Speaker 1: Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.
Speaker 2: Good Evening tonight to the Albanezy government blames the weather
Speaker 2: and Donald Trump for their budget position. Ray Hadley will
Speaker 2: get stuck in live on the show Peter Duvlan's Trump
Speaker 2: like push to deport dual citizen criminals.
Speaker 3: The left are up in arms.
Speaker 2: The Victorian crime wave is so bad that Steve Price
Speaker 2: was caught up in the aftermath of a robbery.
Speaker 3: He'll tell us about it shortly. Plus Liberal leader in.
Speaker 2: New South Wales Mark Speakman caught out negotiating with the
Speaker 2: anti Israel Greens after claiming he'd done no such thing.
Speaker 2: My fire interview with the Greens where they insist on
Speaker 2: Palestinian protesters having the right to harass Jews outside synagogues.
Speaker 2: They should be able to harass Jews outside synagogues.
Speaker 4: I absolutely stand with them.
Speaker 2: That interview coming up. Plus the White House bags Israel
Speaker 2: strikes on her muss. That's all on the show tonight.
Speaker 2: But first, economists have warned loudly that Labor needed to
Speaker 2: keep its pre election spending in check because the inflation
Speaker 2: battle wasn't over. Economists said it was premature for the
Speaker 2: RBA to cut rates when inflation wasn't back in target
Speaker 2: range yet both the Albanezy government and the RBA effectively
Speaker 2: declared mission accomplished when they celebrated a rate cut last month.
Speaker 2: We warned at the time and all the economists on
Speaker 2: the show said that this was reckless when inflation was
Speaker 2: still a problem, the cost of living crisis still hurting families.
Speaker 2: Well exactly a month later, those warnings have come to pass. Today,
Speaker 2: the OECD said it expects inflation to be slightly higher
Speaker 2: in Australia and globally.
Speaker 3: It also has.
Speaker 2: Downgrade did GDP growth projections for this year and next,
Speaker 2: and the Secretary General matiirs Cormon said that inflation will
Speaker 2: remain higher for longer. Of course, he pointed to global
Speaker 2: uncertainty and Trump's tariffs in part, but he also warned
Speaker 2: that fiscal and monetary policy should remain, in his words, prudent.
Speaker 2: Part of his message is that governments should be cautious
Speaker 2: with spending.
Speaker 5: You know, in the end, you know, it's all about
Speaker 5: of what is fiscally affordable and physically sustainable as well.
Speaker 5: And part of our advice to countries around the world,
Speaker 5: including in Europe, is to keep an eye on debt
Speaker 5: sustainability on the need to rebuild fiscal buffers and fiscal resilience.
Speaker 2: Now, economists have repeatedly warned that if Labour's records spending continued,
Speaker 2: inflation would rise again. This is the last thing we
Speaker 2: all need. And yet this says precisely what's at risk
Speaker 2: of happening. Government spending is at record levels, with a
Speaker 2: thirty percent rise on long run average. Yet the Albanezy government,
Speaker 2: of course, doesn't accept any responsibility for rising inflation and
Speaker 2: slowing growth. They blame Donald Trump, China, the Russia Ukraine War,
Speaker 2: even the Middle East.
Speaker 3: And Treasurer Jim.
Speaker 2: Chalmers reinforced that narrative today in a major speech.
Speaker 6: The global economy is volatile and it's unpredictable. There's a
Speaker 6: new US administration disrupting trade, there's a slowdown in China,
Speaker 6: there's war in Eastern Europe and a very fragile ceasefire
Speaker 6: in the Middle East. Division and dissatisfaction around the world.
Speaker 2: And of course just hours later that ceasefire in the
Speaker 2: Middle East is no longer. And he also spoke about
Speaker 2: the weather and the impact of ex tropical Cyclone Alfred.
Speaker 3: But it's really.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump who is becoming the villain for the Albanezy government.
Speaker 2: He'll be single handedly blamed for poor economic conditions here
Speaker 2: in Australia.
Speaker 6: It's clear now that the rules that underpinned global economic
Speaker 6: engagement for more than forty years are being rewritten. The
Speaker 6: whole world has changed. We've seen that change accelerate since
Speaker 6: Inauguration Day in the US.
Speaker 2: But The Australian's Political editor Simon Benson writes today that
Speaker 2: the Albanezy government has never accepted responsibility for rising inflation
Speaker 2: or slow growth. It's always been global factors overseas.
Speaker 3: Was never their own economic management.
Speaker 2: Benson writes it has been a similar story of all
Speaker 2: Labour's budgets since it came to office in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: without Trump, and none of it has been the government's fault.
Speaker 3: The rest of the planets to blame. He says.
Speaker 2: The narrative was much the same in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: but without the Trump factor. This time, however, the new
Speaker 2: boogeyman is Trump, and he claims the US President's influence
Speaker 2: on the global economy is seismic. But Benson says Trump
Speaker 2: will be a convenient cover for what he calls a
Speaker 2: sea of red ink that will underline the budget position
Speaker 2: over the next decade. Now, the problem with this argument
Speaker 2: is that the impact of Trump's steel and aluminium tariffs
Speaker 2: to our economy is minuscule. The Australian reports that Treasury
Speaker 2: Estimates estimates the direct hit to GDP from steel and
Speaker 2: aluminium tariffs would be less than noer point not two
Speaker 2: percent by twenty thirty. But it's clear categorically now that
Speaker 2: the time of federal surpluses is over, and this is
Speaker 2: why Albanezi was so reluctant to hold a federal budget,
Speaker 2: because he loved to be able to point to the
Speaker 2: surpluses as proof that he was a stable economic manager.
Speaker 7: We also have been determined to return the budget to surplus,
Speaker 7: replacing those liberal deficits with labor surpluses. All of these
Speaker 7: measures aimed at alleviating cost of living pressures, whilst at
Speaker 7: the same time delivering two budget surpluses.
Speaker 3: For the first time.
Speaker 7: In two decades, we contributed additional funding in our budgets
Speaker 7: while delivering two budget surpluses. Again, easy to remember the
Speaker 7: number of budget surpluses under the former government.
Speaker 2: But now that he can't deliver a surplus, he's going
Speaker 2: to blame Donald Trump. Trump, who won't take his phone cause,
Speaker 2: who won't invite him to the White House, who won't
Speaker 2: meet with his ambassador, and who won't roll out the
Speaker 2: red carpet for a left leaning pro Palestinian, weak and
Speaker 2: uncharismatic Prime Minister Well Albert Easy can blame Trump all
Speaker 2: he likes. The revised inflation forecasts make it clear now
Speaker 2: that the quarter of a present rate cut was premature
Speaker 2: and the IBA board also has.
Speaker 3: A lot to answer for now.
Speaker 2: Throughout this anti Semitism crisis, right around the country we
Speaker 2: have begged for tough leadership and for strong action. Well
Speaker 2: tonight I can reveal that New South Wales Liberal leader,
Speaker 2: a liberal leader, Mark Speakman, worked with the anti Israel Greens,
Speaker 2: to set up a parliamentary inquiry to examine the laws
Speaker 2: that ban Palestinian protests outside of synagogues, and that tough
Speaker 2: and hate speech Speakman sided with the Greens and the
Speaker 2: pro Palestinian movement to demand an inquiry into when Premier
Speaker 2: Chris Mins knew that the caravan didn't pose a live
Speaker 2: terror threat. Now this inquiry has been used by the
Speaker 2: Greens as a backdoor to repeal the hate speech laws,
Speaker 2: the laws that Mark Speakman claims to support but if
Speaker 2: he truly supported them, he wouldn't be calling for an
Speaker 2: inquiry into the way in which they were introduced. This
Speaker 2: is truly utterly extraordinary from Speakman and the New South
Speaker 2: Wales Coalition. Now Mark Speakman this afternoon on two GB
Speaker 2: Radio denied that anyone in the coalition, as far as
Speaker 2: he was aware, had negotiated with the Greens on this inquiry.
Speaker 8: Have a listen so with the inquiry the way this works,
Speaker 8: and there were a lot of parliamentary inquiries and lots
Speaker 8: of issues for our listeners that may not follow this
Speaker 8: process closely. But how did the terms of reference, what
Speaker 8: the inquiry looks at, how is that developed? Do you
Speaker 8: sit down with Sue Higginson, for instance, he was on
Speaker 8: my show yesterday from the Greens to develop the plan.
Speaker 9: Well, I have had absolutely no communication with Sue Higginson
Speaker 9: or any Green on this. I don't believe any of
Speaker 9: my colleagues in the Upper House have either, But do
Speaker 9: you have to ask them there? But I certainly had
Speaker 9: no communication with her directly or indirectly.
Speaker 2: Well, he might need to clarify that statement because it
Speaker 2: was wrong. Sue Higginson, she's the Greens MLC. She's on
Speaker 2: my show tonight. It was a fiery interview. She told
Speaker 2: me today on the phone and again in this interview
Speaker 2: that she had negotiated the terms of reference with the
Speaker 2: coalition and that it went back and forth. I also
Speaker 2: spoke this afternoon with Liberal MLC Damien Tudorhope and he
Speaker 2: confirmed that his office had been involved in negotiating the
Speaker 2: terms of reference with the Libertarians and the Greens. Now,
Speaker 2: the terms of reference call for an inquiry into the
Speaker 2: relationship between the Dural caravan incident and the hate speech
Speaker 2: laws along with the laws that ban protests outside synagogues.
Speaker 2: To be very clear about this, this is what the
Speaker 2: terms of reference state.
Speaker 3: Have a look.
Speaker 2: They say, any references to the incident in any briefing
Speaker 2: materials prepared the development, introduction and debate, and it goes
Speaker 2: through the laws the legislation there. Now, the inquiry will
Speaker 2: be open to submissions and no doubt one of them
Speaker 2: will be from the Palestine Action Group who want the
Speaker 2: laws repealed to be able to protest outside of synagogues.
Speaker 3: Have a look.
Speaker 10: These laws are unconstitutional, they're undemocratic, they never should have
Speaker 10: been passed. They were rushed through based on lies and
Speaker 10: deception by this government. They need to be repealed immediately.
Speaker 10: Chris Mins should actually resign in disgrace given the role
Speaker 10: that he's played in lying to the Parliament and the
Speaker 10: people of New South Wales. There are very few places
Speaker 10: left in Sydney where anyone could protest if these laws
Speaker 10: are allowed.
Speaker 2: To stand, protest anywhere else, just not outside a place
Speaker 2: of worship. Now, that was the Palestinian Action Group outside
Speaker 2: the New Southwes Supreme Court today where they are launching
Speaker 2: a legal challenge against the laws. That, as I said,
Speaker 2: band protests outside of synagogues, So they want the right
Speaker 2: to harass Jews outside of a synagogue, a place of worship,
Speaker 2: a place where people pray, that has nothing to do
Speaker 2: with the Middle East. These are Mark Speakman's bedfellows. How
Speaker 2: embarrassing for a liberal leader. Now you may recall that
Speaker 2: late last year it unfolded as we went to air
Speaker 2: on this show Jews were locked down in the Great
Speaker 2: Synagogue in the City of Sydney because of a Rabbid
Speaker 2: mob outside barring their exit. Again, we've seen protests outside
Speaker 2: synagogues in Melbourne two Again the Greens and these pro
Speaker 2: Palestinian protesters are the bedfellows of Mark Speakman. The very
Speaker 2: idea built into the terms of reference is that these
Speaker 2: laws were introduced in a rush in response to the
Speaker 2: notion that.
Speaker 3: The caravan was a terror threat. But that's rubbish.
Speaker 2: As Alex Rifchen pointed out here last night, Jewish community
Speaker 2: groups have been campaigning for stronger hate speech laws, particularly
Speaker 2: since October seven, but even before that.
Speaker 11: For a long time we've advocated for stricter laws against
Speaker 11: incitement of this sort. It's not about speech, it's not
Speaker 11: about the exchange of ideas. We're talking about words that
Speaker 11: are intended to incite hatred and violence in our communities.
Speaker 12: That's something extremely serious. And after October seven, we of
Speaker 12: course saw a whole series of clerics again glorifying the
Speaker 12: Hammas attacks, encouraging the followers to do likewise, speaking specifically
Speaker 12: of Jews in the most violent hatreul terms imaginable, and
Speaker 12: there's no real remedy criminally, and.
Speaker 2: In fact, the laws are so weak that Jewish groups
Speaker 2: have had to take their own action against hate preachers
Speaker 2: because the police were unable to do so, and the
Speaker 2: ECAJ launched legal action in the Federal Court against one preacher,
Speaker 2: for example, with some haddad for hate speech, for comments
Speaker 2: like this.
Speaker 13: Towards the end the times, when the Muslims will be
Speaker 13: fighting the Jews, the trees will speak, the stone will speak,
Speaker 13: and I will say, oh Muslim, oh believer, there is
Speaker 13: a yohodi behind me, Come and kill him Manhaula, the
Speaker 13: Habiyun ha ula yakum, almost Saha yina.
Speaker 2: And I couldn't play all of their sermons. There was
Speaker 2: so much more. Police couldn't take action because it didn't
Speaker 2: meet the criminal threshold.
Speaker 3: A new southeles.
Speaker 2: Police have said on the record in public that tougher
Speaker 2: laws are needed because the current ones are impossible to
Speaker 2: prosecute either the hate preachers or the aggressive protesters, even
Speaker 2: if it is anti Semitism or inciting violence.
Speaker 14: Whilst I find the things that you're talking about offensive,
Speaker 14: they need to meet.
Speaker 3: Illegals prayers the Jews, f the Jews. That is hate speech,
Speaker 3: that is racism that can't be interpreted in any other way.
Speaker 14: I'm not arguing that it's hate speech, but doesn't meet
Speaker 14: a criminal threshold for the police to prosecute. That's the question.
Speaker 2: So clearly police felt they couldn't take action with the
Speaker 2: current laws now. The Greens don't support these laws at all.
Speaker 2: And I spoke, as I said, with Green's MLC Sue
Speaker 2: Higginson today and she told me that she wants this
Speaker 2: inquiry because she doesn't support the laws all the way
Speaker 2: they were introduced. She thinks the entire anti Semitism crisis
Speaker 2: has been confected. She supports the Palestinians who want to
Speaker 2: be able to protest outside synagogues, and she wants other
Speaker 2: groups like the LGBTQI sector to be included in the
Speaker 2: hate speech laws, which is absurd. Yet in the Lower House, Speakman,
Speaker 2: the Liberal leader, is backing the same attack as the
Speaker 2: Greens on the Men's government.
Speaker 15: On what date were you first briefed that the Dural
Speaker 15: caravan incident could be a fake terrorism plot?
Speaker 2: So that Speakman repeating the use of the word fake
Speaker 2: that I spoke about last night, perpetuating the narrative that
Speaker 2: this is all a fake crisis, a fake antisemitism threat. Well,
Speaker 2: Chris Men's answered that police have already said publicly that
Speaker 2: they ruled out it was a genuine live terror threat
Speaker 2: on February the twenty first, but they weren't ready to
Speaker 2: go public until March the tenth because they had counter
Speaker 2: surveillance operations running. Now Chris Men's caught out this nonsense
Speaker 2: of a fake narrative.
Speaker 16: I want to make it clear, however, that despite it
Speaker 16: not being terrorism as it's defined, this did instill terror
Speaker 16: into members of our community. It was designed to stroke
Speaker 16: fear into large segments of the New South Wales population.
Speaker 1: And the threat was real.
Speaker 16: Police were alleging court that individuals tried to fire bomb
Speaker 16: and destroy property owned in the eastern suburbs of Sydney
Speaker 16: by members of the Jewish community. There was a childcare
Speaker 16: center adjacent to a synagogue in Marubri that was burned
Speaker 16: to the ground as part of this alleged plot. There
Speaker 16: were several other attempts in New South Wales by those
Speaker 16: that are named by police, charged by police to instill
Speaker 16: fear and intimidation in the community.
Speaker 2: The Premier also made it clear that these laws banning
Speaker 2: protests outside of places of worship and on hate speech
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with the caravan.
Speaker 16: Setting aside the operations of Kissinger and those who are
Speaker 16: alleged to be part of this organized crime gang, there
Speaker 16: is inarguably been a rise of anti Semitic racist attacks
Speaker 16: in New South Wales over the set and it needed
Speaker 16: to be met with comprehensive hate speech laws.
Speaker 2: Now, Mark Speakman interrupted Chris Mins to again press the
Speaker 2: premiere on when he learned that the caravan plot wasn't
Speaker 2: a live terror threat, as if this is relevant when
Speaker 2: there were fire bombings, and Premier Chris Mins was rightly
Speaker 2: furious in his response.
Speaker 16: I've seen the leader of the opposition slide under a
Speaker 16: closed door. He has no backbone on these issues or
Speaker 16: anyone else is to Speaker, we will not repeal these laws.
Speaker 16: They're too important for New South Wales.
Speaker 3: Now, we have.
Speaker 2: All watched Anthony Albanezi speak in such a weak fashion
Speaker 2: about anti Semitism for what seventeen months now, It's quite
Speaker 2: frankly astonishing to see such magnificent conviction from a labor leader.
Speaker 2: Chris Mins is showing the entire Labor Party nationally how
Speaker 2: you can show leadership on these important issues use of
Speaker 2: national security and public safety. It's Albanezi who wanted to
Speaker 2: downplay the antisemitism crisis. It's Tony Burke who seized on
Speaker 2: the police claim that the spate of attacks were not
Speaker 2: motivated by antisemitism.
Speaker 3: Claims we now know to be wrong. And Mark Speakman
Speaker 3: is playing right into Albanese's hands here right before a
Speaker 3: federal election and Speakman claimed that MINS had caused additional
Speaker 3: stress for the Jewish community.
Speaker 15: The Jewish community has faced enough stress, enough pain, enough
Speaker 15: anguish in recent months without that being added to by
Speaker 15: the fear that there was a plot of a mess
Speaker 15: terrorist attack.
Speaker 2: This shows how out of touch Speakman is with the
Speaker 2: Jewish community because the only extra stress and anguish being
Speaker 2: put on the community is by Speakman himself in siding
Speaker 2: with the Greens to.
Speaker 3: Give a voice to those who oppose the laws that
Speaker 3: actually protect us Australians.
Speaker 2: It's a warped view from a Liberal leader who couldn't
Speaker 2: be more out of sync with Peter Dutton's position. And
Speaker 2: let me tell you the Federal Coalition is bewildered at
Speaker 2: this shocking incompetence of Speakmen. Now, this parliamentary inquiry he
Speaker 2: supports will give a voice to all of those who
Speaker 2: insist anti Semitism isn't a problem. It will give a
Speaker 2: platform to the Greens, the pro Palestinian movement, maybe even
Speaker 2: the hate preachers. To quote Shakespeare in the tempest misery
Speaker 2: acquaints a man with strange bedfellows and mark my words,
Speaker 2: this saga has exposed Speakman's failings as leader. If he
Speaker 2: pushes ahead in working with the Greens, this will be
Speaker 2: the start of his leadership demise. All right, Ray Hadley's
Speaker 2: coming up a bit later, and my fire interview with
Speaker 2: the Greens MLC or so a bit later in the show.
Speaker 2: But now let's bring in our Tuesday panel from a
Speaker 2: Speaker of the House, Bronman Bishop and Sky News host
Speaker 2: Steve Price.
Speaker 3: Welcome to you both.
Speaker 2: Now, step I actually want to start with you and
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to see you've got a broken arm. There
Speaker 2: a sprayed it looks like now the crime wave in Victoria,
Speaker 2: you know we're talking about national security. The crime wave
Speaker 2: in Victoria is so bad that you were actually just
Speaker 2: caught up in the aftermath of a rubbery at a
Speaker 2: bottle shop.
Speaker 3: Tell us what happened.
Speaker 17: Yeah, this happened on Chapel Street in Melbourne today, bromin Gooday,
Speaker 17: Sharry and I was amazed at what had occurred. I
Speaker 17: walked into a liquor Land bottle shop in Chapel Street,
Speaker 17: which is you know, used to be a premier shopping
Speaker 17: strip in Melbourne. It's now full of drug add people,
Speaker 17: homeless people, people wandering around with machetes in the middle
Speaker 17: of the night. It's really become crime central. And this
Speaker 17: liquor Land bottle shop, when I walked in, the young
Speaker 17: fellow behind the counter and I met mention young deliberately
Speaker 17: because a lot of young people work in bottle shops,
Speaker 17: and he said, look, I'm sorry, I'm so upset, but
Speaker 17: just before you got here, two blokes wandered in, both
Speaker 17: carrying large bags. They went to the back of the
Speaker 17: store and unloaded from my freezer four hundred and fifty
Speaker 17: dollars worth of ready to drink vodka and bourbon cans
Speaker 17: and simply walked out of the store. No one attempted
Speaker 17: to stop them. The young guy behind the counter has
Speaker 17: been instructed by the bosses of Liquorland not to do it,
Speaker 17: and they just wandered off down the street. About a
Speaker 17: month ago, the same thing happened a Woolworths bottle shop
Speaker 17: just up the road. Young girl, first week on in
Speaker 17: a job. She was terrified as well. This is happening
Speaker 17: every day across Melbourne, and I suspect it probably happens
Speaker 17: in other parts of Australia and it just shows social
Speaker 17: the social fabric of the country is breaking down. It's
Speaker 17: pretty particularly bad in Melbourne, but I think it's bad.
Speaker 1: In other places as well.
Speaker 17: We've seen Alice Springs and the towns in northern Queensland exactly.
Speaker 17: I've just never witnessed this in my life, and I'm
Speaker 17: sure Bromin's never witnessed in.
Speaker 1: Her life either.
Speaker 17: I mean, when does it happen that someone just walks
Speaker 17: into a retail store, loads up what they want and
Speaker 17: calmly walk out. There's no police walking up and down
Speaker 17: the street. Police There'll be twenty minutes away.
Speaker 2: That happens in San Francisco, where theft has been decriminalized,
Speaker 2: and we've seen how San Francisco has ended up. But
Speaker 2: that's shocking, and you know, we feel so sorry for
Speaker 2: that young bloke who had to deal with that. But
Speaker 2: that message from Liquorland to their staff not to try
Speaker 2: and do anything, and that they've had to send that
Speaker 2: message brown because crime in Victoria and in Queensland, but
Speaker 2: you know in Victoria's is so bad at the moment.
Speaker 3: Now this is a really big issue.
Speaker 2: This is part of the reason Peter Darton has floated
Speaker 2: this idea, which some people have attacked as crazy, you know,
Speaker 2: deporting dual citizen criminals. But this is why he's floated
Speaker 2: this idea because people are so concerned about the wave
Speaker 2: of crime in Victoria and in Queensland and in Alice Springs.
Speaker 2: They're so concerned about public safety.
Speaker 18: Well they are, and they're concerned with the judicial activism
Speaker 18: that is preventing them from being deported. Now, Albanesi and Co.
Speaker 18: Try and paint that as being pro trump Ism, No,
Speaker 18: it is supporting the doctrine, the Howard doctrine that said
Speaker 18: we will determine who comes to this country and the
Speaker 18: manner in which they come, and that means if they
Speaker 18: come the wrong way, they should be sent away. And
Speaker 18: it is a commitment to was groundbreaking internationally, groundbreaking when
Speaker 18: Howards set that principle in the wake of the Trump
Speaker 18: What was the name of the Tampa. Yeah, the Tampa
Speaker 18: that in fact has duck as part of our doctrine
Speaker 18: that has adhered to in this country. So for it
Speaker 18: to be trying to be painted in any other way,
Speaker 18: but upholding that doctrine and ensuring that we are looking
Speaker 18: after the safety of our people, that we should be
Speaker 18: paying attention to. That's how if it was for the
Speaker 18: reason of judicial activism. And the question is this government
Speaker 18: says we have the right to legislate to say they
Speaker 18: will go if they commit these crimes and have dual citizenship.
Speaker 18: Judges say no, that's our responsibility and we have the jurisdiction.
Speaker 18: That's how the Pacific solution arose because they were outside
Speaker 18: of the judicial jurisdiction. And that is exactly what Peter
Speaker 18: Duttlan is talking about.
Speaker 2: I mean, Steve, I don't know if the Australian public
Speaker 2: have the appetite for another referendum, but the concept, I
Speaker 2: can say cut goriically because you know, when we called
Speaker 2: for suggestions for anti Semitism crisis, we got about, I
Speaker 2: don't know, nearly a thousand emails, and so many of
Speaker 2: them were deport the anti Semites. You know, there would
Speaker 2: be definite public support for criminals who have another citizenship
Speaker 2: leaving Australia.
Speaker 17: Look, I mean, I'll get sick and tired of the
Speaker 17: government saying this is all about trump Ism. I'm okay, Well,
Speaker 17: if it's about trump Ism, I'll tell you what. Millions
Speaker 17: of Australians saw television pitches today of Donald Trump's government
Speaker 17: rounding up a bunch of dangerous murderers, raping Venezuelans and
Speaker 17: putting them on aircraft and flying them out of the country.
Speaker 17: They're parked in some third country halfway through and they're
Speaker 17: going to be not back in America, and the American
Speaker 17: people are saying, thank god, we've got rid of these people.
Speaker 17: We've never wanted them here in the first place. Australians
Speaker 17: want the same strong action. Why should we import criminal
Speaker 17: types into Australia. They come, they get dual citizenship and
Speaker 17: think that they can just break the law. We have
Speaker 17: a crime gang problem in Melbourne that is out of control.
Speaker 17: Home invasions, carthifts, people like that went into that bottle
Speaker 17: shop today. Not all of them, but some of them
Speaker 17: come from migrant families and they have no control over
Speaker 17: their children. They let them roam the streets in the
Speaker 17: middle of the night and people are terrified. They hear
Speaker 17: a noise in the front yard. They think they're going
Speaker 17: to have someone with a machete in their lounge group.
Speaker 17: It's got to stop. And the Victorian labor government's been pathetic.
Speaker 17: They're going to bring in new bail Law's guests when
Speaker 17: they're going to be enacted later in the year, why
Speaker 17: wouldn't it be next week. If you're going to stop
Speaker 17: the sale of machetes, do it today, don't do it
Speaker 17: in November.
Speaker 3: No, one hundred percent right.
Speaker 2: And this is where again this plays into the federal
Speaker 2: election issue. And it's probably why just very quick response
Speaker 2: bron when probably why Victoria will be quite a good
Speaker 2: state for the Coalition at the federal election.
Speaker 18: I think that Victorians have suffered so much under such
Speaker 18: rotten state governments that they've seen that labor is bad
Speaker 18: for Victorians. And I think there is a change in attitude.
Speaker 18: And I do think that there is an awakening, shall
Speaker 18: we say, having been shut down under COVID, having been
Speaker 18: penalized left, right and center, with their police force seeming
Speaker 18: to be okay about arresting during COVID but not being
Speaker 18: able to control real crime, and allowing for drug injection
Speaker 18: rooms to be near schools, the whole box and guys,
Speaker 18: I think there is an awakening in Victoria that labor
Speaker 18: is not good for them.
Speaker 2: Awake for now, Awoke the woke an hour, awake, Steve
Speaker 2: Price Brow and Bishop apologies that it's a bit shot
Speaker 2: at tonight but great to have you on as always. Now,
Speaker 2: most commentators are predicting a minority Labor government at the
Speaker 2: federal election, but The Australian's chief political correspondent Jeff Chambers
Speaker 2: rites that as it stands, Dutton remains better placed than
Speaker 2: alban Easy to form a minority government. The Dutton pathway
Speaker 2: to victory is predicated on securing big swings in Labor
Speaker 2: and independent seats while fending off challenges in coalition territory,
Speaker 2: and Jeff Chambers joins me, now, Jeff, great to see
Speaker 2: you again. Look take us through Peter Dutton's path to
Speaker 2: victory here which seats will get in there?
Speaker 19: Hi, Sharry, so I just I wrote that piece a
Speaker 19: week ago, and as you know, a week is a
Speaker 19: long time in politics, and we've seen through both Newspoll
Speaker 19: and Freshwater that we are seeing that natural tightening around
Speaker 19: the poles, and there's multiple factors around that. So I
Speaker 19: think that the margin of error for Peter Dutton is
Speaker 19: very tight, but there certainly is a narrow path to victory.
Speaker 19: But in saying that a lot of things have to
Speaker 19: go right. I heard you talking earlier about Victoria. A
Speaker 19: big focus down in Victoria for the Liberal Party very
Speaker 19: optimistic that they can pick some seats up there like
Speaker 19: Aston Chisholm mckewen and potentially other seats there. But I
Speaker 19: think that the big state of New South Wales is
Speaker 19: where this election is one or lost. We've obviously got
Speaker 19: seats in Wa, Tasmania, Northern Territory, South Australia, handful in
Speaker 19: Queensland that'll be really important mathematically, but the big battle
Speaker 19: is in New South Wales and I think you know,
Speaker 19: Peter Dunton is fighting multiple fronts here, is fighting Labor,
Speaker 19: the Unions, Teals, the Greens, and in his own seat
Speaker 19: they're coming after him. He holds that tough seat of
Speaker 19: Dixon by a margin of one point seven percent, so
Speaker 19: there's a long way to go. Look on that talk
Speaker 19: about referendums putting aside the merit of that subject probably
Speaker 19: not something that in this part of the cycle you
Speaker 19: want to be talking about. But you know, I think
Speaker 19: heading into the budget week next week told that the
Speaker 19: work is done around policy and that they're ready to go,
Speaker 19: and I think that activity is going to pick up
Speaker 19: and a lot of his colleagues will be happy to
Speaker 19: start really having that contest of ideas.
Speaker 3: Just very quickly before you go.
Speaker 2: The Treasurer today blamed Trump, the cyclone, other overseas factors
Speaker 2: for you know how it's starting to impact here in
Speaker 2: terms of our growth forecasts, in terms of inflation, in
Speaker 2: terms of the.
Speaker 3: Budget bottom line.
Speaker 2: Do you think this sort of messaging will convince voters
Speaker 2: who are still hurting with the cost of living crisis.
Speaker 19: Look, I think with his fourth budget, which is the
Speaker 19: first time a Treasurer has handed down four budgets in
Speaker 19: a term since Ben Shiffley, Jim Charms will be hoping
Speaker 19: that he can use the budget as a platform and like,
Speaker 19: let's be real, this is updating forecasts, including some additional
Speaker 19: spends around cost of living. Probably not your typical fully
Speaker 19: fledged budget because it's a budget that many of them
Speaker 19: didn't think that they would hand down. In terms of
Speaker 19: talking about the doerm and gloom around the world, I
Speaker 19: don't think that it's necessarily untrue, but in terms of
Speaker 19: the actual impacts here and domestic homegrown inflation, these are
Speaker 19: challenges that can be met through your own actions. Here
Speaker 19: in Australia, economic growth is very, very flat, very paltry,
Speaker 19: So it wasn't surprising to see the OECD revised down
Speaker 19: Australia's economic growth forecast look choppy waters ahead. But I
Speaker 19: think that Jim Chalmers will be certainly hoping that he
Speaker 19: can use this as a launching pad to help Labor
Speaker 19: get over the line at the election.
Speaker 2: All right, Jeff Chambers, thank you so much for your
Speaker 2: time and your insights, and we'll read your work in
Speaker 2: The Australian as always. All Right, Still to come that
Speaker 2: explosive interview with the Greens where they effectively reveal Mark
Speaker 2: Speakman's comments as untrue.
Speaker 3: Plus the radio legend.
Speaker 2: Ray Hadley will weigh in on Alban Easy Speakman, the
Speaker 2: Greens Chris Bowen, he won't hold back. That's after this
Speaker 2: quick break. Welcome back. As I mentioned last week, every
Speaker 2: week until the federal election is held, Ray Hadley will
Speaker 2: join me here to talk about politics and I'm pleased
Speaker 2: to say he's here in studio now.
Speaker 3: Ray, great to see you again.
Speaker 1: It's lovely to be invited back.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, honor to have you so. Ray.
Speaker 3: You heard what I had to say about Mark Speakman earlier.
Speaker 3: What do you think about this bloke?
Speaker 1: I don't think you were tough enough on him. Look,
Speaker 1: he is a complete nutter. Waste of space.
Speaker 20: When I was still on radio, I made the comment
Speaker 20: that he was the worst attorney general and that's a
Speaker 20: Melbourne cup field. He beat Bob Deavers and Greg Smith
Speaker 20: one Labor one liberal. He was a terrible Attorney general
Speaker 20: and I think it was just a matter of last
Speaker 20: man standing with all the drama that happened through the
Speaker 20: course of Mike Baird He's dumb greyhound decision, followed by
Speaker 20: glad Us filling in love with the wrong person, not
Speaker 20: telling anyone about it, and then poor old Don Perrete
Speaker 20: filling in and then there was no one left basically
Speaker 20: when they got a knocked over by Chris Mins. And
Speaker 20: about Men's I agree with you about leadership. I think
Speaker 20: that he's a politician. It doesn't matter with your Labor
Speaker 20: liberal or anywhere in between. He's a politician with conviction, yes,
Speaker 20: and we've been sadly lacking that conviction for a long
Speaker 20: long time. Certainly Mark Speakman has no conviction. It's a
Speaker 20: funny old world. I think that Mens would be better
Speaker 20: suited to be a liberal, right wing premier, and Speakman
Speaker 20: should be leading the Greens or the far left of
Speaker 20: the Labor Party. The problem is I don't think the
Speaker 20: next Liberal premier is in Parliament. I think Labor will
Speaker 20: win the next two terms. Men's mightn't be in charge.
Speaker 20: It's portrayed that Mens is.
Speaker 3: A Kelly Sloan. Not next time, but maybe the time after.
Speaker 20: Yeah, they won't get rid of Men's in one term.
Speaker 20: He'll be there for two terms, possibly three because a
Speaker 20: good premier. But the thing about Mens is and I
Speaker 20: like him as a man and as a premier, but
Speaker 20: his portrayed as a one man ban. He's got a
Speaker 20: very very good cabinet prew Carry's deputy brilliant, Ryan park Health, brilliant,
Speaker 20: Anelouk Chantelvong, brilliant, John Graham brigant. Put John to one side,
Speaker 20: but the rest could be premier in the future if
Speaker 20: he decides to step down and he tied. You go
Speaker 20: through the line, you go through the Liberal Party apart
Speaker 20: from Kelly. You told me one person who could be premier.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think Chris Man's is so good. We
Speaker 2: need him in Canberra. We need him to take over
Speaker 2: from Albow instead of Chris Bowen. I mean, you know
Speaker 2: you're talking about how good the new Southel's Labor cabinet is.
Speaker 3: How bad is the federal labor Cabinet.
Speaker 2: Chris Bowen, Tony Burke, Jason Clare, Albert Easy. You couldn't
Speaker 2: get a worse federal and they're all on TikTok doing
Speaker 2: this silly video.
Speaker 20: I mean retirement of the blood pressure has gone down
Speaker 20: since December thirteen.
Speaker 1: And sorry that Bowen.
Speaker 20: And I did get Peter Dutton on my last day
Speaker 20: to call him Casnova Bowen for the first of time.
Speaker 1: But the thing that I would say to you and
Speaker 1: to everyone wants.
Speaker 3: They were it a nickname for a lady.
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't do it in front of you, thank you.
Speaker 20: But there are plenty of blokes in pubs and clubs
Speaker 20: across Australia.
Speaker 1: You know why I call him gasnava bum. But anyway, the.
Speaker 20: Point being, if you reinstate, Anthony Alberanezi, it's a package deal.
Speaker 1: You get all the rest exactly. You know, you get,
Speaker 1: you get Burg.
Speaker 2: You might end up with Tony Burke, a's Prime minister,
Speaker 2: even because he's got leadership ambitions.
Speaker 20: I went up the Kopa Cabana on the weekend. By
Speaker 20: the way, Cheesey's a long way from the water up there, Elbow.
Speaker 1: I don't think he bought.
Speaker 3: Real Well, it's on the on the cliff. He's got
Speaker 3: to walk down the cliff.
Speaker 1: If you not up from a surf club.
Speaker 20: It's way way up. It's not sort of a walk
Speaker 20: where you could walk down to the beach, but you
Speaker 20: need to be a marathon runner. And gave back up
Speaker 20: the hill to get back to the hand.
Speaker 2: I guess it's good exercise exactly now.
Speaker 3: I want to ask you. I spoke to just Center
Speaker 3: Price on the program last night.
Speaker 2: She's, you know, wants to have this government efficiency kind
Speaker 2: of like a doze roll that Elon Musk is playing
Speaker 2: in the United States, and we spoke about some of
Speaker 2: the waste of federal guy money, you know, hundreds of
Speaker 2: thousand million dollars for decolonizing breastfeeding.
Speaker 3: Which is the most natural thing in the world.
Speaker 20: Anyone that's opposed to breastfeeding is a complete mark. I
Speaker 20: mean it is. It's a natural thing for a mother
Speaker 20: to do. Not all women can do it. You know,
Speaker 20: there are varying reasons. But those who wish to breastfeed,
Speaker 20: why we're going to decolonize them. I mean, look, just
Speaker 20: a side note, I was just doing a bit of
Speaker 20: thinking this after anyone I knew was coming on. And
Speaker 20: I think about the Voice referendum, and I think about
Speaker 20: the waste of money that you've mentioned there the NI
Speaker 20: double A. They wanted to have another body, which they
Speaker 20: didn't get the books. The NI double A has thirteen
Speaker 20: hundred employees. Of the thirteen hundred employees, eight hundred are
Speaker 20: in Canberra. Eight hundred. Now, that's not a waste of money.
Speaker 20: They should be in regional areas. And that's one of
Speaker 20: the things you said that would look at if elected
Speaker 20: to be the minister, she'd put those people in the
Speaker 20: right area. They're not going to solve any problems in Camber.
Speaker 20: They're not too many Indigenous problems in Canberra, apart from
Speaker 20: the odd protest.
Speaker 1: The problems are in.
Speaker 3: Rural areas about just enterprise.
Speaker 20: Oh, she is a fantastic woman, a fantastic.
Speaker 2: What about this story today with Chris Bowen that the
Speaker 2: AFP is going to fail to satisfy the green energy targets.
Speaker 3: It took to the last election.
Speaker 2: In fact, they've even deleted some of the modeling from
Speaker 2: the website.
Speaker 20: Well, I'm happy that he's been taking out of witness
Speaker 20: protection because I was concerned that he was hold up
Speaker 20: somewhere we'd never see him again. So he's back out.
Speaker 20: But it's the whole thing. He has stuffed up immigration,
Speaker 20: every portfolio he's got attached to he's stuffed up. And
Speaker 20: now he's stuffing up energy. And as I said to
Speaker 20: you last week, this nonsense, this pie in the sky
Speaker 20: stuff about wind farms off the coast of New South
Speaker 20: Wales at Port Stevens and Woollongong. Not even the people
Speaker 20: who were mildly interested from Europe intendering for it, they're
Speaker 20: no longer interested.
Speaker 1: So all of a sudden we're not talking about it anymore.
Speaker 20: And Peter doesn't put himself out there at Ports Stevens
Speaker 20: and Wollongong said no, you elect me, it's not going
Speaker 20: to happen. It is simply not going to happen. So look,
Speaker 20: he might get promoted if they get re elected. And
Speaker 20: I heard your comments earlier about exactly where they are.
Speaker 20: I think it's seventy seven fifty three. But the key
Speaker 20: to all that is there are six of the minor
Speaker 20: parties Catter and the like, but there's thirteen independent Charry, yeah,
Speaker 20: thirteen independent. I mean it's going to be very hard
Speaker 20: for Peter Dutton to win out right.
Speaker 1: And if there is to be.
Speaker 20: You know, a rob oakshot Tony Winter type spill, you
Speaker 20: can imagine how they'll be sited.
Speaker 2: They won't be Peter ut And I think the Tills
Speaker 2: need to come out and tell their electrics who they
Speaker 2: would be siding. We're going to hung Parliament because it's looking.
Speaker 3: That quote ray. So to raise your blood pressure, glad
Speaker 3: you're back.
Speaker 1: Well, I've got a week to recover so that I look.
Speaker 3: Forward to seeing you next Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: All Right after the break, the Greens claim the antisemitism
Speaker 2: crisis is all confected.
Speaker 3: My interview coming up. Welcome back, well.
Speaker 2: To showcase just how ridiculous it is that a liberal
Speaker 2: opposition leader, Mike Speakman is working with the Greens to
Speaker 2: on an inquiry into these hate speech laws. Iviewed Greens
Speaker 2: MLC Sir Higginson. A little earlier, the New South Wales
Speaker 2: Coalition has said that it won't support repealing the hate
Speaker 2: speech laws. So did you work with the New Southwales
Speaker 2: Coalition directly to agree in terms of reference that was
Speaker 2: acceptable to both the Greens and the coalition.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, in no uncertain terms.
Speaker 21: This is an inquiry to look at how these laws
Speaker 21: came about the processes that led up to the rushing
Speaker 21: of these laws through the Parliament.
Speaker 4: I mean, you've got to recall.
Speaker 21: We were forced to sit in the Upper House till
Speaker 21: four am the government lifted standing orders.
Speaker 2: We'll get to all of that in a moment, but
Speaker 2: I just want to get to the question on whether
Speaker 2: you worked with the coalition on the terms of reference.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, that's what we do.
Speaker 21: If we are going into the Parliament with the terms
Speaker 21: of reference for a select committee, then it's important.
Speaker 4: That there is agreement on the terms of reference.
Speaker 21: And at the moment it appears that we have got
Speaker 21: an agreement to look into do.
Speaker 2: I say, can you say who in the New South
Speaker 2: I was coalition you dealt with?
Speaker 3: Was it Mark Speakman's office?
Speaker 21: Look, I don't I don't do the business of the coalition.
Speaker 21: There are you know, staffers who undertake those discussions with
Speaker 21: my office and we you know, look, parliamentary sitting days
Speaker 21: are busy days there. We are juggling several things at
Speaker 21: any one time.
Speaker 2: So it was a I understand start either for maybe
Speaker 2: Damien tudor Hope's offers who met with your staff member
Speaker 2: and negotiated the terms of reference?
Speaker 3: Is that right?
Speaker 21: Look, the reality of how we come to these is Yes,
Speaker 21: discussions happen, Documents get sent around, words get changed on
Speaker 21: those documents.
Speaker 4: I have no.
Speaker 21: Idea who in the coalition works and what the machinery
Speaker 21: of the coalition kind of functions like and how it works.
Speaker 4: So I just can't know who in the coalition has.
Speaker 21: Done this work to put forward the terms of reference
Speaker 21: that I have been working on. As far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 21: it's the coalition.
Speaker 2: Do you think the antisemitism crisis has been overstated?
Speaker 21: Well, what we know is that the case that was
Speaker 21: put to us by the government was a false premise.
Speaker 21: We know that the case involving Operation Perl, including the
Speaker 21: event at Dural, including other events that were put before
Speaker 21: us as the reason for the urgency for these laws
Speaker 21: and for these particular laws. We know that case was
Speaker 21: put to us on false pretenses. And that's a really
Speaker 21: important issue when you are when.
Speaker 2: You are we know now, we know now that anti
Speaker 2: Semitism was a motivating factor behind these incidents, and of
Speaker 2: course they were anti Semitic incidents.
Speaker 3: They targeted a.
Speaker 2: Synagogue, a preschool adjacent to a synagogue, was firebombed, there
Speaker 2: were cars vandalized, swastikas sprawled on cars on Jewish property.
Speaker 3: So do you admit that this was anti semitism?
Speaker 21: With respect, Shari, My job is to look at the
Speaker 21: evidence and what we know is Deputy Commissioner David Hudson
Speaker 21: Police Deputy Commissioner, one of the most expert police officers
Speaker 21: in this state when it comes to counter terrorism and
Speaker 21: these kind of offenses. He gave evidence in the Parliamentary
Speaker 21: Budget Estimate session that these events were as part of
Speaker 21: a criminal enterprise that was not motivated.
Speaker 2: Well, he actually said in the budget estimates, and we've
Speaker 2: played the clips on the program, he actually said in
Speaker 2: the budget estimates that he wasn't aware of the motivating
Speaker 2: factor because it was the Australian Federal Police that handled
Speaker 2: the informant. But even looking at the attacks, a fire
Speaker 2: bombing of a preschool adjacent to a synagogue, as an
Speaker 2: attempt on Newtown's synagogue, how can you say those aren't
Speaker 2: anti Semitic incidents?
Speaker 21: These events were no doubt offensive, They were brutally awful,
Speaker 21: they were deeply.
Speaker 3: They were anti submitted. They weren't anti Semitic.
Speaker 21: They were opportunistic, criminal activities in order to obtain a benefit.
Speaker 2: So were you saying an arson attempt on a city
Speaker 2: is not anti semitism? Are you saying an arson attempt
Speaker 2: on a synagogue is not anti Semitism?
Speaker 4: I am saying what the police have told us.
Speaker 21: What I am saying is crime can be and does
Speaker 21: have complex factors involved in Why.
Speaker 2: So the Men's governments, the Men's government's laws targeting hate
Speaker 2: speech were unrelated to these incidents that you're talking about.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: This is toughening laws so that police can take action
Speaker 2: against hate preachers who've been demonizing the Jewish people, so
Speaker 2: they can take action against hateful remarks made by pro
Speaker 2: Palestinian protesters.
Speaker 3: Do you admit those laws are needed?
Speaker 21: What I'm going to say again is that the experts,
Speaker 21: including the Law Reform Commission, including all those civil society
Speaker 21: legal bodies in learning, many of the peak faith organizations, these.
Speaker 4: Are not the laws they wanted and not the laws
Speaker 4: they asked for.
Speaker 2: But I'm asking about you. You've used, You've claimed that
Speaker 2: attacks on the Jewish community property aren't our disemitism.
Speaker 3: They are unrelated.
Speaker 2: They are unrelated to the laws that the Men's government
Speaker 2: introduced hate speech laws Another set of laws was ban
Speaker 2: on protests outside synagogues and places of worship.
Speaker 3: Do you agree with.
Speaker 2: The pro Palestinian activists who want to be able to
Speaker 2: attack Jews outside synagogues?
Speaker 4: Charie?
Speaker 21: What I want is really good sound laws on our
Speaker 21: law books made for proper purposes, not political opportunity. And
Speaker 21: what I want is a society that has a system
Speaker 21: in this state, that has the best system of addressing And.
Speaker 3: I just want to specifically ask you about this law.
Speaker 3: I want to ask you about this law. We're not
Speaker 3: answering the question.
Speaker 2: This law or the Palestinian Action Group claims they should
Speaker 2: be able to protest outside of synagogues.
Speaker 3: Do you agree with them?
Speaker 21: I believe and I absolutely stand side to side with
Speaker 21: the Palestinian Action Group right now in their constant.
Speaker 2: They should be able to harass Jews outside synagogues.
Speaker 21: I absolutely stand with them because I think the.
Speaker 2: War should they be able to harass Jews outside of
Speaker 2: a place of worship that has nothing to do with
Speaker 2: the Middle East and is only about Judaism.
Speaker 21: Chari, this is about all places of worship. The laws
Speaker 21: the means government introduced.
Speaker 2: We're not seeing protests outside of any other places of worship.
Speaker 2: We're seeing pro Palestinian activists outside synagogues. We saw Jews
Speaker 2: going to lockdown at the Great Synagogue because there were
Speaker 2: a rabid group of pro Palestinians outside. Why should they
Speaker 2: be able to terrorize Jews outside.
Speaker 4: Of You're going off topic.
Speaker 3: That is basically no, you are this is the reason
Speaker 3: for these laws. This is no reason for these.
Speaker 4: Laws, Okay, Schari. Seriously, there are good reasons.
Speaker 21: Why people should be able to, from time to time
Speaker 21: protest near places of worship.
Speaker 4: We have seen this when it comes to the Catholic.
Speaker 21: Church and when it came to systemic abuse on victims
Speaker 21: by the Catholic Church.
Speaker 4: Those protests that took.
Speaker 21: Place over years and years were really fundamental in delivering
Speaker 21: justice in New South Wales to the victims of institutional
Speaker 21: abuse perpetrated by the Catholic Church.
Speaker 2: All Right, the protests can happen elsewhere, not outside of
Speaker 2: a place of worship.
Speaker 3: But we're running out of time, So I just want
Speaker 3: to ask you for is it the case? Is it
Speaker 3: the case the.
Speaker 2: New one't other groups like LGBTQI to be included in
Speaker 2: these hate speech laws to band speech that's offensive to them?
Speaker 4: What I said shari is.
Speaker 21: I would like this state, and I believe this state
Speaker 21: deserves a system that actually addresses all forms of racism,
Speaker 21: hatred and discrimination.
Speaker 4: I think we deserve that. We are literally on the
Speaker 4: premise of.
Speaker 21: The Law Reform Commission delivering its report on how best
Speaker 21: to have this system in New South Wales.
Speaker 4: Memes has just made a mess, that's what he has done.
Speaker 21: He's come in to the Parliament, his rush laws on
Speaker 21: false pretenses, made a mess of the law books, and
Speaker 21: we want to just inquire into how the heck this
Speaker 21: happened here in New South Wales.
Speaker 2: We're out of time, so he can appreciate your time.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Now, I wouldn't normally have the
Speaker 2: Greens on the show. I only did that to show
Speaker 2: how ludicrous it is that Mark Speakman is working with
Speaker 2: them on this inquiry. All right, after the break, my
Speaker 2: final thought on the latest Israel strikes.
Speaker 3: That's in a minute, all right.
Speaker 2: The two months cease fire between Israel and Hamas has ended,
Speaker 2: and Israel's defense for US have conducted extensive strikes in
Speaker 2: on Harmas targets in the Gaza Strip. Now, Benjaminette Yaho
Speaker 2: has made clear that Hamas has refused all hostage deal offers,
Speaker 2: and there are still hostages who are living in the
Speaker 2: Gaza Strip and they're being held captive. The White House
Speaker 2: unequivocally backed in Israel.
Speaker 3: Today. Here was Carolyn Levitt.
Speaker 22: The Trump administration and the White House were consulted by
Speaker 22: the Israelis on their attacks in Gaza tonight. And as
Speaker 22: President Trump has made it clear hamas the houthis Ran,
Speaker 22: all those who seek to terrorize not just Israel but
Speaker 22: also the United States of America will see a price
Speaker 22: to pay.
Speaker 3: All hell will break loose. On that note, here's Paul
Speaker 3: Mara