WEBVTT - JOSH AND STEFANO: It's All Gone Wrong 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.920 After moving in together a few days ago and settling 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:06.680 into Stefano's Bondai Beach apartment, things have been going great 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:10.840 for Josh and Stefano until last night, as he struggled 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.560 to sleep and the comments online started to get to him. 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:16.640 Josh packed a bag at four am and attempted to 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:19.760 leave and return to his own home, but he woke 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:23.159 Stefano up in the process. This morning, they reflect on 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:24.160 what happened privately. 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.040 I did try and leave my husband last night up 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.960 four am while he was asleep, which he's fucking brutal. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.479 And I was just slowly closing the bedroom door and 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:38.120 I had Stefano away and go, Josh, are you leaving? 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:40.879 And I asked him that are your key? Yeah, yeah, 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:45.400 I cannot sleep because uh so I tried to goggle 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:49.320 him again and make it make him feel comfortable. But 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:53.199 it's kind of weird, you know, like because we have 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:55.880 a green and we were cooking together and. 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:59.120 That's when the lights went out and I just I 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:00.960 could not turn up enough. And then I look on 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:03.480 comments of the video of when we moved in together. 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.760 At the first one is someone being like I've watched 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:09.880 Stefano film only fans content on that self, we're and 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:11.240 that better are in this house. 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:15.240 With the honeymoon, it was one thing, and now it 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:20.679 feels like coming back to Seyney change the relationship between us. 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.559 I have not wanted to have that big talk about 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:26.039 he's the only fans and what that means, the type 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.280 of content he does or he's going to do or 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.039 stopped doing or and then there's like so many other 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.959 things from the honeymoon that I've wanted to talk about, 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:38.640 but I haven't felt ready to wake up. 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:40.600 I can do this video so early. 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:40.919 In the morning. 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.840 Maybe selfishly, I just want a couple more days of 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:50.400 us before bringing in the actual reality of our day 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.000 to day reality back in Sydney. 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:56.160 But yeah, I am. 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.920 I am very sorry to Stephane about trying to live 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.680 in the night like that was not my final st hour, 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.280 but fucking like in the dark of the night, everything 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:07.080 feels bigger, more intense more. 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.120 I don't know, I don't know what I'm saying. I'm 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:16.480 going to work now. Yeah. 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.280 Meanwhile, Josh has now returned to work and wants to 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:21.720 sit down and chat with Pedro the producer. 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:28.720 Pedro, Hello, Josh, what was your honeymoon with the new husband. Yeah, 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:30.880 I feel like, did you have a good time? 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:33.239 Yeah? 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:35.880 I just feel I mean, and you have a few 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:40.840 things to talk about. Okay, when when you sell this 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:45.640 series to me, the concept, yep, you made a couple 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:50.919 of promises that I was not going to be stitched up. 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:55.520 Yeah, I feel like I haven't broken that promise, Paedia. 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:59.280 You have tricked me into marrying not just someone who 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:01.799 does only find has brought someone who is actually quite 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:07.080 famous for that overseas, with literally hundreds of thousands of 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:11.760 followers for his explicit content. When you said you would 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:16.200 find me my perfect match, at what point did you 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:21.919 think that would be something I would go, Yeah, no worries. 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:24.360 First of all, I mean. 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:29.080 Seriously, I know I'm laughing. I believe you when you 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.040 said this would be legit. 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.280 And it is legit. Now let me let me take 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:39.600 you back to something you do very often with me, right, 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:44.000 You always pull me up about how in a good 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.000 way you always say, oh, you know sex workers or this, 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.560 and they're lovely and they deserve respect. 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:53.480 And that when you say the word prosi, that's right, 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:55.839 that's right, derogatory. 0:03:55.320 --> 0:04:01.480 Exactly right now, I knew Stephano did this type of 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.920 content and had all these followers two hundred and fifty 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:09.320 thousand on Twitter just to be precise. However, he's still 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:13.120 a person that wanted to find love and be married. 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.560 When I interviewed him and spoke to him, that was 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.880 his intention. He said to me that the content that 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:23.520 he films is part of his work, just like you 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:30.159 have a podcast, that's your work. Yeah, but I'm sure 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:33.560 he has sex and does all these things on his 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:37.159 explicit content, but it's just part of his job. It 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:40.040 pays his bills. He said to me, There there's no 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:45.200 connection there, it's work, and that he wanted to find 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:51.560 a proper partner to settle down with. And given your 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:56.000 background in you know, you've directed porn and you know you've. 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:59.000 Worked feel I suppose not many listeners will know, but 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:03.840 I especially Hayley Vernon when she got into the adult industry. Yeah, 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:05.400 I always kind of doing stuff with her. Then I 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:10.119 did end up shooting a fair few of her sex tapes. 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:15.159 Yeah, well I know this. Yeah, So hence why I thought, Oh, 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.800 there's no one better to understand that side of things, 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:20.880 or like understand his position than you. 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:25.320 Yeah, Like you know, I am fully supportive. 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.760 Of that world and anyone who works in it. 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:32.479 But like, wait, tell me this. You spent a week 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:36.279 with him on a honeymoon or a number of days whatever, Yes, 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.800 how has he been? Has he been someone who's been loving, 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.560 someone who's been caring, someone that wants to be in 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:47.040 a marriage, or has he been on grinder banging blokes 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:48.800 in the Southern Highlands. 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:50.840 He was. 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.080 Everything I expected my match to be on a honeymoon, 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:59.400 Like he was so caring, an affectionate and just sweet. 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.680 That's right. So are you gonna let his job or 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:07.720 his background get in the way of that? You've been 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:11.120 wanting this perfect person, this person you can has all 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:14.160 these qualities you just described. He's You've had a great 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.960 time with him, and you're gonna let his job. Sure, 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.479 it's in porn, not ideal. And I can see where 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:22.960 the moral dilemma is. 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.719 He to a moral dilemma because as you. 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:30.480 Know, I I support that world. It's just I suppose 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:35.200 I've never felt how I would feel with a partner 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:39.880 being part of that world. Like it's to me, what's interesting, Well, 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:41.960 what's weird is like I've not told you yet, but 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:45.360 the second day with him, when he took his shirt 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.320 off and he's got a recognizable tatto in his arm, 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:48.840 and I was like, fuck, I've seen that. And then 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:50.880 I was trying to think and he was in like 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:54.760 a viral TikTok real or something like maybe four months 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:58.440 ago on that beach, one of those smers research. 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.000 Yeah, like it was in Spanish. 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:02.560 I don't know what he said, but I saw that 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:04.960 video and clicking on the dude's page because like, he's 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.120 hot in BONDI I live a few suburbs away, like, oh, 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:12.760 who's that? And then I instantly seen like a spicy 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:15.360 link or you know someone that said there's an only 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:19.040 fans attached to this person and I I never even 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.520 followed them or message or even though I was attracted 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:25.200 to this person, I was like, well, they would never wanna. 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:27.480 Have a boyfriend. 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.080 I just okay, so you judged, and I did Jim, 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:31.720 and I told him this, and I feel bad for 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:35.240 that because I know that well more than most people. 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:38.080 And I know that just because someone is a sex worker, 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.280 I'm making that content like, it doesn't mean they don't 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.920 deserve love and happiness. It doesn't mean they can't separate 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.760 the life between work and what's an actual relationship and 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.680 what's just it's almost it's acting in a way, it's 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:51.400 you know, it's you turn to come on, he's having 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:52.320 a Wanki's doing whatever. 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:52.840 I'm not. 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.760 I haven't wanted to look at any of it yet, because. 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.840 So what's scaring you? Is it that it's out there 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.920 for people to see, or just the large number of 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.120 men he may have slipped with no. 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:09.280 Like I've you know, going to say, you know, you 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.960 know how I spiraled after my marriage ended, and like 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:13.800 my reasons for having a lot of sex were not 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:19.960 necessarily for pleasure. It's more seeking validation through strangers, and 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:21.920 it became quite damaging to my mental health. 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.880 So what's the issue then, what's the the. 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:29.760 Issue is what's like as this is unfolding in real time, 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.840 Like on the honeymoon, I said, oh, I told him 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:36.120 how I recognized him and the judgment I made, And 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.160 then we had this moment like do we talk about 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.360 the only fans and that content and that world? And 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:43.360 I kind of said, I don't want to yet. I 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.640 want to just kind of almost stay in this bubble 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.680 of me and you were here having this lovely time, 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.240 and I knew that if the more we spoke, I 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.600 would get in my head, and I would it may 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.520 change my perception of him, which I hate because, as 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.560 you know, I support that world. But I've never been 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.560 in a position where it's not just a but it's 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:04.320 like I've if you choose to date and morning, you 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.839 know that you kind of make the choice at the start, 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:10.240 but it's like I married this person, Yeah, who's spending 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.079 this week? And then I'm like, oh, and now as 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:17.640 this is unfolding in real time, before Stephano and I 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:19.959 have had a chance to really talk about it, I'm 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:23.920 getting messages every day, comments people, have you seen this 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:24.440 video of him? 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.160 Have you seen that? I've watched him do this in 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:26.560 the video. 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:28.920 I've looked at his Twitter, look at that, and I'm like, 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:31.600 to me, it now feels that like almost like oh, 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:34.200 it's just like a big fucking elaborate way to promote 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:36.360 him as his what. 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.679 Only fans And no, but I don't think and it's not. 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:41.120 But I know people are going to think that, and 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:44.880 I don't want like I've gone in this expecting a 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:50.520 potential partner and I I'm ninety nine percent sure he 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.040 did too, because that's the side of him I've seen, 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:54.600 and it's funny because all these people are sending me 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.240 messages and comments about what he's in the videos and 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:00.880 this persona on his content, which again I've still chose 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.960 not to watch, and it's like the person they're describing 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.480 a messaging me about as if like a lot of 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:08.560 them are saying, it's like it's a negative like, oh, 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.040 look at you. You've married the guy who does that, 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.240 he'll never you can't trust him or whatever. But that 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.960 person they're talking about I don't recognize from the Stephen 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.240 l I've just spent a week and with Well, that's. 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:25.600 What matters, but it comes, That's what it. That's almost 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:31.160 like you know what everyone goes through in everyday life, 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.920 Like you know, on my day to girl from my 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.559 neighborhood that everyone thinks he's a slut, but no one 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:38.800 actually knows that she's. 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.120 Not a slut. I've told you I hate that word. 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.720 Okay, but but like this is what I'm saying, You 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:47.760 can't what people think they know is not necessarily the 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:53.640 real thing. And this happens with like celebrities or football stars. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.679 Since my book, it's funny because most people look at 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.040 that because it's a grander cover, which is just a 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.720 marketing thing to a book, and so many people don't 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.600 actually look at the substance and depth behind these stories. 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:07.720 Why I was spiraling while I was having so much sex, 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:11.400 the the correlation with mental health and. 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.760 That well okay, well stop right there. If you know 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.200 for a fact that this does happen, and people just 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:21.560 assume and they comment, rubbish, that's not true. Why you're 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.480 letting that affect you when you've had that experience yourself. 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:30.400 Can't you just let that sort of pass? And and 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.959 you know the real Stefano Stefano, you know him, You've 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.040 spent you've been spending all this time with him, you're 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:40.559 enjoying his company. I don't understand. Yes, I understand, it's 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:44.720 because why you're you're questioning me, But you've seen the 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:48.600 real Sich And don't forget I interviewed him, I spoke 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:52.320 to him. I did you know, I used your checklist. 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.760 Everything that I got from him when I spoke to 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:57.640 him was a good person. 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.520 And he is not good. 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:05.480 He love like he's genuinely so lovely, so sweet. But 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.520 it just feels that what we moved in together yesterday 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.240 and fucking four am this morning, I tried to just 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.559 leave pack a bag and while he was asleep, why 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.680 I couldn't sleep because it was like coming back to Sydney. 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.880 It felt like this Boballer burst of this beautiful week. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.079 And then it's like all the things I didn't want 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.720 to talk about, which is this his career, these comments 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:28.920 from people. It was like, now we're back in Sydney 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:30.880 and the streets like I used to live in one day, 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:32.800 I'm living up the road like my friend lives on 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.200 street over. It's like it feels like real life has 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:40.400 now like taken over and I can't ignore these things. 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.079 But then I worry if I do sit and talk 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:43.960 with him, or even if I sit and watch his content, 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.720 and worry it's going to change this idea I have 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:51.440 of him, And like, I know that's because he he's 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.840 not just an only funds person. He's a real person 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:57.280 that wants love, deserves love. He's so intelligent. He fucking 0:12:58.000 --> 0:12:59.520 I would say, all these people that know him from 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.840 his content wouldn't know how much he loves history. Like 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.080 I can tell you the song that makes him cry 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:07.640 because it reminds of his childhood. I can tell you 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:09.640 when he thinks about hugging his mom back home, he 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:11.640 gets teary. I can tell you all these things that 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.440 you would never associate with someone who does that work. 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.200 And now it's just. 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.719 Like, Okay, but look, bro, you're saying it yourself. You're 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:23.160 you're literally saying it yourself. You're too worried about what 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:26.280 the outside world thinks when you really shouldn't be worried. 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:29.520 You should be focusing about your relationship with him, your 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.800 connection with him. But then, I didn't set you up 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:36.080 with someone to fail, Like I said to you, I 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.960 spoke to him, interviewed him, did all these checks, blah 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.800 blah blah. Yes, I knew that was a thing, the content, 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.840 the spicy content. But at the same. 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.040 Time, you actually see any of his content. 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:51.040 No, I didn't watch it. I didn't go on his 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.120 only fans and watch gay pawn. If that's what you're asking, well, no, 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.599 because like, but I knew he did that because he 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:58.000 told me. 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:00.800 Yeah. But I'm also worried now because. 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:05.160 I'm worried that people are gonna villify, you know, with 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.520 reality TV, and this is like it's not reality TV, 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.640 but it's a reality series. I worry that people are 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:14.960 now gonna instantly go stephano equal villain because he had 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.680 this which is not like there's no villain here like 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:18.439 for him. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:20.120 And I feel protective of him. 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.080 Because I know how many seasons of shows have I 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:25.080 worked across. I know how easy one little thing can 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:29.360 change someone's entire thing. And it's like I almost want 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.720 to fucking I don't know, Like I don't want that 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:34.440 to happen. I don't want people to now look him 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.320 and go, He's just this one thing, which is to me, 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:38.560 the smallest part of his. 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.680 I get that. So what's what's the next thing? He? So, 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.040 are you gonna talk to him about it? Are you 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.440 gonna ask him? Are you gonna question his commitment? Are 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.320 you going to be that sort of person that's going 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.240 to be like, you know, it's me or your job, 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:54.160 or me or your Paul. 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:56.480 Now, I would never make someone right, So like. 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.520 What's the next step are you? Is there a way 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:00.840 where you guys can talk about it, to meet halfway? 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:04.160 Like from the very brief chat we had about on 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.680 the honeymoon, I know that this is not his like 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:08.520 life plan and goal. 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.040 It's it's a thing he's kind of done. 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:10.960 Well. 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:11.360 That's good. 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.920 He started during COVID when his tories in business, wasn't 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:15.800 making money, and then it's kind. 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:17.880 Of helps pay for his travels as he's here, there 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:18.320 and everywhere. 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.600 I know he sailed in Sydney and he's still running 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.880 a business he started with a friend back home remotely, 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.080 and then this is just another source of income and 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.520 I know it's not forever. But then I don't know 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:35.119 if I'm strong enough to like I'm needy, I'm fucking insecure? 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:37.080 Can I do? You know what I mean? 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.760 And that's what I need to work And even like 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.040 stepping off after a few days, he can see that 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.480 I struggle with confidence and belief in myself, and like 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:46.400 I think it was a second day at dinner, he 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.040 made me sit and say five things I love. 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.560 About myself And this is what I think. 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:55.280 But people would never once they No, he's got only fans. 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.000 I don't think anyone would even care to know that side. 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.360 It even bother to try get to. 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.920 Know that side, because bro, no one needs to he's 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.760 your husband. Yeah, but sure it's a series. But put 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:08.760 that aside for a second. 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:10.520 But it goes back to me being protective because I 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.160 don't want people to now just go he is this 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.040 one tiny part of his life and not see that 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.480 he's so much more in every single way. 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.440 Well, maybe you should, I don't know if you want 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.440 be able to know that, I don't know, make a 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.560 video on TikTok or social media and just why don't 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.480 you do something that's like, hey, this is what you 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.920 see or what you think, but this is the reality 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:34.240 of this guy. I don't know. 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.400 Well, I hope people have already maybe seen it just 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.200 in the first things. But as was the main thing 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:44.080 I want to say here is you know anyone who 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.520 I suppose would now, because we're not reality TV, you 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.840 get a hero in a villain that's pretty much inevitable 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.200 in every show. But I don't want that. None of 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.200 us are heroes of villains. We're two people who entered 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:57.160 this because of you. 0:16:57.320 --> 0:16:58.800 Well, it sounds like you're making me the villain. 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:03.480 If there is one, it is you because you knew this, 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:07.240 And like for stephano he I don't know how you Finally, 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.200 I know you had mutuals and you interviewed a couple 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.399 of people and you had the big chats. But he 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.720 was approached, so whatever, and he said, well I do 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.800 want to find a partner. I this sounds like an 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:22.200 interesting experiment, and yeah, why not. So he's gone into 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.239 that because this is what you told him. Yea, And 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.880 I've gone into it kind of the same. But now 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.240 it feels that like this thing that maybe Stephano didn't 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:32.360 realize would divide people because he doesn't know this reality world. Yeah, 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.560 could now be the thing that makes people dislike him. 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.240 And again it goes back to I want to be 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.320 protective of him because he has done nothing wrong. Like 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:41.880 I can say I've been tricked him to my own 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:46.119 an only fun person, but I haven't, and or you 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:49.280 could say I was tricked by you, but that's nothing 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:50.040 to do with Stefano. 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.119 And again it's well to be fair, I did follow 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.280 your checklist and you never said they couldn't du porn, 0:17:55.440 --> 0:18:01.600 so really I didn't trick you. I I honestly, genuinely 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:05.119 think I picked a very lovely man. Yes, he does pawn, 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:10.680 that's one thing, to be fair, bro, Like a lot 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:12.600 of gays have done the pawn, so it was very 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:14.679 hard to find someone who I have. 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:18.760 Not I don't even send dick pics, okay, the one 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:20.400 person that one. 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:23.439 Like you have in the past. 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:25.879 Yeah, I'm like apps, that's like I did picks like 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:28.160 a selfie in the gay world. Yeah, Like I realized 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:29.760 maybe a couple of years ago, when I was getting 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:30.639 out of that cycle. 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:32.440 I I don't. 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.240 Want to just be known or seen or judge for 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:37.239 sucking the size of my penis. I wanna So if 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:39.920 anyone ever says like, oh, I'm not gonna go on 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:41.480 a date unless you send a nude like. 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:44.280 Yeah, all right, So where do we go from here? 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.000 Because I feel like we've talked for a long time. 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:48.040 I've got a lot of work to do. 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:52.359 I have to work today, and I'm or gonna go 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:53.760 home to Stephano's. 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:56.920 Okay, But just so you know, there was only good intentions. 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.119 Yeah, I know, and I do see the things and 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.600 him that I suppose is the reason you chose him. Yes, 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:05.359 But then it just feels that, like you when we 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.600 promised if it's going to be no bombshells, a big twist, 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:08.640 it feels like there was very. 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.520 Much well I thought meant to. Yes, sure you can 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:13.680 see it as a bomb show. I can see how 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:17.200 you see it as a bomb show, but like there's 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:21.760 no twists where like, you know, oh, let's do this 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:25.000 challenge for the sake of getting people angry and rall like, 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:28.399 I'm not We're not doing that. This just happens to 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:33.560 be him. It's his life. I don't know what else 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:38.359 to say. I think you need to maybe discuss it 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:39.200 with him at length. 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:42.320 Yeah, and I think that's what I'm building towards. But 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:43.240 I still just I. 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:46.520 I still just don't want to push into that because 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:48.840 I'm just enjoying the Well. 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:50.840 Just do it when you're comfortable. Have a chat to 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:53.840 him if you think that things will progress and you 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.320 want to progress him into you know, I mean you're 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:59.359 already husband and husband, but whatever the next stage is. 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:04.040 Maybe have a conversation about how would you feel about this? 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.480 Maybe maybe you should. 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:07.840