1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Christinamiot. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: It's Monday, November eleventh. Anthony Albanesi's personal approval ratings have 3 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: hit a new low. According to new data from Newspoll, 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: the leadership contest between the PM and Opposition leader Peter 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: Dutton is the closest it's ever been, as primary support 6 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: for the Coalition lifts to forty percent for the first time. 7 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: You can read analysis of those new numbers by our 8 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: experts right now at the Australian dot com dot au. 9 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: Jim Chalmers says any isolationist policy agenda enacted by US 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: President elect Donald Trump wouldn't immediately threaten Australia's economy, but 11 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: in a speech to the Australian Institute of Public Affairs tonight, 12 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: the Treasurer says he is remaining cautious of a longer 13 00:00:55,320 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: term tariff war between the United States and China. Christmas 14 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: year could be in short supply this year if a 15 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: bargaining dispute between Woolworths and the union representing thousands of 16 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: its warehouse workers goes south. There's a pay rise on 17 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: their wish list and they're threatening to walk off the 18 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: job if the supermarket Giant doesn't deliver. That's today's episode. 19 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: There are just six fridays between now and Christmas Day, 20 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: or forty four sleeps or about two advent calendars, however 21 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: you slice it. Christmas Day is close and when it 22 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: rolls around, Australians around the country will sit down with 23 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: their loved ones to celebrate in our unique style. There'll 24 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: be presents and carols and Christmas Morning swims at the beach. 25 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: Lights and decorations will adorn homes and malls and main 26 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: streets the country. There'll be paper hats and Christmas crackers 27 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: and collective groans at the dad jokes. Contained inside, they'll 28 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: be prawns and Christmas hams and fresh zingy salads. Right, 29 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: maybe not. The distribution network relied upon by Woolworths is 30 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: facing significant disruption in these all important weeks before Christmas. 31 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: It's warehouse workers say they're not being paid a fair 32 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: wage and they're prepared to walk off the job if 33 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: the supermarket giant doesn't come to the table with a 34 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: better offer. 35 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: Now, if that was to occur, the union says that 36 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: would cause massive disruption to the delivery of goods. The supermarkets, 37 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: so there would be delays in the boxes of goods 38 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 2: being put on trucks and being sent out for the 39 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: different supermarkets, so that would potentially lead to shortages. 40 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: The union says you and Hannon is the Australian's Workplace Editor. 41 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: All escalating our bargains with the United Workers Union, whose 42 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: members work at four key distribution centers in Victoria and 43 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: New South Wales. The bargaining has been going on for 44 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: some time. The unions essentially want above inflation pay rises 45 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: over the next three years. In some cases the combined 46 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: increases would be as high as thirty six percent. The 47 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: company in response, this is the distribution arm of Woolworths 48 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: Primary connect They are proposing pay rises of about three 49 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: and three and a half percent a year, which should 50 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: be roughly inligned with inflation. There are two other key 51 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: issues in dispute the distribution centers workers there are covered 52 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: by a range of different enterprise agreements. The union once 53 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: the workers all brought into one national agreement. The thirty 54 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: issue is a contentious one in relation to a so 55 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: called framework agreement, which is a surveillance operation that works 56 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: on distribution warehouse workers where their work is monitored, but 57 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: the union and the workforce argues that this puts the 58 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: employers under too much pressure and increases the risks of 59 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: safety accidents and potential injuries, and the union ones that's 60 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: scrapped entirely. 61 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: The lead up to Christmas is a critical time of 62 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: year for Woollies. The supermarket chain needs to dramatically increase 63 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: supply and make a huge number of specialty items available 64 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: in order to meet shoper demand over the silly season. 65 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: But when members of the United Workers Union met last week, 66 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: they endorsed strike action that could include indefinite stoppages, and 67 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: that means up to five million boxes of Christmas ham 68 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: crackers and seafood could be in short supply. 69 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 2: The company says it's put contingency plans in place to 70 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: start stop piling and get supplies from other areas and 71 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: also divert supplies from other distribus incentives. So obviously both 72 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 2: sides are saying it'll have a particular impact, but we 73 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: n't know until the actual form of the action is known, 74 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: But certainly it would be an uncertain time for the 75 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: company going into this critical Christmas period, both for consumers 76 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: and both for the company's operations. 77 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: When unions threaten to take this kind of industrial action, 78 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 1: they usually need to give three days notice, but given 79 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: what's at stake here, the notice period has increased to 80 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: seven days, and that means workers could walk off the 81 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: job as soon as Friday. The United Workers Union is 82 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: putting pressure on Woolworths to bump up its payofer, but 83 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: Woolley says its current offer is in line with inflation. Basically, 84 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: it's a standoff. 85 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: So what happens next is the meetings will occur on Tuesday, 86 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: the workers will flag the next round of action or 87 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: will probably be an escalation of the action. Now, if 88 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 2: Wulworth stands firm and doesn't lift it softwer, that's going 89 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: to increase the likelihood of action. But if the company 90 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: does come back with a higher offer, which probably comes 91 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: some way in between what the union is actually seeking 92 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: as a headline rate and what the company is offering, 93 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: there could be progressed. So the union says at once 94 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: definitive above inflation increases given the cost of living pressures 95 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: which are being faced by the workers. So, as you say, 96 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: it's a classic standoff, there's a lot of dramatic talk 97 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: and we'll see how it plays out. In the days 98 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: and works. 99 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: Ahead coming up why Woolley says things aren't exactly looking up. 100 00:06:50,800 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five, it's been a tough year for Woolworths. 101 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: The supermarket chain is facing a court case brought by 102 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: the Consumer watchdog, which says it misled customers on price 103 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: drops and discounts. 104 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: The supermarkets are now scrambling to try and gain back 105 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: the trust of customers. 106 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 4: Now. 107 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: If the AH Triple C's allegations are true, it is 108 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: without question misleading and manipulative behavior, especially during a cost 109 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: of living crisis. 110 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: Woolworth's former chief executive Brad Banducci, exited the business in 111 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: September after a train wreck TV interview earlier in the year. 112 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: I mean, he is retired, but I shouldn't have said that. 113 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: Are we going to leave it in there? 114 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: If we are, well, I mean we're on the record 115 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: he said it. 116 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, let's move on. But yeah, yeah, no, 117 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: I think I'm done. 118 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: Guys. 119 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: You know I do this with a good intent. You know, 120 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,119 Speaker 1: I don't do this for bad intent. 121 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: You walking out? 122 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 4: Really? 123 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: We just sent new boss Amanda Bardwell had only been 124 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: in the job for seven weeks when at the end 125 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: of October, the nation's largest retailer suffered a shock profit downgrade. 126 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: That's because shoppers are tightening their purse strings and opting 127 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: for heavily discounted groceries amid an ongoing cost of living crisis. 128 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 4: Willworth's shares got hammered today after the supermarket chain released 129 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 4: a surprise profit warning. Wilworth said customers were trading down 130 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 4: and buying cheaper items, but it flagged weaker sales growth 131 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 4: in the second quarter. 132 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: Announcing those results, Bardwell wasn't exactly projecting an air of 133 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: optimism about the year ahead. 134 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 4: Amanda Bardwell said, we expect the environment for fiscal twenty 135 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 4: twenty five to remain challenging. We will also continue to 136 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 4: engage in good faith with the government and regulatory inquiries 137 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 4: and investigations. 138 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: Wilworth's biggest competitor, Coles, has an existing agreement with distributors 139 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: to ensure its smooth sailing into Christmas, and Ewan says 140 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: it could actually put coals in the more desirable commercial 141 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: position in the lead up to the festive season. Surely 142 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: a fight with its workers is the last thing Warworth 143 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: needs right now. 144 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: There's obviously a heightened appetite for an industrial action amongst workers. 145 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 2: Where the workforces are unionized. There's a push on, particularly 146 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: from the United Workers Union and other similar unions, for 147 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: cost of living increases to stay above inflations. They say, 148 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: companies like Warworks can afford them, and certainly the unions 149 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 2: are trying to capitalize them that bad publicity that Warworks 150 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: has suffered in recent times, to carry the public argument 151 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: with them, to try to exploit this idea that wor 152 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: worse might be on the nose with customers to a degree, 153 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: and so hoping that the public could be sympathetic to 154 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: their plight and give them the sort of momentum to 155 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: take this industrial action. Although you've got to say any 156 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: industrial action which affects such a big employer in the 157 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 2: leadup to Christmas is not going to be popular with 158 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: the general community. 159 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: You and Hannon is The Australian's Workplace editor. You can 160 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: read that exclusive story, as well as all the nation's 161 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: best news, sport and politics, right now at The Australian 162 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: dot com dot au