WEBVTT - I’LL NEVER F**CKING SETTLE (ft. Josh Packham) 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.680 I want the fairy tale. I want the prince charming. 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:04.640 She how do I put? 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:04.800 This? 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:07.040 Isn't a fan of my kissing style. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:10.680 We have a boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours. 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.840 He's in a trash bin. He's non recyclable catching number. 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:16.239 I loved being loved, I love love. 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:21.400 On today's episode of Where's Your Head At, we will 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:24.319 be discussing settling in relationships and whether or not to 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:26.880 lower your expectations or standards. 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.400 We also have a special guest in the studio today, 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:31.520 Anna's ex boyfriend, Josh Packham. 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:38.960 Stay tuned to hear all the juicy goss from Josh. 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:41.480 Where's Your Head At is a podcast that talks all 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:46.880 things relationships, breakups, reality TV, trending shows, and everything in between. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.879 This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip, 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:52.240 intimate details, advice, and much more. 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:59.480 Thanks for having me, guys, But that's a pretty rough 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.279 title out there. And his ex boyfriend what about like 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:05.640 Love Island cosar block runner up? Yeah? 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.959 Well, I mean they're all eligible like titles for you, 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.039 But I mean you are my ex boyfriend. This is 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:13.959 mine and Matt's podcast, so I just have. 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:15.560 To eat it. You have to eat it. I read 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:19.080 it for you, Josh, we will run with it. 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:21.120 How are you feeling, mate, coming off the block? 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:25.040 Yeah, I'm still like over the moon is still sort 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.920 of hitting home. So it's taken at least three or 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.520 four days to try to just process what happened, and 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:32.160 you know, I don't think I will process it for 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:34.560 at least another week or two. But it's sort of 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.319 sombar that the whole thing's come to an end. Obviously 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:40.800 watching it back was very tough. Doing the block was 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.280 very tough. So it's kind of gone on for nine 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.400 or ten months now, so it's kind of like that 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:46.440 chapter's closing. 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:48.520 Yeah, So it's a bit bittersweet, you'd. 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.160 Say it is. Yeah, even through the hard times, it's 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:53.480 something that you're consistently thinking of all the time, Like 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.560 it became my life. Yeah, So now that it's over, 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:58.920 it's sort of a good thing that I can kind 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.000 of not have to worry about, oh, what's going to 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.920 be shown next episode and have that on my mind. 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:06.840 But it's all I know for you know, a good 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:07.440 period of time. 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.440 Yeah, so that chapter is closing. What's in it for 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:11.280 the next chapter? 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:13.799 Next chapter? I don't think I want to do any 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:15.000 TV like. 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.280 Retiring from the retire. 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.239 I think the public has had enough Luke and I've 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.800 had enough, especially Luke. You know, he's got a family 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:26.800 on the way. I don't think he really wants to 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:28.840 do TV again, and you know, we're sort of a 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:34.080 packaged deal. But yeah, I don't know. I would potentially 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:37.800 do something, but it would have to be really interesting, 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.680 like an SAS or some challenging like a survivor. But 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.840 besides that, you know, I'll call it a day, I mean, 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:45.920 and Luke would just focus on our business. Yeah. 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.079 Well you said that Luke has a kid on the way, 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:53.840 which is very exciting with him. Yeah, tell us about 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.320 the moment when he first told you he was going to. 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:56.720 Be a dad. 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:57.200 Yeah. 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.880 Obviously it caught myself by surprise and the fan I 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.240 was sort of picking up on it. I could see 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:07.000 that his partner Olivia wasn't drinking any wine. Lave your 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.160 loves a glass of wine, so I was like, what's 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:12.359 going on there? Yeah, you know, there was some telltale signs, 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.680 but yeah, it's still that shock moment, like, Wow, you're 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:17.320 about to have a baby. You're going to be a dad, 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:24.399 Babby Luke. Yeah, the picture but it's very real and 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.480 it's got to be happening in March. So yeah, I 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.560 think you'll be a really good dad and you'll be 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:32.200 a good mum. Obviously they're engage and they were looking 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.480 to be married next year, but obviously that might have 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:38.800 to be delayed again. So first time COVID, second time baby, 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.920 hopefully there's no third time, and tied the Knight. 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.120 Has this news made you think about having a kid now? 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:48.960 No, I'm not really kind of just doing my own 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.160 thing for a while. Obviously I want to have kids 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:53.640 at some point in my life, but at twenty eight, 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:58.200 I still feel young. You know, I've got heaps and 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:01.760 mates that a dad's and you. I love that, like 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:03.760 once you have a kid, you love that last style. 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.600 But it's something that I feel I can do later 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:07.080 in life. 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:09.400 So I feel like you've got a lot of Josh 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.760 has got a lot of strong single single years, left 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:14.320 a lot of. 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:15.880 A lot of life to live. 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:17.960 A lot of. 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:24.320 Yeah, I want to travel, I said, a lot of 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:25.200 lives to live in. 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:31.800 You're so disgusting that I don't keep the numbers like you. 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:36.680 It's all good. Yeah, I think you know. I want 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:38.800 to travel. I want to go to Europe, have a 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:43.320 good time, do thing overseas, and then you know, then 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:44.000 find a partner. 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:47.120 Yeah, I mean I think it's funny because obviously you 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:53.960 and Luke are identical twins. Right, technically, this baby is 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:57.200 going to be somewhat what your kid's going to look like. 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:00.560 Right, Well, yeah, it'll have fifty per cent my DNA, 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:04.320 so it's a little weird. I can't feel about my baby, 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:05.960 That's what I was thinking. 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:11.240 It's kind of like Olivia. This sounds like off, but 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.840 like kind of like carrying your somewhat child. 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:18.640 Oh, I don't want to picture that. I can't think 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:19.200 of it like that. 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.240 It got all that I didn't think it was going 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:22.120 for this podcast. 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:29.000 But yeah, no, it will be obviously more hands on 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.080 with Luke's kid because we're twins, so we're prettingly close. 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.280 So it sort of will be a good good practice, 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.160 I guess for when I'm ready in maybe ten years time, 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:44.560 maybe four or five years too old. 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:47.240 All right, So on that talking about coming on this podcast, 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.640 have you listened to any of our podcast episodes? You 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.719 have any thoughts about what it's smoking about here? Yeah, 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:54.800 you want to clear the air, you tell your side 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:55.480 of any stories. 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:58.279 I mean, obviously I listened to the first episode, and 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:02.640 then when Anna was going to be mentioning our breakup 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.719 and relationship, obviously I was going to have a little listening. 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:09.320 So I have listened some things obviously I agree with, 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.080 and then other things I was like, oh, hold on, 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:12.240 that's not the full story. 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:16.640 You have a platform now to tell the viewers. 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:18.040 You need to clear anything up. 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.960 I mean, in our relationship, it's very hard coming off 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:25.200 lovel and it's a perfect well sort of what Anna said, 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.480 But when you come off, then you're in the stressful 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:32.200 environment of normal life. And I think we found out 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.000 pretty quickly that we weren't meant for each other. And 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.880 I think it's just because we have very different love 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:42.440 languages as well. I'm quality time. I thought animal's quality time, 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:45.880 but that's what you told me originally, but it turns 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.640 out you're more like acts of affirmation and acts of 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:51.479 service and gifts. 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:59.599 Gifts I reckon, No, I do, I reckon your acts 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.320 of service? Okay, definitely, because. 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.440 I'm definitely quality time, and what's the touch? 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:06.479 Can't be all of them? Are? 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:09.440 I mean, I'm covering. 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.280 Someone that's going to provide all words of affirmation. 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:20.120 I'm definitely words of affirmation and physical chart. This isn't 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.840 this isn't a ganging up session. Hold on a second, 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:26.400 a second. I used to like do really nice things 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.119 for you. I'd like, bring you a coffee in the morning, 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.800 and I'd buy your gifts and I wanted that return 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:32.040 to Josh, and you. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:32.800 Were able. 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:36.080 We go. 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.280 Making me coffee for one. You know, I don't even 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:47.080 drink coffee you brought me maybe maybe that's hold on, 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.840 hold on. You might have brought me in three or 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.560 four t's for me in bed during the relationship, because 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:59.320 I don't even want that. Then you were sort of like, 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.040 I would really like you to make me a coffee. 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.040 I probably made you a coffee four or five times 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:07.320 a week, every morning. One percent, one hundred percent, Yes 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.880 I did. Look, it was so skewed. Can you say 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.200 that because that's your But that's what you want because 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.720 you wanted the acts of service. So then I would 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:16.760 always get out of bed and make you the coffee 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:18.680 in the morning. It wasn't like, here's your tea, Josh 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:20.640 in bed. Look, do you want me to tack you 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:21.640 in for an extra hour? 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:25.200 It was it was not like that you're a bit 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:28.840 ungrateful what I did for you. 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.160 At least two hundred coffee is compared to about five days. 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:35.720 Look, I don't want to get into an arguer with 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:39.640 you about who make more teas coffee relation. 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:42.800 I'm just saying how I didn't bring it up. 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.319 You talked about the fact that like you thought I 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.520 was like quality time, and you were saying. 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:51.240 It, I genuinely think your access service. Yeah, from what 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:52.920 I know of you, I think your access service. 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.680 I'm definitely quality time and physical touch. I do like 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.960 acts of service, Yes, yeah, it's top one. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.160 I think I think you gifts to you. 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.559 I don't because gifts. 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.280 She just didn't anything. But that's the thing. No, no, 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.920 that's not true, because like if I'm in a relationship, 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:13.240 I will happily buy a gift on Valentine's Day, Birthday, 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.240 Chris mess and the anniversary. That's four gifts a year. 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.480 But you said, you know you're not buying me any gifts. 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:22.160 Like outside of that, it was just like sometimes you mean, 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.000 like if we went shopping, you would be like, you know, 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:25.880 you don't buy me anything. So then I'll say, okay, 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:31.040 well I'll buy a pair of jeans for me, this 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:36.480 is soud in my relationship, I don't really want to 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.840 I have to buy gifts outside of those four time 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:41.600 period because I think four gifts a year is plenty. 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:49.120 I'mosh, I really very gosh on this one because with you, 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.160 I'm agreeing I don't like buying gifts. 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:56.360 It's completely fine for you to want that, but I 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.120 don't know, I don't want to buy the gift. If not, 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:02.160 it's going to become I feel obliged to do it. 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:05.080 Yeah, I mean, look, I don't like buying gifts. I 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.200 find it really awkward to give a gift. Receiving gift 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:08.640 ye comfortable for me. 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.280 I think it was more so like in our relationship, 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.800 I would say that occasionally I would go out and 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.200 bring you like surprises or like remember we went to 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.720 like I don't know that, like Adidas that time, and 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:21.840 I bought you something, and like I like to buy 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.240 you like little things here and there, and I just 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:27.720 wanted you to maybe like buy me flowers occasionally or 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.920 write me a note, which is I guess more act 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.880 of service. And then so I think you think I'm 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:39.960 like wanting like tensional handbags. And just to clarify with everyone, 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:46.760 that's not making the car. Josh thinks I'm cutting out everything. 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:51.000 Yeah, but I think, like Matt, if someone is giving 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.320 us a gift, then we feel obliged to have to 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:57.480 return that favor. Yeah. And then if the partner's in 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.640 on your case even more about it, then it becomes 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.880 you know, something that that's weighing, you're down. I have 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:04.520 to get the gift. Now they're going to be. 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.559 Pissed, Whereas like the mentality I need in a relationship 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.079 with someone who's going to be like, oh, they did 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.679 something really thoughtful for me, I really want to do 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:17.079 something thoughtful back, not not Oh now I'm obliged. 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.720 To be and that's fine, that's fine. But I think 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:23.760 for me personally, I would prefer and be more students, 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:27.839 someone who's more in a sense just in involved in 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:34.199 quality time, because that's me to a tapodges. You love 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.320 all five, you might all five. 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:45.440 It's okay, it's okay to say it's fine. Wow, well 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:48.400 on that. Obviously, you guys for a bit there weren't 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:52.319 really on talking terms, quite angry at each other. Now 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:54.720 you guys clearly are on talking terms. Talk me through that, 0:11:54.920 --> 0:12:00.280 talk us all through that. We get here. Yeah. 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:04.319 Obviously it started off rocky at the beginning of the breakup, 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.959 just weren't talking at all. But time heals things and 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:11.560 then you know, realized what it was. The relationship. It 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:15.559 was toxic, very toxic. Lots of fights. Sometimes my fault 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:16.680 sometimes and his. 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.400 Fault park sometimes I fault. 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:23.760 Under, sometimes your faults. Do we want examples? Do we 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:24.920 want to? Do we want example? 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:25.400 Continue? 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:27.680 I think we should just. 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:32.480 So, Yeah, but then you know there's no point fighting. 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.480 Obviously we went through something heart together, which is love Island. 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.719 We've got that experience. It would be a shame if 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.839 we weren't friends and able to talk to one another. 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:43.160 So I think we just both got over it, and 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.600 you know, we're able to become friends, which is good. 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.080 To what extent now is your friendship? Do you guys 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.200 seek advice from each other? Do you guys come to 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:51.439 each other with relationship advice? 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:57.120 No, not not close friends, close friends, but to the fact, 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.480 like after the block, you know, and a call and 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.920 say congratulations, I'm very happy for your sort of thing, 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.040 and vice versa, or a happy birthday call, like just 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.880 something nice, nothing over the top, like hey, how's your 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:12.120 day going. It's not like that, but just nice keeping 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:12.959 contact sort of thing. 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.400 Yeah, it's good. It's healthy to have that sort of 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.600 relationship with your X. I think yeah. 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:19.800 And I think as well, like Love Island, like as 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.320 you said, as you touched on, Josh, is such like 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.000 a unique experience, and I mean we're all bonded from it. 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:28.080 But like obviously we won the show together. It was like, 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.680 you know, we just kind of got like catapulted into 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:35.120 this like different world than when we left. And I think, 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:39.439 you know, it's a bonding type of like experience, so 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.480 it's nice to still remain friends. 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:43.559 A lot of the listeners would have watched you on 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.760 the block obviously they all want to think the same thing. 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:47.760 Is it as stressful and as hyped up as it 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:48.280 is on TV? 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:55.960 Yeah, it's definitely very stressful. It's physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually draining. 0:13:57.360 --> 0:13:59.920 You only see such a small fragment of what's going on. 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:04.760 You are basically project managing the hardest projects literally three months. 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.800 There's always ten trades, they're all different trades, and they're 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.960 all trying to jump over one another to get things done. 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.200 Then you're trying to get furniture. Then you're trying to paint, 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.800 and then there's issues arising all the time that you 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.680 have to solve, so you only see such a small 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.800 percentage of what goes on. Yes, of course the show's 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.240 dramatized to an extent where you know they might show 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.760 Luke and Me storming off, but they don't show the 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.880 full context as to why, because there's such a big 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.880 story behind that blow up, right, which sometimes watching you 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.680 can be like, oh that's annoying, just show the whole thing, 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.480 but you need to remember it's TV. They need to 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.720 stick to their story and you just have to wear it. 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.920 Okay, So watching it back, you really felt like you 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:44.040 got a bad edit. 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:46.440 Yeah, I mean there's a million one things I would 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:50.320 love to say, but I'm careful as much as you're done. 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:53.400 Then yeah, well obviously you guys know Luke, Luke and I. Well, 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:55.840 I would probably say with the good, the bad, and 0:14:55.920 --> 0:15:05.560 the ugly ugly Yeah maybe bro love Yeah, And I 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:07.760 think Luke and I were good for the majority of 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:10.560 the show. Like we always a lot a lot of fun. 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:12.880 We're always laughing. We had heaps of fun with Keith 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:16.000 and Dan were they told us their favorite this season 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:18.760 all our trades we got on with really well. We 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.960 had great camaraderie, heaps of laughs, and at the end 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.400 of the show we were thinking, Wow, this is going 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.120 to be really good for us. There's going to be 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.800 heaps of laughs shown. And when we're watching it back, 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.280 we're like, oh jeez, they're really hypen up. All are 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:37.200 bad and showing no good. So that was difficult, difficult 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:37.840 pill to swallow. 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.120 Yeah, obviously with that came a lot of hate through 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.800 social media. A lot of people, Yeah, I got slams. 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.120 How does one deal with that sort of stuff? 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:48.920 There's two ways you can deal with that. You can 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:52.840 either get really upset and pretty much fire back at 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.160 them and try to defend yourself. But there's no point 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.880 doing that because that's what they want. They don't know 0:15:57.920 --> 0:15:58.680 you as a person. 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:00.680 You've got almost comp mentalized. 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:04.080 You do have to just pretend it doesn't exist. Don't 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.920 go on to the block page, for instance, and read 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.880 all those negative comments. You need to think what sort 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:14.720 of person watches reality TV gets so upset and personally 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:18.320 attacked by something they are seeing, going, I'm gonna make 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:22.880 sure everyone knows how I feel about them, the little 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:26.360 spoiler brat. So you know, you just have to pretend 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.320 like you just have to see it for what it is. 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.720 You know, happy people don't go on and talk shit 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:33.960 about people exactly. 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:35.680 People that are happy with their own lives aren't going 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:37.240 to go on to that platform. 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.960 And yet one hundred percent there's a good saying if 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:41.960 you have have a problem with me, that's fine, give 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.160 me a call. But if you don't have my number, 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.040 then you really don't have a reason to have a 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:46.640 problem with me. 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:47.280 I love that. 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:47.840 That's ad. 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.080 And it's true. I mean, there's so many keyboard wows 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:55.800 out there. They're always looking to start on someone, and 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.880 I think if we gave each one of those people 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.119 our energy, we're doing ourself a disservice. 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:03.960 Yeah, I agree, And it shows the strength of you 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.840 and Luke that you can handle that sort of stuff. 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.960 Obviously the normal person can't take that much. 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:10.280 Man. 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.480 I mean, from from time to time I would buy 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:17.240 it back. I can't help yourself. Like all that one 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:21.320 so wrong. I really just want to say something. 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.920 But imagine Luke. 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:29.520 Terrible if Josh has had a five Luke, yeah, loose. 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:32.399 A bit more erratic than me. But at the end 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:33.960 of the day, you know we got the last laugh. 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:35.640 Well, exactly the result. 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.040 On the weekend, and you know that's what we wanted. 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.000 All those people sort of have to eat their words. 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:44.560 So many messages like this their house sucks, they're going 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:48.119 to make no money. Worse contestants ever, so walk away 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:52.040 with half a meal coming second. You know they can't 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:55.600 say anything really now besides be bitter. Yeah jealous. 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.520 So yeah, exactly like you said you had the last laugh. 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.400 What you kind going to do with all that money? 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:05.000 Because half a million dollars like that is life changing money. 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.000 Yeah, it's a lot of money, and it really hasn't 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.280 sunk in yet. But obviously Luke and I we want 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:14.120 to start our business that will be importing artificial grass 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.239 and we'll have it as our own brand. If we 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.800 can get it into a big store. I mean, this 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.960 is really pushing the boundaries. If we could get it 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:23.880 into like a Mile to ten or a Bunnings, that'd 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:29.560 be great, but chances are slim, so we'll try. We'll 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.720 absolutely try with the block thing you get mighty ten. 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:35.840 But that's what I'm concerned about. The edit, like, did 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.280 that really affects us to the point where they won't 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:43.919 want to align with us? Stressed about but we've got 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.240 a really good product, so we want the product to 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.879 do the talking, and we have high hopes for it 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:51.480 to get in, but we we don't want to rely 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.240 on that because we think we can quite happily set 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.280 up our own warehouse and distribute it to other installs 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:57.840 like ourselves. 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:00.320 And at the end of the day, you guys got 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.119 the last laugh, and I think it does turn the 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:07.040 perception around when you've done the second best and you're 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:12.680 going up against the favorites of block contestants and you 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:15.439 guys have somehow come out second, So that speaks for itself, 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:16.080 right exactly. 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.919 Yeah, you know, Running and Georgia, Mitch and Mark, they're 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:23.320 both professional renovators, so they know what they're doing. So 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:25.960 that's why we had to be very confident on the show, 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:29.280 because you have to believe in yourself. If not, you know, 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:31.400 you're just not going to be able to go ahead 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:34.040 with your big ideas with any validation. So that's why 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:35.880 we really stuck to our guns. You have to take 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:38.200 risks on the show one hundred percent if you want 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.920 a big prize, and we definitely took big risks. Obviously, 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.359 Matt Matt was there, he saw how hard. 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:45.080 It was. 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:48.200 It was being on site and I was a broken man. 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:50.000 I was going to say that week ten and eleven, 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:51.879 I was so tired and exhausted. I was half of 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:52.439 who I was. 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:54.080