WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 4 December

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<v Speaker 1>Late welcome the Late to play well.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond. Coming

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<v Speaker 3>up tonight, Jaguar unveil their latest car design. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>sure many people are going to like it, but I'll

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<v Speaker 3>tell you who's going to love the latest Jaguar BMW,

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<v Speaker 3>Audi Mercedes. They are absolutely going to love because that

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<v Speaker 3>guarantees them more sales.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Plus, when we look at the papers, banks starting to

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<v Speaker 3>introduce forty year mortgages and unions threaten.

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<v Speaker 2>More trouble for Woolworth's in the lead up to Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>All of that coming up shortly, But first of you

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<v Speaker 3>noticed that when it comes to gay pride celebrations in sport,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a massive double standard. When Muslim athletes choose not

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<v Speaker 3>to participate, there's barely a word. In fact, there's often

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<v Speaker 3>respect for their principles, but when Christian athletes boycott such

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<v Speaker 3>sporting events, they are instantly Malaya. Back in twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 3>you might remember seven Manly Siege or Rugby league players

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<v Speaker 3>chose to sit out a game of football rather than

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<v Speaker 3>war a gay pride jersey, and for that they were

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<v Speaker 3>called bigots. They even received death threats. The irony was

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<v Speaker 3>just a couple of months later, an afl W player

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<v Speaker 3>for GWS Giants also chose to sit out a pride

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<v Speaker 3>game because of her Muslim beliefs. Well, the ABC described

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<v Speaker 3>her as an up and coming leader in the Muslim

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<v Speaker 3>community who'd been caught in a difficult situation. Well, this

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<v Speaker 3>played out all over again in the English Premier League

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<v Speaker 3>over the weekend, where they celebrated their LGBTQ Pride Round. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>as part of this celebration, captains of each team were

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<v Speaker 3>required to wear a gay arm band, and this of

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<v Speaker 3>course created problems for religious players. Now, the captain of

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<v Speaker 3>Ipswich is a Muslim born in Egypt, Sam Morsey. He

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<v Speaker 3>chose just not to wear the gay arm band at all,

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<v Speaker 3>and nere a word was said as opposed to the

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<v Speaker 3>captain of Crystal Palace, Mark Gayhu, who was born in

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<v Speaker 3>the Ivory Coast. He's a committed Christian. His father is

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<v Speaker 3>a Christian minister. He decided I'm going to wear the

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<v Speaker 3>gay arm band because I bear no ill will towards

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<v Speaker 3>the LGBTQ community.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do have a higher allegiance.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't share their worldview and so he wrote on

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<v Speaker 3>the armband Jesus loves you. Now, I reckon that's a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good statement for inclusion. What could be more inclusive

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<v Speaker 3>than Jesus loves everybody?

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<v Speaker 1>Who could be.

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<v Speaker 3>Offended by that? Well, as you can imagine, all hell

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<v Speaker 3>broke loose. He was threatened with sanctions, There were suggestions

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<v Speaker 3>he could lose his place on the English team, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's before we talk about his lucrative contracts and sponsorships. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the Football Association argued that they don't allow political or

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<v Speaker 3>religious statements to be made on the pitch, which he's

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<v Speaker 3>the question, what is LGBTQ pride other than a political

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<v Speaker 3>and religious statement. It's political because it demands not just acceptance,

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<v Speaker 3>It demands celebration and adherence to a number of social policies.

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<v Speaker 3>It demands that you support gay marriage. It demands that

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<v Speaker 3>you support drag queens performing for children. It demands that

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<v Speaker 3>you support miners being given puberty blockers to change sex.

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<v Speaker 3>All of those are policy positions. It's political and it's

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<v Speaker 3>also religious because the LGBTQ Pride movement is a worldview.

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<v Speaker 2>It presents a view on life, on reality.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you can change gender, on morality, there should

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<v Speaker 3>be no sexual boundaries, and like any religion, it brooks

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<v Speaker 3>no compromise and will have no gods before it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why no.

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<v Speaker 3>Sporting organization, no corporation, no school, no government should compel

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<v Speaker 3>people to take part in gay pride events. And to

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<v Speaker 3>do so while claiming that you don't allow political and

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<v Speaker 3>religious statements to be made indicates that the Football Association

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<v Speaker 3>in the UK and others like it are either intellectual

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<v Speaker 3>doults or catered. They're just playing cowards who are sucking

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<v Speaker 3>up to organizations they believe have power, which right now

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<v Speaker 3>is the LGBTQ movement.

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<v Speaker 1>Or it could be both, and I suspect it is both.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, honestly, as you laid out at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>the examples from Australia are pretty clear in what happens

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<v Speaker 1>when a Muslim says that they're not part of Pride

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<v Speaker 1>round and when a Christian says they're not part of

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<v Speaker 1>Pride round. And it is exactly the same here. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, Sam Morsey, who's that the captain of Ipswich

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't wear the band at all, and for that

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<v Speaker 1>he incurs no reprimand whatsoever because he has not in

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<v Speaker 1>doing so apparently broken any of the uniform rules. But

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<v Speaker 1>by simply writing Jesus loves you, which you know, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a religious message, which is against the rule,

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<v Speaker 1>but who cares. It's like, it's not an offensive message

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<v Speaker 1>in any way. He's still wearing the armband, so he's

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<v Speaker 1>sending the message that the league has asked him to send.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the same time you could argue that he

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<v Speaker 1>is also saying that, you know, I, as a Christian,

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<v Speaker 1>have no issue with you, and my God has no

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<v Speaker 1>issue with you. God loves all his children. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that is presumably what he's tried to say by writing

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<v Speaker 1>that on his armband. I mean, is that not putting

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<v Speaker 1>out the olive branch from the Christians to the LGBTQ

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<v Speaker 1>community to say, look, we're all humans at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. But no, you get in trouble for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just more proof that politics should not go anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>near sport. I mean ninety nine percent of people. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure there is a one percent out there, but ninety

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of people who watch sport do so because

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<v Speaker 1>it is different to the rest of their lives. It's

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<v Speaker 1>removed from politics, it's removed from your job. It's removed

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<v Speaker 1>from all the other nonsense you have to put up with.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, tomorrow morning, I'm on a plane to Adelaide

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<v Speaker 1>to go and watch the Adelaide Test. It is one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite times of the year. You know why

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<v Speaker 1>because for five days, or hopefully five days, I can

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<v Speaker 1>go and watch men throw leather at a piece of

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<v Speaker 1>willow and I don't have to think about anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>I can drink lots of beers, I can catch up

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<v Speaker 1>with my mates, I can talk about the cricket. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to get caught up in the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. That is what sport is meant to be.

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<v Speaker 1>But increasingly it gets infected by politics. Not because the

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<v Speaker 1>people who watch sport wanted, and not because the people

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<v Speaker 1>who participate in sport wanted, but because the corporate jokers

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<v Speaker 1>who are in charge of the place think they can

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<v Speaker 1>make a buck out of it, because because then they

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<v Speaker 1>sell all the jerseys that have got the Pride flag

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<v Speaker 1>on them, et cetera. C I mean, it is the

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<v Speaker 1>worst kind of corporate virtue signalink that there possibly is.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no way they make that much money off a

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<v Speaker 4>gay Pride jersey, though, And let's keep in mind, this

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<v Speaker 4>isn't even gay Pride months that was due, So why

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<v Speaker 4>are you foisting this on the unsuspected? But jillions of

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<v Speaker 4>people either attending the game, watching the game, or participating

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<v Speaker 4>in the game.

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<v Speaker 5>Once again, the militancy of this movement is just your dropping.

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<v Speaker 4>Can we not go about our daily lives without being

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<v Speaker 4>reminded by a flag flying or aware at Purple Day

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<v Speaker 4>that this is what you're supposed to be supporting. And

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<v Speaker 4>of course it does single out people of the Christian faith,

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<v Speaker 4>never the Muslims weirdly, which is strange because if you

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<v Speaker 4>read the Quran and you read the Bible, one stands

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<v Speaker 4>out as particularly against the LGBTQ community and it ain't Christianity.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is now Taylor's oldest time. Remember back in

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<v Speaker 4>the days when it was like bake my cake for

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<v Speaker 4>a gay wedding, otherwise I'm suing you and sued those

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<v Speaker 4>Christian bakers were. Now it's where at purple otherwise you're

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<v Speaker 4>a bigot and everyone will know that these are for

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<v Speaker 4>school as children.

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<v Speaker 5>That's how young they've got to do this.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, then we've got Christian schools being told no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>you must employ people of the LGBTQ community. Even though

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<v Speaker 4>it goes against your ethos, we're forcing you to this

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<v Speaker 4>is a.

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<v Speaker 5>Matter of human rights. On and on and on it goes.

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<v Speaker 4>Christianity is constantly singled out.

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<v Speaker 5>And here's a perfect example.

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<v Speaker 4>Muslim player, everyone ticks, applauds, doesn't have.

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<v Speaker 5>A problem with it.

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<v Speaker 4>Christian player actually wears the armband but finds a way around.

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<v Speaker 5>It, and everyone's up in arms.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got to wonder what is really behind this agenda,

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<v Speaker 4>because it's not protections.

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<v Speaker 5>This isn't the nineteen sixties.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not championing a downtrodden minority anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>These guys rule the roost and we all know it.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got to point out one more irony in this story,

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<v Speaker 3>and that of course, is that the player's father, who

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<v Speaker 3>immigrated to the UK from the Ivory Coast. He understands

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<v Speaker 3>England better than most Englishmen. He told the media. God

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<v Speaker 3>is everywhere in this country and I know things changed

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<v Speaker 3>because of different beliefs, but it's still a Christian country.

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<v Speaker 3>Now bear in mind, this is an immigrant to the

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<v Speaker 3>UK telling Englishmen about their own country. He says, if

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<v Speaker 3>you look at what the lgbt community, you're doing they're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to impose on others what they believe in. It's

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<v Speaker 3>belief against belief. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone has the right to an opinion. And Caleb, that's

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<v Speaker 3>the UK we used to know. The immigrant gets it,

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<v Speaker 3>just the Englishman don't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's quite often the case because generally you've gone to

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<v Speaker 1>another country because you've seen something better in it than

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<v Speaker 1>the one you've come from. But as to why Christians

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<v Speaker 1>are targeted, it's an obvious Well, obviously Christians are easy prey,

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<v Speaker 1>you might say, because they're a majority in a country

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<v Speaker 1>like the UK, so you know, we can just go

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<v Speaker 1>after them. Who cares about that? But of course, more broadly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about the fact is a hatred of the West,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why the Muslims get a free pass here

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<v Speaker 1>because ultimately the socialists that pushed the this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing don't really actually care about the things they say

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<v Speaker 1>they care about gay rights, etc. They just care about

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<v Speaker 1>pulling apart the supposedly colonial awful roots of these countries,

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<v Speaker 1>and they will do it by any means possible, even

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<v Speaker 1>if that means pandering to the groups that are against

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<v Speaker 1>the groups they say they are. Four But that is

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<v Speaker 1>life in twenty twenty four. Speaking of life in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four and sticking in the UK, the BBC has

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<v Speaker 1>come up with its list of top one hundred women

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty twenty four. And what would a list of

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<v Speaker 1>top one hundred women in twenty twenty four be without

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<v Speaker 1>a biological man? Yes, you knew I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>say it, And here it is again. I know I

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<v Speaker 1>gave Freddie Murcury go last night, but I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>give him another go tonight. Here is.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm girling slightly, man, and going slightly, I mean one.

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<v Speaker 1>Bridget Baptiste is the individual in question, Colombian scientist. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you can see Baptiste there, but makes it

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<v Speaker 1>onto the list of one hundred women. Now, through the

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<v Speaker 1>work that Baptiste has done as a scientist, it's apparently

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<v Speaker 1>been looking into things like how the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>world is transgender like Baptiste. Take for instance that in

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty eighteen Ted talk, was Baptiste that Iss, according

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<v Speaker 1>to The Telegraph, claimed scientists had discovered transsexual palm trees

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<v Speaker 1>and stated that the change of sex and gender has

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<v Speaker 1>been reported regularly in science on this basis. She that is,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the Telegraph argued that it was wise to

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<v Speaker 1>do away with the ideas of naturalness in nature, stating

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<v Speaker 1>there is nothing more queer than nature and for that

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinary work, biological male can now make it onto the

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<v Speaker 1>list of top one hundred women. Now I know I've

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<v Speaker 1>said this before, but I have spent most of my

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<v Speaker 1>life saying that I am not a feminist, and I

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<v Speaker 1>bhore the idea of feminism because you know, it's an

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<v Speaker 1>outdated ideology that harks back to years and years ago, when,

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<v Speaker 1>of course there were legitimate grievances with the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>women had less rights than men, and then we sorted

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<v Speaker 1>all of that out in the latter twentieth century and

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<v Speaker 1>we got to a point where we were all equal.

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<v Speaker 1>But now I'm actually thinking I got to start calling

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<v Speaker 1>myself feminist because we are regressing so far now, like

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<v Speaker 1>literal women are losing rights to men every day of

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<v Speaker 1>the week. Now everything old is new again.

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<v Speaker 2>When I saw that the BBC had produced this list.

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<v Speaker 3>Of one hundred inspiring women and it contained a man,

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<v Speaker 3>I actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Felt relief because it was only one man. I was

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<v Speaker 2>taking a lot more to be on their list.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean, you've got to follow the sad day

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<v Speaker 4>we're congratulating them for that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's only one bloke.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to follow the logic though, I mean, he

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<v Speaker 3>says there's nothing more queer than nature. I would argue

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<v Speaker 3>the BBC are probably a bit more queer than that.

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<v Speaker 3>But the logic is, if nature is queer, then we

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<v Speaker 3>should be queer in solidarity with it. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>a direct result of the rejection of the Christian faith.

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<v Speaker 3>The Christian faith used to teach us. We all used

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<v Speaker 3>to believe it, even if we didn't go to church,

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<v Speaker 3>but we understood we're made in the image of God.

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<v Speaker 3>So if we want to know what we're like or

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<v Speaker 3>what we should be like, you look up. But then

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<v Speaker 3>we've removed God from the horizon. So where do we

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<v Speaker 3>look for cues on how to live our lives?

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<v Speaker 2>Will we look down?

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<v Speaker 3>So you literally get someone saying, hmm, what sort of

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<v Speaker 3>person should I be? Well, I wonder what the palm

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<v Speaker 3>trees are doing, and then follows that, and so this

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<v Speaker 3>is where we have a major problem. Of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>polar bears eat their young, but she's not suggesting we

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<v Speaker 3>follow that. Dogs sniff each other's butts, but no one's

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<v Speaker 3>saying that's how we ought to behave. So it's incredibly selective,

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<v Speaker 3>isn't it, finding, you know, palm trees that are transsexual

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<v Speaker 3>and say, we'll see, that's now.

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<v Speaker 2>How we should behave.

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<v Speaker 3>The other point I would make, Liz is the BBC

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<v Speaker 3>have got a man as well of their most inspiring women.

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<v Speaker 3>The BBC also boast continually about their brilliant fact checkers.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are their fact checkers?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, do they know anything about chromosomes? It's supposed to

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<v Speaker 4>be the one hundred most inspiring women. Well I found

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<v Speaker 4>this very inspiring indeed, but not to do what they

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<v Speaker 4>think they're inspiring people to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Now to the USA, where the writer of.

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<v Speaker 4>That famous song YMCA, which has once again made headlines.

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<v Speaker 4>My goodness, it's pretty much the Trump song nowadays.

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<v Speaker 5>Backed up with a dance and everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone's been doing it, from sports stars on.

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<v Speaker 5>The field to you name it.

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<v Speaker 4>This dance and song has once again gone viral. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>the co writer of the YMCA song, his name's Victor Willis,

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<v Speaker 4>he was one of the original Village people, has taken

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<v Speaker 4>to his social media say when people stop calling this

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<v Speaker 4>thing a gay anthem? It was never supposed to be

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<v Speaker 4>that And as of next year, my wife's going to

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<v Speaker 4>start suing people who say it is.

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<v Speaker 5>A gay anthem. Check out his post.

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<v Speaker 4>He says, to the extent that YMCA is considered a

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<v Speaker 4>gay anthem based on the fact that gays once to

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<v Speaker 4>use certain YMCA for illicit activity.

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<v Speaker 5>The assumption that.

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<v Speaker 4>The song alludes to that is completely misguided. Therefore, since

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<v Speaker 4>I wrote the lyrics, I ought to know what the

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<v Speaker 4>lyrics I wrote is really about. Come January twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 4>my wife will start suing each and every news organization

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<v Speaker 4>that falsely refers to YMCA as being somehow a gay anthem,

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<v Speaker 4>because such a notion is based solely on the song's

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<v Speaker 4>lyrics alluding to illicit activity for which it does not. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>I just found this quite refreshing, because most people, whether

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<v Speaker 4>they're thinking this or not, whether one of their songs

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<v Speaker 4>has become a gay anthem or not, would not come

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<v Speaker 4>out nowadays and say, by the way, just to be clear, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>They just be like, let him have it. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to be called a bigot, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>be sued, I don't want.

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<v Speaker 5>To be called hateful. But this guy is not only

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<v Speaker 5>coming out and being like a hold the phone everybody.

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<v Speaker 5>This was never intended to be that.

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<v Speaker 4>He's saying, my wife's gonna suit you, guys if you

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<v Speaker 4>keep referring to it as such. Although having watched the

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<v Speaker 4>original clip today, I gotta say you do start to

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<v Speaker 4>begin to understand why people might have got that idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Does not need to feel down down, it's just so.

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<v Speaker 4>And yet he said calling it a gay anthem is

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<v Speaker 4>quote defamatory.

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<v Speaker 5>And damaging to the song. End quote.

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<v Speaker 4>Well he's still very happy, man, because as we know,

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<v Speaker 4>Trump has made his song very famous of late, and

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<v Speaker 4>well he's collecting the royalties. It's like the masculine version

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<v Speaker 4>of YMCA love It, Love It so top Dog doing

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<v Speaker 4>his own verse.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all quite interesting because he also says that he

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<v Speaker 1>recognizes that the gay community uses it as an anthem,

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<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't have a problem with them doing so.

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<v Speaker 1>He just doesn't want it sort of officially known as

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it was written for, because.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone thought the lyrics were describing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah used as a gay exactly. And of course members

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<v Speaker 1>of ymc A were gay, not all of them. Victor

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<v Speaker 1>is not gay, but some members of ymc A were gay.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the early days of Sorry Village, people is

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm talking about. And in the early days of

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<v Speaker 1>the Village people, you know, before it went mainstream, it

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<v Speaker 1>was fundamentally followed by gay people, but at one point

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<v Speaker 1>it cracked through with songs like YMCA and became a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more broad than that. So you can understand why

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<v Speaker 1>people would have thought that YAMCA was gay anthem. But

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<v Speaker 1>he also originally said that he didn't want Trump using

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<v Speaker 1>it during his campaigns, but he's then changed his mind

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<v Speaker 1>on that, presumably because he's seen the manager.

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<v Speaker 3>Of forty years after he wrote this song, it's now

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<v Speaker 3>back number one, and it was number one for two weeks,

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<v Speaker 3>so forty years after he wrote it, he's making absolute

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<v Speaker 3>mots all over again. But I mean, you look at

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<v Speaker 3>the bands and the performers who have said to Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>you must not use our music, oh even if you

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<v Speaker 3>pay for it, trummy.

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<v Speaker 5>He's got a very small playlist to make you.

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<v Speaker 3>If we were to go through them in alphabetical order,

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<v Speaker 3>and I won't go through them all, but let me

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<v Speaker 3>start with a These are people who said Trump, you

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<v Speaker 3>cannot use our music. Abba Adele Aerosmith, Aha, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Beyondcey,

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<v Speaker 3>Bruce Springsteen soon Credence clear Water Revival.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just see.

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<v Speaker 3>I could keep going for another three or four minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy has said, no, I like Trump using it,

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<v Speaker 3>and may I mean will.

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<v Speaker 1>May I point out though, one of your favorite musicians

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<v Speaker 1>and possibly one of the most famous gay men in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, Elton John, has no track with Trump using

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<v Speaker 1>his music. Trump uses Elton John all the time. He

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<v Speaker 1>loves Elton John, right, So, I mean the whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>is absurd in so far is because when you started

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<v Speaker 1>using YMCA, a lot of people were asking that question, like,

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<v Speaker 1>why is he using this song that is a gay anthem?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe he's doing that. When are we going

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<v Speaker 1>to hear from the village people about him doing so?

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<v Speaker 1>Will the village me for at least the writer of

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<v Speaker 1>the song is spoken now and said it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>gay anthem, and I don't have a problem with Trump

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<v Speaker 1>using it. But it just it proves to me again.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember in school, you know, and you know, Year

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<v Speaker 1>twelve English or whatever, and they give you a book

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<v Speaker 1>or a poem or something, and you had to analyze

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<v Speaker 1>it within a each of its life about what it's

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<v Speaker 1>meaning was. And quite often I'd read these ticks and go,

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<v Speaker 1>who am I to know what? Like, I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I think it's about. The author when

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<v Speaker 1>they wrote it probably had a completely different idea of

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<v Speaker 1>what they thought it was about. And this proves that

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<v Speaker 1>I think. I mean, the only person who can truly

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what a piece of art is meant to

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<v Speaker 1>mean is the artist himself. Sure, we look at pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of art and decide what we think it means to us,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not ultimately the true meaning of the art.

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<v Speaker 1>He is an artist taking back the meaning of his

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<v Speaker 1>piece of art, and good on him. I wish we

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<v Speaker 1>saw it more often before we start turning everything into

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<v Speaker 1>meaning something else that it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you what before we move on. You may

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<v Speaker 2>be kind of sad mentioning Elton John. Have you heard

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<v Speaker 2>the latest news on it?

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's lost his eyes, but apparently it'll come

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<v Speaker 1>back at a later stage.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you can't beat Elton John music, and I

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<v Speaker 3>reckon the reason Trump's using YMCA is because pretty much

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<v Speaker 3>no one else other than Elton John would let.

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<v Speaker 1>Him use it.

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<v Speaker 4>I say, it doesn't mean that he can't play Hello,

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<v Speaker 4>We've got It's.

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<v Speaker 1>A good paint, A good point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, is a very good if anyone can Elton John

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<v Speaker 3>will be able to do it. Let's stay overseas, but

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<v Speaker 3>go to Canada. And still dealing with Trump, Trump of course,

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<v Speaker 3>has announced that once he gets into the White House,

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<v Speaker 3>he will put tariffs on nations that are misbehaving towards

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<v Speaker 3>the US, including Canada to the north. He said he'll

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<v Speaker 3>hit them with a twenty five percent tariff if they

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<v Speaker 3>don't immediately stop the flow of illegals and drugs into

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<v Speaker 3>America across that northern border. Now, Canada enjoys a one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred billion dollar trade surplus with the US, so to

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<v Speaker 3>be hit with a twenty five percent tariff, well that

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<v Speaker 3>would hurt Canada. Justin Trudeau does not want that, so

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<v Speaker 3>he got on a plane and flew straight to the

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<v Speaker 3>US to have dinner with Trump. And well, I'll let

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<v Speaker 3>Fox News's Peter Doocey take up the story, and.

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<v Speaker 7>Tonight we're getting some new details about that Trump Trudeau

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<v Speaker 7>dinner from two people who were at the table. We

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<v Speaker 7>are told that whan Trudeau told President like Trump that

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<v Speaker 7>new tariffs would kill the Canadian economy, Trump jogged to

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<v Speaker 7>him that if Canada can't survive without ripping off the

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<v Speaker 7>US to the tune of one hundred billion dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 7>Then maybe Canada should become the fifty first state and

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<v Speaker 7>Trudeau could become its governor.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's great to finally have an alpha male back

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<v Speaker 3>in the White House. Of course, Donald Trump was joking

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<v Speaker 3>about Canada becoming the fifty first state of America, but

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<v Speaker 3>he left Justin Trudeau in no doubt about his intentions

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<v Speaker 3>and his seriousness. Like I said, it's just great to

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<v Speaker 3>have an alpha male back in the White House.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a picture of their meeting.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, no, sorry, that's that's not the picture of their meeting,

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<v Speaker 3>although that does look like Justin Trudeau.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the site.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what though, The idea is that Canada

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<v Speaker 3>could become the fifty first state of America. Could you

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<v Speaker 3>imagine the panic of all those celebrities who said, if

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<v Speaker 3>Trump wins, We're moving to Canada. There's no getting away

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<v Speaker 3>from the now to US just subsumes Canada.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a way around that, you're back in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Lol.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course Justin Trudeau shared that photo, not the first one,

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<v Speaker 4>the second, to his Twitter, tweeting thanks for dinner last night.

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<v Speaker 4>President Trump I look forward to the work we can

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<v Speaker 4>do together again, to which everyone writing on his Twitter

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<v Speaker 4>post was like.

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<v Speaker 5>What are you doing sitting with Hitler?

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<v Speaker 1>Mate?

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<v Speaker 5>How does it feel to be working with the radical

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<v Speaker 5>right wing again?

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<v Speaker 4>Why are you smiling with Hitler, this man that you

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<v Speaker 4>have defamed for years and years. Well, suddenly he says

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<v Speaker 4>something about tariffs. You're there at marr Lago playing happy

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<v Speaker 4>families flew in to kiss the ring and polish Trump's shoes,

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<v Speaker 4>didn't y.

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<v Speaker 5>Everyone is absolutely relishing.

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<v Speaker 4>This because and Trump said the same to Mexican as

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<v Speaker 4>we know, which got him a phone call very quickly

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<v Speaker 4>of Mexico being like, we're coming to the.

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<v Speaker 5>Party, what do you need?

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<v Speaker 4>So it is it is wonderful to see strong leadership.

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<v Speaker 5>And I said this during the first Trump term.

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<v Speaker 4>It tends to have a little bit like boys playing

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<v Speaker 4>in the playground when Trump is in the White House,

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<v Speaker 4>it tends to have a flow on effect where world

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<v Speaker 4>leaders walk a bit taller, puff their chests out a

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<v Speaker 4>bit more, get more of that testosterone masculine energy happening

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<v Speaker 4>in their own leadership profiles.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't hold your breath for.

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<v Speaker 4>Alban easy, because the leader of the free world, the

0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 4>commander in chief is not just an alpha male, but

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 4>an alpha male on steroids, and they all have this

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<v Speaker 4>way of responding to that in kind.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting as well because of course, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>unpredictability of Trump that makes him such a great diplomat,

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<v Speaker 1>because you don't really know what he's going to do

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 1>at any given time, so it encourages encourages you sorry

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<v Speaker 1>to negotiate with him before he's made up his mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Vladimir Zelenski was on the phone to Trump

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 1>before the election had even happened, because he'd sniffed the

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.199
<v Speaker 1>wind and worked out that he was likely to be

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<v Speaker 1>the president, because Trump has said that one of the

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>first things he will do and just read, but you know,

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the first things he will do is end

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:28.680
<v Speaker 1>the war between Russia and Ukraine. So Zelenski is straight

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:31.959
<v Speaker 1>on the phone to start doing the negotiating because Trump,

0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:34.680
<v Speaker 1>if you leave him to his own devices, they will

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:37.199
<v Speaker 1>do something that you don't want him to do. So

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 1>incomes Trudeau gets ahead of the game. Let's talk to

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 1>him before things get too far down the line. It's

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 1>actually a great form of diplomacy by saying, look, if

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't come to me, then I can't guarantee what

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do to you later.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's extraordinary because Trump is basically acting president already,

0:25:56.800 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 4>I know, exactly getting on the phone, flocking to Mari Lago,

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 4>let's have a.

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 5>Sit down dinner.

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:07.959
<v Speaker 4>They are a desperate to plac hate the beast before

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 4>he's actually in the White House. And it isn't just

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:14.439
<v Speaker 4>saying twenty five percent tariff on all the Canadian goods

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:17.880
<v Speaker 4>coming into our country until you stop the illegal drugs,

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:21.199
<v Speaker 4>the illegal aliens flowing over the northern border. They're trying

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 4>to get ahead of the game. So he's basically already

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 4>doing the job of president long before January twenty when

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 4>he'll be in augur.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't actually have a prison yet, but it was funny,

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 1>one blow pointed out on ex if you have a

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<v Speaker 1>funny twenty cent Dear Canada, if you want to join

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 1>the United States, we have a few rules. The leaf

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:42.199
<v Speaker 1>flag must go far around, position must go up by

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:45.920
<v Speaker 1>five hundred percent per household. Justin Trudeau must be exiled

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 1>to Cuba to be with his ancestry, which if you've

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.119
<v Speaker 1>ever looked at for del Castro, you might notice a

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>little similarity in their faces and for you will be

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.359
<v Speaker 1>referred to as snow Mexicans. Sound like a deal, but

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 1>it did bring to mind. You know, I've spent a

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of micury. You will know at home how much

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I hate councils, and I've spent most of my carey

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.640
<v Speaker 1>arguing for council amalgamations. And the argument that kept being

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:10.919
<v Speaker 1>put to me and is still put to me all

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>the time. It's the problem with council amalgamations is you

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:16.479
<v Speaker 1>can have one council that's doing really well, and then

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 1>you amalgamate it with a council that's not doing so well,

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and then suddenly the people from the really good council

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 1>have to, you know, have their finances go downhill a bit,

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 1>and the people from the council that wasn't doing well

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 1>are really happy because their finances have suddenly shot through

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<v Speaker 1>the roof.

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<v Speaker 2>Would the US.

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<v Speaker 1>Really want Canada to become another state because it's just

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 1>a dead weight on the rest of the country.

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 3>It will basically be importing hamas into America the way

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<v Speaker 3>Canada is doing so. I think it would be great

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 3>for Canada, not so great for the United States.

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<v Speaker 5>Not so great.

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<v Speaker 4>Something else that is very questionably is it really great

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 4>for anyone? Is a new supplement that's being put into

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 4>cow feed. It's called Beauvaya, and this is in order

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 4>to save the planet.

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 5>It is set to.

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 4>Cut methane cows farting by up to fifty percent. But

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 4>what exactly is this thing that we are putting in

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 4>cow feed to stop them from farting to save the planet.

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:18.919
<v Speaker 4>It's creating a lot of concern by people throughout the

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 4>Western world where this is being implemented. Now, the company's

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 4>doing this and not breaking any laws. It has been

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 4>approved by the relevant bodies in their country. But if

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:33.240
<v Speaker 4>you're anything like me, you don't really trust those relevant

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 4>bodies very much. Maybe you do, and power to you,

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 4>but I certainly do not. This beauvor has got some

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 4>serious side effects, particularly one of the ingredients. Here's a lady,

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 4>just an everyday person, who googled side effects of this

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 4>particular ingredient, and I'll let her tell you what she

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 4>found and what you will find if you google the same.

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<v Speaker 8>All right, so let's take a look at some of

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 8>the side effects of this Bovair skin and I irritant

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 8>potentially harmful when inhaled this is the worst may damage

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 8>male fertility and reproductive organs. So when you handle this

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 8>chemical that they're going to feed to the cows, you

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 8>must wear protective gear, dust mask, impervious gloves, wash your

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 8>hands after handling, rinse your eyes. So how can they

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 8>possibly call that safety?

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 4>So if it's that toxic for the people handling it,

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 4>what the heck is it doing to our cows? And

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 4>is it going to affect meat, cheese, milk.

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 5>One of the.

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 4>Big supermarkets, all the Foods UK, put out a statement

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 4>saying BOVA has been approved for use by both the

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 4>European Food Safety Authority and the UK Food Standards Agency

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 4>the FSA.

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 5>Again, do you trust these people? I don't know, It's

0:29:57.880 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 5>just me, but I personally don't.

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 4>They are how PIFAs in all our franken food. They

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 4>don't care about microplastics, They don't care about all the

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 4>herbicides and pesticides that the cows are eating by virtue

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 4>of eating grass anyway, like roundup and other things which

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 4>we know aren't very good for us or the cows. Now,

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 4>this idea of putting this supplement in cowfeed has been

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 4>backed by none other than Bill Gates and the company

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 4>who has produced beauva They are called DSM Fermink has

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 4>received funding from Bill Gates, but not with regard to

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 4>this particular Beauvea project, because he's got his own company

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 4>called Ruminate, which is pushing out their own supplement that

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 4>supposedly does exactly the same thing. But I want to

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 4>give a shout out to those dairy farmers here in

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 4>Australia who have gone on social media and done their

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 4>dandas to reassure people we are.

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 5>Not using this Bouveta nonsense.

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 4>Norcoa Milk Milany dairies, Gippsland, Jersey and Bass River dairies

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 4>here in Australia. They've said, we're not feeding our cows

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 4>this crap, and we can assure you of that. It

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 4>just goes to it bobbles the mind that we are

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 4>so believing in this climate cult nonsense that we are

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 4>now feeding cows something to stop their natural breakdown. We

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 4>all know their rather complex creatures in terms of having

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 4>three stomachs and doing what they do the cud they chew,

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 4>the incredible benefits we get from them in terms of

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 4>dairy meat etc. And here we are messing with the

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 4>most natural bodily processes for these bovines.

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:51.880
<v Speaker 2>And you raised some great points.

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 3>We don't trust governments, we don't trust government bureaucracies, we

0:31:55.920 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 3>don't trust the climate science. We don't trust science. It's

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 3>been so politicized. So I sympathize with your concern about this,

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 3>and I'm sure there's many people who would say, there's

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 3>no way I'm drinking that stuff, which then creates opportunity

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 3>for milk companies such as you listed here in Australia,

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 3>who are already advertising by our milk. We don't get

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 3>it from cows that have been plied with this stuff.

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 3>I heard of one milk company colored that's advertising how

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 3>you get full cream milk. They're advertising full fat milk, which,

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 3>by the sound.

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Of it, you might not go for it.

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 3>But once you've heard, be like, hey, I want that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's funny you mentioned that. I'm sure of you

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the home will remember this ad pot of milk.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I've had and I've had full cream, high calcium,

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 7>high protein, sorry light skim a Mega three high calcium

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 7>with vitamin D and folid or extra dollop.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want milk to taste like real milk. I mean,

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe now they'll have to add full fat milk to

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.239
<v Speaker 1>to the list there. I mean, I shouldn't speak too

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>much because I interfere with my own digestive system by

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 1>taking proton pump inhibitors somac. You know, it's an antacid

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>type thing. There's lots of most people I think are

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 1>on them for the reason that.

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 5>Is, whatever thing is taking.

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>But I mean for who cares anyway. I mean, you know,

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>cows fart and cows burp. It's actually the burps that

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 1>most of the methane comes out of. I mean, cows

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 1>have been walking around the Earth for how damn long

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 1>burping and farting and carrying on, and suddenly it's a problem. Oh,

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>we can't have them doing that anymore. Their natural tendencies.

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 1>They're digestive systems working in the way that they have

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>evolved to work, and suddenly that's bad because it's going

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 1>to cook the planet or something.

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 4>It's not going to save the cows anyway, because we

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 4>know how dogged this agenda is at all euro omissions.

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 4>So if it's only cutting them by fifty percent many

0:33:56.880 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 4>articles say more like twenty seven percent, then it's never

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 4>going to be good enough, is it? And we know

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 4>the likes of Bill Gates says we just we need

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 4>to get rid of beef all together.

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:09.359
<v Speaker 5>Here's a quote from him back in twenty twenty one.

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 4>He said, I do think all rich countries should move

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 4>to one hundred percent synthetic beef baff. You can get

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 4>used to the taste difference, and the claim is they're

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 4>going to make it taste even better over time. Eventually

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:27.399
<v Speaker 4>that green premium is modest enough that you can sort

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 4>of change the behavior of people or use regulation to

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:37.280
<v Speaker 4>totally shift the demand. I just force people to eat

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 4>fake meat. That was back in twenty twenty one, for

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:44.239
<v Speaker 4>crying out loud. These guys are very open about what

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 4>their agenda is, and it's up to we the people,

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 4>to push back on it and say we're not buying

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:50.800
<v Speaker 4>this rabbit.

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they are very clearly buttering us up here.

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 1>And may I say there is a lot of steak.

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 1>There is a lot at steak. Let's go to the

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>United States. Now, hey, it's my last night on the

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>late debate for the year. You've got to let me

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:04.440
<v Speaker 1>have a.

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:06.799
<v Speaker 2>Little you know, cut the doing will mate.

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 3>The cream always rises to the not well done.

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Before we go to a break over in the United States,

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic. I had

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 1>to make sure I got that entirely correct because it

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 1>is a bit of a mouthful. But they have handed

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 1>down their report into what they think happened the origins

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>of COVID and of course the response to COVID in

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the United States, which was much as the same as

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 1>here in Australia, and woe and behold. After pouring over

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:38.400
<v Speaker 1>more than one million pages of documents relating to the

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 1>origins of COVID, they have come to the conclusion that

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 1>it came from a lab in Wuhan. Yes, can you

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>believe it? Exactly what we've been saying for years, all

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 1>the great work that Cherry Marson did find her book

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>on the origins of COVID if you haven't read it.

0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 1>And we were dismissed as conspiracy theorists for saying this

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 1>was created in a lab, Well, no, we have more

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:04.760
<v Speaker 1>proof now to say that we were right. The report

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.799
<v Speaker 1>also said that lockdowns did more harm than good, that

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 1>masked mandates were ineffective, and that there was no evidence

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 1>for social distancing revel Who would have thought all this

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:21.880
<v Speaker 1>stuff that we were talking about for years, and someone

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 1>has gone through millions and millions of pages of documents.

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Interviewed Anthony Fauci, who of course said that he didn't

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>know where the six foot social distancing rule came from.

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 1>He didn't know. He hadn't looked into any data about

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:38.839
<v Speaker 1>how masked mandates had affected children, et cetera. All on

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:40.799
<v Speaker 1>the record, and they go, oh, hang on a minute,

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>this stuff didn't work. We could have told you that

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 1>years ago.

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:48.840
<v Speaker 4>How people can trust a word these government agencies across

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 4>the board, how they can trust a word?

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 1>They say?

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:54.800
<v Speaker 5>Ever again, is it beyond.

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:56.840
<v Speaker 3>Me when you say they read over a million pages?

0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean I read Sharry Markson's book What Really Happened

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 3>in Wumart. It's just a couple of hundred page a

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 3>lot of time. When you go to a break. When

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<v Speaker 3>we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>That's coming up in the second. Okay, let's take a

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:14.280
<v Speaker 3>look at what's making headlines tomorrow. Will start with Sydney's

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:17.800
<v Speaker 3>Daily Telegraph, which states the obvious hip pocket pain hits

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 3>home under labor recession of the people. Reads the headline,

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:25.280
<v Speaker 3>and the article says Australians are thousands of dollars worse

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:28.760
<v Speaker 3>off under the Albanezy government, as experts say the country

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 3>is now mired in a recession of the people. The

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 3>latest National account data, which was out today in tomorrow's

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 3>paper We'll say yesterday, revealed economic growth has slowed to

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 3>its lowest annual rate in more than thirty years. That's

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:46.800
<v Speaker 3>outside of the pandemic, as government spending and high levels

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 3>of migration mask the true damage to household budgets. The

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:53.919
<v Speaker 3>article goes on to say that government spending is now

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eight percent of GDP. That's compared to an average

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:01.840
<v Speaker 3>of about twenty two percent in the ten years leading

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<v Speaker 3>up to the pandemic. That's sort of spending is just

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:09.320
<v Speaker 3>absolutely unsustainable. But not only that, it risks keeping inflation

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 3>high so interest rates stay high.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter which way you look at this.

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Everybody is hurting and the government don't seem to know

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 3>what to do other than just keep pumping money into

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 3>the occas, even.

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 5>Though they are the sole cause of the problem.

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 4>As Milton Friedman famously said, inflation is created in Washington.

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:36.399
<v Speaker 4>It's completely done by government spending. And he also goes

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 4>on to say that that's our fault because how many

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:41.879
<v Speaker 4>of us love a freebie from the government. So every

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:44.840
<v Speaker 4>time the government's coming up for reelection, what does it promise?

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.759
<v Speaker 5>More spending, more spending, more spending.

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:49.799
<v Speaker 4>You only have to take a look at a few

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 4>of the things labors already saying that they're taking to

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:56.400
<v Speaker 4>the next election, like universal daycare, which is going to

0:38:56.600 --> 0:39:00.919
<v Speaker 4>cost us billions of dollars. This is what they do.

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:04.400
<v Speaker 4>They come up with new ways of saying freebies for everyone,

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 4>and then people vote for the.

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 5>Freebies just once. Especially now, I'd love.

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<v Speaker 4>To see a party with the Gonads to say, actually,

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:17.720
<v Speaker 4>we are running on a very fiscal agenda. We're actually

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:20.400
<v Speaker 4>going to be like, hey, Australia, want to tighten your

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 4>belt so that your children's children's children aren't paying off

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 4>this ridiculous debt. Because I think a lot of responsible

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:32.760
<v Speaker 4>Australians would say, yeah, actually, let's get it done instead

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 4>of everyone being promised a pony and a pony for

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 4>their pony, and everyone then voting for whichever party they

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 4>think is going to give it them the most free bee.

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:44.160
<v Speaker 3>I wish that were true, but Kembell Newman got into

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 3>government and then did that in Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>Service in a landslide, in a landslide quick time. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, over the days of Paul Keating, who once

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 1>upon a time said we were going to have the

0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 1>recession we had to have, he was at least upfront

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>about that fact.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Camvil Newman, by the way, is a very

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 4>unique situation. I mean, Queensland has been a labor state

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 4>for a very long time. That was an exceptional election

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 4>and I don't think anyone was surprised and that was

0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:16.759
<v Speaker 4>not the number one that wasn't the reason why he

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 4>was voted out.

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 1>But at least Keating was honest about the fact that

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.360
<v Speaker 1>he was about to lead the country into recession. What

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Albanezi and Charmers have done here is preside over the

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 1>longest household recession in half a century. Your money is

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:35.280
<v Speaker 1>going backwards, the household GDP is going backwards, but covering

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.920
<v Speaker 1>up the official numbers at a national level by pumping

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:42.359
<v Speaker 1>up the migration and as Paul Murray was explaining at

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the top of his program, employing more and more public

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 1>servants and giving them pay rises because that makes it

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:52.239
<v Speaker 1>look like there is marginal economic growth, which there actually isn't.

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:54.279
<v Speaker 1>I also want to just note, if we can get

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the front of the Daily Telegraph back up again, who's

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 1>this bird in the top left of the paper? Who's

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 1>giving me the finger? She's good looking last, but I'm

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:08.960
<v Speaker 1>not quite sure. It seems that she's a superstar on

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 1>a Sydney set. I'm assuming for a film or something.

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 1>But what's she doing giving me the finger on the

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 1>front of the paper. I don't know what that's all about.

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 4>Don't know, don't care to the front page of the

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 4>herald Son mortgage stretcher. If this doesn't make your guts grown,

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:25.839
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what will. The forty year mortgage has

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 4>arrived in a move other major lenders are expected to follow.

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 4>Pepper Money is launching a mortgage next week that will

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:39.719
<v Speaker 4>run out to December twenty sixty five. Borrowers would pay

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 4>less each month, but the loans are dearer in the

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 4>long term.

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, go figure.

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:49.799
<v Speaker 4>I just I don't even want to think about this.

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I even want to be alive

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:59.240
<v Speaker 4>in twenty sixty five to think about paying How quickly

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:02.279
<v Speaker 4>people used to be able to buy a house back

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 4>in the day. Get it done in a couple of decades.

0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 4>If that we're now talking about forty year mortgages because

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 4>they're so expensive you're gonna need forty years or maybe

0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 4>even more to pay off even a one better apartment.

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 4>And if you're looking at Central suburbs in Sydney and that's.

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:24.280
<v Speaker 5>For a hole in the wall, that's nothing fancy?

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 3>Is it in Japan where they have mortgages now that

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 3>are generational so it gets handed on to your kids,

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 3>which has a certain attraction.

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Actually come, well, I'm sure it does, but I mean,

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 1>the greatest thing about debt has always been that it

0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:42.319
<v Speaker 1>is extinguished upon death. The creditor can come and take

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 1>assets to recover as much of their money as possible,

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 1>but you can't actually pass debt on to children. Imagine

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 1>if that were the case. You know, but you could

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>go out and take it a massive mortgage. About five

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:57.799
<v Speaker 1>minutes before you carget, You're like, you know, before I die,

0:42:57.800 --> 0:42:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I really want to have a ferrari in a match.

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 1>And then your kids like, Dad, what did your donos?

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I've got two of them. I'll get two cars. It's interesting.

0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Over the last couple years, four hundred and thirty thousand

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Australians have extended the life of their mortgages.

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:12.960
<v Speaker 2>So clearly, when.

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 3>People are struggling with repayments, even though you're worse off

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:18.319
<v Speaker 3>in the long run, it's going to be attractive to me.

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing, right, Like it's sad, but what

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>else have people meant to do? If you want to

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:26.839
<v Speaker 1>buy in the market that currently exists, you haven't got

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of room to move and you don't have

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 1>much choice. So if this allows you to get into

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the market, you'd say, okay, that's great. But of course

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:38.280
<v Speaker 1>that also then has the effect of allowing more people

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 1>into the housing market, which when you haven't already stretched

0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:44.319
<v Speaker 1>housing market, means the prices go up even further. So

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:47.439
<v Speaker 1>you really can't win here, can you. But you said

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:49.879
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be alive in twenty sixty five,

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 1>which is a sad thought, Liz, But I can't remember

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:54.719
<v Speaker 1>who sang the song, But you know it goes in

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 1>the year twenty five, twenty five, if man is still alive,

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 1>if woman can survive, you may find and then it

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:07.799
<v Speaker 1>goes on all these futuristic things. Donnary, wasn't it, these

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:11.240
<v Speaker 1>futuristic things that were supposedly going to happen. I occasionally

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 1>go back and listen to it, because it goes on

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:15.279
<v Speaker 1>about you know, twenty twenty and all this stuff, and

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:17.359
<v Speaker 1>it's like, wow, that's not actually what the world turned

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 1>out like. It's a bit like watching back to the future.

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 1>They went forward to it was it twenty sixteen or

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen they went to and they were all getting

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:26.719
<v Speaker 1>around on hover boards and stuff, and it's like, that

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't happen, did it. Let's go to the front of

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:32.839
<v Speaker 1>the ods tomorrow where it sees Pearson's explicit plea roll

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:36.920
<v Speaker 1>out direct instructions to all classrooms. This is going on

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:39.320
<v Speaker 1>from the story we were talking about last night. You

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:43.720
<v Speaker 1>saw napland results have come out today and Catholic schools

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 1>in the act you have had great success going back

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 1>to direct instruction. Aboriginal leader Noel Pearson has demanded that

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:54.400
<v Speaker 1>all schools adopt direct instruction in classrooms and blasted education

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 1>leaders for ignoring the reform for twenty years. Mister Pearson

0:44:57.680 --> 0:45:00.239
<v Speaker 1>said it was bittersweet to see Catholic schools in through

0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:03.879
<v Speaker 1>reading in mathematics results through direct instruction method also known

0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 1>as explicit teaching, after he lobbied for two decades to

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 1>have it mandated in public schools. And as we said

0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:12.440
<v Speaker 1>last time, I mean, this stuff is as plain as

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the nose on your face. It's been in front of

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 1>us for so long. In fact, it's how things used

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:19.279
<v Speaker 1>to be done, and then we decided, oh I've got

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:21.880
<v Speaker 1>new fangled ways to do it. They just don't work.

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:23.880
<v Speaker 1>When are we going to get back to basics?

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Yep, they should absolutely do it.

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 3>And if you had parents kids in schools, you'd be

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 3>demanding that your schools go back to this kind of

0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 3>teaching we're going to break when we come back. Will

0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:37.800
<v Speaker 3>show you the new Jaguar that's caused so much controversy.

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 3>You can check it out for yourself and see if

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:40.319
<v Speaker 3>you like it.

0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:45.360
<v Speaker 2>All. Right after Jaguar.

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 3>Announced a controversial rebranding, we've all been waiting to see, Caleb,

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:50.440
<v Speaker 3>what the new car is going to look like.

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh my, I really don't want to show it to

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:56.120
<v Speaker 1>you actually, but you'll remember that new ad they came

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 1>up with and it had no car in it whatsoever,

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:02.400
<v Speaker 1>and it had people in weird dresses and haircuts and whatever.

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Look if they just you know, run this, things might

0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:20.040
<v Speaker 1>look a little better, you know, an actual Jaguar to

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.799
<v Speaker 1>sort them out. But unfortunately they didn't do that. Now

0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I've shown you this before. I love Jaguars. They're beautiful

0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 1>British cars. You know the mark to the X J six,

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:34.960
<v Speaker 1>the E type, you know, I mean, look at that.

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:39.040
<v Speaker 1>That is just a beautiful car. You look at that.

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 1>It feels britty. I mean the E type that is

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:44.839
<v Speaker 1>sex on wheels. Well, have a look at what they've

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:47.839
<v Speaker 1>come up with now, So I am with the all

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:51.880
<v Speaker 1>you Jaguar Type zero zero, which is a design vision.

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:54.840
<v Speaker 5>Check it out and looks absolutely insane.

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 4>When we look at the front.

0:46:56.200 --> 0:46:56.680
<v Speaker 5>We can have.

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:02.399
<v Speaker 8>Three of where insane.

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Likes as you can see.

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 7>The doors open.

0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Solutely crazy. Check out that interior which is unbelievable.

0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:22.360
<v Speaker 5>The screens go off as world that is insane.

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 1>See the flintstones have finally arrived. I mean that thing

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 1>looks like one of those suicide pods that they use

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 1>over in the in the Netherlands for people to say

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 1>goodbye to the world. Who wants that? That is not

0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 1>a Januar. I mean, when you saw the beautiful things

0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:41.759
<v Speaker 1>they once made, and now they're making boxy crap like.

0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:42.719
<v Speaker 2>That, I couldn't work out.

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Is that the new Jaguar or is it the Barbie movie,

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:46.160
<v Speaker 3>which one is it?

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:47.320
<v Speaker 2>And they talk about.

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:48.240
<v Speaker 5>When it comes in blue?

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Well they talked about creativity, right, because creative and it's original,

0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 3>and so they've come up with blue and pink like

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:55.720
<v Speaker 3>for boys and girls.

0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:59.279
<v Speaker 5>I mean great binary. They even that, You would have

0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:00.839
<v Speaker 5>thought they would have got slam for that.

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 3>If you remember the Thunderbirds, which I'm not sure you

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:05.080
<v Speaker 3>would have ever watched the Thunderbirds, you probably would have.

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:09.440
<v Speaker 2>That pink Jaguar is straight out of the Thunderbirds. Go

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:11.279
<v Speaker 2>back and look, it's straight out of it.

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:13.879
<v Speaker 1>But that's the only sort of person who would buy

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 1>a thing like that is someone who is a puppet,

0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 1>who's got the strings. I will do what I am

0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:22.240
<v Speaker 1>told to do by my wo I'd love.

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 4>To know how many they end up selling new Range

0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:26.720
<v Speaker 4>going directing.

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 3>The executives at BMW or AUDI are really worried about

0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 3>the new Jaguar.

0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I think not. I think not at all.

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 3>That's all we've got time for tonight, but stick around.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming up is the Reader Pennety Show.