1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: The state government is creating a new transport strategy and 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: you're invited to contribute to it. It's said to guide 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: the future of the transport network for the next three decades. 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Let's find out some information. Tom kots And Tona's Transport 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: minister on. 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: The line, good morning, Good morning Matshi. 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: What do you hope to achieve here. We've got a 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: few strategies underway on rail and a few other things already. 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: Don't we they're planning strategies. They're more about planning for 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: the short term ten years. What we're actually looking here 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 2: is what is the long term movement of freight, what 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: is the long term movement of public transport? How do 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: people want to move around their local communities, how do 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: they want to move around from home to work? And 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: what kind of transport are they looking for? So just 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: to distinguish the two plans, the plans that we've got 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: in place now are about getting the ones we've already funded. 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: Are the ones the planning strategies to try and get 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: people to them from now and Bark to the city, 20 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: to and from a finger and of course further out 21 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: north through the Gader Line into Adelaide. This is a 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: more holistic strategy about the entire city and the entire state, 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 2: about granular detail into people's neighborhoods and suburbs. For example, 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: how far will you walk to a bus stop? Are 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 2: you prepared to catch a bus to a train station? 26 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: Are you prepared to change modes? Will you use on 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 2: demand bus service, leave your car at home, get drop 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: loop at a train station if the train is more frequent. 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: Will you catch two trains? Will you catch two trains? 30 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 2: How do you want your suburb to look in terms 31 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: of public transport? Would you be willing to have a 32 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: tram down your main road? Would that impact you? These 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: are all the questions we are asking people, and we're 34 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: trying to give them visualizations of exactly how it would 35 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: look so you can get the VR experience, a virtuality 36 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: experience with these goggles. At all these places they're setting up, 37 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: we can go in have a look about what kind 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: of density you want, if there is high density, what 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: kind of public transport? Me do you have to try 40 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: and make sure we can map this properly Because the 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 2: biggest problem we face in this country, and we've done 42 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 2: this pot of experience through the federal government nationally, all 43 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: the States and a Commonwath combined have spent thirty billion 44 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: dollars over the last decade just catching up to try 45 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: and beat congestion because we haven't done the planning previously. 46 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 2: So if we do the plane properly, now, can we 47 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: avoid those costs and make sure we get it right 48 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 2: from the beginning, so we have that long term thinking 49 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: in place. 50 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, and that makes sense. But I can tell 51 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: you in Adelaide, and I'll give you an example. Right, 52 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: I occasionally catch a bus from a stop fifteen out 53 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: in the suburbs into the city, transfer to another bus 54 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: to get me home. And if I only wait at 55 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: both of those stops for literally a couple of minutes 56 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: before a bus comes, which occasionally happens that way, and 57 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: that plays out very nicely, it's still takes me almost 58 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: an hour. Right. So if I and that's from a 59 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: stop fifteen out to the city and then the city 60 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: out and walking to the next stop and all that. Now, 61 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: if I was to pay you know, three to four 62 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: times that bus fare and call an uber, it's a 63 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: fifteen minute trip. 64 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: That's what you're up against, exactly and exactly right. 65 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: And this is why people won't catch a bus to 66 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: a train station to then catch a train. If it's 67 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: quicker for them to jump in a car and take 68 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: that trip, and Adelaide has that advantage, that's what you're 69 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: up against. 70 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: Here, and that's exactly right. So, for example, the on 71 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: demand service that we've got in Mount Barker through Kio Ride, 72 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: what they're getting people being picked up at their home 73 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: with maybe one or two stops before they get to 74 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: the bus interchange, and it's working quickly and lots of them. 75 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: If we can get on demand services working more efficiently, 76 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: if we can have dedicated bus lanes where you're not 77 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: stopping as often, where people can be get this faster 78 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: than driving, I think that can work. Now. The question 79 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: for us is can we plan for that into the future, 80 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: because as urban sprawl occurs and people are moving bigger 81 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: distances to get to and from work, and how we 82 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 2: move our freight and how that impacts on our road 83 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 2: network is all things we have to plan for now. 84 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: So what we're asking South Australians is what is it 85 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: you and diviit? How do you move around? And we 86 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: want you to have a say in it. Now we 87 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: can just go away and plan this ourselves and come 88 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: up with a solution. But we get better outcomes and 89 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: people like you and others. We say, well, this is 90 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: my lift experience. I want to catch public transport. I 91 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 2: don't want to pay for car parking in the insurance 92 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: of my vehicle. I want to catch I want to 93 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: catch a bus, but it's taken me an hour where 94 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: it will take me fifteen minutes in a Nuba. How 95 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: do you fix that? These are the problems. These are 96 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: the real life situations and scenario we need to hear 97 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: about so we can fix because there's no good ass 98 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 2: just building more roads, because building more roads won't solve anything. 99 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: There are just need more traffic. Yeah, look, what we 100 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: have to do is make sure our public transport is 101 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: world class. 102 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: And that's I think for a city like Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, 103 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: something they need to look at big our city being 104 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: you know, the size it is, the sort of narrow 105 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: length it is, and having people work in their own 106 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: you know, relative areas. Sure, some people would travel vast 107 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: distances from all Dinger or Seacliff to the city, Gauler 108 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: to the city. Others tend to live and work, you know, 109 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: within a relatively short distance from their home, and that's 110 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: the beauty of Adelaide. The fact is we're a very 111 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 1: car centric city and you might not want to build 112 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: more roads, but you just look at the congestion on 113 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: the Southeastern Freeway and people, because of the nature of 114 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: Adelaide buy cars and use cars. 115 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: That's right, Matthew. But if we can build a mass 116 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: transit public transport system from Mount Barker to the city 117 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: that compete the time of the car, we can decongest 118 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: the Southeastern Freeway. The question for us is is are 119 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: people who are living in Mount Barker are they working 120 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: in the city or are they working locally from these 121 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: they're working in the city, well, yes, but the other 122 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: Hills is a lot larger than just Mount Barker and 123 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: it goes over a longer distance, so there are a 124 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: lot of people who are getting onto the freeway from 125 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: different points. So what we're trying to understand is we 126 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 2: want to do the long term thinking for the long 127 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: term planning so we don't make these mistakes made in 128 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 2: the past. 129 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I could ask Nick Champion the same question as 130 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: I'm about to ask you. Should planning and transport be 131 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: back in the same area because they're clearly linked. 132 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: Look, Nick Champion and I work very closely. The GARP 133 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 2: and the transport strategy that are out to consultation will 134 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: be released together. We are working together to make sure 135 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:11,119 Speaker 2: that we are absolutely harmonizing our strategies. The Planning Unit 136 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: and the Transport Unit are in the same building. The 137 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: bureaucracies are in the same building. They talk to each other, 138 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: they know each other, and they work collaboratively. Who the 139 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: minister is, who they report to is not as important 140 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: as that sort of and I hate using this term 141 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: that cross pollination that occurs within the public sector. So 142 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: they are working collaborably together. It doesn't really matter if 143 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: you're in the same department or otherwise. But as long 144 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: as we are all making sure that when we do 145 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: build new developments, that the buses follow, the trains follow, 146 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: the schools follow, the water follows, sewerage follows, the power follows, 147 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: that we all do these things sequentially and make sure 148 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: that we can do it one lowest cost, two fastest 149 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: to make sure people can actually get our home, and 150 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: three making sure we maintain the amenity we have across 151 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: our entire suburbs, so we don't want people thinking there's 152 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: better public transport connections in Torrentsville than there is in 153 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: count Dilla. Therefore we stay in Torrentsville. We want those 154 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: connections to be equal across the city. Now we haven't 155 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: achieved that yet, but that's all we're aiming to do. 156 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: And we also want to make sure that the active transport, 157 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: the cycling, the walking, keeping communities linked together isn't being 158 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: divided by massive, massive gashes in the middle of a 159 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: suburb by building roads. We want to talk to people 160 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: about all these things, so we're not just discovering congestion 161 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 2: building up and we turn up with a massive bridge 162 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: or a massive underpass, demolishing hundreds and hundreds of homes 163 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: and businesses to build it. They're actually planning this long 164 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: term and making sure that we do this properly so 165 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: we don't have that destruction that comes along with retract 166 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: fitting roads. 167 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: There are VR sessions. People can go along and put 168 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: on the goggles and have a look at what you're 169 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: talking about here. Transport Strategy sat at various locations, including 170 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: in the city and quite a few suburbs and regions 171 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: over the next little while, and people can jump on 172 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 1: that website Transport Strategy Dot say dot gup dot you. 173 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: I understand you're off to an announcement a media conference 174 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: about the race, the Adelaide five hundred. Any insights you 175 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: can share at this stage, it's five minutes away. I understand. 176 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: Well, there's two things we're doing. We're announcing obviously pre 177 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: public transport to them from the race and for people 178 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: minus who are accompanied by a ticket holder, they get 179 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 2: onto a bus for free because they also get into 180 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: the race for free. And we're also announcing the release 181 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: on the twenty fifth anniversary of the five hundred twenty 182 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: five exclusive number plates number one to twenty five that 183 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: will go for auction, so we people love these personalized 184 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: number plates. They'll become a properly right so they're able 185 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 2: to buy and solve them, and they'll be unique and 186 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: no one else will release another number like this, so 187 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: it'll be something people will be very interested in. You 188 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: might remember, Matchew, we recently sold the number eight historical 189 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 2: number place for the two million dollars, so every time 190 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: we saw these plates, all that money goes into Road 191 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: Matrix to try and fix a lot of our vast 192 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: network that is so desperately in need of more maintenance. 193 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: Through our Regional South Australia. 194 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: All right, appreciate your time this morning. That media conference 195 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: minutes away, Thank you, thank you. Transport Minister Tom kutsantonis 196 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: on a strategy that you can have your say on 197 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: and this will help guide government decisions for the next 198 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: thirty years. That website again, Transport strategy dot SA, dot 199 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: CoV dot AU. All right, Transport Strategy dot SA dot 200 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: dot you