Speaker 1: From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Shery, lovely dulland looking forward to tonight's show.
Speaker 2: Come on into the man cave because I've got about
Speaker 2: four hours of stuff to talk about. Let's make the
Speaker 2: most of the sixty minutes that we have. Of course,
Speaker 2: no sook's, no lefties. We like to do this every
Speaker 2: few nights because we know you love it. James Morrow, Mtcanavan,
Speaker 2: they'll be here in a moment of twoth time. I'm
Speaker 2: going to absolutely give it both barrels to Anika wells Now.
Speaker 2: She was out there preening and carrying on today. Wait
Speaker 2: till I tend you about just how cushyer life this
Speaker 2: Shela has gone versus the good people of small business
Speaker 2: in Australia. And an Australian has played in and won
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, A very proud Australian, a very proud
Speaker 2: Western Sydney boy.
Speaker 1: And I'll get to that in a moment or twoth time.
Speaker 2: But first, as we know election, Prime Minister call it
Speaker 2: when he designs, it'll be some time between April and May.
Speaker 2: Earlier in April means less chance of a budget. We'll
Speaker 2: ll wait and see when it is going to be.
Speaker 2: But who do you believe the polls or the bookies. Well,
Speaker 2: if like me, the United States election was very instructive
Speaker 2: and the bookies were the ones who had greater clarity
Speaker 2: than the polsters, then today is a very important day
Speaker 2: because the odds of the Coalition winning are getting stronger.
Speaker 2: In fact, according to the very latest numbers which have
Speaker 2: just been posted by sports Bet, the Coalition is now
Speaker 2: down to a dollar fifty three, the Labor Party out
Speaker 2: to two dollars fifty. Now what version, whether it's a
Speaker 2: majority of minority, which way, all the rest of it.
Speaker 2: That's the fun to watch, But that is commanding, not total,
Speaker 2: not complete. Obviously, once you're starting to get down where
Speaker 2: the wa Labor Party is a like a dollar one
Speaker 2: and the opposition is out to eleven bucks, then something
Speaker 2: seems inevitable.
Speaker 1: But they have been consistent.
Speaker 2: They've been consistent since the end of last year and
Speaker 2: it has been getting better for the Coalition since the
Speaker 2: start of this year. After the Prime Minister trying to
Speaker 2: take as little time off as possible in summer reset
Speaker 2: reset their speech speech.
Speaker 1: There no big change.
Speaker 2: But you will have heard today about the opinion poll
Speaker 2: which was up at the Redbridge people and given to
Speaker 2: the Herald Sun this morning, which was about the outer
Speaker 2: suburban factor. Now, of course the seats that Labor would
Speaker 2: take for granted, places like where it we in the
Speaker 2: state election. Well, we now know that there's a few
Speaker 2: holes and that block of cheese, and there is a
Speaker 2: good chance that there could be some dramatic things that
Speaker 2: are going to happen in the suburbs at the election. Now,
Speaker 2: whether that's enough to get the coalition closed or even
Speaker 2: over the line to seventy six seats, well, that is
Speaker 2: the entire game between now and then. But I wanted
Speaker 2: to take a moment or two. Once you've heard all
Speaker 2: of the insights from Victoria, and we did all those
Speaker 2: last night. Another reason to join us on Sunday nights,
Speaker 2: regardless of what sports on or anything else that's on.
Speaker 2: Make sure that you watch it live recorded or catch
Speaker 2: up on streaming, because we get right into the granula
Speaker 2: on the Sunday night, meaning most of that chat has
Speaker 2: been done and you can start your Monday fully informed.
Speaker 2: Now you've heard many people talk about this pole. I
Speaker 2: want to take a couple of seconds to go through
Speaker 2: the poll because it is going to start to tell
Speaker 2: us the story of opportunity for the opposition, worry for
Speaker 2: the government, or are there some silver linings in them
Speaker 2: political clouds. Let's look at all of this together, all right,
Speaker 2: the overall right now Labor Party is behind fifty one
Speaker 2: and a half to forty eight and a half. Obviously
Speaker 2: that would be a change of government. But let's start
Speaker 2: to slice this pie up men and women. Now, there
Speaker 2: is going to be a massive gendered part to this
Speaker 2: election and about how people are going to vote. Now,
Speaker 2: we know that men have been getting behind the Conservative
Speaker 2: cause in places like the United States, Canada, and even
Speaker 2: in places like New Zealand of course of recent times.
Speaker 2: You can see there though the lead that the Labour
Speaker 2: Party has with women is only fifty one to forty nine.
Speaker 2: The lead with men is fifty four forty six in favor.
Speaker 1: Of the coalition.
Speaker 2: Now, basically in Australia, the electorate is male, half the
Speaker 2: electorate is female, Half of the electorate is under the
Speaker 2: age of fifty. Half of the electorate is over the
Speaker 2: age of fifty. So when you start to see big trends,
Speaker 2: then you're starting to see like a whole bunch of
Speaker 2: people pulling in the right direction when it comes to
Speaker 2: the rowboat, so it is starting to tilt towards the right. Now,
Speaker 2: the best hope for the Labor Party is to hold
Speaker 2: on to as many young voters as possible. At fifty
Speaker 2: seven forty three. But I really want to show you
Speaker 2: this number here because this is the silver lining for
Speaker 2: the Labor Party people thirty five to forty nine. Labour
Speaker 2: currently leads fifty one to forty nine. Now, generally speaking,
Speaker 2: this is the demographic. This is the demographic that ultimately
Speaker 2: is where most of the young families or people towards
Speaker 2: the start or middle parts of their professional career are.
Speaker 2: This is generally speaking, where a lot of swing voters are. Now,
Speaker 2: as I mentioned before, over the age of fifty, well,
Speaker 2: that obviously tends pretty hardcore blue.
Speaker 1: Under the age of fifty. It only goes.
Speaker 2: Hardcore in eighteen to thirty fours. So fifty one forty
Speaker 2: nine is razor. I mean, that's rounding errors and did
Speaker 2: they ask enough people in this place or that place?
Speaker 2: But that tells you that obviously, the reason how they've
Speaker 2: been able to get to a scenario where the Liberal
Speaker 2: Party ends up in front is because of those massive leads.
Speaker 2: Sixty five plus and fifty to sixty four, So people
Speaker 2: over the age of fifty at least fifty five up
Speaker 2: to sixty percent of those people going one way, and
Speaker 2: not enough young people going Labour's way. Hence why this
Speaker 2: thing starts to get tighter. Now I want to get
Speaker 2: into another bit of detail here, because I reckon you
Speaker 2: can cop it. Let's slice and dice as much as
Speaker 2: this information as possible. Let's have a look at where
Speaker 2: people live and how that is breaking down right now,
Speaker 2: and how does this compare to where you are. You
Speaker 2: can see, how's to slightly flatter picture than what you
Speaker 2: just saw when it came to age and when it
Speaker 2: came to gender. Unsurprisingly, people who live right in the
Speaker 2: heart of the city is fifty four forty six in
Speaker 2: favor of labor in the fifty five forty five would
Speaker 2: see the Labour Party lose a whole bunch of seats. Now,
Speaker 2: this basically is the bet that you wouldn't need teal seats,
Speaker 2: that you would be able to get enough seats to
Speaker 2: get yourself to say seventy to then start negotiating after seventy.
Speaker 2: If suburbs and there's plenty of those in Sydney Melbourne
Speaker 2: and Brusban that are up for play, plus of course
Speaker 2: what's happening in outer suburban adelaide what might be happening
Speaker 2: in Darwin. And then once we get over to Western
Speaker 2: Australia as well. The government however, sees a little bit
Speaker 2: of a silver lining here in the provincial numbers, so
Speaker 2: that would be say Woollongong or a Newcastle speaking in
Speaker 2: New South Wales. Whether you count places like Darwin as
Speaker 2: provincial or as capital cities, a demographer can get involved
Speaker 2: in that. The reason I keep mentioning Darwin is the
Speaker 2: seat of Solomon now that was held by the Liberal
Speaker 2: Party for quite a period of time.
Speaker 1: It then left the Liberal Party. It's been Labor ever since.
Speaker 2: But it is a place that can swing Lingiari And again,
Speaker 2: whether you counterplace like Alice Springs is a provincial place
Speaker 2: or a country town again up to the demographers right.
Speaker 2: But as you can see, suburbs they are moving and
Speaker 2: moving hard. A ten point swing in those is pretty
Speaker 2: bad for the government. The provincial sectors, though, may they
Speaker 2: be able to hold the Liberal Party back from being
Speaker 2: able to get near its minority and Labor able to
Speaker 2: hold onto its minority. There are lots of seats in
Speaker 2: it and around the Hunter Valley that along sort of
Speaker 2: spoken as a bit of a white whale for the
Speaker 2: Nats or the Libs.
Speaker 1: Is that what's about to happen?
Speaker 2: We'll see And unsurprisingly the same margin in the suburbs
Speaker 2: is reflected in regional Australia.
Speaker 1: This one is really fascinating to me.
Speaker 2: People that are born in Australia fifty one to forty
Speaker 2: nine in favor of the Coalition people born overseas. But
Speaker 2: hang on, aren't the Coalition the racist people trying to
Speaker 2: scare people about foreign buyers and immigration?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Guess what again? That fascinating number. And I don't know
Speaker 2: if my team can toggle around here, but we'll do
Speaker 2: our best. Okay, As you can see people born outside
Speaker 2: of Australia fifty two percent. Then go back to out
Speaker 2: of metropolitan areas. That's where people that are newer to
Speaker 2: the country end up living. So if you've got a
Speaker 2: lead amongst those outs born outside of the country, and
Speaker 2: you've got a substantial lead in that out of metropolitan areas,
Speaker 2: that's where maybe some of the taken for granted labor
Speaker 2: vote will start to disappear. All right, A couple more
Speaker 2: because I think you can handle it. And again I
Speaker 2: want to get right into the data here. I know
Speaker 2: there's an awful lot of it here, but you can
Speaker 2: start to see the picture and you'll also start to
Speaker 2: hear what they are saying when it comes to the election. Now,
Speaker 2: lot about education. Now, this is a big issue in
Speaker 2: American politics, about people who got a university education or
Speaker 2: people who didn't even finish you at twelve. Fascinatingly to me,
Speaker 2: people who have got a tafe or a trade Those
Speaker 2: people are fifty eight to forty two right now in
Speaker 2: favor of the Liberal Party. People who didn't finish your
Speaker 2: twelve sixty four percent in favor of the Liberal Party.
Speaker 2: The silver lining for the Labor Party is the people
Speaker 2: who finished school but didn't go to university. They have
Speaker 2: a pretty sizable lead there, fifty six forty four, and
Speaker 2: again a sizeable lead of people who have been to university.
Speaker 2: In the overall picture of Australians and what sort of
Speaker 2: education they have, it's pretty even amongst all four of
Speaker 2: these sectors. So you have a look at, say, the
Speaker 2: leads of the people who never finished year twelve, the
Speaker 2: leads of the people who are tayful vocational, and that's
Speaker 2: how the Liberal Party gets its nose ever so slightly
Speaker 2: in front, at least according to this one. The other
Speaker 2: defining factor of what happened in America, and again why
Speaker 2: they talk about what they talk about every day, is
Speaker 2: none other than the amount of money.
Speaker 1: That we all have.
Speaker 2: For those that are sitting pretty in fact, earning more
Speaker 2: than two thousand dollars a week, guess what they prefer.
Speaker 2: The Labor Party people are running between one and two
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. They are preferring the Liberal Party. People earning
Speaker 2: less than one thousand dollars a week. They are preferring
Speaker 2: the Labor Party and the people who would prefer not
Speaker 2: to say because they are either way about two thousand,
Speaker 2: or perhaps way below one thousand, fifty nine to forty
Speaker 2: one in favor of the Liberal Party. So if you
Speaker 2: said these numbers and you go, jeez, how's it fifty
Speaker 2: one forty nine, this is how you get the fifty
Speaker 2: one to forty nine, right, A little win here, a
Speaker 2: little win there, a little win here, a little win there.
Speaker 2: And then finally, we have talked a lot about renting
Speaker 2: versus owning, versus paying off a house or somebody who has.
Speaker 1: Paid off their house. Have a look at how.
Speaker 2: This looks now when it comes to homes people who
Speaker 2: own the house outright Liberal sixty one thirty nine. That's
Speaker 2: a third of the country. Remember, a third of the
Speaker 2: country's trying to pay off a mortgage, and right now, amazingly,
Speaker 2: despite the fact that they have had thirteen interest rate
Speaker 2: rises since twenty twenty two, twelve of them under albow
Speaker 2: the mortgage belt, well, that is basically a tie the
Speaker 2: mortgage belt thirty to fifty four. Those are the two
Speaker 2: regions that if they start to build a lead in
Speaker 2: either direction, they're going to win the election. Fascinatingly with Renters,
Speaker 2: generally the Greens vote helps push them. But you can
Speaker 2: start to see that picture about what I believe to
Speaker 2: be the general statistical path towards a prime ministership. People
Speaker 2: who have a mortgage don't have an awful lot of money,
Speaker 2: we're born in Australia, have pretty average education, and again
Speaker 2: you can see a slightly spotted way that things are
Speaker 2: leading when it comes to the polls. Again, everyone else
Speaker 2: can talk the headlines, everyone else can tell you what
Speaker 2: they know about the numbers. I'll show you the numbers
Speaker 2: because on this show, remember I want to try.
Speaker 1: To give you the data.
Speaker 2: If I can give you the data, then those are
Speaker 2: the bricks in the wall of the arguments that you
Speaker 2: can have with other people. If you want people to
Speaker 2: see what you have just seen here on Telly, spread
Speaker 2: the video. It'll be up soon at skynews dot com
Speaker 2: dot au. Now, if this is headed towards a minority parliament,
Speaker 2: let's be honest. Green's MPs they're automatically going to go
Speaker 2: with Labor. Andrew Wilkie is going to go with labor.
Speaker 2: Helen Haynes is going to go with labor. So the
Speaker 2: Labor Party probably thinks that they can afford to lose
Speaker 2: even more seats than the coalition can if it gets
Speaker 2: into a fight about whom.
Speaker 1: Is owing to form the next government.
Speaker 2: Now we know people like Rebecca Sharky and Bob Catter
Speaker 2: have previously said that the first person that they will
Speaker 2: turn to in a negotiation is the person with the
Speaker 2: most number of seats. No way of knowing that until,
Speaker 2: of course, after the election, which brings us to the
Speaker 2: Tiffany teals. Now they will play quite a game between
Speaker 2: now and the election, and for some reason the media
Speaker 2: will let them play it where they will not even
Speaker 2: begin to tell.
Speaker 1: Us what their process of decision making will be.
Speaker 2: Now they're going to say that's because they want to
Speaker 2: leave everything open. But you can go into it saying, look, obviously,
Speaker 2: whoever has the most seats, they'll be the one who
Speaker 2: will call first. That doesn't commit them to going one
Speaker 2: way or the other, but at least gives us an
Speaker 2: idea of how it starts. But as a group, if
Speaker 2: they wanted to, they could take the one with the
Speaker 2: fewest number of seats, add them and then that brings
Speaker 2: them to the closest number to seventy six. Well, today,
Speaker 2: finally we've got a little bit of it lit in
Speaker 2: the indication of which way one of the teals is
Speaker 2: going to go. Sophie Scomps represents the seat of mckeller,
Speaker 2: formerly a Bromin bishop Fame and a place where James
Speaker 2: Brown would like to take it back for the Liberal Party. Well,
Speaker 2: she has started to put and I wouldn't say meat
Speaker 2: on the bone, perhaps tomato sauce on the bone, but
Speaker 2: this is what she says. Scamp said she would decide
Speaker 2: her support in a hung parliament based on policies including
Speaker 2: public integrity, while there already is, of course the National
Speaker 2: Corruption Commission. Climate Change, well, that would be code for
Speaker 2: labor health presumably code for labor, a key issue given her.
Speaker 1: Background as a doctor.
Speaker 2: Quote, I personally have not been impressed with the policy
Speaker 2: ideas that are coming out of the coalition. So she
Speaker 2: is now leaning read in a seat that has not
Speaker 2: voted read. As best as I know, ever, will this
Speaker 2: be part of the consideration of people going into this
Speaker 2: next election.
Speaker 1: We'll all find out together. She decides to.
Speaker 2: Hone in on what I explained in great chapter and
Speaker 2: verse last week was truly about giving small business the
Speaker 2: same tax concessions as big business, to take clients out
Speaker 2: to lunch to say thank thank you for helping them
Speaker 2: stay above float. Their lunch's policy is lightweight. It's a
Speaker 2: lightweight sugar hit. It's not serious policy. I want to
Speaker 2: see serious policy on the table about how you're going
Speaker 2: to make a more prosperous, stronger, safer and secure country.
Speaker 2: They're the only things that I'm worrying about. So we'll wait,
Speaker 2: We'll see which way she's going to go. But she
Speaker 2: is now starting to put together what the picture is
Speaker 2: of which way she would go. If it came down
Speaker 2: to her vote at an election. I want all of
Speaker 2: the independence, regardless of where they own the country, to
Speaker 2: start to put some meat on the bone. I want
Speaker 2: the people who are paid to talk about politics for
Speaker 2: a living to actually push them to go. Okay, I
Speaker 2: know you're not going to tell me. I know you're
Speaker 2: afraid that if somehow you show a little more red
Speaker 2: or a little more blue, you're going to scare off
Speaker 2: the people who've decided to go to teel a shade
Speaker 2: of green. But still, can you start to tell us what?
Speaker 2: And if they don't tell yet, then you can't vote
Speaker 2: for them because there could be a very big decision
Speaker 2: which is coming up on their way. But I've got
Speaker 2: to go back to where we were last week because
Speaker 2: there's another example of somebody who is talking about the
Speaker 2: lunch's policy, and this one's going to be fun. In Australia,
Speaker 2: there is a substantial difference between a small business and
Speaker 2: a big business. It could be defined by the number
Speaker 2: of employees you have or the turnover that you have.
Speaker 2: According to Bureau Statistics, they define small businesses people who
Speaker 2: have fewer the nineteen employees. By the way, about sixty
Speaker 2: seven percent I think it is of small businesses are
Speaker 2: sole traders, but small business makes up ninety seven percent
Speaker 2: of all businesses in Australia. As you know, the decision
Speaker 2: of the Liberal Party is to say that up to
Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars that a small business, including a sole trader,
Speaker 2: would be able not to have to pay fringe benefits
Speaker 2: tax on taking a key client out to lunch. It's
Speaker 2: not about buying tickets to the opera, u oasis or
Speaker 2: getting a box and taking people to bathist. It is
Speaker 2: about trying to do two things. One stimulate the cafe
Speaker 2: and restaurant industry, which we've shown you many times is
Speaker 2: on its knees because local people who might say be
Speaker 2: the pool cleaner or their hairdresser or the person doing
Speaker 2: the lawns might be able to take some of their
Speaker 2: key clients out for a sandwich or a snitzel. Of course,
Speaker 2: remember when it comes to this policy, it's pegged at
Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars. But the number of soul traders or
Speaker 2: very small businesses that would have twenty thousand dollars to
Speaker 2: spend on such things as of course virtually non existent.
Speaker 2: And I've spent some time talking about how the Labor
Speaker 2: Party is trying to make this out like it's a
Speaker 2: dollar of taxpayers money for monocle wearing, top hat wearing
Speaker 2: cigar smoking.
Speaker 1: Bosses to rip off their workers.
Speaker 2: Ninety seven percent of all business in Australia are not
Speaker 2: those people. And you know how much I am fond
Speaker 2: of the cigars as it is for my health. Don't
Speaker 2: do it, don't start. But perhaps that's why I focus
Speaker 2: in on this blow. But that's the caricature that they
Speaker 2: are trying to paint in and around this policy. We'll
Speaker 2: step in Anika Wills. Now Anika Wills is the Sports Minister.
Speaker 2: She's also the Age Care Minister. And didn't she think
Speaker 2: she was so special today prancing around in question time?
Speaker 2: Here she was trying to make it out like your
Speaker 2: average local hairdresser was going to use taxpayer funds to
Speaker 2: go off to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: According to the Collison's publicly defined parameters of their own policy,
Speaker 4: business could spand up to twenty thousand dollars of Elizabeth's
Speaker 4: own taxpayer funds to attend something like, for example, the
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, to lather themselves in buffalo wings and babyback ribs.
Speaker 4: Nodding along to Kendrick lamar.
Speaker 2: Plase, Please now, I know all of this is just
Speaker 2: about impress all the people behind her, or all of
Speaker 2: the people up in the press gallery, which is every
Speaker 2: time they look up, that's who they're trying to talk to,
Speaker 2: or the people in the public gallery because they've got
Speaker 2: a made up there.
Speaker 1: Look at how I shoved it into the libs.
Speaker 2: All right, Anika, let's have a chat about who's got
Speaker 2: the pretty life when it comes to sporting events. The
Speaker 2: average small business and small business owner makes seventy five
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year. You make four hundred and three
Speaker 2: thousand and sixty three dollars from the taxpayer. You were
Speaker 2: accused of bending the travel rules so you could pretend
Speaker 2: to have business in a place like Melbourne. But it
Speaker 2: just happened to be at the same time as the
Speaker 2: Melbourne Cup. Remember the photos that we have and have
Speaker 2: discussed in the past as you're mucking around in the
Speaker 2: bird cage, something that she did at last year's Melbourne
Speaker 2: Cup as well. And if she wants to talk about
Speaker 2: people who like going to sporting events at somebody else's expenses,
Speaker 2: have a.
Speaker 1: Look at this. Now.
Speaker 2: Yes, she's the Sports Minister and she's going to tell
Speaker 2: you that being the Sports Minister means she can do
Speaker 2: all of these things. She went to the cricket a
Speaker 2: lot this year over summer, she went to the PGA
Speaker 2: Championship last year, the NRL, the AFL, the Brownlow that live,
Speaker 2: the Formula one on a couple of days. She's often
Speaker 2: got tickets to bring people with her or in some
Speaker 2: cases as many as five.
Speaker 1: People with her.
Speaker 2: The sale GP tickets to Taylor Swift because that's part
Speaker 2: of the job. Lots of other ones with cricket and
Speaker 2: a league. And she was a guest of the Treasury
Speaker 2: wine estates of the Melbourne Cup last year, the Women's
Speaker 2: World Cup, where she, along with other Labor MPs, attended
Speaker 2: the Labor Party conference in Brisbane, flew down to Sydney
Speaker 2: for a game before flying back, all on taxpayer expense.
Speaker 2: So the high of her to walk into Parliament today
Speaker 2: and pretend that a tax policy that would mean small
Speaker 2: business will be applying the same tax standards as big business,
Speaker 2: i e. Ninety seven percent of the country's businesses would
Speaker 2: not be charged fringe benefit tax for entertaining key clients.
Speaker 2: How many businesses would she have any idea have got
Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars lying around to fly to the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl next year in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Four fifths. Bugger all.
Speaker 2: The average person who owns a small business minister barely
Speaker 2: pays themselves. And even when they do pay themselves, you
Speaker 2: earn how much more? Oh that's right, that much more,
Speaker 2: and you've received not one, but three pay rises in
Speaker 2: this term of parliament. Now, Anika Wells does consider herself
Speaker 2: to be a potential rising labor star, and god forbid
Speaker 2: your criticize her on social media. I've got quite a
Speaker 2: few people who live in her electorate who send me
Speaker 2: emails about how easily her team block constituents from social media. Well,
Speaker 2: she's not going to be able to block this video
Speaker 2: because of course her government wasn't able to censor the
Speaker 2: Internet last year. So spread this around her electorate of
Speaker 2: Lily that the lady on four hundred thousand dollars is
Speaker 2: yet again sneering at every small business that she will
Speaker 2: pretend to be on the side of between now and
Speaker 2: the next election. She will claim that these small businesses
Speaker 2: are so flushed with cash that if they want to,
Speaker 2: they could go to the super Bowl, when they barely
Speaker 2: have enough cash to go to the pub to watch
Speaker 2: it on television. But it wasn't her only moment of
Speaker 2: foot in mouth. Today Sam Kerr and what is playing
Speaker 2: out with her case in the United Kingdom, I'm pro
Speaker 2: cop so no surprise how I feel about that particular case.
Speaker 2: But as also the father of soccer mad Matilda's daughters,
Speaker 2: I understand the hero that is to kids. But just
Speaker 2: as male sporting stars have lost their chance to be
Speaker 2: captain or vice captain because of what they do off
Speaker 2: the field, I think the same will probably apply to
Speaker 2: Sam Kerr on No Know But Anika Wells who accepts
Speaker 2: how many tickets to go and watch the Matilda's play
Speaker 2: or jumping on and off the taxpayer funded jet to
Speaker 2: get there?
Speaker 1: She says, we're all with Sam.
Speaker 4: I would never seek to interfere or comment on a
Speaker 4: court trial process whilst it's in action, but I think
Speaker 4: Australia certainly has Sam certainly has Australia behind it.
Speaker 2: These people, right, they represent working class areas and they
Speaker 2: pretend to be you know, for the worker, for the
Speaker 2: normal person. Yet if God forbid, God forbid, the local
Speaker 2: person with the lawn mowing run doesn't get hit with
Speaker 2: fringe benefits tax when they go for schnitty. These people
Speaker 2: they deserve what I hope is coming their way at
Speaker 2: the election. But if they somehow are able to slide
Speaker 2: their way through to another three years of government, well
Speaker 2: they probably will try to see to the internet to
Speaker 2: stop what I've just said, making it any further than
Speaker 2: your television set. An interesting bit of study today about
Speaker 2: a very significant number of Australians and I know there's
Speaker 2: many of them watching us right now that really do
Speaker 2: it tough. And it's not just renters, but it's a
Speaker 2: specific type of renter. Now you know that I always
Speaker 2: talk about this because there is fewer than zero point
Speaker 2: seven percent of all properties in Australia that are currently
Speaker 2: available for rent. Are you looking for a tenant? This
Speaker 2: is with one and a bit million people being added
Speaker 2: by this government where they're all paid pretty penny and
Speaker 2: they don't have to live with any of its consequences,
Speaker 2: but they bring in more people so they can barely
Speaker 2: squeak a budget surplus. Well, retirees and particularly women is
Speaker 2: a very significant area of those that are struggling to
Speaker 2: pay their rent. Most older working Australians who rent do
Speaker 2: not have sufficient savings to keep paying rent in their retirement.
Speaker 2: More than half of all households as sixty five and
Speaker 2: older who rent report a total net financial worth of
Speaker 2: less than twenty five thousand dollars. How's that twenty five
Speaker 2: thousand dollars, So back to the less than one thousand.
Speaker 1: Dollars in the bank.
Speaker 2: Meantime, same people, same report, different spin though from the
Speaker 2: ABC it shows you hear about the number of people
Speaker 2: who are in pretty serious, pretty serious financial circumstances because
Speaker 2: they are still renting.
Speaker 1: This is after they have been working.
Speaker 2: Single women the biggest single men couples, then the homeowners
Speaker 2: with a mortgage. Of course, in terms of the financial stress,
Speaker 2: you can see where the pressure is on. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: they don't understand that because they've got their hands out
Speaker 2: for the free upgrades and the free flights are but
Speaker 2: they're still on the side of the worker.
Speaker 1: Please.
Speaker 2: As for cost of living and the overall issue, that
Speaker 2: will be one of the biggest at this election, that
Speaker 2: along with housing, is going to be front and center.
Speaker 2: We learned today that the average Australian family has forked
Speaker 2: out more than a one thousand dollars extra extra at
Speaker 2: the supermarket than they did the previous year before. The
Speaker 2: average izz he now spends two hundred and thirteen dollars
Speaker 2: on groceries a week.
Speaker 1: Jesus this person.
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's a fraction of what we spend in our house,
Speaker 2: equal to an eleven point five percent increase. This is
Speaker 2: compared to where we were twelve months ago. That of course,
Speaker 2: is worse than twelve months before and worse than twelve
Speaker 2: months before that. Overall, eleven hundred bucks extra more than
Speaker 2: a quarter of Australians twenty five percent. So the cost
Speaker 2: of groceries is one of the biggest worries they have
Speaker 2: when it comes to financial issues in the next couple
Speaker 2: of years. Unbelievable stuff. Now, let's also talk about other
Speaker 2: people's money and local council, not Citney Council will make
Speaker 2: a decision in the next couple of hours. I'll double
Speaker 2: check what it is about a mega increase in their rates.
Speaker 1: This is despite the fact.
Speaker 2: That they make millions and I mean millions of dollars
Speaker 2: out of parking fines. But there are plenty of councils
Speaker 2: that well, I don't think of that judicious with the
Speaker 2: spending of the rate payers money. Yet they are crying
Speaker 2: poor and they are saying that we need to increase
Speaker 2: the taxes on them. Seven hours on climate change and
Speaker 2: benefits of cycling. We're among the overseas visits that were
Speaker 2: taken by council staff and councilors. Last financial year, Sydney
Speaker 2: councils ran up a combined seven million.
Speaker 1: Dollars in travel overseas.
Speaker 2: The City of Sydney rate payers one hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: three thousand dollars, including twenty three thousand dollars on flights
Speaker 2: and accommodation for eight staff, not the councilors, the staff
Speaker 2: to go on overseas visits. Paramatta seventy one and a
Speaker 2: half thousand dollars for its counselors and its staff to,
Speaker 2: among other things, go to a library conference in the
Speaker 2: Netherlands or a six day study tour in London. You
Speaker 2: know the Internet exists, kids, You can get reports from
Speaker 2: how the systems are going. You don't have to go
Speaker 2: and see it with your own eyes. Camden and Blacktown
Speaker 2: they also have overseas travelers well, with millions of dollars.
Speaker 2: Back to the Northern Beaches Council that we've talked about
Speaker 2: over the recent weeks, here on the show. They of
Speaker 2: course are planning well. They have voted for a massive increase.
Speaker 2: Yet guess what they've had forty percent increase in the
Speaker 2: amount they spend on food and grog on themselves. A
Speaker 2: Sydney council proposing a forty percent rate rise that happened
Speaker 2: is splurging one hundred and forty thousand dollars on booze
Speaker 2: and food for official meetings. The Kringa Council spends twenty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars on a two night workshop up in the
Speaker 2: Blue Mountains of Sydney at the Hydro Majestic, where, among
Speaker 2: other things, they were going to have to leave their
Speaker 2: own council area to talk about how to respond to
Speaker 2: the government's force development push. They couldn't do it in
Speaker 2: their own council chambers, They couldn't do it at their
Speaker 2: own local restaurant. They couldn't rent a function room somewhere
Speaker 2: up and down the Pacific Highway. No, they've got to
Speaker 2: bager off to the Blue Mountains. Unbelievable. Will waste these
Speaker 2: and then the balls to turn around and say we're
Speaker 2: so skinned when you are not paying the press secretaries
Speaker 2: for these councils. One hundred thousand dollars when you are
Speaker 2: not flying the staff overseas to check out what a
Speaker 2: library looks like in the Netherlands.
Speaker 1: Then we'll believe you.
Speaker 2: When you actually take the millions of dollars in rates
Speaker 2: that you all get and fix the freaking potholes, then
Speaker 2: we can have a chat about the increase. But of
Speaker 2: course you'll just do it anyway. People will complain, and
Speaker 2: because people don't really care about who their counselors are,
Speaker 2: when it comes time to election, you'll be able to
Speaker 2: slither away back into office because I think I remember
Speaker 2: that person's face from the local paper. Disgraceful. So let's
Speaker 2: end on something happy though. The Philadelphia Eagles absolutely turned
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs inside out like a pair of
Speaker 2: socks today at the Super Bowl. I love the NFL
Speaker 2: and obviously this is its showcase event, and how good
Speaker 2: is this? An Australian did not just play but one
Speaker 2: as a part of the Philadelphia Eagles, and did not
Speaker 2: the Australian media love the Aussie win of the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: and they were all over the place covering things like
Speaker 2: his school in Western Sydney and the kids who were watching.
Speaker 5: So what do you think he's thinking, feeling, are going
Speaker 5: to be calm, nervous, excited.
Speaker 1: I think he's a bit of everything to us.
Speaker 3: By the day's happy days.
Speaker 1: One's there, Yeah, everyone's next supporting.
Speaker 6: How's Jordan playing so far? He's going all right.
Speaker 1: I mean the score says it ah, but we really
Speaker 1: need to say anything.
Speaker 2: But without doubt, the best Ossie angle on the Aussie
Speaker 2: playing in the team that won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: His dad, I fall off Joe and Shaul crab of him.
Speaker 1: Killer jacket, killer jacket. I love it.
Speaker 2: I love it all right now, as you know, we're
Speaker 2: coming to Bateman's Bay in a couple of weeks for
Speaker 2: our first ourtown of year. The following night we're going
Speaker 2: to do our first pub test and we're not waiting
Speaker 2: for the Prime Minister to call the election.
Speaker 1: We are into it.
Speaker 2: Which is the seat of Gilmour, one of the most
Speaker 2: marginal in the country in and around that Batman's Band
Speaker 2: South Coast area. If you would like to join us,
Speaker 2: and you are someone in the area who would like
Speaker 2: to ask a question of the candidates, send me an.
Speaker 1: Email right now.
Speaker 2: Pub test at skynews dot com dot au. If we
Speaker 2: see requests for thirty tickets. We know that is someone
Speaker 2: trying to rig the room. Okay, so we want the
Speaker 2: good people of Gilmour. Yes, you can double up if
Speaker 2: you're coming on the Sunday too, It's okay, relax. Two
Speaker 2: shows from that part of Australia. That one Monday, the
Speaker 2: twenty fifth, the first pub test where it's kind of
Speaker 2: politics in the pub but on the Telly and I
Speaker 2: love that part of what we do. You send the
Speaker 2: email at pub Test at skynews dot com dot au
Speaker 2: quick break back with more no sooks, no Lefties and
Speaker 2: a very special guest from the territory. Before we're done,
Speaker 2: I had good sis, no sooks, no left is James
Speaker 2: Morrow here kicking us as always on the US Report,
Speaker 2: doing his best and doing so on the wonderful outside
Speaker 2: his programming. Your reading of the Daily Telegraph and send
Speaker 2: in Matt Canavan. First place he drops into each and
Speaker 2: every week on his Round of Sky is here on
Speaker 2: pal Marie Live. And I do very much appreciate it,
Speaker 2: my dear friend. All right, let's talk about Trump and tariffs.
Speaker 2: All right, everyone's sitting down, everyone's sitting down. We're going
Speaker 2: to get an exemption. Okay, We're going to get an
Speaker 2: exemption because in the same way the relationship between Australia
Speaker 2: and the United States is at times irrelevant as to
Speaker 2: who the president, who the Prime minister is.
Speaker 1: The reality is is.
Speaker 2: That Trump made this announcement while he was on Air
Speaker 2: Force one speaking to American American reporters. Australia will get one, okay,
Speaker 2: whether it's the long way or the short way. There
Speaker 2: are plenty of people around him that aren't in government
Speaker 2: that are very pro Australia. And we just gave five
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars with the exchange rates and now eight
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars when it comes to orcus.
Speaker 1: So, James, am I a little too rosy in my thinking?
Speaker 1: Or is that where we're going to get?
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I think we do wind up somewhere around there.
Speaker 3: We also we need to sort of put the soul
Speaker 3: in perspective to the US doesn't make the top five
Speaker 3: of our steel export correct destination. So this is not
Speaker 3: the huge blow to the ustry. Yes, disappointing. I mean
Speaker 3: a couple of other points about this too. Timberlair has
Speaker 3: got a great column in Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph where he
Speaker 3: talks about how you know, why are people on the
Speaker 3: left so upset? Why is Malcolm Turvill upset? They've got
Speaker 3: what they want. They've got a carbon tax essentially on
Speaker 3: you know, the steel and almdium ministries, which they would
Speaker 3: have gotten you know, otherwise. But I think but there
Speaker 3: will be some sort of quid pro quote. There's never
Speaker 3: it was. There's an art of the deal here, so
Speaker 3: there's going to be something else. Now the question is
Speaker 3: whether or not the Prime Minister is sophisticated enough to
Speaker 3: see what that is and make that deal. I don't
Speaker 3: suspect that Albanezy and Trump are going to have a
Speaker 3: warm relationship like sure Morrison did with him, and you know,
Speaker 3: like other leaders like the Japanese Prime minister did in
Speaker 3: the four one does you know? So?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, this is the thing.
Speaker 2: I'm just not going to fall into the trap of, Look,
Speaker 2: we don't know how to phil about Karen Rott and
Speaker 2: Karen rod and all of these guys. It makes it
Speaker 2: all harder, right, But Australia as its fundamental and our
Speaker 2: proximity to the United States means we're not going to
Speaker 2: get the asterisk in the major announcement. It happens under
Speaker 2: a flood of other announcements in the next couple of days.
Speaker 2: That's my thoughts, Senator am I offered the theories, or
Speaker 2: is that probably what happens.
Speaker 5: Look, I hope you're right, and I hope you're right, Paul,
Speaker 5: I'm not so sure. I think we should prepare for
Speaker 5: the worst. It's always the wiser strategy in life. I mean,
Speaker 5: Donald Trump seems pretty committed this time, and maybe this
Speaker 5: time will be different than last. And as you point
Speaker 5: it out, we're not quite as strong a position as
Speaker 5: we were when Joe Hockey was there either. But look,
Speaker 5: I mean, going to James's point, not only has the
Speaker 5: Labor Party in the Greens and Malcolm Turnbull got the
Speaker 5: carbon tax they always wanted, we've already put a carbon
Speaker 5: tax on all of these facilities.
Speaker 6: So the steel.
Speaker 5: Mills in our country, the aluminium smelters, all faced labors
Speaker 5: carbon tax, which they call the safeguard mechanism.
Speaker 6: It's just a Normalian name for US carbon tax.
Speaker 5: So why don't we just take our internal TI tarff's
Speaker 5: off our own businesses? Why is there this meltdown when
Speaker 5: the US president puts effectively at tax on our own industries,
Speaker 5: And as James has pointed, out. They're not the biggest
Speaker 5: markets we face anyway. Yet we are turning around and
Speaker 5: putting our own internal tariffs on our own internal businesses
Speaker 5: and factories. Other countries don't do this, They're not putting
Speaker 5: carbon taxes on their businesses. Why are we weighing down
Speaker 5: and anchoring down our own businesses. If we're that worried
Speaker 5: about Trump's tariffs on our aminium and steel, let's get
Speaker 5: rid of the carbon tax on our aminium and steel too.
Speaker 2: What seems to be the last chapter of the long
Speaker 2: saga of the protesters who went to the house of
Speaker 2: the boss of Woodside over in Western Australia.
Speaker 1: None of them are going to be going to jail now,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: This is when the ABAC was tipped off, came with
Speaker 2: them filmed at all for all to see.
Speaker 1: And there's plenty of issues in and around that.
Speaker 2: But Matt, at some point, regardless of what you how
Speaker 2: holy your cause happens to be, how does somebody not
Speaker 2: even get like a weekend of weekend detention for going
Speaker 2: to somebody's house and terrorizing them.
Speaker 5: Look, I think that's a very good question, Paul, and
Speaker 5: I don't know the details of this case, but maybe
Speaker 5: the law is inadequate here because I think they've only
Speaker 5: been given fines of two and two and a half
Speaker 5: thousand dollars. It does not seem adequate for the crime
Speaker 5: that occurred here.
Speaker 6: I mean, we just.
Speaker 5: Passed the law last week that does have multi year
Speaker 5: penalties for people who graffiti swastikas or other hate symbols
Speaker 5: and intimidate people. Well, of course there's not much an
Speaker 5: act more intimidating and going to someone's house and their
Speaker 5: home like these people have. So if it's good enough
Speaker 5: for those crimes the hate symbols to carry with it
Speaker 5: a prison sentence, I think the same should happen here.
Speaker 6: The basic fact is that this is not free speech.
Speaker 5: You do not have the right to interfere with other
Speaker 5: people going about their day. You don't have a right
Speaker 5: to go to people's home and terrorize them. There needs
Speaker 5: to be tougher penalties to get these bars off past
Speaker 5: straits and stop trying to make these cheap and political points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean again, James, you know, I'd love seeing
Speaker 2: the tales and the rest of way more simpler and humane.
Speaker 1: Society and the safest society all the rest of it.
Speaker 1: Right the public square, I get it.
Speaker 2: We're all up for the people to say what they want,
Speaker 2: but the public square is not your driveway at your ass.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like you know, as with Matt, I'm
Speaker 3: not as familiar with this case and the real details
Speaker 3: and were they on the property or not, what were
Speaker 3: they doing where they say? But you know that said,
Speaker 3: you know, I also get a little lyric to oh, well,
Speaker 3: let's just pass more laws, because passing more laws doesn't
Speaker 3: actually do anything if you've got a judiciary that doesn't
Speaker 3: use the laws that are already available to them. You know,
Speaker 3: here in New South Wales we have theoretically very tough laws,
Speaker 3: very tough laws, Paul, about you know, protesting in such
Speaker 3: way that you are interrupting economic activity. And yet you
Speaker 3: have had over and over again, you've had the people
Speaker 3: who go and block the port of Newcastle Harbor, who
Speaker 3: go and do things where they hang off of Gurney's
Speaker 3: over you know, realize the stuff call trades and you know,
Speaker 3: the punishments have been very fad in the week in
Speaker 3: most cases, and you have these people who are serial protesters,
Speaker 3: and Paul, you know, I am a huge free speech guy.
Speaker 3: I am a First Amendment guy all the way, and
Speaker 3: I wish we had protections like that here. For our
Speaker 3: speech bore generally that said, you know these people who
Speaker 3: are not protesting, they're just vandalizing their committee. Economic vandalism,
Speaker 3: you know, that sort of thing has to be discouraged.
Speaker 2: Well, I get to block the Harbor Bridge because of
Speaker 2: my feelings, judge children, But the judges don't use the law.
Speaker 1: We don't need more laws.
Speaker 3: We need to use the laws that we've already got
Speaker 3: on the book.
Speaker 2: So Australia as miners, in their pre budget submission would
Speaker 2: like the treasure which would be a little smarter with
Speaker 2: the money and the billions of which that come out
Speaker 2: of the ground thanks to the hard work and the
Speaker 2: investment of the mining companies. Senator, it makes obvious sense
Speaker 2: that they would like a little better spending here. But
Speaker 2: are we starting to see a bit more confidence back
Speaker 2: into the mining sector, who previously used to sort of
Speaker 2: sit in the corner now turning around and saying, you
Speaker 2: know what, charmers, we actually are the reason you're in surplus. Well,
Speaker 2: that and a whole bunch of taxes on things like
Speaker 2: you know, booze and smokes. But we're actually going to
Speaker 2: rattle the tin here, because without us, you've got nothing.
Speaker 5: Look, I am sensing that, Paul, I think I suppose
Speaker 5: a lot in the industry have reached a tipping point
Speaker 5: to some degree. There were a lot of significant profits
Speaker 5: made on the back of the Ukraine War and the
Speaker 5: commodity prices that occurred after that. That has now, that
Speaker 5: has now come back in and what a lot of
Speaker 5: these money companies are left with is much much higher costs.
Speaker 5: It was just out of Cold Mine a few weeks ago,
Speaker 5: just before Christmas, and their costs had almost doubled in
Speaker 5: the space of the last six years. And that's just
Speaker 5: not sustainable. Of course, their energy costs are up, diesel
Speaker 5: costs are up, the red tape and approval costs are up,
Speaker 5: the new industrial relations laws, and we've just got to
Speaker 5: get to a stage here. We've got to stop putting
Speaker 5: barriers in the way of Australian business.
Speaker 6: It goes back to my point earlier.
Speaker 5: Let's stop all panicking about another country's president in Donald Trump,
Speaker 5: and actually start doing things that help our own country.
Speaker 5: We have so much natural resources, we have so much opportunity.
Speaker 5: We should not have to be reliant on another country
Speaker 5: for our prosperity. Let's take our own let's make our
Speaker 5: luck again. Right, We're a lucky country, but you've got
Speaker 5: to make your own luck. Let's start doing that again.
Speaker 2: Lots of conversations about where to save and how to
Speaker 2: save in the federal budget. And James, can we just
Speaker 2: take a second just to take people through some of
Speaker 2: the stupidity about Musk and Doge and all the rest
Speaker 2: of it. Right, Okay, here's the deal. The United States
Speaker 2: is thirty something trillion dollars in debt, thirty seven trillion
Speaker 2: dollars in debt. There clearly is a need to pull
Speaker 2: back any additional monies onto that. Okay, so At is
Speaker 2: heart and soul. That's the job that Musk has, right.
Speaker 2: Yet the freakout is the freak out. But isn't this
Speaker 2: what they were hired to do.
Speaker 1: It was what they were hired to do, you know.
Speaker 1: And we had a CBS poll.
Speaker 3: Out today which found that seventy percent of Americans say
Speaker 3: that Trump is executing on his promises, and he's got
Speaker 3: a fifty three forty seven approval rate overall, which is,
Speaker 3: you know, pretty good, especially for a guy with as
Speaker 3: much controversy around him as he is.
Speaker 1: And the media.
Speaker 3: And you know, the thing is, we have had all
Speaker 3: of this stuff exposed, and the crazy thing he is here.
Speaker 3: You know, every time there's something exposed, you know, they
Speaker 3: get more mad at the exposure. Yes, then the fact
Speaker 3: that the money is being wasted. They found, for example,
Speaker 3: hundreds and hundreds of social security efforts where benefits are
Speaker 3: being paid to people who were one hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: years old. Small amount of money overall, and yet it's
Speaker 3: like the first question isn't why weren't there ways to
Speaker 3: stop this?
Speaker 1: And a million.
Speaker 3: You know, and you've got that and again, you know
Speaker 3: we were talking about judges before, Paul, Well, you know
Speaker 3: you've got the same activist judge problem. You had to
Speaker 3: judge issue a temporary restraining order, say all Trump political
Speaker 3: appointees could not go into the treasury, including the Secretary
Speaker 3: of the Treasury.
Speaker 2: This is how insane it is right now, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it is. It is ridiculous. I've got thirty seconds though.
Speaker 2: Senator but Ross Kittens, writing today in the Nine Papers,
Speaker 2: he says, look, everyone loves the idea of cutting spending
Speaker 2: until it's the thing that you like government spending money on.
Speaker 2: Isn't that one of the central problems of all politics.
Speaker 5: I think things are shifting though, Paul. I've since I
Speaker 5: spoken to someone the other day and focus groups people
Speaker 5: are now saying that the governor's got to spend less money.
Speaker 6: I think people understand.
Speaker 5: People understand that over the past few years they've done
Speaker 5: it very tough and almost everyone in this country has
Speaker 5: had to tighten their own belts and they look it
Speaker 5: down at Canberra and are very perplexed why their own
Speaker 5: governor is not doing the same.
Speaker 6: So that's that I think is resonating right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, all right, and you know as again that
Speaker 2: sports minister banging on about small business and police pretending
Speaker 2: they're all preparing to run on for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the real world, my friend.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you to appreciate it, Senator, future senator,
Speaker 2: if you'd like to at any point in time, I'm good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you might be.
Speaker 6: Or it's got to come up with his US citizenship.
Speaker 1: Well it might be running against AC. It'll be a
Speaker 1: fun primary, all right, WHI the Republican? All right, quick
Speaker 1: break back with more.
Speaker 2: Leah Fanokio is an absolute star of Australian politics. She's
Speaker 2: a young, dynamic leader who is turning the territory around.
Speaker 2: Let's talk to her about the job ahead, but also
Speaker 2: about how women like her have gravitated to the right
Speaker 2: side of politics. Morna see, I couldn't be a bigger
Speaker 2: fan of this lady. She's the Chief Minister of the
Speaker 2: Northern Territory. Leah Fanokiaro joins us now from that beautiful
Speaker 2: part of Australia. Chief Minister, Hello, been first time since
Speaker 2: you took on the position, so firstly, congratulations, but secondly
Speaker 2: thanks for the chat house Darwin tonight.
Speaker 1: Where are you in the territory. It's good.
Speaker 7: I'm out in Palmerstan, which is where my allectriate is.
Speaker 7: But monsoon has finally arrived, so we're actually getting some rain,
Speaker 7: which is great to see. We were all a bit
Speaker 7: worried for a while there, but it should be a
Speaker 7: good one.
Speaker 1: All right, good stuff. I want to talk about a
Speaker 1: couple of things.
Speaker 2: I love your rockstar moment when last year a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of protesters are carrying on You're at an oil
Speaker 2: and gas a conference and you basically said bugger off,
Speaker 2: go back to Melbourne.
Speaker 1: I know how that played in every bar in Darwin.
Speaker 2: I know how that played when people saw you on
Speaker 2: the street note out after.
Speaker 1: But this is the reality.
Speaker 2: We've got to have people in leadership who know whether
Speaker 2: the threats are organic, whether the protests are local, whether
Speaker 2: they are real, or whether they are just people that
Speaker 2: are going on sort of you know, protest tourism.
Speaker 7: That's exactly right, Paul, And the territories in too fragile
Speaker 7: a position to waste any time. I'm not here to
Speaker 7: maintain the status quo or quite frankly, do anything that
Speaker 7: labor's done for the last eight years. And so we've
Speaker 7: got a mandate to deliver change. We've got an enormous debt,
Speaker 7: and we've got a lagging economy, and we don't deserve
Speaker 7: any of those titles. So my job is to get
Speaker 7: rid of that red tape, forge the territory ahead, and
Speaker 7: call out the activism and law fare that's been destroying
Speaker 7: the territory for far too long. That ends on my watch.
Speaker 2: So how does it work in a very practical sense?
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, one of the things that anyone who
Speaker 2: is able to sit in a high office like yours
Speaker 2: is that part of the job is you know, you're
Speaker 2: all powerful, and at times you don't have the power
Speaker 2: to wiveh the magic ones that you want. But of
Speaker 2: the power you have been able to exercise, how have
Speaker 2: you been able to push some of the roadblocks out
Speaker 2: of the way to help the territory.
Speaker 7: It's been fantastic, And today I launched our year ahead,
Speaker 7: which is going to be marked by action, certainty and security.
Speaker 7: So for example, starting one July, we're lifting our payroll
Speaker 7: tax free threshold from one point five million to two
Speaker 7: point five million and excluding apprentice and trainee wages, which
Speaker 7: is huge. You want to run a business, come here.
Speaker 7: We're starting our Territory Coordinator legislation this week, which is
Speaker 7: a game changer in how we're going to facilitate projects
Speaker 7: of significance.
Speaker 2: In the territory.
Speaker 7: We're also really excited today I announced that we're abolishing
Speaker 7: third party merits review from the Petroleum, the Water and
Speaker 7: the Planning Acts and that's got some of the environmentalists
Speaker 7: there's a little bit rough with their pool, but we're
Speaker 7: just going to continue to push through. We know it's
Speaker 7: in the best interest of the territory. And like I said,
Speaker 7: until we change the regulatory framework for the territory, we're
Speaker 7: going to keep going down This dark hole. And my
Speaker 7: job is to pull us up, move us forward, and
Speaker 7: deliver a territory where people can achieve their dreams and aspirations.
Speaker 2: What about Alice Springs. How do we help Alice Springs
Speaker 2: because we know the tough times that they've had and
Speaker 2: the tough times that haven't extended into these days.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it has been tough. I've been down there I
Speaker 7: think seven times now, and it's you know, it's starting
Speaker 7: the road to recovery. People in Alice, as you well know,
Speaker 7: are absolutely sick of it. They're traumatized by the experience
Speaker 7: they've been subjected to for too long. But we stood
Speaker 7: up some really key operation. I mean, there are five
Speaker 7: hundred more people in prison today than there were before
Speaker 7: the August election, and we stood up a fugitive task
Speaker 7: force that went and tracked down high risk, high harm
Speaker 7: offenders and we arrested over sixty in Alice Springs alone.
Speaker 7: So we've put in the hard yards, given our police
Speaker 7: stronger powers. We'll continue to back that town. And we've
Speaker 7: made some great infrastructure investment announcements at a really important
Speaker 7: community level, like a new multicultural hall, a new library,
Speaker 7: the Alice Springs Art Gallery, some great projects that mean
Speaker 7: a lot to the people on the ground, and we'll
Speaker 7: just continue to show Alice Springs we've got their back
Speaker 7: and we'll deliver. You know, our actions will speak louder
Speaker 7: than our words, and that's what that town needs right now,
Speaker 7: is action.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now there's another thing I want to ask, and it
Speaker 1: is a little bit more personal. So forgive me.
Speaker 2: You are a mum, You're forty years old, You're at
Speaker 2: peak life with plenty more life in front of you, right,
Speaker 2: and you're roaring right, just in a nampaging proprice. She's
Speaker 2: roaring too. What is it about the sheelers of the
Speaker 2: Northern Territory. You don't just see the light, but they
Speaker 2: take the bull by the horns and they just get
Speaker 2: on with it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well we It's called territory tough pole, and I've
Speaker 7: got a hat to prove it.
Speaker 1: So look, you know, when you grow up here.
Speaker 7: You have an extraordinary opportunity at life and everyone's treated
Speaker 7: equally and you can go and achieve your dreams. The
Speaker 7: territory has given me everything. I just had the most
Speaker 7: wonderful childhood growing up fishing and running around barefoot and
Speaker 7: getting ready for goose hunting season in the wet season,
Speaker 7: I mean just iconic stuff, camping outdoors, family values, and
Speaker 7: I think that's what's really important, is getting the territory
Speaker 7: back on track. You know, we've lost our way big time,
Speaker 7: and it's actually not that complicated. People want to raise
Speaker 7: their families how they want to. They don't want to
Speaker 7: be told what to think and when to think it.
Speaker 7: They don't want government in their laundroom telling them how
Speaker 7: to run their lives. My job, and I know we've
Speaker 7: hit success when people feel safe, when that we've created
Speaker 7: an environment where their families can achieve their dreams and aspirations.
Speaker 7: That's what a government should be looking to do, is
Speaker 7: setting up the environment for everyone to choose their path forward.
Speaker 7: And you know, I think you know what's drawn me
Speaker 7: to this is that reward for effort, the sense of
Speaker 7: personal responsibility and you know, we can all, we can
Speaker 7: all do great things for this world and for our families,
Speaker 7: and you've just got to put the hard work behind it.
Speaker 1: Well, you're a rockstar.
Speaker 2: That sounds you can hear from a long way away.
Speaker 2: Many people around the country just just punching the air.
Speaker 2: Thank goodness, people like yourself are in leadership again. Congratulations
Speaker 2: let's keep talking, but I wanted to take a couple
Speaker 2: of minutes to hear what you were doing, but also
Speaker 2: to say we got your back, mate, We got your
Speaker 2: back all of us layer.
Speaker 7: Thank you, Take care everyone.
Speaker 2: How good is she Leah fornookiaro there? She is the
Speaker 2: chief Minister of the ryal And Territory. I mean getting
Speaker 2: midle of labor and the territory is really difficult because
Speaker 2: once you've had a party that's there for a long
Speaker 2: period of time, like what Chruso Fooley has been able
Speaker 2: to do in Queensland, what hopefully others will do in
Speaker 2: other places. It's tough, all right, but what an example
Speaker 2: we keep being told about the Liberal Party and the
Speaker 2: profile of women all the rest of it. Remember I
Speaker 2: was talking about before about women thirty five fifty five,
Speaker 2: bang in that, bang in that an example of the
Speaker 2: types of people who've picked aside and are trying to
Speaker 2: get a result a Leah Fanuki aio and you sent
Speaker 2: an amputuper price both on the absolute front lines and
Speaker 2: big weapons, big weapons coming for the federal government at
Speaker 2: the upcoming election. That's our show tonight. Thank you very
Speaker 2: much for watching. None other than the Great Niger farrages
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