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Speaker 1: Oh hey there, thanks for joining us on this daily

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Speaker 1: podcast from Body and Soul got Healthyish of course, but

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Speaker 1: I know you knew that.

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Speaker 2: I hope you are having a really good day.

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Speaker 1: I am Felicity Harley and joining us on the pod

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Speaker 1: today is best selling author and podcaster Jordana Levine. Now,

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Speaker 1: she isn't a fan of junk food astrology.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what this is?

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Speaker 1: It's the stuff you consume on social media, So she

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Speaker 1: discusses how to use it as a teaser and fully

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Speaker 1: embrace astrology as more of a compass for life. She

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Speaker 1: has a new book out. It is called All Signs

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Speaker 1: Point to You. Now make sure listening to Extra Healthy Ish,

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Speaker 1: our other sister podcast where she shares how to use

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Speaker 1: astrology as almost guide rails for life. You can search

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Speaker 1: for that wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Jordana, welcome to Healthy Ish.

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 4: I'm well?

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Speaker 3: Thanks to having me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nice to have you back listener. As we were

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Speaker 1: working out it is about two years between chats and

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Speaker 1: between books.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations on your new one.

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Speaker 3: Oh thank you.

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Speaker 1: Now I want to talk about, well, how we can

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Speaker 1: unlock your potential, our potential with astrology. But it first

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Speaker 1: talked to us about this whole concept of junk food astrology.

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Speaker 2: It's fascinating.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, it's the astrology we're all aware of. It's

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Speaker 4: the astrology that exists in bite sized, scrumptuous pieces on

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Speaker 4: Instagram and TikTok, and it's definitely astrology. There's parts of

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Speaker 4: it that we can all relate to, but it's not

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Speaker 4: the whole story, and it doesn't give you the wisdom

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Speaker 4: and the teachings that I'm trying to convey in this book.

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Speaker 4: So I like the funness. I like the palatability.

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Speaker 3: Is that a word of it?

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Speaker 2: I like that, But.

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Speaker 4: There's so much more to it, and I'm really excited

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Speaker 4: for people to dive a little bit deeper while still

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Speaker 4: having fun.

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Speaker 2: It sucks you in, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: I just want to talk about this term for a

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Speaker 1: bit longer because I actually I really like it. And

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Speaker 1: when you're scrolling Instagram or TikTok and you see something

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Speaker 1: that applies to you, I mean, my star sign is

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Speaker 1: aries and I'm like, oh, yes, I'm going to have

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Speaker 1: a great week or I'm not going to.

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Speaker 2: Have a very good week. It does it just just

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Speaker 2: scripts you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it does. And I think, like even.

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Speaker 4: Further than the horoscopes of like, what is every single

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Speaker 4: areas on the planet going to experience this week.

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Speaker 3: It's more the qualities of the.

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Speaker 4: Signs where it's like, oh, I really see myself in

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Speaker 4: that there's parts of myself that really resonate with the

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Speaker 4: description of Ares or Virgo or whatever sign it might be.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's why it's so fun. If you feel.

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Speaker 4: Seen in your sign in those bland sized pieces, wait

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Speaker 4: until you dive deeper, because that's when it gets really

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Speaker 4: really cool.

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Speaker 1: So I see it as a bit of a teaser

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Speaker 1: and then go for the full shebang. Talk to us

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Speaker 1: about this whole shebang. Then, how can we consume astrology

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Speaker 1: to get that full lifeguarding experience.

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Speaker 4: Well, the thing with astrology is it's an incredible self

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Speaker 4: awareness piece when you look at it from the perspective

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Speaker 4: of your natal chart. So I think most people are

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Speaker 4: quite familiar with their sun sign that's where the sun

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Speaker 4: was at the moment of your birth. But there are

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Speaker 4: ten planets, plus a whole bunch of cosmic bodies and

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Speaker 4: points in a natal chart that can actually tell you

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Speaker 4: about different aspects of who you are and the different

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Speaker 4: areas of your life in which you may shine or

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Speaker 4: feel most comfortable or feel most challenged by it.

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Speaker 1: So how do we wrap a head around all this?

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Speaker 1: And actually, I suppose learn more. I mean, how have

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Speaker 1: you learned more over your journey in this space?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean I kind of grew up with

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Speaker 4: astrology being very much part of the vernacular. But then

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Speaker 4: when I was working freelance as a journalist, I had

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Speaker 3: The stummies are coming in there, done that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I decided to study astrology on the side.

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Speaker 4: And I've been doing that for the last you know,

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Speaker 4: And I had thought about an astrology book, but I

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Speaker 4: And also I felt like there was a bit of

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Speaker 4: do it in a way that hasn't been done before.

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Speaker 4: So what I've done really is written a personal development

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Speaker 4: book using the wisdom of astrology.

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Speaker 1: There's a bit of a hunger for astrology at the moment.

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Speaker 1: I feel particularly you know gen zs and are using

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Speaker 1: it a bit more, and I think actually write about

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Speaker 1: this in your book to guide their life choices.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can look you can use it to

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Speaker 4: guide your life choices. When we look at a chant,

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Speaker 4: we can sort of see where your strengths are. We

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Speaker 4: can see where some of the challenges might be for you.

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Speaker 4: We can also see like life purpose comic patterns, what

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Speaker 4: you can invite in if you look in the right places,

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Speaker 4: there's lots of clues. I sort of look at it

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Speaker 4: like a treasure map or a blueprint for your potential.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, there's ways that gen Z but everyone.

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Speaker 1: Else can also use can also use their natal chart

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Speaker 1: to really not only understand themselves better, understand the people

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Speaker 1: around them better. Now we are going to talk a

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Speaker 1: bit about the natal chat in Extra Healthyish, but you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So, your natal chat is basically a snapshot of

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Speaker 4: the solar system at the time of your birth. So,

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Speaker 4: like I said before, most people are familiar with their

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Speaker 4: time of your birth, but all those other planets hold

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, How have you used all this to unlock your

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Speaker 2: Give us some examples.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean I use it day to day,

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Speaker 4: But I've also just used my natal chart to really

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Speaker 1: Did you use it to think, Okay, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: one I'm going to do. Did it help the decision?

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Speaker 2: In that? I mean sort of.

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Speaker 4: but that's always up to the publisher and it's not

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I do use it.

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Speaker 4: I do use it for work, and I also use

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Speaker 4: it for creative periods when I am on a writing deadline.

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Speaker 4: There are certain times that are not so good for creating,

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Speaker 4: certain times that are better for reviewing and editing. So

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Speaker 4: I do try and use the planets in that way

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Speaker 4: and you do have deadlines to me, so I don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, that was very refreshing to hear,

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Speaker 1: because you know, some people think, oh, but this is

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Speaker 1: so woo woo, but it is. But you can also

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Speaker 1: use it to make you a better person for food potential,

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Speaker 1: But then you also have to keep you know, I

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Speaker 1: like the fact that you keep a bit of reality

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Speaker 3: Totally.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I am irritatingly a realist to some people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so don't worry.

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Speaker 4: I'm definitely not living by it completely. But I'm like,

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Speaker 4: if there's energy there that I can use to my advantage,

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Speaker 4: why not use it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh one hundred. Thank you for coming on healthy Ish.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: If you feel like you need to take that addiction

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Speaker 1: to junk food astrology that you may have and use

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Speaker 1: it for a full.

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Speaker 2: Life guiding experience.

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Speaker 1: You can through Jodana's new book. It is called All

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Speaker 1: Signs Point to You and it is out now. If

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