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Speaker 1: Jason Lawren on one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Hey, big day to day Clint. Here in Victoria police

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Speaker 2: are walking off the job.

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Speaker 3: It's going to impact the police Academy in Glen Wave

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Speaker 3: and also the broad Meadows Police station. It's an escalation

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Speaker 3: of the industrial action the Police Association and police officers

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Speaker 3: are taking. They're looking for a pay rise, a substantial

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Speaker 3: pay rise, twenty four percent in some instances.

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Speaker 2: Whether they want twenty four you know how it's you're

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Speaker 2: always going with a high number and met halfway.

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Speaker 1: Give it to them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: I think there was an offer on the table not

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Speaker 3: so long back of sixteen percent. It's that and also

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Speaker 3: the work day, reducing the work day to an eight

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Speaker 3: and a half hour shift from all of.

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Speaker 1: Our emergency services.

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Speaker 2: More money, absolutely. I mean you drive past any emergency

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Speaker 2: service vehicle here in Melbourne and the riding all over

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Speaker 2: the police cars.

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Speaker 1: They work bloody hard.

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Speaker 2: Also behind every police officer is a fly at home.

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Speaker 1: Exactly right. We're talking about this the other day, Jays.

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Speaker 4: Every time a police officer goes to work, really they're

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Speaker 4: putting themselves out there to protect other people and I

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Speaker 4: can't even imagine what that is like. Having a partner

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Speaker 4: go and do that kind of work. Or it's the

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Speaker 4: same with the army. It's the same with all of

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Speaker 4: those careers. It's must it must be hard for the

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Speaker 4: families at home, you'd be stressed every time they're at work.

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Speaker 2: Well, Nikki will be able to shed some light on it.

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Speaker 2: Her husband is a police officer and a specialist police Morning, Nikki.

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Speaker 5: How are you morning, Jason Lauren, thank you so much

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Speaker 5: for having me on No Worries.

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Speaker 4: Well time we hear about this industrial action quite often.

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Speaker 4: As a family member of someone who works in the force,

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Speaker 4: how does this stuff affect you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so, you know, in summary, really we've been together

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Speaker 5: for eleven years, and so we've been together throughout his

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Speaker 5: at the specialtist unit. And each stage of his career

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Speaker 5: came with its throwing difficulty and strains on our lives,

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Speaker 5: and particularly for the past two years where he's been

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Speaker 5: at the moment. I mean, we have a two year old.

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Speaker 5: I work in the legal industry. It's you know, it's

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Speaker 5: a busy time for everyone, but this job, his job

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Speaker 5: means that he's almost always at work, on call, at overtime,

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Speaker 5: and there's been countless times where he's been called out

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Speaker 5: what was called out? And you know that can happen

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Speaker 5: three times a day. And I've also received countless text

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Speaker 5: messages from him saying, you know that he was about

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Speaker 5: to come home, but then he's a job's come up

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Speaker 5: and he's no longer going to be able to come home,

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Speaker 5: and he doesn't know when he'll come home. So it

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Speaker 5: really makes it difficult, especially when you've got a young

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Speaker 3: Niki, that's the that's the physical toll as well. What

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Speaker 3: about the emotional toll that it takes on you personally.

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Speaker 3: What's it like having a husband serve in such a

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Speaker 5: Hmm, it's it's incredibly difficult. I won't lie if you know.

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Speaker 5: They particularly in his job at the moment, he's in

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Speaker 5: the self shut of the unit. So they respond to

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Speaker 5: really high conflict jobs and incredibly hostile situations and they

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Speaker 5: do that every day and you don't really see it,

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Speaker 5: and then you you don't hear about it, and it's

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Speaker 5: hard because the conditions of the job and the pay

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Speaker 5: it just it just doesn't meet the standard and it's

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Speaker 5: not sustainable probably long term for us if if he

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Speaker 5: doesn't receive a pay rise unfortunately, which is.

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Speaker 2: A shame because he's obviously doing it because he loves it.

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Speaker 5: They absolutely love it. I've never met someone more passionate

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Speaker 5: and his team is more passionate about, you know, protecting

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Speaker 2: After all lots anybody sitting here going you know, oh, look,

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Speaker 2: do they really deserve money? You think about it. When

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Speaker 2: you need to bring Triple O and need police somewhere,

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Speaker 2: you expect them there as.

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Speaker 4: A community, we do well. Nikki, thank you so much

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Speaker 4: for jumping on with us today. I mean, this is obviously, Clint,

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Speaker 4: it's a it's a big industrial thing and there's obviously

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, And the government is not just negotiating

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Speaker 3: with nurses and teachers. It's a fine balancing act. Just

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Speaker 3: before you let NICKI go, Nikki, what's your message to

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Speaker 3: say the premiere?

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Speaker 5: You know, it's it's something that really needs to be

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Speaker 5: feel as though they're being heard at the moment. Agreed, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's time for a change.

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Speaker 1: I think I.

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Speaker 2: Got really annoyed when we were just entrailing in the

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Speaker 2: situation where we're waiting for an ambulance to help an

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Speaker 2: if it was a priority, I promise the ambulance would

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Speaker 2: have been there. Continue now mate, if it was you

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Speaker 2: a half, you would have won them the.

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Speaker 4: Australia really and the issue is our police officers and

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Speaker 4: paramedics and AMBO workers. They're doing the best they can, yeah,

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Speaker 4: and they're all there to try and help people. So

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Speaker 4: there's obviously, I mean many issues that play here. Hey

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Speaker 4: thirteen twenty four ten. If you are a policeman who

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Speaker 4: who is walking out on the job, Clint, how will

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Speaker 4: it affect people like because it seems scary the police

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Speaker 4: walking out on the job.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say it sounds more dramatic than

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Speaker 3: it is, but it is only impacting broad Meadows today

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Speaker 3: and also Glen Waverley, the police training Academy.

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Speaker 2: So look, if you're want of the robbers in homer Line,

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Speaker 2: that doesn't mean it's free game too.

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Speaker 3: It's not widespread, but it is certainly an escalation of

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Speaker 3: industrial action and it sends a strong message to the

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Speaker 2: Thirteen twenty four ten is our number to join us

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Speaker 2: on the air year.

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Speaker 1: We love Alvic. We're big supporters of them in here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know we're a great job they do.

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Speaker 1: All the police officers listening.

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Speaker 2: To this and anybody out there listening at the moment

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Speaker 2: when you want to help, you expect them to be there.

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Speaker 2: So you know, let's chuck them more money, let's give them,

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Speaker 2: you know, better, better conditions. Thirteen twenty four ten is

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Speaker 2: especially if you are a police officer. Would love to

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Speaker 2: the Victorian police are walking out over a pay rise dispute.

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Speaker 2: I'm still going to mate in my name's coffee shop.

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Speaker 2: And they had a situation on the weekend where there's

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Speaker 2: just angry at how understaff they are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like all our emergency services are in

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Speaker 1: a similar way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and like eyewitnessed the crime at start

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Speaker 2: you know, and that's like that stuff stays with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they do a great job uptorn police officers.

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Speaker 3: This industrial action just to paint a picture of how

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Speaker 3: you nique it is and historic. It's the first time

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Speaker 3: police in Victoria have walked off the job in a

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Speaker 3: quarter of a century, breaking point, so they need a resolution.

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Speaker 2: Well, no one will understand it more than Meghan, who

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Speaker 2: is joining us on the air. Your entire family are

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Speaker 6: Good morning, Good morning. How are you guys?

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Speaker 1: Well, Meghan, what's happening in your family?

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Speaker 6: So my dad has been in the dog for twenty

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Speaker 6: two years, and then my Twistar has been in the

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Speaker 6: law has been in the job about four years.

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Speaker 4: Police there are police families. There's a lot of families

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Speaker 2: Imagine Mary. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So so my dad at the moment has actually been

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Speaker 6: not get emotional because he's suffering PTSD. And that's what

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Speaker 6: people don't see is the fact that, you know, there

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Speaker 6: he just took a breaking point and he's been off

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Speaker 6: I think that the money is going to help with that,

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Speaker 2: Can I ask you what was he struggling with? Was

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Speaker 6: Being burnt out? It's more, you know, people don't understand

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Speaker 7: Not normal.

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Speaker 2: Is your dad hero?

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Speaker 6: Oh, he's one of the best mans you'll ever meet.

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Speaker 6: And it's actually been really hard for our family. And

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Speaker 6: because it's all well and good to say that you've

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Speaker 4: Mean, your family obviously do a very great job, and

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Speaker 4: you can hear the stress that that families go through

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Speaker 4: when when other family members who work in the force

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Speaker 3: It's worth pointing out also the Police Association do a

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Speaker 2: Megan. I hope your dad's doing okay, mate, and I.

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Speaker 6: Appreciate you guys bringing awareness to this and I think

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Speaker 6: the pay is just a small thing that you obviously

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Billy. Now, Billy, you are

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Speaker 7: Oh, you know, it's it's it's frustrating that it's reached

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Speaker 7: this point. And you know, you just keep hearing the

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Speaker 7: you see the slogans on the side of the police cars,

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Speaker 7: one of them, one of them being nine hundred vacancies,

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Speaker 7: one of the platforms the organizations using to advertise our

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Speaker 7: career when well, all these vacancies could be filled by

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Speaker 7: of those nine hundred and once once we're off, it's

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Speaker 7: like we're you know, seen as damage goods. And you know,

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Speaker 7: let's just stand aide, fix it and replace them. And

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Speaker 7: if you don't fix the culture of everything, then.

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Speaker 2: It's not just about it's not just it's not just

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Speaker 2: you know, the cash here, what else do you want?

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Speaker 7: I think there's a symbolism to the cash as well.

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Speaker 7: Likes as Meghan just said speaking about the you know,

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Speaker 7: the trauma, like you go into this sort of knowing

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Speaker 7: that you're going to be exposed to that. And you

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Speaker 7: know most of us do bring, particularly in this generation.

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Speaker 7: I know it's changing a little bit, bring a lot

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Speaker 7: of self care to what we do, and you know,

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Speaker 7: you find a way to get through that stuff. But

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Speaker 7: then when there's moments like this where you don't feel

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Speaker 7: supported by being told, oh, you're not worth this, You're

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Speaker 7: not worth that, you started to question why do.

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Speaker 2: You do it?

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Speaker 7: And Clinton, I know you're a big d's man, and

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Speaker 7: you know you had two of your high profile players,

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Speaker 7: you know, exploring options with other clubs. It's it's nine

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Speaker 7: hundred in my football club, so to speak. And in

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Speaker 7: an AFL environment, there'd be an external review immediately to

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Speaker 7: address part life.

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Speaker 2: If that many people are leaving, Yeah, that's that's a worry. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's a sharing with us. I mentioned before, like I

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Speaker 2: witnessed quite a violent crime at the start of the

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Speaker 2: year and it really messed me up and stayed with

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Speaker 2: me and I just I the respect I had for

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Speaker 2: the cops that day was just like, this is just

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Speaker 2: an everyday job for me.

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Speaker 4: They deal with day in like it really blew me away. Look,

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Speaker 4: there's no doubt that our Victorian police do do a

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Speaker 4: great job. Hopefully they can come to a resolution and.

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Speaker 3: We're not just a mouthpiece for you know, the Victoria

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Speaker 3: police man. No God, someone from the state government who

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Speaker 3: wants to reach out to us, and we'll happily have

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Speaker 3: them on the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but let's be honest, no bullshit. I don't want

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Speaker 2: the political chats. If you're going to get on the show, like,

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Speaker 2: at least be honest.

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Speaker 4: So if you see a police officer walking down the street, yeah,

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Speaker 4: just remind them that they're doing a great job and

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Speaker 4: we're great.

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Speaker 2: Thank you absolutely, Lauren

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