Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to the Code NURL Monday edition.
Speaker 1: You probably realize Bulldog is not here, and neither is Soapy,
Speaker 1: So Tyson Jackson filling in with Fatima Fatima, how was
Speaker 1: your weekend? Big weekend of footy?
Speaker 2: It was a big weekend of footy. It was a
Speaker 2: very good weekend. What about you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was an interesting weekend. I think
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of answers this weekend that we
Speaker 1: probably didn't have before, and we've probably got a few
Speaker 1: more things to talk about.
Speaker 2: Before we talk about NRL footy. Do you want to
Speaker 2: talk about your local footy? You saunted in here saying
Speaker 2: you've done a long weekend of celebrating what yes, yes.
Speaker 1: Del ourself second grade. We are the minor premiers. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a good weekend. It was nice. Got the
Speaker 1: weekend off now and then into a Door Di semi
Speaker 1: final next week, so I'm excited. Can arrest the body,
Speaker 1: get ready.
Speaker 2: To catch up on some sleep.
Speaker 1: Catch up on some sleep, and then I'm retiring. So
Speaker 1: you know, we're we're on a good star.
Speaker 2: Last ride is that what you call last ride?
Speaker 1: There's not going to be a documentary like Michael Jordan,
Speaker 1: but going to We're going to do some celebrating, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: but let's dive into a footy because after my celebrating,
Speaker 1: I'll stop by the Dragon Sharks game yesterday, and what
Speaker 1: a game that was. I mean, I tipped the Sharks.
Speaker 1: I thought it would be closed, but I thought the
Speaker 1: Sharks just have way too much class. I thought the
Speaker 1: Sharks would go the rest of this year without having
Speaker 1: a loss. But this is a big issue. I feel,
Speaker 1: what did you make of that game?
Speaker 2: I don't think I was brave enough to tip the Dragon,
Speaker 2: so I think I tipped the Sharks. But as sort
Speaker 2: of we got closer to the game, I thought, if
Speaker 2: the Dragons are a real shot here because and I
Speaker 2: know the Sharks had been playing so well. They were
Speaker 2: on a high. Niko Hines was sort of gunning for
Speaker 2: hazarm l Masriz what is it, thirty five thirty six, Yeah,
Speaker 2: goals in a row. The rest of it. There was
Speaker 2: a lot of good things happening at the Sharks, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it was really disappointing from them. You know, look, the
Speaker 2: Dragons have been competitive. You have to give them that
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, but to come against come up
Speaker 2: against the side that he's running last. That's what one
Speaker 2: game so far this year for the Dragons. Two games
Speaker 2: and instead of I don't know whether a win is
Speaker 2: a statement win against a team you know running last,
Speaker 2: but to not come away with the win is pretty disappointing.
Speaker 2: And craigfits given after the game nailed it. He said
Speaker 2: the Dragons simply ran harder, tackled harder, and that was
Speaker 2: the difference. So, yeah, you know, Bulldog has been banging
Speaker 2: on for a few weeks now that he reckons that
Speaker 2: the Sharks still pretenders. What do you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah, after yesterday, I probably tend to agree with Bulldog
Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't know if I'd be brave
Speaker 1: enough to call them pretenders, but I just think we're
Speaker 1: going to get a bit more of the same from
Speaker 1: the Sharks. And I thought we were past that. I thought.
Speaker 1: I think I said someone the other day before yesterday
Speaker 1: that I could see like a rooster, Sharks ran final.
Speaker 1: I could see. That's how good I thought the Sharks were.
Speaker 1: But I mean now I just don't know, like you said,
Speaker 1: they just the Dragons did the simple things right. Yesterday.
Speaker 1: Damie Cook spent the entire game on the bench yesterday,
Speaker 1: like these are all things, et cetera. Two came off
Speaker 1: the bench on the wing the FI guy and came
Speaker 1: out and absolutely tore shreds off the Sharks. And the
Speaker 1: one thing that I think I really got to meet
Speaker 1: was that last try from cent two. It was off
Speaker 1: a scrum. The Sharks had done so well to hold
Speaker 1: out the Dragons when Adam fanil Blake had been simpin,
Speaker 1: which is probably going to be drama with as well
Speaker 1: shoulder straight to the head, but then to just let
Speaker 1: such a soft try in a we are we seeing
Speaker 1: the same Sharks as we always do? Which is which
Speaker 1: is what I was asking myself, and I think the
Speaker 1: answer sadly yes, Like you know, they're a good team
Speaker 1: and that's what they are every year. They're a top
Speaker 1: four team every year. But it's taking that next step.
Speaker 1: That's what we wanted to see from the Sharks this year,
Speaker 1: and I just don't know if they can do it.
Speaker 1: And if they can't do it this year with the
Speaker 1: players they're losing next year, I think their premiership windows
Speaker 1: closing and I think that's going to put pressure on
Speaker 1: Craig fits Given.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because speaking of last ride, they'd sort
Speaker 2: of adopted that with you know, all the players that
Speaker 2: are leaving at the end of the year. I mean,
Speaker 2: I said, beating the Dragons probably isn't a statement win.
Speaker 2: But when I think back on that, actually local derby
Speaker 2: in congrat it really was a chance for them to
Speaker 2: blow the Dragons off the park and they didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 2: in terms of Premiership windows, when you look at the
Speaker 2: guys that are leaving, probably it is not shutting completely
Speaker 2: for them. But I felt like going into this round
Speaker 2: they were probably in a better position to shake up
Speaker 2: the final series than ever before. And now I'm a
Speaker 2: little bit worried because you know, I was just disappointed
Speaker 2: with them on the weekend. But the Dragons, good on them.
Speaker 2: You were talking, your mate was celebrating. They're pretty hard,
Speaker 2: so look and they deserve the win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were were great, unbelievable actually like that, Like
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, they did the simple things right. But
Speaker 1: I think it was actually a really good glimpse into
Speaker 1: the future. I'm quite excited for the Dragons next year.
Speaker 1: I think they will compete for the top eight. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they'll make it or not.
Speaker 2: It's funny you say that because when I was watching them.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about should I write that in my tackle?
Speaker 2: Am I ballsy enough to say that the Wooden Spooners
Speaker 2: are going to make the top eight next year? But
Speaker 2: you look at yeah, exactly, but you look at how
Speaker 2: competitive they've been, You look at the guys coming in,
Speaker 2: you know, even the emergence of liking Kingtongia. You know,
Speaker 2: we saw Caid Reid with glimpses of Caid Reid earlier
Speaker 2: in the year. He went okay without setting the ball
Speaker 2: on fire, but all of a sudden, you know, even
Speaker 2: Kyle flanningg and Kyle flang And had his moments. He
Speaker 2: wasn't perfect on Sunday, but he's been playing some good footie.
Speaker 2: So I really like what I'm seeing from them. And
Speaker 2: when you think about the guys that are coming in, yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe they are a genuine chance of making the finals
Speaker 2: next year.
Speaker 1: You gonna say this about Kyle before we move on
Speaker 1: from the Dragons, but I think Kyle has copped a
Speaker 1: lot of crap purely because of what his last name is.
Speaker 1: I'm actually really glad that Dean Young has taken the
Speaker 1: risky move by dropping Daniel Atkinson. Who's this guy that
Speaker 1: was supposed to be their long term half. Now I
Speaker 1: don't think Kyle or Daniel will be at the club
Speaker 1: long term anymore. Obviously, Cody nik Koreima and Luke Metcalf,
Speaker 1: which we will get to, are coming next year. But
Speaker 1: Kyle Flanaghan, Dean Young stuck to his guards. He said,
Speaker 1: Kyle Flanagan is the best guy for this spot, which
Speaker 1: I think he has been all year. He's a genuine seven.
Speaker 1: He just kicked the ball along. He can set up
Speaker 1: plays and organize the field, which is what he's done,
Speaker 1: and that's a big part of the reason they won yesterday.
Speaker 1: So I think Dean Young deserves a massive rap because
Speaker 1: we talk about balls and having having, you know, the
Speaker 1: guts to do something like that. Dean Young has shown
Speaker 1: in so early on to his coaching career that he
Speaker 1: will make the tough calls. No matter how much to
Speaker 1: pay Danielakinson to come and be their guy. He's not
Speaker 1: their guy. They've got two guys coming next year. But
Speaker 1: Kyle Flanaghan right now is the best for that job,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad that they've stuck with him.
Speaker 2: What do you think happens to down at CONSAI next year?
Speaker 2: How does he fit in.
Speaker 1: I think there's an interesting I think there's an interesting
Speaker 1: thing that's going to happen with Daniel Atkinson and with
Speaker 1: Clint Gutson. One of them, unless if you play Clint
Speaker 1: Gutson in the Centers, I think one of them will
Speaker 1: have to be the eighteenth or nineteenth man. Clint Guts'
Speaker 1: obviously on a lot of money. He's not gonna be
Speaker 1: there full back next year, and I probably wouldn't play
Speaker 1: him the Centers either. I don't think he makes the
Speaker 1: Dragon's Best seventeen next year, but I thought he played
Speaker 1: well yesterday. I will say that. But just with the
Speaker 1: amount of talent they have, so I think one of
Speaker 1: them has to go. If I'm Daniel Atkinson, I think
Speaker 1: the writing's on the wall. They've signed two genuine halves
Speaker 1: over me, two top eight halves who there's no question
Speaker 1: who they're like. It's not even a race, right. Cody
Speaker 1: Nikarima and Luke Metcalf will be their halves next year.
Speaker 1: So Daniel Atkinson I think needs to swallow his pride
Speaker 1: a little bit and make the call himself to get
Speaker 1: out and find somewhere else, because there's places that will
Speaker 1: take him. I mean he'd be a great signing for Perth.
Speaker 1: It hasn't worked at the Dragons and so be it.
Speaker 1: That's not gonna work everywhere you go. But I genuinely
Speaker 1: believe that he will be a better fit somewhere else,
Speaker 1: and for his sake, he's probably best to go to
Speaker 1: the club and ask for a release and find another club. Fatima.
Speaker 1: My favorite game of the round was the Penrith Warriors game.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to go out there and say, and
Speaker 1: I'm not a Warriors fan, they should be allowed to
Speaker 1: do the hawker before every single one of their games.
Speaker 1: I think it's an unfair advantage. Yeah, but I like it.
Speaker 1: I like the theatrics, and any team that has to
Speaker 1: go there to play a finals game this year I
Speaker 1: feel sorry for. First of all, what did you make
Speaker 1: of that game? I mean, we talk about top of
Speaker 1: the table clashes, we talk about epic clashes. I don't
Speaker 1: think it gets much better than that.
Speaker 2: No, it was Yeah, like you said, it started off
Speaker 2: obviously it was indigenous round with the hawker, which was
Speaker 2: an amazing touch. But the atmosphere was just incredible. You know.
Speaker 2: I heard a couple of times in the commentary comparing
Speaker 2: it to a nightclub. It's just it feels like, you know,
Speaker 2: the fans are riding this high. I noticed on and
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is a new thing, maybe
Speaker 2: it's been there all season, but on the Warriors Instagram
Speaker 2: page in the profile, it's got our year and that
Speaker 2: sort of caught my attention on the weekend and I thought,
Speaker 2: you know what it might just be and you look
Speaker 2: at the immergence of you know, Leccha Hellaesima. I know
Speaker 2: people want to compare him to Sunny Bill the rest
Speaker 2: of it, but he's just a different beast onto himself.
Speaker 2: I mean he was he turned you know what was it?
Speaker 2: I think he turned Nathan Cleary into a speed hump
Speaker 2: a couple of times there in that run. Look, they've
Speaker 2: got depth, which I think has has been the difference,
Speaker 2: and we've seen that with Luke Metcalff come in and
Speaker 2: Luke Mtcuff had to bide his time, he had to
Speaker 2: be patient, and then he comes in and you know what,
Speaker 2: to his credit, he was absolutely brilliant in that game.
Speaker 2: What did he score two tries? So yeah, it'll be
Speaker 2: an interesting one to see what Andrew Webster does with them.
Speaker 2: But I just you know, look, you look at their
Speaker 2: forward pack. You've got lek A hell A Seema, who
Speaker 2: is probably the best young forward in the game, but
Speaker 2: he's playing out in the centers. You know, You've got
Speaker 2: guys like Tanna, Jacob Laban, dimitric Bymonga, all of them
Speaker 2: who have sort of gone to another level this year.
Speaker 2: Lots of excitement and striking outside backs. And yeah, I
Speaker 2: think if they're the team, if anybody's going to challenge Penrith,
Speaker 2: who are looking a bit wobbly at the moment, I
Speaker 2: think it's it's the Warriors.
Speaker 1: We will get to Penrith. But I just think when
Speaker 1: it comes to the Warriors, like you said, Andrew Webbs
Speaker 1: has got such a tough decision to make because I
Speaker 1: think tomorrow Martin has been great, but I think the
Speaker 1: Warriors haven't looked that good all year. I love that
Speaker 1: Luke Metcalf came out with the point to prove, and
Speaker 1: he also didn't make that a secret. After the game,
Speaker 1: I was listening to his interview on Triple M, I believe,
Speaker 1: and Charlie from Triple M asked him, oh, do you
Speaker 1: want to keep this number seven jersey? And he just
Speaker 1: flat out and said yes, So I want this jersey,
Speaker 1: this is my team. I feel like we don't have
Speaker 1: enough of that in the NRL. We're very used to
Speaker 1: the generic whatever's best of the team, what this whatever
Speaker 1: is that after the weekend, I think Luke Metcalf is
Speaker 1: what's best for this team. And I've said, I've said
Speaker 1: to a few people. I've said to a few Dragons
Speaker 1: fans that have come up to me and asked, we're
Speaker 1: going to be great next year. I said, I hope
Speaker 1: you guys are signing Luke Metcalf the Warriors half and
Speaker 1: not you know, a half back that had struggled before
Speaker 1: he went to the Warriors. Because that's what Luke Metcalf's
Speaker 1: career was. And we've seen every player that stepped into
Speaker 1: that number seven jersey for the Warriors that's played great footy.
Speaker 1: So is it a Warrior's thing or a Luke Metcalft thing. Well,
Speaker 1: the fact that Luke Metcalf came back and did what
Speaker 1: he did on the weekend, I think it's almost a
Speaker 1: Luke Metcalf thing. Now I can say confidently that I
Speaker 1: think Luke Metcalf is the best number seven they have
Speaker 1: at that club. You put ego aside, you put the
Speaker 1: fact that he's not going to be there next year.
Speaker 1: This is the Warrior's chance to win a premiership and
Speaker 1: they need Luke Metcalf there. And I think the reason
Speaker 1: why this is the chance for the Warriors to win
Speaker 1: a premiership Isaiahoh. I think a lot of people will
Speaker 1: brush over it, or a lot of people will say
Speaker 1: they've still got Nathan Cleary, They've still got this awesome team,
Speaker 1: which they do. But Isaiaho, if he's ruled out for
Speaker 1: the rest of the year or ruled out for a
Speaker 1: long period, it's looking like a torn peck. He might
Speaker 1: make it back for the Grand Final if they make
Speaker 1: it that far, but I just don't know if they
Speaker 1: can do it without him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm it's so hard. They're a champion team. It's
Speaker 2: almost muscle memory, you know, when they get to the finals.
Speaker 2: What is interesting for me is, and you know what,
Speaker 2: Isaia Yo could be in any team and there would
Speaker 2: not be a likeful like replacement, But they just don't
Speaker 2: have that like for like replacement. I mean, I think
Speaker 2: there's there's a word that you know, we're assuming that
Speaker 2: Yo is going to be out at least for a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. We're waiting to hear exactly the extent
Speaker 2: of the injury that Lindsay Smith will be the guy
Speaker 2: to go in there. How do you think, how do
Speaker 2: you think that'll go?
Speaker 1: I like Lindsay Smith. I think Lindsay Smith is as
Speaker 1: close to a like for like replacement as Isaiah Yoh.
Speaker 1: He's a tough ball carrier, he's got a great, great
Speaker 1: passing game. His defense, like all of the Panish Panthers,
Speaker 1: is on song. So I do like, I do like
Speaker 1: Lindsay Smith, but it's just not the same. And it's like,
Speaker 1: you move Lindsay Smith from it, it's a trickle ef thing.
Speaker 1: Do you move Lindsay Smith from prop to lock, you
Speaker 1: lose Isaiaho, then Liam Henry has to come and replace
Speaker 1: Lindsay Smith. Then you lose a bit of punch off
Speaker 1: the bench and trickles and trickles and trickles and trickles,
Speaker 1: And then we get to a point where there's going
Speaker 1: to be times like there was on the weekend where
Speaker 1: they just they just can't get it done. And once
Speaker 1: it gets the finals, sure they can lose the first week,
Speaker 1: but then it still will die. Then it's any anyone
Speaker 1: could be It could be anyone's day could be anyone's game.
Speaker 1: All it takes Nathan clearly to have an off game,
Speaker 1: and we don't say that often. We don't see him
Speaker 1: having an off game often, but all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the favorites could be done and that could leave I
Speaker 1: think will be the Grand Final. Now bold statement, A
Speaker 1: Rooster's Warriors Grand.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're going Rooster's Warriors. Look, it's It's interesting because
Speaker 2: I think we're also underestimating what an impact of Dylan
Speaker 2: Edwards and Mitch Kenny not being there. So I think
Speaker 2: that changes a narrative little bit when those two come back.
Speaker 2: Dylan Edwards I believe might be a chance this week.
Speaker 2: Mitch Kenny we're probably not going to see him until
Speaker 2: the finals. So even if they don't have Isaiah, you
Speaker 2: inject those two guys back in the spine. I think
Speaker 2: we're having a different conversation. But you know what I
Speaker 2: know watching that game on the weekend, Yes, Penrith weren't
Speaker 2: at their best. They were off, you know, in that
Speaker 2: last twenty minutes fifteen minutes, Nathan Cleary sort of took
Speaker 2: that team on his back and almost got them home.
Speaker 2: But I realized he can't do it on his saying,
Speaker 2: So they're going to they're going to need Mitch Kenny back,
Speaker 2: and they're going to need Dylan Edwards back, hopefully, you know,
Speaker 2: as fit as he possibly can be at this time
Speaker 2: of the year. And I think that makes a difference
Speaker 2: if they lose another spine guy between now and the finals.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to write them off, but I don't
Speaker 2: think they look as dangerous as they did. You know
Speaker 2: at the start of the year, what did.
Speaker 1: You make of Blasee Talani not getting put onto the field?
Speaker 1: We heard word twenty four hours before that Jack Coggar
Speaker 1: wouldn't make the trip. The news break that blaslong he
Speaker 1: was going to get recalled into that side, but Ivan
Speaker 1: Cleary decided to go Jack Cole instead of Jack Cole
Speaker 1: and Nathan Cleary combination. Do you reckon it's just Blaze,
Speaker 1: you just got to wait, We just we just want
Speaker 1: to keep you out for a bit, or do you
Speaker 1: reckon this is a sign that maybe they don't feel
Speaker 1: that he's going to be there guy going into into September.
Speaker 2: Good question, and I think it's a little bit of both,
Speaker 2: you know, like because we know what Blaze can do
Speaker 2: when it comes to, you know, creating opportunities the attack
Speaker 2: and the rest of it. But the problem is that
Speaker 2: edge in defense has been a problem, and it has
Speaker 2: been a problem all year. And we saw when he
Speaker 2: first came to the club that you know, Ivan Cleary
Speaker 2: had no problem with letting him, you know, get to
Speaker 2: learn their systems, bide his time before he you know,
Speaker 2: blooded him. And Ivan's just making what he thinks. I
Speaker 2: think it's a defensive thing. What is best for the team,
Speaker 2: What that means for him going forward, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I mean, Jack Coggar stayed back because his missus was
Speaker 2: having a baby, so obviously that changes. I'm assuming this
Speaker 2: week he's back, and I think I think that Jack
Speaker 2: Coga Nathan Cleary combination works better for them. I don't
Speaker 2: know what your thoughts are on that, and I understand
Speaker 2: why people questioning what it means for Blaze, but I
Speaker 2: think in terms of being a foil for Nathan Cleary,
Speaker 2: I think Jack Cogger that probably does that a bit
Speaker 2: better at than Blaze to Lungey, And I think defensively,
Speaker 2: Ivan is worried about that edge really really being a
Speaker 2: weakness for them going into the finals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you on. It's definitely a defensive
Speaker 1: thing and that edge has struggled, and then you've got
Speaker 1: you've got to make a decision if you're eitheran is
Speaker 1: a Blazer is a Casey McLean that you drop We
Speaker 1: all know what Casey McLean is. Now, he's an origin player.
Speaker 1: You know he's one of the best centers in the competition.
Speaker 1: I feel as though Blaze is being a bit of
Speaker 1: the fall guy here, a bit of escapegoat because at
Speaker 1: the start of the year when parents were dominating and
Speaker 1: we didn't think they'd lose a game all year, Blaze
Speaker 1: were scoring tries, were setting up tries, taking short sides,
Speaker 1: his creative playoff the back of eighth and actually, what
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed about Pedis at the start of the
Speaker 1: year was Nathan's kicking game along with Blazers chase. Because
Speaker 1: you had an extra Chaser in there, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you put more pressure on the defense and you can
Speaker 1: put you can get a drop ball, you can get this,
Speaker 1: you can get that. He's getting a lot of results.
Speaker 1: I think, I think if you're gonna don't don't mess
Speaker 1: with Blazer's head, right, If Blaze is if Blaze is
Speaker 1: going to be or five to eighth. You know, sure,
Speaker 1: let him you dropped him. Once he starts getting better,
Speaker 1: you have to put him back in that team. I
Speaker 1: think I don't think they can win a premiership without Blaze,
Speaker 1: to be honest, because I think Blaze is just and
Speaker 1: you say whatever you want about his defense and whatnot,
Speaker 1: but you need flair, you need attack. And that's the
Speaker 1: one thing on the weekend watching Penrith and I went,
Speaker 1: they're struggling to score points. They're struggling to score points.
Speaker 1: So this is a team that doesn't struggle to score points.
Speaker 1: Blaze fixes that. Fatima. We are heading in to the
Speaker 1: pointy end of the year and crunch from numbers of
Speaker 1: how to look at you've got? We've got drop? I
Speaker 1: dropped maths in a year eleven okay, but the calculator
Speaker 1: still does work on my phone. So we're all right
Speaker 1: the team. We are heading in to the pointy end
Speaker 1: of the year and crunch from numbers. I've had to
Speaker 1: look at you you've got We've got drop? I dropped
Speaker 1: maths in a year eleven okay, but the calculator still
Speaker 1: does work on my phone, so we're all right. There
Speaker 1: is a few teams that are locked into the eight
Speaker 1: so Pentis, Panthers, locked in, Roosters, Warriors, Sharks, the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: and the Knights.
Speaker 2: Which I mean, you're looking at the Knights, Okay, Well, I.
Speaker 1: Don't believe they need any more wins. I think they're
Speaker 1: locked in. So I think seventh and eighth are the
Speaker 1: two spots up for grabs. Now. The Rabbit O's will
Speaker 1: need two out of four wins, the Cowboys one out
Speaker 1: of three wins, the Bulldogs three out of four wins,
Speaker 1: Manly four out of four wins, and then the Storm Raiders, Eels, Tigers, Titans,
Speaker 1: Broncos and Dragons. Sadly we're going to put a line
Speaker 1: through them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair enough.
Speaker 1: So I think this is interesting because we've got the
Speaker 1: Rabbits and the Dogs facing off against each other yep,
Speaker 1: and you just feel as though whoever loses this game
Speaker 1: is going to fall out. The Cowboys, they are a
Speaker 1: team that got eighty two points to put on them
Speaker 1: the other week. I can almost guarantee that they're going
Speaker 1: to play finals out of the easy show coming home. Ye,
Speaker 1: requiring one out of three wins got the buy. I
Speaker 1: think the ridings of the ball and The Cowboys are
Speaker 1: a momentum team as well. If they can go on
Speaker 1: a run into the finals, they get Tom diden back
Speaker 1: who knows where they can finish? Who knows where? Like
Speaker 1: you know yet week one, Week two of the finals.
Speaker 1: They're a team that has enough talent that they can
Speaker 1: put on a I.
Speaker 2: Know, but a team with that much talent shouldn't get Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: you know, smacked by eighty points thinking about that momentum, right,
Speaker 2: and you're right, they do have a Of those teams,
Speaker 2: they have the softest run, which includes a buy so
Speaker 2: Ils Tigers, right you think, you know, no offense to
Speaker 2: both of our teams at the moment, and even the Eels, who,
Speaker 2: let's face that, haven't been amazing for the last couple
Speaker 2: of weeks. But even if they win all those games,
Speaker 2: that's a pretty soft momentum going into the finals, I think,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, I don't think that
Speaker 2: sort of gives them enough of that competitive edge going in.
Speaker 2: But having said that, I just simply don't trust them,
Speaker 2: like you know the Raiders. You know, the Raiders can
Speaker 2: be a thorn in the sides of a couple of
Speaker 2: teams to in the season, but yeah, you're right, Like,
Speaker 2: looking at that draw, you think you should at least
Speaker 2: hope that, you know, they should make it. The Dogs
Speaker 2: and the Rabbit O's are interesting, Like you said, they
Speaker 2: play each other. The Dogs play the Dragons, Panthers and
Speaker 2: the Broncos and then the Rabbit O's after the Dogs
Speaker 2: game finished with the Warriors Titans Roosters, and that's probably
Speaker 2: the the tougher run with the Warriors and finishing that
Speaker 2: final round with the rooster So yeah, I know, Cannaby right,
Speaker 2: three from four. Yeah, yeah, I think looking at that,
Speaker 2: I reckon they should beat the Rabbit O's. They'll beat
Speaker 2: the Dragons, they've beaten Penrith before, they'll give them a
Speaker 2: bit of confidence, and who knows what the Broncos are
Speaker 2: going to offer up and the final round of the season.
Speaker 1: So you think you think could do it?
Speaker 2: I think they can. I still think they're ironing out
Speaker 2: some things which we saw clearly in that Rooster's game.
Speaker 2: And even you know, for all of the fanfare over
Speaker 2: the Lachlan Galvin Stephen Crichton combination, and it has been
Speaker 2: good and Galvin has been playing some decent footy, creating opportunity,
Speaker 2: scoring tries really he's sort of, you know, been one
Speaker 2: of their only spucks in attack in the last couple
Speaker 2: of weeks. I'm not fully sold on it. You know,
Speaker 2: Galvin was on The Maddie John Show last night on
Speaker 2: Sunday and I don't think he's him said openly put
Speaker 2: his hand up and said he's not an organizer. That's
Speaker 2: not his thing. Well neither he even Crichton. That that's
Speaker 2: going to be a problem. And I think we saw
Speaker 2: a little bit of that, that lack of game management
Speaker 2: in that Roosters game where they just sort of didn't
Speaker 2: Pepper Cody Ramsey under the high ball as much as
Speaker 2: they should have, and just little things like that. The
Speaker 2: combination sort of you know, there was a moment there
Speaker 2: between Galvin and Crichton. Mc Galvin had a bit of
Speaker 2: a goal at Creator for that ball handling error when
Speaker 2: they were shifting to the left.
Speaker 1: I think I like that though. I like that from it.
Speaker 1: It might be a game organizer, but if you're going
Speaker 1: to be the half back and you throw and it
Speaker 1: was a fine pass, yes, Stephen crid has just made
Speaker 1: an error. You having the balls to go up to
Speaker 1: Creator and say what he said, whatever it was, we
Speaker 1: all saw the optics of it. I think that shows
Speaker 1: an everlution in Galvin's game because I think I don't
Speaker 1: remember if it was last year or the year before. Galvin,
Speaker 1: mister tackle and creator, has just blasted him. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, we're in a stage where
Speaker 1: if Locke is that main guy, if he is that
Speaker 1: number seven, then he has to be to do that.
Speaker 1: The only thing that's frustrating me about the Dogs at
Speaker 1: the moment he mentioned kicking game. You have one of
Speaker 1: the best kickers in the competitionary team in Matt Burden,
Speaker 1: who does not kick the ball. I know he's playing
Speaker 1: in the centers. BO see him do it in Origin
Speaker 1: and we were told when he moved to the centers
Speaker 1: that his kicking game would still be a part of
Speaker 1: their game plan. But it's been completely eradicated. He does
Speaker 1: not kick.
Speaker 2: Now he doesn't kick, but he hasn't really sort of
Speaker 2: kicked that. If you're talking about the big spiral bomb, don't.
Speaker 1: Have to be a big bomb. He's got the biggest
Speaker 1: boot on the team.
Speaker 2: Well, I think to what by the end of the game.
Speaker 2: I think he kicked once in the first half and
Speaker 2: then kicked on the last maybe three two, three times
Speaker 2: in the second half, but towards the end of the
Speaker 2: second half. But you're right. Overall, that weapon that he
Speaker 2: has has I don't not say nullified, but you know
Speaker 2: he has sort of put it in the back pocket.
Speaker 2: But that's not anything new, Like you know, Siro's sort
Speaker 2: of spoken about that. I think even as as far
Speaker 2: back as last year, I sort of remember him in
Speaker 2: particular the spiral bomb.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not a fan of the spiral bom.
Speaker 2: Putting it away. So look, I think something like the
Speaker 2: spiral bomb when you've got you know, you know the
Speaker 2: back three are shaky or a shakey fullback. You know,
Speaker 2: sometimes they're not expecting it to come from a center
Speaker 2: that's a last play option. They haven't. They should have
Speaker 2: gone to it a bit more against the Roosters than
Speaker 2: they didn't. But yeah, it's when you look at the
Speaker 2: playmakers they have. Fret is capable, Galvin's capable, But you're right,
Speaker 2: it's the kicking game where they're probably lacking the most.
Speaker 1: Now it's time for our BS Messages of the Week,
Speaker 1: and guys, we want to hear from you. If you
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Speaker 1: Now let's dive straight into it. We got Phil from
Speaker 1: Bunderberg and I quite like this one because it's been
Speaker 1: giving me. I'm not going to say what's been given me,
Speaker 1: but give me something for quite some time. How does
Speaker 1: it take five minutes to find a reason to rule
Speaker 1: out a try? Just give it and let us bloody celebrate, mate.
Speaker 1: I completely agree. I sat at Cogra last night on
Speaker 1: the hill, neutral fan. I'm not a fan of either team,
Speaker 1: and I watched them dissect if I think it was
Speaker 1: set to to his foot went over the sideline or
Speaker 1: not with five minutes to go. We've all got pair
Speaker 1: of we've all got a pair of eyes. We can
Speaker 1: all see. It doesn't take long. You can watch one
Speaker 1: replay and find out and then the insufficient evidence comes
Speaker 1: in and this and that the team of how do
Speaker 1: you find it? Because it does my head in.
Speaker 2: I feel like this year we are taking far more
Speaker 2: time to come to a decision on things. And I
Speaker 2: get that, but if we had the opposite where you know,
Speaker 2: tries were just being given and then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden they show a different replay and then there's you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just want, whether it's the referee or the bunker,
Speaker 2: to get it right as many times as possible.
Speaker 1: We I'll tell you this, Phil, just for your information.
Speaker 1: I was having a conversation with the Great Mitchell Pierce
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and he told me in France,
Speaker 1: where he's currently coaching at the moment, our five minutes
Speaker 1: is like twenty minutes over there, so we may have
Speaker 1: it lucky. I still don't like it. I'm with you there.
Speaker 1: Let's get rid of it. Let's be able to celebrate.
Speaker 1: I want to see the Tigers win games. I don't
Speaker 1: want to see you try to take it off the Tigers.
Speaker 1: Let's get into the next one. John from Illawan great area, Ellawong,
Speaker 1: what about the new Grand Final Week proposal? What do
Speaker 1: you guys think? Now, for those who don't know, there
Speaker 1: is a proposal to make Grand Final Week a bit
Speaker 1: more footy orientated. We'll get a couple more games. This
Speaker 1: talks of an all stars match, under twenty one match
Speaker 1: and a third v Fourth match. Now I'll start with
Speaker 1: a third v Fourth match for Tema. This comes off
Speaker 1: the back of the World Cup third place qualifier, sorry
Speaker 1: not third place qualifier. A third Place Metal whatever you
Speaker 1: call it, where France and England put on an absolute show.
Speaker 1: Both teams decided not to play defense and we saw
Speaker 1: a football match go to like five six goals a piece. Right,
Speaker 1: this doesn't work in rugby league. I think once your
Speaker 1: season is over, once you get knocked out, you do
Speaker 1: not want to go and play the third place. Boys
Speaker 1: want to go on Mad Monday. They want to celebrate.
Speaker 1: The season is long enough as it is already, and
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's it's it's concerning that we're getting
Speaker 1: to this stage because is it going to just be
Speaker 1: a game full of reserve grader? Is these clubs we
Speaker 1: heard there's a monetary thing. There's a monetary thing involved,
Speaker 1: but clubs don't need money.
Speaker 2: Isn't there a monetruy thing involved in the preseason Challenge?
Speaker 2: I mean, you know sometimes that in that final week
Speaker 2: of the preseason Challenge, we see the best, but you know,
Speaker 2: most of it it's forty man squads and the rest
Speaker 2: of it. And I get why they do that. It's
Speaker 2: to sort of give people a chance before round one.
Speaker 2: But that's the thing. Our season starts at the preseason Challenge.
Speaker 2: We've got Round one that's split into two weeks now
Speaker 2: because of Vegas. You know, you throw Origin in between that.
Speaker 2: Plus this year, this year is a World Cup year.
Speaker 2: The season's done, Like you said, it is long enough.
Speaker 2: Why do we need to play third v Fourth? So
Speaker 2: I don't hate the under twenty one's Origin.
Speaker 1: I don't like that because what are we going to
Speaker 1: have two under Origin game?
Speaker 2: Well, we've got under nineteens.
Speaker 1: Ah, yes, it's under nineteen twenty ones, but not.
Speaker 2: In Grand Final week. Like I wouldn't mind seeing another
Speaker 2: like Origin because the under nineteens is a one off. Right,
Speaker 2: We've got everything. It's great, but not at the end
Speaker 2: of the year. Or I think All Stars was the
Speaker 2: other one that was proposed. Maybe, but again it's one
Speaker 2: of those things that you're asking players potentially whose season
Speaker 2: had finished a few weeks before that, to then come
Speaker 2: back into camp. You know, I just yeah, let the
Speaker 2: players have a break. It really really is a long season,
Speaker 2: plus as well Cup this year. No, I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I'll say this, John, Let's let's let the players decide.
Speaker 1: I like what Fatima said. You know, let's let's see
Speaker 1: what the players want to do. It's all good for
Speaker 1: these clubs to have have ideas and whatnot. But I
Speaker 1: like that. Let's see what the players want to do
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