1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Two days after the Mushroom Lunch and lean gather, a 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: local senior constable was sent on a job to Aaron 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: Patterson's home. He was there to do a welfare check 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: on her. She was the cook of the Beef Wellington mill. 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: Her home was deserted, or at least that's what it 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: looked like to the cop. He stopped at the gate 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: and made a call to get an access code. He 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: was looking for something. Guided by Aaron at the other 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: end of the phone, he started searching. He had gloves 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: on two pairs. His search took him to a bin 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: with a red lid that sat outside the house. Inside 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: that bin, inside a Woolworth's bag, he found it some 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: samples of what he described as tainted food. It was 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: what was left of a beef Wellington. I'm Brooke Greebert 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: Craig and this is the Mushroom Cook. So it's day eight, Laura. 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: I can't believe it's Thursday. This week has gone very fast. 17 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: I know we're almost at the end of week two. Indeed, 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: what you heard at the top of the episode was 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: a description of a local police officer fetching the leftovers 20 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,919 Speaker 1: of the Beef Wellington from Aaron's house. 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: He gave evidence today in court. His name was Adrian 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: Martinez Villalobos and I'm annunciation thank you. I'm relieved I 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: got through that one. He told the jury today that 24 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: he attended Aaron's property after that triple zero call from 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: doctor Chris Webster which we spoke about yesterday. He arrived 26 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: at the house but no one appeared to be home, 27 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: so he rang doctor Webster back to get an update, 28 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: and it was at that point that he found out 29 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: that Aaron had returned to lean Gatha Hospital. But as 30 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: we heard yesterday, while doctor Webster had the police officer 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: on the phone, he thought he should ask him to 32 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: have a look around to see if he could find 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: any of the leftover beef Wellington specifically. 34 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: In court, the police officer said that he was asked 35 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: to find any tainted food. 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 2: And as you described Brook, he double gloved and needed 37 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: some information from erin which we heard in court she 38 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: was happy to provide. He described her as being quite 39 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: cooperative over the phone and he was able to gain 40 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: access into her property to search one of her waistbins. 41 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: So he said in court today that he didn't actually 42 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: need to go inside her house because he found the 43 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: leftovers in a bin on the outside of. 44 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 2: Her house, and he described sifting through the bin and 45 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: finding the bag that Erin had described. She had told 46 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: him that a brown paper Woolworth's bag was most likely 47 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: the one that would contain the leftovers, and once he 48 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: found a bag that matched that description, he fished it 49 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: out and he noted to the court that it was 50 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: actually seeping a little bit and had to find another 51 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: bag so he could pop it in the police van. 52 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: He then transported those leftovers to lean Gatha Hospital where 53 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: the bag was taken into the urgent care department. 54 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: And yesterday we touched on the evidence of doctor Veronica 55 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 2: Foot who then retrieved that bag and took photos of 56 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: the beef Wellington for the doctors at Monash Medical Center. 57 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: And Laura, where did that bag of leftovers end up? 58 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: We learned a little bit more about that today Paramedic 59 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: Alan Spencer, she gave evidence about transferring Erin from lean 60 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: Gatha Hospital to Monash Medical Center and in her evidence 61 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: she explained how when they were getting her ready for transfer, 62 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: her and her colleague were also handed this brown Woolworths 63 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: bag with the leftover beef Wellington, so it could be 64 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: brought into Melbourne to Monash Medical Center for testing. 65 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: And did she say anything about Aaron. 66 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: She was asked a few questions about how Aaron presented 67 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: during this trip. She said the journey from lean Gatha 68 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: to Monash Medical Center was about an hour and forty minutes. 69 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: She asked if at any point in that journey Aaron 70 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: asked them to pull over because she needed to use 71 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: the bathroom, and she said that didn't happen. 72 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: Aaron complained about feeling nauseous, and she also complained about 73 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: having a headache. 74 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: And they wanted to give her panadol, but they needed 75 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: to check first whether or not that was a smart 76 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: idea given she was already starting to receive some treatment 77 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: for suspected mushroom poisoning. They rang the poisons hotline and 78 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: they suggested fentanyl instead, so Miss Spencer told the court 79 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: they gave her some fentanyl and then described the rest 80 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: of their journey as non eventful. When asked how Erin 81 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: was during the journey, she said that she was fairly 82 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: calm and nonchalant. 83 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: She also said that Aaron was quite chatty throughout the trip. Now, Laura, 84 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: I think it's a good time to talk about the 85 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: evidence that Aaron Patterson's daughter gave today in court. 86 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: I think I'll start off by noting that while she 87 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: did give evidence today in court, she actually wasn't there 88 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: in person. So when children give evidence in trials, it 89 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: is it's fairly common for their evidence to be pre 90 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: recorded so they don't need to be there in person 91 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: and subjected to cross examination by the defense. Erin's daughter's 92 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: evidence was recorded back in August twenty twenty three, so 93 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: only a month after the lunch, and that was played 94 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: today in front of the jury, and things did become emotional. 95 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: Now, that was a thirty three minute video that we 96 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: saw in court today. How was Erin throughout it? 97 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: When the video started to play, she did become emotional. 98 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: She has a screen in front of her where she 99 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: can watch the footage, and when her daughter popped up 100 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: on the screen, she did become quite tearful. She did 101 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: reach for a tissue at one stage and clutch that. 102 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: Throughout the recording, her daughter's evidence got underway with her 103 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: simply being asked by the interviewer for her name, and 104 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: when she said the name to the interviewer, you could 105 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: see Erin malving her daughter's name from the dock. 106 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,039 Speaker 1: At the start of the interview Eron's daughter was asked 107 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: to describe what happened at the lunch, and she simply replied, 108 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't there, so I don't know what happened. 109 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: But while she said she wasn't there, the interviewer did 110 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: ask her some questions about the things that happened both 111 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: before and after. She was asked whether she was told 112 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: about the lunch in advance, and she said her mum 113 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: told her about it the day before, and she said 114 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: that it was her understanding that the guests would come 115 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: over so they could talk about adult stuff. She was 116 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: then asked if she remembered what they ate for lunch, 117 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: and she said she didn't know what it was called, 118 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: but she recalled seeing it in the oven that morning 119 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: and saying it involved some sort of meat. She described 120 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: going to the movies that Saturday afternoon, and then after 121 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: that she saw her dad, and then by the evening 122 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: she was back at home at her mum's. 123 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: In the interview, Aaron's daughter was asked about Aaron's sickness 124 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: the morning after the lunch. This is what she said. 125 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: It's her words, but not her voice. 126 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 3: She just needed to go to the toilet a lot, 127 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: and she felt seek in her gut. 128 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: Did she tell you she wasn't feeling well? 129 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: Yes? 130 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 4: And what did she tell you? 131 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: She said that she had diarrhea and her tummy was sore. 132 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 4: Okay, she had diarrhea and her tummy was sore. Did 133 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 4: she tell you she vomited or anything like that. 134 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: I don't think she told me. 135 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 4: Did you see her going to the toilet a lot? 136 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 4: How many times do you think she went to the toilet? 137 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: I saw her go like ten times. 138 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 4: Ten times, okay? And was that in the morning? 139 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: Was it that was. 140 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: In the morning through to the afternoon. 141 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: She said that they didn't go to church that day 142 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: because her mum wasn't feeling well, and then talked about 143 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: having the leftovers. She mentioned remembering eating steak, mashed potato, 144 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: and green beans, and she also said that they played 145 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: Monopoly on the Sunday. 146 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: And Laura, the interviewer also asked about the plates at 147 00:07:59,240 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: Aaron's home. 148 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 4: Yes. 149 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: She was asked to describe the plates at her mum's home, 150 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: and at first she just said they were round plates. 151 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: The interviewer prompted her further and she said there was 152 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: a black and red plate and some white ones, before 153 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: saying I think that's all the colors we have, just 154 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: to remind our listeners. Ian, the only guest to survive 155 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: the meal, gave evidence earlier this week about the lunch 156 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: and said he remembers the guests eating their meals off 157 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: gray plates while Aaron ate her serve off an orange 158 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: tan plate. 159 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: And we'll hear more of Aaron's daughter's evidence tomorrow in court. 160 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: That's right. So who else spoke in court today? We 161 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 2: heard from a number of medical witnesses. We've heard from 162 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: quite a few so far in this trial. We had 163 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 2: a nurse called Cindy Munro take to the witness box 164 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 2: today and she treated both Heather and Ian when they 165 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: arrived at Lee and Gath Hospital and then later on 166 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: also treated Erin when she represented. But she was asked 167 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: today to describe Erin when she was treating her and 168 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: how she appeared, and she said that she did not 169 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: believe she looked as unwell as Heather and Ian did. 170 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: She said she recalled Ian being so unwell that he 171 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: could barely lift his head off his pillow, and said 172 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: Heather was quite unsteady on her feet, but said in comparison, 173 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: Aaron was sitting up in her bed and didn't look 174 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: unwell to her. 175 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: Miss Munroe also said that initially Aaron did not want 176 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: any medical intervention and Aaron said I don't want any 177 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: of this multiple times. 178 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: By the end of Miss Monroe's evidence, she did say, though, 179 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: that Aaron agreed to treatment before she was transferred to 180 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 2: Monash Medical Center. 181 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: After Aaron was brought to Monash Medical Center by the 182 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: paramedic that we heard from earlier, what happened. 183 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: Tanya Patterson, who is the wife of Matthew Patterson, So 184 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: stay with me here, guys. Who is so Jimond's brother, 185 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: Simon being Erin's estranged husband, I think we got that. 186 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: She gave evidence in court today about the conversations she 187 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: had with Erin when she was visiting, and one of 188 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: the things she said was that Aaron asked how the 189 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: lunch guests were. But Tanya said she had had a 190 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: discussion with her husband previously about not wanting to tell 191 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: Erin too much because they wanted to leave that up 192 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: to her husband Simon. So all Tanya said she told 193 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: Erin was that they were going downhill, but that was 194 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: all the information she really had. 195 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: And she also mentioned something about cruises, didn't she. 196 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 2: That's right. She said she had recently been on a 197 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 2: cruise and Erin was interested in taking her children on one, 198 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: so they had a conversation about that as well. So 199 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: that's a wrap for today. Was there anything else that 200 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: we missed? Yes, there was something that the jury heard 201 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: at the start of the day that I will mention, 202 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: just as Christopher Beale, who is the judge presiding over 203 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: this case, he told them that there was some work 204 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: happening in the background between both the prosecution and the 205 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,599 Speaker 2: defense that was speeding things along, and he said to 206 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: the jurors that he expects the case to conclude earlier 207 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: than he initially thought. 208 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: So that means the trial will be done before the 209 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: sixth week mark. 210 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: Well maybe, but we'll definitely have to wait and see. 211 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: Thanks Laura, but rest assured, until the trial is over, 212 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: we will be here every day giving you new podcast episodes. 213 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: So for all the latest on this case, go to 214 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: the mushroomcook dot com dot au