1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: In fact, doesn't get the juices flowing. Nothing will. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 2: Welcome to all three to sixty rugby league from every angle, 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: brought to you by a regame joining me again the 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: great Gordon Tallas. Both Dan Ganaine and Dave Riccio sold 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: our crowd Sunday a record ratings. 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 3: Could this be the biggest pre Limb of all time? 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 4: Oh well, I think on Sunday and Brisbane that game. 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 4: It's the most I've been asked for tickets in the history, 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 4: even more than State of Origin from people just Texans. 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 4: So it's going to be huge. You've got Brisbane. It's 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 4: a Grand Final replay from twenty three. It's sold out, 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 4: so fifty whatever it is, fifty two five hundred people 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 4: and they probably could have sold it out twice. 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 5: And that's how big that game is. And Amy Parks 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 5: the same. 16 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: How big is this game game? I don't want to 17 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: overblow it. It might be the game of the century. 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: I think of it pre Limb, some court daylight, twenty 19 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: eight degrees, revenge, redemption versus the Dynasty. There's nothing more 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: you can add to this game. The personalities Penroth and 21 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: now back to their best's questions over Brisbane with the reshuffling, 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: but they've been dead good. 23 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 5: Reece. 24 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: Well there is nothing more. The only thing missing browth. 25 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: It's not the Grand Final. Yeah, but I think it 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: will break every ratings record there is when it comes 27 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: to this game. 28 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: It's I guess we have hyped this, but with good reason. 29 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: Sunday afternoon footy boys, how good? 30 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 6: And semi finals Sunday afternoon footy and you know the 31 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 6: NRL have They've been kicked in the teeth a bit 32 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 6: as far as turnaround times into the Grand Final Friday 33 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 6: night compared to Sunday. 34 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 3: But this one on Sunday should be an absolute cracker. 35 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: You mentioned the Grand Final in twenty twenty three. 36 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: How much will the ghosts of that Grand Final be 37 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: driving the Brisbane Broncos to win this one against the Panthers. 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 4: You would think that they've sorted it and dealt with it, 39 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 4: but it's how they start. If they lose, I'll say 40 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 4: the ghost bet them. But if they win, the monkeys 41 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 4: off there. 42 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: These are the papers from that day three years ago. 43 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 5: Well, they had it one. 44 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 4: It was a bit like the Raiders down there the 45 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 4: other week, right, So they'd won it and then they 46 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 4: lost it. So are they thinking about it, I'd say no, 47 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: do we keep on bringing it up? Absolutely? 48 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 6: God, I'd be disappointed if it still wasn't burning inside 49 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 6: them that you don't get these chances too often, as 50 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 6: we've seen with the Broncos, they have had to go 51 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 6: through so much heartache to get back to this point 52 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 6: in time. I would be disappointed if back at the 53 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 6: back of walsh Man Reno's mind during. 54 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 5: It's in the back of the head breath. 55 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, whether they actually thinking about it or subconsciously. 56 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: It's there. 57 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: When if they beat the Panthers they walk off and 58 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: they they extra satisfied the exercise, it is there and 59 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: it will be there for the rest of their lives. 60 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: You cannot erase the memory of this night. Whether they 61 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: win or lose, even on the weekend against Penrith, this 62 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: will could haunt them forever. But win against Penrith, winning 63 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: the GF the week after it does erase this. 64 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: Our colleague James Graham has said for a year they 65 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: were in mourning all of twenty twenty four, such was 66 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: the devastation of this loss. And it's hard to argue 67 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: with that's given how far they sunk and then the 68 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: fact that they've risen this year. I wonder, though you 69 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: talk about the ghost of twenty twenty three, that game 70 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: is two years ago. The ghosts of Magic Ground this 71 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: year because Penrith smashed him. Remember Penrith were really struggling, 72 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: but they turned up Marquee game. Penrith, Penrith need an occasion. 73 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: Now they've got to that point. Your Broncos were like this, 74 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: you need something to rev up, and Magic Ground they 75 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: came out and thump them. 76 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 4: Well, we saw it on Sunday. Penrith surprised me a 77 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 4: little bit because they have been flat, they have been dead. 78 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 4: They will come and last the round twelve I didn't 79 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: really know, but the level they played it, I went, well, 80 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: they are champions, right, and now they've got to go 81 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 4: up there Sunday with a side full of cops. 82 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: I think we all expected them to go to another 83 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: level final time, but not like about first forty minutes 84 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: last week. 85 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: Now Ben has no problem being shifted into the middle. 86 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: If that means Ezra Man can cause some damage against 87 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: the Panthers. 88 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:12,839 Speaker 5: No, I think it'll be fine, mate. 89 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 7: It's you're bringing in Reno's play a three hundred games, 90 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 7: very experienced leads us around it does allow kicking, so 91 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 7: it has a half. I still want to play my 92 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 7: game and keep the same role, and then when I 93 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 7: go into the middle, it's a it's a position that 94 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 7: I'm definitely used to it. He's an excell runner of 95 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 7: the ball as he knows the game really well and 96 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 7: could probably be a bit of an X factor for us, 97 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 7: you know, bring some energy off the bench. So if 98 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 7: he's on his game that, yeah, I think he's you know, 99 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 7: he can come out and really help us in that area. 100 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm absolutely loving he says ra Man back, and 101 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: I think he's got so much X factor. 102 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: He's such a dangerous player and if he's fit, he 103 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: should be in the team any years he's coming off 104 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,679 Speaker 2: the bench. Now you've got some day doubts over this, Dave, 105 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: do you know something that I don't know? 106 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 3: No, No, there's none of that going on, Brake. 107 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 6: I just feel as though to your point, this guy 108 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 6: was a match winner. 109 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: He's a game breaker. We saw his impact on. 110 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 6: The ground only a couple of years ago. If he's fit, 111 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 6: isn't in the starting team when we picked. When we 112 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 6: see players picked on the bench as fourteen's, it's as 113 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 6: a role with less minutes. It's to provide impact from 114 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 6: the bench. It's a utility role, so that there will 115 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 6: be a time throughout this match that we're waiting for 116 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 6: Ezra to get onto the fee. 117 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 5: But he will come on. You think that ben huntle 118 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 5: go to nine, wouldn't you? 119 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 3: You would think so potentially. 120 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 5: Because that's what Dog said last night. It's like he might. 121 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: This is a prelim Gordon waiting for Avantes is that 122 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: they've got such an experienced bind. 123 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: They've got Reese Walsh at the back who is so lethal. 124 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: They can pick and choose when they use Ezra. They 125 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: might need to use him early, you know, if they 126 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: don't get off to a good start or they need 127 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: points early, they may be able to hold him back 128 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: and and and execute him and push him into the 129 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: game in the second half. 130 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: You know. 131 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: But you know you don't have a loaded gun like 132 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: him and not shoot it. 133 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 3: Yes, that's my point. That is my point. He's going 134 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: to get so he's going to be sure out of 135 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: his can I. 136 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 6: Get I know who's coming onto the field. So it's 137 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 6: a hamstring that cost him six weeks. So he's coming 138 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 6: back after six weeks out, So there's nothing tentative about that. 139 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: Look, there's nothing I have and coming off the bench 140 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: is probably the right thing to do, you know, because 141 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: you can monitor it to a degree, usually only if 142 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: you have to. 143 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 3: But if he wants to be right for the Grand Final, 144 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 3: it is do or die. 145 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: They need to win and it could be at the 146 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: expense of him doing the injury again or making it 147 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: worse for a Grand Final day. But this is the 148 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: big hurdle they got to get through against the best 149 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: team in the comp. 150 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: But what if it works right? 151 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: What if Brisbane go with their normal plan, which is 152 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: the starting hooker plays fifty minutes right now all season 153 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: or most of the season. Billy Walters has been dynamite 154 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: coming on for the last half hour, so obviously been 155 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: Hunt goes into that role. 156 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: Thirty minutes of. 157 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: Ezra Man running at tiring Penrith players on a twenty 158 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: eight degree Sunday afternoon. If it works, you imagine that 159 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: game's twelve all and Ezra Man comes into the game. 160 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: That's a weapon. 161 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, what else would you do? Just quickly I'm starting, 162 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 6: it starts. I think I think he's that dynamic. 163 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: Your issue is more you'd started more, so, why we 164 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: hold he's insurance Adam Reynolds and like they haven't played 165 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: for six weeks. 166 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 4: Ham strings you never know youself. Adam Reynolds pulls a hamstring, 167 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 4: Ben Hunt goes to seven. He comes in, sport spoils luxury. 168 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 3: You mentioned Adam Reynolds. 169 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: Can you slop back into this team without upsetting what 170 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: they have got going on at the moment? 171 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: Firstly, I'll stay. I think you can, and I've said 172 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: that on the show. How do you guys see it? 173 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 6: Well, Brak, I know you're confident about that, and I 174 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 6: get it. Adam's a class player. But you have seen 175 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 6: an elevation in Rhys Walsh's game as a byproduct of 176 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 6: the more responsibility and the more touches he's had to 177 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 6: play in this climb towards the premiership. 178 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: And so therefore, how can that. 179 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 6: Be possible with Reno coming back in Like Reynolds, he's 180 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 6: the conductor, he's the guy. 181 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: It can be possible. I mean, I don't disagree. 182 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: He's gone to another level since Adam hasn't been there. 183 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: There's no denying that. You watch the games, it's there 184 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: for everyone to see. I just think his experience is 185 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: class and he's poise in the way that he does play. 186 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: I think that he'll be fine and he'll give him 187 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 2: the ball at the right times in the right spots 188 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: on the field. 189 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: Well, the Hunt Reynolds combination hasn't exactly been dynamic and 190 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: that I think they were five and five to start 191 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: the season when they were. 192 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 3: Together, and then Azra Man came back. 193 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: And Reynolds is on hiding nothing here because if they win, 194 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: they're just going to keep on the run and probably 195 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: Ruch Walsh's going to start. But if they get bid, 196 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: he's probably going to cop some of the blame here. 197 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: If Walsh doesn't get enough ball that comes with the 198 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: jump of that. I understand that, and I understand that, 199 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: but you would think his role does his role change 200 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: in that given what's happened in the last five weeks, 201 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: he's got more responsibility to make sure whenever Reese wants 202 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: that ball he gets there and is still it. 203 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 3: Again looking for it, because that's why he's been so good. 204 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: He's just been on the ball, energetic both sides of 205 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 2: the rock, swinging left, right, you name it. 206 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: He's still got to do that now. 207 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 2: Bulldog Richie has started another uproar yet again, it's to 208 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: do with the Panthers. 209 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: And he's had a good year Bulldogstairs, he's had a 210 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: great I think he's m mediate. 211 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 5: No rookie, so I just got. 212 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: The evaded on my rookie of the y thirty years ago. 213 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: But he has fired the debate up about Ivan Cleary. 214 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: If he wins five straight, is he the greatest coach 215 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: of all time? 216 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: Well, it's it's a fun debate because there's no answer. 217 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: You can look at all the I watched the show and. 218 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: Have an opinion. Buzz, I mean by normally race can 219 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: my opinion be? There is no right answer. 220 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: Jack Gibson went to had one of the greatest sides 221 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: ever assembled at East and they had two extraordinary years. 222 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: PARAMOUNTA couldn't win a comp and then he got them 223 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: over the line and once they got going, they couldn't stop. 224 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: Craig Bellamy twenty years, What do you want twenty years 225 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: of consistency. That's Craig Bellamy, Wayne Bennett greatness had a 226 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: fair team, but they all had pretty fair teams. 227 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 3: I don't know what the correct answer is. Okay, sorry, no, 228 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 3: I'm with hey b I'm with them. I agree that's 229 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: the advantage of being in this season. The question, folks, 230 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: he was great. 231 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 6: The point is is the long jetty of longevity of 232 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 6: Craig Bellamy over twenty years, the consistency of that Melbourne 233 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 6: storm machine. 234 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: And that's that's nothing to understate what the pen. 235 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: It is the greatest achievement of any of those fours. 236 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he's the best. It is the greatest achievement. 237 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: No one could win back to back comps on till 238 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: the Roosters a few years ago, spot on, And you 239 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: know something, can I rightly talk about four in a row? 240 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: And I think it's been adequately celebrated because we all 241 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: understood they've won fourteen straight finals, Like can you think 242 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: about think about that, that's more than half a season 243 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: against top eight teams the whole way. 244 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's huge. 245 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: They have won fourteen straight with thirty seven different players. 246 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: Only four players have played all fourteen. But the turnover, 247 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: which has been spoken about. 248 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 5: Fair town over a fair replacement. 249 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I understare, Gordy, but that's that's unbo seven players. 250 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 4: I want saying that they're not. I just think it's 251 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 4: unfair when they don't play it. And you like in basketball, 252 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 4: Jordan or Lebron or whatever. They don't play against each other, 253 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 4: so I think it is really hard and when you go, 254 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: you know who's better, is it Andrew Johns or this? 255 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 4: I think it is unfair on the guys that went 256 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 4: through in the past, and it's unfair on the guys 257 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 4: in the future, like I really do. 258 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: All right, Sharks are on the plane in Melbourne and 259 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 2: Nico him to address the media from Sydney Airport a 260 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: short time we got. 261 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 8: You know, we deserve to be here. We wouldn't be 262 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 8: here if we didn't know that the respects. That's all 263 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 8: other people's opinions. 264 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 5: Obviously. 265 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 8: We've probably used that a little bit in that first 266 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 8: final with motivation, but at the moment, I just want 267 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 8: to get the job done for the team. And you know, 268 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 8: if someone this is your family, I think anyone would 269 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 8: go out of their way to say something and speak 270 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 8: up about it. And the Sharks is my family and 271 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 8: I take things personally when people try and diss my family. 272 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 8: And maybe I've just had a little bit enough of 273 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 8: it over the last few years with people disrespecting the Sharks, 274 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 8: and yeah, I'll fight for the Sharks until I go, 275 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 8: until I stopped wearing these jerseys. 276 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: Okay, interesting take there from Nikohwans very entertaining. I'm finding 277 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: these press conferences lately. 278 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 3: Dissing the family. 279 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: I wasn't sure where that was here, but then we 280 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: got there eventually, and okay, I'm still a bit perplexed, 281 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: b White. But what I liked about it was that 282 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: they did use the disrespect for that file on the 283 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: weekend because no one has really I wouldn't say no one, 284 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: but majority of people haven't shown them any respect. And 285 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 2: I love that, love the fact that they galvanize the 286 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: news that as motivation to win against the Raiders. I 287 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: didn't think they would use it this week because everyone 288 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 2: is respecting them now. Everyone now is saying they are 289 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: genuine title contenders. They're not the favorites, but they have 290 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: they have a damn good chance of winning the competition 291 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 2: because of how much they have improved. But again, you 292 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: listen to Nico and you know he still holds things 293 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 2: from the past. You know, it's clear dissing his family, 294 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: which his family. Now I've worked out, he's the canal Sharks. 295 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:43,599 Speaker 2: Do how do we take this? 296 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: I don't even know how to respond. 297 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 6: I think I think they are genuinely using the chip 298 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 6: on the shoulder in relation to lack of respect. 299 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: The playing group. And I was interesting. 300 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 6: I was listening to Mattie John's talk about how ultimately 301 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 6: the Sharks are a bunch of nice guys, right, that's 302 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 6: how we've seen Sharks for so long. Nice nice bunch 303 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 6: of of their coach, exactly extension of their coach. However, 304 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 6: Mattie said this, in the past four weeks, they've shifted 305 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 6: their personality. Yes, and they've become the you don't respect us, 306 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 6: We've got to chip on our shoulder about that. 307 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 3: And you can see it in their game. 308 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 6: They're playing with ridiculous resilience on their line defensively, it's 309 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 6: showing in their football the way they'd win games with 310 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 6: less possession than their opposition in both semis and I 311 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 6: think that's it's a shifting. 312 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: Personality that's helping their course. 313 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: They've needed because they've been so we've said it all, 314 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: they've been so similar every year whatever, and they've had 315 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: similar results because of it. Even though they've been so 316 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: consistent and you know, of competed at a high level 317 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: now for a number of years. 318 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 4: They shift to that little bit of variance, don't we 319 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 4: just respect like the theme. You know how you saw Penuthen. 320 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 4: You know they've been reading about a samurai. It's this 321 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 4: and Nathan's ol samurai and you go that we've got 322 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 4: a chip on his shoulder. 323 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 5: Whatever it is, right, and if that's their. 324 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 4: Theme for this final series and they don't want to 325 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: be mister nice guy anymore and Nick go and all 326 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 4: those guys. They do look like a really nice community byside, 327 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 4: but they've got to get a bit among them about them. 328 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: Two things. 329 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: Firstly, I'm pleasantly surprised how much respect they've been given 330 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: this week. I really thought people are going to come 331 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: out in the media and say that was Canberra's bubble adverse. 332 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: Lone ranger there, but really it hasn't met people have given. 333 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: You think they can win the camp. 334 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: They can certainly beat Melbourney you want to they can 335 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: beat Melbourne win the comp, that's well, sure, they. 336 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 6: Can beat Brisbane the last one of the last four teams. 337 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 6: They can win the comp. 338 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: I just can I make this from the Sharks fan, 339 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: I'm not sure they've been disrespected. They should be as 340 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: aggrieved about the disrespect as much as they should. 341 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 4: Gordy's right, you've got the respect deserving game stopped talking 342 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 4: about it. 343 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: I think the storyline. 344 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 6: Every team has a storyline that drives them through finals campaign. 345 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 3: And this is what's pushing them. 346 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 6: I think it's working for them, and you can see 347 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 6: them the way they're playing the fight for each other, 348 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 6: super resilient. 349 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: It's all about storylines and the one that's been around 350 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: for a long time is their halves, right and Nicko 351 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: Hines especially him. Now you're in the lab today and 352 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: you have you think the stability they've had in their spine, Blake, Brailey, 353 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: you name it, Kennedy. The stability that they've had for 354 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: such a long period of time now has held them 355 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: in good stead and is why they are without now. 356 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, ultimately they've come through the other side to this 357 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 6: point in time, and it's taken some pain, no doubt, Raith. 358 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 6: But what I was seeing with these numbers is that 359 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 6: the Melbourne Storm spine of Papaau's and Munster, Hughes and Grant, 360 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 6: the best spine in the comp by a country mile, 361 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 6: have only played eight games together as a spine compared 362 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 6: to the Sharks, And I just wonder when we get 363 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 6: to Friday night under the and you know so much 364 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 6: respect for the Storm, but under the intensity of a 365 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 6: prelim final, just that cohesion, the combination, particularly Jerome, particularly Jerome, 366 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 6: whether that's an advantage to Coronullo. 367 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: What stands out to me there is And we spoke 368 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: about this quite about a month or so ago. We thought, 369 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 2: you know, they've been so consistent, they've had the same team, 370 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 2: but they actually hadn't had a hell of a lot 371 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: of success considering the spine they had. Winning the last 372 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 2: nine out of ten has significantly changed that. I look 373 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 2: at Melbourne, only seven, but their win. 374 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 3: Rate it's very high, it is, it's very high. 375 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: I think the Sharks now, I said last night, you know, 376 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: their forwards are better. They've got no injuries, they're fit, 377 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: they're firing, they're playing with aggression. But the most important 378 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: thing is Brayley. But also they're seven and six. 379 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: Are not only playing well individually, they're playing well as 380 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: a combination and that's what they'll need if they are 381 00:17:59,080 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: to win this. 382 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 4: Cuts are good, but since round seventeen the Melbourne spine 383 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 4: hasn't played all thenther So. 384 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 6: That comes back to my point about Cahosion comes out 385 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 6: absolutely make a. 386 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: Point about Cronoa. I think So much of this is 387 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: on Foranil Blake in that I looked at brayley stats. Right, 388 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: we worked this out last year. When he runs five 389 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: times in a game, they virtually win all the time, right, 390 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: five times, So you ask the question, why doesn't he 391 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: run it more often? 392 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 3: We've got to have the opportunity to run. 393 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 5: Well. 394 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: What Fana Blake has done has got them on the 395 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: front foot. Last year Brayley ran it five times five 396 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: times in the game, I think five times, the year 397 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: before five, the year before six. This year he's run 398 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: it five times eleven occasions. Because this man is getting 399 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: him on the front foot. He's getting he's bringing forwards 400 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: like Groodolph into his slipstream, Rudolph's career esque because of 401 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: him as a one one time. And then you've got 402 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: Heinz and Trindle when they're on the front foot, they 403 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: are damn good, they're creative, You've got the running of 404 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: Hinds and I think it all comes from Faneur Blake. 405 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: It all comes down to again, Ken the Sharks mine 406 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: deliver on the biggest stage of all when they've got 407 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: the most pressure on them. And we know that Melbourne 408 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: Ken the dogs are staying staunched despite straight sets finals exit. 409 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 3: Is there any regret here from the Bulldogs? 410 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 2: We go on there again internally, Dave, you obviously you 411 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: had a good relationship with Kern surroundo. I'm sure you've 412 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: spoken to him before and after the weekend. Have they 413 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: got any regrets or is it still sort of? 414 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 6: I think there's regrets in the relation to going out 415 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 6: the back door of the finals, for sure. I mean 416 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 6: they can't be disappointed. They can't not be disappointed. 417 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: Of course, but I'm not talking about it. 418 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: We're talking about regrets around how the season unfolded, the 419 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: decisions they made and where they landed. 420 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 6: Kareron's not going to back away from those decisions both 421 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 6: and we all know that, and we've seen how staunch 422 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 6: is on it, and I think they would view it 423 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 6: as this is all out of the stepping stand towards 424 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 6: trying to create. 425 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 4: The story or standing by a decision because we hear 426 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 4: that lately doesn't mean it's right, not necessarily. 427 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 5: Do you think it's the right decision? 428 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 4: Like in hindsight, would you have made the same if. 429 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 6: Lachlan Galvin was available mid year and you could pick 430 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 6: him up. 431 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 3: I would pick him up. I think I think everyone 432 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 3: has agreed with that. 433 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 6: I disagree with that, and so therefore I don't think 434 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 6: you can have any regretting that. 435 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: No one question. 436 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 6: I agree with the belief that they had a charmed draw. 437 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 6: They they it was a false economy in relation to 438 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 6: the teams that they had to play early. 439 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: Set that on ear I got hammered on this show. 440 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: But yes, you are one hundred percent right. But first on, 441 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: it was a false economy on that they were so 442 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: high because it's a soft draw. 443 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 5: Well, they played Brisbane a couple of times and that hadn't. 444 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 1: They They played Brisbane and they got smashed by Brisbane. 445 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: They beat Cambro, they play the Raiders. Yes, they'd played. 446 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: They played all their gun games at the back end 447 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: of the season. Is the point I was fascinated by 448 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: gas was comments the other night that Galvin had never 449 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: played seven in his life. 450 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 3: Apparently, which makes a decision. Well, it's fascinating. 451 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: Just one of the Bulldog's attitude has been we got 452 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: three months because they brought in galvity debut around fourteen, 453 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: so three months. We don't know how this is going 454 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: to work, but we've got three months to get the 455 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: will figure it out. 456 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 3: And they never quite did. 457 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: So they figured it out with the likes of all 458 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: the number thirteens or number fourteens they had in the team, 459 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 1: and they worked out how to have everyone play in 460 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: this system. And it seems like they backed themselves. In 461 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: three months, we'll get this right. It'll be some teething problems. 462 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: The problem was the teething problems never ended. 463 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 5: And I think they still had a successful season. 464 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 4: If I'm a Bulldogs fan, I'd be happy, but I 465 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 4: just thought that the ending. 466 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 5: Could have been a little bit better. 467 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 3: All right? 468 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 2: Could Matt Burton be pushed out as Dogs try to 469 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 2: accommodate for Galvin? Now we've been told by Gas that 470 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: Mitch Woods will way half back, which means Galvin will 471 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 2: move to six because Gus spoke about that as well, 472 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: which therefore has three centers that go into two. 473 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 3: What are we hearing here. 474 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 6: I don't think he's been pushed out. I think he's 475 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 6: I think there's a. 476 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 3: He's pushed out of the half. I don't think. 477 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 6: I don't think mitch Wood starts round one, I'll put 478 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 6: it that way. I think Matt Burton starts in the 479 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 6: halves round one. 480 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 3: And who's half back? We'll probably Galvin. Okay, right, he's 481 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 3: not a halfback. That's according to Gas. 482 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 5: Confused. 483 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 3: He's so very frustrated. 484 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 2: Because people think I'm having a crack at the Bulldogs. 485 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 2: But really I'm trying to work out this what's going 486 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 2: on there, and I'm trying to trying to get to 487 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: the bottom of it. 488 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 6: I just yeah, I think I think. I think Matt 489 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 6: Burton goes in the center's break. 490 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: Okay, let's just stop here. 491 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: So you think that Galvin is going to start the 492 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: year as number seven? 493 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 6: Next year, I think Mitchell Woods will have to take 494 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 6: time unless he plays lights out preseason. 495 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: But don't think that's fascinating given the second changes issue 496 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: in the comments made. 497 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 3: By going absolutely yeah, yeah I do. 498 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 6: However, in the long run, I believe Mitch Woods will 499 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 6: be the half back, Galvan. 500 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 5: Will be six. 501 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: I think Burn's a genuine chance to play center. So 502 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 3: read what happens to share. I think Crichton goes to 503 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 3: full back. Really, why not the attacks there anyway? Center 504 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 3: in the game get the ball. 505 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 6: In his hands more is say, and we see him 506 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 6: attack twenty out anyway, he's been playing fullback. 507 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 3: Tracy goes to center. Tracy goes to center twenty out. 508 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: That's how they shift their attack. So interesting is Burton okay? 509 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 8: With all that? 510 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 6: And if you think about those rookie halves that will 511 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 6: eventually be Woods and Galvin, you would think they would 512 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 6: need a dominant voice from the back in Crichton, who's 513 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 6: one of the best leaders in the game, helping steer 514 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 6: them around. 515 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 3: I think it makes sense. 516 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 5: And I ask a quick question. 517 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 4: All the fullbacks are amazing passes now, all the real 518 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 4: successful you watch how Tedesco has improved. Does Crichton have 519 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 4: that in his. 520 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: Gal that's for the coaches made on it. I mean, 521 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: it makes a freak. 522 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: He's an outstanding Any truth to the Ponger rumors because 523 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: I kind of was thinking about it the last few 524 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: days and I thought, well, if Burton's kind of and 525 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: this is all speculation, but if Burton's on the outer 526 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: and they've got to try and fit three into two 527 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: and they don't have a fullback he was this is 528 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: the article you wrote, And I thought, you know, if Conda, 529 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: if they shifted Connor, Tracy on and Burton, and the 530 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: rumors around even be going to perfect Burton, then they 531 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: could buy Ponger. 532 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 6: Is that it makes sense, right, you're putting your numbers 533 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 6: together and it makes sense. 534 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 3: But look, all my inquiries suggest that. 535 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 6: Ponger's not heading there, and they do have a stockpile 536 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 6: of fullbacks, very talented young fullbacks coming through, and they've 537 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 6: got Kate Dikes, Aman Fitzgibbon, They've picked up David Brighton, 538 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 6: very young, talented Queenslander, and they've still got Connor on 539 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 6: their books. So there's a fair bit of work to 540 00:24:59,200 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 6: be done at fullback. 541 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: I think once obvious they have to be different next year. 542 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: They have decided, rightly or wrongly, that the way they 543 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: went about it this year the first half of the 544 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: season didn't wasn't going to work. They made that decision, 545 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: that's why, which was Burton at six. Obviously Sexton has 546 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: been moved on anyway, but obviously what happened in the 547 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: back half of the sision didn't work either. So surely 548 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: they're going to have a different look about them. And 549 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: I worry a bit. We're placing a lot of heat 550 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: on a kid who's never played first grade. Now he 551 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: made me Nathan Cleary, I don't know. I know the 552 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: raps on him are huge, but you're sort of you're 553 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: going to be a bit by beware with a young 554 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 1: young player. 555 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 6: Dan just wax lyrical about Adam Vanil Blake. We go 556 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 6: through the four remaining teams and we think about the 557 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 6: front rowers in those four teams, mostly out of pain 558 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 6: ass Big Stefano, who too, Komanu and Vanilla Blake. 559 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 3: That's missing from the Bulldogs I. 560 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: Think are going to be easy. Top eight, probably top 561 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 2: four again. They are missing a forward, but geez, they've 562 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 2: got some decisions to make. 563 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 3: We just spoke about him and where do we land. 564 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: They've got big decisions in a key position. It's going 565 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: to be fascinating to see how it und Now you're 566 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: talking about Ponger whole brook as he managed to sit down. 567 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 6: He has, Yeah, and that's important because we look what 568 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 6: was garnered out of Justin catching up with Kaylen. Only 569 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 6: time will tell because that's how Kaylen rolls like. He 570 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 6: sort of leads to his own drum. He's making all 571 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 6: the all the indications that all's rosy. 572 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 3: I'll be there. 573 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 5: Next year. 574 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, next year. 575 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 6: He's starting pre season training. He was at training when 576 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 6: Justin went up to Newcastle last week. 577 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 3: But the thing is, guys, we just don't know. 578 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 5: With Kaylen, we just keep if he goes, look, I 579 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 5: want to look elsewhere? Or will they go? 580 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 6: God, if you've got a player that doesn't want to 581 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 6: be there, do you fight to keep him? If it 582 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 6: came to push push, came to shove that, Caylen said, 583 00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 6: I'm looking elsewhere and at his salary, I think. 584 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 2: You moving on reports Tommy Turbo could be super le 585 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: bound over a contract. Is it a stout or a 586 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: contract disagreement? 587 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 3: What's happening? It's a stalemate. 588 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 5: What's happen? 589 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 3: Can you talk? Sure? Well? Look, a formal offer was. 590 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 6: Put forward to Tom Trabovitch and his management, of which 591 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 6: wasn't formally ratified by the manly Board, of which then 592 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 6: a counter offer was put forward at three hundred thousand dollars, 593 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 6: less that the board were happy with. That has disappointed 594 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 6: the Traboyevitch camp. In the meantime, the UK Super League 595 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 6: have been entertained. Warrington have put forward a two year 596 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 6: offer and where at this. 597 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: Point wasn't a rachet clause, it was they lowered the 598 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: offer load off. 599 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 6: There was there was an intention to have a ratet 600 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 6: causing included. 601 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 3: In the contract. It's ridiculous, It's messy. 602 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean, mainly are not reliable in this area, given 603 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: what happened with So They're reputation in this field is 604 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: not particularly strong. DC goes on Channel nine and announces 605 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: he's leaving. And what does Manly do in response? They 606 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: call this show and make an offer on this show. 607 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: They make an offer on television. I mean, is this 608 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: how you negotiate Tom Travoyevitch Tom Trible? If you think 609 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: he's injury prone or you think he's best. 610 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 3: Is behind him, you don't offer. 611 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: You allow him to go. You don't make an offer. 612 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 1: This is one of your favorite sons. The disrespect that 613 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: you make him an offer and then you go to 614 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: the board and reduce it by one hundred grands. 615 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 3: So does that mean Tony mestrov his powers? 616 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: Essentially he is a puppet leader if that is the 617 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: case where he can't make a handshake deal because. 618 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 3: He's going to go through to the board. 619 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: And if you actually want Tom, if you are genuine 620 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: about Tom, you pay one hundred grand. One hundred grand 621 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: out of eleven point five million. It's less than one 622 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: Have I got this right? It's less than one percent 623 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 1: of the salary cap. Have I got this right? I 624 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: tipped it into my calculator and I thought one hundred 625 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: thousand is one percent of the cap was massive, strong point. 626 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 6: You know what it used to be, guys, I think, 627 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 6: he stays, Look I see what's unfolding here. 628 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 5: I just it'll be a PR disaster. 629 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, all right, you boys, said you Dan, Thank you. 630 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 2: Dave up next to Legends Agenda with Craig Gower and 631 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: Ready Mature and the Cricket is Back Australia. Australia travel 632 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: to New Zealand for a three match T twenty series 633 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 2: and it all begins Wednesday, October one on Fox Cricket