Speaker 1: After moving in together a few days ago and settling
Speaker 1: into Stefano's Bondai Beach apartment, things have been going great
Speaker 1: for Josh and Stefano until last night, as he struggled
Speaker 1: to sleep and the comments online started to get to him.
Speaker 1: Josh packed a bag at four am and attempted to
Speaker 1: leave and return to his own home, but he woke
Speaker 1: Stefano up in the process. This morning, they reflect on
Speaker 1: what happened privately.
Speaker 2: I did try and leave my husband last night up
Speaker 2: four am while he was asleep, which he's fucking brutal.
Speaker 2: And I was just slowly closing the bedroom door and
Speaker 2: I had Stefano away and go, Josh, are you leaving?
Speaker 3: And I asked him that are your key? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I cannot sleep because uh so I tried to goggle
Speaker 3: him again and make it make him feel comfortable. But
Speaker 3: it's kind of weird, you know, like because we have
Speaker 3: a green and we were cooking together and.
Speaker 2: That's when the lights went out and I just I
Speaker 2: could not turn up enough. And then I look on
Speaker 2: comments of the video of when we moved in together.
Speaker 2: At the first one is someone being like I've watched
Speaker 2: Stefano film only fans content on that self, we're and
Speaker 2: that better are in this house.
Speaker 3: With the honeymoon, it was one thing, and now it
Speaker 3: feels like coming back to Seyney change the relationship between us.
Speaker 2: I have not wanted to have that big talk about
Speaker 2: he's the only fans and what that means, the type
Speaker 2: of content he does or he's going to do or
Speaker 2: stopped doing or and then there's like so many other
Speaker 2: things from the honeymoon that I've wanted to talk about,
Speaker 2: but I haven't felt ready to wake up.
Speaker 3: I can do this video so early.
Speaker 4: In the morning.
Speaker 2: Maybe selfishly, I just want a couple more days of
Speaker 2: us before bringing in the actual reality of our day
Speaker 2: to day reality back in Sydney.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I am.
Speaker 2: I am very sorry to Stephane about trying to live
Speaker 2: in the night like that was not my final st hour,
Speaker 2: but fucking like in the dark of the night, everything
Speaker 2: feels bigger, more intense more.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 4: going to work now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Josh has now returned to work and wants to
Speaker 1: sit down and chat with Pedro the producer.
Speaker 5: Pedro, Hello, Josh, what was your honeymoon with the new husband. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I feel like, did you have a good time?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I just feel I mean, and you have a few
Speaker 2: things to talk about. Okay, when when you sell this
Speaker 2: series to me, the concept, yep, you made a couple
Speaker 2: of promises that I was not going to be stitched up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like I haven't broken that promise, Paedia.
Speaker 2: You have tricked me into marrying not just someone who
Speaker 2: does only find has brought someone who is actually quite
Speaker 2: famous for that overseas, with literally hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 2: followers for his explicit content. When you said you would
Speaker 2: find me my perfect match, at what point did you
Speaker 2: think that would be something I would go, Yeah, no worries.
Speaker 5: First of all, I mean.
Speaker 2: Seriously, I know I'm laughing. I believe you when you
Speaker 2: said this would be legit.
Speaker 5: And it is legit. Now let me let me take
Speaker 5: you back to something you do very often with me, right,
Speaker 5: You always pull me up about how in a good
Speaker 5: way you always say, oh, you know sex workers or this,
Speaker 5: and they're lovely and they deserve respect.
Speaker 2: And that when you say the word prosi, that's right,
Speaker 2: that's right, derogatory.
Speaker 5: Exactly right now, I knew Stephano did this type of
Speaker 5: content and had all these followers two hundred and fifty
Speaker 5: thousand on Twitter just to be precise. However, he's still
Speaker 5: a person that wanted to find love and be married.
Speaker 5: When I interviewed him and spoke to him, that was
Speaker 5: his intention. He said to me that the content that
Speaker 5: he films is part of his work, just like you
Speaker 5: have a podcast, that's your work. Yeah, but I'm sure
Speaker 5: he has sex and does all these things on his
Speaker 5: explicit content, but it's just part of his job. It
Speaker 5: pays his bills. He said to me, There there's no
Speaker 5: connection there, it's work, and that he wanted to find
Speaker 5: a proper partner to settle down with. And given your
Speaker 5: background in you know, you've directed porn and you know you've.
Speaker 2: Worked feel I suppose not many listeners will know, but
Speaker 2: I especially Hayley Vernon when she got into the adult industry. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I always kind of doing stuff with her. Then I
Speaker 2: did end up shooting a fair few of her sex tapes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well I know this. Yeah, So hence why I thought, Oh,
Speaker 5: there's no one better to understand that side of things,
Speaker 5: or like understand his position than you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you know, I am fully supportive.
Speaker 4: Of that world and anyone who works in it.
Speaker 5: But like, wait, tell me this. You spent a week
Speaker 5: with him on a honeymoon or a number of days whatever, Yes,
Speaker 5: how has he been? Has he been someone who's been loving,
Speaker 5: someone who's been caring, someone that wants to be in
Speaker 5: a marriage, or has he been on grinder banging blokes
Speaker 5: in the Southern Highlands.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 2: Everything I expected my match to be on a honeymoon,
Speaker 2: Like he was so caring, an affectionate and just sweet.
Speaker 5: That's right. So are you gonna let his job or
Speaker 5: his background get in the way of that? You've been
Speaker 5: wanting this perfect person, this person you can has all
Speaker 5: these qualities you just described. He's You've had a great
Speaker 5: time with him, and you're gonna let his job. Sure,
Speaker 5: it's in porn, not ideal. And I can see where
Speaker 5: the moral dilemma is.
Speaker 4: He to a moral dilemma because as you.
Speaker 2: Know, I I support that world. It's just I suppose
Speaker 2: I've never felt how I would feel with a partner
Speaker 2: being part of that world. Like it's to me, what's interesting, Well,
Speaker 2: what's weird is like I've not told you yet, but
Speaker 2: the second day with him, when he took his shirt
Speaker 2: off and he's got a recognizable tatto in his arm,
Speaker 2: and I was like, fuck, I've seen that. And then
Speaker 2: I was trying to think and he was in like
Speaker 2: a viral TikTok real or something like maybe four months
Speaker 2: ago on that beach, one of those smers research.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like it was in Spanish.
Speaker 2: I don't know what he said, but I saw that
Speaker 2: video and clicking on the dude's page because like, he's
Speaker 2: hot in BONDI I live a few suburbs away, like, oh,
Speaker 2: who's that? And then I instantly seen like a spicy
Speaker 2: link or you know someone that said there's an only
Speaker 2: fans attached to this person and I I never even
Speaker 2: followed them or message or even though I was attracted
Speaker 2: to this person, I was like, well, they would never wanna.
Speaker 4: Have a boyfriend.
Speaker 2: I just okay, so you judged, and I did Jim,
Speaker 2: and I told him this, and I feel bad for
Speaker 2: that because I know that well more than most people.
Speaker 2: And I know that just because someone is a sex worker,
Speaker 2: I'm making that content like, it doesn't mean they don't
Speaker 2: deserve love and happiness. It doesn't mean they can't separate
Speaker 2: the life between work and what's an actual relationship and
Speaker 2: what's just it's almost it's acting in a way, it's
Speaker 2: you know, it's you turn to come on, he's having
Speaker 2: a Wanki's doing whatever.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I haven't wanted to look at any of it yet, because.
Speaker 5: So what's scaring you? Is it that it's out there
Speaker 5: for people to see, or just the large number of
Speaker 5: men he may have slipped with no.
Speaker 2: Like I've you know, going to say, you know, you
Speaker 2: know how I spiraled after my marriage ended, and like
Speaker 2: my reasons for having a lot of sex were not
Speaker 2: necessarily for pleasure. It's more seeking validation through strangers, and
Speaker 2: it became quite damaging to my mental health.
Speaker 5: So what's the issue then, what's the the.
Speaker 2: Issue is what's like as this is unfolding in real time,
Speaker 2: Like on the honeymoon, I said, oh, I told him
Speaker 2: how I recognized him and the judgment I made, And
Speaker 2: then we had this moment like do we talk about
Speaker 2: the only fans and that content and that world? And
Speaker 2: I kind of said, I don't want to yet. I
Speaker 2: want to just kind of almost stay in this bubble
Speaker 2: of me and you were here having this lovely time,
Speaker 2: and I knew that if the more we spoke, I
Speaker 2: would get in my head, and I would it may
Speaker 2: change my perception of him, which I hate because, as
Speaker 2: you know, I support that world. But I've never been
Speaker 2: in a position where it's not just a but it's
Speaker 2: like I've if you choose to date and morning, you
Speaker 2: know that you kind of make the choice at the start,
Speaker 2: but it's like I married this person, Yeah, who's spending
Speaker 2: this week? And then I'm like, oh, and now as
Speaker 2: this is unfolding in real time, before Stephano and I
Speaker 2: have had a chance to really talk about it, I'm
Speaker 2: getting messages every day, comments people, have you seen this
Speaker 2: video of him?
Speaker 4: Have you seen that? I've watched him do this in
Speaker 4: the video.
Speaker 2: I've looked at his Twitter, look at that, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: to me, it now feels that like almost like oh,
Speaker 2: it's just like a big fucking elaborate way to promote
Speaker 2: him as his what.
Speaker 4: Only fans And no, but I don't think and it's not.
Speaker 2: But I know people are going to think that, and
Speaker 2: I don't want like I've gone in this expecting a
Speaker 2: potential partner and I I'm ninety nine percent sure he
Speaker 2: did too, because that's the side of him I've seen,
Speaker 2: and it's funny because all these people are sending me
Speaker 2: messages and comments about what he's in the videos and
Speaker 2: this persona on his content, which again I've still chose
Speaker 2: not to watch, and it's like the person they're describing
Speaker 2: a messaging me about as if like a lot of
Speaker 2: them are saying, it's like it's a negative like, oh,
Speaker 2: look at you. You've married the guy who does that,
Speaker 2: he'll never you can't trust him or whatever. But that
Speaker 2: person they're talking about I don't recognize from the Stephen
Speaker 2: l I've just spent a week and with Well, that's.
Speaker 5: What matters, but it comes, That's what it. That's almost
Speaker 5: like you know what everyone goes through in everyday life,
Speaker 5: Like you know, on my day to girl from my
Speaker 5: neighborhood that everyone thinks he's a slut, but no one
Speaker 5: actually knows that she's.
Speaker 4: Not a slut. I've told you I hate that word.
Speaker 5: Okay, but but like this is what I'm saying, You
Speaker 5: can't what people think they know is not necessarily the
Speaker 5: real thing. And this happens with like celebrities or football stars.
Speaker 2: Since my book, it's funny because most people look at
Speaker 2: that because it's a grander cover, which is just a
Speaker 2: marketing thing to a book, and so many people don't
Speaker 2: actually look at the substance and depth behind these stories.
Speaker 2: Why I was spiraling while I was having so much sex,
Speaker 2: the the correlation with mental health and.
Speaker 5: That well okay, well stop right there. If you know
Speaker 5: for a fact that this does happen, and people just
Speaker 5: assume and they comment, rubbish, that's not true. Why you're
Speaker 5: letting that affect you when you've had that experience yourself.
Speaker 5: Can't you just let that sort of pass? And and
Speaker 5: you know the real Stefano Stefano, you know him, You've
Speaker 5: spent you've been spending all this time with him, you're
Speaker 5: enjoying his company. I don't understand. Yes, I understand, it's
Speaker 5: because why you're you're questioning me, But you've seen the
Speaker 5: real Sich And don't forget I interviewed him, I spoke
Speaker 5: to him. I did you know, I used your checklist.
Speaker 5: Everything that I got from him when I spoke to
Speaker 5: him was a good person.
Speaker 4: And he is not good.
Speaker 2: He love like he's genuinely so lovely, so sweet. But
Speaker 2: it just feels that what we moved in together yesterday
Speaker 2: and fucking four am this morning, I tried to just
Speaker 2: leave pack a bag and while he was asleep, why
Speaker 2: I couldn't sleep because it was like coming back to Sydney.
Speaker 2: It felt like this Boballer burst of this beautiful week.
Speaker 2: And then it's like all the things I didn't want
Speaker 2: to talk about, which is this his career, these comments
Speaker 2: from people. It was like, now we're back in Sydney
Speaker 2: and the streets like I used to live in one day,
Speaker 2: I'm living up the road like my friend lives on
Speaker 2: street over. It's like it feels like real life has
Speaker 2: now like taken over and I can't ignore these things.
Speaker 2: But then I worry if I do sit and talk
Speaker 2: with him, or even if I sit and watch his content,
Speaker 2: and worry it's going to change this idea I have
Speaker 2: of him, And like, I know that's because he he's
Speaker 2: not just an only funds person. He's a real person
Speaker 2: that wants love, deserves love. He's so intelligent. He fucking
Speaker 2: I would say, all these people that know him from
Speaker 2: his content wouldn't know how much he loves history. Like
Speaker 2: I can tell you the song that makes him cry
Speaker 2: because it reminds of his childhood. I can tell you
Speaker 2: when he thinks about hugging his mom back home, he
Speaker 2: gets teary. I can tell you all these things that
Speaker 2: you would never associate with someone who does that work.
Speaker 4: And now it's just.
Speaker 5: Like, Okay, but look, bro, you're saying it yourself. You're
Speaker 5: you're literally saying it yourself. You're too worried about what
Speaker 5: the outside world thinks when you really shouldn't be worried.
Speaker 5: You should be focusing about your relationship with him, your
Speaker 5: connection with him. But then, I didn't set you up
Speaker 5: with someone to fail, Like I said to you, I
Speaker 5: spoke to him, interviewed him, did all these checks, blah
Speaker 5: blah blah. Yes, I knew that was a thing, the content,
Speaker 5: the spicy content. But at the same.
Speaker 4: Time, you actually see any of his content.
Speaker 5: No, I didn't watch it. I didn't go on his
Speaker 5: only fans and watch gay pawn. If that's what you're asking, well, no,
Speaker 5: because like, but I knew he did that because he
Speaker 5: told me.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But I'm also worried now because.
Speaker 2: I'm worried that people are gonna villify, you know, with
Speaker 2: reality TV, and this is like it's not reality TV,
Speaker 2: but it's a reality series. I worry that people are
Speaker 2: now gonna instantly go stephano equal villain because he had
Speaker 2: this which is not like there's no villain here like
Speaker 2: for him.
Speaker 4: And I feel protective of him.
Speaker 2: Because I know how many seasons of shows have I
Speaker 2: worked across. I know how easy one little thing can
Speaker 2: change someone's entire thing. And it's like I almost want
Speaker 2: to fucking I don't know, Like I don't want that
Speaker 2: to happen. I don't want people to now look him
Speaker 2: and go, He's just this one thing, which is to me,
Speaker 2: the smallest part of his.
Speaker 5: I get that. So what's what's the next thing? He? So,
Speaker 5: are you gonna talk to him about it? Are you
Speaker 5: gonna ask him? Are you gonna question his commitment? Are
Speaker 5: you going to be that sort of person that's going
Speaker 5: to be like, you know, it's me or your job,
Speaker 5: or me or your Paul.
Speaker 4: Now, I would never make someone right, So like.
Speaker 5: What's the next step are you? Is there a way
Speaker 5: where you guys can talk about it, to meet halfway?
Speaker 2: Like from the very brief chat we had about on
Speaker 2: the honeymoon, I know that this is not his like
Speaker 2: life plan and goal.
Speaker 4: It's it's a thing he's kind of done.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 5: That's good.
Speaker 2: He started during COVID when his tories in business, wasn't
Speaker 2: making money, and then it's kind.
Speaker 4: Of helps pay for his travels as he's here, there
Speaker 4: and everywhere.
Speaker 2: I know he sailed in Sydney and he's still running
Speaker 2: a business he started with a friend back home remotely,
Speaker 2: and then this is just another source of income and
Speaker 2: I know it's not forever. But then I don't know
Speaker 2: if I'm strong enough to like I'm needy, I'm fucking insecure?
Speaker 4: Can I do? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And that's what I need to work And even like
Speaker 2: stepping off after a few days, he can see that
Speaker 2: I struggle with confidence and belief in myself, and like
Speaker 2: I think it was a second day at dinner, he
Speaker 2: made me sit and say five things I love.
Speaker 4: About myself And this is what I think.
Speaker 2: But people would never once they No, he's got only fans.
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone would even care to know that side.
Speaker 2: It even bother to try get to.
Speaker 5: Know that side, because bro, no one needs to he's
Speaker 5: your husband. Yeah, but sure it's a series. But put
Speaker 5: that aside for a second.
Speaker 2: But it goes back to me being protective because I
Speaker 2: don't want people to now just go he is this
Speaker 2: one tiny part of his life and not see that
Speaker 2: he's so much more in every single way.
Speaker 5: Well, maybe you should, I don't know if you want
Speaker 5: be able to know that, I don't know, make a
Speaker 5: video on TikTok or social media and just why don't
Speaker 5: you do something that's like, hey, this is what you
Speaker 5: see or what you think, but this is the reality
Speaker 5: of this guy. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, I hope people have already maybe seen it just
Speaker 2: in the first things. But as was the main thing
Speaker 2: I want to say here is you know anyone who
Speaker 2: I suppose would now, because we're not reality TV, you
Speaker 2: get a hero in a villain that's pretty much inevitable
Speaker 2: in every show. But I don't want that. None of
Speaker 2: us are heroes of villains. We're two people who entered
Speaker 2: this because of you.
Speaker 5: Well, it sounds like you're making me the villain.
Speaker 2: If there is one, it is you because you knew this,
Speaker 2: And like for stephano he I don't know how you Finally,
Speaker 2: I know you had mutuals and you interviewed a couple
Speaker 2: of people and you had the big chats. But he
Speaker 2: was approached, so whatever, and he said, well I do
Speaker 2: want to find a partner. I this sounds like an
Speaker 2: interesting experiment, and yeah, why not. So he's gone into
Speaker 2: that because this is what you told him. Yea, And
Speaker 2: I've gone into it kind of the same. But now
Speaker 2: it feels that like this thing that maybe Stephano didn't
Speaker 2: realize would divide people because he doesn't know this reality world. Yeah,
Speaker 2: could now be the thing that makes people dislike him.
Speaker 2: And again it goes back to I want to be
Speaker 2: protective of him because he has done nothing wrong. Like
Speaker 2: I can say I've been tricked him to my own
Speaker 2: an only fun person, but I haven't, and or you
Speaker 2: could say I was tricked by you, but that's nothing
Speaker 2: to do with Stefano.
Speaker 5: And again it's well to be fair, I did follow
Speaker 5: your checklist and you never said they couldn't du porn,
Speaker 5: so really I didn't trick you. I I honestly, genuinely
Speaker 5: think I picked a very lovely man. Yes, he does pawn,
Speaker 5: that's one thing, to be fair, bro, Like a lot
Speaker 5: of gays have done the pawn, so it was very
Speaker 5: hard to find someone who I have.
Speaker 2: Not I don't even send dick pics, okay, the one
Speaker 2: person that one.
Speaker 5: Like you have in the past.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like apps, that's like I did picks like
Speaker 2: a selfie in the gay world. Yeah, Like I realized
Speaker 2: maybe a couple of years ago, when I was getting
Speaker 2: out of that cycle.
Speaker 4: I I don't.
Speaker 2: Want to just be known or seen or judge for
Speaker 2: sucking the size of my penis. I wanna So if
Speaker 2: anyone ever says like, oh, I'm not gonna go on
Speaker 2: a date unless you send a nude like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, So where do we go from here?
Speaker 5: Because I feel like we've talked for a long time.
Speaker 5: I've got a lot of work to do.
Speaker 2: I have to work today, and I'm or gonna go
Speaker 2: home to Stephano's.
Speaker 5: Okay, But just so you know, there was only good intentions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, and I do see the things and
Speaker 2: him that I suppose is the reason you chose him. Yes,
Speaker 2: But then it just feels that, like you when we
Speaker 2: promised if it's going to be no bombshells, a big twist,
Speaker 2: it feels like there was very.
Speaker 5: Much well I thought meant to. Yes, sure you can
Speaker 5: see it as a bomb show. I can see how
Speaker 5: you see it as a bomb show, but like there's
Speaker 5: no twists where like, you know, oh, let's do this
Speaker 5: challenge for the sake of getting people angry and rall like,
Speaker 5: I'm not We're not doing that. This just happens to
Speaker 5: be him. It's his life. I don't know what else
Speaker 5: to say. I think you need to maybe discuss it
Speaker 5: with him at length.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that's what I'm building towards. But
Speaker 4: I still just I.
Speaker 2: I still just don't want to push into that because
Speaker 2: I'm just enjoying the Well.
Speaker 5: Just do it when you're comfortable. Have a chat to
Speaker 5: him if you think that things will progress and you
Speaker 5: want to progress him into you know, I mean you're
Speaker 5: already husband and husband, but whatever the next stage is.
Speaker 5: Maybe have a conversation about how would you feel about this?
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe you should.
Speaker 4: Maybe you can go to work with.
Speaker 5: Him one day on the pawn set, just to see
Speaker 5: what it's like. Because you think you're family.
Speaker 4: What way is that a good idea?
Speaker 2: I think you come with me to watch my husband
Speaker 2: and fucking rail some random guy.
Speaker 5: I want you understand that there's no connection.
Speaker 2: I know because I used to film the girls you
Speaker 2: very much know, like with Hailey for example, I remember
Speaker 2: once we filmed her and another girl. Tory comments, former playmate,
Speaker 2: we're all giggling. We had to stop keep pausing, then
Speaker 2: we pause the fucking them to going down on each
Speaker 2: other to have a sandwich.
Speaker 4: Like I know, it's like it's sex, but it's not
Speaker 4: like sex. Sex.
Speaker 2: But again it's like I'd never fin i'd be married
Speaker 2: to someone in that world where I have to.
Speaker 5: Why you're worrying my hoodie?
Speaker 4: What are you talking about?
Speaker 5: That's my hoodie? No, sorry, it looks stop deflected or
Speaker 5: on medication from my finger over one, so not that
Speaker 5: anyone can sive it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I am not gonna do a bit of
Speaker 2: work and go home to my husband good Man and
Speaker 2: potentially have the chat with him tonight.
Speaker 5: Remember the beautiful moments you spent together. Don't think about
Speaker 5: the spicy side. Just think about the nice moments. Think
Speaker 5: that I've put you two together with good intentions because
Speaker 5: I did, and just enjoy it. Forget the outside noise
Speaker 5: from the outside world. It's just about you and him.
Speaker 4: And the thousands of people following the journey.
Speaker 5: I mean they're following it, but they don't really. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they can't affect your relationship. Otherwise, no famous people in
Speaker 5: the world would ever be married. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Everyone's you know, relationships in the public eye. They're followed
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 4: Okay, well I'm kind of sick of talking to us.
Speaker 5: Okay, thank you. Back to work everyone,