WEBVTT - #1979 Dear Kate Weaver - Harps & Tiff

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<v Speaker 1>Tivity Ankle, Craig Anthony Harper, Hi, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well, look I'm real, I'm real good has.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you bursting out of my fucking flannel shirt?

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<v Speaker 1>It's so excited. Let's hope that this effort lasts longer

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<v Speaker 1>than ninety three seconds, because I'm glad you're I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>you're you, and I'm glad you're not a high maintenance

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<v Speaker 1>client from a far away or I should say, guess

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<v Speaker 1>from a far away land, because so far we wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be impressing. Because my speaker has done a big pooh

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<v Speaker 1>on top of itself.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've been so what happens, folks, is I record

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<v Speaker 3>at home, obviously with an external mike, which is mildly fancy,

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<v Speaker 3>a road mic, and a few other bits and pieces,

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<v Speaker 3>which is good, and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, all the good gear, except I'm a more on

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<v Speaker 1>and so when shit breaks, it's just like Banana's in pajamas,

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of bumping into each other, just falling over, or

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<v Speaker 1>picture one of those people and you know those big

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<v Speaker 1>suits that they wear, the big blow up suits when

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<v Speaker 1>they punch each other in like a boxing castle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like that guy, just bumping around Anyway, we're going on.

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<v Speaker 2>For seventeen minutes, everyone, seventeen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>As we start. It's three eighteen right now. We started

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<v Speaker 1>at three and I couldn't figure shit out for seven

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<v Speaker 1>eight minutes. Anyway, here we are. How are you? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you all right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm very very good. Thanks?

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<v Speaker 1>Now today is I should? I should? This is not

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<v Speaker 1>good good potty, but fuck it, I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 1>it live on the potty because some of the other

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<v Speaker 1>days sent us a message which was lovely a week

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<v Speaker 1>or so ago. I did, Fuck, it's not happening today.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not coming up on my phone, so I can't anyway, somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>fucking now, welcome back to you. Anything could go wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm crying, Carper, and everything is going wrong. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>we called it that. Somebody put up a notice in

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<v Speaker 1>the group apologies. There was a lady, I can't my

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<v Speaker 1>thing won't open up, so I can't find you name.

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<v Speaker 1>But she went, hey, love all the fitness ones, but

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<v Speaker 1>they seem to be always more directed at beginners, and

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<v Speaker 1>I went, that is a very good point. That's very observant.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I even said, noted, I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 1>something for people who are a little bit more advanced

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere in the medium too. I'm about to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics kind of category and we'll have a chat

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<v Speaker 1>about that. So this is really four people who have

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<v Speaker 1>been training for a while. I've got some experience, some fitness,

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<v Speaker 1>some strength, anywhere between. You know, three probably six to

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<v Speaker 1>twelve months of experience where you've really started to change

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<v Speaker 1>and adapt and you're not a beginner anymore. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have your training wheels on anymore, and you've started to

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<v Speaker 1>get some results, or you could be anyone through to

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who's at the very point end of a sport.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember we're not talking about individual sports. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>training bodies. We're talking about conditioning bodies. And that is

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<v Speaker 1>conditioning bodies for life, conditioning bodies for health and wellness

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<v Speaker 1>and function and performance, and also conditioning bodies for sport

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<v Speaker 1>if that's where you're at. And of course, a conditioning

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<v Speaker 1>program for a runner is not going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>same for a powerlifter, is not going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>same for somebody who's got a history of lower back

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<v Speaker 1>injuries and wants to be able to play footy again

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever it is, or just the average punter who's

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<v Speaker 1>fifty or sixty or seventy and says, I've been training

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<v Speaker 1>on and off for quite a while. I've been training

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<v Speaker 1>for the last year or two pretty consistently. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to turn up the volume and the intensity. How do

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<v Speaker 1>I do that? So this show is about that. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll shut up in a moment. It is not a

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<v Speaker 1>personal prescription. So don't say Craig Harper said I should

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<v Speaker 1>do that, and then when I went and did it

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<v Speaker 1>and I busted my back. Don't do that. So what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing is I'm talking about how training at a

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<v Speaker 1>high level works. I'm talking about intensity and volume and

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<v Speaker 1>when is probably a good idea to change a program

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<v Speaker 1>or up the intensity or decrease the recovery, or manipulate

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<v Speaker 1>the variables to work harder and to get more out

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<v Speaker 1>of your body. So it is very much just me

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<v Speaker 1>and Tiffany and Cook thinking out loud, not directing you

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<v Speaker 1>to do anything in particular. But also, as you will

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<v Speaker 1>hear through the show, it's like it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>it makes sense. I'm not probably not going to say

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<v Speaker 1>anything that blows your head off in terms of wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I never would have imagined that it. Most of it

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense, But I think it's good to hear from

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who's worked with lots and lots of athletes and

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<v Speaker 1>lots and lots of highly conditioned people and not so

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<v Speaker 1>conditioned people over a very long time, So that would

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<v Speaker 1>be me, all right. So I've given Tiff a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of prompts or questions which I think are good for this.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've also said, ask as many or as few

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<v Speaker 1>as you want, and we'll just see where we go.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's there's probably a little bit of planning for this,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, but you know, generally we have a

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<v Speaker 1>plan and then we fuck the plan off and just

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<v Speaker 1>go somewhere else. But I think these are good questions

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<v Speaker 1>to explore because I think they're broadly relevant. So you've

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<v Speaker 1>got all of I think I sent you through like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty or fifteen. Where do you want to start?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I want to start by a big shout out

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<v Speaker 2>to Kate Weaver, who thank you, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Kate, Thank you Kate, and thank you Tip for finding Kate.

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<v Speaker 1>Good work you, Kate, good work you tif the good

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<v Speaker 1>work you listener. Where do we want to do? We

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<v Speaker 1>just want to start at the top. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do? You take charge.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, I want to start at top. So at the

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<v Speaker 2>top we've got overall training volume for more advanced people.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so typically I'm going to say a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>it depends, right, but it does depend. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>are a more advanced let's say strength trainer, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>all you want to do, and I put an asterisk

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<v Speaker 1>next to that because it's a big deal, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but your main goals are just to build strength and function,

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<v Speaker 1>have more muscle, have greater bone density, have more accessible

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<v Speaker 1>functional muscle, and power and endurance and all of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>Then your overall training volume for somebody like that would

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<v Speaker 1>probably be in terms of just strength stuff, somewhere between

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<v Speaker 1>three to seven hours a week. Now we're talking someone

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<v Speaker 1>at the more pointy end of the scale. Then if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a super duper advanced it might even be more

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<v Speaker 1>than that. But also remember that, for example, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>power lifter, or you're someone who's training for ultimate power

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<v Speaker 1>and ultimate strength and ultimate muscle gain, there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be more recovery, there's going to be longer workouts, but

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<v Speaker 1>there may even be less volume in a longer time

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<v Speaker 1>because when we're lifting heavy and we're really trying to

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<v Speaker 1>move the needle on muscle mass for example, or power

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<v Speaker 1>or absolute strength, we tend to have more recovery time

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<v Speaker 1>between sets. Conversely, somebody could come in who's more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in still at the point to your end of the

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<v Speaker 1>scale or the more advanced end of the scale, and say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I am a triathlete, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>need to be strong, but I can't carry an extra

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<v Speaker 1>twenty kilos of muscle because that's not functional for my sport.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to build strength, but I also want

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<v Speaker 1>to build muscular endurance because I tend to do very

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<v Speaker 1>very high rep activities like writing and running and swimming.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for somebody who's an an elite triathlete in

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<v Speaker 1>this example, we want them to have, yes, some strength,

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<v Speaker 1>some power, some speed depending on the distances that they

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<v Speaker 1>run right and swim, but most likely they need to

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<v Speaker 1>have great muscular endurance, so they would they would probably

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<v Speaker 1>have a higher volume. They would definitely have a higher volume,

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<v Speaker 1>more sets and reps and more stuff in the workout,

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<v Speaker 1>but they would also have less recovery time between sets.

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<v Speaker 1>But the overall workout might be forty five to sixty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas the power dude or the power girl who's in

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<v Speaker 1>the gym just trying to get jacked and big and

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<v Speaker 1>strong as a fucking house. They're going to do a set.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be pretty heavy, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>pretty hard, it's going to be pretty maximal, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they may have two, three, even four minutes recovery time

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<v Speaker 1>between sets. But that's what works for hypertrophy and power.

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<v Speaker 1>So the answer is, which is kind of annoying, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's very true, is training volume depends on what it

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<v Speaker 1>is you're after. Generally, though, the more progressed you are,

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<v Speaker 1>the further down the line you are, the more elite

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<v Speaker 1>you are, the more the volume. But in terms of progression,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, gains, improvement, adaptation, climbing, the kind of performance ladder.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that while training is crucial, recovery is just as

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<v Speaker 1>crucial as is sleep, as is nutrition. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>multi dimensional thing. Tiffany and Cook, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get you to expand because we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to expand on the hypertrophy and strength and power rep ranges.

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<v Speaker 2>But before that, because I asked a question recently to you,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's interesting when we are coming from

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<v Speaker 2>an active background that is not in the weight room

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<v Speaker 2>like I did. So I had an extensive history of

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<v Speaker 2>boxing and then doing a lot of hit training, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I came into doing heavy traditional kind of weight training,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember asking you, like, what how where do

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<v Speaker 2>I sit in the novice, intermediate, elite kind of level

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<v Speaker 2>of truck? What level of training am I at when

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<v Speaker 2>it's a different style? So is there some rules around that?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a really smart question. Actually, yeah, that is. I

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<v Speaker 1>had not thought of that question. And so I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>in general terms, when you started strength training with me,

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<v Speaker 1>you were already fitter than average, stronger than average, probably

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<v Speaker 1>better body composition than the average, you know, more balanced,

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<v Speaker 1>more coordinated. You were already and that's genetics plus work.

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<v Speaker 1>Quite athletic, right, So I would say your overall conditioning

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<v Speaker 1>was this is just you know, craigerfying, but your overall

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<v Speaker 1>conditioning was probably an eight. But then if we put

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<v Speaker 1>you in the gym and we went just tire are

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<v Speaker 1>some functional kind not well, yeah, they're all functional, but

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<v Speaker 1>here are some traditional lifts, you know, bench press, squads,

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<v Speaker 1>dead lifts, gins. Just the fundamentals or your level of

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<v Speaker 1>conditioning for that was probably a three or four. But

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<v Speaker 1>because you have such a training background, you adapted very quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>much more quickly than if Tiffany and Cook had a

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<v Speaker 1>twin sister who had never worked out, Right, you who've

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<v Speaker 1>always worked out, versus your sister with the same body

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<v Speaker 1>and the same genes who'd never worked out, you would

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<v Speaker 1>adapt much more quickly. So there's level of conditioning and

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<v Speaker 1>where we are on the fitness and strength and performance

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<v Speaker 1>scale relative to an individual thing like say triathletes, or

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<v Speaker 1>like bodybuilding, or like tennis, versus what we would call

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<v Speaker 1>just overall conditioning. So yeah, like, for example, my body

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<v Speaker 1>is very very conditioned to strength training and that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of old school bodybuilding lifting shits. And when I say bodybuilding,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm literally talking building your body. I'm not for me

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I Am not talking about getting on stage

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<v Speaker 1>and being stared at and judged and going, oh, how

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<v Speaker 1>well do his delts balance with his lats? And he's

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<v Speaker 1>not that. I'm just talking bodybuilding, which is building all

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<v Speaker 1>round strength. Yeah. So yeah, that's a really good question.

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<v Speaker 1>So we find people that come from say a running background,

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<v Speaker 1>who have never done He's a beautiful example. Tammy van Wiss.

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<v Speaker 1>If you had Tam on your show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so she's a superstar. She was for a very

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<v Speaker 1>long time, probably the best female endurance swimmer on the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>I worked with her for quite a long time, and

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<v Speaker 1>she came in and we met and we talked. I

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<v Speaker 1>met her for the first time. I didn't know her.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew of her, I didn't know her though, and

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<v Speaker 1>we chatted and she's like, all, I Doretty much is swim,

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<v Speaker 1>which if you're a swim and that's if you can

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<v Speaker 1>do one thing, that's probably good, right, genius. But what

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<v Speaker 1>she said, I want to do. It was just when

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<v Speaker 1>people were starting to diversify their training program because for

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<v Speaker 1>a very long time, all runners did was run, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they of course there was a bit of token other stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was really token. It wasn't very scientific. All

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<v Speaker 1>swimmers did were swim. All tennis players did was play tennis.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would think it was around the early eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>mid eighties where people started to get more and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>in the noughties it's really escalated, but where people started

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<v Speaker 1>to get methodical and scientific and strategic about conditioning their

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<v Speaker 1>body and looking at individual sports and saying, okay, let's

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<v Speaker 1>pick for example, netbal, where you go all right, well, netball,

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<v Speaker 1>is it important that you can run five k's at

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<v Speaker 1>a steady state and do a sub twenty sub four

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<v Speaker 1>minute kilometer run. No, not at all. Why because we

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that in netball. What do we do in netball?

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<v Speaker 1>We sprint stop turn, sprints, stop, turn, move laterally, move forward,

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<v Speaker 1>move backwards, run jump, run, jump left, right right. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing this interval training, so you need to be

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<v Speaker 1>good at that. So what can we do. We can

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<v Speaker 1>do drills that emulate what you would do on the

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<v Speaker 1>netball court. Because five k's you're not moving explosively, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not changing direction, you're moving in a straight line, You're

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<v Speaker 1>not there's So yes, you're fit, but you're fit for

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<v Speaker 1>running five k's versus fit for netball. And so back

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<v Speaker 1>to Tammy. Tammy came in, we had a chat and

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<v Speaker 1>I went cool. So she came in the next day

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<v Speaker 1>and I went, all right, we're just going to do

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of stuff that you normally don't do, which

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<v Speaker 1>is everything other than swimming, right, And so I took

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<v Speaker 1>her for a run and I said, we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to run far or fast. So the girl who never ran,

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<v Speaker 1>the girl who never had to do weight bearing stuff

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<v Speaker 1>because of body was always in the water. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is a long time ago, but she was while. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if her and I got in a pool, I'd fucking

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<v Speaker 1>die in three minutes, and she'd be zooming up and

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<v Speaker 1>down the pool like a motor boat. Right. But so

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<v Speaker 1>we went out the front of the gym and there's

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<v Speaker 1>around my gym. At that stage there was a block.

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<v Speaker 1>The block to run around my gym was nine hundred meters.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, we're just going to do a nine

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<v Speaker 1>hundred meter jog. We're not going to sprint, nothing fancy.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to go hard. And she goes, I've

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<v Speaker 1>never run, and I go, well, maybe she's done a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but she'd never been a runner, right, And let's just

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<v Speaker 1>say that she nearly fucking cackd at doing a nine hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>So the girl who swam five k's the morning before

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<v Speaker 1>or the day that I trained her, I said, what

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<v Speaker 1>have you done today? And she said five k's right,

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<v Speaker 1>which sounds extreme, but for an ultra swimmer it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>So she ran five k's ate, some breakfast swam five

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<v Speaker 1>k's ate, some breakfast, came to the gym, could hardly

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<v Speaker 1>run and not because she was tired or uncoordinated, but

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<v Speaker 1>because she never did that. So she was very unconditioned

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<v Speaker 1>for other things, but an absolute elite weapon at that

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<v Speaker 1>thing that she did. But what we now know is

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<v Speaker 1>when you can maintain that level of elite, whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's tennis or swimming or martial arts or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and then on top of that, you can condition your

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<v Speaker 1>body specifically to build strength or power or speed or

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<v Speaker 1>change of direction or coordination or balance or spatial awareness

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<v Speaker 1>or all of these fitness or physiological variables that we

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<v Speaker 1>can manage. Then you take the person who's already real

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<v Speaker 1>good and add this kind of new capacity with their

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<v Speaker 1>body and they become crazy. So there's yeah, so good question, though,

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<v Speaker 1>love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we talk a little bit about the REP range

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<v Speaker 2>for hypertrophy, strength, power, muscular endurance, So what REP range

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<v Speaker 2>is where they sit? But also how do we prioritize

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<v Speaker 2>and do some come at the cost of others?

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, so I'm going to tell you what they

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<v Speaker 1>typically would tell you if you did a VIC FIT

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<v Speaker 1>course or a level for a Level three certificate in fitness,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever state or country in Generally they're going to say

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<v Speaker 1>to you Okay, anything you know less than six reps

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<v Speaker 1>is in the power range, you know four and so

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<v Speaker 1>you'll have powerlifters who obviously a powerlifter and Olympic lifters

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<v Speaker 1>are the same. You know, they walk out, they lie

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<v Speaker 1>on the bench press, or they walk up to the

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<v Speaker 1>squat bar, or they walk up to the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the barbelle on the floor where they're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>a deadlift, and they will do one lift in competition.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they will come back, but they do single

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll do a single lift and then they might

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<v Speaker 1>come back five or ten minutes later. But it's literally

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<v Speaker 1>one repetition at a time. So there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of value for an elite level power lifter to be

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<v Speaker 1>doing ten to twenty reps. Right. There'll be times where

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<v Speaker 1>they do that because it's just they're going through a

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<v Speaker 1>phase of their training and everything with most of the lead

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<v Speaker 1>athletes has periodized, and it might be just in that

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<v Speaker 1>phase where they're given their joints and ligaments and ten

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<v Speaker 1>and to a break, but typically they're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>low reps. Then we think about somebody who is really

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<v Speaker 1>just about strength, so power I would say somewhere between

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<v Speaker 1>one and four or maybe five reps, maybe six. Strength

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<v Speaker 1>would be somewhere in the kind of five six up

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<v Speaker 1>to about ten twelve range. This is typically what they

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<v Speaker 1>would tell you. I argue with these and I'll explain why,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they would say that hypertrophy is generally somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in the ten to fifteen Now hyperch fhe is building

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<v Speaker 1>muscle mass is in the ten to fifteen rep range,

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<v Speaker 1>and then anything above fifteen reps they would call that

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<v Speaker 1>muscular endurance. And in very general terms, that's not the

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<v Speaker 1>worst science. But the problem is that when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at say, cyclists, and some of them do heavy singles

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<v Speaker 1>or heavy two or three rep maxes, some of them do,

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<v Speaker 1>not all of them though, But when you think about

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<v Speaker 1>what they do most of the time, most of the

0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:46.240
<v Speaker 1>time cyclists men and women are essentially doing high rep,

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<v Speaker 1>light to moderate resistance. Like you think about when you're

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<v Speaker 1>pushing a pedal, you are essentially doing a leg press,

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<v Speaker 1>because what you're doing is you are extending your knee

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<v Speaker 1>or ex straightening your knee under load. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>do when you do a leg press or a squat

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<v Speaker 1>or a deadlift, you straighten or extend your knee under load.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same movement, it's slightly different, but it's done

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<v Speaker 1>a slightly different way, it's done in a seated position,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of those things. So essentially, sprinting around the

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<v Speaker 1>velodrome for say two minutes, is like doing two minutes

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<v Speaker 1>of fucking really hard, moderately light but extremely intense leg

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<v Speaker 1>presses or squats, you know, not the same range of movement.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you look at these people who do what

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<v Speaker 1>we would call muscular endurance training and they've got these

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<v Speaker 1>whopping fucking legs. You go, well, how does that match up?

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<v Speaker 1>Because they don't actually train in terms of what traditionally

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<v Speaker 1>what we would call that's not hypertrophy, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not power, although they do generate ridiculous power, like just

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<v Speaker 1>through this kind of lens of this many reps equals

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<v Speaker 1>muscular endurance, this many reps equals or that it just

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work out. So there are so many times when

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<v Speaker 1>also another one you think about an elite swimmer, even

0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:16.960
<v Speaker 1>swimmers who swim longer distances, like even say two to

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred meters, So I don't know what's two hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they're in the water for you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>one forty five or something, right, but it's like one

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<v Speaker 1>forty five of extremely intense Let's say butterfly. Look at butterfly. Fuck,

0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:33.960
<v Speaker 1>how intense is that? Right? They're coming out of the

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<v Speaker 1>water and they're doing reps where they're pulling their body

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<v Speaker 1>through the water, and of course they're kicking and so

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<v Speaker 1>it's a total body movement. But they're basically doing reps

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<v Speaker 1>for a minute and forty five or if it's a

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred meter it's probably like three point thirty or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. Sorry, I don't have the times off

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<v Speaker 1>the top of my head. But they're essentially doing muscular

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<v Speaker 1>endurance training. But they get out of the pool and

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<v Speaker 1>they've got a back like a fucking house.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got a big muscular back and big muscular shoulders.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, well, if they're only doing endurance training,

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<v Speaker 1>which they mostly are, how the fuck are they so big? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the obvious elephant in the room when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to this theory. In general terms, it is what I said,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also it doesn't you know, like even the

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<v Speaker 1>crab and I like, I've got a fair bit of

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<v Speaker 1>muscle for my age. The crab's got more. I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I do. Mostly what I would do is somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>the ballpark of muscular endurance. I percha fee muscular endurance

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<v Speaker 1>and and but you know, I still hold onto a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of muscle even though I don't train in the

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<v Speaker 1>way that might be recommended for optimal muscle mass. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>good question, Tiff.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you think that doesn't seem to apply to

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<v Speaker 2>marathon runners? So you look at sprinters and they've got

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<v Speaker 2>legs like tree trunks, but marathon runners of very lean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that is a good question too. So marathon runners, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>it is disadvantageous even if you've got all the muscle,

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<v Speaker 1>like an eighty kilogram endurance athlete or an eighty kilogram

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<v Speaker 1>marathona with say four percent body fat. Okay, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>say in this case a male, he is very lean,

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<v Speaker 1>he is very jacked, he's eighty but it's just way

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<v Speaker 1>too heavy, you know, which is why we'll see someone

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<v Speaker 1>my height, which is five ten an elite marathona at

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<v Speaker 1>my height, and I'm a eighty one kilos and I'm lean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very lean, But a marathona my height would weigh

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<v Speaker 1>about sixty or somewhere between fifty and sixty kilos fifty five,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, and sixty kilos because you need a comment.

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<v Speaker 1>You need enough power and speed, but you don't need

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<v Speaker 1>the weight. And so yeah, you just can't be You

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<v Speaker 1>will never see an eighty kilogram will not an elite

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<v Speaker 1>eighty kilogram marathon at the Olympics. And it's not because

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<v Speaker 1>being eighty kilos is bad. It's just that you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>carrying twenty kilograms more. Now you think if you take

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<v Speaker 1>let's say one meter per step, right, well, then you're

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 1>doing forty two thousand steps. In fact, forty two two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred steps in a marathon where you're carrying essentially a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty kilo weakefest. It just doesn't work. So the body

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sorts itself out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and how do how do you people who so

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<v Speaker 2>people I guess like myself super enthusiastic at the gym

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<v Speaker 2>now want to know I want to advance in my

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<v Speaker 2>strength training. If people are listening who are kinder at

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<v Speaker 2>that point, but they don't have I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 2>powerlifting or I'm going to do body composition, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and competitions? How do we decide what to apply and

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<v Speaker 2>how to apply these styles of training?

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<v Speaker 1>So everything is a little bit in their space. This

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<v Speaker 1>is why I said at the start of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is not a personal recommendation because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if thousands of people listen to this, which they do,

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<v Speaker 1>how on earth do I know who's listening, what their

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<v Speaker 1>background is, what their genetic disposition is, what their medical

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 1>issues are, what their injuries are. So it's very much

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:40.160
<v Speaker 1>an equals one. You know, try something and see how

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 1>your body responds. But if, for example, you came to me,

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 1>which you wouldn't, But let's say you came to me

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<v Speaker 1>and you said, I want to run a marathon or

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<v Speaker 1>you might do that, who knows, But I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, well you're now. When I say this everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm speaking as an exercise scientist and from a physical

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<v Speaker 1>logical point of view, I would go, well, with all

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the muscle you've got and the weight that you've got,

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:08.359
<v Speaker 1>which by the way, is good weight because it's muscle.

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<v Speaker 1>First thing I would say is, well, think about this.

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<v Speaker 1>You training for a marathon. In my opinion, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to make you healthier moving forward. If you don't

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:23.400
<v Speaker 1>care about that, that's not going to destroy your health obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>But you are sixty what are you sixty sixty two

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 1>kilos yep, and you're lean, like, you're leaner than ninety

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 1>nine percent of people, right, your lean and so then

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<v Speaker 1>you go, all right, well, what am I going to

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:43.920
<v Speaker 1>get rid of? Because if you start running ten fifteen,

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty k's and then you're doing that for ten or

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<v Speaker 1>eight months as you lead up to the event, well

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:52.720
<v Speaker 1>you will compromise a lot of muscle. Now, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>cool with that, then that's fine. But everything comes at

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<v Speaker 1>a cost. You know, lower running time come at the

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 1>cost of muscle. You know, building muscle and building absolute

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>power and strength often comes at the cost of flexibility

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:13.640
<v Speaker 1>and range of movement, or it can, right, So everything

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>comes at a cost. So what we're trying to do, like,

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I think you from a like you to me, you're

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 1>a hybrid, right because you can run and you can ride,

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and you can box, and you're coordinated and you've got

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 1>muscular endurance and you've got strength and speed and balance

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>and coordination. Because you're boxing, like, there's not a lot

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>of things that you couldn't do pretty competently. That's not

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:45.120
<v Speaker 1>say you would be elite, but you'd probably be better

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.640
<v Speaker 1>than average because you're genetically better than average and athletically

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:52.679
<v Speaker 1>better than average. I'm not I'm worse, right, So for

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 1>me if you and I and again I'm older and

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>all of those things. And by the way, none of

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:02.120
<v Speaker 1>this is elevating tiar four and you know, being critical

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:05.679
<v Speaker 1>of myself. This is just looking at a body and

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 1>how body works. It's like, and she didn't deserve her body.

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:10.879
<v Speaker 1>She was just lucky. I didn't deserve my body. I

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 1>was just lucky. You just get what you're born with.

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I think you know. So whatever it is.

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 1>If you want to build muscle, a very common thing

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:23.119
<v Speaker 1>is I want to build muscle lose fat. Well, let

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>me tell you it's pretty hard to build muscle and

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 1>lose fat at the same time. It's possible, but it's

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>pretty hard. So you might want to kind of initially

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:34.919
<v Speaker 1>if your focus is on building muscle and changing shape,

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:37.680
<v Speaker 1>whether you're a guy or a girl, you might want

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>to just try to hold on to whatever your body

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 1>fat level is, keep it at that, depending on what

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>it is, or you might want to, you know, like

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 1>be happy to lose a little bit of muscle, or

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 1>just hold on to the muscle and drop some body fat.

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:54.719
<v Speaker 1>But it's rare that your muscle mass will grow and

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>your body fat will reduce at the same time. It's

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>a pretty complicated thing, but you know, once you've got

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 1>that muscle, once you then you can try to or

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 1>then you can you know, with quite a bit of

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:13.719
<v Speaker 1>planning and structure and work, you know, you can reduce

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>your body fat and hold on to most of what

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 1>you've got. So you know, it's funny because when I'm

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>in a singlet without sounding like a wanka, I'm made

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>a kilos, but I look much bigger, and people regularly

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 1>think I'm ninety kilos because I'm lean. But if I'm

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 1>in a flannel shirt like I am now and people

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't know me, they probably wouldn't even think I worked out.

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 1>They would just think I'm an old guy that's in

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>not terrible shape, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>because it's you know, so there's that. I don't even

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>know what you asked me, and I'm far away from home,

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 1>so save me. I don't even know where we start

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>out with that.

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 2>Here's where i'd like to go. I would like to go.

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 2>What's the difference between using free weights and pinloaded machines?

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>So when we're doing resistance training. Literally we are just

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 1>working against resistance of some kind. And typically in a

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>gym you're going to have kettlebells, bar bells, dumb bells,

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and a range of straight bars, z bars or easy

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>curl bars, Olympic bars, shorter and longer bars, you know,

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.959
<v Speaker 1>but basically what we would call just free weights. And

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>then you use those free weights either just standing or

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 1>you use them quite often on a bench, whether it's

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 1>a shoulder press or a bench press, or sometimes a

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>supported row or a prone row where you lie on

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>your tummy and you pull up a bar belt to

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 1>hit the bench or touch the bench. So there's a

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 1>myriad of ways that we can use free weights. I

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>think the more advanced we become, the more we should

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:58.239
<v Speaker 1>unless there's a medical or clinical reason not to the

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>more we should use free weight. So I'm speaking to

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>you who are more advanced. So the difference between saying

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>doing a let's say, a shoulder press on a pin

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>loaded machine is you sit on the or even a

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 1>plate loaded machine, because that it's pretty much the same

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>when we're talking about a fixed Some things on fixed

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 1>basically runners where you don't have to balance it, you

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:28.719
<v Speaker 1>don't have to be coordinated. You just push it up

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>in the air and it goes, you know, as a

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 1>response to your pushing. Versus if I'm sitting on just

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 1>a bench and I've got a couple of dumb bells

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>up at my shoulders and I'm activating my core, all

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>my muscles, and I'm sitting, I'm not leaning against anything necessarily,

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>and I've got these two dumbbells and I've got to

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>push them up in the air. And not only do

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:54.479
<v Speaker 1>I need to push them work against gravity and the

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>resistance that comes with the weight, but I've also got

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 1>to balance them. I've also got to control them. I've

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>also got to stabilize those weights through that range of movement.

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>So the main benefit in using free weights versus pin

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>loaded weights is that we're using a bunch more muscles.

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 1>We're using a lot of stabilizers, stabilizing muscles around your

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>hips and around you know, your midsection, around your shoulders.

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 1>We're using a lot of those which we don't tend

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>to when we're doing something which is particularly something which

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>is pinloaded with that comes more risk because it requires

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 1>more technique. It's less safe, but done the right way,

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 1>it is you know, quite safe. And then, as I've

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>said a thousand times on here before, you know, pinloaded

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>machine is fine. So somebody like me who's got a

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>perpetually injured but slowly getting better shoulder, I use what's

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>called an upright a chest press when I'm training my chest.

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't love that exercise. I don't love that machine,

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>but for my shoulder, with my injury, that works for me.

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>So that's why I use it. When I try to

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 1>do a normal bench press on lying on a bench

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 1>with a free weight barbell or even dumbbells, I have

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 1>excruciating pain. So and for whatever reason, when I do

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>the pinloaded it's easier. But in general terms, we want

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>to use free weights and our body will tell us,

0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and our results will tell us, and our strength will

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>tell us. And the difference between doing something you know,

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>like for those of you who have done a forty

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 1>five degree leg press, and let's say you've done a

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 1>one hundred kilo leg press, if you ever tried then

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 1>to step out of that and do one hundred kilo squat,

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 1>you would discover the difference between a machine and a

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 1>free weight movement, you know, one hundred kilo squat, real

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>squat parallel to the ground us, you know, down to

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of parallel to your knees. It involves so many

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 1>more muscles than just sitting in a leg press, and

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:15.920
<v Speaker 1>depending on how you do it, more benefits or potentially

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:18.360
<v Speaker 1>more problems if you don't do it well.

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 2>How should we incorporate or should we incorporate variables in

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 2>time under tension? Pause reps, slow reps, tempo reps.

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great. So time under tension,

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 1>that's good. That's that's a tif question, not a great question, bloody.

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Good question is basically how long we are working against resistance.

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 1>So if I do twenty curls and it takes me

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 1>three seconds of curl, then time undertension is sixty seconds.

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 1>If I'm doing a prone hold and it's a two

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 1>minute and time undertention two minutes. If I do ten

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 1>push ups and each push up takes one second, ten

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 1>seconds time under tension and so on. And this is

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:08.279
<v Speaker 1>a really good question because people don't factor in time

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 1>under tension enough because they they're more concerned with how

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 1>many they do. And this is a very good way

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 1>to increase Glad you asked this. I didn't think of it.

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 1>This is a very good way to increase intensity without

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 1>greatly increasing risk at all. Right, so let me give

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 1>you an example. So everyone, this is a for you

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 1>more advanced ees. I want you to try this. Whatever

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 1>your If you can do ten push ups, I want

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 1>you to try this. I want you to do ten

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>push ups in about ten seconds. So down, up, down,

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 1>up down like that tempo maybe one one a half seconds,

0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 1>so your ten reps take you ten to fifteen seconds.

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Now I want you to try this, and this is

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:07.840
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the scale. I want you to

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>go down. Count five, and I mean right down, so

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:16.760
<v Speaker 1>chest down to the ground but not touching the ground.

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Hands and feet not hands and knees. Down to the ground.

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Count to five, don't rush one, two, three, four, five,

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:32.840
<v Speaker 1>come back up down right. So we're doing ten reps.

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 1>So we're holding at the bottom times five seconds, and

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>then we chuck in another one or two seconds for

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 1>the up and down bit. Let's say two seconds. So

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 1>we're doing ten reps now, which is going to take

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:49.280
<v Speaker 1>somewhere around seventy seconds versus ten to fifteen. So we've

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:52.279
<v Speaker 1>just done the exact same exercise with the same weight

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 1>your body, the same movement, the same biomechanics. But what

0:36:56.560 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>we've done is we've made it exponentially harder because the

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:03.360
<v Speaker 1>time under tension doing the exact same thing with the

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 1>same weight and the same body and the same movement

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 1>has gone from ten to fifteen seconds to give or

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>take seventy seven zero seconds. And that is the really

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, So when you go oh went awhile I

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't have any equipment, There's so many ways that you

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:22.720
<v Speaker 1>can progress. There's so many ways that you can stem

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 1>your body, stimulate your body to adapt, and time underload

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>is a really clever way and also range of movement.

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, for those of you who for some of you,

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 1>this won't be a revelation, right, but I want you

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>to think about doing a regular body weight squat. And

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>so you start at the stop at the top, and

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>you go down bum to about you know, parallel or

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:54.320
<v Speaker 1>thigh to about parallel to the ground, so ninety degrees

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 1>at the knees, and you come up and then you

0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 1>stand up, then you go back down. So when we

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>stand at the top, you'll notice that your quads kind

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 1>of switch off, right, it's almost your skeleton keeping you

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 1>up right. So what I want you to do if

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 1>you want to try this. I want you to do

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 1>ten normal squats bodyweight squats again. If this is if

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:16.359
<v Speaker 1>you're up to it, if your bodies are right now,

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 1>all that you know, I say that with an asterisk, right,

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 1>So do ten, No, in fact, do twenty squats. Do

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 1>two zero, do twenty squats, and then give yourself a

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:30.880
<v Speaker 1>minute or two. Now I want you to come back,

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 1>and I want you to do the exact same thing.

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:37.360
<v Speaker 1>So go down, same body, same weight, exact same movement.

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Go down so your thighs are parallel or maybe even

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>a teensy weensy bit lower, But do not straighten up

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:46.800
<v Speaker 1>at the top. Come up so your knees are still

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 1>flexed at the top, So instead of coming all the

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 1>way back up, you come up about Instead of one

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent, not one hundred degrees, but one hundred percent up,

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:02.399
<v Speaker 1>you're ninety percent. So your quad's don't switch off, right,

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:05.880
<v Speaker 1>So try and do twenty of those where you don't

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 1>let your legs relax, you don't straighten up. Now, when

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 1>you do twenty of option one versus twenty of option two,

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 1>doing the exact same thing with a little bit of

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 1>a tweak, you will go oh my god, this is

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>about five times harder. Now, now when you introduce the

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 1>third variable or the next variable, do that exactly the

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:32.720
<v Speaker 1>same way, but slow it down. So instead of taking

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:38.239
<v Speaker 1>two seconds per rep, take six. So two seconds per

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 1>rep times twenty reps is forty seconds. Six seconds per

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>rep times twenty reps is two minutes, one hundred and

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty seconds. I doubt you will even make the two minutes.

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 1>You might, but if you do, well done you because

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 1>that's elite. Yeah. So that's a great question, TIF, And

0:39:56.360 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 1>that's a really good way to manipulate intensity and to

0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:05.400
<v Speaker 1>force adaptation without lifting heavier weights or having to even

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:07.360
<v Speaker 1>go to the gym.

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I've found it extremely beneficial on the days I'm not

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:15.280
<v Speaker 2>training with you, harps in doing pause reps at because

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a spotter, and so doing pause reps

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:20.400
<v Speaker 2>at the bottom end with things like bench press or

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 2>incliine press or shoulder press, and I've really noticed it

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:27.919
<v Speaker 2>helped me break through to be able to lift heavier.

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know what, like so many of the

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 1>things that we do, Like, think about this, everyone, how

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:36.360
<v Speaker 1>many people have you seen in the gym who do

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 1>a bench press that's literally half a bench press right now,

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to give you some fundamental science. So

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<v Speaker 1>without going too deep or weird, the easiest part of

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the bench press is the top half of the movement.

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 1>The top half of the movement, you've got the most

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:59.360
<v Speaker 1>power and the most leverage and the greatest biomechanical advantage.

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Where you are the weakest in terms of strength to

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 1>do that move is at the very bottom of the movement.

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:10.719
<v Speaker 1>You are at a biomechanical disadvantage, You've got the least leverage,

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:14.319
<v Speaker 1>and it's the hardest to move the weight. Now, what

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 1>if you did this. What if you went into the

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 1>gym and you got old mate who bench presses one

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 1>hundred kilos for ten top reps and we all know

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 1>what I'm talking about. One hundred kilos ten reps, but

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 1>they're only half, and it's the top half. If you

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:31.280
<v Speaker 1>tried to get old mate to do the same weight

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 1>only doing the bottom half, very unlikely that he would

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 1>get five. Right, So, whole range of movement, like we

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 1>want one hundred percent of the movement come down, touch

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 1>the bar on the chest, or if you want to

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>increase intensity and like tift off in trains without a

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 1>spotter or a partner. Go down, hold the weight just

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 1>above your chest, like two milimeters, so it's not resting

0:41:57.080 --> 0:41:59.759
<v Speaker 1>on your chest. Count to three or five, and then

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:03.919
<v Speaker 1>take a back up again, same movement, same weight, much

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>different effect.

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:09.839
<v Speaker 2>And how hard should we train? And how should we

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:13.680
<v Speaker 2>or should we periodize train? Yeah?

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Cool? So I think, you know, once we get past

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 1>a point. Remember, so, I think there's something else in

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 1>there about intensity, So let's talk about intensity and relative

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>intensity and how hard. Let's answer that in the same question. So,

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean hard is relative to the individual. So Tiff

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 1>just benched sixty five kilos. Go Tiff. Now Tiff is

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:46.960
<v Speaker 1>a a drug free she's using a bit of testosterone cream,

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:48.799
<v Speaker 1>which she spoken about. Are you're still doing that or no?

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, that's a very small dose.

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 1>But she's doing a therapeutic I mean this respectfully female

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:58.440
<v Speaker 1>dose that a doctor's prescribed. Right. She's not on the pause,

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 1>not for yeah, yeah, yeah, she's not on the gear,

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 1>she's not taking any performance enhancing in inverted commas. Right.

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:13.560
<v Speaker 1>So for a forty two year old, you know, regular

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:18.320
<v Speaker 1>member of society to bench press sixty five kilos is

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 1>fucking amazing, right, But all that tells me is that one.

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:25.319
<v Speaker 1>You've got pretty good genetics, but do you train in

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 1>a way where you force your body to be somewhere

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:33.280
<v Speaker 1>near optimal? And that is because you're okay with pain,

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:41.320
<v Speaker 1>You're okay with dom's post exercise soreness or delayed onset muscles, horness, whatever,

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and you are very consistent and your diet is mostly

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 1>good except for the muffins.

0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 2>Their cookies and they're so worth it.

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:54.360
<v Speaker 1>And your attitude sometimes is fucked. So it's a miracle

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 1>that you get the results you do.

0:43:55.880 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 2>But no, I'm just saying that's fair, that's yeah, yeah,

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah.

0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>But the bottom line is, you know, I think that

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 1>for those of you who go I want to opt,

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:10.640
<v Speaker 1>not just like I'm just happy to show up and

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:13.280
<v Speaker 1>which is fine, by the way, and have some muscle

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:16.280
<v Speaker 1>and sweat a bit and do work out and gradually

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 1>improve over time, which I think is an absolutely fair

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 1>and reasonable goal, nothing at all bad about that. But

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 1>for those of you, go, fuck it. I want to

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:27.799
<v Speaker 1>I want to take myself for a bit of a

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 1>test drive and see what's possible. I want to see

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 1>what I can do at my age with my body.

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be reckless. I don't want to

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 1>be put myself in harm's way. But what I do

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:43.360
<v Speaker 1>want to do is what I want to do is

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:46.360
<v Speaker 1>see how strong I could get, or how fast I

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 1>could run that distance, or how quick I could swim

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 1>that distance, or how wide I could get into side

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:56.800
<v Speaker 1>splits or front splits or whatever it is, like, whatever

0:44:56.840 --> 0:45:01.040
<v Speaker 1>the fitness variable is, right. So I think the best

0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 1>way to do that is to be really methodical and

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:06.759
<v Speaker 1>to track everything that you do with whatever it is

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the thing that you're trying to become more elite at.

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 1>So if it's strength, track your workouts, sets, reps, volume, weight,

0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 1>recovery time, because it's in the tracking, and it's in

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:22.920
<v Speaker 1>the paying attention, and it's in the doing the work,

0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:25.319
<v Speaker 1>and bring it all together in that way that you

0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:27.960
<v Speaker 1>will figure out what's optimal for you and what's not.

0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:31.959
<v Speaker 1>Because even someone who's trained, you know all the people

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I've trained, if I sat down with you and I

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:36.239
<v Speaker 1>looked at you, and even if I did an assessment

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:38.080
<v Speaker 1>on you and you told me about your goals and

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:42.919
<v Speaker 1>your background, when I write you a program, it's still

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 1>a very educated guess. I don't know exactly what the

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 1>outcome will be because I don't know. I don't know

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:54.359
<v Speaker 1>your physiology, I don't know your genetics, I don't know

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:57.840
<v Speaker 1>your immune system. I don't know your capacity inside out.

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:01.760
<v Speaker 1>But time will telp so by the time. Like for example,

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 1>when I trained people for years, which I did, I

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:08.719
<v Speaker 1>knew exactly how their body would respond to pretty much

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:12.320
<v Speaker 1>any stimuli because I just work with them for so long.

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:16.759
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, high level trial and error we call it.

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know if you can if I wanted to

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:22.440
<v Speaker 1>quantify it a little bit, let's say you can do

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:25.800
<v Speaker 1>a movement really well with good form safely, any movement

0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 1>in the gym. Now we're talking about strength. If you

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:34.720
<v Speaker 1>can do fifteen of those with good form, reduce the reps,

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:37.719
<v Speaker 1>increase the weight. If that's what you want, if you're

0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 1>in this, I want to get more muscle and stronger

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:42.840
<v Speaker 1>and more powerful, then lower the reps, increase the weight.

0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 1>And it's sometimes that workout is not as fulfilling in

0:46:47.600 --> 0:46:50.840
<v Speaker 1>the moment because you almost feel like you're cheating because

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:53.759
<v Speaker 1>you're having more recovery time and you're not doing as

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:57.319
<v Speaker 1>much volume. But all we're trying to do, especially when

0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:00.440
<v Speaker 1>we talk about strength, all we're trying to do when

0:47:00.480 --> 0:47:05.120
<v Speaker 1>we exercise is literally just stimulate our body to respond

0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:10.320
<v Speaker 1>a certain way, and all increased strength is adaptation, increased

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:14.280
<v Speaker 1>hyperch free muscle mass, adaptation, better range of movement around

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the joint, adaptation, lower heart rate, adaptation, being able to

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:22.480
<v Speaker 1>improve your VO two max, your lung capacity, your performance

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:29.239
<v Speaker 1>capacity aerobically, adaptation, you know, losing body fat adaptation. What

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 1>do we do. We increase expenditure, we decrease calories perhaps

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>or both of those, or one of those, and we

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 1>see our body composition changes. We lose fat, we build muscle.

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:42.319
<v Speaker 1>What's that? It's adaptation to a stimulus or stimuli. It's

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 1>all the same thing, express differently. Let's do Oh wow,

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:51.759
<v Speaker 1>we've been. Let's do three more. Unless you want to

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 1>do more, Let's.

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Do three Okay, I'd like to talk about recovery there,

0:47:56.239 --> 0:47:59.879
<v Speaker 2>So how many days a week should we can we

0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 2>and if we're going to do more rather than less,

0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:05.279
<v Speaker 2>how do we manage our recovery?

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's good. So I'm going to just I feel

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:13.319
<v Speaker 1>like most people listening to this will be more about

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:16.360
<v Speaker 1>gym stuff rather than general stuff, and I could be wrong,

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:19.880
<v Speaker 1>but so let me talk about gym stuff to start.

0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:27.000
<v Speaker 1>So now there's a thing in thing in strength training

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:29.960
<v Speaker 1>called split routine or a split workout where we train

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:33.360
<v Speaker 1>different muscle groups over day different days. So I'm writing

0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 1>this in front of me. So let's say, let's say Monday,

0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I do all pushing movements. So I do bench press.

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Some Monday's pushing. I do bench press, I do shoulder press,

0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I do dips, I do incline press. I might do

0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:53.440
<v Speaker 1>some flies in there which are not a pressing movement,

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 1>a pushing movement, but they're not a pulling movement. All

0:48:57.640 --> 0:48:59.880
<v Speaker 1>upper body pushing. And then day two I might do

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:00.960
<v Speaker 1>all upper body.

0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Day two, I'm going to do legs. Day two, I'm

0:49:04.120 --> 0:49:05.799
<v Speaker 1>going to do legs and lower back. I'm going to

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:08.560
<v Speaker 1>give my upper body a complete day of rest. Day

0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:12.239
<v Speaker 1>two is lower body. Day three, I'm now back to

0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:16.200
<v Speaker 1>upper body and I'm doing but instead of pushing movements,

0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:19.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing pulling and or elbow flexion movements. So all

0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 1>pushing movements is elbow extension where we're straightening the elbow,

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:30.399
<v Speaker 1>and all pulling movements is elbow flexion, just like doing

0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:34.759
<v Speaker 1>a barbell curl is flexing is narrowing the gap at

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:39.160
<v Speaker 1>the elbow or reducing the angle. All pulling movements are

0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 1>unless we're talking about straight arm pulling a weight from

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:46.520
<v Speaker 1>the floor. But as we understand, generally pulling is biceps

0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and bracalis and back, so nearly all back exercises are

0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:55.839
<v Speaker 1>pulling movements, and we can alternate that. So what we're

0:49:55.880 --> 0:50:00.560
<v Speaker 1>doing is day one pushing stuff, Day two lower body,

0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:03.840
<v Speaker 1>so no upper body. Day three back to upper body,

0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:07.920
<v Speaker 1>but now we're pulling stuff. Day four we might have

0:50:09.000 --> 0:50:11.359
<v Speaker 1>a day off, so we would call this three on

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:14.759
<v Speaker 1>one off as a split routine, and then day five

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:17.200
<v Speaker 1>we come back to pushing stuff with our upper body.

0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Day six we're back to pushing stuff for lifting stuff

0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:25.279
<v Speaker 1>with our lower body, and then day seven in this

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:28.520
<v Speaker 1>routine we would be back to upper body pulling, and

0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 1>then day eight, So it's a four day cycle of

0:50:31.160 --> 0:50:34.200
<v Speaker 1>three days on one day off. It's a four day rotation.

0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:36.920
<v Speaker 1>But I mean I just gave you an example. You

0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:39.080
<v Speaker 1>could break that up a million ways. So what that

0:50:39.200 --> 0:50:42.120
<v Speaker 1>means is we're actually training a lot, but we're still

0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:47.120
<v Speaker 1>allowing For example, my upper body pushing muscles are getting

0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:51.279
<v Speaker 1>three days rest, my legs are getting three days rest.

0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:54.680
<v Speaker 1>My legs and lower body, my upper body pulling muscles

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 1>are getting you know, we could break this up differently.

0:50:57.640 --> 0:51:01.000
<v Speaker 1>We could go, I'm doing all the muscles on the

0:51:01.200 --> 0:51:03.360
<v Speaker 1>front of my lower body and the muscles on the

0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:06.319
<v Speaker 1>back of my lower body. So day one is you know,

0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 1>squats and leg press and leg extension, which is not

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:14.680
<v Speaker 1>only but primarily quads, and day two I could be

0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:21.840
<v Speaker 1>doing calf raises and hip thrusts and leg curls and

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:24.760
<v Speaker 1>all the stuff that's working my ars and hamstrings and calves.

0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:28.919
<v Speaker 1>So we can break it up really however we want,

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:31.320
<v Speaker 1>And there's a way to be pretty consistent with training

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:35.719
<v Speaker 1>where we're not overloading. Failing that, if you go, fuck that,

0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't have that time, then I would suggest that

0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 1>you do maybe a full body workout and you do

0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:46.040
<v Speaker 1>it every second or third day. But if you are

0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:50.080
<v Speaker 1>to all the more advanced end of the scale, I'll

0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:54.320
<v Speaker 1>be training hard. I'd be picking five or six multi

0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:58.600
<v Speaker 1>joint that is, compound movements that pretty much encompass my

0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:02.440
<v Speaker 1>whole body. Going in on Monday, I'd be smashing myself

0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:06.240
<v Speaker 1>in a smart way. I'd be having Tuesday, maybe Wednesday

0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:09.440
<v Speaker 1>off and then hitting the repeat button. So there's a

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:12.920
<v Speaker 1>myriad of ways and then back to your question about

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:17.400
<v Speaker 1>periodization over over time. So you asked, I don't know

0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:21.000
<v Speaker 1>if in this question or earlier, but periodization basically just

0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:27.040
<v Speaker 1>means that we have phases where we train differently. It

0:52:27.160 --> 0:52:29.920
<v Speaker 1>might be higher reps, lower weight, lower reps higher weight.

0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:33.480
<v Speaker 1>It might be working at like a loading phase where

0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm just building and building and building, and a tapering phase.

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:40.279
<v Speaker 1>In the loading phase, I'm really going balls to the wall,

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:44.040
<v Speaker 1>so to speak. I'm lifting heavy, I'm lifting often, I'm

0:52:44.080 --> 0:52:48.120
<v Speaker 1>getting myself pretty fatigued, but I'm building overall strength and

0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:51.239
<v Speaker 1>power and speed, whatever it is. And then I realized, let's,

0:52:51.239 --> 0:52:54.560
<v Speaker 1>for example, say, for example, a sprinter who's got an

0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:57.719
<v Speaker 1>event in six weeks, he or she would start to

0:52:57.840 --> 0:53:00.160
<v Speaker 1>taper it six weeks or four weeks to pen on

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:03.080
<v Speaker 1>the program and the coach, and then they would still

0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:06.640
<v Speaker 1>be training, but they're winding back the intensity. They're keeping

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:10.320
<v Speaker 1>what they've got while they're allowing their body to refresh somewhat.

0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:12.239
<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of science and a lot of

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:16.560
<v Speaker 1>logic that goes into that as well, and we can

0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:20.240
<v Speaker 1>also do that as general trainers. And there are days

0:53:20.280 --> 0:53:23.400
<v Speaker 1>where it's not periodization, but there are days where I

0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:25.280
<v Speaker 1>go into the gym, I feel great and I smash

0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:29.520
<v Speaker 1>myself because my body's Remember, biofeedback is your body telling

0:53:29.520 --> 0:53:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you what's up, for good or bad. Sometimes I go

0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:35.440
<v Speaker 1>into the gym, I'm pumped, I'm excited, I'm full of energy.

0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:38.359
<v Speaker 1>Other days I go in I'm not feeling it. It's

0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:42.720
<v Speaker 1>not emotionally psychologically, it's just that you know, my body's

0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:45.960
<v Speaker 1>not ten out of ten today, my body's six or seven.

0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:48.399
<v Speaker 1>So I'll train accordingly. I'll still train, but I'll pay

0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:51.000
<v Speaker 1>attention to the data.

0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:54.400
<v Speaker 2>How often should we be attempting one rep max for

0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:58.600
<v Speaker 2>our large compound movements and training to failure reps.

0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I think most people probably don't ever need to do

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:07.439
<v Speaker 1>one rms, but I think people who want to. I'm

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:11.120
<v Speaker 1>going to say, and this is just bro science with

0:54:12.239 --> 0:54:15.560
<v Speaker 1>power athletes and strength athletes, and by that I mean

0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:19.080
<v Speaker 1>you know people who compete in strength events per se

0:54:19.200 --> 0:54:23.480
<v Speaker 1>or power events per se. But then also you know runners, sprinters,

0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:32.439
<v Speaker 1>that's their power athletes, footballers are even netballers who they

0:54:32.560 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 1>need to be strong and powerful and have great speed

0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and lateral movement and acceleration. One rms are great, but

0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:43.799
<v Speaker 1>they are the highest risk thing you can do in

0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:48.719
<v Speaker 1>a gym other than training badly. So I wouldn't do

0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:52.360
<v Speaker 1>a one RM these days for obvious reasons. But I

0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:55.759
<v Speaker 1>think if you're fit and strong and relatively injury free,

0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:59.800
<v Speaker 1>and you warm up and everything's done well, the actual

0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:02.799
<v Speaker 1>answer is anyone can do one RMS if they're in

0:55:03.480 --> 0:55:06.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, good nick. But as an athlete who just

0:55:06.880 --> 0:55:10.000
<v Speaker 1>wants to check where they're at, I would maybe do

0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:16.839
<v Speaker 1>one RM, one RM or a more. I'm more likely

0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:19.840
<v Speaker 1>to do two or three rms than one because it

0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:22.920
<v Speaker 1>still gives us a real insight into absolute strength. But

0:55:23.000 --> 0:55:26.000
<v Speaker 1>what it does is it just gives us a baseline.

0:55:26.040 --> 0:55:27.799
<v Speaker 1>And you know, if I did it today, I would

0:55:27.800 --> 0:55:31.160
<v Speaker 1>go along the thirtieth of August twenty twenty five, I

0:55:31.239 --> 0:55:36.520
<v Speaker 1>did this, and then moving forward, I've got I've got

0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:40.440
<v Speaker 1>something to compare myself to, which is the only person

0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I should compare myself to.

0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:49.799
<v Speaker 2>I've got a couple more. How do you suggest integrating

0:55:50.040 --> 0:55:53.880
<v Speaker 2>cardio for those who want to implement cardio into that training?

0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:56.000
<v Speaker 2>How do we do cardio and rest? And is there

0:55:56.000 --> 0:55:57.480
<v Speaker 2>a preferred style of cardio?

0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So, I mean you and I have spoken before

0:56:02.120 --> 0:56:05.560
<v Speaker 1>about you know, slow steady, you know, more kind of

0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:12.480
<v Speaker 1>aerobic endurancy stuff versus interval training. But for people, remember

0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:14.440
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about people are at the pointerier end of

0:56:14.440 --> 0:56:18.799
<v Speaker 1>the scale. I prefer this is just my preference. But

0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:21.319
<v Speaker 1>and again it depends on what you're training for. But

0:56:21.400 --> 0:56:23.759
<v Speaker 1>if you're doing cardio just because you kind of have

0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:31.120
<v Speaker 1>to do cardio from cardiovascular VO two max absolute fitness perspective,

0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:36.080
<v Speaker 1>we know that that you can get more aerobic benefit

0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:40.000
<v Speaker 1>in a way shorter amount of time than going for

0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:42.560
<v Speaker 1>a thirty minute plot every day of the week. Nothing

0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:45.360
<v Speaker 1>wrong with thirty minute plods right by the way, I

0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:47.160
<v Speaker 1>walk for the best part of an hour and a

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:50.400
<v Speaker 1>half a day, which is definitely not intense. But if

0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:54.240
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about I want the best bang for buck,

0:56:56.120 --> 0:56:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the best bang for buck is going to be interval

0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:01.080
<v Speaker 1>training where you are doing Let me give you an

0:57:01.120 --> 0:57:03.640
<v Speaker 1>example of what I'm talking about. This is again just

0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:08.160
<v Speaker 1>an example. Let me give you a fifteen minute program.

0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:11.080
<v Speaker 1>So fifteen minutes. I'm figuring this out as I go.

0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:13.120
<v Speaker 1>All right, so you jump on the bike, you warm

0:57:13.200 --> 0:57:17.400
<v Speaker 1>up for three minutes, and you're just steady state you're

0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:20.480
<v Speaker 1>warming up. This protocol could be used for a stepper,

0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:25.160
<v Speaker 1>for a grinder, for an air walker, for a ski erg,

0:57:25.880 --> 0:57:29.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, cross trainer, whatever. This this protocol so for

0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:32.640
<v Speaker 1>three minutes. Also it could be used on a treadmill,

0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:35.200
<v Speaker 1>and also it could be used running outdoors. So three

0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:40.160
<v Speaker 1>minutes is just steady state, getting blood moving, getting your breath,

0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:42.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of warming into it. So then at

0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:45.280
<v Speaker 1>the four minute mark, remember this is just an example,

0:57:45.440 --> 0:57:49.280
<v Speaker 1>and you need to be at a reasonably advanced level.

0:57:51.080 --> 0:57:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Let's go with twenty seconds hard hard, not hard ish,

0:57:57.040 --> 0:58:01.960
<v Speaker 1>not kind of hard hard. And when you finish that

0:58:02.000 --> 0:58:04.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty seconds, if I offered you fifty bucks to be

0:58:04.640 --> 0:58:08.080
<v Speaker 1>able to stretch it to thirty, you couldn't. Right, if

0:58:08.080 --> 0:58:10.880
<v Speaker 1>you could have done another hard ten seconds, it's not

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:14.480
<v Speaker 1>hard enough. At the end of the twenty you should

0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:17.920
<v Speaker 1>be pretty fucked. Again, this is not a personal recommendation,

0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:20.560
<v Speaker 1>but I'm talking for people in this space. Then you'd

0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:23.360
<v Speaker 1>so we go what we do is three minutes warm up,

0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and then we would go from minute three up two

0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:30.680
<v Speaker 1>minutes thirteen. So that gives us ten minutes. We're going

0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:35.720
<v Speaker 1>to do twenty on flat knacker, forty off slow, slow

0:58:35.760 --> 0:58:38.200
<v Speaker 1>pedaling or whatever it is. We're still moving we're not

0:58:38.320 --> 0:58:41.720
<v Speaker 1>doing nothing, but we've gone from flat out to one

0:58:41.800 --> 0:58:45.040
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent to twenty or thirty percent. We're just moving.

0:58:46.040 --> 0:58:50.000
<v Speaker 1>So the works ratio is once two, so twenty seconds working,

0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:54.920
<v Speaker 1>forty seconds recovering. Now your time's that by ten minutes, well,

0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:58.240
<v Speaker 1>ten minutes times twenty seconds flat out as two hundred seconds,

0:58:59.000 --> 0:59:03.080
<v Speaker 1>so two hundred second is three minutes and twenty seconds. Now,

0:59:03.840 --> 0:59:06.600
<v Speaker 1>So in a fifteen minute program, by the way, we

0:59:06.680 --> 0:59:09.920
<v Speaker 1>finished that at thirteen minutes, and the last two minutes

0:59:09.960 --> 0:59:12.160
<v Speaker 1>it takes us up to fifteen is just a steady

0:59:12.200 --> 0:59:15.640
<v Speaker 1>state pedal or run or ski or row or whatever

0:59:15.640 --> 0:59:17.840
<v Speaker 1>it is that you're doing. But what that means is

0:59:18.720 --> 0:59:22.800
<v Speaker 1>in a fifteen minute program, you have worked somewhere near

0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:27.120
<v Speaker 1>max for three minutes and twenty seconds and you have

0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:33.760
<v Speaker 1>not worked near max for eleven minutes and forty seconds.

0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:36.560
<v Speaker 1>So of the fifteen minute program, you're working hard for

0:59:36.640 --> 0:59:39.880
<v Speaker 1>three to twenty. Now, that seems like an easy PSY

0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:42.600
<v Speaker 1>program until you do it. And if you do that

0:59:42.720 --> 0:59:45.240
<v Speaker 1>program and you find it easy, you're not doing the

0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:49.000
<v Speaker 1>program right. Because I could take an AFL footballer put

0:59:49.000 --> 0:59:52.800
<v Speaker 1>them through that, or a National League netball player, somebody

0:59:52.840 --> 0:59:55.680
<v Speaker 1>who is a paid athlete and an elite athlete who

0:59:55.720 --> 0:59:59.520
<v Speaker 1>is aerobically good. Put them through what I would call

0:59:59.640 --> 1:00:03.640
<v Speaker 1>the right version of that, and they might have an

1:00:03.720 --> 1:00:05.200
<v Speaker 1>uncle buck at the end of it.

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<v Speaker 2>They're my favorite outcomes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah for me. For Michael, I used to do this

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<v Speaker 1>with back in the day. I had a training partner,

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<v Speaker 1>not the crab, another one. We used to smash ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is not glamorous everybody, but one of us,

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<v Speaker 1>what Nelly, Every session one of us would spew and

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<v Speaker 1>all the other one would do is stand there laughing

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<v Speaker 1>and pointing hysterically like absolutely fucking zero empathy or care.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good effort for a conditioned, trained athlete to

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<v Speaker 2>repeatedly be able to oh, yeah, spew.

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<v Speaker 1>Terrory, yeah, well me and.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I say good effort, that's fucking ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we used to do this again. I'm not recommending

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<v Speaker 1>this anyone this in fact, do not do this. But

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<v Speaker 1>we used to do one hundred pound leg press, so

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<v Speaker 1>fifty pound plates so not heavy, but we used to

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<v Speaker 1>do ten sets of one hundred people.

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<v Speaker 2>That aren't eighty two Can you convert that to kilograms?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, forty five kilos, So we do forty five give

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<v Speaker 1>or take kilos one hundred reps, no rest, alternating times ten.

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<v Speaker 1>So i'd do one hundred to head, do one hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd do one hundred of head, do one hundred. And

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<v Speaker 1>we used to do this at my gym, so we weren't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but we would literally, if you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>queasy stomach, turn off now and you decide to stay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's on you. We would take a bin with a

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<v Speaker 1>bin liner brand new, and nearly every time that would

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<v Speaker 1>not be brand new by the time.

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<v Speaker 2>We finished psychopaths.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and that that's true. That's not me trying

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<v Speaker 1>to sound like, yeah, we just did that, and we

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<v Speaker 1>just and before you send me an email and go, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just stupid. Yes, yes it is. That's why I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do it. But the dumb shit that I did

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<v Speaker 1>when I was young in kind of an endeavor to

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<v Speaker 1>see what my fucking outer limits were, you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was fun. Like I would never recommend that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I love that shit. I would never recommend it personally

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<v Speaker 1>or professionally, but yeah, I just love that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to die. But the most I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to digress for sixty seconds and tell you a funny story.

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<v Speaker 1>My ex, one of my business partners, Mike Salisbury, good dude,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to Sulzi. He we were talking about running

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<v Speaker 1>a marathon and it came up in the this is

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to fucking cack at this. It came up

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<v Speaker 1>in the conversation. We're talking about hydration and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he suggested or I suggest or as a

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<v Speaker 1>hypothetical might have been me where I said, imagine if

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<v Speaker 1>all you drank when you were doing your marathon was booze, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because as you sweat, your blood volume decreases and you're

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<v Speaker 1>putting all this booze on board. I'm like, I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>what would happen. And he's like, oh, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. I'm like, no, I don't. I don't think that.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I'm going to do it. So he did it.

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<v Speaker 1>So we mapped out a seven k distance along Beach Road,

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<v Speaker 1>the bike track, and he had a stubby I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what that is, three hundred and seventy five mil

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<v Speaker 1>a beer at the start. Then he had one at seven, one,

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<v Speaker 1>at fourteen, one, at twenty one, one, at twenty eight, one,

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<v Speaker 1>at thirty five and one at forty two. So he

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<v Speaker 1>whatever that is seven stubbies and drank no water. Now, also,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone do not do this. And you're right, boys are

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<v Speaker 1>fucked in the head. And I know all you mums

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<v Speaker 1>who listen, who are loving mums, you're going, what the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck is wrong with you? I agree?

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<v Speaker 2>Wrong, we think you're this straighty one eighty no angel,

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<v Speaker 2>that's never drank. But then you're pumping that into people

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<v Speaker 2>that do a marathons. You.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't encourage him a lot, Yeah I did. I

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<v Speaker 1>was curious about what would happen. And let's just say

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<v Speaker 1>he was not very good having drunk seven beers and

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<v Speaker 1>run forty two kilometers. He wasn't great. He was not

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<v Speaker 1>in a great way for a day or two. But

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<v Speaker 1>science tif science, you know, I mean, it's all for

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<v Speaker 1>the greater good.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, One last question I reckon for people rest

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<v Speaker 2>and deconditioning. Do you think that it is beneficial for

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<v Speaker 2>people to have a bit of a break at times

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<v Speaker 2>completely and or when they do, how long before we

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<v Speaker 2>start to decondition.

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<v Speaker 1>We start? Well, okay, here's a really good example. An

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<v Speaker 1>athlete breaks their their leg gets put in a plaster.

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<v Speaker 1>When they put on the plaster that it's tight, within

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<v Speaker 1>a few days it's loose. Maybe let's exclude swelling. But

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<v Speaker 1>from the moment that you make something immobilized, it starts

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<v Speaker 1>losing muscle, like within twenty four hours. So that's the

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<v Speaker 1>extreme end of the case or the scale. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is quite quickly. So if you say, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I want to have four weeks off the gym,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, great, just don't do nothing like be active,

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<v Speaker 1>walk more, stretch a bit. Just don't go from high

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<v Speaker 1>activity to zero activity because that is literally bad for

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<v Speaker 1>your health. Right, So yeah, but definitely, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you train, if you've trained for a long time

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<v Speaker 1>and you go, I just want to give my joints

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<v Speaker 1>and muscles and ligaments and tendons of break, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you've been running for fucking twenty years. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've been running for twenty years, the chances of

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<v Speaker 1>you having a week or two off of minimal because

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<v Speaker 1>you're a weirdo and like most people who run every

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<v Speaker 1>day something of an addict, you're not really a wido.

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<v Speaker 1>But like this is the thing. In fact, for many

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<v Speaker 1>people tip who have trained for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Me included, it would probably be good for my body

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<v Speaker 1>to have two weeks of no lifting weights. Chances of

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<v Speaker 1>that happening as zero. What it was, I'm emotional.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my early fights, I had a trip to Kakadu,

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<v Speaker 2>so we went away, so I couldn't train and I

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<v Speaker 2>was coming back ten days before the fight. Actually no,

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<v Speaker 2>Also another one of my last fights as well, I

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<v Speaker 2>went to Bali and came back ten days before the fight,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't do any boxing over there, and I

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<v Speaker 2>felt fresh out. And that was just showing me how

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<v Speaker 2>my which I had pushed for so long with adequate

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<v Speaker 2>recovery because that was back when I had gyms and

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<v Speaker 2>businesses and I wasn't. It was very overstimulated in other

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<v Speaker 2>areas of my life. Ye, so that was really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I mean that is just information. Like for you,

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<v Speaker 1>I would go okay, because the biggest challenge for people

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<v Speaker 1>who train a lot, me included, it's not biology, it's psychology.

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<v Speaker 1>It's emotion. It's like, oh no, I'm not not training.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not not because it's we're addicted. Am I addicted? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not crazy. You know. Yesterday I was away, I

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<v Speaker 1>was in mil Jura. I was busy all day. I

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<v Speaker 1>did not even look at a dumb belt, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>can I not go? Of course I can, and but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I would probably do that five days a year,

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<v Speaker 1>But if I had to do it twenty I would.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if something happened in my life and I

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<v Speaker 1>could only get to the gym every other day, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be fine. But I don't need to do that. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you said you've got to have two weeks of

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<v Speaker 1>not lifting a weight for a medical reason, I would

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<v Speaker 1>do that, but I would not enjoy that. I would

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<v Speaker 1>not just do it. But that's again I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>be like me, But that's why I mean, Like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is why I love building habits that, for the most

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<v Speaker 1>part work for you. Like if one of your habits

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<v Speaker 1>is that you lift weights most days of your life,

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<v Speaker 1>well it's not a terrible habits have as long as

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<v Speaker 1>there's intelligence thrown into the process. Like, there are way

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<v Speaker 1>worse habits than lifting heavy shit. There are way worse

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<v Speaker 1>habits than going for a walk every day or a

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<v Speaker 1>run or stretching every day, or you know. I think

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<v Speaker 1>when people go, oh, you're obsessed or you're this, or

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<v Speaker 1>you're that, and I'm like well, I'm not. But from

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<v Speaker 1>where you stand by your you know, your fucking gauge, well,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, but no disrespect, you know, Like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't say what I want to say, But you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the people that are critical of that have

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<v Speaker 1>been critical of me over the years because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>eat this and I don't do that, like despite the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that it clearly works, right, you know, in that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm touchwood, relatively healthy and functional, operational, and I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>my sixties and you know, and I but but then

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<v Speaker 1>when people criticize you for doing the thing that works

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<v Speaker 1>while living in a body that clearly isn't working optimally,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much stuff you go, no, I just I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just take it, you know. I'm like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why people feel compelled. Well I do because it makes

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<v Speaker 1>them feel better about what they're not doing. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you're the one that's the idiot, then they're not the idiot,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's more comfortable. Yeah, it's been great.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think we covered everything that I think that

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we did a recently good job. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to admit that halfway through the episode my left

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<v Speaker 1>ear blocked. I have this thing everybody, some of you

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<v Speaker 1>have heard but called I think it's called ustation tube

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<v Speaker 1>dysfunction and I'm going that. I tell you, Tiff, people

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to know this, but fuck it, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to the urologist on Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very proud of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's very big for me to go to a

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<v Speaker 1>doctor because I'm a little bit of a baby boo.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's all right, it'll sort itself out. I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>fucking jog it out. Well. Yes, I made the booking

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<v Speaker 1>last week, which was good, with a specialist with an

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<v Speaker 1>e NT in those throats specialists, which is great. And

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<v Speaker 1>I had one of the biggest challenges. I know we're finished,

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<v Speaker 1>but fuck it, this is for free everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I did, as you know. I went to Mildura yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke all day or most of the day, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, shout out to the folks in Mildura. Fucking

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot tell you how much I love Mildura and

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<v Speaker 1>how much I love the people. And they know this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to because I said this, it's like stepping

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<v Speaker 1>it's like visiting nineteen eighty five, and it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was great. They were great. But anyway, I spoke. I

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<v Speaker 1>started speaking at nine and spoke through most of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>and my left ear blocked, total blockage, like it just blocks,

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<v Speaker 1>like with air. It's not wax, it's not water, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I could only hear out of my right ear.

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<v Speaker 1>But what happens with this blockage is and now your

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<v Speaker 1>voice starts to echo in your head right. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>to say it's hard as an understatement, but you just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I can't magically unblock it. And then at

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<v Speaker 1>about I would say eleven thirty, and I spoke up

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<v Speaker 1>until three or four. At eleven thirty, both years blocked.

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<v Speaker 1>So now I've got my voice echoing in my head.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a room full of people looking at me.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to be interesting. I've got to be fully present.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that yesterday was while it was great and

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<v Speaker 1>they enjoyed it and beyond the block DearS, I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was one of the most challenging presentations I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever done in my life because it's literally like just

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<v Speaker 1>shoving I don't know, like almost those heavy duty headphones

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<v Speaker 1>where you wear on an industrial site and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>you can't hear anything. You know you're talking, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can't even really hear your own voice in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hear it reverberating in your head, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can't hear it in space in front of you. And

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<v Speaker 1>then when people are asking me questions, I'm just constantly saying,

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<v Speaker 1>could you repeat that? And they're literally ten feet away

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, how fucking old is this guy? I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry. I told him, I told him what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on. Yeah, they were great, But so I

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<v Speaker 1>hope by I think it's Monday too. I hope by

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<v Speaker 1>Monday three I have at least a solution or a plan.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm very excited. I'm very excited. All Right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been great. I know you've got a date tonight. Enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>your date, and you know, I hope you and he

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<v Speaker 1>just dance up in a storm because I know you

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<v Speaker 1>love dancing. And yeah, report back in next time. We chat.

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<v Speaker 1>We we