's been

0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:13.641
<v Speaker 1>times where he's felt like that with me where I've

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<v Speaker 1>changed and gone through motherhood and postpart and depression and

0:22:17.681 --> 0:22:21.160
<v Speaker 1>then found my spark again and you know, changed my

0:22:21.201 --> 0:22:24.200
<v Speaker 1>careers and I've found different versions of myself. It's like

0:22:24.481 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 1>it can be hard equally as exciting as equally grieving

0:22:28.001 --> 0:22:28.321
<v Speaker 1>it and.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing it with somebody else as well, because you're navigating

0:22:30.281 --> 0:22:32.761
<v Speaker 2>through different people, not just one. Yeah, when you go

0:22:32.801 --> 0:22:35.321
<v Speaker 2>through your own interunnel shifts, you're experiencing it on your own,

0:22:35.360 --> 0:22:37.160
<v Speaker 2>you're like, wow, okay, I'm growing. But like when you

0:22:37.281 --> 0:22:39.240
<v Speaker 2>have another person in the mix, Yeah, you have to

0:22:39.321 --> 0:22:40.721
<v Speaker 2>get to know each other all over again.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine it's been like that throughout the seventeen years. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And even work relationships, like I've worked with a lot

0:22:46.001 --> 0:22:48.600
<v Speaker 1>of friends over the years, and when they don't work

0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:51.481
<v Speaker 1>for me anymore and the friendship fizzles out, I'm like, oh,

0:22:51.681 --> 0:22:54.281
<v Speaker 1>that was a work friendship. Oh that wasn't a proper friendship.

0:22:54.321 --> 0:22:56.361
<v Speaker 1>It was really hard, and I had to grieve what

0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:59.601
<v Speaker 1>I thought our friendship was. And I had to obviously

0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:01.880
<v Speaker 1>turn it around to just be like in acceptance and

0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:04.841
<v Speaker 1>gratitude for that season. Yeah, some people I just meant

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:06.360
<v Speaker 1>to be your life for a season or a reason,

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:09.041
<v Speaker 1>and that work friendship it was that, you know. And

0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:11.480
<v Speaker 1>other work friendships have continued on, like Mega worked for me,

0:23:11.561 --> 0:23:13.280
<v Speaker 1>she's a PA for a while, and we've continued our

0:23:13.281 --> 0:23:15.160
<v Speaker 1>friendship and it's beautiful. But there has been some that

0:23:15.241 --> 0:23:16.801
<v Speaker 1>once they have gone and never hear from them, or

0:23:16.801 --> 0:23:18.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like every now and again, a little swipe up

0:23:18.360 --> 0:23:20.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh, we're not as close as what

0:23:20.120 --> 0:23:20.401
<v Speaker 1>we work.

0:23:20.561 --> 0:23:23.041
<v Speaker 2>That's hard though, when you have that realization and you're

0:23:23.041 --> 0:23:24.640
<v Speaker 2>like all of that coasty.

0:23:24.521 --> 0:23:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you've just here to work. But that's also Okay,

0:23:27.241 --> 0:23:29.120
<v Speaker 1>they serve their purpose and did an amazing job at

0:23:29.120 --> 0:23:31.400
<v Speaker 1>their job when you're better do it without them, and

0:23:31.481 --> 0:23:32.441
<v Speaker 1>you provided them a job.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're just in different seasons. Yeah, and it just

0:23:34.681 --> 0:23:37.321
<v Speaker 2>so happens that you're just on different paths. Yeah, different places.

0:23:37.321 --> 0:23:38.920
<v Speaker 1>And they'll make new work friends and go and have

0:23:38.961 --> 0:23:40.801
<v Speaker 1>those friendships and that might be for a season two

0:23:40.801 --> 0:23:43.001
<v Speaker 1>and that's cool and it's what it is. But the

0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 1>grief is real. Yeah, that's what we want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about and acknowledge because a lot of people don't talk

0:23:46.801 --> 0:23:49.041
<v Speaker 1>about this, Like I've never heard anyone talk about this. True.

0:23:49.120 --> 0:23:51.201
<v Speaker 1>Soonet anyone listening to be like, you're not alone. Yeah,

0:23:51.241 --> 0:23:53.481
<v Speaker 1>we go through this too, do you'll go through this everyone?

0:23:53.521 --> 0:23:55.761
<v Speaker 1>Many of people are. Yeah, so true.

0:23:55.801 --> 0:23:57.801
<v Speaker 2>Like what you said about what happens in friendships, I've

0:23:57.801 --> 0:23:58.721
<v Speaker 2>had that in relationships.

0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:00.921
<v Speaker 1>We you have it in friendships. I have it in relationships.

0:24:00.921 --> 0:24:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Talk about this all the time. This is a common

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with anxiousness around relationships. You're into it, mind's friendship?

0:24:07.281 --> 0:24:09.761
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Oh my god, I'm like anxious Tiana in a

0:24:09.761 --> 0:24:11.761
<v Speaker 2>relationship is not confident Tiana.

0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:14.120
<v Speaker 1>And anxious Ashley is not confident in friendship and it

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.561
<v Speaker 1>stems back to like literally primary school and when you're younger.

0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:19.241
<v Speaker 1>There so many reasons why we like this, but it's

0:24:19.321 --> 0:24:20.880
<v Speaker 1>so real and it's so hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Is I've had that experience you mentioned before around grieving

0:24:24.561 --> 0:24:27.561
<v Speaker 2>a relationship before actually leaving the relationship. Yes, because it

0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:30.201
<v Speaker 2>is that you're fighting for the connection to stay plugged

0:24:30.201 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 2>in that you're like over extending yourself and you're you know,

0:24:33.561 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 2>overcompensating for the other person where they're not showing up

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:38.441
<v Speaker 2>or where you think that they're not showing up. Yeah,

0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:42.761
<v Speaker 2>like keep the glue.

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<v Speaker 1>To the relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I feel like this thing happens internally where

0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:45.561
<v Speaker 2>you just shift.

0:24:45.441 --> 0:24:47.120
<v Speaker 1>You do, but it can't explain it.

0:24:47.201 --> 0:24:48.961
<v Speaker 2>No, But it's a long progression. It's like a build

0:24:49.041 --> 0:24:50.880
<v Speaker 2>up of time and time again feeling something and then

0:24:50.921 --> 0:24:54.120
<v Speaker 2>you just and you unplug right and then you're just like, oh,

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:57.640
<v Speaker 2>I get it now, this isn't it. But that grieving process, Yes,

0:24:57.761 --> 0:25:00.041
<v Speaker 2>you just know, I think, because it doesn't matter what

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:03.160
<v Speaker 2>point in the grieving process you are, or what the

0:25:03.201 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 2>reasoning is or how the contact of the situation is,

0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:06.961
<v Speaker 2>it hurts the same.

0:25:07.041 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 1>It does. It is such a good point. It hurts

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:09.961
<v Speaker 1>the same.

0:25:10.041 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 2>It does whether you're being broken up with and it's

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:15.360
<v Speaker 2>the person you want to spend your life with. The

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:18.321
<v Speaker 2>grieving process is hard. Whether you're the person doing it.

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.160
<v Speaker 2>The grieving process is hard. Whether it's a friendship, it

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:21.681
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter.

0:25:21.761 --> 0:25:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Like the grieving process is hard.

0:25:23.521 --> 0:25:25.361
<v Speaker 2>Oh, shit is uncomfortable.

0:25:25.441 --> 0:25:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I remember asking this is so offt topic. I remember

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:29.761
<v Speaker 1>asking you, But it's just interesting because I haven't been

0:25:29.801 --> 0:25:31.801
<v Speaker 1>broken up with. I've only done the breaking up. Remember

0:25:31.801 --> 0:25:34.001
<v Speaker 1>I asked you, and I asked Steve too, what's harder

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:36.640
<v Speaker 1>being broken up with or you doing the breaking up?

0:25:36.761 --> 0:25:37.400
<v Speaker 1>What did you say?

0:25:37.961 --> 0:25:40.121
<v Speaker 2>I think I said being broken up with, and.

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Steve said the same thing. Because you're out of control

0:25:42.001 --> 0:25:43.521
<v Speaker 1>and you have no choice, So you might want to

0:25:43.561 --> 0:25:45.761
<v Speaker 1>be with that person. Yeah, and you have no choice

0:25:45.761 --> 0:25:47.400
<v Speaker 1>but to move on. I definitely think.

0:25:47.241 --> 0:25:49.001
<v Speaker 2>It's harder, especially if you're in love with the person,

0:25:49.481 --> 0:25:52.041
<v Speaker 2>predicted the future vision of your life with them and

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:54.440
<v Speaker 2>all that sort of stuff. I do think it's harder.

0:25:54.681 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 2>But also when somebody else breaks up with you and

0:25:56.761 --> 0:25:59.360
<v Speaker 2>they're honest with you, it allows you to kind of detach.

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 2>I feel like if they're honest with you, you can

0:26:02.321 --> 0:26:04.321
<v Speaker 2>kind of like okay, like I respect myself enough to

0:26:04.321 --> 0:26:05.801
<v Speaker 2>know that this person will want to be with me.

0:26:05.921 --> 0:26:08.640
<v Speaker 1>That's okay. You're as conscious as what you are, Like

0:26:08.761 --> 0:26:09.721
<v Speaker 1>most people would not find that.

0:26:10.321 --> 0:26:12.281
<v Speaker 2>Otherwise, I find if you're the one doing the breaking

0:26:12.360 --> 0:26:14.281
<v Speaker 2>up and that person still wants you, you have to

0:26:14.281 --> 0:26:17.081
<v Speaker 2>have really strong boundaries. I think it's sometimes to go guilty.

0:26:17.241 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 2>You feel guilty, it's easy to go back and entertain

0:26:19.481 --> 0:26:22.801
<v Speaker 2>it because it feels nice and all the things. I

0:26:22.801 --> 0:26:24.241
<v Speaker 2>don't know that makes sense.

0:26:24.241 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 1>It does. I've always done the brain if I only

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 1>had three partners, but my two before Steve, like I

0:26:28.561 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>broke up with them, Yeah, and I just felt like

0:26:30.120 --> 0:26:32.961
<v Speaker 1>I was destroying their world and I felt so guilty

0:26:33.120 --> 0:26:35.481
<v Speaker 1>and it was an awful feeling. But then when Steve

0:26:35.521 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 1>explained it on the other end, it's like when you

0:26:37.481 --> 0:26:39.001
<v Speaker 1>want to be with someone and they don't want to

0:26:39.001 --> 0:26:40.961
<v Speaker 1>be with you, you can't do anything to change their mind,

0:26:41.321 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and then you feel you don't want to beg for them,

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:44.881
<v Speaker 1>but you kind of do because you want them so much,

0:26:44.921 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 1>and you'll do anything for them. You'll abandon yourself just

0:26:47.201 --> 0:26:48.801
<v Speaker 1>to make it work because you love them so much.

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:50.640
<v Speaker 1>She's like, it's the worst feeling in the world.

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Because you're willing to do well whatever to make it work.

0:26:54.360 --> 0:26:56.641
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then they're just like, Nope, this is my decision.

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.001
<v Speaker 2>You know something else on the topic of grieving, Yeah,

0:26:59.001 --> 0:27:02.321
<v Speaker 2>the past relationship of mine. When I left that relationship,

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I felt like I had to grieve the version of

0:27:04.681 --> 0:27:06.281
<v Speaker 2>myself that I was when I was with him.

0:27:06.441 --> 0:27:09.921
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. I loved who I was.

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:11.961
<v Speaker 2>When I was with him, Yeah, in terms of how

0:27:12.001 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I showed up, my level of commitment, all of these things.

0:27:15.561 --> 0:27:17.761
<v Speaker 2>And then when I wasn't with him, I thought, oh

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:19.360
<v Speaker 2>my god, if I'm not with him anymore, I'm going

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.041
<v Speaker 2>to lose this version of myself. Yeah, And so I

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 2>felt like, in a way, I actually did have to

0:27:23.681 --> 0:27:25.321
<v Speaker 2>grieve a version of me that I was when I

0:27:25.360 --> 0:27:27.281
<v Speaker 2>was with him, because one, I wasn't being my authentic

0:27:27.281 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 2>self fully, not one hundred percent.

0:27:29.521 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>And then I yeah, I had.

0:27:30.321 --> 0:27:32.601
<v Speaker 2>To grieve yeah, yeah, the parts of me that kind

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:33.441
<v Speaker 2>of left with him.

0:27:33.681 --> 0:27:35.120
<v Speaker 1>That makes sense, Does that make sense? I think a

0:27:35.120 --> 0:27:38.321
<v Speaker 1>lot of people will be able to relate to that. Yeah. Oh.

0:27:38.360 --> 0:27:40.241
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of grief in general, And no matter

0:27:40.281 --> 0:27:42.801
<v Speaker 1>what situation, grief is just it hurts the same. It

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 1>does it had the same We all go through it,

0:27:45.241 --> 0:27:47.401
<v Speaker 1>we all experience it. That's something collectively that we all

0:27:47.441 --> 0:27:47.841
<v Speaker 1>have to go.

0:27:47.801 --> 0:27:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Through, and we'll be here crying to each other and

0:27:50.001 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 2>grieving more future things.

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