1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: You are on the air with Jason Lauren. Clint's here 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: as well, Jason Lawrence. 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: One of our favorite segments we do on this show 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: is chat with different members of the Victoria Police. We 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 2: got the top cop in this morning, Chief Commissioner Mike Bush. 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back, good morning. 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 3: Good morning, Welcome morning, Chief. 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 4: You're officially a friend of the show. 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 3: Yeah twice, thank you, Lauren. 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: We must get in some merch. A third time you 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: get a hat in the car spot. It's how it 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: works around. 13 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 5: Normally we sit down when we do the show. But 14 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 5: when you walked in and said, all stand for me too, 15 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 5: we're all we're all standing to attention, Mike. 16 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: Big announcement from the Victoria Police yesterday. You've been in 17 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 2: the top job now for three months. You rolled out 18 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: a massive change yesterday. You're getting, from what I understand, 19 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: you're getting our cops off the desk, do on paperwork 20 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: and back on the street, which is what we need. 21 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: That's a big part of it. So it's taken me 22 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: three months to have a good look around stand what 23 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: the environment looks like, what the opportunities look like. But 24 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 3: it's glaringly obvious we need to get cops out of 25 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: stations and on the street preventing crime and responding to 26 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: calls for service. 27 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 4: So who does all that back end stuff? 28 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: We're going to have a way. We've got a lot 29 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 3: of other capable people who can do that. So we've 30 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 3: got police custody officers who will work next door. We've 31 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: got public servant staff more than capable of doing that stuff. 32 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 3: So why would you use a fully trained or two 33 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 3: fully trained police officers to sit back of house instead 34 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: of being out there on the street. 35 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 4: I mean, it's insane that it's been going that way 36 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: for so long. 37 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I found it quite surprising, but it's just the 38 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 3: way they've done things here. They didn't think about doing 39 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: it differently. So that's the good thing about fresh Eyes. 40 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 6: Three months in. What's the overriding emotion? I sense a 41 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 6: little bit of frustration, the penile frustrated. 42 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: We have brilliant people overwhelmed by the capability and the 43 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: commitment of Victoria police officers. They are brilliant, but they 44 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: want to do more, so they need better, better systems, 45 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: less bureaucracy, better tech to enable them to go out 46 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: and do the job they joined to do. 47 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 4: I think you got rid of the fax machines. 48 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: Yet machines stations another thing. 49 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 3: I was overwhelmed by the fax machines. We still have 50 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: some that they got to go becoming a bit of 51 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: a running jokes. 52 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 4: So that's the top line, right. 53 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 5: We're getting our police officers back on the streets doing 54 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 5: also what they have trained to do, and I imagine 55 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 5: what they've joined the police force for. 56 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 4: What else? 57 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 5: What other changes are coming in because Victoria feels like 58 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 5: we're in dire straits right now. 59 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I've got to build a back room too 60 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: that support those staff members so that they don't have 61 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: to do all that bureaucracy, all that paperwork, so they 62 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 3: can stay out there. Better tech so that they can 63 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: actually do their entire job with a device they hold 64 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 3: in their hand and they only have to do it once. 65 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 3: That's the aim that'll take a while to build. We're 66 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: also building a state Commanding Coordination center so that a 67 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: senior officer on behalf of the executive can watch what's 68 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: happening live across the state and have the executive's authority 69 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: to deploy twenty four to seven live into situations. So 70 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 3: at the moment, we've got good cops in isolation doing 71 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: stuff and more of an ad hoc fashion. But you've 72 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: got to do it with good intelligence, do it live. 73 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 6: Has the Premier and her government given you as a 74 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 6: police force everything you need to tackle the crisis, because 75 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 6: it is, as Lauren intimated, quite distressing for so many people. 76 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: You are two things on that. I think the whole 77 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: system's got to come together so we can be really successful, 78 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: and we're talking to government about that. We've got a 79 00:03:55,040 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: plan so the system works together. But for me as 80 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: Chief Commissioner, I've got a look in house first and 81 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: make sure we are best dressed so that we've got 82 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: the right people in the right place at the right 83 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: time doing the right things. Well, let's let's have a 84 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: look in the house first, because we can organize ourselves 85 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: better and and do things differently. 86 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 2: I think women chating about it for a while, and 87 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: I think that's why is Melbournie and we're just titting 88 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: a head against the wall going you know. 89 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: The crime is just it's out of control in the 90 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: city at the moment. 91 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: And I'll be honest, I think initially the anger was 92 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: towards the police and now people have understood the process more. 93 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: I know in here all the police we chat to 94 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: is just just as frustrated as stashed. You guys are stretched. 95 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: You're out there, you're getting these criminals and then they're 96 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 2: back on the streets a couple of days, over and 97 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: over again. How can you catch in the same crims 98 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: over and you've. 99 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 3: Seen the data we released it a few weeks ago. 100 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: We can't have that. So there's two things we need 101 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: to do. We need to intervene early in these young 102 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 3: peoples lives. But if that doesn't work, then they've got 103 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 3: to be held to account. The fact that community safety 104 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: is the number one consideration around sentencing and bail is 105 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: absolutely appropriate. But we want to see that happen. But 106 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: one of these the community comes first. 107 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 6: One of these youth offenders the other day who was apprehended, 108 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 6: admitted to police that he was addicted to knife crime. 109 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: That is teenagers. 110 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: That shocking, abhorrent and that really that was shocking. So 111 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: what do we do about those young people? How did 112 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: they get into that state? So what can we do 113 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: with NGOs, community neighborhoods police to actually get into those 114 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 3: communities some earlier intervention with those young people to steer 115 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: them away from a life of crime. You've got to 116 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: do that as well. 117 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 2: One hundred percent, and I think, yeah, you try and 118 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: stop the problem before it arises. 119 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,679 Speaker 1: The other issue at the moment is everyone just goes. 120 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: They don't care. There's no fear on these kids. No 121 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: like that guy, I'm not worried at all. 122 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 5: Kid who got a citizen's arrest from the nineties the 123 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 5: other day and he said, don't call the police. Don't 124 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 5: hurt me, call the police because he knows you guys 125 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 5: will come, do your jobs, do a great job. And 126 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 5: as we saw, he's back out on the streets. 127 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 6: It's dale yesterday. Do you faith in the judicial system? 128 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: The judicial system operate independent of everyone. They've got a 129 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: tough job in front of them. But you know, one 130 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: of our officers used the line that sentencing wasn't in 131 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 3: line with community expectations. I personally believe the judiciary have 132 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 3: got to listen to the community. 133 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and they're not at the moment. They're just not. 134 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: I know, you've got to be careful what you say. 135 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: But you know, as a member of the public, I 136 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: city going these I'll be honest, these little shits are 137 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: out there committing these crimes. 138 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: They don't care. 139 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 5: But I think we all feel for the police as well, 140 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 5: because it must be so frustrating. 141 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 4: Doing the same thing over and over again. 142 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 5: And it's great the changes that you're making to get 143 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 5: the police back out on the streets. What is the 144 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 5: timeframe on that and when we see the police out 145 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 5: of the back end and out on the street, Well, 146 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 5: it's going. 147 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 3: To start very shortly. So the reorganization as a proposal, 148 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: so it'll take about three months to land, and it 149 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: includes a slim down police executive so the support that 150 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: we have and that personel power can be redeployed to 151 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: the front line. So in about three months will land 152 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: exactly what it looks like. But the changes we want 153 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: to bring in start now. So I've put a team together. 154 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: You were going to start driving those changes just quickly. 155 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 6: Like shopping centers bizarrely becoming a bit of a focal point. 156 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 6: Last night, a man was arrested, two people stabbed during 157 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 6: a braad outside Craigieburn Plaza. It's happening a lot. We 158 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 6: saw those wild scenes in a shopping center last week. 159 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 6: Do you have any theory as to why they're becoming 160 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 6: a hotspot. 161 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: Yes, a lot of those incidents happened outside and then 162 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: they gravitate inside to the shopping centers, and again I 163 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: want to put more cops on the street and into 164 00:07:55,480 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: those places so there's a visible police presence so that 165 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: we can intervene in that sort of stuff, because it 166 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: is unacceptable that people going about their lives shopping are 167 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: confronted with people with machetes and knives. We can't have that. 168 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: Again, though I sit there and go, I think that's great, 169 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: more police on the ground, more cops out there as 170 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: a deterrent. But until the courts get on board with 171 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: this as well, they're going to look at the cops 172 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: and they know that they're going to get away with murder. 173 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 6: Unfortunately, putting machetes and knives into those bins? 174 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 3: Do you have had three thousand and nine hundred since 175 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: September in the bins, but our staff since January have 176 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: seized I think it's actually thirteen thousand knives off people 177 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: on the. 178 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: Streets, predominantly from youth. 179 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 3: Offenders are assumed dominantly youth. Most of this problem as 180 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: young people. 181 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 6: And they're not the ones depositing knives and machines. 182 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: It's exactly what I was about to say. 183 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 3: No they're not. But you know, every machete. Every knife 184 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 3: we take off the street is one that can't of course. 185 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: Hey, it's just gone twenty past seven. We are on 186 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: the air with Mike Push, the Chief commission this morning. 187 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: Are you happy to take some calls? Sure done. Thirteen 188 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen is our number. If you would like to 189 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: chat with Mike and you've got a question for the 190 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: chief of police, give us a call here at nover 191 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: thirteen twenty fourteen. Will come back to take calls next. 192 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 6: The chiefs and Lawrence cro he's a popo. 193 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 4: Yes, he's a friend of our show. 194 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 5: Chief Commissioner Mike Push from the Victorian Police is here now. 195 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 3: Mike. 196 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 5: We love that we get the chance to speak to 197 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 5: you and thank you for coming in because Victoria does 198 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 5: feel like it's in a really trying time at the moment, 199 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 5: and it's it's wonderful for us that we get to 200 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 5: talk to you, but it's our audience at home who 201 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 5: are equally as frustrated, who would like to have ask 202 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 5: you some questions. 203 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 4: You're down for that, sure all right? 204 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen is our number to join us on the air. 205 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 4: Who we got the the owner? Good morning, OHI, how 206 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 4: are you well? You've got a question for the bus. 207 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. 208 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 7: I guess the frustration is these underages out there doing 209 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 7: this stuff, and I'm thinking whether you know, is it 210 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 7: a consideration about curfews. I mean, we had them in 211 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 7: COVID for under you know, for people maybe underage people. 212 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 7: You know, there's a curkew setup and parents are fined 213 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 7: or families are fined, and that money goes back into 214 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 7: education and community services to get these disorted. 215 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 3: I get what you're saying for, but you know, it's 216 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: intolerable and not acceptable that fourteen year olds are out 217 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 3: in South south Bank at two am are getting involved 218 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: in knife crime. What I would like to see happen is, 219 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 3: especially those young people that have been bailed for other offenses, 220 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: are on electronic bail, so we know exactly where where 221 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: they are. They've got conditions not to leave home and 222 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 3: we monitor those so the minute they breach those conditions, 223 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: we're on top of them and we take them home. 224 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 4: Would that be with like an ankle brain. 225 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, with an ankle bracelet. 226 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 4: We had that. 227 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 6: We do. 228 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: We've got it for about sixty young people. We need 229 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: to roll that out further, we need to use it's 230 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: a trial and we need to use it for our 231 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 3: old offenders as well. 232 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: But I've choked around about this in the past. I 233 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: know we say it's a trial. I can go down 234 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: Apple and by an air attack and strap it to 235 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: someone like it's twenty twenty five. 236 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: Surely we would have the tech by now, wouldn't we. 237 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 4: I guess it. 238 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: The tech does exist. I think in New Zealand there 239 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: are nearly two and a half thousand people on electronic 240 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 3: monitored bail, so we know where they are and we 241 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 3: know where they breach in the minute they breach. We 242 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 3: deployed to. 243 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 4: It, so that helped, like curve reoffending. 244 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, And I think, and I've been talking to 245 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 3: the Department of Justice about this, I think we need 246 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 3: to do a lot more of it. 247 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: Because it's his ignorance. 248 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 6: But when someone is bailed, be it a young offender 249 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 6: an older offender, they are some of their conditions are 250 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 6: curfew based, which which are clearly flouted by the kids 251 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 6: they're It's like they. 252 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: Unless you're driving around their house and checking, you don't 253 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 2: know and then more police. 254 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 5: If they were monitored like that, you'd be able to 255 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 5: tell it anytime where they are and you can go 256 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 5: hang on. 257 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: So the way it works in New Zealand, as we 258 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 3: have a corrections person and now what we're going to 259 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: establish as our state command and coordination center. Their minute, 260 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: there's a breach on that ankle, Bracelet we respond, go 261 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: pick them upright? Exactly? 262 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 6: Is it just us, Mike? Is it just Victoria that's 263 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 6: in a bad place? 264 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 3: Well, I think everyone's grappling with crime, and but that's 265 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: why we're reorganizing ourselves and working with government to get 266 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 3: a response. Because the levels of crime are unacceptable and 267 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 3: the fear of crime is unacceptable. 268 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 5: Can we turn it around because it feels like we're 269 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 5: in a hole and we're not even close to digging ourselves. 270 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: Out of it. Of course we can and we must 271 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: for our people. 272 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Sarah in MENTO morning. Sarah, 273 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: you're on with Mike Bush, Chief of Police. 274 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: What's a question wanting. 275 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 3: Guys wanting tea? 276 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 7: So there's a lot of protests going on locally at 277 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 7: the moment. I was just wondering what's your view on 278 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 7: the protest? 279 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 3: Hi, Sarah, A good question, very topical. At the moment. 280 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 3: You would have heard us say that we deploy twenty 281 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 3: five thousand shifts since October twenty twenty three to manage protests. 282 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: Everyone's got a right to protest, but I appeal to 283 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 3: the protest community to think about doing this differently. Whatever 284 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 3: your causes, you have empathy for others. How about practicing 285 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 3: that empathy and compassion for Malburnians. So if I deployed 286 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: half of that twenty five thousand shifts to crime prevention, 287 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 3: that would really help to get on public crime. But 288 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: also I watched the weekend protests closing down almost the 289 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 3: entire CBD. There are businesses that are suffering, Our tourism suffers. 290 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: So can you also consider and apply your compassion and 291 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 3: empathy to Melbournian. 292 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: I don't get a twenty Do you remember the trucks 293 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: when they all started banking up and shutting down the 294 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: bridges and stuff, And you're trying to get us on 295 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 2: your side for what you're protesting. 296 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: It makes no sense. 297 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 4: Protesting can be a really important part of but you 298 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 4: have people's right to protest. 299 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 2: But you're annoying everybody and stopping them in their tracks 300 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: is not going to get the support of the public. 301 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 4: Mike, did the police work with these organizations here? 302 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: We've got good lines of communication with them. But you know, 303 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: I'm asking them, if you want to protest, protest, but 304 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: you might need to stop marching and closing down our Cbdah. 305 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 5: But there's often it's not. There's a large portion of 306 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 5: the protesters who are doing the right thing, group of 307 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 5: absolute idiots that ruin it. 308 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: There is a very very small group who ruin it 309 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: for everyone. 310 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 4: And is it the same group pretty much? 311 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: Pretty much? You know, ninety five percent of those people 312 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: are very peaceful people. But again, can you think about 313 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: your fellow Melburnians and just stay put for a little bit, 314 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 3: don't close down the CBD, don't impact on our reputation, 315 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: don't impact on businesses, and don't cause us to have 316 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,479 Speaker 3: to deploy so many police usually. 317 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: One thousand and here we are saying we need them, 318 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: you know more on the street. 319 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 5: It sounds like you're moving things in the right direction 320 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 5: for Victoria Police. And I know the police force must 321 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 5: be so grateful to get back on the streets and 322 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 5: get out of all that back end stuff. 323 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: Mike, So that's what they joined. 324 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: For those crazy keywis. They're onto something. 325 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, policing. 326 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 4: I knew we could follow New. 327 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: Zealands Michael to have you thanks coming in mate, pleasure. 328 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: Great to see you all. 329 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 6: Lauren En wake up feeling good following them on the socials.