WEBVTT - Celia Pacquola won’t be shaving her legs for the Logies. Here’s why 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:12.119 Hello, and welcome to Something to Talk About the Stella Podcast. 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:15.040 I'm Sarah La Marquin to your host. Every week I 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:16.759 sit down with some of the biggest names in the 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.320 country because when Australia's celebrities are ready to. 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:21.360 Talk, they come to Something to Talk About. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:26.400 Today's guest, Celia Piccola, has been busy. She debuted her 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:29.319 first live show in five years, became the host of 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:33.320 everyone's favorite sketch series Thank God You're Here, starred in 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:38.440 the LOGI nominated Utopia, and in between filming, writing and performing, 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:42.400 she also had a baby. Celia likes to do things 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.320 that scare her, which is perhaps why she's an actor, 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:50.000 slash comedian, slash host, slash writer. She says it gives 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:53.319 her anxiety, but almost in a good way because if 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:56.000 things go bad, well at least she still gets a 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:56.920 story out of it. 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:58.920 On today's episode is. 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.840 Something to Talk About, Celia joins me to talk about 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:05.199 why she decided to host Thank God You're Here, about 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:09.240 working with Luke McGregor, and her hilarious observation of what 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.640 she realized as a new mother. We also talk about 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.240 what she's planning to wear to the logis next month, 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.600 and let's just say she won't have to shave her legs. 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.560 Celia Pacola, welcome to something. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:22.040 To talk about. 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:24.120 Hello, thank you for having me. 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:25.600 I mean, thank god you're here. 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.200 As they say, I know, isn't it fun? So last 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:33.560 year when that started happening, I was like, Oh, it's 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:35.479 quite pleasant. It's actually quite a nice way to walk 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:37.600 into a room. You just feel really wanted every week, 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:38.319 and it's very nice. 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:38.960 It would be nice. 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:40.679 I think we should all walk into a room and 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:42.399 everyone says, thank God you're here. 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.480 Some of us feel that we have the opposite effect 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:46.040 on people. 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:47.680 I'm leaving. 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:52.040 Congratulations are in order. You have been nominated for a 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:55.360 LOGI this year. Thank God You're here is nominated. But 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:58.600 you have also been nominated for a LOGI for Actress 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:00.960 in a Comedy for your role in Utopia. 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.800 This is great. Thank you very much. I'm very excited. 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:06.680 I have not and I'm going to go. I haven't 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:08.960 gone for the last few years. I've missed them for 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.760 whatever such and such reason. But I'm very excited, very 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.400 happy for Utopia. Which is kind of a blur because 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:18.520 I had a tiny, uh baby that I have at 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.240 the moment when we were filming that and a fringe 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:24.440 that I regret, so it was a difficult time for me, 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:26.720 but I'm very excited and I'm very happy for Rob 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.120 Sitch as well as nominated for his performance in Utopia 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.760 and the show the whole show as well, So I'm 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:34.520 very toughed. It'd be great to be there, and thank 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:36.920 God that's huge for me. You know, the fact that 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.160 we that the show happened at all and that people 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:43.160 liked it is a big deal. So I'm very proud 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:44.440 to turn up. 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.880 You of course, saw the host of Thank God You're here, 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:49.280 and I would love to talk to you a little 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:53.600 bit today about the different career incarnations that you have 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.480 as an actor, as a comedian, as a writer. 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:58.120 But hosting a show. 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:02.120 How did that feel when you first started doing that, 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:05.240 Because there's a big responsibility on your shoulders, and it's 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.520 obviously such a beloved comedic format, but you also have 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:11.320 to be a little bit of the slide attendant, the 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.280 sensible person in the room, keep things on course. 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:15.920 How is all of that sit with you? 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.040 Yeah, well, I've been approached to host things in the 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.160 past and I've always said no. I understand why people 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:24.200 would think that I might do it because my style 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.760 is quite conversational and stuff, but I'm scared of it 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:28.760 for that reason because I don't want to be in charge. 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.320 I don't want to be responsible for other people having 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.680 a good time or a bad time. You know. I'm like, no, no, 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:35.560 I'd much rather go in, do my thing and then 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:39.280 go home. But with this, what actually happened was I 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.280 was the first I was taken out for a cup 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:45.040 of coffee, and the conversation was so you know, thank 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.680 god you hear. I'm like, yes, that huge part of 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:51.560 my childhood. I was already old then less old than 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.560 I am now. Yes, it's coming back. And my heart 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.200 sank because I thought they were going to go would 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:00.040 you like to go through the door? Which feels me 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.880 with absolute terror, but simultaneously knowing that I would do 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:04.160 it because it's one of those things where if I 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:06.400 get asked to do something, being scared is not a 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.280 good enough reason to not do it. So I was like, oh, no, 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:10.560 I'm going to go through the door, and they went 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.200 we were thinking, would you be interested in hosting it? 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.200 And it's the first time where I went, oh, yeah, 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.520 that's way easier, Like I just went off, Yeah, of 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.320 course yes I can, because for this show, the host, 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.080 it's not about me, Like my job is not is 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.080 not the show if I fail. It's not that. My 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.600 job is really to be a flight attendant, as you say, 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:33.200 to be traffic control and just enjoy it, which I do. 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:34.120 I love it, like I. 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:37.080 Just get to be there and watch and just have 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:38.960 a fun time, which I already am. So every way 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.000 I turned it in my mind, I was like, I 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:43.120 think this is a good thing that I can. I 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:46.640 can do, like that's bare minimum of my job is 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.840 to just go you go through that door and then 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.240 watch the show. And I'd been doing that from home anyway, 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:57.719 so I was nervous. But no, it's the first hosting 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:59.520 position that I've accepted. 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:04.160 Yeah, it's always good sometimes in managing your fears if 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:05.960 there's a scarier alternative. 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:07.880 So if you first thought it was like a bit 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:09.600 of relief, maybe it just puts I mean. 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:11.720 Maybe that's the only reason that I said yes, is 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:13.680 because I was scared of something that was more scary. 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:18.039 But no, I really and the other fear was because 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:19.760 it's such a beloved show, as you were saying as well, 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:21.600 is like I don't want to be the person who 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.359 breaks it. I don't want it to be the reason 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:26.320 why it comes back and it didn't work, you know sometimes, 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:29.080 So there was that fear as well. But yeah, as 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:30.640 I say, every way I turned it, I was like, 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.320 the other thing is with this show because of the 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.200 guests who come on. I love that it's such an 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.479 incredible range of up and coming new voices that the 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.760 nation hasn't seen. There's also pretty established comedians who are 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.480 jobbing and working and everywhere right now. And then there's 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.359 the upper level, you know, comedians who I've looked up 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.640 to who before me, and I've actually been doing comedy 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.120 for almost twenty years now. So I feel like half 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.240 of them are my best mates, half of them are 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.120 new people that I'm excited to see half of them, 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.039 and the third half I wasn't good at math ah 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:04.400 my comedy heroes. So I really thought, I think I 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.480 can be useful in this space. Like I feel like people, 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.520 I know who these people are, I'm excited to see them, 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:13.440 and I know how to treat them with respect, do 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.360 you know what I mean? Like I feel like if 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.400 I'd been asked to host a gardening show, I'd be 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.280 like no, because this is not my area. I don't 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:20.480 know what I'm doing, and I don't know what any 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.240 of these plants are, but I'm thank god you're here. 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.200 I know all the plants very well. 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:28.560 And I imagine there is obviously that mutual understanding and 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.800 respect for what one another does, because that's right. It 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.440 is a whole different approach than if you are on 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.680 a gardening show, for respect to gardeners. But obviously there's 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.320 a shorthand what is the green room like? 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:41.279 Backstage? 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:45.200 Oh? There is one here, Okay, well, it's like a 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.680 theme park, honestly, backstage, so everyone is kept siloed. It 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.480 is so secretive, so none of the performers are able 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.880 to see pretty much each other, or any of the 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.559 ensembles or any of the props. There's animals walking around 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.960 backstad like it is. It's a fun park. You wouldn't 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.240 believe what is real, but it has to be real 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.200 for the show to work, so everything is kept separate. 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:06.480 There are huge sets. 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.320 Maybe there's half a boat going past over there, and 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.800 then down there there's a marching band, and then there's 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.360 a box full of bees for some reason, and it 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:20.880 is just a ridiculous chaos, but very organized chaos happening backstage. 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:24.280 So there's no real green room. There's a little green 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.880 room after the show, and that is the best time 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.920 because that's just when everyone gets to debrief and go, 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.760 oh my god, could you believe when that happened? What 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.080 were you thinking when that happened? And that's so so 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.080 we get to come together. The bees aren't in that. 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.720 The bees get taken away doing it by that point. 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:43.480 But yeah, so it's a there's a real nervous excitement 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:47.520 and energy before the show. But yeah, it's not like 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.720 any sort of standard green room that you'd have, say 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.280 in a comedy club or you know, in any other 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:54.680 television show that I've ever worked on. 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.280 A lot of people would be surprised to hear you 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.400 earlier when you were first offered the role, or when 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.080 you thought, oh my goodness, they're going to ask me 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:04.880 to actually walk through the door, that you would have 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:06.880 even had any trepidation about that. 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:10.440 Because you have worked in the industry for twenty years. 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.559 As you just said, you've hosted your first live show 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:14.600 in five years. 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:16.200 I'm as surprised as you are. 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:20.120 In twenty sixteen, you became the youngest woman to host 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:24.360 the Gala for the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. Do you 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:29.560 still obviously that nervous energy imagine fuels every performer, every comedian. 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:35.080 But how has your anxiety, your self, doubt, general nervousness 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:39.440 improved or abated in any way over the course of 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:40.000 your career. 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:42.760 I should say it's probably fifteen what I'm like twenty. 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:44.199 I wasn't doing standard when I was twenty one, so 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.840 it's probably more like fifteen years I was. I was 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.360 giving myself an extra five years because, as I say 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:50.800 about at Maths, it seems like that's going to be 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.360 a theme. I have learnt about myself that there will 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:57.640 always be nerves, and there should be. I choose jobs 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.600 now that I'm a bit scared of I have to. 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:02.840 You know, I'm always going to be a bit nervous, 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.079 But I think that's more so because I also now 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:09.920 choose jobs where I will be a bit nervous, because 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.720 that means it's a challenge if I'm a bit nervous. Look, 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:16.480 the anxiety thing is a longer story and a longer road. 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.040 It's still it's about managing it. It's part of who 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.520 I am and always will be, So it's about managing 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:25.280 it and sometimes I'm better at that than others. I'm 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:29.719 generally I'm not as terrified of everything as I was, 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:31.720 which I think just happens with when you get runs 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.439 on the board. So most of the things that I've done, 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.560 I'm doing it for the first time. So doing the 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.040 gala for the first time that was the most terrifying 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:41.920 thing in the world. And then the second time I 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:45.760 did the gala, it wasn't as scary because just logically, 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.640 I'm like, I have proof that you are able to 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.760 do this, so it's not as scary. So then hosting 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.160 the gala, I was like, well, I have no reference 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.679 of hosting the gala before, so that's scary. And then 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.439 the next time I host something, you just sort of 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:03.760 start accumulating proof of what your skills are and times 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.120 that you've done something that was scary and it was fine. 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:10.600 So I don't know. So that just continuing to work 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.960 means my lodge, I can't argue with the facts, which 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:18.800 are you can and have done something like this before, 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.360 so it'll probably be fine. Does that mean that you 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.680 might have a blank and wei pants on stage? You might, 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:26.680 I really might. I might do it right now, There 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:31.480 are no there is always the possibility. But I think 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:35.040 just continuing to do the scary things and being proved 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:38.200 that you can and it'll probably be okay makes it 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.839 a bit easier to go this will probably be okay too. 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.319 I'm not sure if you ever have had a blank 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.640 and weed your pants on stage, but are there some 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:51.800 moments that stand out for you that you just completely 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.360 froze or thought, I can't get through this, and then 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.280 a bit to what you were just talking about, Celia. 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.959 Once you get through something, then there's an inner. 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.760 Knowledge whatever it is in life career, that I got 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:05.560 through that, so I probably can handle whatever gets thrown 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:06.400 at me next time. 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:08.920 The good thing in my line of work is if 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:12.000 it does or if it is a complete disaster, then 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.320 you get a story out of it, you know. So actually, 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.920 if something terrible happens, it's terrible thing amongst communities when 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:19.520 you have conversations and someone will tell you something awful, 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:21.560 they've just had the worst time, and in your mind 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:23.160 you're like, damn it, that's gonna be a good show. 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.640 That is very that's gonna be a really good show. 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:31.560 So there's that aspect of it, but really bad ones 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.520 that have happened just in terms of weaving myself. I 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:36.360 might do material about this one day because this was 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.360 a fun There was a fun period of my career 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:40.880 where thanks brain, you know when you do sometimes you 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.800 just got my thanks brain where I hadn't. But whilst 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:47.240 on stage, my brain told me that I had wet 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:51.160 my pants. So I'd be telling jokes, and whilst telling jokes, 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:54.880 my brain is going, Celia, they're not laughing at your 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.560 jokes anymore. They're all laughing because you've wet yourself and 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:01.280 they're thinking, why is this one standing on stage and 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.320 not addressing the fact that she's wet her pants, And 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:05.760 so my mind would go, you haven't, no, but you have, 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:07.839 so just look down and check that you haven't wear 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:09.360 your pants, And then I'd go, you can't do that, 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:11.520 because then you're gonna look like a crazy person who's 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.840 mid sentence just looking at your cross for no reason. 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.360 So that's a thing that actually happened. So that wasn't fun. 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:22.400 I've also blanked. That's the nightmare scenario for me is 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.120 just forgetting. And that's the anxiety dreams that I'll have 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.200 where you know, I think every career, I don't know, 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.040 if you have this, you have you know, like you 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.959 have anxiety dreams, so do you have in your version 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.920 you dream that you're interviewing someone and you can't remember 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:36.480 who they are or what the questions. 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:40.280 Absolutely, I think going blank in any sort of live 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:44.520 pressure environment is I think a nightmare for anyone, whether 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:48.520 you're doing a speech or on television, just thinking I 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:50.959 have no idea what was about to be in my brain. 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.079 It's a terrifying concept. 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.120 Yeah, so that's happened and not. The thing is, it's 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.200 always not as bad as it seems to you. So 0:12:58.440 --> 0:12:59.840 for you it feels like two and a half hours 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:03.240 of silence into them. It's probably pretty quick and generally 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:05.280 I'll just lean into it. If it's that bad, you 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.880 just say it, just own it. Because I'm all about 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.760 getting material out of embarrassing myself anyway, so I'd just 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.959 go listen, I'm going to come clean here. I've forgotten 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:16.320 what I was going to say, and I don't know 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:17.960 what it is, so what could we do about it? 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:19.720 And just trying to get out of it that way. 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:25.080 My most terrifying on stage thing was doing live at 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:26.760 the Apollo, which is. 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.559 I'd say probably still one of the biggest comedy stages in. 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.480 The world, like when I was coming up that was like, 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:37.840 that was the gig and it was a twenty minute set, 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:39.599 I think, and it was going quite well. I'm like, 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.000 I'm doing it. I'm getting away with it. Oh my gosh, 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:44.520 I'm going to do it. And there was a clock 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.080 on stage and I was almost finishing my routine, so 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.120 I thought I'd be at like sixteen minutes or something, 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:51.720 and I looked at the clock and it was like 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:56.120 seven minutes. So I had just rushed. I'd gone so fast. 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:59.680 I'm like, oh no, I've done like half of my 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.000 time and I've got no jokes left. This is in 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:06.840 my mind, by the way, on stage, so immediately I 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.640 haven't watched it back because I'll be sick. I just slowed, 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:13.680 just suddenly started talking so slow. So my mind is going, 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:14.880 what am I gonna do? What am I gonna do? 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:18.280 I'm gonna run out of material. Do I end how 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.240 I was supposed to end, which has a callback or 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.280 what so? Or do I just try and think of 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.320 some more jokes out of my mind and put them in. 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:32.240 It's incredible what the brain can do simultaneously. Anyway, in 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.040 the end, I finished it as I was going to finish. 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:36.640 It was way earlier, and I just came clean to 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:38.640 the audience. I went listen. What's happened is knowing it 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.720 was going to be edited. Here's what's happened. I've got 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:42.920 a bit excited, and I finished a bit early, so 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:45.560 I've got time for another joke. Do you want to 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:46.840 hear a joke about this? Or about this? 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:48.600 I'm actually asked their way outsourced it. 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:50.000 I don't know I was singing. I just panicked. I'm like, 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.080 I can't make another decision, and did an extra bit 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.520 of material. So that is an example of it was 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:58.320 my absolute nightmare. The nightmare happened, and it's and then 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.080 it's fine, and now I would care everything is in 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.320 the past. That's the other thing that helps Miller is 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.880 the things that I was so scared about for so long. 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.080 As soon as that happened, then they're in the past 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.800 and you don't think about them again. Really, apart from 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:13.080 that one, which I'm clearly haunted by. 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.880 And up next Celia's thoughts on if comedy is still 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.400 a man's world and why she doesn't want to represent 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:25.240 all women. When we talk about that, fifteen years so 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.680 not twenty years and don't worry about maths because you're 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:31.000 talking to a journal so we're very bad at maths. 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.400 Here comes fight for all journalists, but for myself it's 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:34.440 pretty bad. Celia. 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:38.720 Over that fifteen years, can I ask how you've seen 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:42.680 some changes in the industry, I think particularly asking you 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:44.840 as a woman. As I mentioned you were the youngest 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:48.520 woman to host the gala for the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:50.800 I would imagine, like a lot of. 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:54.560 Women in industries that are traditionally male dominated, there's been 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.040 a lot of first for you, and even if they're 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.720 not first, often sometimes still in a minority in the room. 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.680 There has been a reckoning in a lot of different 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:07.840 industries in the last ten to fifteen years. There's still 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.520 a perception I think that comedy is a little bit blokey. 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:13.760 What are your observations about that? 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:21.960 I mean, I'm still working, do you know it's I look, 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.120 I don't know it Definitely it's difficult as well, because 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:28.680 i'd say it's better. But I'm at a different point 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.200 that I was, so I'm not walking into rooms the 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.720 same way I was when I was brand new and 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:37.080 I didn't see other women. You know, it was maybe 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:40.240 one other woman and need to cling to each other. 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:42.720 But maybe that's different now at that level, but I'm 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:47.000 not there. It definitely was a thing and is a thing. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:53.040 But I just think we've got such wonderful talent, not 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:56.800 just in this country, in the world. Who are you know, 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.800 getting work? Sure they can always be more, but the 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:05.199 way that I've sort of tried to approach it is 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.480 sort of support each other as much as you can 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:09.640 and be as good as you can do. I get 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:13.919 an extra kick if I'm successful when someone thinks that 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:14.720 I wasn't gonna be. 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.760 Yeah, it's great. Like I used to early. 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:19.280 Date, you know, going to gigs and people go, whose 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.439 boyfriend are you? And then did it feel delicious to 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:23.840 get up on stage and be really funny? 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:24.200 Yes? 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.000 So I like that. And then there's that thing of 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:31.520 sometimes if there's any sort of you know, oh you 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.120 only got this because you're with that kind of stuff, 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:38.120 I always think. But then you it's up to you 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:43.879 to stay there. Whatever advantages there are are outweighed by 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:47.720 the disadvantages there were, if that makes sense. So you 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:49.119 just have to be as good as you can be, 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.679 just be just work as hard as you can be 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:54.960 and as I say, this is the thing is and 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:56.920 in this way, in the same way in comedy is 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:01.520 I don't, I can't and don't want to present all women. 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:04.119 That's what I find in the industry and in this 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:08.320 like on stage. I did feel that back then, which is, 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:13.720 if you're if you're if you're not funny on one gig, 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.480 then all women aren't funny, you know, and it shouldn't 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:18.480 be that way. And in the same way, I'm not 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.439 ever sure how to answer this question because in my experience, 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.560 I've had a six I've managed to have a successful 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.000 career as a woman in comedy. So it's got to 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:31.400 be it's it's Was it hard, Yeah, but I'm sure. 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.680 It's it's it's of course it's hard. 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:35.720 It's comedy. It's a ridiculous way to make a living 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:41.200 with no guarantees and no direct path. So but little 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:44.560 things like, for example, thank god you're here. Fourteen years ago, 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:48.240 it was a male host, uh, and it was generally 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:50.199 three men and a woman going through the door, and 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.119 this last season and this season it's a female host, 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:53.800 and it's. 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:57.240 Always a greater, more diverse cast. 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.359 So yes, in that way, I can that's some that 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:04.320 I can tangibly point to and go that has improved, 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:05.439 and I think that's great. 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:10.840 I agree completely with what you said. It is so true. Ceally, like, if. 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:14.719