WEBVTT - #2081 Crapsules - Kate Save

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<v Speaker 1>A good a team. You're bloody champions. Welcome to another

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<v Speaker 1>installment of the Project About You. I've got two amazing

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<v Speaker 1>women on my screen, Tiffany and Cook over there at

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<v Speaker 1>typ Central, the life force, the blood that flows through

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<v Speaker 1>the typ veins, the heartbeat of the organization. And Kate.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your middle name, Kate Patricia?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you've told me that before, Kate Patricia said,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll start off with the boss, Tiffany and Cook.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Cookie, how are you good morning? I'm very good.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just telling Kate how much I'm loving the

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<v Speaker 2>sunshine now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, the sun is shining. The birds are fucking chirping,

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<v Speaker 1>and the bees are buzzing. And when I talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Harper every day, she's like, oh, it's a good

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<v Speaker 1>day up here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's warm.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you what, bloody. Oh shed My bones were

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<v Speaker 1>freezing the other day. You know my bones. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>were they Mary?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was bloody. You know. I had gloves and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, God, bless her a little angel. But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It's going to be like we're recording this

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday the sixth. It's going to be like forty

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<v Speaker 1>degrees tomorrow or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it's not gonna be killing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no, I'm keeping my little skin cancer prone

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<v Speaker 1>body out of the fucking uvs. Don't worry. I walk

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<v Speaker 1>down the street looking like a fucking covert operative doing

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking deep jungle surveillance mission. No, I realize that sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you walk across the road, you see

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in the window of a shop, I think, fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>I look I either look like the worst homeless person

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<v Speaker 1>because nothing to my shit matches no disrespect timeless people,

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<v Speaker 1>or I look like some kind of criminal, or like,

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<v Speaker 1>I look terrifying. So then I so then what I

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<v Speaker 1>do is to counteract the terror, I smile at people.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes it worse. They're like, oh my god, the

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<v Speaker 1>creepy sociopath. He's smiling. Now I'm really terrified. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit conflicted. If either of you have got

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<v Speaker 1>a solution, just let me know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a motorbike that really takes it up the next

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<v Speaker 2>level too.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. The motorbike is yeah, well, when I'm just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about walking out, yeah, if you're on the motorbike, one

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<v Speaker 1>of my motorbikes is I shouldn't say it, I won't

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<v Speaker 1>say it, but it's pretty fucking loud. Let's just say that,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to the RTA. And if I ride through

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of cars, which is you're allowed to do

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<v Speaker 1>when the cars are stopped at traffic lights, it's called

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<v Speaker 1>lane splitting. It's fair to say it sounds like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking tornado coming through, or a volcano or some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of earthquake coming through, and I just tinker through there.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's funny, Kate, We'll shut up. I'll shut up

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<v Speaker 1>after this is depending on which motorbike come on. If

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the little, tiny, little Weeni scooter, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a one point fifty, which wouldn't pull Nanna off the

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<v Speaker 1>bloody potty. It's got like four horse power. Sorry, we

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<v Speaker 1>just had a quick adjustment everyone. But anyway, depending on

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<v Speaker 1>what bike I'm on, people will either look at me

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<v Speaker 1>up and down like I'm some kind of vagrant, or

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely totally avoid my stare and just they will not

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<v Speaker 1>look at me or the bike. Or but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like that because I'm friendly. I'm like Humphrey Beer with

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<v Speaker 1>two wheels under me. But they don't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize how much fun motorbikes were. My girlfriend's

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<v Speaker 2>a cop and she took me on the back of

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<v Speaker 2>her motorbike. And I just thought, you know, just getting

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<v Speaker 2>on a motorbike like you did when you were sort

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<v Speaker 2>of kids, and I don't know. And I got on

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, it was terrifying. She's like, my

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<v Speaker 2>inner thigh muscles were squeezing her so tight that she

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<v Speaker 2>thought her body was going to go numb. She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you've stopped circulation to my lower body. Can you stop

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<v Speaker 2>squeezing me? Because I didn't want to grab her and

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<v Speaker 2>choke her, so I was just hanging on with my

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<v Speaker 2>legs for dear life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so funny. Well, you know, Tiffany Ankle has got

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<v Speaker 1>a very high power motorcycle theirself, do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>No, Okay, terrifying, join the crew. It's the betest fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a massive I was like, people do this

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<v Speaker 2>all day every day like that height. It's fun. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun, so scary. I'm glad it's loud

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<v Speaker 2>because then I feel like I'm less likely to get

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<v Speaker 2>hit by a car. The louder it is, the more

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<v Speaker 2>you hear it coming.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's interesting about And like I'd hate to

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<v Speaker 1>bring up psychology, but you know, it's me. What's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>is you can put someone on the back, they'll have

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<v Speaker 1>the best experience ever, and their body will be producing

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<v Speaker 1>all these great hormones and you know, their their heart

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<v Speaker 1>rate will be relatively low, and they'll be like, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>just be having the best time psychologically, emotionally and even physiologically,

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<v Speaker 1>just joy. And you could take someone else on the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same route, same speed, same everything, and they're on

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<v Speaker 1>the back having a fucking total meltdown, and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so interesting because I've had that before where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tinkering along with someone and I had somebody just

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<v Speaker 1>hit like basically hit me so hard. I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, pull over, Piliver, pilover, And we weren't doing anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and they got off and they wouldn't get back on,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like and they I mean, they were safe

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<v Speaker 1>or as safe as you can be with me, which

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<v Speaker 1>is relatively safe. But yeah, and it's like nothing had happened.

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<v Speaker 1>They were just they actually had started to have a

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<v Speaker 1>panic attack. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you have other

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<v Speaker 1>people who are like they've never been on we get home,

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<v Speaker 1>We've done a fifteen minute kid quick buzz around, we

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<v Speaker 1>get home and they're like, can we go again? It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like lunar park for free.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's so funny that it's like a roller coaster.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that individual psychological and emotional response to the

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<v Speaker 1>same stimulus. I find that shit fascinating, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>we're always talking about how reality is subjective. So for

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<v Speaker 1>one person it's literally terrifying, but the exact same thing

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<v Speaker 1>for someone else is just joyful. Think about that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>fucking it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unpredictable. I think that's a scary bit for me,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I will jump out of a plane. I've jumped

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<v Speaker 2>out with my own parachute, not with people with me,

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<v Speaker 2>and had to pull my own parachute. But I was

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<v Speaker 2>in control of it, and I knew where I was

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<v Speaker 2>going and it was down, and I knew what feet

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<v Speaker 2>I had to get to before I pulled the court

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<v Speaker 2>on the back of someone else's motorbike, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what's in front of me, I don't know what's coming

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<v Speaker 2>up and where we're going. And yeah, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was the unpredictability of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think firstly, it's hilarious that you think you're

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<v Speaker 1>totally in control with a parachute because you're fucking knowed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hilarious, you know, if you were exactly, But you're

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<v Speaker 1>much more in control than sitting on the back on

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<v Speaker 1>the back of somebody. I'm with you. I I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is hilarious, but I would not get on the

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<v Speaker 1>back of somebody's because I just don't trust people. I

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, which is probably arrogant, but I just know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I've never I shouldn't even say it, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>never had an accident. Nobody's ever been hurt on the

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<v Speaker 1>back with me, and I intend to keep it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, I'm quite particular about who

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<v Speaker 1>I let on the back. And somebody on this particular

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<v Speaker 1>show hadn't been on a motorbike for years and then

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<v Speaker 1>got on the back of one of mine and then

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<v Speaker 1>got off. And when that's it, I'm buying a motorbike

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<v Speaker 1>and literally within fucking five days had a motorbike.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Wow, yeah, the motorbike. I was like, I remember this,

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<v Speaker 2>that's wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. Then she went out and bought like a

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred and fifty cc fucking high performance Japanese fucking rocket.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, could you not have started off with

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like a scooter nut. Let's just go

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<v Speaker 1>for the formula one. Let's start that, all right. So

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<v Speaker 1>I know you want to talk about a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you one thing first, which is

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<v Speaker 1>unrelated to where we're going. I want to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you for a minute about fiber because somebody was telling

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<v Speaker 1>me today. A friend of mine who's doing a master's

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<v Speaker 1>in nutrition, said, I don't know about this, but like

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<v Speaker 1>they read that or somebody one of their lecturers had

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<v Speaker 1>said that, um, you should have fiber with every meal,

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<v Speaker 1>Like every time you have protein, you should have fiber.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas I will often have just something which is like

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<v Speaker 1>chicken skewers and a bit of peanut sauce, so there's

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<v Speaker 1>no really other than maybe a gram or two of

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<v Speaker 1>sugar in the peanut sauce maybe, but essentially just protein.

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<v Speaker 1>Most meals I would have both protein and carbs and fat.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts on fiber?

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<v Speaker 2>So your human body is outnumbered by bacterial cells one

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<v Speaker 2>point three to one when you are eating your protein

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<v Speaker 2>carbohydrating quickly processed foods, which is not in that meal

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<v Speaker 2>the proteins you know, slowly digesting food, but your gut.

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<v Speaker 2>Bacteria only eat fiber, so when you eat, you need

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<v Speaker 2>to feed the other half of your body, or what

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<v Speaker 2>is more than half of your body, So your bacteria

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<v Speaker 2>only feast on the things you don't digest. So you

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<v Speaker 2>are digesting that protein, you're going to digest the sugars,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to leave them something. So the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you said peanut sauce, if there's real peanuts in your peanuts,

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<v Speaker 2>peanuts still have fiber, so they would have got a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit tweet. But the reason why you want to

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<v Speaker 2>have fiber at each medal is because only fifty percent

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<v Speaker 2>or less than fifty percent of your body is human

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<v Speaker 2>cells that need to be fed. You actually need to

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<v Speaker 2>feed feed the trillions of bacteria in your body. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's not just bacteria, it's bacteria, fungi, viruses, all these

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<v Speaker 2>things that we live with in our body everywhere that

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<v Speaker 2>actually keep us alive, so we don't have them we die.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you saying I've got more bacterial cells than krag

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<v Speaker 1>cells in my body?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? And in terms of DNA, you have like one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred times or I can't remember the number, but many,

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<v Speaker 2>many multiples more DNA bacterial DNA. I think your human

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<v Speaker 2>DNA would fit in your big toe, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of your body would be bacterial DNA, so you

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<v Speaker 2>literally are your bacteria. So what's the role of bacteria.

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<v Speaker 2>It must have a functional symbiotic relationship, so that bacteria

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<v Speaker 2>talks to our brain. So the gut brain connection that

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<v Speaker 2>we all hear about and know about, it is telling

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<v Speaker 2>our body what to do, how to feel. The bacteria

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<v Speaker 2>are also processing certain nutrients, so from they make short

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<v Speaker 2>chained fatty acids. So short chained fatty acids can help

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<v Speaker 2>us with suppressing appetite, but they also reduce information. So

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<v Speaker 2>buerrate can help reduce information in the body. It can

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<v Speaker 2>fix help with the lining of the bowels, it can

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<v Speaker 2>reduce cancers. Basically, the gut microbiome and all the viruses,

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<v Speaker 2>all the things that are part of that. Now is

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<v Speaker 2>the thing we didn't know about. That is the everything now.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's the abyss. If anyone says they know

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<v Speaker 2>everything about it, we don't know anything really in comparison

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<v Speaker 2>of what there is to know. So it's like before

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<v Speaker 2>we knew we had DNA, if that makes sense, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like we only so it's the next thing that we're

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<v Speaker 2>learning about that's more important than we thought. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, last one and this is out of your wheelhouse,

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<v Speaker 1>so just take a stab. What about environmental germs and bacteria?

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like my instinct tells me that, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in the country, riding bikes in dirt

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<v Speaker 1>and riding through fucking forests and picking up frogs and

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<v Speaker 1>dog shits and whatever, right just like and washing my

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<v Speaker 1>hands every third day if I had to, if Mum

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<v Speaker 1>was watching, and nobody got sick or rarely like I

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<v Speaker 1>remember growing up like almost never getting a cold or

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<v Speaker 1>the flu or I don't know, I think that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we were normal. Of course I washed my hands and

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<v Speaker 1>showered every day, but there was just not this obsession

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<v Speaker 1>about absolute cleanliness and you know, washing your hands every

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen seconds. And do you think we've overdone it on

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<v Speaker 1>the environmental kind of impact of bacteria on our body?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, because dirt, like even a teaspoon of dirt as

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of thousands millions of bacteria, maybe even trillions of bacteria.

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<v Speaker 2>So bacteria is everywhere, and in the past we just

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<v Speaker 2>washed our hands if we, I don't know, had to

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<v Speaker 2>get dolpool off a boot or something like that, because

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<v Speaker 2>we thought that type of bacterial was bad for us,

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<v Speaker 2>but we didn't know some bacteria was good. So obviously

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<v Speaker 2>the bacteria that's in our environment, some of that is

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<v Speaker 2>good for us, and that bacteria also would be challenging

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<v Speaker 2>our immune system and building up immunity, and that they

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<v Speaker 2>talk about, you know, the reason why we have so

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<v Speaker 2>many more allergies to everything now purely because of this

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<v Speaker 2>hygiene and not being exposed to bacteria as well. So

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<v Speaker 2>you need to be exposed to some bacteria. But on

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<v Speaker 2>the flip side of that, there's a lot around bacteria

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<v Speaker 2>and birth. So if you get born through a vaginal canal,

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<v Speaker 2>you're coming in contact with lots of bacteria down there,

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<v Speaker 2>but also feces, and then that little baby is first

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<v Speaker 2>exposure to bacteria is at least the mother's bacteria, whereas

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<v Speaker 2>if the baby's born via a sea section, that bacteria

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<v Speaker 2>that they're being exposed to is hospital bacteria, which is

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<v Speaker 2>not good bacteria. So they believe it has a long

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<v Speaker 2>term effect on their overall health status for the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of their life. And it's not to mean that those

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<v Speaker 2>kids born via sea section will be less healthy. It

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<v Speaker 2>just means they have less exposure to the right sorts

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<v Speaker 2>of bacteria early on, so their immune system needs to

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<v Speaker 2>catch up. So they do things now like vaginal smears

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<v Speaker 2>after birth and just making sure the baby is cut

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<v Speaker 2>in you know, the mum's bacteria, or even the dads.

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<v Speaker 2>If the mum has to go for surgery, the dad

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<v Speaker 2>should be ripping off his clothes and exposing that baby

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<v Speaker 2>to the first bacteria they get, which is at least

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<v Speaker 2>one of the parents bacteria to start building up the microbiome.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the microbiome is built by the ages of sort

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<v Speaker 2>of two to five. You have everything that you need,

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<v Speaker 2>like your life is built on what happens in those

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<v Speaker 2>first couple of years alive. So you really want to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure you've been exposed to the right sorts of bacteria.

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<v Speaker 2>And they even say that pets share some of the microbome,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the bacteria with their owners. Wow, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's benefits to having a pet with that bacteria.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, TIFF's never going to get sick again because she's

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<v Speaker 1>always intertwined with her cat and her dog.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Although there is that thing that cats, what's that thing

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<v Speaker 1>that cats give their owners that sucks up their brain?

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<v Speaker 2>Top Oh yeah, yeah, Cat, I do know.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of It's like bacteria is like strength training for

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<v Speaker 1>your immune system. It's like it's like, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>go to the gym for the muscles and you go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>smear some bacteria on you. That sounds disgusting, but fuck

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<v Speaker 1>it for your immune system. All right, So that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for answering that question. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>The last part of that would be the fecal transplants.

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<v Speaker 2>When you start to think about that, you would have

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<v Speaker 2>heard about that. You get someone else when you either

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<v Speaker 2>take a crapsule or you use an anima and get

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<v Speaker 2>it up there.

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<v Speaker 3>The rapture a craptal Oh fuck, I don't recommend that

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<v Speaker 3>because you don't know what's in it, but hey, that

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<v Speaker 3>is a way of getting the bacteria in other than

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<v Speaker 3>nanama or a camera insertion by surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>Any show where we use the term crapsual, I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>as fuck tell people, just so, just quickly, what is

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<v Speaker 1>the alleged science behind putting somebody's poo up your betom

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<v Speaker 1>to join your poo or that to have it that region.

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<v Speaker 2>So there is really good clinical trials and evidence and

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<v Speaker 2>procedures happening all around the world as we speak now.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the treatments for I think it's seed difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the bacteria that destroys the gut lining that causes

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<v Speaker 2>ulcerated collidis. If you get someone who's got a healthy

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<v Speaker 2>gut and you get their pooh and put it into

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<v Speaker 2>someone with an unhealthy gut, they saw results in some

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<v Speaker 2>of these studies. I've seen just within sort of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four to forty eight hours that a completely ulcerated pussy

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<v Speaker 2>bleeding bow could start to repair and recover.

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<v Speaker 1>There's how new are There's Tiff and I'm both nearly

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<v Speaker 1>heaving into the vakan the bucket. That's there's the title

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<v Speaker 1>of the pussy heaving ulcerated bow and Hey, everyone, hope

0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:05.280
<v Speaker 1>you're enjoying your tart. It's not block say that again.

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<v Speaker 1>So so it basically healed them in a short.

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<v Speaker 2>In a very short amount of time. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>in conditions for people that medications don't work. They any

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<v Speaker 2>other treatment they've tried, They've just got this chronic inflammation.

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<v Speaker 2>So the inflammation is cured by the healthy bacteria that's

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<v Speaker 2>located in the feces of someone else. And the first

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<v Speaker 2>sort of Australian trial on this. It actually made it

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<v Speaker 2>to TV almost It must have been a decade ago

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<v Speaker 2>alonger I think was a I think a father donated

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<v Speaker 2>it to his either son or daughter or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was the first kind of you know, public

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<v Speaker 2>show of how this all worked.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no, it does seem. I think. What's interesting is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the idea of some of these things are

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<v Speaker 1>almost like psychologically repellent. If not, they are right, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, if it works, it's like, yeah, would

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<v Speaker 1>I do it? If I was sick and you go,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to do fuck up? I wouldn't even think

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<v Speaker 1>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, have you done your microbome test? Do you know

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<v Speaker 2>if you have healthy poo?

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<v Speaker 1>No? No, But what I'll do is I'll come down

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<v Speaker 1>to your joint and bring a little spatchul before.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome, I'll send it off for you and we

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<v Speaker 2>can have it tested.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Oh my god, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>That was what I want to talk to you about today.

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<v Speaker 1>Well can we can we go there in one sec?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to because I'm so excited you're here. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, Like one of my problems at the

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<v Speaker 1>moment is I'm when I'm out, I'm always listening to

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<v Speaker 1>somebody smart talking right, obviously not me, but and I

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<v Speaker 1>was listening to these two smart dudes. I won't. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter who they're talking about. Metabolic psychiatry. Have you

0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:02.440
<v Speaker 1>ever have you heard that term? Yes, I'm like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, this and I did ten minutes of research right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh fuck, I can't. This is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go down this rabbit hole for a

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<v Speaker 1>month and forget my PhD that's due next Friday. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to shut this fucking door. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is the problem. There's so much incredible research, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's also lots of shit research, but there are so

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<v Speaker 1>many potential therapies and treatments and protocols that are emerging.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, but then at the same time, you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to five experts talk about one topic, you get

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<v Speaker 1>five variations, if not five, completely different fucking ideas. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so and so basically what they're doing, correct me if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong, you might know more than me. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>treating people with psychiatric disordered, psychological and mental issues with

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<v Speaker 1>food with food and getting fucking incredible results. Now that's

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<v Speaker 1>not say get off your medication. It's just to say

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<v Speaker 1>that some of the research is proving to be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>where he was talking. This guy was talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>patient who was on fifteen medications and got off all

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<v Speaker 1>the medications within four weeks and with zero medication and

0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:22.959
<v Speaker 1>a good diet, had pretty much no symptoms. Now, of course, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a recommendation. That's just what I heard on

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast this morning. But that's what made me come

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<v Speaker 1>home and go, is this bullshit? Or is this because

0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:36.320
<v Speaker 1>that again you hear things that aren't true. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's take it for a I'm going to once

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<v Speaker 1>I'm finished all my shit, I'm going to do a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a deep dive into the research just

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<v Speaker 1>for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you interviewed Professor Flies Jaka?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't the Food and Mood Center from Deacon University.

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<v Speaker 2>So she founded one of the most well known studies

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<v Speaker 2>in the world exactly what you're talking about. And it

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<v Speaker 2>was in twenty fourteen, I think it was published, and

0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:13.920
<v Speaker 2>it was the first randomized control trial in I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if it's the first in the world. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>most well known and most well spoken about one where

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<v Speaker 2>people either received counseling or a change of diet and

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<v Speaker 2>seeing a dietitian. And the people that got the counseling

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<v Speaker 2>improved their major depression anxiety by seven percent. The people

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<v Speaker 2>that went on the Mediterranean diet and saw a dietitian

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<v Speaker 2>improved their major depression anxiety by thirty four or thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six percent, so five times greater. Yet this has happened

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<v Speaker 2>over a decade ago, and we're still like, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>all know about this. We're not using that as first

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<v Speaker 2>line therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>Diet simple yeah, I mean, and again everyone, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>advocating anything, we're just talking. But there would seemed to be, uh,

0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, financial incentives for some organizations not to have

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:09.720
<v Speaker 1>this information out there. All right, So now, Kate, you

0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:14.200
<v Speaker 1>reached out as because you wanted to chat today, and

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for reaching out. Your you've been elevated to

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<v Speaker 1>elevated to unpaid unpaid resident nutritional gurus.

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<v Speaker 2>You had some testing done or have you got some results?

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<v Speaker 1>And you I think you wanted to chat about why

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:35.680
<v Speaker 1>we are so reactive rather than proactive at times when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to our health.

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<v Speaker 2>You have just done the perfect introduction though you've literally

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<v Speaker 2>joined all of the pieces from fiber to the gut,

0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 2>microbiome to mental health and why are we going for

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:52.640
<v Speaker 2>drugs before food? This is the whole conversation. People are

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<v Speaker 2>talking about their news resolutions and all the things they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do, and I just think the first thing

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:05.280
<v Speaker 2>that's important for people to sort of understand is where

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 2>the health is at now, because then they can take

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:10.959
<v Speaker 2>the right actions and the ones that will mean the

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<v Speaker 2>most to make sure that whatever they're doing is actually

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<v Speaker 2>preventative or maintaining. You know, people avoid things that are hard,

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:24.719
<v Speaker 2>and things that are hard are probably the things they

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:27.400
<v Speaker 2>should be doing the most right. So there's no point

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<v Speaker 2>if you're amazing at strength training and you're really really strong,

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to lift more and more weights, Well that's

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:35.080
<v Speaker 2>not going to help you. You probably bloody need and

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:37.479
<v Speaker 2>run on do some cardio, or do some hit training,

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:40.920
<v Speaker 2>or do a four by four Norwegian cycle thing or

0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 2>whatever you do. So I think it would be good

0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 2>for people to think about what is the hardest thing,

0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 2>not what the thing they want to do is, because

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:52.160
<v Speaker 2>that's probably what they need the most. And do they

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:55.639
<v Speaker 2>have any testing or foundations around their health to show

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:57.920
<v Speaker 2>them where are you going to get the most benefit.

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<v Speaker 2>And this all came to me because I went, I

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 2>order all of my own medical tests. I've got lots

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 2>of medical people in my community. Some are very pro

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:15.919
<v Speaker 2>having preventative tests done, for example, MRIs. For no fricking reason,

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to know. One day, I thought, oh,

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:22.119
<v Speaker 2>my knees catching. I don't have sore knees. I run

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:24.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the time, and I thought, I want

0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 2>to have an MRI on my knees. Like why not, Well,

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 2>you don't need it. It doesn't matter if I need

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:30.440
<v Speaker 2>it or not. I want to know. So I went

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:34.119
<v Speaker 2>and had that done. Guess what stage four cartilage damage

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:40.199
<v Speaker 2>and Baker's cysts and pteleomel tracking. And the clinician that

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<v Speaker 2>read my report went, if I just read the report

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<v Speaker 2>without seeing you sitting in front of me, I would

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<v Speaker 2>think you couldn't get out of a chair right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, and the start of osteoarthritis. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew it. I got my rheumatoid factor tested a

0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.919
<v Speaker 2>couple of years ago, and it's supposed to be un

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<v Speaker 2>to ten or something like that, and it was like seventeen.

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:05.360
<v Speaker 2>They're like that's normal. I'm like, no, why is that

0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:08.359
<v Speaker 2>above this range? And then I got it tested again

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 2>and it was forty something, tested again fifty something. I'm like,

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 2>something is going on in my body, and I want

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:16.439
<v Speaker 2>to know what it is because if there's something I

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:19.400
<v Speaker 2>can do about it, I want to stop it. And

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 2>this for some people would cause fear or anxiety or

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 2>whatever else and they don't want to know and they

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:29.000
<v Speaker 2>don't want to have testing. I get that, but my

0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 2>mom died of no known cause, and I don't want

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 2>to leave my kids behind without knowing there was something

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:41.360
<v Speaker 2>maybe I could have done, like autopsies, coronics reports no

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 2>known cause after three months of testing. If there's something

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:49.679
<v Speaker 2>that's going to happen, I'd rather know and go. You

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 2>know what, guys, we're not going to work tomorrow. Are

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 2>we going to live it up and have our best life? Well,

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:57.120
<v Speaker 2>live it up every day, but why not know where

0:26:57.160 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 2>your health is at? And I'm annoyed that I'm stage

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:04.199
<v Speaker 2>four cartilage damage with no pain, no effects or anything

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 2>like that. If there's something I could have done differently

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 2>to prevent that, And that's just the start of all

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 2>these things. I mean, gut microbome testing. So as I

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 2>was saying, if anyone's out there wanting to know is

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 2>do they have healthy poo and what can you do

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>about it? I had my first test done in twenty

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 2>two and I had really poor gut microbiome health. I

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:30.160
<v Speaker 2>was under fifty percent, you know, one hundred percent obviously

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 2>the best, and I thought, as a dietitian, how do

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 2>I have poor gut health. I then changed what I

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 2>was doing and I got to ninety five percent, so

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:43.160
<v Speaker 2>really really good by knowing what was going on and

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 2>being able to do something about it.

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 4>Okay, hang on, so what were you having and doing

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 4>at when you were fifty percent and what did you

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 4>change and how did you get to ninety five percent.

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I was actually having enough fiber. I'm

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 2>aware of fiber, and I eat fiber, and I ate

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:06.360
<v Speaker 2>fruit and veggies, but I wasn't having it at every meal,

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 2>and I probably wasn't having a lot of it during

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 2>the day. So fiber was my number one thing, and

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:13.640
<v Speaker 2>I am a bit of a low carbeat it too,

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 2>So I just made sure even if I had a

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 2>protein like a yogurt or a custard or anything like that,

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:23.119
<v Speaker 2>I just loaded it up with some alisa or flax

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:27.239
<v Speaker 2>seed meal or some chea seeds, put some fruit in it,

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 2>like added more carbs, but fiber rich carbs to my

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:33.880
<v Speaker 2>diet every single day. And you know in a salad

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 2>like put a bit of sour kraut fore your gut

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 2>microbiome and fermented foods, put olives in anything that's going

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 2>to add good bacteria, or you know, functional foods that

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 2>have got probiotics in them, or even a probiotics which

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 2>are the fibrous things that feed that bacteria. So literally,

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 2>in a year, I went from being below fifty percent

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 2>to ninety five percent. Had it checked a year later,

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 2>it's still ninety five percent. But if I didn't, no,

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I would have thought I was doing doing pretty good.

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's so interesting. So here's my working theory on

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 1>why people don't get testing done in no particular order.

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 1>One it can be expensive. I don't think that's the

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>main reason. Two ignorance, I don't think that's the main reason,

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>but I think they're both factors. Three fear. I think

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>people generally, when it comes to their health, they are

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>more emotion emotionally driven than critically thinking about where they are,

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>what's going on, what's working, what's not working. What's my

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 1>body telling me, what's the bio feedback telling me? You know,

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I think we should all myself included, I should probably

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>do more. But yeah, I think the fact that we

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>are scared of what the test is going to say.

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 1>On a really funny, much lower level of this, I

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>reckon twenty percent of my clients, for thirty percent of

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>my clients over the years when my job was personal

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 1>training and we would do I would do body composition

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 1>testing on people, and we would weigh them, and of

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>course we realize the limitations of taking someone's weight, and

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 1>we get all of that, but at the same time

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a factor. But at least twenty maybe thirty percent

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 1>of my clients would not want to know what they weighed,

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and they would get severe anxiety about having to stand

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 1>on scales. And I would say, there are a lot

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:35.719
<v Speaker 1>of variables and a lot of determinants and factors. This

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 1>is one. It's not a big deal. I'm just doing

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>it because I just want to track some data and

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>see what's going on. Same with your body compositions, same

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 1>with your blood pressure, same with your upper and lower

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>body strength, Same with your votwo max or submax. You know,

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 1>it's all just testing that we're doing right. But so

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>many people would be so scared of finding out the

0:30:57.200 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>truth they would rather like live in La la land.

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Then go oh shit, Well I'm pre diabetic, so I'm

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 1>going to make some decisions, do some things, and implement

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>some changes which will take me out of that hopefully.

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 1>But I just think for a lot of people it's

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>just fear and anxiety. And I think in general, when

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>it comes to managing our body and even managing our food,

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 1>we're more emotional than we are logical.

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 2>You're so right. And the heart thing I guess though,

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 2>is someone who has pre diabetes has the start of

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 2>heart disease, whether they want to acknowledge that or not.

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 2>So that means right now you are choosing how long

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 2>you want to live, because if your heart gives up,

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 2>it's all over. So that decision of changing the diet

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 2>or exercising or not doing it. Once you have pre diabetes,

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 2>you're actually making decisions about heart disease, and you're making

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 2>decisions about dementia and Alzheimer's. Do you want to forget

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 2>your own children's name because already linked diabetes or they

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 2>call type three diabetes? Elseimon demension. So I think if

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 2>you don't know, then you can put your head in

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 2>the sand. But you need to take responsibility for your

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 2>own health because it's nobody else's problem. It's actually your problem.

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 2>And I find it quite selfish when people don't want

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 2>to know, and they're a part of a family and

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 2>we all have responsibility in a family, but they're not

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 2>taking responsibility for their own health. Nobody else can change

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 2>their decisions or clean up their health, and they're the

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 2>one who's going to be the burden, you know what

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean. Like if you say to your partner, are

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 2>you happy to push me around in a wheelchair because

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to lose my legs because I'm going to

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 2>ignore my diabetes, you know what I mean? Or you're

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 2>going to nurse me because of my heart condition because

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to have a test on my heart

0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 2>because I think I don't have good heart health. I

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 2>think you know, we're pass that time where it should

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:07.719
<v Speaker 2>be a surprise. The testing is available, the treatments are available,

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 2>we know what we need to be doing. You should

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 2>know where you're at because then you know how severe

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 2>that decision is. The way to that decision, should you

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 2>be so stressed at work, eat crap, work long hours.

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 2>If you're on the verge of a heart attack, if

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 2>you knew on the verge of a heart attack, would

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 2>you choose to have the heart attack or would you

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 2>choose to maybe go for a walk at lunch and

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 2>pick up a salad instead of eating the pie downstairs.

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and look, everything you're saying I agree with, and

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:42.959
<v Speaker 1>it's true. But the other swing of the pendulum is,

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 1>like I said, people are very emotional and defensive, and

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>that it's hard to talk to people who don't want

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>to be spoken to about it. And so you know,

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like I've had hard conversations with friends that I

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:06.959
<v Speaker 1>love that have literally been reducing their lifespan at an

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:11.280
<v Speaker 1>accelerated rate through their behavior, through their choices and behavior

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and lifestyle. And what I generally do is I go,

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do this once and a few of

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>them I've said too, I want to have a talk

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:22.719
<v Speaker 1>with you just because I love you. You might not

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 1>want to talk to me after this, that's okay. But

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:28.280
<v Speaker 1>here's what I want to tell you. I'm not picking

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 1>on you. It's not my intention anyway. I'm not picking

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 1>on you. I'm not criticizing you. I want you to

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>live a long and healthy and functional and happy life,

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 1>and I have knowledge and understanding and experience that can help.

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 1>So that's where I'm coming from. And then I tell

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 1>them and sometimes it's well received and sometimes not, and

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:55.799
<v Speaker 1>sometimes they operationalize it and sometimes not. But it is

0:34:56.520 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 1>difficult because like most people, I don't think like Kate Save.

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>They don't and that's okay. And most people don't think

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 1>like Tif Cook or Craig Harper, and we're not better

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.879
<v Speaker 1>than anyone else, but you know, the only person who

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 1>thinks like me completely is me, And so we look

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 1>through like I look through my lens at someone else's

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 1>behavior and I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:23.280
<v Speaker 1>But to them it's totally normal. So this is the challenge.

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Is like, even with conversations and messaging like this, we

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 1>might be clinically and medically and scientifically right in inverted commas,

0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 1>but I guarantee you someone's listening to this right now

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>getting pissed off at you. Right I guarantee you that

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 1>someone right now hearing this is a bit fucked off

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>because you don't fucking understand Kate Save. And it's all

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 1>right for you, you're fucking skinny, blonde, blah blah blah. Right,

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:56.719
<v Speaker 1>that's that's true. That's true. And I understand them, and

0:35:56.760 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 1>I understand that. And this is why all of this

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff is so fucking complicated. And on a level it's

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 1>simple theoretically, it's simple. Practically, in the real world, away

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:18.799
<v Speaker 1>from the theory, it's anything but simple, so fucking complicated, absolutely.

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 2>And I David, who's got Advara Hartcare. He's a cardiologist

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 2>friend of mine, huge cardiology practice, And the way he

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:34.359
<v Speaker 2>presented it to me was he decided that he was

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 2>sick of only meeting people after the event. And they,

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:41.800
<v Speaker 2>every single one of them, none of them said I

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 2>wish this happened to me. They all said I wish

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 2>there was something I could have done. I wish I

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 2>knew right, And he's like, his whole practice is built

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 2>on preventative health. Now he goes, I want to be

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 2>meeting you before you've fallen off the cliff. I don't

0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:59.839
<v Speaker 2>want to be cleaning up your messy body at the bob,

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 2>so come and see me before that. And I think

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 2>this is where this episode felt so important. At the

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 2>start of the year, people are probably less angry at

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 2>me right now. If I'm telling them to go and

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.840
<v Speaker 2>have a freakin' of free heart check, get David on

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:18.279
<v Speaker 2>your show. He will offer everyone a free heart check.

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:24.479
<v Speaker 2>I guarantee it. And that is the most important thing

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 2>that anybody that you care about should do, because the

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 2>last thing you want to be doing, and you've had

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 2>to resuscitate a friend, is you know, lose someone that

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 2>you love for something that is completely preventable. And this

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 2>came to my mind well when I booked to do

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:44.319
<v Speaker 2>this podcast with you, because a colleague at worked with

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 2>me said her and her husband just went to the

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 2>GPGP was doing the wife's pressure and the husband said,

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:53.360
<v Speaker 2>do mine too, got he's checked. It was so high

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 2>and then the doctor booked him in an ambulance. They

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:58.279
<v Speaker 2>took him to hospital. He had no symptoms. Had a

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:04.760
<v Speaker 2>triple cardiac bypath five weeks ago. Baho symptoms. We shouldn't

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 2>be here in forties forties.

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Wow, you know.

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 2>And the interesting thing is sometimes the first symptom is death. Yeah,

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 2>and males in their forties is the most common time

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 2>for that. Under fifty for that early death. I'm not

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.279
<v Speaker 2>the expert here, but very happy to put you on

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 2>to David. I know, you know lots of cardiologists, but

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:30.720
<v Speaker 2>I think he's specifically about prevention. Is sick of seeing

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 2>them when it's too late, because there were a million

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:33.880
<v Speaker 2>things you could do.

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>All right, So let's let's now kind of move towards

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:47.800
<v Speaker 1>a potential solution of sorts. So if somebody's like, okay,

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 1>this makes sense, I'm a little bit scared. I'm a

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 1>bit nervous. Firstly, we got you, we get it, we

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.279
<v Speaker 1>get it. It took me quite a while to do

0:38:57.320 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the protest and send it off. It was a bit

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:04.400
<v Speaker 1>fuck nervous, right, quite a while to do the prostate

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 1>fuck all that. I'm like, oh, for sure, I've gone

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:11.239
<v Speaker 1>this and I've got that. I was sick about four

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 1>or five months ago, tiff nos because I for about

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 1>six months I was I had fucking zero energy, and

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I was just pretending I had energy, and I had

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 1>all of these myriad of symptoms, and yeah, I'm a

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:27.240
<v Speaker 1>big baby, so I put off. I'm like, oh, fucking

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>jog it out. It's just this. It wasn't and I

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:32.240
<v Speaker 1>knew it wasn't. But anyway, it turns out I had

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 1>a an infection that had just been fucking me up

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 1>for a long time, but even even me in inverted

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<v Speaker 1>commas like you know. But okay, so somebody's thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I want to start to turn this ship

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<v Speaker 1>around in the right direction. I don't want to reinvent

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<v Speaker 1>myself by tomorrow. I don't want to make a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>changes that I will not sustain. What's a good stepping off?

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, remember everyone, there's no you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no universal plan that works the same for everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>But where should we think about starting k Go and

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<v Speaker 2>speak to your GP. Say this year is the year

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<v Speaker 2>that I want to learn about my health and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to improve my health. Give me a full test

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<v Speaker 2>for everything. I want everything. I want all my bloods done.

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 2>I want to you know, give it. Refer me to

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<v Speaker 2>someone to do a heart care check for me, Refer

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<v Speaker 2>me for diabetes check. What else can I have done?

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<v Speaker 2>And if there's anything that you felt change in your body,

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<v Speaker 2>If things change in your body, there is something wrong

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<v Speaker 2>that is a symptom. You need to speak about these

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:49.720
<v Speaker 2>changes in your body because people will always say, oh, yeah,

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 2>about six months ago, I did notice this lump or

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 2>this and that, but they never did anything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I did that with the melanoma. I noticed a

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<v Speaker 2>freckle that I took a photo of and in an app.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is like many years ago, and the app

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<v Speaker 2>said high risk. I did nothing about it, and it

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<v Speaker 2>gave me a weekly alert for fifty two weeks, and

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<v Speaker 2>still like I stopped paying for the app. And then

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 2>I went to the skin cancer place and I went,

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<v Speaker 2>this stupid app thinks I've got a high risk thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Can someone look at it? They looked at it and

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<v Speaker 2>said we're going to biopsy it. I had two kids

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<v Speaker 2>with me that were supposed to be going to swimming lessons.

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm going to have to come back at

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<v Speaker 2>six o'clock and they biopsied it. A week later, I

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<v Speaker 2>found out it was a melanoma, but it was only

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<v Speaker 2>stage one, thank Kevin's. So I just think, if something

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<v Speaker 2>changes in your body, no matter what it is my

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<v Speaker 2>miggling knee stage four cart vilage damage, I had a

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<v Speaker 2>change in my mental health. I felt less resilient and

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<v Speaker 2>it's happened to me twice. And what I mean by

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<v Speaker 2>that is I felt like in the past, if someone

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<v Speaker 2>fought me over something or told me I wasn't good

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<v Speaker 2>enough for this or that, I would do it anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was losing the will to fight back. And

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<v Speaker 2>when had a blood test, I've twice had clinical zinc deficiency,

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<v Speaker 2>which severely deteriorates your brain functioning and your mental health.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, wow, And that's the thing about and a zinc.

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<v Speaker 2>I popped a pill and I was better. No one

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<v Speaker 2>can hurt me.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck, that's amazing. I wonder what my zinc is. That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Zinc is a really interesting one for men because you

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<v Speaker 2>need it for testosterone and if you testosterone levels, let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about hormones. Females get their hormones checked. Males should

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<v Speaker 2>be getting their hormones checked too. And if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have enough zinc, then you won't make good testosterone. If

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have good testosterone, you won't build muscle well,

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<v Speaker 2>and your moods won't be stable and all those sorts

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<v Speaker 2>of things. So men need to have hormone tests too.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this is not for anyone except me, So don't

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<v Speaker 1>pay any attention to what Kate says to me. Now, everyone, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>fingers in your ears, don't listen. How much zinc should

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<v Speaker 1>I take each day?

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<v Speaker 2>Kate? You should test before you take zinc so don't

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<v Speaker 2>start supplements without finding out what your levels are first.

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<v Speaker 1>What's a typical dose? Let me ask a better question,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Were taking a multi vitamin, it will have zinc in it.

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<v Speaker 2>In small amounts. It might give you fifty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>your recommended dietary intake or twenty five percent of your

0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 2>recommended dietary intake. It's pretty low, but if you have

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<v Speaker 2>clinical zinc deficiency, you need really high levels to top

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<v Speaker 2>you up. But you do not want to take higher

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:37.319
<v Speaker 2>levels if you're not low, because it will stop the

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<v Speaker 2>absorption of other nutrients. Minerals all clash with each other

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<v Speaker 2>in the body, So if you start supplementing something without

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<v Speaker 2>counteracting it, you'll end up with another deficiency that use

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<v Speaker 2>cause by taking the wrong thing. So get check first.

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<v Speaker 2>Find out where you're at. Food wire, zinc is really

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<v Speaker 2>high in oysters, That's why they say they're good for

0:43:57.840 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 2>libido and whatever else. It's hie in nuts and seeds,

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<v Speaker 2>certain nuts and seeds. It's in meat, it's in eggs,

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 2>it's in most animal based products. It is nuts and

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 2>seeds which are plant based as well. But how well

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<v Speaker 2>do you absorb it? So you need good levels of

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 2>hydrochloric acid it gets you know, it depends on how

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<v Speaker 2>your gut functions and what your acid levels are like

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<v Speaker 2>in your gut, and genetically genetically, because I've had all

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<v Speaker 2>my genetic tests done as well. I don't absorb bever

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<v Speaker 2>vitamin as well. I don't methylate vitamins, So if I

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<v Speaker 2>take FOLL eight or bet well, it needs to be

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:39.800
<v Speaker 2>methylated folate or bet well otherwise it's poisoned. So thirty

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<v Speaker 2>percent of people have the mt hfr gene, which means

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<v Speaker 2>they can't process synthetic folate, which means it's poisonous to them.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's in all of our fortified breads and cereals

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<v Speaker 2>as well, So you'd want to know if you've got

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:58.000
<v Speaker 2>that gene because you shouldn't be taking that type of vitamin.

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<v Speaker 2>Your regular multi vitamin won't be methylated and it won't

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<v Speaker 2>work for you. It actually build up in your system.

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<v Speaker 2>So happy blood tests done before you start supplementing and

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<v Speaker 2>have them interpreted by someone who knows what they're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, well they we're all fucking terrified because of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't I can plate foll eate and B twelve And

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<v Speaker 2>this is particularly an issue for people that are supplementing

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<v Speaker 2>fall late because they're trying to get pregnant. Find out

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<v Speaker 2>if you need methylated full late.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Once you start googling this, it's everywhere. Anyone who's ever

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 2>looked it up will know it inside out because once

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<v Speaker 2>you see it, you can't unsee it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Tiff might be having the first typ baby in

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<v Speaker 1>the next year or so, So Tiff, you take that

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<v Speaker 1>on board. Did you know Tif's got a boy on

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<v Speaker 1>the go? No, like it like an actual grown up.

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<v Speaker 2>No, hopefully he's got plenty of zinc.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, lets plenty of lettin the metaphoric pencil. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>stop it, stop every show. I just get her just

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<v Speaker 1>with a zinger, just a thirty second zinger.

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<v Speaker 2>Kate, tell people how they can.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, tell people how they can connect with you and

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<v Speaker 1>find you and follow you.

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<v Speaker 2>They can find me on Instagram, Kate say, if they

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<v Speaker 2>can find me on LinkedIn and then beef it through

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<v Speaker 2>Australia as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect, Thanks Tiff. Any questions or additions or subtractions.

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<v Speaker 2>No questions here, No questions you, thank you, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>To see nothing to see over here except she would

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<v Speaker 1>like to delete the last comment and she's editing it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you may well not hear it. If you hear this,

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<v Speaker 1>just know that I said something fucking hilarious about sixty

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<v Speaker 1>seconds ago. Thanks everyone, Bye,