1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,801 Speaker 1: Approach production. 2 00:00:23,761 --> 00:00:25,961 Speaker 2: For the record. I'm done trying to make y'all comfortable 3 00:00:27,041 --> 00:00:28,961 Speaker 2: for the record. You ain't trying to grow downer stuff 4 00:00:29,001 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: for your for the record, laugh on me going all 5 00:00:32,241 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: the way way for the record. Ain't trying to link, 6 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: No trying to waste to stop for. 7 00:00:37,081 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 3: The record, for the record, for the for the record, 8 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:47,401 Speaker 3: for the right, for the ready, right. 9 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:50,681 Speaker 1: For the record. 10 00:00:50,721 --> 00:00:52,241 Speaker 2: I'm don't try and make y'all comfortable. 11 00:00:53,001 --> 00:00:58,801 Speaker 4: Right season seventeen of the Clink, it has been amazing 12 00:00:58,801 --> 00:01:01,161 Speaker 4: and I say it each week because every time and 13 00:01:01,321 --> 00:01:05,201 Speaker 4: you guess comes on we have another amazing episod. So 14 00:01:05,241 --> 00:01:07,761 Speaker 4: the feedback has been phenomenal. I just want to take 15 00:01:07,761 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 4: a moment and say a big shout out the Sideways 16 00:01:09,881 --> 00:01:13,041 Speaker 4: Surf podshape. Without you, guys, this doesn't happen. And to 17 00:01:13,121 --> 00:01:16,721 Speaker 4: every one of you listeners out there that continually download 18 00:01:17,121 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 4: the Clink each week for these amazing stories. And remember, guys, 19 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 4: for any Clink in compareble head over to the Sideways website. 20 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,321 Speaker 4: You can get it in storm anywhere in the East 21 00:01:27,321 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 4: Coast of Australia, or just hit that link on the 22 00:01:30,601 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 4: Instagram page on the Clink podcast without further ado I'm. 23 00:01:35,161 --> 00:01:37,961 Speaker 1: Going to be straight up. This man contacted. 24 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,481 Speaker 4: Me just out of the blue and basically reached out 25 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,121 Speaker 4: suggesting that he may have a story to bring value 26 00:01:44,321 --> 00:01:47,001 Speaker 4: to our listeners. And I've got to say that after 27 00:01:47,041 --> 00:01:49,681 Speaker 4: having a chat with him, I do feel that there 28 00:01:49,721 --> 00:01:54,001 Speaker 4: is a great story behind this wonderful man. He wife 29 00:01:54,201 --> 00:01:57,801 Speaker 4: the media does was portrayed as the coke King. 30 00:01:57,841 --> 00:01:58,761 Speaker 1: Now the coke King to. 31 00:01:58,721 --> 00:02:02,361 Speaker 4: Me, I doubt very much, because if you're the coke King, 32 00:02:02,401 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 4: then you're not sitting in Australia and you're not sitting 33 00:02:04,641 --> 00:02:08,401 Speaker 4: here are doing a podcast right now. But he was 34 00:02:08,441 --> 00:02:14,001 Speaker 4: definitely charged with supplying cocaine. Today he supplies so much 35 00:02:14,041 --> 00:02:18,081 Speaker 4: health knowledge and wellness through his actions and I feel 36 00:02:18,081 --> 00:02:20,201 Speaker 4: that it is a very worthy chat and something that 37 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,721 Speaker 4: we will be able to give you the tools to 38 00:02:22,721 --> 00:02:25,481 Speaker 4: be able to better your own life through Ivy SARTI. 39 00:02:25,721 --> 00:02:28,201 Speaker 1: Welcome to the clink, Hey, bro, thanks for having me. 40 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,921 Speaker 5: I really appreciate it and thanks for the little intro there, 41 00:02:30,921 --> 00:02:32,121 Speaker 5: Bro well fanned. 42 00:02:32,481 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, mate, it's look. 43 00:02:34,001 --> 00:02:36,561 Speaker 4: I can't help but sit here as somebody who did 44 00:02:37,001 --> 00:02:40,201 Speaker 4: six years for commercial importation, you know, and the titles 45 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,681 Speaker 4: that you can get given by the media, you know 46 00:02:42,921 --> 00:02:46,881 Speaker 4: the king cocaine supplier, I must admit, And that's not 47 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 4: disrespecting you for any means that just right, how many 48 00:02:50,601 --> 00:02:53,361 Speaker 4: tons were you're selling? Were your Pablo Escobar's fucking right 49 00:02:53,361 --> 00:02:54,921 Speaker 4: air man or something, Because at the end of the. 50 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,721 Speaker 1: Day, mate, if you're you're the king of fucking. 51 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,241 Speaker 4: The Western Suburbs, I'd hate to think about all the 52 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 4: boys out there that are the king that are fucking 53 00:03:02,161 --> 00:03:05,601 Speaker 4: doing twenty and thirty years mate, that yeah, they're. 54 00:03:05,401 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 5: Thinking, yeah, you know, you've been through it yourself. The name, 55 00:03:09,361 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 5: the articles, it's all just for their business and grab 56 00:03:14,001 --> 00:03:17,961 Speaker 5: attention and just grab something and put it out in 57 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,681 Speaker 5: the media, put it out in the area that you're from, 58 00:03:20,921 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 5: just to you know, run you down and you've been 59 00:03:24,001 --> 00:03:24,681 Speaker 5: through it before. 60 00:03:25,561 --> 00:03:27,361 Speaker 1: They definitely do try to do that. 61 00:03:27,441 --> 00:03:29,681 Speaker 4: And I know that you've been through it yourself, and 62 00:03:29,761 --> 00:03:32,841 Speaker 4: it's a long walk. It's a tough walk, especially when 63 00:03:32,841 --> 00:03:36,041 Speaker 4: you're going through all the court processes. Look, let's take 64 00:03:36,081 --> 00:03:38,081 Speaker 4: our listeners back, like we do with each of our 65 00:03:38,121 --> 00:03:40,481 Speaker 4: guests today, give them a bit of a background into 66 00:03:40,561 --> 00:03:44,121 Speaker 4: your story and why it's so important today what you 67 00:03:44,201 --> 00:03:46,721 Speaker 4: do and how you help so many people out there 68 00:03:46,761 --> 00:03:49,201 Speaker 4: and how you can offer some great tools to assist 69 00:03:49,241 --> 00:03:51,201 Speaker 4: others to chase their dreams and be the best they 70 00:03:51,201 --> 00:03:56,401 Speaker 4: can be. You definitely weren't living this clean, healthy life 71 00:03:56,761 --> 00:04:00,001 Speaker 4: some years ago and made some choices. But as we 72 00:04:00,041 --> 00:04:02,121 Speaker 4: say here, you know, like there's no regrets because we 73 00:04:02,161 --> 00:04:05,321 Speaker 4: wouldn't be sitting here today having this conversation. And if 74 00:04:05,361 --> 00:04:08,441 Speaker 4: we sat back and regretted everything that we did. For 75 00:04:08,521 --> 00:04:10,201 Speaker 4: the listeners, let's fill them in and give them a 76 00:04:10,201 --> 00:04:12,961 Speaker 4: background of who you are and yeah, how it ended 77 00:04:13,041 --> 00:04:13,801 Speaker 4: up where it was. 78 00:04:14,481 --> 00:04:17,041 Speaker 5: Just basically you know, I'm born and bred in Penrith, 79 00:04:17,481 --> 00:04:21,321 Speaker 5: Peneuth boy, and just as a teenager, I was just lost, 80 00:04:21,401 --> 00:04:22,561 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like, you know, you don't 81 00:04:22,601 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 5: have purpose. You know, you've got no goals, ambitions, you 82 00:04:26,001 --> 00:04:29,201 Speaker 5: don't have a career, wasn't good at school. Just those 83 00:04:29,241 --> 00:04:33,801 Speaker 5: sort of things in combination can sort of drift kids 84 00:04:33,801 --> 00:04:37,721 Speaker 5: away from you know, not so much they don't have 85 00:04:37,761 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 5: the potential in them, but they just don't know where 86 00:04:40,601 --> 00:04:40,961 Speaker 5: to go. 87 00:04:41,121 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: They don't know what to do. I don't know where 88 00:04:43,121 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: to put it into. 89 00:04:44,961 --> 00:04:48,681 Speaker 5: And when that happens, you know, I was lost, and 90 00:04:48,721 --> 00:04:52,641 Speaker 5: then you know, started social drinking and getting into the drugs, 91 00:04:52,721 --> 00:04:56,041 Speaker 5: and of course you're lost, you get stuck in those places, 92 00:04:56,041 --> 00:04:58,121 Speaker 5: but then that makes you feel like you're at home, 93 00:04:58,241 --> 00:05:03,641 Speaker 5: you're comfortable, and then that becomes you know, you're I'm 94 00:05:03,681 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 5: not going to say ambition is the word, but that 95 00:05:05,921 --> 00:05:09,361 Speaker 5: just becomes part of your life. That's all you know 96 00:05:09,721 --> 00:05:12,281 Speaker 5: what to do, whether it's be on the street, get 97 00:05:12,281 --> 00:05:17,321 Speaker 5: in the hustle, you know, drink, take drugs. And that's 98 00:05:17,481 --> 00:05:21,041 Speaker 5: what I latched onto because when I was in that space, 99 00:05:21,641 --> 00:05:24,601 Speaker 5: I felt safe, I was okay. 100 00:05:25,001 --> 00:05:27,841 Speaker 1: It becomes the normal, doesn't it. It's just it becomes 101 00:05:28,361 --> 00:05:32,161 Speaker 1: and then it becomes you don't look at it any different. Yeah, 102 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,801 Speaker 1: getting up and having a shower, it's just like it's 103 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: so normal. 104 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:41,561 Speaker 5: It's so so normal, you actually forget that it's not normal. 105 00:05:42,001 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 5: You actually forget what you're doing is the wrong thing. 106 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,401 Speaker 5: You forget that it is illegal. Just you're so used 107 00:05:48,401 --> 00:05:51,921 Speaker 5: to it and accustomed to it. When you know someone 108 00:05:51,961 --> 00:05:55,241 Speaker 5: that is sober and clean come sees you and goes, fuck, 109 00:05:55,281 --> 00:05:55,721 Speaker 5: what are you doing? 110 00:05:55,841 --> 00:05:59,801 Speaker 1: You're just like, what, like, this is so normal for me? 111 00:06:00,001 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: What do you mean? 112 00:06:01,201 --> 00:06:03,641 Speaker 4: I used I used to laugh, And when I say laugh, 113 00:06:03,681 --> 00:06:06,001 Speaker 4: I say it, you know, not so which is funny, funny, 114 00:06:06,001 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 4: ha haaf. And years ago you'd pull up at a 115 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,041 Speaker 4: mate's house and you know, we go now and we 116 00:06:10,161 --> 00:06:12,481 Speaker 4: catch up for a coffee or whatever, and that's all 117 00:06:12,521 --> 00:06:13,041 Speaker 4: good and well. 118 00:06:13,081 --> 00:06:15,161 Speaker 1: But years ago I used to call it the ding party. 119 00:06:15,561 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: You pull up at a mate's place any hour the 120 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 4: fucking day and basically throw a plate in the microwave. 121 00:06:20,001 --> 00:06:21,401 Speaker 1: The next minute, ding you chop it up. 122 00:06:21,841 --> 00:06:26,241 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was just a normal you know, And I guess, 123 00:06:26,281 --> 00:06:28,801 Speaker 5: you know, some people just don't. There's people that have 124 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,601 Speaker 5: thought are on that fence where they just do like 125 00:06:30,681 --> 00:06:33,041 Speaker 5: the social bending and things like that. But then there's 126 00:06:33,081 --> 00:06:36,921 Speaker 5: people that are like, that is your breakfast, your lunch, 127 00:06:36,961 --> 00:06:41,561 Speaker 5: your dinner. That is literally just like instilled into your 128 00:06:41,641 --> 00:06:44,681 Speaker 5: daily routine, doing those microwave things all the time. 129 00:06:44,761 --> 00:06:50,761 Speaker 1: And that was mine, Like it was so fuck bro. 130 00:06:50,921 --> 00:06:53,721 Speaker 5: I look back at it, and honestly, sometimes I'm just going, 131 00:06:54,001 --> 00:06:55,961 Speaker 5: fucking mate, hell you alive? 132 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like the amount of shit 133 00:06:59,081 --> 00:07:00,281 Speaker 1: you fucking consumed. 134 00:07:00,761 --> 00:07:02,681 Speaker 5: You know, I had people coming up to me that 135 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 5: we're doing this for years for social events, okay, And 136 00:07:06,481 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 5: they come up to me and go, mate, you only 137 00:07:08,641 --> 00:07:12,121 Speaker 5: just started. How the fuck are you doing this like 138 00:07:12,521 --> 00:07:15,401 Speaker 5: this is not normal for someone who's been doing it socially. 139 00:07:15,841 --> 00:07:19,681 Speaker 5: Yet you just got introduced to it. I got hooked 140 00:07:19,681 --> 00:07:22,281 Speaker 5: on it. So the first time I touched drugs was MDMA. 141 00:07:23,041 --> 00:07:25,601 Speaker 5: I touched it and I did not stop. I touched 142 00:07:25,721 --> 00:07:28,081 Speaker 5: MDMA and I had it every single day since I 143 00:07:28,161 --> 00:07:31,321 Speaker 5: touched it. Wow, there was no off, there was no 144 00:07:31,481 --> 00:07:33,961 Speaker 5: just a bender it was. I tried it when I 145 00:07:34,001 --> 00:07:37,321 Speaker 5: was like twenty four, and then the next day I 146 00:07:37,401 --> 00:07:39,961 Speaker 5: tried to get more by myself than the next day. 147 00:07:40,521 --> 00:07:42,041 Speaker 1: How old are you now? How old are you now? 148 00:07:42,081 --> 00:07:42,281 Speaker 1: Are you? 149 00:07:42,561 --> 00:07:46,081 Speaker 4: I'm thirty two, bro, So you're just on that cusp 150 00:07:46,121 --> 00:07:49,401 Speaker 4: of it all being really not really mdmay It all 151 00:07:49,441 --> 00:07:54,801 Speaker 4: started to shift over to this chemical fucking production shit 152 00:07:55,121 --> 00:07:58,961 Speaker 4: that yeah and dangerous and kill them, ye wasn't what 153 00:07:59,601 --> 00:08:00,841 Speaker 4: for example, like when we. 154 00:08:00,761 --> 00:08:03,881 Speaker 1: Had mdmy it was this this anisse fucking smell that 155 00:08:04,041 --> 00:08:09,441 Speaker 1: was crystal was yeah that's a long time yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 156 00:08:09,681 --> 00:08:12,401 Speaker 1: you know, it was what we believe was proper. I 157 00:08:12,441 --> 00:08:16,521 Speaker 1: think the way that they sort of manipulate the toxicity 158 00:08:16,561 --> 00:08:19,121 Speaker 1: of the drugs that the young people are taking today 159 00:08:19,161 --> 00:08:21,521 Speaker 1: are just so toxic to the body and. 160 00:08:21,521 --> 00:08:25,201 Speaker 5: Mind because I'll definitely go into what happened as well 161 00:08:25,241 --> 00:08:27,681 Speaker 5: down the truck with the health side of the body. 162 00:08:28,121 --> 00:08:31,841 Speaker 5: But like, yeah, so I was just that person that 163 00:08:32,641 --> 00:08:35,041 Speaker 5: had had it once and that was it. It was 164 00:08:35,121 --> 00:08:39,641 Speaker 5: game over that one time that I buckled to saying yes, 165 00:08:40,441 --> 00:08:42,201 Speaker 5: absolutely fucked me M. 166 00:08:42,841 --> 00:08:44,801 Speaker 1: I don't real And then I just continued on. 167 00:08:44,961 --> 00:08:47,521 Speaker 5: And then as you know what that life brings, it 168 00:08:47,601 --> 00:08:51,121 Speaker 5: makes you meet, you know, people that are in the game, 169 00:08:51,161 --> 00:08:53,521 Speaker 5: it makes you meet other people that you know are 170 00:08:53,521 --> 00:08:56,961 Speaker 5: not in good places. Everything else just starts to spoil 171 00:08:57,001 --> 00:08:59,641 Speaker 5: out of control. And that's literally what happened. And then 172 00:08:59,681 --> 00:09:01,761 Speaker 5: I got hooked on cocaine as well. So then I 173 00:09:01,801 --> 00:09:04,801 Speaker 5: started fucking mixing both of them, and I mean literally 174 00:09:05,321 --> 00:09:07,681 Speaker 5: both of them. Like I wasn't doing a line of 175 00:09:08,041 --> 00:09:10,041 Speaker 5: M and then a line of rack. I'd fucking mix 176 00:09:10,081 --> 00:09:12,961 Speaker 5: them together like a fucking cocktail and just line them up. 177 00:09:13,201 --> 00:09:14,961 Speaker 5: And I was doing that every day. That was just 178 00:09:15,041 --> 00:09:15,401 Speaker 5: my thing. 179 00:09:16,361 --> 00:09:16,681 Speaker 1: Wow. 180 00:09:17,161 --> 00:09:19,241 Speaker 5: I think we used to call that crank back in 181 00:09:19,281 --> 00:09:21,681 Speaker 5: the days. Yeah, they have a name for it. I 182 00:09:21,681 --> 00:09:23,961 Speaker 5: don't know what it was, but that was just my thing. 183 00:09:24,081 --> 00:09:29,561 Speaker 5: I'd just smashed that and then i'd have drinks and. 184 00:09:29,881 --> 00:09:32,321 Speaker 1: I think that's what it sort of does. Like I know, 185 00:09:32,881 --> 00:09:34,121 Speaker 1: speaking from experience. 186 00:09:34,201 --> 00:09:37,561 Speaker 4: For me, my thing was the Mdmay which I turned 187 00:09:37,601 --> 00:09:39,641 Speaker 4: into just a loose cannon and ran a muck like 188 00:09:39,681 --> 00:09:42,721 Speaker 4: a ten year old kid, running around like destroying things, 189 00:09:42,881 --> 00:09:46,281 Speaker 4: being funny, like I was just hype hyper. But living 190 00:09:46,321 --> 00:09:49,241 Speaker 4: with tytoo bi polar, I found that, you know, with 191 00:09:49,321 --> 00:09:52,121 Speaker 4: my use of cocaine for so many years back in 192 00:09:52,161 --> 00:09:54,441 Speaker 4: the days, I never got that high like everybody to 193 00:09:54,561 --> 00:09:56,321 Speaker 4: talk about the high, and it was always for me. 194 00:09:56,361 --> 00:09:59,201 Speaker 1: It just kept me, I guess, feeling normal. 195 00:09:59,241 --> 00:10:02,201 Speaker 4: That balanced me out, And I think that's what becomes 196 00:10:02,201 --> 00:10:05,761 Speaker 4: so normal in that sort of space. Say okay, why 197 00:10:05,801 --> 00:10:08,161 Speaker 4: are you taking this? Well, I can only say that 198 00:10:08,241 --> 00:10:10,041 Speaker 4: it keeps me normal, you know, like I was so 199 00:10:10,281 --> 00:10:14,281 Speaker 4: erratic with living with bipolar and not understanding the highs 200 00:10:14,281 --> 00:10:15,881 Speaker 4: and the lows of it. You know that if I 201 00:10:16,001 --> 00:10:20,441 Speaker 4: wasn't sort of having a line, I wasn't good. 202 00:10:20,881 --> 00:10:21,081 Speaker 1: Yeah. 203 00:10:21,721 --> 00:10:24,001 Speaker 4: If I was, I was sociable, I was able to function, 204 00:10:24,121 --> 00:10:26,041 Speaker 4: and you know, life went on. 205 00:10:26,601 --> 00:10:28,841 Speaker 1: So I'm sure there's a lot of people out there. 206 00:10:28,761 --> 00:10:32,361 Speaker 4: That can relate to what we're talking about here, but 207 00:10:32,681 --> 00:10:36,081 Speaker 4: it's definitely, like you said, it's a road of destruction 208 00:10:36,361 --> 00:10:39,361 Speaker 4: and where it leads to and what comes with it. 209 00:10:39,881 --> 00:10:42,761 Speaker 4: He's in no way, shape or form fun. 210 00:10:43,321 --> 00:10:45,321 Speaker 5: The funny thing when you say that is, you know 211 00:10:45,721 --> 00:10:49,041 Speaker 5: people see it as fun. Oh you know you live 212 00:10:49,081 --> 00:10:53,321 Speaker 5: a mad lifestyle or mad you having fun all the time. Yeah, okay, Wait, 213 00:10:53,361 --> 00:10:56,161 Speaker 5: wait a couple of years, Wait until something tragic happens, 214 00:10:56,201 --> 00:10:59,521 Speaker 5: Wait until you lose a mate, Waiting until your harm yourself, 215 00:10:59,721 --> 00:11:03,761 Speaker 5: waiting until you all those things really kicking, you know, 216 00:11:03,841 --> 00:11:06,841 Speaker 5: wait until you go to jail. None of that is fun, 217 00:11:07,521 --> 00:11:10,681 Speaker 5: none of it, not one second of it. And especially 218 00:11:10,761 --> 00:11:16,641 Speaker 5: when you're someone that gets caught in that for many years. Mate, 219 00:11:17,001 --> 00:11:20,801 Speaker 5: there's not one bit of that fucking fun app No, 220 00:11:20,881 --> 00:11:21,481 Speaker 5: there's nothing. 221 00:11:21,921 --> 00:11:25,521 Speaker 4: And you often sit back and obviously when you're doing 222 00:11:25,561 --> 00:11:29,801 Speaker 4: a sentence, and a decent sentence, you realize very quickly 223 00:11:29,841 --> 00:11:32,121 Speaker 4: that it all means fuck all. 224 00:11:32,721 --> 00:11:34,521 Speaker 1: Like all those good times you. 225 00:11:34,521 --> 00:11:36,841 Speaker 4: Would sit there and think, oh, you know, like, yeah, 226 00:11:37,121 --> 00:11:39,081 Speaker 4: got to miss this, got to miss that, And you think, well, 227 00:11:39,081 --> 00:11:41,161 Speaker 4: hang on, a see, this is what put me here, 228 00:11:41,921 --> 00:11:44,921 Speaker 4: you know, having that mindset and the way that I 229 00:11:45,001 --> 00:11:47,801 Speaker 4: was looking and living and all that led to where 230 00:11:47,801 --> 00:11:49,881 Speaker 4: I am today, and here I am looking at years 231 00:11:50,161 --> 00:11:52,441 Speaker 4: you know, but then you see people in jail whom 232 00:11:52,881 --> 00:11:55,681 Speaker 4: are okay with that, and you know, get involved in 233 00:11:55,721 --> 00:11:58,361 Speaker 4: the politics of jail and drugs and then start using 234 00:11:58,441 --> 00:12:02,681 Speaker 4: in jail, which then becomes very dangerous for people. People 235 00:12:02,761 --> 00:12:07,321 Speaker 4: end up dying over drug debts. Knows, it is a really, 236 00:12:07,481 --> 00:12:10,761 Speaker 4: really vicious circle. And you know, I've got to laugh. 237 00:12:10,921 --> 00:12:12,201 Speaker 1: I did a. 238 00:12:12,121 --> 00:12:14,801 Speaker 4: Little real during the week about me running and being 239 00:12:14,801 --> 00:12:17,401 Speaker 4: addicted to running, and it's relevant to this. I had 240 00:12:17,441 --> 00:12:20,361 Speaker 4: somebody set around say along the lines of, oh, yeah, 241 00:12:20,361 --> 00:12:23,121 Speaker 4: who cares, you're Gronk Calmer for all the pain you 242 00:12:23,161 --> 00:12:25,241 Speaker 4: brought to everybody when you were selling drugs. 243 00:12:25,801 --> 00:12:28,441 Speaker 1: Now, the post was nothing about the drugs. 244 00:12:29,121 --> 00:12:32,761 Speaker 4: The post was just about positivity, but saying that get 245 00:12:32,761 --> 00:12:37,001 Speaker 4: a healthy addiction, don't stop, keep going and live a 246 00:12:37,001 --> 00:12:39,761 Speaker 4: real positive and helping life. But this particular person felt 247 00:12:39,801 --> 00:12:42,121 Speaker 4: the need to just kick me in the guarts about 248 00:12:42,201 --> 00:12:42,841 Speaker 4: my past. 249 00:12:42,921 --> 00:12:44,681 Speaker 1: And it does and you. 250 00:12:44,641 --> 00:12:48,681 Speaker 4: Know, like, it's not like we glorify talking about this, 251 00:12:48,841 --> 00:12:52,481 Speaker 4: and definitely send out condolences to anybody it's lost, anybody 252 00:12:52,521 --> 00:12:54,761 Speaker 4: through drugs, because it is. 253 00:12:54,841 --> 00:12:55,641 Speaker 1: It's a terrible thing. 254 00:12:55,681 --> 00:12:57,441 Speaker 4: And it's not until you're sit in there and you're 255 00:12:57,441 --> 00:13:00,041 Speaker 4: doing years of jail because of those actions that you 256 00:13:00,081 --> 00:13:02,081 Speaker 4: start to ponder on the effects that you may have 257 00:13:02,601 --> 00:13:06,081 Speaker 4: in the community or around drugs. 258 00:13:05,721 --> 00:13:07,561 Speaker 1: Themselves and the people taking them. 259 00:13:08,001 --> 00:13:09,721 Speaker 4: You know, but people need to sit down and shut 260 00:13:09,761 --> 00:13:12,721 Speaker 4: the fuck up sometimes and have a real good look 261 00:13:12,721 --> 00:13:15,121 Speaker 4: at what they're talking about before they open their mouths, 262 00:13:15,121 --> 00:13:18,481 Speaker 4: because realistically, some of us that have had to experience 263 00:13:18,481 --> 00:13:20,281 Speaker 4: this life for the best people to be able to 264 00:13:20,321 --> 00:13:21,921 Speaker 4: advise others that there's a better way. 265 00:13:23,561 --> 00:13:26,721 Speaker 1: Hence what the clink's all about. So moving forward on that. 266 00:13:27,241 --> 00:13:30,321 Speaker 4: Your story today has great relevance to this season and 267 00:13:30,361 --> 00:13:32,961 Speaker 4: what we've been trying to achieve. And let's talk a 268 00:13:33,001 --> 00:13:35,401 Speaker 4: bit about your last experience because it was quite full 269 00:13:35,441 --> 00:13:38,601 Speaker 4: on for you. You did go through a process that 270 00:13:38,761 --> 00:13:41,721 Speaker 4: many have gone through, but a lot wouldn't understand in 271 00:13:41,761 --> 00:13:43,081 Speaker 4: reference to the court systems. 272 00:13:43,121 --> 00:13:44,921 Speaker 1: And now obviously you know. 273 00:13:44,841 --> 00:13:48,521 Speaker 4: What you've had to do living with repercussions and then 274 00:13:48,561 --> 00:13:51,121 Speaker 4: obviously moving forward in your own space and business and 275 00:13:51,161 --> 00:13:52,041 Speaker 4: being successful. 276 00:13:52,601 --> 00:13:55,881 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, as you know, everyone's journey through the court 277 00:13:55,961 --> 00:13:59,761 Speaker 5: system itself is different, everyone's journey through prison is different. 278 00:13:59,961 --> 00:14:03,921 Speaker 5: For me, on my raft, I got absolutely fucking bashed 279 00:14:04,401 --> 00:14:07,921 Speaker 5: and seizure because I had so much head trauma. I 280 00:14:07,961 --> 00:14:11,761 Speaker 5: didn't wake up for four days in ICU, handcuffs to 281 00:14:11,841 --> 00:14:15,001 Speaker 5: the bed, and then you know, that sort of started 282 00:14:15,041 --> 00:14:18,521 Speaker 5: that journey, and then obviously going Injuring when we were 283 00:14:18,641 --> 00:14:22,081 Speaker 5: all the COVID rules and shit like that, isolation, then 284 00:14:22,121 --> 00:14:24,201 Speaker 5: the hospital wing obviously because I was so fucked up 285 00:14:24,201 --> 00:14:26,921 Speaker 5: on meds and the drugs as well. So I already 286 00:14:26,961 --> 00:14:29,201 Speaker 5: lost like a month and a half of just basically 287 00:14:29,201 --> 00:14:33,641 Speaker 5: going from hospital then into the jail hospital, then fucking isolation, 288 00:14:33,881 --> 00:14:36,201 Speaker 5: then COVID and then into the main So that was 289 00:14:36,241 --> 00:14:37,721 Speaker 5: already like a month and alf gone. I was just 290 00:14:37,721 --> 00:14:42,041 Speaker 5: been in isolation the whole time. Detoxing. Did that work 291 00:14:42,081 --> 00:14:42,801 Speaker 5: out the best for me? 292 00:14:42,921 --> 00:14:43,081 Speaker 1: Yeah? 293 00:14:43,161 --> 00:14:46,921 Speaker 5: Probably did, because that was the first time I ever 294 00:14:47,281 --> 00:14:48,481 Speaker 5: got to be sober. 295 00:14:49,121 --> 00:14:50,681 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have wanted it any other way. 296 00:14:51,041 --> 00:14:54,121 Speaker 5: That got me sober the quickest I was by myself, 297 00:14:54,521 --> 00:14:57,401 Speaker 5: you know, fucking really take a look at what the 298 00:14:57,401 --> 00:15:00,241 Speaker 5: fuck's happening with you and yourself and try and gather 299 00:15:00,321 --> 00:15:03,681 Speaker 5: everything you can to process the next step moving forward. 300 00:15:04,241 --> 00:15:07,561 Speaker 5: And me in those isolation rooms and that that fucking 301 00:15:07,561 --> 00:15:10,201 Speaker 5: did it for me, especially when I got moved to 302 00:15:10,241 --> 00:15:13,481 Speaker 5: the COVID wing. And I got my little fucking bathroom mirror. 303 00:15:13,721 --> 00:15:15,081 Speaker 5: That was the first time I got to look at 304 00:15:15,081 --> 00:15:19,241 Speaker 5: myself sober, not on gear, looked at basically how I 305 00:15:19,321 --> 00:15:23,761 Speaker 5: looked health wise or bashed staffsmanship from the cops, and 306 00:15:23,801 --> 00:15:26,881 Speaker 5: that sunk in. That was that pivotal moment, going, mate, 307 00:15:27,081 --> 00:15:29,401 Speaker 5: you need to fucking sort something out. 308 00:15:29,201 --> 00:15:31,281 Speaker 1: In here, not wait until you get out. 309 00:15:31,321 --> 00:15:35,441 Speaker 5: You need to do something in here to make sure 310 00:15:35,921 --> 00:15:38,281 Speaker 5: you are going to head in the correct way. 311 00:15:38,601 --> 00:15:41,921 Speaker 4: And the thing is too over. The hardest thing is 312 00:15:42,001 --> 00:15:44,641 Speaker 4: no one's going to help you in there. This is 313 00:15:44,681 --> 00:15:47,121 Speaker 4: this is the reality of it. People assume that, you know, 314 00:15:47,201 --> 00:15:50,601 Speaker 4: jail is for rehabilitation. Jail fails, like I don't get 315 00:15:50,601 --> 00:15:53,201 Speaker 4: me wrong. It's a necessary sort of evil that we 316 00:15:53,321 --> 00:15:55,201 Speaker 4: need to have. And there's people that do deserve to 317 00:15:55,241 --> 00:15:58,281 Speaker 4: be in there, and there's others that really probably shouldn't 318 00:15:58,281 --> 00:15:59,961 Speaker 4: be in there, that are good people that have just 319 00:16:00,601 --> 00:16:04,041 Speaker 4: been in circumstances and situations where they've had to I 320 00:16:04,081 --> 00:16:07,161 Speaker 4: guess ax spontaneously. And there's many a stories here, and 321 00:16:07,321 --> 00:16:09,641 Speaker 4: I'm not going to go into them, but yeah, you know, 322 00:16:09,761 --> 00:16:13,761 Speaker 4: like when you look for help or educational guidance, it's 323 00:16:13,761 --> 00:16:14,161 Speaker 4: not there. 324 00:16:14,401 --> 00:16:17,281 Speaker 1: You'd be lucky if you've got a panantole. Yeah, you know, 325 00:16:17,361 --> 00:16:18,241 Speaker 1: if you get sick. 326 00:16:18,081 --> 00:16:20,001 Speaker 4: You're basically just locked down, left in a cell to 327 00:16:20,041 --> 00:16:21,961 Speaker 4: be forgotten about and get checked in on now and 328 00:16:22,041 --> 00:16:23,321 Speaker 4: again when they can get someone there. 329 00:16:23,401 --> 00:16:26,001 Speaker 1: Looky others. Yeah, no one gives a fun Yeah. Yeah, 330 00:16:26,121 --> 00:16:28,761 Speaker 1: it's true. It's very true. It's you. You're on your own. 331 00:16:28,801 --> 00:16:31,321 Speaker 4: People have this assumption, Oh you know, you've got screws, doctors, 332 00:16:31,681 --> 00:16:33,121 Speaker 4: health service and all that sort of stuff. 333 00:16:34,441 --> 00:16:36,401 Speaker 1: Please, I'll give you an example. 334 00:16:36,401 --> 00:16:39,161 Speaker 5: When I was in the order from Bernie's fucking whole 335 00:16:39,201 --> 00:16:43,561 Speaker 5: fell his matches, he's black Bourt, fucking everything. Everyone got 336 00:16:43,601 --> 00:16:46,681 Speaker 5: locked into their cell. The fucking thing was pitch black 337 00:16:46,681 --> 00:16:50,081 Speaker 5: of smoke. Bell was fucking on fire, black smoke coming out. 338 00:16:50,281 --> 00:16:53,161 Speaker 5: I'm lucky this guy didn't die. And everyone's just stuck 339 00:16:53,201 --> 00:16:56,601 Speaker 5: in their cell coffin, and I'm going these are the 340 00:16:56,681 --> 00:16:58,761 Speaker 5: last fucking things that they're ever going to come and 341 00:16:58,841 --> 00:17:01,921 Speaker 5: make sure you're okay, you know what I mean, Like 342 00:17:02,121 --> 00:17:05,441 Speaker 5: everyone in our wing upstairs and downstair. You know, I 343 00:17:05,481 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 5: would have had toxins from the smoke broke. It was 344 00:17:07,961 --> 00:17:08,481 Speaker 5: fucking bad. 345 00:17:08,881 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 4: Hey, let us think about it. The generation of today 346 00:17:11,681 --> 00:17:13,041 Speaker 4: it's fucking cool to stab someone and. 347 00:17:13,041 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: Go to JOUG with your five eighths. 348 00:17:16,921 --> 00:17:19,561 Speaker 5: It's nothing cool about There's nothing. 349 00:17:19,681 --> 00:17:23,521 Speaker 1: There is not a thing, a thing. There's nothing cool 350 00:17:23,561 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: about it. 351 00:17:24,120 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 5: Yes, like exactly like you said, there's people that absolutely 352 00:17:27,120 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 5: need to go, and there's people for me. I needed 353 00:17:30,201 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 5: to go because I didn't go to reab. I should 354 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 5: have went to rehab. I needed to go to rehab. 355 00:17:34,961 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 5: But you know, I didn't do anything about it. I 356 00:17:36,761 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 5: wasn't proactive. I didn't have people around me to go. Mate, Fuck, 357 00:17:40,001 --> 00:17:42,641 Speaker 5: will fucking take you. I literally had a phone call 358 00:17:42,721 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 5: three weeks before me getting done. I was fucking bore 359 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,281 Speaker 5: my eyes out, trying to take my life, like three times, 360 00:17:47,321 --> 00:17:49,361 Speaker 5: trying to hang myself, trying to take this like did 361 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 5: Everything is. 362 00:17:50,001 --> 00:17:51,001 Speaker 1: A fucking mess. 363 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,241 Speaker 5: And then I got done, and I was saying, fuck, 364 00:17:55,481 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, because you're giving me a 365 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,041 Speaker 5: second chance. Where I was in the fucking worst mental 366 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 5: place I was I could ever feel and I never 367 00:18:03,801 --> 00:18:06,481 Speaker 5: ever want me to feel like that, and I never 368 00:18:06,521 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 5: want anyone else to feel like that, being on the 369 00:18:08,561 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 5: drugs and all those sort of things, you know what 370 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 5: I mean? 371 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: I do think and for my experience as well. I 372 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,721 Speaker 1: had to hit rock bottom. 373 00:18:15,041 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 4: I needed to really sort of you know, copp in 374 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:22,321 Speaker 4: a six year sentence with you know, my wife, she 375 00:18:22,481 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 4: was pregnant with our second child, five months pregnant, you know, 376 00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:27,281 Speaker 4: knowing that I would not be there to see my 377 00:18:27,321 --> 00:18:30,561 Speaker 4: son born. Looking at double figures, it's only then that 378 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 4: you realize that you need to find a better way. 379 00:18:33,761 --> 00:18:36,521 Speaker 4: And can I be honest and probably say that I 380 00:18:36,561 --> 00:18:39,041 Speaker 4: have no doubt now that if I'd continue down that road, 381 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 4: I could have been one of the many statistics that 382 00:18:41,801 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 4: was shot dead because of the pubs and the people 383 00:18:44,721 --> 00:18:46,681 Speaker 4: that I was around and the way that it was. 384 00:18:47,001 --> 00:18:49,321 Speaker 1: Or doing, you know, life in jail. 385 00:18:50,041 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 4: So sometimes you've got to thank God that these things 386 00:18:53,441 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 4: do happen. I totally get what you're saying, because for me, 387 00:18:56,921 --> 00:19:00,601 Speaker 4: I can relate in respect to I'm actually grateful that 388 00:19:00,681 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 4: my last jail sentence happened. I'm not grateful for that 389 00:19:03,481 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 4: what I missed out, But that's part of what you do. 390 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,561 Speaker 4: You know, what you're doing is wrong and there's consequences, 391 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 4: and at the end of the day, that's what has 392 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 4: to happen. 393 00:19:09,961 --> 00:19:11,361 Speaker 1: So it's a. 394 00:19:11,321 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 4: Turning point in many people's lives. And you're seeing more today, 395 00:19:14,561 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 4: some good men and women that are actually coming out 396 00:19:17,321 --> 00:19:20,521 Speaker 4: realizing that they've had enough. Just the way the structure 397 00:19:20,561 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 4: of jail is today and the way that the system is, 398 00:19:22,921 --> 00:19:25,801 Speaker 4: the laws, you know, like you can't beat it. The 399 00:19:26,001 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 4: technology is just so far advanced, and jail is just 400 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 4: absolutely putrid, putred. You know, I wouldn't expect someone it's 401 00:19:34,201 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 4: undone a couple of months to sort of have this 402 00:19:35,921 --> 00:19:38,201 Speaker 4: same sort of mindset, And I hope that it's enough 403 00:19:38,241 --> 00:19:42,041 Speaker 4: for them to have this mindset. Yeah, when you've done 404 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:44,841 Speaker 4: years and you've seen change, You've seen a lot of 405 00:19:45,001 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 4: things happen. You know, you're talking from I don't even 406 00:19:48,441 --> 00:19:50,001 Speaker 4: want to get into it on here, but you both 407 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,121 Speaker 4: know what takes place in there. But anyway, yeah, bro, 408 00:19:52,681 --> 00:19:55,881 Speaker 4: it's not nice, not nice for anyone. Everybody is vulnerable. 409 00:19:55,921 --> 00:19:57,321 Speaker 4: And I ain't give a fuck how much money you've 410 00:19:57,321 --> 00:19:59,321 Speaker 4: got and what sort of a hardh ranking member of 411 00:19:59,321 --> 00:20:01,161 Speaker 4: whatever you are or you will get got. 412 00:20:01,201 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: It's been proven time and time again. You've got nowhere 413 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,241 Speaker 1: to hide. 414 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 4: Later your time will come catch us up, and bro, 415 00:20:08,761 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 4: you can't escape it. So you know, at the end 416 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,801 Speaker 4: of the day, if you want to live your life 417 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 4: like that, constantly in at a revolving door. 418 00:20:14,961 --> 00:20:16,241 Speaker 1: Then hey to you. 419 00:20:16,241 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 4: But if anybody out there want to take a little 420 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,681 Speaker 4: bit of advice from people like us, please listen in. 421 00:20:21,721 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 4: And you basically come out of jail, you got bail, 422 00:20:27,241 --> 00:20:28,681 Speaker 4: talk to us about that process. 423 00:20:28,721 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: And because you had a home D. 424 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,801 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, so obviously got Supreme Court bail, then 425 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,401 Speaker 5: got home D with a bracelet, and then that ended 426 00:20:37,441 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 5: up going on for two years, bro, And saying, like 427 00:20:40,281 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 5: I said, you know, with my situation, that was probably 428 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,601 Speaker 5: the best thing for me. Don't go anywhere, don't see anyone, 429 00:20:47,001 --> 00:20:49,161 Speaker 5: And the fact that I was in a really good 430 00:20:49,241 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 5: routine from jail, you know, waking up early training, just 431 00:20:53,521 --> 00:20:57,281 Speaker 5: being in a really really good mindset, and then giving 432 00:20:57,281 --> 00:20:59,241 Speaker 5: me that home D that was probably the best thing 433 00:20:59,321 --> 00:21:01,561 Speaker 5: for me because I just come out and did the 434 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,561 Speaker 5: exact same thing. 435 00:21:02,681 --> 00:21:04,921 Speaker 1: I fucking woke up early five o'clock. 436 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,361 Speaker 5: I did my training in the backyard the same way 437 00:21:07,441 --> 00:21:10,041 Speaker 5: I was training in jail, and I was eating clean food, 438 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:15,041 Speaker 5: and I just started to really take advantage of that 439 00:21:15,241 --> 00:21:19,481 Speaker 5: being home and staying in that mindset and that structure, 440 00:21:19,721 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 5: that was probably the best thing for me as well. 441 00:21:22,441 --> 00:21:25,961 Speaker 5: And then my downtime being at home, I just put 442 00:21:25,961 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 5: it into good efforts of you know, finishing my pt 443 00:21:29,441 --> 00:21:31,801 Speaker 5: SERTs and doing my nutrition course. 444 00:21:32,041 --> 00:21:33,361 Speaker 1: You know, being at home for two years. 445 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,681 Speaker 5: There's only so much you can do, so I put 446 00:21:36,721 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 5: it to good use and all those sort of things. 447 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: Bro, I started to really come evident that fuck, this. 448 00:21:43,321 --> 00:21:45,041 Speaker 5: Is what I want to do. I want to help myself. 449 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:47,281 Speaker 5: I want to get healthy. I want to help other people. 450 00:21:47,681 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 5: I fell in that key. Isn't that key? 451 00:21:49,761 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 4: I just want to touch on that for it that 452 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,521 Speaker 4: you said, I help myself. We all want to try 453 00:21:54,561 --> 00:21:56,481 Speaker 4: and make change, but how many of us are willing 454 00:21:56,521 --> 00:21:59,721 Speaker 4: to actually work on ourself? This is the key, I think, 455 00:21:59,801 --> 00:22:03,161 Speaker 4: and for me personally, I've been able to. I'm still 456 00:22:03,201 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 4: working on myself. If we got like today is a 457 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 4: shit day for me, My diets out the window, and 458 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 4: my mental states, you know, not stable at the moment, 459 00:22:12,441 --> 00:22:14,321 Speaker 4: purely because of life and everything going on. 460 00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:15,481 Speaker 1: I'm stressed about work. 461 00:22:15,521 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 4: You know, the weather's completely fucked me for three weeks, 462 00:22:18,681 --> 00:22:20,481 Speaker 4: so my mental state is just shot. 463 00:22:20,761 --> 00:22:22,961 Speaker 1: As a father, as a provider, as. 464 00:22:22,721 --> 00:22:24,481 Speaker 4: You know, the person that ever looks to is says, 465 00:22:24,721 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 4: you know, Dad, or how are we going to do this. 466 00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:27,401 Speaker 1: We've got to get this, we need that. 467 00:22:28,041 --> 00:22:31,001 Speaker 4: You're going Fuck, but I've got to be able to 468 00:22:31,001 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 4: turn around and look at myself and be proud of 469 00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:36,761 Speaker 4: myself and where I'm at and not try and let. 470 00:22:36,721 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: That sort of drag me back to that negative place. 471 00:22:41,441 --> 00:22:43,961 Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing when people like are trying 472 00:22:43,961 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 5: to obviously, you know, you do good and things like that, 473 00:22:46,001 --> 00:22:48,801 Speaker 5: but it's like it's okay to take a step back, 474 00:22:49,521 --> 00:22:53,241 Speaker 5: take acknowledgement of where you come from and what you're doing, 475 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 5: and like those little things that you're actually achieving, and 476 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 5: that does help in the long run for you know, 477 00:22:59,761 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 5: your personal development, because you want to work on yourself 478 00:23:04,281 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 5: to the point where you're providing the best version of 479 00:23:09,241 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 5: yourself to others so they can enjoy that they're going 480 00:23:12,681 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 5: to get. 481 00:23:12,921 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: The most out of you. 482 00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 5: You know, when you're really knuckling down on your self, 483 00:23:20,041 --> 00:23:22,681 Speaker 5: whether it is you know, your diet and nutrition, your mindset, 484 00:23:22,961 --> 00:23:25,801 Speaker 5: you know, for family anything, whatever it is that you 485 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,881 Speaker 5: need to work on, but it comes out to you, 486 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,801 Speaker 5: you know, it to the mates, your family, your friends, 487 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,641 Speaker 5: your wife, your kids. Okay, they get to take in 488 00:23:33,761 --> 00:23:36,761 Speaker 5: that next level of you and it comes out in 489 00:23:36,801 --> 00:23:38,441 Speaker 5: your work and everything else. 490 00:23:38,481 --> 00:23:38,641 Speaker 1: Bro. 491 00:23:39,961 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, it's a tough road and I think you 492 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 4: know this is the beauty about the Clink is having 493 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,801 Speaker 4: guests on that are able to share their experience and 494 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,801 Speaker 4: give people hope. I get a lot of I guess 495 00:23:50,801 --> 00:23:54,841 Speaker 4: satisfaction out of each person or interview weekly because for me, 496 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,041 Speaker 4: there's always something new, there's always something to take in 497 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 4: my toolbox, as I like to call it, you know 498 00:23:59,921 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 4: what I mean. And not only is it something that 499 00:24:02,201 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 4: enables others out there to find hope and you know, 500 00:24:05,481 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 4: follow the dreams and the beliefs and to realize that 501 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,241 Speaker 4: people like yourselves and you know, the under hundreds of 502 00:24:10,281 --> 00:24:12,481 Speaker 4: guests that have been on here in the seventeen seasons 503 00:24:12,561 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 4: is you can do it. 504 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,281 Speaker 1: But it's fucking hard. It's not easy. 505 00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 4: And you know my point of saying how I'm feeling 506 00:24:19,921 --> 00:24:22,161 Speaker 4: today speaking to you because I know that you work 507 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:22,961 Speaker 4: in this space as. 508 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,201 Speaker 1: Well as not every day is a good fucking day. 509 00:24:26,801 --> 00:24:29,521 Speaker 1: You like it's not. And you can be out there 510 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:30,961 Speaker 1: and leading in your industry. 511 00:24:31,001 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 4: You can be out there promoting to the world how 512 00:24:33,721 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 4: awesome this is and how positive and get up and 513 00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 4: do your breath work and have a cold shower and 514 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 4: have a pool and fucking you know, like it's you're 515 00:24:40,921 --> 00:24:43,321 Speaker 4: going to feel on top of the world, Like fuck you, 516 00:24:43,801 --> 00:24:46,561 Speaker 4: that ain't true. You know, like there's things that we 517 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:51,961 Speaker 4: can do to assist how we will feel daily, obviously 518 00:24:52,001 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 4: through you know, a positive wellness, our exercise, our diet, mindset, 519 00:24:56,801 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 4: breath work. Well, that's relevant, and I really am a 520 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,561 Speaker 4: big believer and all that, but implementing that daily when 521 00:25:02,561 --> 00:25:06,681 Speaker 4: you're feeling at your lowest or low is exceptionally hard, 522 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,881 Speaker 4: and sometimes not all of us can pull ourselves out 523 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,281 Speaker 4: of that space, and it can last days, if not weeks. 524 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,161 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, amen to that, bro. 525 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,001 Speaker 5: I just had someone on my Instagram literally just before 526 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 5: we jumped on. She's in America and she's been a 527 00:25:20,721 --> 00:25:23,721 Speaker 5: messaging me wanted to get on my program, but she's 528 00:25:23,761 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 5: an actual coach, and I just said, you're probably not 529 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:30,041 Speaker 5: someone i'll take on because you don't have certain things. 530 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 5: And then she sent me a message she's crying. So 531 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 5: I just called her, so, okay, so what's going on 532 00:25:33,761 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 5: with your life. I'm a coach, I should know this. 533 00:25:36,441 --> 00:25:39,441 Speaker 5: I said, Okay, but we're not always going to win. 534 00:25:39,561 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 5: We're not going to win all our days. We're not 535 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,801 Speaker 5: going to win all the moments. I said, let's just 536 00:25:43,921 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 5: take back and have a look and acknowledge what is 537 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,241 Speaker 5: going on so you can see because if you don't acknowledge. 538 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: Peel it back. 539 00:25:52,281 --> 00:25:56,961 Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're not acknowledging what's going wrong, if there's 540 00:25:57,001 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 5: an issue, how can you fix it? You have to 541 00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:03,521 Speaker 5: see what is happening. Then you can adjust, so you 542 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 5: readjust make a new plan and structure around that. And no, 543 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,121 Speaker 5: we don't always win the days, but if you can 544 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 5: acknowledge that that's happening, then you can break down and go, Okay, 545 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,681 Speaker 5: well this is happening. What can I do to help 546 00:26:18,721 --> 00:26:22,801 Speaker 5: this situation or this moment? What can I do starting now? 547 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 5: That's going to try and shift that, you know what 548 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,201 Speaker 5: I mean. 549 00:26:26,521 --> 00:26:29,441 Speaker 4: I think that's a really valid point to everybody out 550 00:26:29,441 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 4: there that is struggling. 551 00:26:30,521 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: Know that you are not alone. 552 00:26:31,681 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 4: And I'm saying that in the mirror to myself as well, 553 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,161 Speaker 4: So it's not just me sitting up here saying, oh, 554 00:26:36,201 --> 00:26:39,721 Speaker 4: you're not alone. I needed to hear today from somebody 555 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 4: that it's all good, It's okay to feel the way 556 00:26:42,481 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 4: you're feeling. 557 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm starting to feel a. 558 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 4: Little bit more pepped up already just having this chat 559 00:26:46,441 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 4: with you, because it's something that I'm passionate about as 560 00:26:49,561 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 4: much as it was a struggle for me, because you know, 561 00:26:52,001 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 4: to deliver the best podcast, I want to be at 562 00:26:54,241 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 4: my best. I want to have the best opportunity for 563 00:26:56,961 --> 00:26:58,721 Speaker 4: my guests to have the best of me, and then 564 00:26:58,921 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 4: that then portrays out to the public and everybody that 565 00:27:02,241 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 4: listens weekly. 566 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,041 Speaker 1: So this is the therapeutic for me right now. And 567 00:27:07,281 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: it's great. 568 00:27:07,921 --> 00:27:12,001 Speaker 4: Because you know we're talking, we've never physically met, we 569 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,041 Speaker 4: both share similar stories in different ways. It's relative and 570 00:27:16,481 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 4: it relates to so many people out there, you know. 571 00:27:19,241 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 4: So if you're one of those people out there that 572 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 4: are feeling it today and listening to this, then I 573 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,201 Speaker 4: hope that this inspires and picks you up a little 574 00:27:25,201 --> 00:27:28,201 Speaker 4: bit and gives you some sort of positive in your 575 00:27:28,281 --> 00:27:30,161 Speaker 4: time and your day, because I know that. 576 00:27:30,721 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: This is life. Yeah, what we have to do right. 577 00:27:34,801 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 5: Some people forget or like I'd like to say too 578 00:27:37,441 --> 00:27:39,801 Speaker 5: to my clients or other people, like at the end 579 00:27:39,801 --> 00:27:42,401 Speaker 5: of the day, like life happens, and what I mean 580 00:27:42,441 --> 00:27:44,761 Speaker 5: by that, like shit fucking happens in life. 581 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:45,681 Speaker 1: It does. 582 00:27:46,321 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 5: But learning to acknowledge where the things go wrong and 583 00:27:51,721 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 5: how to handle them is a different story, okay, because 584 00:27:54,961 --> 00:27:58,121 Speaker 5: then you can break down and handle the situations when 585 00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 5: they reoccur, and you're going to get better at that 586 00:28:00,681 --> 00:28:03,521 Speaker 5: and it won't affect you as much. And then over 587 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 5: time those things are going to get better and better 588 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,001 Speaker 5: and better and better, so you won't be feeling as 589 00:28:09,041 --> 00:28:12,001 Speaker 5: bad if that same situation happens. You know how to respond, 590 00:28:12,041 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 5: you know how to handle it, and that's going to shift. 591 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,041 Speaker 5: You know your mindset and if that negative energy sort 592 00:28:17,041 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 5: of comes, maybe for a shorter moment, and then you 593 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:21,201 Speaker 5: can get on with the day and other things will 594 00:28:21,241 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 5: flow and work better for you. 595 00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 4: You've taken a lot of steps to bettering yourself. You've 596 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 4: been very successful and you're growing as we speak. There's 597 00:28:32,201 --> 00:28:35,161 Speaker 4: a lot of things happening around you that's a real 598 00:28:35,241 --> 00:28:38,201 Speaker 4: positive in your life, that's inspiring, that is helping many 599 00:28:38,281 --> 00:28:40,841 Speaker 4: people out there. And I'm not going to sit here 600 00:28:40,881 --> 00:28:44,641 Speaker 4: and bullshit. I generally don't take on the whole health coach, 601 00:28:44,721 --> 00:28:47,121 Speaker 4: life coach. If anything, I'm usually the one that says, 602 00:28:47,321 --> 00:28:49,561 Speaker 4: get a fucking life, like most people are just like 603 00:28:49,721 --> 00:28:52,921 Speaker 4: to live. Well, it's true, you know, like, I'm not one. 604 00:28:52,761 --> 00:28:55,561 Speaker 1: To sit here and talk shit about it. I'll be honest, 605 00:28:55,601 --> 00:28:55,761 Speaker 1: you know. 606 00:28:56,041 --> 00:29:00,641 Speaker 4: And you're probably at a two hundred and nearly sixteen 607 00:29:00,721 --> 00:29:04,961 Speaker 4: seventeen guests. I would say probably the third health coach 608 00:29:05,161 --> 00:29:09,281 Speaker 4: sort of. You know that I've a couple of people 609 00:29:09,321 --> 00:29:13,281 Speaker 4: that I've really been inspired by. Different story. But there's 610 00:29:13,361 --> 00:29:15,761 Speaker 4: so many pieces like PTS. Everyone wants to be a PT. 611 00:29:16,001 --> 00:29:19,721 Speaker 4: Well yeah, sorry, but find a new fucking profession because 612 00:29:19,801 --> 00:29:22,001 Speaker 4: you can find a thousand pts between. 613 00:29:21,681 --> 00:29:23,321 Speaker 1: Here and you know the end of the street. 614 00:29:24,121 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 4: And like, kudos to every PT out there, but man, wow, 615 00:29:28,081 --> 00:29:30,841 Speaker 4: there was a time where you actually could find a 616 00:29:30,921 --> 00:29:33,641 Speaker 4: PT that you could work with, you respected to listen to. 617 00:29:34,321 --> 00:29:36,561 Speaker 1: I guess it's no different the pressure washing industry. Now. 618 00:29:36,641 --> 00:29:38,681 Speaker 4: You know, you've got every man and his dog out 619 00:29:38,681 --> 00:29:41,841 Speaker 4: there uninsured, got these shitty little setups and they're out 620 00:29:41,841 --> 00:29:43,921 Speaker 4: there undercut and all us bloats that are doing it 621 00:29:43,921 --> 00:29:46,401 Speaker 4: the right way for hundreds and hundreds of dollars and 622 00:29:46,441 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 4: we're losing the jobs because of it, you know. So 623 00:29:50,201 --> 00:29:53,081 Speaker 4: I just wanted to just touch on having you on here. 624 00:29:53,441 --> 00:29:56,121 Speaker 4: I personally have looked at some of your stuff and 625 00:29:56,201 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 4: thought for myself. I like it, you know, I like 626 00:29:59,281 --> 00:30:01,801 Speaker 4: what you're about. I like where you're at. And you're 627 00:30:01,841 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 4: not just another health coach, do you know you're actually 628 00:30:06,041 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 4: somebody that truly has taken the steps to make a 629 00:30:10,561 --> 00:30:15,281 Speaker 4: difference and really sort of having a connection with people 630 00:30:15,321 --> 00:30:17,361 Speaker 4: in a really really good way, in a healthy way. 631 00:30:17,401 --> 00:30:19,321 Speaker 1: I won't just keep using the word positive, because fucking 632 00:30:19,361 --> 00:30:23,241 Speaker 1: fuck positive. Positive is good to talk about it. Life's life. 633 00:30:23,281 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 4: Like we just admitted, there's no point going, oh, well, 634 00:30:25,281 --> 00:30:26,121 Speaker 4: it's a positive play. 635 00:30:28,241 --> 00:30:29,241 Speaker 1: But health and. 636 00:30:29,201 --> 00:30:31,601 Speaker 4: Wellness is great, and that's what we need. We need 637 00:30:31,641 --> 00:30:34,161 Speaker 4: to be healthy within ourselves for our mental health, our 638 00:30:34,161 --> 00:30:37,881 Speaker 4: physical health, and that's something that you now are doing 639 00:30:38,041 --> 00:30:39,961 Speaker 4: very very well in and helping people through. 640 00:30:41,001 --> 00:30:45,041 Speaker 5: Yeah. I think it sort of stems back from my 641 00:30:45,161 --> 00:30:47,961 Speaker 5: story where I said, you know, taking all those drugs and. 642 00:30:48,441 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely fucked my guts. So this is sort of what 643 00:30:51,641 --> 00:30:52,361 Speaker 1: led me to this. 644 00:30:52,601 --> 00:30:55,241 Speaker 5: And then obviously once I was in hospital and we 645 00:30:55,361 --> 00:30:58,001 Speaker 5: got other reports and shit because I was trying to 646 00:30:58,001 --> 00:31:00,881 Speaker 5: find drugs inside my body and they reckon us stash 647 00:31:00,961 --> 00:31:03,601 Speaker 5: fucking hats and shit my organs. So obviously when I 648 00:31:03,641 --> 00:31:06,321 Speaker 5: was unconscious they put camera up me and whatnot. And 649 00:31:06,921 --> 00:31:08,961 Speaker 5: they didn't find of them, but they gave me. 650 00:31:08,921 --> 00:31:11,761 Speaker 4: A come on, bro, your shelf was full, doesn't lie 651 00:31:11,881 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 4: you fucking you loaded your little pocket. 652 00:31:14,521 --> 00:31:17,121 Speaker 1: You're a little safe. You loaded it up. They thought 653 00:31:17,161 --> 00:31:22,641 Speaker 1: I fucking had a shipping or something, bro, Like that's 654 00:31:22,681 --> 00:31:23,721 Speaker 1: a cracker. Bro. 655 00:31:23,921 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 5: These guys had me unconscious, going where is it? 656 00:31:29,561 --> 00:31:31,281 Speaker 1: Like? Where is it? He's on the drugs, that's why 657 00:31:31,281 --> 00:31:32,081 Speaker 1: he's unconscious. 658 00:31:32,121 --> 00:31:34,001 Speaker 5: No, you just beat the fuck out of me, like 659 00:31:34,041 --> 00:31:37,001 Speaker 5: all ten of yours. The doctor's report basically come back 660 00:31:37,041 --> 00:31:39,761 Speaker 5: and said, like, mate, you've got ulcers, you've got cysts 661 00:31:39,841 --> 00:31:42,281 Speaker 5: all inside, you got your organs and that would have 662 00:31:42,321 --> 00:31:46,001 Speaker 5: been from the gear. And that really got to me, 663 00:31:46,441 --> 00:31:48,321 Speaker 5: And I'm thinking, what am I going to do? Like 664 00:31:48,521 --> 00:31:50,321 Speaker 5: you know, fuck, we're gonna have to get shit cut out, 665 00:31:50,321 --> 00:31:52,361 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I'm just thinking medications and 666 00:31:52,401 --> 00:31:56,201 Speaker 5: all this crap. And that really pushed me working on 667 00:31:57,121 --> 00:31:59,841 Speaker 5: not saying fitness coach and a health coach, but just 668 00:31:59,961 --> 00:32:03,321 Speaker 5: looking at disease and the body itself and how can 669 00:32:03,361 --> 00:32:06,001 Speaker 5: you fix how can you fix some of these really 670 00:32:06,041 --> 00:32:09,321 Speaker 5: severe issues that most people have. There's got to be 671 00:32:09,401 --> 00:32:12,841 Speaker 5: other answers than just doctors and living with it. 672 00:32:13,041 --> 00:32:14,401 Speaker 1: There's got to be something else. 673 00:32:14,881 --> 00:32:18,681 Speaker 5: And that's sort of where I dove down to help 674 00:32:18,801 --> 00:32:21,641 Speaker 5: people that are suffering that they don't need to. 675 00:32:21,761 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: They've been fucking lied to, you know. 676 00:32:23,441 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 5: I mean most of these people that I've dealt with 677 00:32:25,681 --> 00:32:28,681 Speaker 5: have been lied to you straight to their fucking face, saying, oh, 678 00:32:28,721 --> 00:32:29,841 Speaker 5: you've got this, that's it. 679 00:32:30,041 --> 00:32:31,801 Speaker 1: You just fucking take these medications for the rest of 680 00:32:31,841 --> 00:32:35,401 Speaker 1: your life. There's fucking bullshit, bro. Yeah, do you know 681 00:32:35,401 --> 00:32:35,761 Speaker 1: what I mean? 682 00:32:35,841 --> 00:32:39,321 Speaker 5: Like it really like really gets to me, like really 683 00:32:39,361 --> 00:32:41,881 Speaker 5: emotionally gets to me when I see someone you know, 684 00:32:42,041 --> 00:32:46,281 Speaker 5: psoriasis X, my skin issues, type two fucking diabetes. 685 00:32:46,281 --> 00:32:46,521 Speaker 1: Bro. 686 00:32:46,801 --> 00:32:51,241 Speaker 5: These fuckers have been on medications and struggling and all 687 00:32:51,281 --> 00:32:52,881 Speaker 5: this shit for the you know, a long time and 688 00:32:52,921 --> 00:32:55,281 Speaker 5: part of their life. But hey, I've managed to get 689 00:32:55,321 --> 00:32:59,641 Speaker 5: people that are typed two off off medication fully healthy 690 00:33:00,121 --> 00:33:02,561 Speaker 5: and these guys have been lied straight to their fucking face. 691 00:33:03,241 --> 00:33:06,241 Speaker 4: And that kills me, bro. Yeah, And that's the thing. 692 00:33:06,961 --> 00:33:09,561 Speaker 4: You know, You've got to really sort of start to. 693 00:33:09,561 --> 00:33:14,361 Speaker 1: Weigh it all up. And I mean, you know, experience. 694 00:33:13,801 --> 00:33:18,161 Speaker 4: Is a really beautiful thing lived experience and knowing what 695 00:33:18,201 --> 00:33:20,441 Speaker 4: you're talking about, you know, I'm being able to help 696 00:33:20,481 --> 00:33:24,441 Speaker 4: others that are in that position. That is such an 697 00:33:24,481 --> 00:33:27,921 Speaker 4: important thing. You have now that experience and you do 698 00:33:28,081 --> 00:33:32,561 Speaker 4: have that knowledge. How is life today? And yeah, let's 699 00:33:32,561 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 4: talk about exactly what it is that you're doing and 700 00:33:35,041 --> 00:33:37,761 Speaker 4: through your business and the reach and the success you're 701 00:33:37,761 --> 00:33:38,321 Speaker 4: having with it. 702 00:33:38,601 --> 00:33:41,761 Speaker 5: I started the business five months ago, so you know 703 00:33:41,841 --> 00:33:44,361 Speaker 5: my Instagram page I started five months ago. 704 00:33:44,521 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: I signed my first client. 705 00:33:46,721 --> 00:33:49,561 Speaker 5: You know, people were telling me just just go with it, 706 00:33:49,681 --> 00:33:50,601 Speaker 5: you know so much. 707 00:33:50,721 --> 00:33:51,841 Speaker 1: Put it out there, you know. 708 00:33:51,961 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 5: So I was like, fuck it, just be true to me, 709 00:33:54,601 --> 00:33:56,761 Speaker 5: be true to my knowledge and my practices that I 710 00:33:56,841 --> 00:33:59,721 Speaker 5: know being a carnival, and just put it out there. 711 00:33:59,801 --> 00:34:02,401 Speaker 5: Fuck anyone that says, oh no, that's not healthy, I 712 00:34:02,441 --> 00:34:05,841 Speaker 5: said whatever, and I just I've gone with it. And 713 00:34:05,881 --> 00:34:09,241 Speaker 5: it's been the best thing I've ever done, bro. And 714 00:34:09,281 --> 00:34:13,241 Speaker 5: it's been the most rewarding because I have literally. 715 00:34:12,921 --> 00:34:16,721 Speaker 1: Seen people fucking change their life. Bro. I've seen people 716 00:34:17,001 --> 00:34:17,761 Speaker 1: call me crying. 717 00:34:17,881 --> 00:34:22,441 Speaker 5: I've seen people get off fucking any depressants, fucking medications 718 00:34:22,481 --> 00:34:26,401 Speaker 5: that I've seen so much and knowing that I can 719 00:34:26,521 --> 00:34:29,241 Speaker 5: help someone and they can turn around and be like, 720 00:34:29,401 --> 00:34:31,721 Speaker 5: thank you so much. I'm not in pain, I'm not 721 00:34:31,761 --> 00:34:34,521 Speaker 5: struggling with medication. I'm not in you know, depressed and 722 00:34:34,641 --> 00:34:38,281 Speaker 5: all these things, but I cannot give you the feeling 723 00:34:38,321 --> 00:34:42,441 Speaker 5: and the words from someone who was an adict, know 724 00:34:42,521 --> 00:34:44,841 Speaker 5: on how fucked up you know your mental health can 725 00:34:44,881 --> 00:34:48,681 Speaker 5: be and suicidal then being someone that actually caused damage 726 00:34:48,761 --> 00:34:52,881 Speaker 5: to people now being able to go, I'm going to 727 00:34:52,961 --> 00:34:56,561 Speaker 5: help as many as people like in health, fitness, mental health, 728 00:34:56,841 --> 00:34:57,401 Speaker 5: you name it. 729 00:34:57,521 --> 00:35:01,041 Speaker 1: So, I mean it is the best thing I've ever done. 730 00:35:01,761 --> 00:35:03,881 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is, And I think that you know, like 731 00:35:04,321 --> 00:35:07,601 Speaker 4: from my point, I don't know. I think what works 732 00:35:07,601 --> 00:35:09,841 Speaker 4: for some may not work for others. I try to 733 00:35:10,041 --> 00:35:13,561 Speaker 4: do a lot of health in my own life in 734 00:35:13,601 --> 00:35:18,041 Speaker 4: reference to diet and physical health. And look, sometimes it's 735 00:35:18,881 --> 00:35:21,681 Speaker 4: definitely would ensuit others, especially forty nine years of age 736 00:35:21,681 --> 00:35:23,801 Speaker 4: going out and running between twenty and thirty k's in 737 00:35:23,841 --> 00:35:24,841 Speaker 4: one run, you know. 738 00:35:24,841 --> 00:35:29,281 Speaker 1: Like it, but it works for me. It works for me. 739 00:35:29,481 --> 00:35:32,601 Speaker 4: So, you know, going down to nutrition and diet and 740 00:35:32,601 --> 00:35:34,721 Speaker 4: all that sort of stuff, you know, I see that 741 00:35:34,801 --> 00:35:37,561 Speaker 4: you promote a lot of carnival style of eating and 742 00:35:37,601 --> 00:35:38,561 Speaker 4: all that sort of stuff. 743 00:35:39,081 --> 00:35:42,361 Speaker 1: You know, Why so much are you focused. 744 00:35:41,841 --> 00:35:44,481 Speaker 4: On the carnival side of dieting and what makes that 745 00:35:44,601 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 4: so much better than you know, anybody else out there. 746 00:35:48,641 --> 00:35:51,241 Speaker 5: It just made sense to me when I okay, so 747 00:35:51,361 --> 00:35:53,921 Speaker 5: I'm going to You know, they can call me conspiracy whatever. 748 00:35:53,921 --> 00:35:56,321 Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck knowing that you know, you 749 00:35:56,401 --> 00:35:57,961 Speaker 5: and me have been through the system. We know what 750 00:35:58,001 --> 00:36:01,241 Speaker 5: the system's like. And it's no different when it comes 751 00:36:01,281 --> 00:36:04,441 Speaker 5: to medication. When it comes to nutrition. Okay, it's not 752 00:36:04,601 --> 00:36:08,801 Speaker 5: all just in black and white. It's fucking read between 753 00:36:08,841 --> 00:36:11,401 Speaker 5: the lines sort of thing, hidden messages, you name it. 754 00:36:12,121 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 5: And when I started diving really deep with nutrition and 755 00:36:15,721 --> 00:36:18,961 Speaker 5: disease and their medications made there's all these fucking dots 756 00:36:19,001 --> 00:36:22,001 Speaker 5: that just it don't make sense. So if we strip 757 00:36:22,041 --> 00:36:24,161 Speaker 5: it all back and I started looking at just the 758 00:36:24,201 --> 00:36:29,321 Speaker 5: real basics, the way tribes were eating and their lifestyle. 759 00:36:29,721 --> 00:36:32,241 Speaker 5: When I was looking at the way they live, these 760 00:36:32,241 --> 00:36:33,401 Speaker 5: guys don't have disease. 761 00:36:33,721 --> 00:36:36,201 Speaker 1: Why is that what makes them different? 762 00:36:36,241 --> 00:36:40,041 Speaker 5: And they're still tribes out there today that have no 763 00:36:40,161 --> 00:36:44,401 Speaker 5: idea about fucking technology and fucking food how easy food 764 00:36:44,481 --> 00:36:48,361 Speaker 5: is for us and fridges. But these guys don't have cancer, 765 00:36:48,561 --> 00:36:52,401 Speaker 5: these guys don't have diabetes, So what is happening here? 766 00:36:52,721 --> 00:36:57,321 Speaker 5: So when I look into Carnival. It's the basic way 767 00:36:57,361 --> 00:37:00,681 Speaker 5: of stripping it or peeling it all back to basics, 768 00:37:01,001 --> 00:37:03,521 Speaker 5: just to get yourself a good foundation for your health 769 00:37:04,321 --> 00:37:06,721 Speaker 5: and that sort of where I really dive into it. 770 00:37:06,761 --> 00:37:09,841 Speaker 1: Brian, and I guess that's what you're passionate about. 771 00:37:09,921 --> 00:37:13,601 Speaker 4: And that's what having guests on here is to inspire people. 772 00:37:13,601 --> 00:37:16,201 Speaker 4: Whether you're right or wrong, so there's no judgment. It 773 00:37:16,281 --> 00:37:19,361 Speaker 4: may work for you and what your beliefs are. I 774 00:37:19,401 --> 00:37:22,361 Speaker 4: could have a vegan or a vegetarian person on here 775 00:37:22,441 --> 00:37:25,241 Speaker 4: next week that sees things from a different perspective that 776 00:37:25,281 --> 00:37:28,441 Speaker 4: he or she may feel that that's appropriate for what 777 00:37:28,441 --> 00:37:31,801 Speaker 4: they're trying to achieve. I guess the biggest thing here 778 00:37:32,041 --> 00:37:34,641 Speaker 4: and basically having you on to deliver your story is 779 00:37:34,641 --> 00:37:38,321 Speaker 4: the success around what you believe in chasing that dream, 780 00:37:38,401 --> 00:37:43,201 Speaker 4: being authentic and being able to implement all the things 781 00:37:43,241 --> 00:37:47,721 Speaker 4: that you've learned and worked hard to understand to then 782 00:37:47,801 --> 00:37:50,761 Speaker 4: be able to deliver a trusted product if you will, 783 00:37:50,881 --> 00:37:53,201 Speaker 4: or knowledge that will help others. 784 00:37:53,721 --> 00:37:55,401 Speaker 1: Let's talk about a business sense. 785 00:37:55,801 --> 00:37:58,281 Speaker 4: How did you structure your business, how did it get started, 786 00:37:58,281 --> 00:38:00,361 Speaker 4: and what your highs and your lowers. 787 00:38:00,081 --> 00:38:03,601 Speaker 5: Of that three So the funniest thing is. I actually 788 00:38:03,761 --> 00:38:08,121 Speaker 5: tried to start the business being a normal nutritionalist even 789 00:38:08,161 --> 00:38:10,121 Speaker 5: though I was carnival myself. 790 00:38:10,841 --> 00:38:12,281 Speaker 1: I thought people want just. 791 00:38:12,281 --> 00:38:14,921 Speaker 5: A normal training program and they just want a normal 792 00:38:15,281 --> 00:38:19,361 Speaker 5: food pyramid diet and count your calories and just I 793 00:38:19,401 --> 00:38:21,441 Speaker 5: was trying to blend in with everyone. 794 00:38:21,921 --> 00:38:24,121 Speaker 1: It didn't get me anywhere. It wasn't really getting traction 795 00:38:24,241 --> 00:38:24,641 Speaker 1: or nothing. 796 00:38:24,921 --> 00:38:26,481 Speaker 5: And then that's when I was just like, you know what, 797 00:38:26,761 --> 00:38:29,321 Speaker 5: be true to me, because when I'm making my content, 798 00:38:29,481 --> 00:38:32,041 Speaker 5: I'm not true. I don't have the passion and the 799 00:38:32,081 --> 00:38:34,801 Speaker 5: meaning behind it because it's not me, it's not what 800 00:38:34,961 --> 00:38:38,801 Speaker 5: I'm doing. So I just flipped the switch and started 801 00:38:38,841 --> 00:38:40,561 Speaker 5: just producing carnival content. 802 00:38:40,801 --> 00:38:42,721 Speaker 1: And obviously that gained a lot of traction. 803 00:38:43,801 --> 00:38:45,601 Speaker 4: You know, you have a lot of people's like attack 804 00:38:45,681 --> 00:38:47,721 Speaker 4: you because this is also a really good point too 805 00:38:47,761 --> 00:38:50,201 Speaker 4: about not giving up and standing by your guns. 806 00:38:50,921 --> 00:38:53,041 Speaker 1: I haven't had like many. Obviously. 807 00:38:53,161 --> 00:38:56,001 Speaker 5: I get a few comments here and there that are 808 00:38:56,041 --> 00:38:58,001 Speaker 5: you know, vegans or vegetarians. 809 00:38:58,961 --> 00:39:00,801 Speaker 1: The vegans I understand. 810 00:39:01,081 --> 00:39:03,041 Speaker 5: I don't put it on them because I'm like you 811 00:39:03,161 --> 00:39:06,041 Speaker 5: generally want to just you know, be loving and caring 812 00:39:06,041 --> 00:39:09,641 Speaker 5: for animals and stuff. I get it, but also understanding 813 00:39:09,721 --> 00:39:12,241 Speaker 5: you know the way the world works and evolution of 814 00:39:12,561 --> 00:39:15,201 Speaker 5: the simple fact that you know, I'm not killing every 815 00:39:15,241 --> 00:39:17,481 Speaker 5: single one. It is a bit make them extinct, do 816 00:39:17,481 --> 00:39:19,121 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? So I understand what they're 817 00:39:19,121 --> 00:39:22,201 Speaker 5: trying to do and their believe in. Then I'll just 818 00:39:22,241 --> 00:39:25,321 Speaker 5: get vegetarians that are like, oh, you need fucking fruit 819 00:39:25,401 --> 00:39:27,481 Speaker 5: and veggies and all these shit. But I just I 820 00:39:27,641 --> 00:39:31,641 Speaker 5: just leave it. I don't get much hate, bro, because, 821 00:39:31,841 --> 00:39:34,841 Speaker 5: like I say, I might get a normal nutrition coach 822 00:39:34,961 --> 00:39:39,161 Speaker 5: trying to blast me or something, but the first thing 823 00:39:39,201 --> 00:39:41,161 Speaker 5: I say to him, I just say, Oh, what's the goal? 824 00:39:41,401 --> 00:39:44,001 Speaker 5: What's your goal as a nutritionist? Your goal is to 825 00:39:44,041 --> 00:39:46,561 Speaker 5: help someone you know, get that one percent better, whether 826 00:39:46,601 --> 00:39:49,361 Speaker 5: it's lose weight, get fit up. I said, I'm the 827 00:39:49,401 --> 00:39:51,641 Speaker 5: exact same, I just do it have a different method. 828 00:39:52,121 --> 00:39:53,961 Speaker 5: So why should we fight each other when we had 829 00:39:53,961 --> 00:39:55,561 Speaker 5: the same goal to help someone else? 830 00:39:56,721 --> 00:39:57,241 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I. 831 00:39:57,281 --> 00:39:59,761 Speaker 4: Look, I mean the point of me asking that question, 832 00:39:59,841 --> 00:40:02,041 Speaker 4: I guess, is to show that you know, you. 833 00:40:02,081 --> 00:40:03,481 Speaker 1: Stand by what you believe in. 834 00:40:04,121 --> 00:40:06,601 Speaker 4: And for anybody out there that finds it hard and 835 00:40:06,641 --> 00:40:09,121 Speaker 4: which doesn't matter what you do. You know, I put 836 00:40:09,121 --> 00:40:12,641 Speaker 4: a post up this week, You're going to offend somebody. 837 00:40:12,361 --> 00:40:13,441 Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't. 838 00:40:13,201 --> 00:40:17,681 Speaker 4: Matter whether you're being authentic, whether you're telling a funny joke, 839 00:40:17,761 --> 00:40:21,041 Speaker 4: whether you're actually trying to give someone some information that 840 00:40:21,041 --> 00:40:23,921 Speaker 4: could be valuable in reference to their health and wellness. 841 00:40:24,481 --> 00:40:26,641 Speaker 4: You're always going to have somebody there try and pull 842 00:40:26,681 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 4: you apart and tell you what a tack cared you are, 843 00:40:28,681 --> 00:40:31,321 Speaker 4: or how wrong you are or And it's hard for 844 00:40:31,361 --> 00:40:34,441 Speaker 4: people because it takes thick shoulders to be able to 845 00:40:35,361 --> 00:40:37,761 Speaker 4: just shrug that off and move forward and stick with 846 00:40:37,801 --> 00:40:41,401 Speaker 4: that belief. I think the relevance of you know, people 847 00:40:41,441 --> 00:40:44,801 Speaker 4: that come on here as guests is that we all 848 00:40:44,801 --> 00:40:48,881 Speaker 4: have been judged. You know here you are, You're successful 849 00:40:48,881 --> 00:40:51,961 Speaker 4: at what you're doing, you found your path, you're really 850 00:40:52,081 --> 00:40:54,561 Speaker 4: enjoying it, and you're making a difference in people's lives. 851 00:40:55,041 --> 00:40:57,081 Speaker 4: And look, to be honest with you, I'm not here 852 00:40:57,121 --> 00:41:00,281 Speaker 4: to promote your business as in you know, a carnival 853 00:41:00,401 --> 00:41:02,641 Speaker 4: or a non cannibal. That's nothing to do with you know, 854 00:41:02,721 --> 00:41:05,321 Speaker 4: wanting you on the here. The point of you being 855 00:41:05,401 --> 00:41:09,321 Speaker 4: here is to be able to give people inspiration. Because 856 00:41:09,321 --> 00:41:13,361 Speaker 4: I believe that you are inspiring people through your path 857 00:41:13,641 --> 00:41:16,441 Speaker 4: and your belief in your journey and that's what makes 858 00:41:17,081 --> 00:41:20,641 Speaker 4: me sort of interested in going, Wow, that guy's doing 859 00:41:20,681 --> 00:41:22,241 Speaker 4: really really good, and kudos to you. 860 00:41:22,241 --> 00:41:22,801 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 861 00:41:23,801 --> 00:41:25,921 Speaker 4: No, no, I do, And I'm up for anybody that's 862 00:41:25,921 --> 00:41:27,201 Speaker 4: willing to sort of get out there and. 863 00:41:27,161 --> 00:41:27,641 Speaker 1: Have a crack. 864 00:41:27,681 --> 00:41:30,001 Speaker 4: But it is hard, and people are going to sit 865 00:41:30,041 --> 00:41:31,921 Speaker 4: there and be argument here and people are going to 866 00:41:31,961 --> 00:41:34,481 Speaker 4: pull you apart, and it takes. 867 00:41:34,481 --> 00:41:37,961 Speaker 5: It's toll it it does, you know me, you know, 868 00:41:38,281 --> 00:41:41,761 Speaker 5: tall poppy syndrome. It's not so much, you know, do 869 00:41:41,841 --> 00:41:45,401 Speaker 5: I get hate? But I think I definitely notice just 870 00:41:45,641 --> 00:41:49,161 Speaker 5: the people on your social media stop liking your stuff. 871 00:41:49,401 --> 00:41:51,921 Speaker 5: They still follow you, they don't comment, but they still 872 00:41:51,921 --> 00:41:55,601 Speaker 5: follow your where they used to, and just that itself, 873 00:41:55,681 --> 00:41:58,681 Speaker 5: you know, it is not hate, but it's almost showing 874 00:41:58,721 --> 00:42:01,721 Speaker 5: you like, well, almost like I don't support you, but. 875 00:42:01,681 --> 00:42:03,521 Speaker 1: I'll just sit back on the fans, you know what 876 00:42:03,561 --> 00:42:03,881 Speaker 1: I mean. 877 00:42:04,761 --> 00:42:07,761 Speaker 5: What I try and do it with that situation is 878 00:42:08,681 --> 00:42:12,241 Speaker 5: I try to uplift other people in business, you know, 879 00:42:12,761 --> 00:42:16,681 Speaker 5: because we're all here trying to help people get better. 880 00:42:16,681 --> 00:42:19,321 Speaker 1: Make a living. So while we are trying to chop everyone. 881 00:42:19,001 --> 00:42:21,401 Speaker 4: Down, give me a couple of points of key points 882 00:42:21,401 --> 00:42:25,041 Speaker 4: for you in business that gives you that daily win, 883 00:42:25,321 --> 00:42:27,881 Speaker 4: even if it's a little one. You know, for somebody 884 00:42:27,921 --> 00:42:30,641 Speaker 4: out there that's wanting to believe in what they've gotten 885 00:42:30,841 --> 00:42:33,841 Speaker 4: in a product or themselves and what they want to achieve, 886 00:42:34,521 --> 00:42:37,041 Speaker 4: what would be, you know, some pointers that you would 887 00:42:37,041 --> 00:42:40,241 Speaker 4: be suggesting to them that would give them an opportunity 888 00:42:40,281 --> 00:42:42,001 Speaker 4: to become successful. 889 00:42:41,401 --> 00:42:43,761 Speaker 1: In what they believe in and what they truly want 890 00:42:43,761 --> 00:42:44,041 Speaker 1: to do. 891 00:42:44,441 --> 00:42:49,081 Speaker 5: It would definitely be understanding your purpose, your reason, your 892 00:42:49,121 --> 00:42:52,241 Speaker 5: why and your doing this and absolutely commit to it. 893 00:42:52,401 --> 00:42:56,081 Speaker 5: Make sure your purpose, your reason, and your why it 894 00:42:56,241 --> 00:42:59,481 Speaker 5: is like super powerful, okay, because that's what's going to 895 00:42:59,561 --> 00:43:01,841 Speaker 5: drive you on those shit days. 896 00:43:01,881 --> 00:43:04,361 Speaker 1: Your reason why you're doing this. 897 00:43:04,561 --> 00:43:10,001 Speaker 5: The messaging behind your business, Okay, that's going to mean everything, 898 00:43:10,041 --> 00:43:12,921 Speaker 5: and it's going to be everything you know, authentic Okay, 899 00:43:13,481 --> 00:43:16,121 Speaker 5: it's not going to make you drift apart. It's going 900 00:43:16,201 --> 00:43:18,721 Speaker 5: to keep you on the truck. The other things would 901 00:43:18,721 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 5: be is being consistent at the end of the day, 902 00:43:22,801 --> 00:43:26,121 Speaker 5: whether you're great at something or you're just okay or 903 00:43:26,121 --> 00:43:26,721 Speaker 5: you're just starting. 904 00:43:27,121 --> 00:43:29,881 Speaker 1: The consistency is what makes the difference. 905 00:43:30,521 --> 00:43:34,561 Speaker 5: Someone can have a super amazing product and have all 906 00:43:34,601 --> 00:43:37,281 Speaker 5: the plans and everything written out and all the skills, 907 00:43:37,321 --> 00:43:41,841 Speaker 5: but not be consistent, You're going to fail. Consistency wins 908 00:43:41,961 --> 00:43:46,681 Speaker 5: no matter what. So working on your business, on your 909 00:43:46,721 --> 00:43:50,281 Speaker 5: goals daily, that's a fucking win. As long as you 910 00:43:50,321 --> 00:43:52,521 Speaker 5: can tick that box sock every day and go, I've 911 00:43:52,561 --> 00:43:55,561 Speaker 5: done something to work towards my goals or towards my 912 00:43:55,641 --> 00:43:56,601 Speaker 5: business every day. 913 00:43:56,721 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: Fuck, that's a win. 914 00:43:57,721 --> 00:44:01,401 Speaker 5: And doing that consistently is going to compound over time, 915 00:44:01,641 --> 00:44:03,881 Speaker 5: and I promise you you'll be successful. 916 00:44:05,241 --> 00:44:07,961 Speaker 4: Chat the other day just before we've sort of decided 917 00:44:08,001 --> 00:44:09,881 Speaker 4: that we're going to go ahead with this podcast, and 918 00:44:10,041 --> 00:44:12,721 Speaker 4: one point of our conversation is something I'd like to share, 919 00:44:13,361 --> 00:44:17,881 Speaker 4: and that was the fact of the mentality of the streets. 920 00:44:18,441 --> 00:44:21,441 Speaker 1: You know, that hustle, that grind. Okay, I don't want to. 921 00:44:21,441 --> 00:44:23,921 Speaker 4: Sort of trigger anybody here that may be listening, but 922 00:44:24,361 --> 00:44:28,121 Speaker 4: for anybody that's been involved or around I guess distribution 923 00:44:28,321 --> 00:44:31,601 Speaker 4: of narcotic since you will, it's a process and it's 924 00:44:31,601 --> 00:44:36,081 Speaker 4: a thought pattern. It's there's so much involved to getting 925 00:44:36,721 --> 00:44:40,641 Speaker 4: the money in. It's incredible the minds of some people. Now, 926 00:44:41,401 --> 00:44:46,001 Speaker 4: people can be amazing in that criminal mindset. What we 927 00:44:46,081 --> 00:44:49,481 Speaker 4: discussed was taking that criminal mindset and putting that into 928 00:44:49,921 --> 00:44:54,121 Speaker 4: a legitimacy, bringing out the best version of yourself. You 929 00:44:54,201 --> 00:44:57,121 Speaker 4: could be the best dealer on the street, you know 930 00:44:57,201 --> 00:44:59,321 Speaker 4: what I mean. But that tells me you could be 931 00:44:59,361 --> 00:45:02,921 Speaker 4: the best entrepreneur in believing in whatever it is that 932 00:45:02,961 --> 00:45:06,001 Speaker 4: you feel is going to be successfu and chasing that 933 00:45:06,121 --> 00:45:10,161 Speaker 4: dream and that vision and being everything. Because when you 934 00:45:10,201 --> 00:45:13,641 Speaker 4: break it all down, I personally think that having a 935 00:45:13,721 --> 00:45:16,441 Speaker 4: hustle behind you, and for anybody out there that's you know, 936 00:45:16,921 --> 00:45:19,321 Speaker 4: understands this will get where I'm coming from. For you 937 00:45:19,441 --> 00:45:21,761 Speaker 4: to have that mindset, that hustle, you know, to be 938 00:45:21,761 --> 00:45:27,641 Speaker 4: able to coordinate logistics, finances, weights, so we're talking mathematics, 939 00:45:28,121 --> 00:45:29,881 Speaker 4: all the things that we say, oh I can't do that, 940 00:45:30,041 --> 00:45:30,761 Speaker 4: that's too hard. 941 00:45:31,561 --> 00:45:33,841 Speaker 1: You're doing it. So why not legitimize it? 942 00:45:33,921 --> 00:45:35,841 Speaker 4: Why not put it into something that's you know, a 943 00:45:35,881 --> 00:45:39,041 Speaker 4: genuine passion or a belief that you're going to gain 944 00:45:39,161 --> 00:45:42,641 Speaker 4: something that is really really constructive. 945 00:45:42,161 --> 00:45:45,441 Speaker 5: In your life. Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. Not only 946 00:45:45,601 --> 00:45:47,681 Speaker 5: just being in the streets too. Some of these people 947 00:45:47,721 --> 00:45:51,801 Speaker 5: with addicted to drugs, You have an addiction mentality, So 948 00:45:52,281 --> 00:45:56,201 Speaker 5: fucking put it to work. Be addicted, to go on 949 00:45:56,281 --> 00:45:58,761 Speaker 5: to the gym, be addicted to being the best to 950 00:45:58,841 --> 00:46:02,641 Speaker 5: you be addicted to a business without being consistent. You 951 00:46:02,761 --> 00:46:05,721 Speaker 5: can use, you know, what you thought was your weakness 952 00:46:05,841 --> 00:46:08,841 Speaker 5: or your struggle. You can flip that into being the 953 00:46:08,881 --> 00:46:12,481 Speaker 5: best thing in your toolbox to work for you. And 954 00:46:12,681 --> 00:46:14,801 Speaker 5: that's you know, basical little I don't I use that 955 00:46:15,161 --> 00:46:19,241 Speaker 5: addiction mentality and flipped it, and now I'm just fucking 956 00:46:19,281 --> 00:46:22,801 Speaker 5: addicted to health, nutrition and the business. 957 00:46:23,081 --> 00:46:25,361 Speaker 1: So I mean, well, hang on a sec. You're not 958 00:46:25,361 --> 00:46:27,121 Speaker 1: allowed to swap one addiction out for another. 959 00:46:27,161 --> 00:46:34,281 Speaker 5: Apparently, Oh if only they knew how addiction worked. 960 00:46:34,321 --> 00:46:38,281 Speaker 4: Hey, well, it's like I refer back to my real 961 00:46:38,321 --> 00:46:38,961 Speaker 4: the other day. 962 00:46:38,841 --> 00:46:41,401 Speaker 6: You know what I mean, Like it had seventy thousand 963 00:46:41,401 --> 00:46:44,121 Speaker 6: people viewed or whatever, and you know, there was a 964 00:46:44,161 --> 00:46:47,561 Speaker 6: few fucking haters that come across it, like, oh that's insensitive, 965 00:46:47,561 --> 00:46:50,841 Speaker 6: blah blah blah blah, fuck whatever, mate, Like, look. 966 00:46:50,641 --> 00:46:51,601 Speaker 1: At it for what it is. 967 00:46:51,721 --> 00:46:54,721 Speaker 4: You know, Like everybody out there right now has the 968 00:46:54,801 --> 00:46:57,601 Speaker 4: talent to do something great. Not all of us have 969 00:46:57,841 --> 00:47:01,241 Speaker 4: the skill set, all the support networks around us to 970 00:47:01,281 --> 00:47:02,921 Speaker 4: be able to do it. I know I didn't, and 971 00:47:02,961 --> 00:47:06,481 Speaker 4: I still don't. Every day's a grind learning. Obviously, you've 972 00:47:06,921 --> 00:47:09,921 Speaker 4: had to educate yourself. Like you've said, many many other 973 00:47:10,001 --> 00:47:12,601 Speaker 4: guests have been in the same boat. But you know, 974 00:47:12,721 --> 00:47:14,801 Speaker 4: like I sit back sometimes I think, fuck, when's my 975 00:47:14,881 --> 00:47:15,681 Speaker 4: chance going to come? 976 00:47:16,321 --> 00:47:17,961 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like, I'm working hard, 977 00:47:18,001 --> 00:47:19,801 Speaker 1: I'm grinding. I like even with my business. 978 00:47:19,801 --> 00:47:23,001 Speaker 4: You know, I went away from taking away each week 979 00:47:23,081 --> 00:47:24,761 Speaker 4: to now being a business owner. 980 00:47:25,041 --> 00:47:26,321 Speaker 1: And it starts great. 981 00:47:26,441 --> 00:47:28,041 Speaker 4: You you build up, and then all of a sudden 982 00:47:28,041 --> 00:47:30,281 Speaker 4: it just plateaus and you get a weather pattern that 983 00:47:30,361 --> 00:47:32,281 Speaker 4: comes through and takes out your work. 984 00:47:32,561 --> 00:47:33,481 Speaker 1: You know, So what do you do? 985 00:47:33,561 --> 00:47:34,841 Speaker 4: And I'm like, how am I going to pay for 986 00:47:34,881 --> 00:47:36,441 Speaker 4: the bills this week? How am I going to provide 987 00:47:36,441 --> 00:47:38,761 Speaker 4: for my kids? You've got to find that mentality, that 988 00:47:38,921 --> 00:47:41,121 Speaker 4: hustle mentality. And I'm not talking about going out and 989 00:47:41,121 --> 00:47:44,561 Speaker 4: finding another care or some bags to sell. 990 00:47:45,041 --> 00:47:46,921 Speaker 1: I'm talking about legitimately, you just. 991 00:47:46,841 --> 00:47:48,761 Speaker 4: Say, okay, well, what can I do to switch it 992 00:47:48,841 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 4: up to try and make ends meet? 993 00:47:51,241 --> 00:47:51,401 Speaker 3: Now? 994 00:47:51,441 --> 00:47:53,161 Speaker 4: It might not be what you used to for me. 995 00:47:53,561 --> 00:47:55,521 Speaker 4: I start ringing all the places I used to work 996 00:47:55,561 --> 00:47:57,601 Speaker 4: for where I drove semis. It was something that I'm 997 00:47:57,601 --> 00:48:00,841 Speaker 4: good at and I left always on a good note. 998 00:48:01,001 --> 00:48:03,481 Speaker 4: And luckily there might be a day it might be 999 00:48:03,481 --> 00:48:06,201 Speaker 4: two days, but in that two days, it will pay 1000 00:48:06,241 --> 00:48:07,761 Speaker 4: for my bills. You know, it'll pay for the rent, 1001 00:48:07,921 --> 00:48:09,921 Speaker 4: so to speak. So for me, as long as the 1002 00:48:10,001 --> 00:48:12,241 Speaker 4: roofs over our head for that week, I can live 1003 00:48:12,281 --> 00:48:14,161 Speaker 4: to fight another week. There'll be food on the table. 1004 00:48:14,161 --> 00:48:17,081 Speaker 4: We'll always find food. You know, rice is not that expensive. 1005 00:48:17,081 --> 00:48:19,481 Speaker 4: And you know you can always get down your community 1006 00:48:19,521 --> 00:48:22,521 Speaker 4: pantry and get help. So, Ivy, if people wanted to 1007 00:48:22,561 --> 00:48:26,321 Speaker 4: reach out to you and seek your advice, your help, 1008 00:48:26,481 --> 00:48:27,441 Speaker 4: how do we find you? 1009 00:48:27,801 --> 00:48:32,681 Speaker 5: And yeah, so you can obviously find me Facebook and Instagram, 1010 00:48:32,801 --> 00:48:37,161 Speaker 5: Ivy Party. There's enough social content on there to educate 1011 00:48:37,561 --> 00:48:41,601 Speaker 5: people whatever level there are, to help anyone really, So 1012 00:48:42,121 --> 00:48:45,841 Speaker 5: that's not that the pages about education and get people 1013 00:48:46,801 --> 00:48:49,561 Speaker 5: that knowledge, you know, point them in the right direction. 1014 00:48:50,921 --> 00:48:53,121 Speaker 1: So it is, you know, as I was saying in 1015 00:48:53,201 --> 00:48:56,681 Speaker 1: the beginning of the podcast, a health and wellness platform, 1016 00:48:56,721 --> 00:49:00,961 Speaker 1: that it's not just specifically around dietary it's about everyday 1017 00:49:00,961 --> 00:49:03,241 Speaker 1: living and how to be the best you can be. 1018 00:49:03,881 --> 00:49:04,921 Speaker 1: And I really like that. 1019 00:49:05,321 --> 00:49:07,521 Speaker 4: And you know, once again, I want to commend you 1020 00:49:07,561 --> 00:49:10,761 Speaker 4: on that because I think that you know, using lift experience, 1021 00:49:11,201 --> 00:49:14,721 Speaker 4: educating yourself and then being able to then deliver that 1022 00:49:15,081 --> 00:49:19,801 Speaker 4: to people who need that help and assistance is so valuable. Like, 1023 00:49:19,881 --> 00:49:21,841 Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, we need all the clinicians in 1024 00:49:21,881 --> 00:49:24,801 Speaker 4: the world and all these wonderful people coming out of 1025 00:49:24,881 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 4: university with their textbook studies. But I go on about 1026 00:49:27,521 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 4: it week after week after week because I just get 1027 00:49:29,441 --> 00:49:32,921 Speaker 4: so inspired by each guest that lived experience is so powerful. 1028 00:49:33,521 --> 00:49:35,841 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It's our story, bro. 1029 00:49:36,081 --> 00:49:39,281 Speaker 5: You know, like, your your story is what would have 1030 00:49:39,441 --> 00:49:43,081 Speaker 5: started this, Bro. It started your podcast, it started your clothes, bro, 1031 00:49:43,321 --> 00:49:47,721 Speaker 5: your journey, your story is what's the new product of 1032 00:49:48,321 --> 00:49:51,401 Speaker 5: what's happened your experience, and look at what you produced them. 1033 00:49:51,441 --> 00:49:51,561 Speaker 3: Bro. 1034 00:49:51,681 --> 00:49:54,161 Speaker 5: You host some podcasts, You're having people on here to 1035 00:49:54,321 --> 00:49:57,881 Speaker 5: share their story. And I've always said it only ever 1036 00:49:58,001 --> 00:50:01,361 Speaker 5: takes one person to hear your story for you to 1037 00:50:01,441 --> 00:50:04,881 Speaker 5: change someone's life. And you're going to commend yourself on 1038 00:50:04,921 --> 00:50:08,881 Speaker 5: that too, for you know, you're holding this space for 1039 00:50:09,121 --> 00:50:12,801 Speaker 5: other people and for listeners to tap in if they 1040 00:50:12,841 --> 00:50:14,041 Speaker 5: need help and stuff like that. 1041 00:50:14,121 --> 00:50:16,521 Speaker 1: So good on you, bro, You're doing a good thing, 1042 00:50:17,121 --> 00:50:18,201 Speaker 1: and I'd appreciate that. 1043 00:50:18,321 --> 00:50:20,881 Speaker 4: I Mean, sometimes it's hard to look in the mirror 1044 00:50:20,881 --> 00:50:22,801 Speaker 4: and pack yourself on the back and it's seldom that 1045 00:50:22,801 --> 00:50:25,441 Speaker 4: we do do it, but you know we did speak 1046 00:50:25,481 --> 00:50:28,161 Speaker 4: earlier about that, you know, looking in the mirror and 1047 00:50:28,201 --> 00:50:30,361 Speaker 4: being proud of who you are and what you've achieved. 1048 00:50:30,361 --> 00:50:33,241 Speaker 4: And I guess you know, do we always sit back 1049 00:50:33,481 --> 00:50:36,721 Speaker 4: and take those moments where we probably should have a 1050 00:50:36,761 --> 00:50:38,881 Speaker 4: minute and just say, hey, you're doing all right, mate? 1051 00:50:38,921 --> 00:50:41,561 Speaker 4: You know, like the shit going on around you you 1052 00:50:41,601 --> 00:50:44,281 Speaker 4: can't control, but hey, you could be in such a 1053 00:50:44,401 --> 00:50:46,881 Speaker 4: worse position, and you have been in a worse position, 1054 00:50:46,921 --> 00:50:51,321 Speaker 4: and you've made decisions because of situations that weren't the 1055 00:50:51,321 --> 00:50:54,401 Speaker 4: best decisions which in turn cost you dearly, you know, 1056 00:50:54,681 --> 00:50:58,841 Speaker 4: your time, your life basically, you know, and it affects 1057 00:50:58,921 --> 00:51:02,561 Speaker 4: those around you. So you know, my purpose, and I 1058 00:51:02,601 --> 00:51:05,801 Speaker 4: truly appreciate your kind words, is to just being able 1059 00:51:05,841 --> 00:51:09,881 Speaker 4: to give people hope, give people a platform and knowledge 1060 00:51:09,921 --> 00:51:13,841 Speaker 4: through people like yourself, you know, like over five million downloads. 1061 00:51:14,081 --> 00:51:17,041 Speaker 1: I'm proud of it. I say it often, like fuck, 1062 00:51:17,081 --> 00:51:17,721 Speaker 1: who's had that? 1063 00:51:17,921 --> 00:51:20,801 Speaker 4: Like to even be in podcasting for any longer than 1064 00:51:20,841 --> 00:51:25,521 Speaker 4: twelve months, let alone four years and seventeen seasons is 1065 00:51:26,561 --> 00:51:27,321 Speaker 4: a life sentence. 1066 00:51:27,401 --> 00:51:28,921 Speaker 1: It's a lifetime, you know what I mean? 1067 00:51:30,401 --> 00:51:33,761 Speaker 4: That's right, And it all started originally with my story, 1068 00:51:33,801 --> 00:51:35,641 Speaker 4: which I never in a million years, you know, I 1069 00:51:35,681 --> 00:51:38,321 Speaker 4: put my story out there to be able to hopefully 1070 00:51:38,401 --> 00:51:41,641 Speaker 4: help one person, and not to sound like a dickhead, 1071 00:51:41,681 --> 00:51:44,521 Speaker 4: but I do know that it's helped many more than 1072 00:51:44,601 --> 00:51:45,401 Speaker 4: just the one person. 1073 00:51:45,841 --> 00:51:48,681 Speaker 1: I'm found and grateful. I am grateful that it's been 1074 00:51:48,721 --> 00:51:51,921 Speaker 1: able to have that impact, and you know, successfully we're 1075 00:51:51,961 --> 00:51:55,841 Speaker 1: still here sharing people's stories and it's something that I 1076 00:51:55,921 --> 00:51:58,521 Speaker 1: thrive on and as I said, therapeutic for me, and 1077 00:51:58,561 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: I hope that everybody out there continues to take something great, 1078 00:52:02,081 --> 00:52:04,241 Speaker 1: especially from our toolboxes that we like to leave at 1079 00:52:04,241 --> 00:52:07,281 Speaker 1: the end of the season. Speaking of which I know 1080 00:52:07,401 --> 00:52:08,401 Speaker 1: you did speak of. 1081 00:52:08,601 --> 00:52:12,561 Speaker 4: Some points before, but what are two really powerful things 1082 00:52:12,601 --> 00:52:15,241 Speaker 4: that have helped you and continue to help you grow 1083 00:52:15,561 --> 00:52:18,121 Speaker 4: that you would give as advice to somebody out there 1084 00:52:18,161 --> 00:52:20,841 Speaker 4: who's listening today that's a little bit sort of hesitant, 1085 00:52:20,841 --> 00:52:23,241 Speaker 4: I guess about where to go and how to go 1086 00:52:23,321 --> 00:52:23,761 Speaker 4: about it. 1087 00:52:24,721 --> 00:52:31,281 Speaker 5: The two would be educating yourself and consistency in whatever 1088 00:52:31,361 --> 00:52:34,761 Speaker 5: field it is, whatever that you want to do. If 1089 00:52:34,801 --> 00:52:39,721 Speaker 5: you learn and understand that the education the knowledge behind 1090 00:52:39,761 --> 00:52:43,041 Speaker 5: what you want to do, and then implement it with consistency, 1091 00:52:43,841 --> 00:52:48,281 Speaker 5: you're going to win. It sounds that simple, but like 1092 00:52:48,321 --> 00:52:50,921 Speaker 5: I said, you can have the best products and people 1093 00:52:51,361 --> 00:52:56,201 Speaker 5: are not consistent and they fail. But being consistent is 1094 00:52:56,241 --> 00:52:59,001 Speaker 5: one of the biggest things. It's the game changer. It's 1095 00:52:59,001 --> 00:53:03,881 Speaker 5: what's different people from giving up and being successful is 1096 00:53:04,001 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 5: the consistency of just. 1097 00:53:05,401 --> 00:53:07,561 Speaker 1: Doing it over and over and over again. 1098 00:53:08,081 --> 00:53:11,121 Speaker 5: But then also having you know some knowledge and things 1099 00:53:11,121 --> 00:53:14,321 Speaker 5: behind whatever you want to do is it's going to 1100 00:53:14,321 --> 00:53:16,081 Speaker 5: get you where you want to go. Then once you 1101 00:53:16,121 --> 00:53:19,281 Speaker 5: get to that place, obviously you can grow more. But 1102 00:53:19,441 --> 00:53:21,441 Speaker 5: they're the two biggest things, I would say. 1103 00:53:22,721 --> 00:53:25,801 Speaker 4: Very powerful. Education is the key to success. They've always 1104 00:53:25,881 --> 00:53:28,001 Speaker 4: said that. For me, I need to learn to read 1105 00:53:28,001 --> 00:53:30,081 Speaker 4: a lot more. Not that I can't read. I just 1106 00:53:30,801 --> 00:53:33,241 Speaker 4: struggle to sit still enough and focus. 1107 00:53:33,321 --> 00:53:37,281 Speaker 1: I end up reading probably ten times over the same paragraph, 1108 00:53:38,441 --> 00:53:39,081 Speaker 1: and I just think. 1109 00:53:39,001 --> 00:53:40,521 Speaker 4: I'm going to fuck it and I'll throw the book. 1110 00:53:40,561 --> 00:53:42,881 Speaker 4: But they're things I've got to learn. Even at forty 1111 00:53:42,921 --> 00:53:44,841 Speaker 4: nine years of age, I've still got to try and 1112 00:53:45,441 --> 00:53:48,641 Speaker 4: find better ways, you know, because you never stopped learning. 1113 00:53:48,681 --> 00:53:50,921 Speaker 4: I think the moment you think that you're successful and 1114 00:53:51,001 --> 00:53:53,361 Speaker 4: that you have made it is the moment you're going 1115 00:53:53,401 --> 00:53:53,801 Speaker 4: to fall. 1116 00:53:54,281 --> 00:53:57,801 Speaker 5: Yeah, because then you would technically being in the comfort zone, 1117 00:53:57,881 --> 00:54:00,001 Speaker 5: and we both know when you're in the comfenza, you know, 1118 00:54:00,081 --> 00:54:01,641 Speaker 5: that's where fucking shit goes wrong. 1119 00:54:02,921 --> 00:54:04,561 Speaker 4: Well, I just want to say to you, mate, I 1120 00:54:04,801 --> 00:54:08,121 Speaker 4: really appreciate you being here today and reaching out. I 1121 00:54:08,161 --> 00:54:13,121 Speaker 4: think that initial conversation bringing us here today was awesome 1122 00:54:13,241 --> 00:54:15,961 Speaker 4: and that just goes to show you turning up and 1123 00:54:15,961 --> 00:54:19,401 Speaker 4: being consistent and confident in yourself about what you believe 1124 00:54:19,441 --> 00:54:22,081 Speaker 4: in and who you are and the successes that you're having. 1125 00:54:22,361 --> 00:54:24,681 Speaker 4: So I really want to say to you, mate, I 1126 00:54:24,961 --> 00:54:25,841 Speaker 4: wish you nothing but. 1127 00:54:25,881 --> 00:54:28,321 Speaker 1: The success off the back of all your hard work, 1128 00:54:28,361 --> 00:54:31,161 Speaker 1: and I truly would love to speak and we'll continue 1129 00:54:31,201 --> 00:54:34,161 Speaker 1: to keep in touch. Yeah, we can help help help 1130 00:54:34,241 --> 00:54:37,481 Speaker 1: you to grow your business and promote and network with others. 1131 00:54:37,481 --> 00:54:39,881 Speaker 1: Then please make reach out and we will definitely do 1132 00:54:39,961 --> 00:54:40,521 Speaker 1: that for you. 1133 00:54:40,921 --> 00:54:43,401 Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent, bro, And I appreciate you having 1134 00:54:43,401 --> 00:54:46,681 Speaker 5: me and the conversations that haven't. I definitely think we 1135 00:54:46,721 --> 00:54:51,401 Speaker 5: can still continue to help each other business wise, everything else. 1136 00:54:51,441 --> 00:54:54,241 Speaker 5: So it's really good to connect. And this is what 1137 00:54:54,281 --> 00:54:58,241 Speaker 5: I was talking about. It's very hard to build an 1138 00:54:58,281 --> 00:55:01,041 Speaker 5: empire one man, It's very hard. 1139 00:55:01,681 --> 00:55:04,001 Speaker 1: I love that and one of my sayings. 1140 00:55:04,121 --> 00:55:06,841 Speaker 4: My favorite saying says, no man as an island, And 1141 00:55:06,921 --> 00:55:10,401 Speaker 4: that is exactly why. You know, it's something that once 1142 00:55:10,441 --> 00:55:13,001 Speaker 4: people start to realize it's okay to share and it's 1143 00:55:13,001 --> 00:55:13,921 Speaker 4: okay to network. 1144 00:55:14,361 --> 00:55:17,761 Speaker 1: Yes, people grow so much from being a little bit 1145 00:55:17,761 --> 00:55:20,281 Speaker 1: more open minded. You know, we have this perception that 1146 00:55:20,601 --> 00:55:22,361 Speaker 1: we've got an idea, we've got a vision, we've got 1147 00:55:22,401 --> 00:55:26,121 Speaker 1: a business. Fuck everyone else, that's all my own mind. Hustle, hustle, hustle. 1148 00:55:26,521 --> 00:55:28,641 Speaker 1: It doesn't work like that, people and on. 1149 00:55:28,681 --> 00:55:30,561 Speaker 5: It gets you so far when you do that. Yes, 1150 00:55:30,801 --> 00:55:33,001 Speaker 5: you can do that at the start and get to 1151 00:55:33,041 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 5: a certain level. But for you to grow, you grow 1152 00:55:36,041 --> 00:55:39,481 Speaker 5: your skill set, your knowledge, your wealth, everything else. 1153 00:55:39,801 --> 00:55:40,761 Speaker 1: You need a team. 1154 00:55:41,001 --> 00:55:45,281 Speaker 5: You need other people around you to support what is happening. 1155 00:55:45,681 --> 00:55:50,281 Speaker 5: So networking, sharing knowledge, you know, all those sort of things. 1156 00:55:50,401 --> 00:55:53,921 Speaker 5: You can't build this ginormous fucking empire as a one 1157 00:55:53,961 --> 00:55:54,521 Speaker 5: man team. 1158 00:55:54,961 --> 00:55:56,161 Speaker 1: You will not get them. 1159 00:55:56,201 --> 00:56:00,081 Speaker 5: But you can get there better, stronger and quicker with 1160 00:56:00,161 --> 00:56:01,801 Speaker 5: the team supporting you one hundred percent. 1161 00:56:02,601 --> 00:56:03,281 Speaker 1: Well, there you have it. 1162 00:56:03,321 --> 00:56:07,121 Speaker 4: Guys, I be Sadi who was known as a cocaine 1163 00:56:07,201 --> 00:56:10,881 Speaker 4: supplier who's now leading in the industry that he is 1164 00:56:10,921 --> 00:56:14,201 Speaker 4: so passionate about and believes in. It's been awesome having 1165 00:56:14,241 --> 00:56:16,521 Speaker 4: him on this morning, and it's lovely to be able 1166 00:56:16,561 --> 00:56:18,481 Speaker 4: to share another story. And I really hope that you've 1167 00:56:18,521 --> 00:56:21,761 Speaker 4: been able to take something from today's podcast. Thank you 1168 00:56:21,841 --> 00:56:24,881 Speaker 4: everybody who tunes in weekly, To all you new listeners, 1169 00:56:25,041 --> 00:56:28,481 Speaker 4: remember seventeen seasons, go back to the start. There's hundreds 1170 00:56:28,481 --> 00:56:31,481 Speaker 4: of stories there. I'm constantly getting inboxed about. I want 1171 00:56:31,521 --> 00:56:33,881 Speaker 4: to hear this or have you had that person? There's 1172 00:56:34,121 --> 00:56:36,361 Speaker 4: very very few people that haven't been on the Clink. 1173 00:56:36,601 --> 00:56:36,961 Speaker 1: Ivy. 1174 00:56:37,201 --> 00:56:40,281 Speaker 4: Have a fantastic day, mate. I wish you nothing but greatness, 1175 00:56:40,321 --> 00:56:42,081 Speaker 4: and thank you so much for your time this morning. 1176 00:56:42,121 --> 00:56:43,921 Speaker 4: I do know you're also a busy man and have 1177 00:56:44,001 --> 00:56:47,001 Speaker 4: some things happening around you after this, so your time 1178 00:56:47,121 --> 00:56:48,841 Speaker 4: is valuable and thank you. 1179 00:56:49,281 --> 00:56:51,241 Speaker 1: No, thank you, I really appreciate it. 1180 00:56:51,361 --> 00:56:53,041 Speaker 5: And it was really good chatting to you with you 1181 00:56:53,081 --> 00:56:55,601 Speaker 5: today Bro, and connecting as well. So we've got many 1182 00:56:55,641 --> 00:56:58,921 Speaker 5: more to come, Bro, and well done on the podcast 1183 00:56:59,001 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 5: and on the space for everyone else. 1184 00:57:01,361 --> 00:57:03,641 Speaker 1: Legend Mate, be the best you can be. There you go. 1185 00:57:03,841 --> 00:57:04,961 Speaker 1: That's the Clink motto. 1186 00:57:05,441 --> 00:57:07,801 Speaker 4: Thank you pod Shape, thank you side By Surf, and 1187 00:57:07,881 --> 00:57:10,841 Speaker 4: thank you the listener for the record. 1188 00:57:10,881 --> 00:57:14,081 Speaker 2: I'm done trying to make y'all comfortable for the record. 1189 00:57:14,201 --> 00:57:16,601 Speaker 2: You ain't trying to grow downy stuff for your right 1190 00:57:16,761 --> 00:57:19,881 Speaker 2: for the record. Laugh on me going all the way 1191 00:57:20,041 --> 00:57:22,041 Speaker 2: for the record. Ain't trying to link, no, trying to 1192 00:57:22,081 --> 00:57:23,201 Speaker 2: wait stop all. 1193 00:57:23,361 --> 00:57:29,001 Speaker 3: For the record, for the record, for the for the record, 1194 00:57:29,921 --> 00:57:33,801 Speaker 3: for the record, for the record, for the record. 1195 00:57:45,281 --> 00:57:45,321 Speaker 1: H