1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is the Fitty and Whipper with Kate Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: We've spoken about running away from home on this show before. 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 3: I think every kid goes through it. You just are over, 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 3: you a rebellious stage in your life. You're off mum 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 3: and dad. They won't drop you off at footy training 6 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 3: early enough and then they forget to pick you up. 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 3: And you know what, Dad, he's just a loser. So 8 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 3: it's time for me to leave. Guys, I'm going to 9 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 3: take a few things out of the fridge. I've got 10 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 3: my backpack and I'll see you in a few weeks. 11 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 4: Have a good one. I'll take the Tim Tams and 12 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 4: get out of here. 13 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 3: What I want to know is thirteen twenty four to ten? 14 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 3: How far did they get running away? This is an 15 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 3: unbelievable story of a young bloke called bent. Ben chrystellis right. 16 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: He's fifteen years of age. 17 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: Now. 18 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: This this was in the news at the start of 19 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: this month, so July, the first week of July. This 20 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: came out okay, but it said Ben chrystellis missing. Fifteen 21 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: year old boy found safe and well after going missing 22 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 3: from Scarborough. He's over in wa He's gone missing and 23 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: the article says a fifteen year old boy has been 24 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: found safe and well. Mother Olivia Hunter took to social 25 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: media to appeal for the public's help to find her 26 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 3: teenage son after Ben said he had not been heard 27 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: or seen from from. 28 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: Last Thursday last week. So they found him, which is 29 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: so scary. 30 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 4: I'm lucky he's safe. 31 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: The thing is that Ben's run away again and a video, Yeah, 32 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: a video. I'm about to show you this on Instagram. 33 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: Ben's fifteen years of age. Ben is over with a 34 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 3: few mates in Bali at the moment party. 35 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: How old is he? 36 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 4: Fifteen? 37 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: He's fifteen? 38 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 4: Oh Ben, let's have a look at Ben. 39 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: So I just so that's the story there, and that's 40 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: been in Bali at a nightclub in Barley. 41 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 4: With a girl and giving the camera a one fingered salute. 42 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, I don't know if he's he's 43 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: with a few mates though there's a few people around, 44 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: and they're at a nightclub. 45 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 4: How did he get a fifteen year old buy a 46 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 4: ticket to go somewhere? So, I don't know, can you 47 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 4: do that? I mean, he hasn't really run away, He's 48 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 4: just gone on a holiday without telling anyone. 49 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: Well, that's running away. He looks like you're lot old? 50 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: Is he accompanied minor as a fifteen year old? 51 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: Or can you sneak your way on and say that 52 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: you're eight? 53 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 4: Am Tommy. You've done a lot of sneaking onto aeroplanes? 54 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 4: Can you do that at the age of fifteen? Yeah? 55 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: Just quite a chicken and go see a lad of 56 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 4: guys by the way. I'll tell them when I get there. 57 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: Yes, So passages twelve or above may travel alone, okay, 58 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: but I presume that. 59 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 4: Well, not many people are running away to Bali, are they? 60 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 4: Not many people are leaving Scarborough and saying to their mum, 61 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 4: We're just going to grab some milk because I think 62 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 4: we're out of it. But surely the airport, where's. 63 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: The cash from? If it's someone's on the plane. Isn't 64 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 2: there a hosty saying. 65 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: Are you okay? 66 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 2: Is where? 67 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 4: Who are you traveling with? 68 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: Who's picking you up from the airport? What's actually unfolding here? 69 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 4: I'm just having to cur to mate, get out of 70 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 4: my face. 71 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: Well, he's got his t and mxes on. He's got 72 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 3: a bum bag as we're in an order cat. He's 73 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 3: a bit of an eshae, but he's got over to 74 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: BALI that is an unbelievable effort. And thirteen twenty fourteen, 75 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: how far did you get when you did run away? 76 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: Like, how far did you go? Should you get into state? 77 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: I mean overseas? 78 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 4: Is my god, it's a really good effort. 79 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: Well Number one, ring your mother just say, look, Mum, 80 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 3: give you the heads up. 81 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,839 Speaker 2: I'm okay, I'm having a great time. 82 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 3: I'm in kuder. I'm just I'm here with the lads. 83 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: I'll be home soon. But Mum would be freak here. 84 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: I've just got a new tap, got my nose pierced. 85 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 4: Chantell's in RaSE hill, Shaddy, your son ran away? 86 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: And yeah, So he was teen at the time, and 87 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: I didn't notice because I have, you know, six children, 88 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: and I was busy. I was cleaning everything like that, 89 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: and I was like really busy. And then I was like, hey, 90 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: it's quiet. 91 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 5: Where is he? 92 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: And then he'd he'd taken this little bike because he's 93 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: ten years old, to the park. And then I was like, okay, 94 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: obviously he's gone to his friends or gone to chill out. 95 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: And then I was like, okay, nine o'clock, my husband's 96 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: coming home and he's like where is he? 97 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 5: And I was like, I don't know, Oh. 98 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: My god, gosh. 99 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 3: Then you start freaking and shan't tell you you ring friends' 100 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 3: houses out fi did he get? 101 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: We did? We didn't know anyone, so we were walking 102 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: around the streets and everything, and then he and then 103 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: he was gone for twenty four hours. Apparently he had 104 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: fallen asleep at the park and then we and then 105 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: like even to this day, I'm like, so, are you 106 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: going to run away again? 107 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 4: I'm glad you're laughing. 108 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: Run away again? 109 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: Laughing pretty chill about it. 110 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 4: Why did he run away? Did he have any excuse 111 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 4: or reason? 112 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: No, because I have a phone, and like back then 113 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: he would like try and steal my phone to watch 114 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: his little shows and everything. And I was like, come on, 115 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, I've only got one phone and you've got 116 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: to share it between them. And then I was like, 117 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: you've got to do some dishes, or you've got to 118 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: do your room, because his room. 119 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: Was like, yeah, what you've run away. 120 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 2: I mean, that is a great survival story, let's be honest. 121 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: But it could have ended badly. 122 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: The hardest thing is he's got he's got autism. He's 123 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: such an amazing boy. Now, like he went and got 124 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: his first job by himself. He's been there a year, 125 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: you know, did it on his own. He's just got 126 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: his loners. You know, fully give him credit. But he goes, oh, 127 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: you're mom, you don't care about us, And I said, 128 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: there's so many of you guys. 129 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: Does fair enough? It's a story, Samantha and Riverston? Is 130 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: this you? Sam? 131 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 5: It was I was fifteen and a missing person? 132 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 4: Where did you get on? What happened? 133 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 5: My dad was a bit raff and said if I 134 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 5: didn't like his rules, to leave, So I did? 135 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 4: Okay, how long did you go for? 136 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: Sam? 137 00:05:59,080 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 5: Just over a year? 138 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 4: Oh, so did you tell them you were leaving? Sam? 139 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: No? 140 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 4: I can? And how soon? I mean it needs to 141 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 4: be twenty four hours before you file a missing person, 142 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 4: isn't it? 143 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 5: I think? So? Yeah, this is back in the nineties, right, Yeah, 144 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 5: the rules were back then. 145 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: So did you have friends, Sam? Going? You know your 146 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: mum and dad have filed. 147 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 3: A missing missing person's report they're looking for you. 148 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 5: No. Because I ended up in a small town called 149 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 5: dun Durban, which is out near Dorigo. So I had 150 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 5: no TV or anything like that. So I didn't even 151 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 5: know crazy and I found out I came back into Sydney, 152 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 5: and I've seen a newspaper sitting on a service station 153 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 5: counter and it said, have you seen Samantha? 154 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 4: You're kidding me? Oh, so should probably check in with someone, Sam. 155 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: So, did you know when I was sixteenth you got 156 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: a job and earned money yourself and survived yourself. 157 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 5: No, I didn't get a job. The town that I 158 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 5: ended up in all the little village, but I did. 159 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 5: They knew who I was and what was going on. 160 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 5: So I was actually supported by a really small village. 161 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 5: They protected me and kept me okay until I was 162 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 5: sixteen in a liddle age. 163 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 4: So, Sam, obviously you knew that there was the police 164 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 4: and everybody concerned. Where there's theories out there of what 165 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 4: had happened to you, like. 166 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 5: There was quite a few. 167 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 4: And did you feel like did you feel the need 168 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 4: to alert authorities to say, hey, just a rough home? 169 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 4: So I decided to take off in instead of stopping 170 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: an entire community to look for you. 171 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 5: Well, it was funny because when I say village, it 172 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 5: was also like a small group of police officers that 173 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 5: knew who I was as well. Right, I think it 174 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 5: was like the day after my sixteenth birthday, they knocked 175 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 5: on my door with a bunch of flowers and a 176 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 5: box of chocolates and said happy birthday. And when I 177 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 5: said to them, you knew who I was and what 178 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 5: I'd done, and they said there was no point taking 179 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 5: me back home because they knew they just have to 180 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 5: come and find me again. 181 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 182 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 4: Cool. 183 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: Do you have kids of your own? 184 00:07:59,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: Now? 185 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 6: I do. 186 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 5: I have five kids and now I work with troubled youths. 187 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: Did you repair the relationship with your parents? Sam or No? No, okay, nice, 188 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: Sometimes you don't need to was. 189 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 4: En updown and said the phenomenal story. Thank you for sharing. 190 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 4: That's wild, Lizien Abbotsford. What happened to you? 191 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 6: We were on a family holiday and my in Europe 192 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 6: and my grandfather became ill, so my parents went home 193 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 6: and left my sister and I in Rome. We decided 194 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 6: we didn't like Rome because the Italian men were following 195 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 6: us everywhere, so we decided to go skiing in Austria 196 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 6: and went to a small Austrian town called floodming go 197 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 6: On and was skiing on a mountain. My parents had 198 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 6: no idea where we were, so sometimes we would ring 199 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 6: from a pay phone and then just sort of can't 200 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 6: hear you and hang up the phone. And the Newere 201 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 6: soldiers had come across the Samara and men, and my 202 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 6: sister and I were just skiing with them on the mountain. 203 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: Living your best lifeless sixteen list. 204 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,119 Speaker 5: It was so much fud. 205 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 3: Did your parents when you got back homeies, were you disciplined? 206 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: What happened? 207 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: I think they. 208 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 6: Were so stressed about my grandfather being ill, and one 209 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 6: of my family members was this was back in the eighties. 210 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 6: He's senior in the police force, so I think eventually 211 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 6: they contacted him to see that he could find out 212 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 6: where we were, and because it was we had bought 213 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 6: a train ticket and we were staying in a like, 214 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 6: not an airbnb, like their bed and breakfast, the own thing. 215 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 6: And I think after a while that they contacted the 216 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 6: police to try and find her, but that was after 217 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 6: a number of days, because they were the fool who 218 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,119 Speaker 6: sort of left us. 219 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, don't know how well it would have gone when 220 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 4: you got home to Sydney and you were there with 221 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 4: the two American soldiers you'd bought that. 222 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: For mom and dad. 223 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 6: You, Liz, have you grown out of this kind of behavior, 224 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 6: because it doesn't sound like it. 225 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: Probably that is great I'm not going to die wondering 226 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 4: Liz It's in Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova 227 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 4: podcast or great shows like this, download the Nova player, 228 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 4: fight the app store or Google Play.