1 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fear and Greed business news you can use today. 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: CSL shares free fall amid a major shakeup for the 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: healthcare giant. Unions and business clash at the Economic Roundtable 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: in Canberra, and consumer sentiment saws to its highest level 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: in three years. Plus Woolies slashes prices and Canvas Valuation 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: gets a redesign. It is Wednesday, the twentieth of August 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. I'm Michael Thompson and good morning Natalie McDonald. 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: Good morning, Michael, Natalie. 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: The main story this morning. After six consecutive days of 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: setting records, the local share market slumped yesterday and it 11 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: was led by a massive fall in the boss's third 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: largest company. Shares in CSL experienced their biggest one day 13 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: fall ever as the biotech giant announced major changes. 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: It's a big shakeup for CSL, which is set to 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: cut almost three thousand staff globally fifteen percent of its 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: workforce in a bid to slash costs and offset challenges 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: the company faces from competition and geopolitical upheaval. As part 18 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: of the restructure, CSL will spin off its influenza vaccine 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: business into a separate ASX listed company. This year along 20 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: with changes to its core blood plasma and iron deficiency businesses, 21 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: announcing it had closed seven percent of its blood plasma 22 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: collection centers in the US. All up, the restructure is 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: expected to deliver cost savings of five hundred and fifteen 24 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: million dollars annually over the next three years. This side, 25 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: CSL posted a fourteen percent increase in underlying net profit 26 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: to three point three billion US dollars for the twelve 27 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 2: months to June thirty from two point nine to one 28 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 2: billion a year earlier, but its revenue came in below expectations. 29 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: Shares tumbled almost seventeen percent, call wiping twenty two billion 30 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: dollars off its market cap. 31 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you have a fall of that size from 32 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: a company of that size, it makes it very hard 33 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: for the market to have a good day, and that 34 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: was certainly the case yesterday. 35 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: Precisely, the Australian share market had its sharpest fall in 36 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: well weeks, led by healthcare stocks which punged eight point 37 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: seven percent, but with five out of the eleven sectors 38 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: traded in the red, there wasn't really too much sparkle 39 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 2: to be had. The local boss falling by sixty three 40 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: points or point seven percent to eight hundred and ninety 41 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: six oil and gas giant Santos, revealing a four week 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: delayed to a potential thirty six point four billion dollar 43 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: takeover by a consortium led by Abi Dabbi National Oil Company, 44 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: raising freshed douts about the deal. Some rare green on 45 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: screen though, coming from BHP, which we'll discuss in just 46 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: a moment, and the financials. 47 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: You really do have an issue with calling it ADNOK, 48 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company. There's just this allergy, 49 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: this aversion to initialisms and acronyms that we first noticed 50 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: last week when we started working with us. It's continuing 51 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: to develop. 52 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: Right wait until we get to the woolworth story. Woolworths 53 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: always never woollies. 54 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's an Australian thing to call it woolies. 55 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: I don't mean to make this a nationality thing, but 56 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: come on, are you you live here, you're pretty much Australian. 57 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: You've got to call it woolies. 58 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: One of us, one of. 59 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: Us exactly got to get to some of the other 60 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: big results yesterday because there were spoiled for results coming through. 61 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: Woodside needs a bit of a look. 62 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: Shares and Woodside fell two point eight percent after it 63 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: posted a twenty four percent drop in first half core profit. 64 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: Chief executive Meg O'Neil hit out at the Albanese government's 65 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: delays in approving an extension of the company's giant Northwest 66 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: Shelf project, saying the conditions the government wants to impose 67 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: are not technically feasible and are at odds with labour's 68 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: pushed to improve productivity and economic resilience. Challenger Bank Judo's 69 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: and Your net profit rose by twenty four percent to 70 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: eighty six point four million dollars for the year to 71 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: June thirty, driven by strong growth in loans and deposits. 72 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: The bank crediting its expansion into regional areas for the growth, 73 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: shares that point three percent at a dollar seventy six. 74 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: One thing that's interesting, though, is that while Judo Bank 75 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: is looking to lower interest rates and higher household incomes 76 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 2: to boost business and consumer spending, the company did also 77 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: warn of uncertainty stemming from global trade policy development. 78 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: Now you mentioned that we're going to talk about BHP. 79 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: Its share price closed up one point six percent yesterday 80 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: on news that A plans to cut spending on new. 81 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: Minds This is following a twenty six percent drop in 82 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: earnings and its smallest dividend in eight years, plus predictions 83 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: for easing iron ore prices, but the company's focus continues 84 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: to be a shift towards copper, with copper now making 85 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: up forty five percent of the group's earnings. 86 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is significant for a company that has been 87 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: built on iron ore for so long to now be 88 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,039 Speaker 1: shifting so much into copper. It is a major ma 89 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: transformation of the company. And while we're on the topic 90 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: of BHP, it's worth seeking around after the show as 91 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: part of our Fear and Greed Q and A. We 92 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: are speaking today with Vendita Pant who is the CFO 93 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: of BHP, and it's just a really interesting insight into 94 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: where that company is heading. Now. While we are talking results, 95 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: Natalie Ubs has come out with a warning that several 96 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: ASX blue chips could face reporting seasoned selloffs as kind 97 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: of stretched valuations start to clash with weaker earnings growth. 98 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 2: And what's the holding up Comnwealth Bank as the poster 99 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: child for this. Shares hit one hundred and ninety two 100 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: dollars in June before sliding five percent despite the company 101 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: posting a record ten point two five billion dollar profit, 102 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: the clincher being the results lacked the growth investors were after. 103 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: Jbhi FI and SGH holdings have also fallen as results 104 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: failed to match the hype. Other companies flagged as vulnerable 105 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: include NAB and SIEG, which I will recognize did actually 106 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: finish the day hired, but Lottery Court, Corporate Travel, nib 107 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: TPG and West Farmers also, as I say, in that 108 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: vulnerable category. In contrast, momentum is favoring the likes of Brambles, 109 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: zero Zip and Hub twenty four. According to bs fun 110 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: that I just say that it reflects a broader valuation rotation, 111 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: money flowing out of overpriced defensives into cheaper growth plays. 112 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: It's been a very numbers heavy start to the show, Natalie, 113 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: which means it's the perfect time to do business by numbers. 114 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: This is the top three numbers to know for the week, 115 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: brought to you by Zero. Find it at zero dot 116 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: com at slash au. Our first number this week is 117 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: seventeen percent. We just talked about it. That is the 118 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: fall in CSL share price yesterday, the company's biggest one 119 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: day slump ever. Our second number, I like this one 120 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: is twenty four. That is the number of attendees at 121 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: the Productivity round Table in Canberra, which I've got a 122 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: fairly kind of heavy burden to transform Australia and save 123 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: us from our productivity crisis. And our third number is 124 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: one hundred and ten dollars, which is how much households 125 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: stand to save after Woolly's later salvo in the supermarket 126 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: price war was We'll get to that one a little 127 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: bit later on. They are the three numbers to know 128 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: for the week, brought to you by zero. Will take 129 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: a quick break back in a moment with the rest 130 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: of the day's business news. Natalie, it is fifty calf's 131 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: on day one of the Economic Roundtable, after union leaders 132 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: pushed for a new tax on businesses to fund worker training, 133 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: with one employer labeling the proposal and I do apologize 134 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: for this if there are children in the car a 135 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: croc of shit. 136 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: I'm really pleased I put that in your scripting so 137 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: that I didn't have to say it. But yes, Michael, 138 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: you're right. Well, there was agreement on cutting nuisance tariffs, 139 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: bet at industry training coordination and improve career guidance. Employer 140 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: groups rejected a levy calling it ineffective. Instead, Business Council 141 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: of Australia CEO Broan Black and Australian industry groups in 142 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: As Willix said government funded incentives, not extra taxes, and 143 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: needed to support apprenticeships. Willix saying they tried to do 144 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: this in the nineteen nineties and it didn't work. The 145 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: Productivity Commission also did work on this and they said 146 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: it didn't work. Nobody saw where the money went. 147 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: And it was Innus Willis who had that line about 148 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: the very colorful description of what he thought of that. 149 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: It was just I wasn't going to out him, but okay, well. 150 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: I'm doing it for Bran Black, who who on occasion 151 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: listens to fear and greed, and I didn't want him 152 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: to think that we had kind of suggested that it 153 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: was him who had said that. So I'm just all 154 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: in the interest of accuracy, Natalie. Now, while we're on 155 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: the topic of the round table, Prime Minister Anthony Albernezi 156 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: has told attendees that ideas presented to the summit could 157 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: be taken to Cabinet within days of the talks wrapping up, 158 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: saying this is a quote, there'll be things we can 159 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: do immediately we know, as. 160 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: I mentioned that there's been discussion on so called nuisance 161 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: tariffs and agreement about recognizing migrant skills and qualifications and 162 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: the introduction of a road user charge, although Finance Minister 163 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: Katie Gallaher has said more discussion is needed. If we 164 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 2: look ahead today two this is going to be all 165 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: about productivity, focusing in on regulation, competition and AI and innovation, 166 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: with attendees to include ah triable C's Rod Simms and 167 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: BHP Australia President Geraldine Slattery. But certainly interesting to note 168 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: this idea of we could actually see something new happen 169 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: immediately off the. 170 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: Back of this, relatively quickly, which I think is quite exciting. Now, 171 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: how about a bit of good news. Australian consumer sentiment 172 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: has surged to its highest level in over three years, 173 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: lifted by a series of right cuts we've had three 174 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: of them now and easing cost of living pressures. 175 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: The Westpac Melbourne Institute survey showed the main Consumer Sentiment 176 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: Index JUNT five point seven percent to ninety eight point 177 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: five percent, its highest level since early twenty twenty two. 178 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 2: Now note ninety eight point five very very close to 179 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 2: one hundred now, While readings below one hundred do still 180 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: reflect more pessimists and optimists. The improvement suggests households are 181 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: feeling more positive about finances and the economy. Drilling down 182 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: into the why, gains were broad based, benefiting both mortgage 183 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 2: holders and renters. As falling interest rates eased mortgage stress 184 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 2: and tariff related uncertainty, households reported less anxiety about finances 185 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: and greater confidence in the economy over the next year. 186 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: Westpac forecast the Reserve Bank will maintain current rates at 187 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: its September meeting before a potential twenty five basis point 188 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: cut in November. 189 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: Now we've mentioned this next one a couple of times. 190 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: Natalie Wooley's or Woolworths as you like to say, is 191 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: stepping up the supermarket price war, expanding its lowest shelf 192 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: Price campaign to nearly seven hundred grossery items. 193 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: The move comes as household's face cost of living pressures 194 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: and as Coals and Aldi sharpen their own discount strategies. 195 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: Bulworth's say shoppers have saved about fifty million dollars since 196 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: the program began in May, and the latest cuts could 197 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 2: shave as much as one hundred and ten dollars off 198 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: a family's weekly shop, with items on the list ranging 199 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: from rice, pasta, saurce to musley and baby wipes. It's 200 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: the latest move in a fierce contest with Coles and Aldi, 201 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: as all three chains battle for cost conscious shoppers under 202 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 2: mounting political and consumer pressure. Bulworths and Coals are due 203 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: to report full year results next week. It'll be interesting 204 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 2: to see whether aggressive discounting boost customer loyalty or cuts 205 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: into margins. I feel like I know the answer. 206 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: Now this next one. Australian tech dialing Canvas valuation has 207 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: been given a multi billion dollar lift after venture capital 208 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: firm Blackbird revalued its stake in the company Following the 209 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: blockbuster IPO in the US of Canvas rival Figma. 210 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: Blackbird told investors it has marked up Canvas worth by 211 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: four twoteen and a half percent on its June figure, 212 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: adding about seven point one billion dollars. That takes the 213 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 2: design platform's implied valuation to sixty four point six billion 214 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: Australian dollars, up from forty nine billion last October. The decision, 215 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: as you say, was prompted by Figma's Nasdak debut earlier 216 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: this month, where shares soared from thirty three US dollars 217 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: to one hundred and fifteen, more than doubling its market 218 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: value to thirty eight billion US dollars. Blackbirds saying the 219 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: rally justified a reassessment of Canva, although don't get excited. 220 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: This shouldn't set a precedent for regular reevaluations, Blackbird has said. 221 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: Founded in twenty thirteen, Canva has long been touted as 222 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: an IPO target, but insiders have been quick to reaffirm 223 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 2: at the Unicorn, it's going to do things in its 224 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: own time, okay. 225 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: Turning to international news now in Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski 226 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: says he is ready for a face to face meeting 227 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: with Russian leader Vladimir Putin following a trilateral summit with 228 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: US President Donald Trump, So there's a few meetings to come. 229 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: This follows talks at the White House with Trump and 230 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: European leaders. 231 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 2: The discussions focused on security guarantees for Ukraine, possible territorial arrangements, 232 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: and steps to end the nearly four year conflict, with 233 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: Trump signaling US involvement alongside European nations. Trump was caught 234 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: on a hot mic telling French President Emmanuel mccron that 235 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: he believes Russian President Vladimir Putin wants to reach a 236 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: deal over Ukraine, in fact interrupting talks to cor Putin, 237 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: who agreed to a direct meeting with Zelenski within two weeks. 238 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: And finally, Novo Nordisk is slashing the US price of 239 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: a zempic, the diabetes drug which is used for weight loss, 240 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: cutting the monthly cost in half for patients who pay cash. 241 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: Now this is in the US. 242 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 2: Though, Yes, the diabetes med will sell for four hundred 243 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: and ninety nine US dollars through Novo's own pharmacy and 244 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: a new partnership with Gooderx Holdings. We go v its 245 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: sister weight loss drug, will also be offered at a 246 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: reduced price. The move follows years of political heat over 247 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: America's high drug costs. Both the Biden and Trump administration's 248 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 2: push Novo to act, although the company insists it has 249 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: not caved to political pressure. Instead, Novo Nordisk says the 250 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: goal is to give uninsured patients a safer, affordable option 251 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: in response to a spate of copycats flooding the market. Interestingly, 252 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: the decision comes just days after rival Eli Lilly raised 253 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: UK prices for its own obesity shot all right. 254 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: Up next is Fear and grad Q and A featuring 255 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: Vendita pant CFO at BHP speaking to us courtesy of 256 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: our friends at Osby's, Australia's leading provider of live and 257 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: on demand video the latest news in Australian business, markets, 258 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: economy and startups. Sign up for free at Osby's dot 259 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: com dot AU. 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