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Speaker 1: On Scorings Australia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panete Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panehee Show. I'm

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Speaker 3: Danikiti Giorgio coming up tonight. Australian federal police claim foreign

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Speaker 3: actors could be paying off local criminals to commit anti

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Speaker 3: Semitic attacks across the country. The Left inner spin over

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Speaker 3: Elon Musk's one armed gesture at Donald Trump's inauguration, Bartia

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Speaker 3: Unger Saden will tell us why it was not a

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Speaker 3: Nazi salute. Will Australia follow Trump's lead and recognize two

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Speaker 3: genders only? Stephanie Bastian will join us. Prince Harry's next

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Speaker 3: public legal battle with the press delayed. Darren Grimes is

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Speaker 3: standing by to tell us why, and of course Lefty's

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Speaker 3: losing it, including the deranged bishop who turned Donald Trump's

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Speaker 3: church service into an exorcism.

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Speaker 4: There are gay, lesbian and transgender children in Democratic Republic

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Speaker 4: and independent families.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Sky News contributor Peru mcsweden. Preu,

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Speaker 3: great to see you. Thank you so much for joining me.

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Speaker 3: We've got a lot to get through today, but I

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Speaker 3: want to start with this because Peter Dutton has declared

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Speaker 3: that he would be the better prime minister to deal

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Speaker 3: with US President Donald Trump a mid a worldwide political

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Speaker 3: revolution as voters decide they have had enough of the

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Speaker 3: WO agenda Hallelujah. In an interview with Sharry Markson here

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Speaker 3: on Sky News, the Liberal leader has predicted that political

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Speaker 3: correctness isn't cutting it anymore when people can't afford to

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Speaker 3: pay their bills and mortgage.

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Speaker 5: This is turning and I think there is going to

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Speaker 5: be a near revolution that comes with the Trump administration

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Speaker 5: in relation to a lot of the work issues that

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Speaker 5: might be fashionable in universities and at the ABC, but

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Speaker 5: that just aren't cutting it around kitchen tables at the

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Speaker 5: moment where people can't pay their bills under the Urbanezi

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Speaker 5: cost of living crisis.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just think he's absolutely spot on here. The

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Speaker 3: world is moving forward and Australia has to follow suit.

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Speaker 3: Is he right?

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Speaker 6: One hundred percent? You know, Trump really is an influencer.

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Speaker 6: We talk about influencers having you know, some sort of

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Speaker 6: impact on society, but this guy is going to really

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Speaker 6: do that.

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Speaker 1: Do you know?

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Speaker 6: Companies, big corporations spend millions of dollars on industrial psychologists

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Speaker 6: to tell them, you know what colors to merchandise with

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Speaker 6: what's going to make people respond, And sadly everybody was

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Speaker 6: following like Lemmings over this climate change staff, the woke stuff.

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Speaker 1: And here we've got.

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Speaker 6: Someone who's so strong and decisive who we can follow,

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Speaker 6: and our leaders need to have the guts to follow.

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Speaker 6: We know that Dutton does. We're seeing it around the

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Speaker 6: world and it's fantastic. It's a revolution. It's overdue and

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Speaker 6: I'm just so excited about it.

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Speaker 3: I am excited about it too. And finally, Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: is saying things that a lot of us have been

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Speaker 3: thinking for a very long time. But what he's saying

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Speaker 3: is actually no longer controversial. So I just hope Peter

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Speaker 3: Dutton follows suit. Now's the time to go big and

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Speaker 3: go bold, because the tide is certainly now. Look Australia's

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Speaker 3: top cop has acknowledged an escalation of anti semitism across

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Speaker 3: the country. This is the AFP Commissioner, Reese Kershaw. He's

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Speaker 3: labeled anti Semitism as a disease in our community that

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Speaker 3: needs to be aggressively attacked. It comes as the Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister has finally agreed to hold an emergency national Cabinet

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Speaker 3: meeting to deal with it. Well, you know we's been

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Speaker 3: drag kicking and screaming. At the time for a national

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Speaker 3: cabinet was a very long time ago. And don't forget

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Speaker 3: that their special envoy for anti Semitism recommended this week's

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Speaker 3: ago when he didn't do anything.

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Speaker 6: So why now, Well he was dragged, as you say,

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Speaker 6: kicking and screaming.

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Speaker 1: What we got out of it was pathetic.

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Speaker 6: A database, a record, I mean the Jewish community, the

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Speaker 6: jury has been I think it's in their annual report

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Speaker 6: report on all anti Semitic actions throughout the year. Anyway,

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Speaker 6: it's not as if we need that database. What we

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Speaker 6: need is not platitudes and words. We need actions, and

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Speaker 6: sadly we're still getting them. I mean, rees kirsh or

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Speaker 6: thank God is saying.

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Speaker 1: It is a disease. But what do you do with

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Speaker 1: the disease.

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Speaker 6: You treat it, You don't just keep talking about the disease.

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Speaker 1: And we need laws changed.

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Speaker 6: I mean they're now saying, okay, well, you know, the

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Speaker 6: various attorney generals are going to try and coordinate something.

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Speaker 1: It's turn little too late.

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Speaker 6: This is setting now and the fact that it's become

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Speaker 6: big business where we've got people. We're saying that it

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Speaker 6: could be sort of people paying by cryptocurrency these bad

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Speaker 1: Well, this is a business now and I don't know

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Speaker 1: how we're going to turn this around.

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Speaker 3: Well let's talk about this, because that's also come from

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Speaker 3: the AFP Commissioner Race Kershaw saying that the Force is

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Speaker 3: looking into whether overseas actors have paid local criminals using cryptocurrency,

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Speaker 3: as Proue just said, to carry out these anti Semitic

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Speaker 3: attacks in Australia. I've got to say this is a

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Speaker 3: very big claim here. This is a worry, it's a

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Speaker 3: big claim. Now. The Prime Minister, in my view needs

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Speaker 3: about this overseas threat, how much he knows about this threat,

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Speaker 3: but more importantly, what is he actually going to do

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Speaker 3: about him? Because where is it coming from? Is it

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Speaker 3: coming from a terror group? Who is This is now dangerous?

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Speaker 1: It really is dangerous.

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Speaker 6: The trouble is that anything that Albanezi has to say

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Speaker 6: on this topic is implausible.

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Speaker 1: We know where his heart is.

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Speaker 6: We know that his actions in the UN with Wong

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Speaker 6: it's all hollow stuff and he's behind the eight ball.

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Speaker 6: We don't trust him anymore. We know it's just platitudes.

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Speaker 6: We know he's just saying when he wants he thinks

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Speaker 6: we want him.

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Speaker 3: Well, he walks both sides of the street. He does

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Speaker 3: this issue, so WHI people are upset, So okay, well

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Speaker 3: I better come out and say something. He is textbook,

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Speaker 3: he's so he's so predictable. And the other issue is

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Speaker 3: and the Attorney General Mark Drafers who apparently are going

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Speaker 3: to represent Australia at an event commemorying the liberation of Auschwitz. Now,

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Speaker 3: Labor has since denied that Senator Sue Lines would lead

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Speaker 3: this delegation, following backlash due to her previous past horrible

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Speaker 3: criticism of Israel, But in an email revealed by Sky News,

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Speaker 3: it actually showed that Senator Lines had at one point

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Speaker 3: they've been exposed.

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Speaker 6: So did Alberanezi blatantly lie or is it just him

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Speaker 6: being true to form where he is never a cross

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Speaker 6: any brief. It's all show stuff and being the nice guy.

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Speaker 6: And oh this crap that no one's buying anymore to

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Speaker 6: this woman even to think about this woman leading a

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Speaker 1: Even going on a delegation. She shouldn't be going there.

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Speaker 3: And we've got nobody knows she's either the prime it's somebody,

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Speaker 6: Within exactly well, King Charles is going and all these

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Speaker 6: huge leaders are going.

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Speaker 1: Why is an Alban easy game?

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Speaker 6: But he wouldn't dare show his face because he knows

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Speaker 6: that he has no credibility when it comes to anything

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Speaker 6: to do with anti Semitism with Israel. And you know,

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Speaker 6: he's just walking again as you say, both sides of.

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Speaker 1: The street that look, the quicker we're rid of.

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Speaker 6: This man, the better, and he's going to just I

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Speaker 6: think it's going to be a triumphant victory for our friend,

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Speaker 6: the liberal leader Dunton, who for a minute I lost,

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Speaker 6: And I just think, good riddance, mate, because you really

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Speaker 6: have proven that you're a hollow man.

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Speaker 3: Totally, a very very hollow But this in particular, I

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Speaker 3: mean this is an important event and it deserves a

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Speaker 3: proper delegations that they can do another exactly. Now, we've

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Speaker 3: got to change pace a little bit here, We've got

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Speaker 3: to take you to this. This is some of my

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Speaker 3: favorite vision of the year. This is Donald Trump dancing

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Speaker 3: to the YMCA while holding a prop of sorts.

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Speaker 1: Have a look at this.

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Speaker 3: What an absolute legend he is. That Melania got into

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Speaker 3: it as well.

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Speaker 7: I know.

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Speaker 6: Look, I just love the fact he's such a shaman.

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Speaker 6: He knows what to give people. We all want to

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Speaker 6: see that. The haters will just use it against him.

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Speaker 6: He doesn't care feed them, feed them with this stuff.

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Speaker 6: So good on am I just love it. I could

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Speaker 6: watch it all the time. I just think it's so

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Speaker 6: captivating to watch this guy who's really just saying enough

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Speaker 6: yours to everybody.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to do what i want. I'm the boss leader.

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Speaker 3: Well, the yfca's call suddenly it's got up with the chart.

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Speaker 3: Love the dance and we love the sword quite prime right,

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Speaker 3: Profect Swain, good to see you too. I'm joining me

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Speaker 3: on the show to save me well. UK Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: Keir Starmer has congratulated Donald Trump on his inauguration in

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Speaker 3: a video message which lacked one thing enthusiasm.

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Speaker 8: On behalf of His Majesty's government and the United Kingdom.

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Speaker 8: I would like to send my warmest congratulations to President

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Speaker 8: Trump on his inauguration as the forty seventh President of

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Speaker 8: the United States. For centuries, the relationship between our two

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Speaker 8: nations has been one of collaboration, cooperation, and enduring partnership.

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Speaker 3: Well that's quite the turnaround from this.

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Speaker 8: Of course, I wouldn't want Donald Trump round for dinner,

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Speaker 8: but don't underestimate the danger to the world if Trump

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Speaker 8: is re elected this time around.

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Speaker 3: I'm anti Trump. Joining me now is gb News host

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Speaker 3: Darren Grimes, Darren, good to see you. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: joining me. It was as if Kostama was being held

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Speaker 3: at ransom to film his congratulation video. He wasn't invited

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Speaker 3: to the inauguration, and there are reports that the Prime

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Speaker 3: a visit to the White House and we'll have to

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Speaker 3: quote each humble pie before receiving an invitation. Darren, Why

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Speaker 3: is KaiOS Stamer just so on the back burner with

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Speaker 9: I mean you can tell, can't you between those two

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Speaker 9: videos that you just played there. The enthusiasm when he's

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Speaker 9: actually bashing Donald Trump compared to the enthusiasm when he's

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Speaker 9: there saying congratulations on winning the presidency that I never

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Speaker 9: thought you should have been able to stand for in

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Speaker 9: the first place. Because that clip there back in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 9: when he was on the stop Brexit and democracy bandwagon,

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Speaker 9: all while calling Donald Trump all the names under the sun.

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Speaker 9: You know, he is no Democrat. So the idea that

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Speaker 9: actually Donald Trump is some kind of fascist, which is

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Speaker 9: what some members of his cabinet have alleged, is absolutely absurd.

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Speaker 9: He actually said, no way would I want Trump over

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Speaker 9: for dinner. Well, I don't know about you, but after

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Speaker 9: looking at that clip, I'm pretty sure that Trump would

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Speaker 9: probably rather listen to Kamala Harris's hyhena like cackle on

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Speaker 9: Loop over twelve hours than spend even one minute over

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Speaker 9: a dinner table with that boring bank clerk of charisma.

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Speaker 9: You know, it's just it's absolutely absurd. He is nothing

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Speaker 9: more than a lawyer, a bureaucrat, a technocrat trying to

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Speaker 9: take on a fake personality without even bothering to do

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Speaker 9: any of the actual real governance work. Every day. It's

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Speaker 9: a new data virtue signal with this clown. And the

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Speaker 9: sooner that we're done with him, the better. I tell

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Speaker 9: you what, Donald J. Trump, if he makes his life

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Speaker 9: And I love it. I love all of it. What's

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Speaker 9: the deep? Karnoffert London knife crime spiking like you wouldn't believe,

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Speaker 9: This guy had an obsession with violence and extremism. Right,

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Speaker 9: It's that same old, tired story of political correctness over

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Speaker 9: I see it, I'll be canceled for this, but some

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Speaker 3: We know that he's got this legal battle as well

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Speaker 9: For Oh as long as he possibly can. He's the

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 9: The guy is one endless, self serving tantrum dragon his

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Speaker 9: You know, I would argue that actually he's basically treating

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Speaker 9: They don't go on for the rest of their lives

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Speaker 9: He would miss the cameras. You've got him delaying this trial,

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Speaker 9: And if it wasn't already obvious, the man who claims

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Speaker 3: Oh I definitely died. I'm quite frankly sick of that man.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you this, Darren Grimes, he's just yeah,

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Speaker 9: An absolute delight. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Much still to come, Lefties losing it, plus Lefti's claim

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Speaker 3: and now it's time for lefties losing it, starting with

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Speaker 3: the bewildering bishop who turned Donald Trump's church service into

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Speaker 4: At the same time, there are gay, lesbian, and transgender

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Speaker 3: Yes, and seeing that is where her crazed rant should

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Speaker 11: I asked you to have messumister President, on those in

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Speaker 3: The left never learn, do they? And look, I've got

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Speaker 4: There are gay, lesbian and transgender children in Democratic, Republican

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Speaker 3: Oh, it says it all. It says it all. God

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Speaker 3: love JD. Evans. Isn't he the best? And thanks to you,

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Speaker 12: It is a message of a call for justice, for

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Speaker 12: need to replace President Trump.

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Speaker 3: How this deranged woman was ever allowed that the president's

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Speaker 3: church service needs urgent investigation. Now to Democrat nitwit activist

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Speaker 13: He ranted up there about being politically persecuted when in

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Speaker 4: Ah.

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Speaker 3: They're so tiresome, tysoon, aren't they? It is over, It

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Speaker 9: Do you think there should be more than two genders

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I don't know what that executive order means. I don't

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Speaker 4: You just agree with that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: How many genders are Again, these.

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Speaker 3: Guys don't know what they're talking about, so they won't

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Speaker 3: be How many genders? How many genders are there? Genders

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Speaker 3: are there? What's the least I'm I'm gonna use Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden's answers. At least two, at least two.

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Speaker 14: That's satisfiemale, that's a TikTok.

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Speaker 3: Here, there's there's at least too. There's at least too females.

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Speaker 9: Like human brain Trump says is male and female. How

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Speaker 9: many more are there after male and female?

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Speaker 3: Harry, there's at least to at least two. Poor Harry

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Speaker 3: still hasn't grown up and learned about anatomy. Now to

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Speaker 3: the non binary nafties who are in meltdown mode because

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Speaker 3: of Donald Trump's glorious declaration that there are only two genders.

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Speaker 2: He has now gleamed there will only be the male

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Speaker 2: and female gender that will be recognized in America. This

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Speaker 2: sets back everything that the trans community has been working for,

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Speaker 2: and we've already not been recognized in this country for centuries.

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Speaker 3: It's actually really simple. If there are two genders, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't need to be that hard nor that tragic. Now

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Speaker 3: over to MSNBC, I mean, surely they're crashing ratings. Must

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Speaker 3: be enough to give them some in incentive, to give

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Speaker 3: Trump some credit and say it the lot. No. The

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Speaker 3: second inaugural address did.

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Speaker 15: In my take on it was that it had more

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Speaker 15: of a vibe of a State of the Union address

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Speaker 15: than an inaugural address, I think in part because it

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Speaker 15: was indoors, and that made it sort of feel like

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Speaker 15: he was addressing a joint session of Congress, even though

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Speaker 15: he wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Even though this was an inaugural address.

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Speaker 15: President Trump spoke in his sort of trademark low monotone,

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Speaker 15: gave his list of grievances.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so nothing from Rachel Meadow has anybody checked in

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Speaker 3: on Joy rate.

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Speaker 7: The promises on the table are two hundred some odd

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Speaker 7: executive actions. An attempt to get rid of birthright citizenship,

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Speaker 7: an attempt to do mass deportation, which we thought was

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Speaker 7: being threatened on the state of Illinois, the city of

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Speaker 7: Chicago apparently, which said, yet, you can't come here and

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Speaker 7: do that, and maybe they backed down. We're talking about

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Speaker 7: an attempt to portray this piece full transition of power

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Speaker 7: with people who were convicted in the insurrection attempt.

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Speaker 3: Noah Kjoy retains her title as the chief loan anybody

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Speaker 3: else at MSNBC with some sanity. No, no, of course not,

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Speaker 3: because here is Matthew Dowd comparing poor Americans who voted

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Speaker 3: for Trump to Paul whites who defended slave owners during

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Speaker 3: the Civil War.

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Speaker 15: The powerful people are trying to segment off the white

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Speaker 15: working class who are getting no benefit from this and

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Speaker 15: will suffer in the Trump premiacy in the Trump presidency.

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Speaker 14: But the same thing is repeating itself in our country again.

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Speaker 3: Now to the lefty hysteria over Elon Musk's gesture at

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Speaker 3: the inauguration, which the deprave obsessed with calling a Nazi salute,

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Speaker 3: And I just want to say thank you for making

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Speaker 3: it happen.

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Speaker 13: Thank you.

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Speaker 9: My heart goes out to you.

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Speaker 3: Well who here is where it gets. It's a tad awkward.

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Speaker 3: Has anyone heard from Alexandria o Kazio Cortez on her

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Speaker 3: apparent Nazi salutes or any of these dems cared to

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Speaker 3: explain they're violent Nazi symbolic gestures and ge shame on

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Speaker 3: the village people, not one, but two Nazi salutes at

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Speaker 3: the same time. Joining me now is Newsweek Opinion editor

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Speaker 3: Barti Altunger Sagan Bartier. Nice to speak to you again.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining me. I want to start with

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Speaker 3: Elon Musk's one armed gesture that he gave during President

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Speaker 3: Trump's inauguration, which the tiresome left are now claiming was

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Speaker 3: a Nazi salute, when in reality, he was literally saying

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Speaker 3: during the speech in that moment, my heart goes out

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Speaker 3: to you. But I've got to play you this clip

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Speaker 3: of CNN. Have a look at what they said about it.

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Speaker 7: That salute was a vocative of things that we have

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Speaker 7: seen through history.

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Speaker 1: It was quick.

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Speaker 2: I think our viewers are smart and they can take

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Speaker 2: a look at that, but it certainly was.

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Speaker 14: It's not something that you typically see in American political rallies.

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Speaker 3: Ugh bat Yeah, why other liberal media still so desperate

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Speaker 3: to create false narratives that just sam desperate for drama

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Speaker 3: and controversy that simply doesn't exist.

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Speaker 14: Talk about lefties losing it.

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Speaker 16: What I love about that, cliff is that it's clear

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Speaker 16: that it is sunk into the minds of those CNN

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Speaker 16: anchors that they, along with a few other outlets, have

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Speaker 16: just been sued for defamation.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 16: They know that, and so they can't quite bring themselves

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Speaker 16: to say what they're trying to imply, which is that

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Speaker 16: it was a Nazi salute. So they call it a

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Speaker 16: gesture that we recognize from history or some such nonsense.

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Speaker 16: It's so absolutely hilarious, and you are, of course on

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Speaker 16: the money. They absolutely need to cast their political opponents

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Speaker 16: as Nazis because they have nothing else. Donald Trump just

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Speaker 16: won with a massive mandate to rule from the vast

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Speaker 16: majority of people living in American swing states, the vast

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Speaker 16: majority of the working class. He turned out to be

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Speaker 16: a great uniter of people, regardless of race or region,

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Speaker 16: or where they worked or what they worked in.

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Speaker 14: After being cast as.

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Speaker 16: This deplorable, hitler like divisive character for ten years by

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Speaker 16: these exact same liberal media pundits and democratic elites across

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Speaker 16: the board.

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Speaker 14: So really we're.

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Speaker 16: Seeing them trying once again to do what they did

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Speaker 16: much more successfully in twenty sixteen. Fortunately, the American people

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Speaker 16: just aren't buying it anymore.

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Speaker 3: No, they're certainly not, but CNN, gosh, they're just brainwashed. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: Alexandria Ocasio Cortez has accused the Anti Defamation League of

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Speaker 3: defending a Hail Hitler salute and claiming that the anti

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Speaker 3: Semitism watchdog group works for President Trump and his allies.

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Speaker 3: Now this comes after that group defended elon asks jest

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Speaker 3: gesture prompting this post from Ioca. She said, people can

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Speaker 3: officially stop listening to you as any sort of reputable

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Speaker 3: source of information. Now you work for them. Oh look,

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Speaker 3: Bartiya ioc is desperately grappling at stralls once again.

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Speaker 16: I'm still laughing about this. Like when she said you

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Speaker 16: work for them, it was sort of unclear. Did she

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Speaker 16: mean like that the ADL works for trumpor did she

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Speaker 16: mean ADEO works for like the Nazis. It was so hilarious,

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Speaker 16: especially because the ADL is unbelievably woke and spent the

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Speaker 16: last twenty years catering desperately to the woke left, only

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Speaker 16: to have it thrown in their face from AOC. You know,

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Speaker 16: a lot of people are very angry about this. I

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Speaker 16: honestly have not stopped chuckling about it. It is so

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Speaker 16: ridiculous and over the top. This used to be very

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Speaker 16: threatening because they had this monopoly on information through the

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Speaker 16: liberal media about ninety six percent of American journalists liberals

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Speaker 16: or progressives, and so you had this thing happen where

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Speaker 16: their view that Donald Trump, or the MAGA movement or

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Speaker 16: anybody who likes him or votes for him is literally hitler.

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Speaker 16: You know, this is something that people used to buy.

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Speaker 16: But it's so clear now when the majority of Hispanic

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Speaker 16: men twenty five percent of black men, forty six percent

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Speaker 16: of Hispanics overall, you know, millions and millions of Americans

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Speaker 16: who are not white, who are people of color, so

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Speaker 16: many Jews. I mean, these are people who found a

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Speaker 16: home in the Maga movement because the left just has

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Speaker 16: simply abandoned them to cater to these ridiculous far left,

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Speaker 16: extreme radical views of the left. And so now they're

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Speaker 16: in this camp and they're just not going to believe

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Speaker 16: that a man like Donald Trump, whose heart obviously beats

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Speaker 16: for the American working class, whose singular promise is to

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Speaker 16: put Americans first, They're not going to believe anymore that

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Speaker 16: he surrounded himself with Nazis. And I'll just say one

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Speaker 16: more word about Elon Musk. This is a person who

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Speaker 16: went to Israel after October seventh. This is a person

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Speaker 16: who went on a tour of Auschwitz. This is a

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Speaker 16: person who met with the families of the hostages taken

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Speaker 16: by Hamas. This is a person who has been a

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Speaker 16: friend to the Jews for a very long time. And

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Speaker 16: I say that as perhaps one of his most vocal

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Speaker 16: critics in America. I think he's very close with the

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Speaker 16: Chinese Communist Party. I think he's really wrong on immigration.

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Speaker 16: I'm out there criticizing him every day. The idea that

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Speaker 16: this person harbor's secret Nazi views is simply ridiculous, and honestly,

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Speaker 16: I don't even think the people saying it believe it.

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Speaker 3: No, it's the left absolutely grappling at straws because the

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Speaker 3: world has changed, America has changed, and they are still

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Speaker 3: stuck in the past. I think now, let's talk about

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump's press conference in his first full day as president.

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Speaker 3: This is what he said about the January sixth pardons.

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Speaker 13: These people have already served years in prison, and they've

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Speaker 13: served him viciously. It's a disgusting prison. It's been horrible.

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Speaker 13: It's in you, me, and it's been a terrible, terrible thing.

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Speaker 13: So these people have already served a long period of time,

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Speaker 13: and I made a decision to give a pardon.

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Speaker 3: BASSI, Yeah, he's there, you know, explaining his decision. But

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Speaker 3: in the end, he's standing firm on that he was

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Speaker 3: always going.

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Speaker 1: To do this, you know.

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Speaker 16: I think from their point of view, there was a

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Speaker 16: small attempt made to distinguish between people who had been

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Speaker 16: convicted of violent crimes and the vast majority of people

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Speaker 16: were convicted of things like trespassing and other nonviolent crimes.

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Speaker 16: About sixteen of them had their sentences.

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Speaker 14: Commuted, not pardoned. I think this was a big mistake.

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Speaker 14: I think this was an obvious easy thing to do.

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Speaker 16: You hit a police officer, you touch a cop, you

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Speaker 16: don't get any kind of clemency. And I think the

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Speaker 16: reason that they changed tack on this because it did

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Speaker 16: seem like they were going to do what I would

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Speaker 16: think would have been the right thing. To do, which

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Speaker 16: is only to pardon the ones who had nonviolent offenses.

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Speaker 14: That's what JD. Vance said that they were planning to

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Speaker 14: do about a week ago.

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Speaker 16: I think what happened was, you know, when they saw

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Speaker 16: buy In with his blanket pardons for his family, with

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Speaker 16: his preemptive pardons for Fauci and the January sixth committee,

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Speaker 16: which came out literally the morning of the inauguration, I

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Speaker 16: think what happened was that Trump camp felt like this

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Speaker 16: was such a blow to the rule of law that

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Speaker 16: they had to meet that with something for their side,

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Speaker 16: to show what Biden, the kind of president Biden had started.

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Speaker 16: Now again, I don't think this was great. I think

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Speaker 16: that they really should have stood fast on this. You

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Speaker 16: touch a cop, no mercy. But Trump was trying to

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Speaker 16: say in that press conference was look, before I arrived

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Speaker 16: back here on the scene, the Justice Department has been weaponized,

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Speaker 16: and so we can't take anything that came out of

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Speaker 16: that Justice Department seriously.

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Speaker 14: And so that's the decision that they ultimately made.

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Speaker 3: No that makes sense. I did to take your point

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Speaker 3: on that, And I want to bring up the war

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Speaker 3: in you crying because Donald Trump rise that in this

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Speaker 3: press conference have a look.

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Speaker 13: We're talking to Zelenski, We're going to be talking with

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Speaker 13: President Putin very soon, and we'll see what it all

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Speaker 13: happens now Batia.

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Speaker 3: He has previously vowed to bring peace to that conflict.

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Speaker 3: How do you think Donald Trump will handle this now

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Speaker 3: moving forward and trying to negotiate with both those leaders.

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Speaker 16: It's very interesting because leading up to the inauguration, I

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Speaker 16: was sure that it would be much easier to get

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Speaker 16: Putin and Zelenski to the table than it would Hamas

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Speaker 16: and Israel. And amazingly, he managed to get Hamas and

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Speaker 16: Israel to the table and has not yet succeeded with

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Speaker 16: Zelenski and Putin.

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Speaker 14: He did say in this press conference that he would.

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Speaker 16: Be willing to impose sanctions on Russia if Putin doesn't

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Speaker 16: come to the table soon, which to me suggested that

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Speaker 16: the hold up is on the Russian end rather than

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Speaker 16: the Ukrainian end. But I guess we'll see. This is

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Speaker 16: something he wants very much. He could not have put

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Speaker 16: a better person in charge of the Department of State

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Speaker 16: than Mark Rubio. This is a person who one hundred

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Speaker 16: percent understands where Trump is coming from.

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Speaker 14: He said that every single.

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Speaker 16: Decision made by his Department of State would be made

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Speaker 16: based on answering three questions. Does it make America stronger,

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Speaker 16: does it make America safer? And does it make America

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Speaker 16: more prosperous. That is going to be the guiding light

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Speaker 16: of Donald Trump's foreign policy through Marco Rubio.

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Speaker 14: And I think this is just a real it's a.

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Speaker 16: Shot across the bow to post war world order in

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Speaker 16: which America and Americans were put last. This is what

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Speaker 16: America first looks like. It's not isolationist by any means,

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Speaker 16: but it does ask what our our interests here?

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Speaker 14: And I think that's great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a completely new era, that's for sure. And

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Speaker 3: just one more point. On that press conference, Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: also said he will issue an executive order to increase

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Speaker 3: the availability of water in California. Of course, following those

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Speaker 3: disastrous wildfires. Have a listen to these.

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Speaker 13: Los Angeles has massive amounts of water available to it.

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Speaker 13: All they have to do is turn the valve. And

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Speaker 13: that's the valve coming back from and down from the

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Speaker 13: Pacific Northwest, where millions of gallons of water a week

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Speaker 13: and a day even in many cases, pours into California.

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Speaker 13: So we're demanding that they turned the valve back toward

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Speaker 13: Los Angeles right now.

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Speaker 3: But here I thought this was quite important because we

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Speaker 3: know that there were a series of failures by local authorities,

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Speaker 3: by government department decisions which led to those fires. But

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Speaker 3: how contentious is water policy in California.

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Speaker 14: It is very contentious.

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Speaker 16: And I will tell you there are a lot of

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Speaker 16: very wealthy people who used to have a lot of

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Speaker 16: influence in the Democratic Party, whose homes just burned down,

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Speaker 16: and who are going to be looking for a new

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Speaker 16: political party. And honestly, if Donald Trump is going to

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Speaker 16: welcome them with open arms, you could see a mass

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Speaker 16: exodus of these sort of wealthy Californians, former Democrats.

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Speaker 14: Into the arms of the GOP.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree with you. Now, look, New York

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Speaker 3: is one of the first sanctuary cities that the FEDS

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Speaker 3: will target in Donald Trump's long promised crackdown on illegal migrants.

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Speaker 3: Here is how Trump's borders our. Tom Homan, Well, he

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Speaker 3: confessed that those deportations have begun. Have a listen to this.

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Speaker 3: We were expecting, based on your initial schedule, that today

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Speaker 3: roundups of criminal illegal aliens in the process of deporting

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Speaker 3: them would begin.

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Speaker 13: It seems to have been put on hold for a

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Speaker 13: little while.

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Speaker 3: When can we expect that to happen?

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Speaker 11: Where will it begin?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: I started, as I started, These teams are there as

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Speaker 3: of today, now, Bartia. This was of course a key

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Speaker 3: election promise. This is a mandate that Donald Trump was

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Speaker 3: elected on. How critical is it now for the Trump

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Speaker 3: administration to deliver on this?

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Speaker 16: It's absolutely critical. This was the immigration election. Immigration in

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Speaker 16: the United States, as I'm sure in other countries as well,

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Speaker 16: is an economic issue when it comes to working class people.

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Speaker 16: It divides the elites who consume the labor of immigrants

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Speaker 16: from the working class, with whom, especially illegal immigrants, compete

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Speaker 16: for jobs. And so one of the major ways in

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Speaker 16: which Donald Trump unified the working class and won the

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Speaker 16: election by peeling away millions of Americans who were very

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Speaker 16: recently Democrats, was by taking up this restrictionist policy on immigration,

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Speaker 16: which by the way, was the Democrats' position as recently

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Speaker 16: as the nineteen nineties. Because whatever side is catering to

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Speaker 16: the working class is going to be the side advocating

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Speaker 16: for much less immigration and controlling the border is the

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Speaker 16: number one thing you do in order to do that,

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Speaker 16: to limit that supply of low wage labor, which immediately

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Speaker 16: raises the wages of working class Americans. And he could

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Speaker 16: not have picked a better person than Tom Holman for

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Speaker 16: that job. You just look at that guy's face when

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Speaker 16: he's talking about it. He cannot wait to get started

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Speaker 16: on this. He is a person who all he wants

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Speaker 16: to do is service the American people. And I think

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Speaker 16: you see that in a lot of these picks Donald

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Speaker 16: Trump has for his cabinet. These are service oriented public servants,

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Speaker 16: which is something we haven't seen for a long time.

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Speaker 3: That is a man who means business. You can tell

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Speaker 3: he is. He is right on it, right on the ball,

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Speaker 3: and he's going to get it done. I completely agree

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Speaker 3: about the borders are Now this was quite interesting. Mayor

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Speaker 3: Eric Adams has said that the Democratic Party has abandoned

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Speaker 3: him and Everyday New York's claiming that the Biden administration

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Speaker 3: actually punished him for being vocal about the migrant crisis

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Speaker 3: in the Big Apple. He's spoken to Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 5: We'll often say, well, you know, you don't sound like

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Speaker 5: a Democrat, and you know you seem to have left

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Speaker 5: the party.

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Speaker 3: No, the party left me, and he left broken class

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Speaker 3: people again.

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Speaker 11: Venezuelan Gang leaders that were coming to the city creating crimes.

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Speaker 3: And so you tell the President and his aids.

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Speaker 9: This and what are they saying, Big good Democrat Eric.

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Speaker 3: It's quite a turnaround because this is what he had

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Speaker 3: to say about Donald Trump in the past.

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Speaker 16: Trump Republicans created this mess and we need to fix

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Speaker 16: this mess with real immigration.

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Speaker 3: Before Bartiya, I thought that this was quite a frank

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Speaker 3: admission that he made to Tucker Carlson. In your view,

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Speaker 3: what does it say really about how the Biden administration

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Speaker 3: traded people who stood up against their lack of action

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Speaker 3: on what are very serious, key issues like this one.

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Speaker 16: You know, it is both the case that they got

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Speaker 16: very angry at Eric Adams and sidelined one of President

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Speaker 16: Biden's top surrogates because he complained about immigration.

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Speaker 14: And you know, I think what he's doing here is

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Speaker 14: very clever.

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Speaker 16: He's trying to take the issue that he was penalized

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Speaker 16: by the Democrats over and use that to curry favor

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Speaker 16: with Donald Trump. Very smart thing to do. If he's

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Speaker 16: going to help Donald Trump with these deportations, that will

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Speaker 16: be also a very smart thing for him to do.

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Speaker 16: But you know, there were also some allegations against them

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Speaker 16: that I think probably have a lot of merit. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 16: so I don't see him quite clawing his way completely

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Speaker 16: out of the whole.

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Speaker 14: But this is a very smart thing for him to

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Speaker 14: be doing right now.

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Speaker 3: That is a very very fair point. Now we mentioned

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Speaker 3: earlier the war inine, but in terms of the Middle Ages,

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Speaker 3: to Donald Trump has said that he's not confident that

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Speaker 3: Israel sees fire deal with her Musk will hold through

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Speaker 3: in those three phases, saying it's not our war, it

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Speaker 3: is their war. I am not confident, but I think

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Speaker 3: they're very weakened on the other side, Bart Yea. As

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Speaker 3: you alluded to earlier, Donald Trump's influence undoubtedly had an

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Speaker 3: impact in this deal going ahead. But is he right

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Speaker 3: in what he says there, because I guess in the end,

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Speaker 3: Israel has been forced to do a deal with the devil,

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Speaker 3: so who knows what.

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Speaker 16: May happen, you know, I think at this point, as

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Speaker 16: ironic as this is to say, Hamas wants this deal

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Speaker 16: more than Israel does. Israel wants it's hostages back, but

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Speaker 16: it also desperately wants to go in and finish the

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Speaker 16: job that it started. Whereas Hamas I think realizes that

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Speaker 16: they're sort of on their deathbed. I mean, there's no

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Speaker 16: way they can think that they are going to keep

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Speaker 16: ruling the guys a strip. So they want whatever leverage

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Speaker 16: they can get out of this moment right now, and they.

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Speaker 14: Still have those hostages.

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Speaker 16: Meanwhile, Donald Trump has promised Benjamin Ntanyahu that he can

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Speaker 16: go back in and finish the job. Unlike Biden, Trump

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Speaker 16: did not make it a condition of the ceasefire deal

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Speaker 16: that Israel promise not to re engage militarily. So it

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Speaker 16: really is Israel's decision right now. Do they want to

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Speaker 16: try to get every last hostage out or do they

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Speaker 16: want to finish the war, which of course has been

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Speaker 16: their sort of Sophie's choice since the beginning of this

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Speaker 16: since October seventh. Do they do everything they can to

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Speaker 16: rescue the hostages or do they prosecute the war and

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Speaker 16: try to defeat their enemy. And it's a horrific, horrific

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Speaker 16: decision because of course those are intention with each other.

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Speaker 16: And I really don't envy NITANIAO for having had to

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Speaker 16: make that decision every single day since October seventh. You know,

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Speaker 16: all I can say is, as Americans, we have Israel's

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Speaker 16: back again now in a way that we really didn't

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Speaker 16: under the Biden administration, and thank god for that.

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Speaker 3: You're absolutely spot on. Now we're almost out a time,

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Speaker 3: but before we let you go, I've got to talk

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Speaker 3: about a final humiliation for Kamala Harris, because official Kamala

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Speaker 3: Harris twenty twenty four merchandise has been spotted selling at

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Speaker 3: half price, including tote bags with a portrait of the

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Speaker 3: smiling former Vice president. Oh BARTI, yup, it's all over

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Speaker 3: and now she's half priced, she's on sale.

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Speaker 14: It's so depressing. And I will just say this.

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Speaker 16: You know, you have a lot of Democrats sort of

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Speaker 16: taking stock trying to figure out, Okay, where do we

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Speaker 16: go from here. Here's the thing that's been bothering me

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Speaker 16: so much about it. They don't actually have this sense of, well,

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Speaker 16: we want to win because we want to do this

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Speaker 16: for the American people. They're standing there asking themselves, well,

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Speaker 16: what can we offer the American people so that we

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Speaker 16: can win. It's sort of not just the death of

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Speaker 16: you know, the party as it was, but you know

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Speaker 16: the death of the idea behind the party. I mean,

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Speaker 16: what do they actually stand for? And I think in

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Speaker 16: that sense, Kamala Harris was the perfect person to run

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Speaker 16: because she stands for absolutely nothing, just.

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Speaker 14: Like the party that she represented.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, she was always a Dei pick and look

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Speaker 3: how well that went. Bartia Unga Sagan, You're brilliant. Thank

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Speaker 3: you very much for joining me on the show this evening.

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Speaker 14: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 3: God bless Coming up, Will Australia follow Trump's lead and

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Speaker 3: recognize two genders only? Stephanie Bastian joins us next to discuss, well,

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump has shaken up the world and hopefully it

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Speaker 3: reverberates here in Australia because he's ordered an attack on

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Speaker 3: gender politics recognizing only two genders male and female. Joining

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Speaker 3: me now is Women Forum, Australia's head of advocacy, Stephanie Bastian. Stephanie,

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Speaker 3: thanks for joining me. This is about ending what has

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Speaker 3: become an ideological crusade across the world. But do you

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Speaker 3: think that Australia will follow suit and say that there

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Speaker 3: are two? Look?

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Speaker 17: I certainly hope. So this is a historic executive order

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Speaker 17: coming out of America. Not only does it tackle the

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Speaker 17: heart of the issue that is gender ideology, it deals

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Speaker 17: with the consequences women. Sex based rights will be restored,

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Speaker 17: their sports will be protected their access to sex only

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Speaker 17: spaces such as change rooms, bathrooms, prisons, and domestic violence shelters.

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Speaker 17: It tackles the issue of documentation, so sex self id.

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Speaker 17: It requires biological reality on things like passports and visas.

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Speaker 17: It also strips away funding from diversity and woke programs

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Speaker 17: and also the forced use of pronouns in the workplace.

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Speaker 17: Both of these things have been instrumental by activists to

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Speaker 17: normalize gender ideology in our society. So it's a fantastic bill.

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Speaker 17: I really hope that this inspires some leadership on.

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Speaker 3: The issue in Australia.

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Speaker 17: But it's a terrific win for Americans and perhaps more

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Speaker 17: importantly women and girls.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, finally somebody has said it. Good on Donald Trump. Now,

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Speaker 3: a prominent transactivist wants Canada to update its travel safety

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Speaker 3: guidelines for the US following that executive order. Stephanie, I

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Speaker 3: don't think that Trump would care. But what does this

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Speaker 3: say about the fear and hysteria being peddled by the

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Speaker 3: left when it comes to gender ideology. Look, I think

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Speaker 3: hysteria is the right word. But we've been lying.

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Speaker 17: The government has been lying, our institutions have been lying

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Speaker 17: to these people for so long. These are people who

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Speaker 17: are struggling with gender identity. They have an entitlement. So

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Speaker 17: I think following this order there will be some growing pains,

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Speaker 17: but we need this clarity and quite frankly, if foreigners

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Speaker 17: visiting America need to update their records to do so,

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Speaker 17: the US is doing the rest of the world a favor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really good point. Now, a tribunal has

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Speaker 3: ruled that a Victorian lesbian group cannot exclude transgender and

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Speaker 3: bisexual women from its public events. In twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 3: the Lesbian Action Group applied to the Australian Human Rights

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Speaker 3: Commission to allowed for what to exclude transgender and bisexual

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Speaker 3: women from public events, but the Commission has since ruled

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Speaker 3: against it. Stephanie, So Australian lesbians aren't allowed to exclude

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Speaker 3: men from public meetings. What does it say about the

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Speaker 3: gender identity movement?

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Speaker 17: Look, I think it says a lot more about the

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Speaker 17: Human Rights Commission. They're no longer fit for purpose. I mean,

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Speaker 17: this is the third case they've intervened where they've ruled

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Speaker 17: against women. There was a similar case in Tasmania to

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Speaker 17: the one in Victoria, and of course they were a

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Speaker 17: friend of the court on behalf of Roxanntickle in the

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Speaker 17: sal Grover to call verse giggle case. I think we

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Speaker 17: need to have a look at these institutions and defund them.

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Speaker 17: As I said before, they're no longer fit for purpose.

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Speaker 17: It's extremely disappointing men who identify as lesbians as transgender lesbians.

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Speaker 3: Are heterosexual men.

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Speaker 17: People have the right to meet, and they have the

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Speaker 17: right to discriminate in a lawful way, and this would

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Speaker 17: be a lawful way. And if we have a look

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Speaker 17: at some of the other decisions that have been made,

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Speaker 17: particularly in Victoria, there was a gay bar who was

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Speaker 17: allowed to discriminate against heterosexual couples. Transgender people are able

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Speaker 17: to hold trands only events. It just seems when it

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Speaker 17: comes to women's rights, they're being discarded once again, and

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Speaker 17: we really need better clarity on this. I just hope

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Speaker 17: that when the next election comes around, if there's a

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Speaker 17: change of government, Brad Batton takes this issue on and

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Speaker 17: starts to deal with it and to root.

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Speaker 3: Out some of these issues. Absolutely, but this is what

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Speaker 3: we need, Stephanie, is strong government and strong leadership on

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Speaker 3: this and follow the lead of Donald Trump. We can't

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Speaker 3: keep going on this Pathway, Stephanie Bastien, nice to chat

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Speaker 3: to you, Thanks very much for joining me on the show.

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Speaker 3: And that's it from me. Up next is Newsnight, good Night,