WEBVTT - 🇫🇷 Matty & the Missile in Paris: Leave them wanting more 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:05.440 We just jumped straight into it. You should go to 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:14.480 the music over the vacation that's Quidney. Where do you 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:17.520 get your height from? I think it's an allegiand background? 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:24.680 Where do you get your black of months? This is 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.800 what it all began, the cauldron. Yeah, big Teddy Rhiner 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:31.120 with this on night one. We've seen a bit of Teddy. 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:34.919 Was in the judo blow every time you turn it 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:36.920 on and you what you want to watch the basketball? 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:41.320 The Boomers. It's always like so someone said, it's not 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:43.680 actually a flame. Yeah, so you notice not much heat 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:44.520 coming up this thing. 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:49.560 This is the Eco Friendly Games, carbon footprint, etcetera. That's 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.320 moater missed being lit up by a yellow light. So 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:57.440 it looks like the famous looks pretty real. But at 0:00:57.560 --> 0:00:59.320 night they fill this thing the helium. 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:04.520 I love the Planet's mus the next floit. But anyway, 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:05.480 now listen to people. 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:08.200 If you're listening on already are and you want this 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.959 to make perfect sense, go to Fox Sports. 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:12.040 Fox Sports. 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:23.480 Let's go somewhere else, So to live built around the 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:27.440 twelfth century, turn into a museum seventeen ninety three. 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.840 And there it is like the last pyramid. It's very specific. 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.520 Nine that was done. How do you learn all those facts? 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:39.760 How do I learn that? At least told me. I'll 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:40.840 give you some facts as well. 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.800 You might remember early two thousand Tom Hanks was involved 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.360 in a great heightst here the Unfortunately a security guard 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:48.160 died that night. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:53.080 Maybe the Da Vinci Code was a movie, not a documentary. 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:54.880 Highlights of the trip. 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:59.160 Look, Maddie, I've loved the sport, the golden girls in 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:01.680 the pool. But what I've been really surprised by and 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.400 impressed by is how passionate the French fans are and 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:06.920 how patriotic they are every event you go to when 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:10.800 there's a French athlete involved, singing the anthem, singing the crowd. 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:12.360 We saw the French swimmers the other day up on 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.960 stage shirtless in front of thousands of people. I've really 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:20.080 enjoyed that aspect of a home games for these French athletes. 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:24.040 They celebrate their athletes. I reckon we used to in 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:29.160 the nineteen eighties. I remember World Series cricket. Yeah, what 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:30.400 have you liked about the games? 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.360 Firstly, one of these I really I was blown away 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:38.040 by is the frenchman Leon Machon. Yeah that right, Yeah, 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.640 he's just he's phenomenal. Do you reckon he's a chance 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:44.440 of Bertie Phelps's record one day. 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:47.080 He's on track. He's on track. 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.720 I mean he won four individual goals here no relays 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.840 for Big Leon, so he didn't get to pump up 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.280 his medals with those. But at his rate of improvement, 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.200 I don't see why you couldn't go five or six. 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.600 Come Los Angeles. It's been a great Olympics. As far 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:05.240 as I reckon events, action performances. There's been a lot 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.960 of criticism about the village and whatnot the future of 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.280 the Olympics. Missile, what do you reckon make? 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.640 I think the concept of an Olympic village is no 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.080 longer feasible for these countries. You imagine the cost to 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:20.680 build the accommodation, the food hall, the lighting, electure, all 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:21.240 of that stuff. 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:21.960 It's too much. 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.680 I think if I was Brisbane and I'm looking at 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.760 hosting this home Games, I'd be looking at pushing events 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.600 to other cities and hosting those athletes in those cities. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:33.600 For example, why couldn't we do the. 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:37.600 Athletics at the MCG and have the athletes from America 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:41.680 or from Athletics down in Melbourne. Yeah, the other one Mattie. 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:44.280 So they say this village is no good, right. 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:48.200 This is a crook village. I've been to worse. I've 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:48.680 been to worse. 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:50.720 So I was in Deli at the commath Games twenty 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:55.839 ten and had a problem with spider monkeys. For those 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:57.400 who don't know what a spider monkey is, it's a 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:58.960 little monkey about the size of your hand. 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:03.400 They're running through the rooms stealing food. A definitive which hands. 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:13.080 The spider monkeys and they're. 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:13.000 Running through the room stealing food, getting the food all. So, 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:15.520 how do we fix the problem with the spider monkeys. 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.200 What they did was the military came through the village 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.679 on leeds, these big baboons with the bare eyes, about 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.839 the size of a labrador. They're walking these big balloons, 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:29.080 big things running through the village and all the spider 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:32.720 monkeys are dispersing into the jungle around us. That's how 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.760 they fixed the problem of little monkeys. Are the bigger monkeys? 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.760 So I mean, were there some distractions in this village? 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:39.000 Yes? 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:39.240 Was it? 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:43.240 Idea of no? Have we seen worst villages? Absolutely? 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.400 Here we have question there. 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:51.680 Like komal Games, I'll got all respect in the world 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:53.040 for the athletes, but the concept. 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:54.600 Now the Commonwealth Games. 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.839 I remember not only two missile Brisbane got the Comonwealth 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:59.200 Games and it was. 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.599 It was huge. Yeah, where are the common Games? 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:06.760 That we may see with Melbourne pulling out of this 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.440 next game, we may see the end of the Commonwealth 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:11.719 Games as we know it. 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:12.800 Maybe again that they. 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.920 Split up the sports into a Commonwealth Game, swimming in 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.640 in one country at Konwalth Games, athletics and another and 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:21.400 it becomes another major meat for those sports. But again 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:24.760 as a concept with a village with all new facilities, 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.760 we're just seeing as these games go with the increased 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.880 cost of labor and goods and all of that, but 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.520 the budgets just blow out so much. It's such a 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.440 strain on the host nation that like Melbourne, they don't 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.760 want to they don't want to do it. 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:40.479 Can we me? We do? I need? This is a 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:48.680 girl I watched it to meet. Okay, assister Lisa the 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.800 saying when they did the triathlon here a number of 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:53.359 a number of. 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:59.919 The athletes caught, Yeah, caught e Coli developed Carla poisoning and. 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:04.960 The coested Nicola. Yeah, one point five billion dollars they 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:06.960 spend in the same man he trying to clean it up. 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.960 The ten k open water Swim is on tomorrow, and 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.240 as you can see, they reckon. The triathletes said they 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:16.279 couldn't see their hand in front of their face as 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:20.520 they swam. So in terms of directions for where you're headed, 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.440 in terms of seeing other athletes, in terms of having 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:26.200 any grasp of how far you've swim or where you're going, 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.800 few challenges for these poor open water swimmers. I'll tell 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.880 you what, you'd be hard up finding an amount of 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.159 money to get me in that thing missing. 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.039 They're going down and they're turning back around, might swimming 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:42.880 against the flow. It's as you can see, this current 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.120 which is constant, it's flowing. 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:48.240 Down river is quite strong and you're seeing right now. 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:49.279 If you have a look, mate, you look at it. 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:53.679 The debris, leaves, rubbish one point five billion. 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:54.800 I'd love to know where that went. 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:55.080 There. 0:06:56.240 --> 0:07:00.440 She spent twenty b and different and and this is 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.400 like feeling we're not making this up. 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.599 There's a story about an overseas athlete that has been 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:11.480 microdocing on E coli to prepare himself for swimming in 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:15.680 this event. It's pretty extreme, isn't it. That's a new 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:20.040 meaning to the phrase each shit and die. You won't 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:34.440 be that, you know, miss while they say these days 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.840 a people that have short the kids have short attention spans, 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:40.560 and you wonder, you know, as time goes by, whether 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.000 that's just part of the human conditions. She's let me 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.840 be like Notre Dame here and some of these stunning, 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:51.160 stunning buildings around the world, like you talk about patients, some. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.760 Of two one hundred and fifty years to build. 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:56.960 See the one in Barcelona is still going. It's a 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:00.120 greater familiar. I think it's not predicted for another up 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.559 one hundred years. What about So I watched this movie 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.320 there's actually a blake that lived up here and Ring 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:06.000 the Belly had. 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:11.160 A terrible affliction me sort of mate once again. Movie 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.560 not documentary. I don't know if it was based off 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.280 somewhere one of the best days I had. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.679 I just stumbled upon you because you just find yourself 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.280 just doing loops of the same your area, doun the 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.720 media center, going to swimming out, the hotel went for 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:26.760 a walkout, and I was heading the media center and 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.480 stuff that just typed in ruge. 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:33.199 And head to that that that precinct mart pretty good. 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:36.400 It wrong anyway, Bar area. Anyway, I headed that area. 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:38.360 Now I didn't know, but at the time the cycling 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.319 was on. Now that area is just so beautiful. It's 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.559 it's it's like what you what you thought Paris was 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.960 when you were a kid. With the cycling, it was 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.120 just it was insane. I've got it on my phone. 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.520 I don't we can whack it on the whack it 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:56.920 on the podcast because there's all these rules about Olympics 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:00.040 or there was no cycling at the time, but the 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:00.880 crowd was singing. 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:01.360 Once again. 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:05.560 It was the evidence of that French French spirit and 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:07.280 the pride in their country. 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.400 I think that would be the lasting memory of me 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.920 for this Olympics would be that French patriotism, the fans 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.120 everywhere we've gone and we've seen people in the blue, 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.360 white and red. We've heard the national anthem. That's another 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.760 big one for me. National anthems and this Olympics. So 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.440 he sat that swimming and heard the full range of anthems. 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.240 I think France takes number one spot. I think so 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.760 it's very y good New Zealand national anthems. Cracker, I 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:35.319 love the New Zealand national anthem. What about as look 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:37.120 at it to be controversial. 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:38.840 Little testing. 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:43.480 Yesterday I went to the Speedo sponsor of it and 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:48.160 interviewed some of our golden girls. Yeah, truly funny, like 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:53.240 the vastly different personalities. Like Arianne Timmus was, you could 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:54.920 see she was a bit of a scully way hit, 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.680 a bit of sparking spark about her and not that 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:58.400 the other girls did. 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:02.040 But like Molly was more reserved. You can see those 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:02.439 a bit there. 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:07.920 But shit, they had Emma who was really really really 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.240 she was really reserved, held a lot back. 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.440 So yeah, it was really It's. 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:16.079 Interesting, and that's something that you know that sponsors and 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:19.920 corporate people sit down and look at you see Arion 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.000 and a lot of ads, billboards doing things on TV 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.760 because she has that personality. And that's one thing I 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.120 always talked to you is about sometimes I have this 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.360 real combative relationship with the media. They don't want to 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.080 do interviews, they don't want to be but it's part 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:35.719 and parcel of being an athlete. If you want to 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:36.960 be an athlete, if you want to be the face 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:40.040 of the Los Angeles Games in four years time you 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.319 go to talk, you're going to show some personality. 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:43.920 You've got to get out and about so. 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.480 People get invested in you and your story and then 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.640 want to be part of your Olympic journeys. 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:50.520 Like the Lives of the Life. 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.560 Character is coming back into Australia's disappeared for a long 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:57.240 time because otherways critical of media managers. They should facilitate 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:01.079 between the athlete or the teams and the media, but. 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:03.479 They start to become obstructurists. 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.640 Don't do this, don't do that, don't say that, say this, 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:10.120 you leave like you get guys in the someone get 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.000 in a bit of trouble that you're branded Smith right. 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.280 Branded sometimes serves things to get in a little bit 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:16.640 of trouble. 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.800 But I'll take that because not even set the time 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:22.640 where you say it gives you a chuckle, you know, 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:24.199 and it's endearing. 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:24.680 It isn't. 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.360 Yeah, if I was a manager right now, another young 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.920 athlete is coming through as say swimmer. They say half 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:34.280 a dozen journalists in swimming that cover the sport regularly. 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.679 I'd say I'm going to book a dinner, nice spot 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.480 at the restaurant in Sydney. I'm going to invite all 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:43.160 six journoys and my athlete introduce them away from the pool, 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.240 away from the spotlight. So this is so and so 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.080 this is our background, this is a bit of a story, 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:50.199 and then they're invested in your story personally, and then 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.079 they're working with you to the rest of your career 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:53.200 rather than against. 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:53.640 Good like that. 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.120 Right, there's two a gold, Silver and Bryans on the 0:11:56.200 --> 0:12:00.600 journals over here, because honestly they have they aracters. I 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.840 know the League journators really well, but I've seen another 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.720 like a little bit more of them here. Personality will 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:12.520 make it's been awesome. My my bronze there you go. There, 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:16.080 My bronze goes to Crash Cratic. Yeah, like Crash is 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.360 just that I've never seen a blake with just such 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:21.360 raw enthusias. So one day I walked in there one 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:22.800 day in the med is and it's the only time 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.720 I've seen him defeated. He was like sitting like that 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:30.800 and you are all right, Crash, he said, Maddie. 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:35.160 I've hit the wall. I'm exhausted, but it's exhilarating. My 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.719 Silver goes to Rudy. 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:42.240 Had a great day of Roland Garras were breedy, terrific, terrific, fella. 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:44.000 I've never seen a bloke eat like you must have 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:45.960 a tapeworm size with fist in his guts. 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:51.520 Gold medal, gold medal. It is mister larger than Germany. 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:56.720 Peter Madell such a newfound respect for these journeys, and 0:12:56.800 --> 0:13:00.400 Pee Bedell his enthusiasm and hunger to get a story, 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:01.560 which he eventually did. 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:03.560 Yeah, you got it, the ninety two million story. 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.880 Credible. Yeah, we've got a bloke you taking a photo. 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.959 He's just disappeared because they ten bucks ten ere. 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.400 You know the op year here. So how have you 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.959 found friends? We just you do it right here in 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:20.199 turn at Singapore. Now, I really like it. I like 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:21.400 the You hear all the. 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:26.000 Stories about French people being rude, difficult. I've found it 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:31.960 completely the opposite. Found I found the people really really good. Yeah, 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.199 I've made I've loved Olympe. 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:40.400 This is more like it. Yeah, I want to ask him, Maggie, firstly, 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:42.760 what do you have you found? Yeah, saying Matte. 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.640 Obviously you hear a lot of commentary from other people 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:47.679 saying the French are rude and all that sort of jazz. 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.880 But I feel like they've embraced this Olympic Games like 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.520 more so than I ever imagined, and the hospitality has. 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:57.520 Been Nurso it's really good. 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.320 One of one of the highlights that I've had, James, 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:05.240 is sitting in the stands and you not just doing 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.199 your predictions right because. 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:08.800 Anyone can predict it, even though you've got them all right. 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:16.200 Is just the technicalities. You're insights, so like little just 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.600 a little subtle things. So who was your coach? 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:19.360 Yeah? 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.000 So when I was eighteen, I came down to Sydney. 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.840 I was trying to decide where to go with swimming 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:28.680 with life, and I met a bloke, Grant Best at 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.200 mccuarie University in Sydney, and he sat down with me 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:32.800 and my parents and he said, if you come down 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.480 and swim with me, I'll have you at the Olympic 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:36.960 Games in two years time in London. 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:38.920 Wow, what did you think? Then? 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.040 I was an emmoed blame straight away and thought that's 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.240 what I'm doing. Mom and dad were kind of shocked 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:46.880 by because no one had ever said anything like that 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.600 to me before. People in put mcquarie away said, you know, 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.640 you never made the Olympics. It's just a dream. It's 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.240 it's a pipe dream, it will never happened. Suddenly there's 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.680 this coach sitting in front of me saying I'll have 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.120 you at the Olympic Games in two years time. And 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.040 that was the sort of belief that I needed from 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:05.120 somebody else. I had self belief, but nobody else had 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.240 ever told me that I could be that good. And 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.000 so I made the decision, I'm going to move down. 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:12.400 I'm going to swim with brand best and he, because 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.040 I was so young, he became like a father. 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:16.840 Figure to me at that point in my life. 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.440 Taught me about the sport, but also, you know, taught 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.560 me a lot of lessons about becoming a man and 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.600 making that transition from you know, being seventeen eighteen to 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:27.880 teen in my twenties. 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.720 You were saying before that things got to change about swimming, 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:36.240 and you spoke about the technicalities like the start, the dive, the. 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:40.800 Turns, all that sort of stuff. Like So let's say. 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.280 Let's say it's like, you know, you do a day 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.160 and it's five hours of swimming. What percentage is on 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.800 technicality and what is on physicality? 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:53.360 Yeah, so historically in Australia you're looking at ninety five 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.320 to seven percent physicality. 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.440 Where a country steeped in tradition in distance swimming. You 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:00.200 think about all that great and was over the years. 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.520 They often come from that sort of fifteen four hundred 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:05.800 through to fifteen hundred meter mark your hackets, Si Perkins, 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.240 you thought, Sir Murray Roses, if you go back around 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.720 John Conrad's if you go back with it again. Now 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.160 you seeing the emergence of sprinting in Australia. At this 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.880 Olympic Games, we got our first ever medal in fifty 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.400 three style. People might be surprised to hear that, but 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.000 Kem McAvoy not only was our first gold medals, he's 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.920 our first medalist at Olympic Games in fifty three style. 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.160 And that just shows the focus starting to slowly change 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.800 to the sprinting, which means we need to be more technical, 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.920 women need to spend more time on those skills. Right. 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:34.960 What about you? 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.960 Who is your big influence as a coach and taught 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:39.240 you the game? 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:41.920 I mean, look, rugbyl league's a fair way removed from 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:43.960 the Olympic sports, but the principals are all the same 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.640 and the principles I think you're professional sport. If you 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:47.800 want to make it is you've got to get a 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.920 great base for football or swimming, education or what you're in. 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:52.560 Andrew and I very lucky. 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.840 We had an old guy who was a goat farmer, 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.480 but he sort of bumped at different clubs and sat 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.840 as as system coach. A really great coaches and so 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.320 we would sit sometimes for hours upon end and he 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:07.800 would show us great players little things, subtleties. 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:08.080 That made them great. 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:10.199 He was the guy you know when you see the 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.320 block formations now sweet. He came up with that Newcastle 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.280 the first team to do it ninety two and at 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.760 the time people going, oh, this is like Newcastle made 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.600 the Samis that year, but it was really criticized, going oh, 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:21.200 this is crap. 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:23.200 Everyone plays that late all this time later. 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:27.520 But that football education he gave us, Like Maggie, it 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.080 nearly drove me insane. Like as I was a young guy, 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:31.720 I was like, I just want to get there and play. 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.359 And in a lot of ways he'd pull you back 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:36.840 to make you better in the long run. And eventually 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:39.959 once it kicks in, you have that insight like you did, 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:41.879 where you sit there and you're going, Maddie, this is 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:43.159 what is about to happen. 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:44.280 It's intrigued me. 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.560 When I spoke to you, and I spoke to Don Fraser, 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.240 and I just say to you when did Arian win that? 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.359 And both you would say, right, you know at this 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:56.520 point is both you had the same insight they turned 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:58.120 at this certain section of the race. 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:00.960 You know, one of the things found a little bit 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:02.199 hard in retirement. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.399 So you've been able to pass on that knowledge and 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:08.160 that information. You know, you've mentored Cooper Krong, Billy Slater, 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:11.000 some of the great halves and playmakers in our game. 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:15.560 Swimming has this disconnect with its with its athletes when 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.880 you retire. There's no real outlet for that, and that's 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.640 something I've found frustrating at times. You spend a whole 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.720 career building up all this knowledge about the sport that 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:25.720 you really want to pass on to that next generation. 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.520 But as you will have seen, most of those coaches 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.520 on the swim team now weren't ex swimmers, and there's 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:35.920 no real avenue or mentorship or ways for younger athletes 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.000 to get that knowledge from some of us in years 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:39.400 gone by. 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:44.199 Is that funny, Like it's so prestigious the Olympics, you know, 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:51.639 in swimming and athletics, but then there's a void. I 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:53.520 get you, and I suppose a lot of the time 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.440 and you see the professional floor were sent at swimming why. 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.680 A lot of swimmers have that difficult, the transitioning next 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:03.400 pub a lot of the problematic. Yeah, there's one more 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:05.960 place you wanted to show me. I think it's somewhere 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:07.800 you've been sneaking off to a bit during the week. 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.640 So now listen, we're going to get something clear. Straight away. 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.719 We're talking about the moon rouge, right, And I didn't know. 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.359 I just thought that was like the can Can dancers. 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:17.360 And I said to my. 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:21.680 Wife, Trish, I said the Trish, I think myself, Miss 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:22.920 Island and Rose. 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.480 We're going to go and I'm going to get rouge. 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:27.560 She goes, you know, the best bare breast there. 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:31.720 I didn't know that You're not going, so I'm not going. 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:35.640 We're looking at the outside there. We won't go into Yeah, 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:44.879 you're right, bag you. I miss our trip has reached 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:48.560 this conclusion. Mate. I've had a Ball's been a lot 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:50.280 of fun. I've got it. I fly back to Australia 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.160 to join the NRL season again. I miss it. 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:57.399 I miss This is the Olympic spirits. It's like everyone's 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:00.720