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Speaker 2: You were saying before that things got to change about swimming,

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Speaker 3: So you've been able to pass on that knowledge and

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Speaker 3: Swimming has this disconnect with its with its athletes when

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Speaker 1: So now listen, we're going to get something clear. Straight away.

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Speaker 1: We're going to go and I'm going to get rouge.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that You're not going, so I'm not going.

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Speaker 1: We're looking at the outside there. We won't go into Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this conclusion. Mate. I've had a Ball's been a lot

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Speaker 2: I miss This is the Olympic spirits. It's like everyone's

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Speaker 1: It makes me sick. I'm gonna get back to the hype.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do a good another way here. Then I'm

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Speaker 3: off to Croatia. So really I'll see you them. What

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Speaker 1: N't want to do you like? How to sup? That

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Speaker 1: I'll share your guinness. Put hands on your chest and

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