WEBVTT - OH SH*T, THERE MIGHT BE A MALE BIRTH CONTROL PILL 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.720 I want the fairy tale. I want the prince charming. 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.040 She how do I put this? Isn't a fan of 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:07.840 my kissing style with. 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:11.080 The boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours because in 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:13.840 a trash bin he's non recyclable catching her mu. 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:17.319 I love being love. I love love. 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:20.560 On today's episode of Where's Your Head At, we are 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:23.560 talking about the new male contraception. 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:27.080 Stay tuned to hear what this new controversial drug means 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:32.920 for your sex life. 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:35.360 Where's Your Head At is a podcast that talks all 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:40.800 things relationships, breakups, reality TV, trending shows, and everything in between. 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:43.800 This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip, 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:46.160 intimate details, advice, and much more. 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:53.280 Hey Matt, Hey Anna, how are you? 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:54.720 I'm good and how are you? 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:55.720 I'm doing well. 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:57.720 So did you manage to download that apple I was 0:00:57.760 --> 0:00:58.520 telling you about. 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.120 Earlier I had with this app? 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:04.039 I think you should tell everyone about it because it's 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:05.040 very interesting. 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:07.640 All right. So Jen and I were laying in bed 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:10.920 the other day and her twin sister, Nikki, messages her 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.200 and says, hey, I've got this app. You and match 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.840 should try it. And I was like, oh, well, tell 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.479 us a bit about this app. So How it works 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:22.560 is the concept's pretty simple. It's for baby names, but 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:27.440 it works like Tinder. So Jen downloads it, I download it, 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:28.919 and we just swipe on names. 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.880 So basically, if the name Tom comes up, you both 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.760 swipe left and right, and if you both like the name, 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:37.040 you hit a match. 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:39.920 You get a match. Yes, So there was all different 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.760 types of names and I'll swipe and right, swipe and left. 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:44.880 So it was Jen and there was a couple of matches. 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.400 Actually there was what was the matches? Can you? 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.560 I don't want to because in case I think feel 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.320 like that's bad luck if I share it, isn't it? 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:54.640 Yeah, that's true. 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:59.080 Actually people do like hide their baby names until the bad. 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.800 No, but we've already just it on one. So this 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:03.320 art was more just trial to see if there was 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:05.120 anything else we liked cue. 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.560 So this is like this is like a modern day Tinder, 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:09.480 but for couples. 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:10.359 Yeah, exactly. 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:12.200 I think I'm going to download it. That sounds like 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:12.800 a lot of fun. 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.839 Well do you and Michael have any names planned out yet? 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:20.399 Or this has become like a baby podcast? 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:22.920 Well that's how we're growing. We're moving fast here. 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:24.000 Yeah, we're evolving. 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:30.040 We do have names but I mean, look, let's reverse 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.960 a little bit. I've had in my notes section in 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.360 my phone for literally as long as I can remember, 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.440 Like I reckon, I was eighteen when I started this. 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.480 I had a list of all the baby names that 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:45.079 I've loved. Has it changed, Yeah, the list has evolved 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:45.720 over time. 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:48.160 Do you change it every new partner or do you 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.440 just keep the same name each partner? 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:54.080 Yeah, Like if I had agreed on a name with someone, 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.880 like an ex boyfriend, that gets crossed out. Like I 0:02:56.960 --> 0:03:01.200 basically read Michael the list and then and he was like, yes, 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:03.680 I love that name. I love that name, but this 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:07.400 is very, very far into the future, like we're not 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.120 thinking about baby's FYI. But I just thought it was 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.839 funny that Matt and Jener already swiping left and right 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:13.680 for baby names. 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:15.800 It was good for a Sunday morning swipe. You know, 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.120 I'd normally do that hungover in bed on a Sunday, 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.680 just swipe on the dating app. So it was just 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:22.280 my way of doing it now that I'm in love 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:23.000 and got a partner. 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.560 Gave you that little fix, right, that little. 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.200 Serotonin hit when a match would come up. 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:28.240 Yeah. 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:31.760 Well, I mean, look, I am interested now that we're 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:35.440 talking about babies to kind of hear if you have 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.360 any little updates on your fertility journey. 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:42.120 So where I left it last, it's pretty much at 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.320 the same place. So I had a long, in depth 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:48.040 conversation with Genevieve about it, and we just both agreed 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.920 that when it comes time to have a baby, I 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.760 will have that surgery. So it's the doctor recommended to 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.080 have the surgery when your partner is there. So they 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:02.520 put the sperm straight into the egg. That's if they 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:04.440 find sperm in my balls. 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:08.320 Right, So basically the surgery, I don't know, Just correct 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.680 me if I'm wrong. The surgery was when they open 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:15.160 up the testicle, they'll look for sperm Phase one is 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.359 basically and hopefully they'll find the sperm. 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.440 If they don't find the sperm. 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.200 That conversation we haven't had yet. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.080 Right, But if they do find the sperm, which I'm 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:26.600 sure and hope they will. 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.120 Fingers crossed And that's the way I'm leaning like my 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:29.960 life that way. 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.080 Yeah, manifesting that. 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.640 Yeah, if they do find it, then what is jen 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:35.800 under anesthetic? 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.320 I think they might freeze it or they might have 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:40.640 her egg already to go. We're not sure one hundred percent, 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:42.560 but that they said the quickest way and the best 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.560 results is when her egg is ready to go straight away. 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.400 So I'm not sure how they'll do that. We'll have 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:48.240 to look more into that. 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:49.960 But the main thing is is you guys have had 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:54.359 that conversation. That's the path you both decided to go down, 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:56.560 and like, that's really exciting. 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.000 That, Yeah it is. Look, those chats have to happen earlier, 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.599 I guess in the situation, I mean, or else down 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:03.520 the future. If we don't see eye to eye on it, 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.240 it could cause some dramas. 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:09.320 Yeah, that's exciting. I'm excited. May going to be an 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:09.880 Auntie Thoon. 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:15.080 He's got the ab, he's organizing the surgery. 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:18.160 Maybe not too soon. Let's just see how things go on. 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.480 All this kid's talk. And I saw your story last 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:24.000 week and you were posting about the new male contraceptive pill. 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:25.440 Yeah, I'm excited, all. 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:30.919 Right, So we'll jump into that next all right, And 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.919 before we jump into this new scientific masterpiece of a 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:39.760 male contraceptive pill, what contraceptions have you been on? 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:41.800 I mean, I feel like I've done it all. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:46.479 So I started when I was seventeen. I think on 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:50.479 the pill. I think I went through three different pills 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:55.679 and they all just completely fucked with me. Like one 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:59.520 I was super moody, one I think I gained a 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.159 little bit of weight, and then another one affected my 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:03.760 skin badly. 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:05.400 They're all the main side effects. 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.679 Yeah, yeah, they're the main symptoms, but I just wasn't 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:12.039 happy with any of them. So then I decided to 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:15.280 try the implan on, which is the rod in your arm, 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:19.960 which I have a scar from having. That was really bad. 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.800 I basically was on it for like six months and 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.680 then I got my period and I had it for 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:30.560 three weeks straight, so went to the doctor. They immediately 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:35.040 took it out, and then from there they said I 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:39.239 could get injections, and I actually decided against that because 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.560 the doctor said that one of the side effects to 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.359 that was it can make your bones really weak. 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.200 So I was just like no, like, definitely don't want 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:46.560 to do that. 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:51.760 And then I eventually ended up having the marina, which 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:53.840 they basically put inside. 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:55.280 But when I. 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.920 Got that, I had a really adverse reaction to that. 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:02.040 Was in bed for like two days straight. Was the 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:05.599 worst pain I'd ever felt. When they put it in, 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.280 I thought I was gonna faint and vomit all at the. 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:11.840 Same time, aren't you under No. 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.760 No, they'd given me medication to kind of like dull 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:18.200 down the pain, but I felt everything like it was 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.280 honestly one of the worst experiences of my life, to 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.680 the point that I was actually traumatized. And when I 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.200 got it taken out, because I had to get it 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.160 taken out in the doctor's office again, on my way there, 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:31.520 I was literally shaking. 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:33.920 I was so stressed out. 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.920 And so then after getting it taken out, because it 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.680 lasts for five years, I realized I needed to get 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:46.200 more contraception again because it's a woman's job apparently, and 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:51.640 I actually opted to go under. So I had surgery 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.360 to get it put back in because it was the only. 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:55.120 One that agreed with me. 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:56.600 So you still have it now. 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.560 I still have it now, but I'm like terrified to 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:00.520 get it to take out. 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:02.000 Wherever us does it sit? 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:03.920 So it sits in your uterus. 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:08.640 So yeah, I've been through a huge amount of birth 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:12.360 control and it's actually been quite traumatizing and taxing on 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.080 my mental health but also my body. Like I've been 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.800 on contraception now for eleven years, so I think when 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:19.880 I saw it. 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:20.960 Was on like morning TV. 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:25.040 I saw that, like there was a male contraception, and 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:26.680 my eyes like lit up, and I. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.679 Was like, hallelujah, the day has. 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:34.480 Finally come time to put that responsibility onto someone else. 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:36.400 So I was very excited. 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.280 So when you were watching this morning show, what were 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.680 they exactly saying, what's a new update on this contraceptive pill? 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:46.000 Because I heard about ten years ago they tried this 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.600 but they went silent and nothing came of it. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:52.600 So yeah, so basically they've done a lot of trials. 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:56.880 I mean, contraception came out in the nineteen sixties for women, 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.520 and you'd think in that time that the sign would 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:04.320 have developed male contraception, but it's just totally been lacking. 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:08.839 So the last contraception for male they said there was 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:12.240 too many side effects and it wasn't approved. But this 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:16.839 one that they have recently done on mice has proven 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:21.000 to be ninety nine percent effective in preventing pregnancy, which 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:26.240 is amazing. And there are possible side effects, but they're 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.240 like any other side effect that I guess a woman 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:34.400 has to encounter, which is acne, headaches, reduce sex drive, fatigue, 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:39.400 a little bit of weight gain, and mild erectile dysfunction. 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.679 So say a man went on this pill, I'll call 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:45.840 it a cycle of this contraceptive pill, so it would 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:50.040 shut down their sperm production how long until they could 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:50.880 reproduce sperm. 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:55.240 So basically the research found that after four to six 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.240 weeks the mice could reproduce again. 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.719 So it's basically exactly like. 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:05.319 Any sort of contraception that women use. And as soon 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.840 as you go off it, in about a month or 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.800 two months max. Everything kind of regulates and is back 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:12.120 to normal. 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:15.480 I's producing those again. Yeah, So has this been tested 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:17.760 on humans yet or is it just mice? What's to 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:19.880 go there? Because I'm not putting anything in my body. 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:21.319 It's just been tested. 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.040 On mice, so it's been tested on mice. 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:27.640 But they're starting phase one trials on humans, hopefully by. 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:28.520 The end of this year. 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.200 So the end is in sight for all of those 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:35.199 women out there who have been on contraception their whole lives. 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:38.680 If you're anything like me and pretty much everyone I know. 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:43.920 But I have a question for you, Matt. 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:49.400 If the contraception pill was readily available to you, and 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.880 I know this is touchy because obviously you're infertile, but 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:57.440 before you found that information out. Let's go back. 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:58.720 To when you're eighteen. 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.720 Maybe you see keeping around with a lot of girls 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:06.240 potentially having unprotected sex, or going home to a girl's 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:10.000 house at four o'clock in the morning, very drunk, very hazy, 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:14.400 and not really getting that condom on very well, do 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.760 you think that this is an option that you could 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:17.920 potentially get around? 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:22.240 Sure, i'd definitely. I would definitely take the male contraceptive pill. 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:25.480 I mean, I have a vitamin routine every morning in 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:27.600 the night, so it's not hard for me just to 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.800 put that pill in that tray of pills, so that 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:34.079 would be easy done to take. But look safe sex 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.320 to me matters like I think all about all that, 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.000 But if I have a partner that I'm having continuous 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:40.880 sex with, I don't want to be wearing a condom 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.400 I didn't back in the day. So if they weren't 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:46.680 open to taking a contraceptive, I'm more than happy to 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:50.080 step up and take that pill to prevent an unwanted pregnancy. 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.720 Yeah, what about your friends? Do you think your friends 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:53.719 would be on board with it? 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.280 I had a discussion with him when we spoke about this, 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:58.520 and you put your story up. I got a lot 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:02.400 of mixed reactions. Really, yeah, some of my roomis were like, 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.920 I don't know, you know, just like uming and ring 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:07.800 about it. I talked them into it a little bit, 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:09.880 but they were still arming and ring. They were like, 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.559 show me some actual scientific research first. 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:17.000 Yes. See, Look, that whole dialogue pisses me off because 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:20.440 it makes me just like so frustrated, because I feel 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:24.720 like it's so ingrained in our society that contraception is 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:28.840 a woman's responsibility. And I think the reason why that 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:32.720 pisses me off so much is because women are expected 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:38.240 not only to carry children for nine months, they're also 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:42.760 expected to deliver that child out of a very small place, 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:47.000 and they're also expected to go through menopause. So I mean, 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:52.160 I think that probably shows a lack of maturity, I 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:55.559 would say on some of your friend's parts who aren't 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.920 really keen and who are worried about the side effects, 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.200 because I mean, as I mentioned to you before, like 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:06.120 I've gone through ten years of trauma having contraception, So 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.960 I mean it would be amazing for men to step up, 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.840 even if they get a bit of a headache, or 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.200 even if they're going to gain a little bit away. 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.320 Because we've been dealing with that our whole lives. 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:21.760 So have you spoken to Michael about this pill? Would 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.480 Michael be happy to take it? Yeah? 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.800 So I've spoken to Michael about this and he said 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.760 that if there is a pill that's approved form men, 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.960 he would be more than happy to take on that responsibility, 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.360 which obviously is the correct answer. 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:38.040 Yeah. 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.320 I mean, Michael did make a joke and was like, 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:41.880 but I want to have a baby, so maybe I 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:47.080 wouldn't take it. Oh my god, don't baby trat me. 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:54.480 Being responsible for birth control, in my opinion, should be 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:59.760 a male's responsibility because men are fertile every single day 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:00.440 of the year. 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.600 If you have like your fertility. 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:07.160 It's fine, And women are fertile for about a week 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.319 every month, So I mean, you would think that it 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.000 would be a male responsibility. 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.600 Wouldn't that come down to more communication then, Like, shouldn't 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:17.280 a woman say this is my most fertile time, let's 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:19.640 take precaution around this week. 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.160 I mean yeah, but I think it's just always been 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:27.520 a woman's responsibility in society, Like the only two things 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:31.360 that a man can do is use condoms or get 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:36.120 a vasectomy to prevent an unwanted pregnancy. Whereas women have 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.920 all these options, so people feel like, well, it probably 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:43.760 should be her responsibility people in their like teens and 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:47.680 twenties who are having sex. I feel like guys would 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.240 want to be able to have that option to protect 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:55.800 themselves from unwanted pregnancies or that baby trapping that no 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.480 one likes to talk about, but like guys are scared 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:02.160 of happening, or I mean, these things have happened. I 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:07.040 know people who have had kids when the guy didn't want. 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:08.960 To, there'd be a lot of celebrities that would want 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.040 to take it. Like do you hear that story about 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.400 how Drake puts the tabasco in his condom? 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:14.760 No, what happened. 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.280 So when he has sex with the girl and he 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.080 takes the condom off, he'd put it away in the bathroom, 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:21.920 but he put a bit of tabasco in there because 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:25.360 he'd had girls trying to put it back inside of 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.600 them to get pregnant and baby trap him. So she 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:29.600 used the sperm that was in the condom, but he'd 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.600 already put tabasco in there, So when up her vagina 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.080 and like burnt her. Have you know that was a 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:36.800 couple of months ago, that story got leaked. 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:38.320 No, I've never heard. 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:40.320 I'll find it and I'll show it to you. 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:46.640 Look, I think that contraception should be an individual responsibility. 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:50.440 Like if I'm having sex with someone and I've chosen 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:53.720 to have unprotected sex, which we absolutely do not condone, 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.320 and where's your head at? You should be able to 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.880 protect yourself. And it shouldn't just be women who can 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:05.160 protect themselves as well. Well, Okay, Matt, we've spoke about 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.800 individuals and how it should be their choice if they 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:12.000 want to protect themselves, but let's talk about people in relationships, 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:16.640 because I think that the male contraception really benefits people 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:17.640 in relationships. 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:22.000 I agree, because you can't always trust a bloke that's 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.640 going to say he's on the pill. Imagine these one 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:26.600 night stands and a guy's like, no, no, no, don't worry, 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:27.320 I'm on the pill. 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:30.480 But I mean, are they really going to lie if 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:34.720 they could potentially cause an unwanted pregnancy? 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:39.200 A dumb, horny eighteen to nineteen year old boy probably would. 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:43.040 You can't trust him, You can't, Like, he just wants 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:44.320 to get in and out, he wants to do what 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:44.880 he needs to do. 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.240 Yeah, but that's just immature. And I just like I 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.080 can't buy into that dialogue. I think if you're having sex, 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:54.080 that comes down to sex ed and really like, if 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.080 you're having sex with someone, you need to be on 0:16:56.120 --> 0:17:00.320 top of that. And I think if you think that 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.360 a kid at nineteen is going to have sex with 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.760 someone and lie about being on the male contraceptive pill, 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:11.200 we have bigger issues in our society then, because. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:11.760 You know what I mean. 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.320 And even surely if they did lie about it and 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.320 they said, Okay, I'm on the male pill, surely as 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:22.040 soon as that horniness spark has left their body, like 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:26.480 with other things, that they'd be like, oops, sorry, my 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:28.600 horniness got the better of me, and we probably should 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:30.560 go take the morning after pill, right. 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.680 Yeah, hopefully, because I mean, or else he'd be someone's 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.840 baby daddy paying child support for the next eighteen years. 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:38.760 He'd be liable for that baby. 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.439 All right, So let's talk about relationships. Anna, this is 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:45.600 more for you than me. If this male contraceptive becomes 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.960 in store and it's accessible, would you want Michael to 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:49.320 take it? 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:52.720 I mean, yeah, I think I've put my body through 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:57.560 Helen back, not just physically but also emotionally mentally, and 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:01.040 you know, I've been on contraception for eleven years, and 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:02.960 I think, you know, it would be nice to give 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.000 my body a break and to be able to just 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.960 like balance out those hormones. And yeah, if I didn't 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:09.879 want to have a baby, I would love for Michael 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:11.760 to take the male contraception. 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.560 Is there any side effects of taking women's contraception for 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:16.040 too long? 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.360 Yeah, there's like so many side effects. When I posted 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.840 this on social media, this girl actually DMed me and 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:25.280 she said to me that she was only allowed to 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:29.240 be on contraception for three years, that's what the doctor 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:32.240 told her, and any longer than that and it would 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:35.040 do some serious damage to her body. There was also 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.919 another girl who said that she had a brain humor 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:42.480 because of contraception. People have strokes all the time because 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.720 of contraception. As amazing as the science is to be 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:48.480 able to prevent pregnancy ninety nine point nine percent of 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:52.400 the time, like, there are subsequent effects. And I think 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:56.600 society has expected women to just take on this burden 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.880 essentially because it is a burden and we've just worn 0:18:59.920 --> 0:19:02.760 it for years and years and years, and like, people 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:06.240 do stay on contraception for the majority of their life 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:10.679 until they hit menopause to prevent unwanted pregnancies. And you know, 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:12.879 I do believe that it is time for men to 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.840 step up. And I'm pretty disappointed, if I'm being honest, 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:20.359 that it's taken until twenty twenty two for there even 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.159 to be any sort of breakthrough when it's been around 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:27.639 for so many years. 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.880 All right, so this is a massive breakthrough in modern medicine, Anna, 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.560 But when we finally get access to this, it's going 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:35.919 to be a game changer. And hopefully there's a lot 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:37.720 of men out there that stand up and take this 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:42.119 responsibility and burden off their partner and they take the 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.200 male contraceptive pill. How do you see the next couple 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:46.240 of years playing out with this? 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:50.280 Look, I think when we finally get access to this, 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:53.080 which I'm hoping will be sooner rather than later, but 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:57.840 I don't see this really making headway onto our shelves 0:19:57.880 --> 0:19:59.560 for at least two to three. 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:00.959