1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: On Scorne Lives Australia. It's the Reader Paney Show. 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Riata Panehy Show. 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 3: Coming up tonight the New South Wales liberals in disarray? 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: Will we see a leadership challenge? We'll cross to Chicago 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 3: for the latest from the Democratic National Convention and the 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 3: fallout from Harry and Meghan's tour of poverty stricken Columbia. 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: And as we do each and every night, left He's 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: losing it or joining me? 9 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: No Is Mensis Research Center Senior fellow and also columnists 10 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: with the Australian newspaper, Nick Kita. 11 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: Nick, you're in Hungary this week. Every time I speak 12 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: to you somewhere new. 13 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: But I do want to speak about a column you've 14 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: written for the Australian newspaper warning the Labor government against 15 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 3: its big Australia by stealth push, pointing to the UK 16 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: as an example of why mass migration with minimum controls 17 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: could be a breeding ground for ethnic tensions and social disharmony. 18 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 3: One could argue the Albanesi government is even more reckless 19 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 3: than what we've seen in the UK, given their gaza policy. 20 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 3: Even the UK has been more careful in who they 21 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,639 Speaker 3: let in from that region. 22 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, they certainly have read it. I mean the UK's 23 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 4: big failing is the inability to control their borders. 24 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 5: You know. 25 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 4: They say it's impossible, they say, to stop these small 26 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 4: boats which are dangerously overladen with the asylum seekers crossing 27 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 4: the channel. Whatever happened to the British navy by the way, 28 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 4: I mean, it used to be able to fend off 29 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 4: the Spanish Amatyr or Hitler. Now they can't do with 30 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 4: a few small boats. That's the big problem. One hundred 31 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 4: and twenty five thousand people have come that way in 32 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 4: the last three years, and as I've poured out in 33 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,919 Speaker 4: the column, that is at the heart of this ethnic tension, 34 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 4: there's no other word for it on the streets of Britain. 35 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 4: And the focus in Britain has been on those hotels 36 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 4: that have been taken over to become kind of mini 37 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 4: Christmas Island detention centers right across Britain, more than three 38 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 4: hundred of them, I think. So this is where the 39 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 4: tension lies. And the point about Australia is well yes, 40 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 4: and the alban Ezi is sensibly kept most of the 41 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 4: border protection policies which he opposed of course in opposition, 42 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 4: but he's kept them in place. We do deal with boats, 43 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 4: although there's been some softening as we know some boats 44 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 4: have landed. But on multiple other levels, he's letting the 45 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 4: Australian population down. One on Gaza, letting these people in 46 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: from Gaza who have no idea who they are. And 47 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 4: the other one, of course, allowing dangerous criminals back onto 48 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: the streets, people who should rightly be deported because they're 49 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 4: not Australian citizens. So those two things, I think combined 50 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 4: mean that we are in a terrible place and people 51 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: have completely lost faith in the government's ability to handle migration. 52 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 4: And when that happens, you know, it really is a 53 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 4: very dangerous situation for Australia. 54 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 3: There was no reason for Anthony Albernezi to go against 55 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: every other Western country and bring in thousands of people 56 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: from a region like Gaza that is controlled by her mass. 57 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 3: Why he would do that, why would inflict troubles upon 58 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 3: his own government, is beyond me. You think it'd have 59 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: enough on his plate with the cost of living crisis 60 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 3: that we're tackling at the moment. 61 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got form, though, hasn't he read? I mean, 62 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 4: if you go back into the handside. Do you see 63 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 4: that he was strongly opposed to John Howard's Tampa solution. 64 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 4: He believed that all those asylum seekers on board the 65 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 4: Tampa should be let into Australia and he even accused 66 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: Gary Hargraves, who was in the Member for Morden mild 67 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 4: Manner Gary Hargraves of being a racist for supporting John 68 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 4: Howard's policies on this. So you know it does a 69 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 4: leopard change its spots? I don't think so. I think 70 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 4: at heart he's an out and out open borders, let 71 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 4: them all in lefty. That's what we have in our 72 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 4: Prime minister. He tries to keep them undercover, but not 73 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 4: very well. Right at this moment. 74 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: Now, I want to speak to you about the crisis 75 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: in the New South Wales Liberals in a second. 76 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: But first I saw this public health study from the. 77 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 3: US that was just fascinating, showing that trust in doctors 78 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: and hospitals had decreased substantially over the course of the pandemic. 79 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 3: A fifty state survey of American adults found that in 80 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 3: every sociodemographic group among the four hundred and forty three 81 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: thousand odd unique respondents, trust in physicians and hospitals had 82 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 3: decreased significantly. It's gone from seventy one point five percent 83 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: in April twenty twenty to forty percent in January twenty 84 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: twenty four. And Nick, I'd love to see a similar 85 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 3: study in Australia and the UK and every other place 86 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 3: that went COVID crazy. 87 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 2: I'd say we'd probably get similar results. 88 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: Maybe not as stark as that, but I know a 89 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: lot of people who had great faith in the expert 90 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 3: class in general who now question everything they hear. 91 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a tragic outcome from COVID. It was 92 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 4: always going to happen. I mean some of us wrote 93 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: about it at the time that if you have these 94 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 4: coercive measures, coercive public health policy can work for a 95 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 4: short time, but in the end it undermines trust in 96 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 4: the whole health service and the public health process and 97 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 4: leads to a distrustful population. There's literature on that, there's 98 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: academic studies on that, but all those were ignored. But 99 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 4: I think what's tragic here is we all ought to 100 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 4: be able to trust the advice of our own doctor. 101 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 4: I mean, even I do. I mean, from time to 102 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 4: time you've got to go to him, and you expect 103 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 4: him to know what he's talking about. But unfortunately, doctors 104 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: gps were forced to give one line, and one line only, 105 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: the official public health line, even though I know I 106 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 4: know several doctors, two of whom I consulted, who had 107 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 4: severe doubts about giving the vaccine, particularly to the under 108 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 4: seventy five, so you know, to healthy people under seventy five, 109 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 4: which I'm still I think in that category. They had 110 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 4: severe doubts about that, but they couldn't voice them. 111 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: They had to. 112 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 4: It was almost like a sort of official Soviet line 113 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 4: they had to impose, and they did it very unhappily, 114 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 4: and I think as a result of that, people have 115 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 4: lost trust in their GP, which is really worrying, and 116 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 4: that's where they right from the start, I felt what 117 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 4: they should have said is, you know, here's our public 118 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 4: health guidelines, but go and see a GP. Take his advice, 119 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 4: because he can take into account whether you're seventy five 120 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 4: kilos or one hundred and seventy five, whether there as smoker, 121 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 4: whether or not, all those things. But of course none 122 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 4: of that happened. It was all top down, Dan Andrews 123 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 4: down sort of management, and the doctors had to play 124 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 4: along with it. 125 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it went well beyond the vaccines 126 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 3: and questions about whether they should be essentially mandatory or not. 127 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: I think it was the health effects of. 128 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: The lockdown, the fact that we were told there was 129 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: consensus amongst the medical community that lockdowns were a way 130 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: to go to minimize health risk, when there were plenty 131 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: of experts speaking out, often at great cost to themselves, 132 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: saying no, this is normally not how we handle a 133 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: pandemic by locking up healthy people. In fact, the health 134 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: outcomes could be significantly worse than the long term for all. 135 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: Sorts of things, And yet there was just this. 136 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:43,119 Speaker 3: Censorship and hostility towards anyone who was questioning the official line. 137 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: Now two New South Wales two GB hosts Ray Hadley 138 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: read out private text messages live on air that revealed 139 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 3: just how divided the New South Wales liberals have become. 140 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: Hadley has called on the party to do something to 141 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: stop whining and challenge the moderates running the show. 142 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 6: Let's have a spill, Let's see what happens here, and 143 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 6: let's see if the right have the courage, they might 144 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 6: get beaten by the left, but let's have a bit 145 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 6: of a blue to actually show the electorate to New 146 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 6: South Wales. You people on the right, you know who 147 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 6: I'm talking about. 148 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: You people on the right, have a dig. 149 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 6: Stop sending me text messages, cowardly letting me be your mouthpiece. 150 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 6: Get on the air now and tell the left of 151 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 6: your party you've had a gutfull of them. You know 152 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 6: who you are from the right, Anthony Roberts, Alistair Henskins, 153 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 6: Come on, get on here and challenge them. 154 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: Nick, what do you make of this saga and the 155 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: divisions in the New South Wales libs? 156 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 4: Well, it was always too much for stuff up to 157 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 4: be put down to incompetence, wasn't it. And now what's 158 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 4: coming out is what a lot of us had imagined 159 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 4: all along, that it's incompetence plus factionalism. You know that 160 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 4: we've got done harm Whin as president, who is a 161 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 4: factional player, who, according to these texts from manister Henskins, 162 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 4: was trying to get his own people into the council 163 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 4: nomination slots and that was what held the whole thing up. 164 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 4: All that is absolutely true to form. It's exactly what 165 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 4: happened at the last federal election. As you remember when 166 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 4: Alex Hawk on behalf of the Prime Minister of the 167 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 4: day held up the pre selection process then, because they 168 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 4: wanted to ensure that people friendly to his side of 169 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 4: politics got in. This is the bit about the Liberal Party, 170 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 4: or politics more generally, because it happens across all parties, 171 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 4: including the Greens incidentally, that I find really distasteful. I mean, 172 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 4: a lot of us see politics as the way to 173 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 4: get things done, the way to achieve better outcomes for 174 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 4: the population. But unfortunately there are many people, not all 175 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 4: of them, I used to say, but many people in 176 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 4: politics who have just purely selfish and egotistical reasons to 177 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 4: be in there, to pump up their own tires, to 178 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: boost their own faction, and it's a game for them. 179 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 4: I think this is disgraceful because people vote for parties 180 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 4: to achieve something better in their life, not to mortar 181 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 4: some factional balance in New South Wales. So the sooner 182 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 4: we can read this out of the Liberal Party, if 183 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 4: you can weed it out of the Liberal Party, it 184 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 4: might just be a part of politics the better and 185 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 4: I think, but certainly Don Harwin's position is untenable. 186 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 3: I would have thought it was untenable, but he is 187 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: holding on for dear life. And this is an issue 188 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 3: we've got in the Liberals here in Victoria, We've got 189 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 3: it in New South Wales. I've seen it elsewhere in 190 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: the country where these moderates, if you want to use 191 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: a nicer term than bedwetters or smaller liberals, whatever you 192 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 3: want to call them, they seem to be completely preoccupied 193 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: with defeating conservatives within their own party and that seems 194 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: to be their number one priority above battling labor, battling 195 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: the Greens. Actually I don't know getting elected. It seems 196 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: to be to strip the Liberal Party or any remaining 197 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 3: conservative voices, and I think that is largely behind the 198 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 3: debacle we saw or with that deadline being missed in 199 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: New South Wales. Now, before you go, let's talk about 200 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 3: crime in Queensland, particularly in regional Queensland. 201 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: That the rates have soared and they're exceeding those. 202 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: Of metropolitan areas, with some areas seeing crime four times 203 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: the rate that's in the city type of look at 204 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: the Graftsman ISAs crime rate. 205 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: You look at that compared to. 206 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 3: Say South Brisbane, you've got foury twenty to seven hundred 207 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: and thirteen per hundred thousand people. So a massive difference, 208 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: and the trend has been rising for years across most 209 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: of Queensland. Nick, do you see this as a significant 210 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: issue leading up to the state election. 211 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 4: I think it's a huge issue Reado. I mean, you know, 212 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 4: as you know, law and order is a thing that 213 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 4: people direct their anger largely at the state government when 214 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 4: things aren't going right, and in this case for good reason. 215 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: You know, you've got a progressive leaning, sort of Inner 216 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 4: Brisbane focused government in place that has all those same 217 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 4: sort of defund the police instincts, so that they don't 218 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 4: actually say that as people in Los Angeles, San Francisco 219 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 4: or Minneapolis, so that's where they're coming from. They've got 220 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 4: that ideological bent. Plus you've got the imposition of the 221 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 4: getting rid of the cash list welfare card and the 222 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 4: other dreadful measures that have happened at the federal level 223 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 4: which are causing a lot of these problems out in 224 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 4: place like Mount Isaer and Townsville, and you've just got 225 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 4: a recipe for lawlessness. I think the police clearly need 226 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 4: not only to be better funded, but given a free hand. 227 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 4: We've got to take the handbrakes off the police and 228 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 4: say you get on and do what you used to 229 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 4: do back in the nineteen sixties, and don't worry about 230 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 4: all everything else that's going on. Just just get out 231 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 4: there and keep the streets safe. Queenslanders have a right 232 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 4: to expect that, and the government right now is not 233 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 4: delivering for them. 234 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: Nick Kaita, thank you so much for your time this evening. 235 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: Joining me now is journalists and documentary filmmaker Army Horowitz. 236 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: Day three of the Democratic National Convention has seen everyone 237 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 3: from Stevie Wonder to Oprah to Nancy Poise and Bill 238 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 3: Clinton spake. Old Bill made a point to attack Donald 239 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 3: Trump on foreign policy. Army, how impactful has the DNC 240 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 3: been in reaching undecided voters or those who are not 241 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: particularly politically engaged. 242 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, traditionally you always get a bit of a 243 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 7: bump after your convention. I think that I'll probably be 244 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 7: a little bit blunted by the fact that she's already 245 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 7: kind of sugar high after the coup against Joe Biden. 246 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 7: So I think there'll be a little bit of a bump, 247 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 7: not much. I mean, the truth is the numbers, maybe 248 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 7: seven percent of the country are watching on average the 249 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 7: DNC every night. That's seven percent of the most politically 250 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 7: engaged people that exist in the country. So I don't 251 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 7: think it's a matter a whole lot when it comes independent. 252 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 7: But the fact is that you made me do prep 253 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 7: by watching Pelosi and Bill Clinton's speeches and rita. That's 254 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 7: thirty five minutes I'm not getting back. 255 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: So I'm a little bit peeved at you, to be honest. 256 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: But you know, look, there's a bunch of takeaways. Yeah, 257 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: looks what I do for eleven l It's fine. 258 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 7: I think it's a couple of interesting takeaways on that. 259 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 7: First of all, there's this narrative now that you're hearing, right. 260 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 7: The narrative initially was Joe Biden is one hundred percent fine, 261 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 7: Joe Biden is the top of his game. Well, the 262 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 7: new Democratic talking point is, oh, we are so thankful 263 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 7: to Joe Biden for stepping down and allowing this to 264 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 7: take Are you kidding me? 265 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelogi shipped. 266 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 7: Him in the back, right, which is going on about 267 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 7: how great Joe Biden, how wonderfully was stepping down. He too, Pelosi, 268 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 7: That's exactly how this went down. 269 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: You know, it's so weird. 270 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 7: And of course, can you feel the joy, right, can 271 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 7: you feel the happiness? Yeah, it's all good vibes. You know, 272 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 7: the left are the most unhappy people I've ever seen 273 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 7: in my life. You know, when somebody says joy, feel 274 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 7: the joy, too often you have to wonder if. 275 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: They really actually mean it. So, yeah, look, it is 276 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: what it is. Traditionally you get a little bit of 277 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: a bump from this. 278 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 7: I think she'll get a little bit, but this is 279 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 7: really the this is her high right, It's not going 280 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 7: to get better than this for her, and it's really 281 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 7: still within spinning range. 282 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: So if I'm the Trump campaign, I'm actually pretty happy 283 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: with where I am. 284 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: Well, you're right about the fake joy. I've been watching 285 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: more than forty five minutes. I've been watching the whole 286 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: thing daily, and there's a lot of anger there. 287 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: There's a lot of attacks. 288 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 3: There's a lot of talk about unity and happiness and 289 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: joy and bringing the country together, but then they spend 290 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: so much time attacking half the country, and that ugliness 291 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: is outside the venue as well. Well, it's fact far 292 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 3: worse you've been in the midst of it. Those protests 293 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: continue outside the DNC in the streets of Chicago. 294 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: Police are now having to sharp in enormous numbers. 295 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: There was a counter protests a group of pro Israeli 296 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: activists and that had to be protected army because the 297 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 3: so called Love and Tolerance Brigade wanted to attack them. 298 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 3: You've seen a lot of this with your own eyes. 299 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: What is the mood like in the streets there? 300 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't just see it, Rita. 301 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 7: I felt that when these thugs were wrestling with me 302 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 7: after my little stunt with them. Actually, truth, I don't 303 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 7: blame them, you know. First of all, I want to 304 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 7: say something. They're such litter bugs. I can't I have 305 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 7: photos of the amount of trash these people leave. All 306 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 7: their signs are left on the streets. They can to 307 00:16:54,520 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 7: clean up after themselves, Rita, It's horrible. No, there's there's yeah, 308 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 7: there's no good vibes. 309 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: There's no joy among these people. 310 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 7: These are not people who are going to get Kamala's support, 311 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 7: despite the fact that she is cow telling to them, 312 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 7: despite the fact that Joe Biden says they have a. 313 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: Point, like they can try to bend the knee as. 314 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 7: Much as they want to these animals, they are simply 315 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 7: not going to support them. And look, you know what, 316 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 7: there's a bunch of Jewish groups within the DNC who've 317 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 7: had meetings. They've had to have these meetings in secret. 318 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 7: Literally they can announce where these meetings are because they're 319 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 7: afraid of physical violence from the hard left. That's what's 320 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 7: going on, as opposed to the RNC, where Jewish people 321 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 7: on stage saying bring the hostages back. They are vetted 322 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 7: in the RNC, but the DNC they're like Maran, They're 323 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 7: like the Moranos. They have to live in hiding among 324 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 7: the Democrats because of violence. 325 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing. 326 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 3: He did give a good speech today, but he should 327 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: pay VP. Anyone with any sense can see he is 328 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: the most Well, he's a natural choice. Is the governor, 329 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: very popular governor of Pennsylvania, a state that she needs 330 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: to win if she's going to prevail. And to overlook him, 331 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 3: essentially to appease those anti Israeli segments of the party 332 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 3: I think is absolutely shameful. And there is a lot 333 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 3: of division in the Democrats there trying to present this 334 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 3: picture of one big, happy family and united, but Biden's 335 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: obviously angry. He's not even there, he's not talking to 336 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi. It's going to be interesting to see these rifts, 337 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 3: and someone's going to write the story one day about 338 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: how that coup happened. Who made the final call? Was 339 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 3: it Nancy Pelosi? Was it Barack Obama? Was he threatened 340 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: with that was a twenty. 341 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: Five the amendment? Will we one day know how it 342 00:18:59,000 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: all happened? 343 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 5: Me? 344 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 7: It's yes, yes, and yes, yes, it is all of 345 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 7: those things. I mean, yeah, they're they're they're definitely trying 346 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 7: to make it a happy, go lucky We're all one 347 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 7: big family. I know that watching CNN's coverage and MSNBC's 348 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 7: coverage of this, of the d n C, they certainly. 349 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 1: Are putting on a happy face. They're talking about how 350 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: wonderful Tim waltzs was, what a great choice it was. 351 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 7: It was a massive unforced error by Kamala and the 352 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 7: Democratic Party to to to pass over Jos Shapiro, who 353 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 7: may have given them the election, like you said, because 354 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 7: really the ballgame is Pennsylvania. 355 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: You ever wins Pennsylvania is gonna win this election. 356 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 7: He's he's incredibly popular in Pennsylvania, and and they chose. 357 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: Uh, let's again, let's be honest. 358 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 7: Uh, this is a far leftist uh wack a doodle 359 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 7: who supports people who are who have who have made 360 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 7: stated support for October seventh, Right, this is the guy. 361 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 7: This is a guy who has said who trying to 362 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 7: push through an agenda of taking children away from their 363 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 7: parents who are transgenderal. 364 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: And by the way, that's a real thing. 365 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 7: I know that the Democratic Party and the media carrying 366 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 7: their water trying to say it's fake news. 367 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: It's not fake news. I went into it. 368 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 7: That's exactly what the courts we're going to be in 369 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 7: bold to do. There was a massive mistake, and I think, look, 370 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 7: if she loses, I think we can go back and 371 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 7: point that and say that might have been the reason 372 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 7: why she end up losing. 373 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 3: Well, not only is he a far left socialist and 374 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 3: he's proud of the socialist tag, but you know, putting 375 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 3: tampons in boys restrooms throughout schools. 376 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: But he's a governor of a state. 377 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: That doesn't matter. So how she could have made that 378 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: call is beyond me. And if it costs her the election, 379 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 3: well there'll be a few books. 380 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: Written about that. 381 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: Now. 382 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: Donald Trump held his first outdoor rally since the assassination 383 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: attempt on his life just over a month ago. He 384 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 3: appeared behind bulletproof glass alongside his running mate JD. 385 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: Vance. This is a sad development army. 386 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 3: It's necessary obviously in the current environment, particularly when you've 387 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: got the Democrats on mass calling him a threat to 388 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 3: democracy and a threat to the future of the Republic. 389 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: But to say him behind that glass, I think it's 390 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 3: an indictment on the current state of things in the US. 391 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 7: It's in particular indictment of the Democratic Party in the 392 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 7: left right, because you don't see Joe Biden or Kamala 393 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 7: Harris having a hide behind plexiglass and bulletproof glass. 394 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: I think it's a hallmark of the left. 395 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 7: I did a video where I walked around the day 396 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 7: after the assassination attempt asking people in New York how 397 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 7: they felt about it, and the vast majority of people 398 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 7: I spoke to felt it was a lost opportunity. 399 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: They hoped he was killed, They wish he was killed. 400 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, look, I mean, I don't want to waste the 401 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 7: time of your audience going through the list of left 402 00:21:54,920 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 7: as violence. But Steve Scalise, Congressman, Republican congressman was shot 403 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 7: by Bernie Sander supporters at a cogrecial baseball game. Uh 404 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 7: Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh assassination attempt in his home, and 405 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 7: of course Donald Trump. 406 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: This is a hallmark of the left. They use violence 407 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: as political means. This is nothing new. 408 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 7: I think can go historically and look at the left 409 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 7: and see that they use violence because the only way 410 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 7: they get their agenda pushed across. 411 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: It's a problem. 412 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 7: I'm not saying that there's no violence on the right whatsoever, 413 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 7: but if we look at modern day history, we can 414 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 7: see the majority of it's coming from the hard left. 415 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 7: Not again, not left of center democrats, but hard left 416 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 7: people who are part of the democratic constituency. 417 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: This is where most of the violence is coming from. 418 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 2: We're being honest, Amy Horwitz, thank you so much for 419 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: your time. 420 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: This savening always a pleasure. 421 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 2: Reader still to come. I left lazing it and Canadians 422 00:22:53,520 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 2: c I. Vaughn and Donald Trump discussed welcome back. 423 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: Now it's time for lefties losing it. Let's have a 424 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: look at some of the insanity on the streets of 425 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 3: Chicago from anti American left is. Watch here as a 426 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 3: lone man tries to stop the American flag being set 427 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 3: alight as masked maniacs scream in his face. 428 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 7: Not on florry. 429 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: They did burn the flag. 430 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 3: They don't just hate Trump and Conservatives, they hate Israel. 431 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 3: They hate America, they hate Western civilization, but at least 432 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: they're open about their far left lunacy. 433 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: Inside the they're trying to pretend they're. 434 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 3: Just like the rest of the country. They're even playing 435 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 3: country music. But the only thing that really unites these 436 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: people is a hatred of their political opponents. Watch as 437 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 3: this transactivist is given the mic to announce the new 438 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 3: Jersey delegates are back in Kamala, but instead he goes 439 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 3: on some pronoun announcing anti Trump rant instead. 440 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 8: My name is doctor Joey Brolla pronounced she her hers. 441 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm a crowd president of a garden. 442 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: See. 443 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 7: I'm prod stand with Doubla Harris and Tim Wall because 444 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 7: they stand with the LGBTQ community. 445 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 5: It's time to turn the page on Trump hurt. 446 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, dude, you had one job. It wasn't that. 447 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: Now. 448 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 3: Let's look at the sort of projection and hypocrisy that 449 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 3: the DNC provides and I'll take your breath away. Let's 450 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 3: start with former First Lady Michelle Obama talking about the 451 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 3: Republicans being against children. But really she's talking here about 452 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 3: Republicans being against children who are being transitioned with dangerous irreversible. 453 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 9: Treatments, demonizing our children for being who they are and 454 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 9: loving who they love. Look, that doesn't make anybody's life better. 455 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 3: And here Michelle talks about how bad greedy is, how 456 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 3: you should be suspicious of those who want more than 457 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: their share. But thanks to Daily Wire for reminding us 458 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 3: of the wealth Michelle and Baraque have accumulated. 459 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 9: She and my father didn't aspire to be wealthy. In fact, 460 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 9: they were suspicious of folks who took more than they needed. 461 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 3: She paid more than one thousand dollars for those shoes 462 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 3: that pay that much, never to see them again. 463 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 2: They're all full. 464 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: But while they're pretending to be all about jaw and positivity, 465 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 3: Baraka Michelle Obama did again push the politics of envy, grievance, 466 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: racial division, and to top it off, we had the 467 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 3: entire DNC chanting for the political class to do something, 468 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 3: do something. 469 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: The Democrats are in power. 470 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: The Biden Harris administration is running the show. 471 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: Do they forget that? 472 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 3: Indeed, the Democrats have been in power for twelve of 473 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 3: the last sixteen years, and yet they decry the state 474 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 3: of the country, the division, the economy. 475 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: It's all on them. 476 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: But the media has their new talking point, and the 477 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: word of the day is electric. 478 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 10: And it was though someone had plugged in a cable, 479 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 10: a current was connected and there was pure electricity. 480 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 3: In the room. 481 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing with us some of the electricity. 482 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: The energy is incredibly electric. 483 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: You know it was just electric. 484 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 7: That's sort of electric because I've ever seen it. 485 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: It was absolutely electric. 486 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 7: Well, talk to you about the atmosphere in here is 487 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 7: an electric excitement bait. 488 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 5: It is electric. 489 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 7: Senator Schumer wasn't lying when he was saying that there's 490 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,239 Speaker 7: a lot of electricity and excitement right now. So it's 491 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 7: incredibly electric. 492 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 8: It's electric. 493 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 2: Something just got uncorked. 494 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: Room in Chicago quite electric today. 495 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 11: Last night was electric. 496 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 2: It'll be electric, electrifying the electrification. 497 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 5: There was electricity in this room. 498 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 3: That is preferable to Van Jones on CNN, almost crying 499 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 3: after hearing the Obamas speak. 500 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 2: Dude, get a gramp. 501 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,479 Speaker 12: I didn't know how much I missed missed them. 502 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 5: I missed them. 503 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 12: I missed that, I miss hearing that this was a 504 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 12: masterful act of leadership. 505 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 5: It was a sacred task. 506 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: They took it on. 507 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 12: Well, it was like an oasis. I didn't realize I 508 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 12: had been in a spiritual desert until they created that 509 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 12: oasis on that stage, and they did a beautiful job tonight. 510 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 3: Oh my mind, dude, you need those around you to 511 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 3: tell you to stop talking seriously now, just a shame 512 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 3: saying and didn't interview this next guy. The BBC did, 513 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 3: but that don't think they knew that he was actually 514 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 3: a conservative mocking the lefties losing it. 515 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 10: Well, brought you on a erdy No listen, my name 516 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 10: is no source a uten pronouns. 517 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: Like, I'm just really excited. 518 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 10: How we have like the first black woman that could 519 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 10: be the president of the United States. And you know, 520 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 10: like my wife right, we're in a polyad resatip the 521 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 10: lover that my wife took as African American, and like, 522 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 10: I've learned so much about the struggle that people of 523 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 10: color go through as a. 524 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 9: Result of my wife's boyfriend. 525 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 10: And so I'm excited to really do my partin soo 526 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 10: dog erny my marginalized community, and like about why to 527 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 10: do that is to get the first woman of color. 528 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: To be That's a commander achievement. 529 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 4: I'm really excited. 530 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: I'm so fussed, And let's end lefties with Hollywood has 531 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: been a DNC fanboy Mark Hamill. 532 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: He has a message for the nation, and get ready 533 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: to cringe hard. 534 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 5: Well in the movies, I thought against make believe evil, 535 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 5: or at a time in our history we were fighting 536 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 5: against real evil. 537 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: So I beg you please don't go into the Ora 538 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: eas side. And we have plenty more lefties losing it with. 539 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: My next guest joining me now is Sky News contributor 540 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 3: Kosher Gator Kosher. We've had Bill Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, and 541 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 3: Oprah speak at the Democratic National Convention. 542 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 9: Carmen Sense tells you that Kamala Harris and Tim Walltz 543 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 9: can give us decency. Let's all choose Kamala Harrah. 544 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: Now Kosher. 545 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 3: Oprah isn't the figure she used to be, but she 546 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 3: still has a massive following amongst a certain demographic. You're 547 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 3: sort of your middle aged female demographic. Will her presence there, 548 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 3: her endorsement mean much to the electorate. 549 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 13: You know, she's definitely past her peak. When her show 550 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 13: was airing about a decade ago, she was getting fifty 551 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 13: five million viewers from that key demographic. She's past that peak, 552 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 13: but she still does have real star power in that group, 553 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 13: and one of the most ascendant segments for the Democrat 554 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 13: party is single women above the age of forty. I 555 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 13: was looking at this the other day. They vote seventy 556 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 13: two percent for the Democrat. That's the most monolithic voting 557 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 13: pattern outside. 558 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 11: Of African America. 559 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 13: So if Sarah unmarried, unmarried, interesting married women, it's actually 560 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 13: much closer split and they lean slightly. 561 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 11: Republican, but unmarried women over forty. 562 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 13: How much of those people today Oprah's reaching I don't know, 563 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 13: But even if she turns a little bit of them, 564 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 13: that is very powerful. 565 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 3: But then that is the demographic that is already backing 566 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 3: the backing the Democrats strongly. 567 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 11: So does she move the needle more for them? Exactly? 568 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 3: For the undecided, for those who are perhaps not politically engaged, 569 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 3: that's gonna be the question now. Just about everyone who's 570 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 3: taken to the d NC stage has played the victim 571 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: to a certain extent, but none as much as Michelle 572 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,479 Speaker 3: Obama I, who had a lot to say, a lot 573 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 3: of victim playing, a lot of angry attacks against Trump, 574 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: and a lot of racial politics. 575 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 9: Unfortunately, we know what comes next. We know folks are 576 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 9: gonna do everything they can to distort her truth. My 577 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 9: husband and I sadly know a little something about this. 578 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 9: For years, Donald Trump did everything in his power to 579 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 9: try to make people fear us. 580 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: See his limited, narrow view of the world. 581 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 9: Made him feel threatened by the existence of two hard 582 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 9: work and highly educated, successful people who happened to be black. 583 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 3: It's a little bit rich for Barack and Michelle Obama 584 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 3: to play the victim and what do you mean kosher 585 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 3: of the do something chant that Michelle started That was 586 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 3: very interesting because the Democrats are in power, do the 587 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 3: people there seem to have forgotten that fairly critical fact. 588 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 13: Seems to be And it feels like this election isn't 589 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 13: about two candidates or even the Republican Party versus the 590 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 13: Democrat Party. It's between reality and illusion because they're creating 591 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 13: this illusion as. 592 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 11: Though they're not the ones in power. They're not the incumbents. 593 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 13: And basically, Barack Obama had eight years his VP, Joe 594 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 13: Biden has had another four years, and there was just 595 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 13: a four year blip of Trump in the middle, so 596 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 13: they've had the reins for a long time. Look, I 597 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 13: think we all support people pulling up their bootstraps and 598 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 13: making something of their lives. 599 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 11: So that's a good thing about the Obamas. 600 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 13: But it is a little bit rich to then try 601 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 13: to cast themselves as these downtrodden people are speaking for 602 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 13: the downtrodden people when they report them there worth seventy 603 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 13: million dollars. 604 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 11: Good for them. 605 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 3: These issues that have with the country, all the things 606 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 3: that aren't the way they should be, and they're going 607 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 3: to change under a Harris administration. Well, like you've explained, 608 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 3: twelve of the last sixteen years, Democrats have been in power. 609 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 3: So if there's problems within the country, we know where 610 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 3: we're coming from exactly now. Michelle Obama also shared sentiments 611 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 3: about how rich people take more than they need and 612 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 3: you should be distrustful of those sort of people. But 613 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 3: this is a woman who earned seven hundred thousand euros 614 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 3: for one hour speech at a forum in Germany. And 615 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 3: they're bambas of enormous wealth, a lot of it from 616 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 3: being in public life. And whatever you think of Trump, 617 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 3: he hasn't made his money from the taxpayer. 618 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: For sure. 619 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 13: So they had a little stint Barack Obama and the 620 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 13: State Senate and then a little bit in the United 621 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 13: States Senate and then parlead that into the presidency and 622 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 13: on the back of that seventy million dollars reportedly is 623 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 13: there net worth Again, good for them, we celebrate that 624 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 13: there are questions about how they made that money, which 625 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 13: is interesting on the back of being public figures. But 626 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 13: I think that's actually a sign of just the times 627 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 13: we live in, where celebrity in every sphere, even in politics, 628 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 13: gets rewarded and have in contrast that to somebody like 629 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 13: Ulysses s Ground eighteenth president won the Civil War, he 630 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 13: was abrown Lincoln's general and he died penniless. 631 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, at different times than versus. 632 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 3: And it was interesting because Trump talked about he being 633 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 3: a billionaire donated his presidential salary, and he thought that 634 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 3: given so many presidents have been relatively wealthy over the years, 635 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 3: they would have done the same, but no one had 636 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 3: until the which was surprising in itself. Now, while the 637 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 3: DNC is underway, Kamala Harris is busy campaigning. She held 638 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 3: a rally about nineteen miles away from the Dancy Venue Milwaukee, 639 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 3: where she again decry the state of the economy as 640 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 3: if she's not part of the current administration. 641 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 8: We believe in the future where we lower the cost 642 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 8: of living for America's families, and when I am president, 643 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 8: I will bring down the cost of groceries by making 644 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 8: sure markets are competitive and fair. 645 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 3: This tactic is working, but how long will the media 646 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 3: allow her to divorce herself from her own past and 647 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 3: from her own legacy as vice president and everything that 648 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 3: came before it, because she is almost campaigning as if 649 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 3: she's the challenger. 650 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 13: Until the bitter end. Unfortunately, I think they're going to 651 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 13: continue to provide cover for her. As we said, this 652 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 13: election is about reality versus illusion. You know, people may 653 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 13: like Trump personally, may like his policies or they may not, 654 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 13: but you know what they are. You know what he 655 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 13: stands for and the vision that he proposes, and on 656 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 13: the side, it is a bit of an illusion and 657 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 13: chameleon like nature. I also found it interesting that she's 658 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 13: doubling down on the price caps because that was the 659 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 13: one instance of first policy proposal she put out and 660 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 13: it was widely panned, even via the left leaning media, 661 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 13: And she's doubling down on going after the grocery stores 662 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 13: that have one to two percent margins, and I find 663 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 13: that interesting. 664 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 3: It's bizarre, but I think she feels so that bulletproof 665 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 3: because so much of the press she's getting is overwhelmingly positive. 666 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 2: She's getting a lot more coverage than Trump at the moment, 667 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 2: so I think she's thinking the stats are in her 668 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 2: favor now. 669 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 3: While the Democrats and Kamala try to rewrite history with 670 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 3: the help of the media, Donald Trump is chatting with 671 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 3: a range of popular personalities, comics, podcasters, and one who 672 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 3: has an enormous following a very unique character is Theo 673 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 3: Vaughn and I'm going to say Kocha. 674 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 2: Their chat was fascinating. Listen to this exchange. 675 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 3: Between wild Child, THEO and Donald Trump, who has never 676 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 3: touched a drop of alcohol. 677 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 2: They're discussing here cocaine. 678 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 5: Well, no, I would just do cocaine. That was really yeah. 679 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 5: So yeah, that's down and dirty. Yeah, and this is yeah, this, 680 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 5: I mean it was, yeah, but you don't anymore. Now 681 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 5: I don't do it anymore, man, And I'm not doing 682 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 5: Is it too much? Too much to Some of the 683 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 5: stuff started to get a real rattle in it too. 684 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 5: I don't know where we were even getting it from 685 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 5: in this country. By it, yeah, it started to make 686 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 5: me feel like I was a mechanic or so. The 687 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 5: thing you go back to. 688 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 14: Then it's alcohol for the most part. 689 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 5: Right, yeah, but what I want probably is cocaine. But 690 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 5: I know that if I have a drink then it'll 691 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 5: give me. It'll like be like, Okay, well I had 692 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 5: a drink, then I can do this. 693 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 14: Is cocaine a stronger? Oh yep, yeah, yeah yeah, So 694 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 14: you're way up with cocaine more than anything else you 695 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 14: can think of. 696 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 5: Okain, I'll turn you into a damn our or homie, 697 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. It'll you'll be You'll be 698 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 5: out on your own porch. You know, you'll be your 699 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 5: own street lamp. You're freaking and is that a good feeling? Well, 700 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 5: it's a more miserable feeling, but you do it anyway, 701 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 5: just like the guy you're saying with the Scotch. 702 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 3: I would encourage you to watch. The whole thing is 703 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 3: just a fascinating discussion. They talked about all sorts of 704 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 3: other things, the economy, Harris, But I think we shouldn't 705 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 3: underestimate the power of those sorts of interactions, because the 706 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 3: reach these people have is enormous. Whether you're talking about 707 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 3: Joe or that Elon Musk chat he did last week, 708 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 3: or Theovonne, the millions and millions will say that it's 709 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 3: two things, reach and range that these conversations and formats 710 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 3: provide and it is tens of millions of people. 711 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 13: Theovon Aiden ross he did who was a streamer a 712 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 13: couple of weeks ago, and these are people the mainstream 713 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 13: consultants and advisors probably have no idea who they are. 714 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 13: And it's going after people that now are old enough 715 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 13: to vote. I don't know how many people from that 716 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 13: age group from their followership it will turn out, but 717 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 13: it could and an a raiser thin margin election. That's 718 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 13: really smart high ROI doesn't cost him too much time 719 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 13: or money to do these interviews, and you do see 720 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 13: the range of the discussion. To your point, it was 721 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 13: his conversational skills trumps are quite underrated because what makes 722 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 13: him a good conversationalist is empathy. People don't say that 723 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 13: about him, but you could see it their empathy and 724 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 13: curiosity where he's a complete. 725 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 3: Curiosity was k there, kay he And you see that 726 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 3: with some of the chats where he's having where you 727 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 3: really a surprise someone of his age and you know, 728 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 3: being a billionaire and being sort. 729 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 11: Of genuinely interested in what if he and that was 730 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 11: really unexpected. 731 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 3: I think in many it wasn't all judgment where you 732 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,479 Speaker 3: would expect, particularly someone who's a non drinker, it would 733 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 3: be a bit more judgmental of that discussion and the 734 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 3: over one, I think a lot a lot of other 735 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 3: enormously successful and influential personality personalities like Joe Rogan, Ella Musk. 736 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 3: They were from the left, they were Democrats and they've 737 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 3: kind of been red pelled. And in this discussion they 738 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,320 Speaker 3: did talk about Bernie Sanders and how the Democrats have 739 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 3: treated him. 740 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 5: Dude, I got so angry when they sidetracked Bernie a 741 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 5: few years ago. Or that wasn't fair to Bernie twice? Yeah, 742 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 5: you got to think about it. Yeah, oh it was crazy, yeah, 743 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 5: twenty sixteen, twenty two, he just got you know, it 744 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 5: just wasn't cool. Like whatever you think. It's just like 745 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 5: we have to be able to believe. 746 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: Do you like Bernie? 747 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 14: Is he Are you friends with him? 748 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 5: I'd met him the other day, I was the first time. 749 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 14: Were you rest by him? I? 750 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? 751 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 14: One thing, he's so sharp, right, oh yeah. He doesn't 752 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 14: suffer from what Biden did. No, no, no, now mental dullness. Yeah, right, mentally. 753 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 3: And it's interesting because now that the Democrats have a 754 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 3: younger candidate, they're trying to paint Trump as having cognitive 755 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 3: decline and getting confused and not being physically mentally. 756 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 11: Fit for the job. 757 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 3: They've switched that up real quick. And he's significantly older 758 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 3: than Harris. Do you think that's going to be an 759 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,479 Speaker 3: issue coming to the poll? 760 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 13: They're trying that because you're right, just based on the 761 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 13: sheer facts, there's a twenty year difference between them. But 762 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 13: I think everybody knows that not all eighty year olds 763 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 13: are alike, and even Bernie versus Biden or Trump versus Biden. 764 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 11: So I'm not sure how. 765 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 13: Much I'll make make a difference to the people that 766 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 13: ultimately come out, but it is a tactic that they're trying, 767 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 13: and I think the bigger difference it makes has taken 768 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 13: away one line of attack that the Trump campaign had, 769 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 13: and now he's prosecuting the keys in that clip over 770 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 13: there against Biden's age, and that's great. Do it, But 771 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 13: then I think pivot quickly to prosecuting the Kese Againstkhma. 772 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 3: And they can do it if she avoids interviews and 773 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 3: press conferences, because when she's off the script, she's as ditsy. 774 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 2: As they come. Koshagator, thank you so much for your time. 775 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 2: This evening still to come. 776 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 3: Hollywood's most unlikable couple announced their split and why are 777 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 3: Colombians I write about. 778 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 2: The cost of Harry and Meghan's tour. 779 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 3: Of the impoverished country, watching the Reader Panehy Show and 780 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 3: joining me now is Entertainment and royal reporter Kinsey Schofield 781 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 3: its official Kinsey Benefit is over again. Jennifer Lopez has 782 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 3: filed for divorce from Ben Affleck two years after they 783 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 3: were married and two decades after they were first engaged. 784 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 3: And the date she chose to follow those papers I 785 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,240 Speaker 3: think made a bit of a statement. 786 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 787 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 15: Absolutely, It was the second anniversary of their wedding in Georgia. 788 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,919 Speaker 15: Page six reports that sources close to Jennifer Lopez says 789 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 15: she specifically filed for divorce from Ben Affleck. Rumors were 790 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 15: that he was prepared to do it to show that 791 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 15: she's a woman standing up on her own. Several outlets 792 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 15: have reported that Ben Affleck did not want to fix 793 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 15: this marriage despite her efforts, and Daily Mail quoted a 794 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 15: friend saying he was impossible to be married to. He 795 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 15: is selfish, sullen and negative. She was constantly trying to 796 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 15: lift his spirits, boost him up. 797 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 11: It was exhausting. 798 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 15: Eventually, the negativity was overwhelming, and after months of gossip 799 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 15: that Jen found humiliating, she went ahead and called it quits. 800 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we've been talking about this for months. It 801 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 3: seems like everyone's known this marriage was doomed. 802 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 2: I don't know. They both seem particularly unpleasant if you 803 00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 2: ask me. 804 00:42:59,440 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: Now. 805 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 3: Few celebrities have been appearing at the Democratic National Convention. 806 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 3: We've had Oprah, Little John, Stevie Wonder. But in addition 807 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 3: to the celebrities, the DNCS credentialed more than two hundred 808 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 3: influences and content creators for the event. Some of the 809 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 3: traditional journalists are not happy about this. Some are whining 810 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 3: about the working conditions being terrible, then being sort of 811 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 3: relegated to the cheap seats. 812 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 2: Tell me about this. 813 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 3: Why are the Democrats replacing activist journalists with activist content creators? 814 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 15: I mean, the fast answer is desperation, But I mean, 815 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 15: anyone that watches Left is losing it knows why this 816 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 15: is such a risk. How much due diligence went into 817 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:54,720 Speaker 15: researching the two hundred content creators invited? In prioritizing influencers 818 00:43:54,760 --> 00:44:00,280 Speaker 15: with no journalism background or guidelines feels hyper irresponsible White 819 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 15: House correspondents are shoved in a dark corner. Influencers are 820 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 15: running around taking selfies with high profile democrats, living their 821 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 15: best lives with no journalistic integrity. I mean, we used 822 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 15: to be the greatest country in the world and now 823 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 15: we're throwing hearties for Harris parties at the DNC. Jesus 824 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 15: take the wheel. 825 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 2: Well, I did I think it was Monday. 826 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 3: We looked at some of these influences, and the DNC 827 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 3: themselves their official account, they put out a list of 828 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 3: these influences that are going to be there, and some 829 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 3: of the ones that were promoting are just radically fringe, dwelling, 830 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,720 Speaker 3: questionable characters. So they're lucky that they've got the media 831 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 3: on side, otherwise there might be a little bit of 832 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 3: scrutiny on this. Now let's switch to Harry and Meghan 833 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 3: and the tour of poverty stricken Columbia. Politicians have been 834 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 3: left furious at the cost of this quasi royal tur 835 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 3: you are. Harry and Meghan have spent millions on security alone, 836 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 3: seven hundred thousand dollars a day on heavily police soldiers, helicopters, 837 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 3: and the Colombian politician Andreas Escobar has accused the vice 838 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:20,280 Speaker 3: president there, who invited the Sussexes, of squandering public money 839 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 3: on vanity. Goodness, may this tour again questionable? 840 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 2: What are they doing? They're not working royals? What are 841 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 2: they doing touring in poverished countries? Kinsey? 842 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 15: I mean he also said taxes were spent on rich 843 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 15: white people for photo opportunities in social media. 844 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 11: And really he's not. 845 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 15: Don't tell Megan that exactly. Yeah, she doesn't, but you 846 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 15: would not like that. But it does feel like it's 847 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 15: all just a PR stunt. Columbia provided a fourteen car 848 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 15: convoy and ballistic briefcase to shield them from bullets. The 849 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 15: Daily Mail reported that three thousand police followed the couple's 850 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 15: every move quote despite barely anyone turning up to see them, 851 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 15: and most locals had no idea who they were. One 852 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 15: individual hired to perform for them she was a singer, 853 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,320 Speaker 15: asked one of the reporters, who is Megan? This was 854 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 15: clearly the VP in Columbia and the Sussex is trying 855 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 15: to put themselves on the map. And what a waste 856 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 15: of resources. 857 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: Oh? 858 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And you've got a question the Sussex's judgment in 859 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 3: doing these tours. I know it keeps them in the 860 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 3: papers in America and the UK, and somehow that's what 861 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 3: they want. Despite telling us they were leaving the Royals 862 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 3: to have this private life and not be under media scrutiny, 863 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 3: they seem to be doing everything in their power to 864 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 3: be in the media, to be getting coverage. What good 865 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,439 Speaker 3: came out of this tour, I don't know. But while 866 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 3: we're talking about their tour of Columbia, Meghan told a 867 00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 3: panel discussion titled Afro Descendant Women and Power Voice of 868 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 3: Equity that her daughter has found her voice, and she's 869 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 3: found her voice as an empowered woman of color. 870 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 2: She's a straight kinsey. 871 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 15: Well find me a three year old that hasn't found 872 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 15: their voice screaming their heads off on the playground. But 873 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 15: I found this one of the references as she was 874 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 15: leading into this. I found it almost a slight to 875 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 15: the Royal family. She said, I know how it feels 876 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 15: when you don't utilize your voice when you need to 877 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 15: be heard or have something to say. Think back to 878 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,800 Speaker 15: that Oprah Winfrey quote silent or silenced, you know, So 879 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 15: it's almost like she's bringing that up again. Meanwhile, every 880 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 15: time she does open her mouth. It's the same unverifiable story. 881 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 15: We hear you loud and clear, Megan, you hated Procter 882 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 15: and Gamble's dish soap commercials because assuming women spend a 883 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 15: significant amount of time in the kitchen is sexist. Now 884 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 15: tell us all about your new cooking show. Does it 885 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 15: take place in a kitchen? The hypocrisy astounds. 886 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 887 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 3: She's just desperately looking for victimhood wherever she can find her. 888 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 3: KINSI Scofield, thank you so much for your time this evening, 889 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 3: and that's it from me. Up next is Newsnight. I'll 890 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 3: see you tomorrow. At nine point thirty four left. He's 891 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 3: losing it.