WEBVTT - Bonus: Vic Premier Jacinta Allan Defends Her Housing Plans

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Lauren on one hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Morning Everyone, twenty seven Fast eight. You are on the

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<v Speaker 2>air with Jason Lauren. This is No. One hundred. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>say hello to our next guest.

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<v Speaker 3>Our next guest is the longest serving female minister in

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<v Speaker 3>Victorian state history.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not lost on me that I am only the

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<v Speaker 4>second woman to lead this stage, and that is also

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<v Speaker 4>comes with some emotions. Please, welcome to the show, the

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<v Speaker 4>Premiel Victoria just center.

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<v Speaker 2>Ella, Hey, good morning, welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 5>You've rolled in in a red suit looking like a

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<v Speaker 5>Nova mascot.

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<v Speaker 4>Please, I didn't realize I'd coordinated my wardrobe with overbranding.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm delighted to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that means you're not going to any other

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<v Speaker 1>radio stations after me.

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<v Speaker 4>No I would.

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<v Speaker 6>If you are, I'll give you the nov Boy head

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<v Speaker 6>to wear. So look, last time you read I made

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<v Speaker 6>this comment, I was devastated when we found out you're

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<v Speaker 6>coming from Bend to Go this morning, that we didn't

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<v Speaker 6>give you the heads up to swing past the cream,

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<v Speaker 6>bring in a couple of snot blocks.

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<v Speaker 4>They know how to do it out, so snop blocks

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<v Speaker 4>and pies.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't help but notice you walked in with a

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<v Speaker 2>little little bag.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit of morning tea on the table. What

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<v Speaker 4>do we go you bend it? Some of Bendigo's finest Well,

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<v Speaker 4>are we allowed to give a plug? Flora Hill Bakery,

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<v Speaker 4>Flora Hill Bakehouse, best vanilla slices in Bendigo. It is

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<v Speaker 4>my local and my favorite bakery. The fresh today they're fresh.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 6>Andrews rolled in with a couple of snopblocks back in

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<v Speaker 6>the day. Nah, I was about to say, you would

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<v Speaker 6>have got my boote.

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<v Speaker 5>That's all right, Hey, you've got a bit going on.

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<v Speaker 5>We do now talk to us about this housing. Some

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<v Speaker 5>people love it, some people hate it. You're suggesting that

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<v Speaker 5>we build more apartment buildings close to train stations so

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<v Speaker 5>people can beat me their families and get to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 4>That's pretty much it, Lauren, That's pretty much it, because well, firstly,

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<v Speaker 4>we've got to build more homes, just full store.

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<v Speaker 1>People can't afford houses.

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<v Speaker 5>I know people my age are trying to buy their

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<v Speaker 5>first homes and they not even just my age, but

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<v Speaker 5>they just can't afford it.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what I hear time and time again that

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<v Speaker 4>younger Victorians, you know, let's call it anyone under the

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<v Speaker 4>age of forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's finny.

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<v Speaker 4>It really hard, like my generation because I'm a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit older than forty. Anyone in my generation, Jason's generation,

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<v Speaker 4>unfair generation. I'm going to go the next decade. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I had the opportunity to buy home by

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<v Speaker 4>my first time startup family. And it's also about building

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<v Speaker 4>your long term wealth. It's tough. It's really tough.

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<v Speaker 1>People are mad about it. Yeah, people are over it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I want something done about it too, because for

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<v Speaker 4>how we got here is by nothing being done about it,

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<v Speaker 4>by accepting the status quo, just saying, oh, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>do your best. Well, that's not acceptable to me, which

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<v Speaker 4>is why we've been announcing building more homes and yes

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<v Speaker 4>part of that around train stations, building a bit more

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<v Speaker 4>high apartments.

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<v Speaker 5>How high are we talking because there's people protesting is

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<v Speaker 5>in protesting in the streets about not wanting these apartment

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<v Speaker 5>buildings together.

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<v Speaker 2>Mate.

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<v Speaker 6>I was down at Brighton on the weekend. I took

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<v Speaker 6>the kids out for frozen yogurt and I came out

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<v Speaker 6>in the angry rich old people that were protesting outside

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<v Speaker 6>half Moon Hotel in Church Street and I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 6>are they winging about now they don't want it in

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<v Speaker 6>the Bay Side area.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that appeared to be their argument. But if you

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<v Speaker 4>start saying don't have it here, don't have it here,

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<v Speaker 4>don't have it here, you don't have it anywhere. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's how we got to this point. And so that's

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<v Speaker 4>why a bit of height around train stations.

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<v Speaker 1>Seeing closer to the city or out in the Adams.

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<v Speaker 4>This is across the suburbs, but identifying train station locations

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<v Speaker 4>because train we've been busy removing level crossings, upgrading the

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<v Speaker 4>train line. That's exactly where you want to have people

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<v Speaker 4>to live. You can jump on the train to get

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<v Speaker 4>to school youth services.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you're talking building more apartments in your train stations now,

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<v Speaker 6>getting rid of like stamp duty costs and stuff for

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<v Speaker 6>that for people to be able to buy into a

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<v Speaker 6>cheaper Are we talking public housing as well?

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<v Speaker 4>This is well, the government will continue to build public

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<v Speaker 4>social affordable housing. We're doing that already. This is about

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<v Speaker 4>is about how do we build more homes in the

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<v Speaker 4>private private market.

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<v Speaker 2>Will they be half private half public.

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<v Speaker 4>Because so there'll be a mix, right, it is a mix.

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<v Speaker 6>Because there's a big thing in the States at the moment,

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<v Speaker 6>I was talking to a friend of ours over there,

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<v Speaker 6>and what they're doing over there is to get down

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<v Speaker 6>taxes and stuff like that. The government are saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>if you include one like maybe levels one to three

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<v Speaker 6>are public housing and three to nine a private housing,

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<v Speaker 6>then people are buying too that unit block are getting

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<v Speaker 6>less taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>Or less fee.

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<v Speaker 4>So let me do what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 6>And so it's just saying sometimes they have separate entrances,

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<v Speaker 6>which I couldn't believe.

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<v Speaker 2>I could not believe.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's that's that's not definitely not what we're doing here.

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<v Speaker 4>What we're doing is for these these sorts of developments,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a streamlined planning process, and we're saying you've got

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<v Speaker 4>to have at least ten percent social affordable housing as

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<v Speaker 4>part of your development. Same developments, in the same developments,

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<v Speaker 4>in the same development. Okay, so if you're building ten

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<v Speaker 4>story apartment building and you want to go through our

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<v Speaker 4>faster planning processes because you get it built more quickly,

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<v Speaker 4>you've got to have at least ten percent social affordable.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, let's cut through it.

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<v Speaker 7>Then.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you think that's the issue that some people have?

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<v Speaker 6>They're like, oh, well, you know what I don't want

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<v Speaker 6>a building we're ten percent public housing in my area,

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<v Speaker 6>because that's what I reckon.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope in the area.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone deserves the dignity of roof.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just wonder if cutting through all the crap

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<v Speaker 2>is that what.

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<v Speaker 8>The issue is.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd really hope not, because it doesn't matter whether you

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<v Speaker 4>need a house that the government builds or a house

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<v Speaker 4>that the private industry builds. Who they do build the

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<v Speaker 4>majority of homes in this state, Yeah, we need more

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<v Speaker 4>of them, and that's why we've been We announced we're

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<v Speaker 4>releasing more land in the outer suburbs. So if you

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<v Speaker 4>want a big house on a bigger block, there's a

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<v Speaker 4>there's land supply and a pipeline.

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<v Speaker 5>Some of the housing in the public housing needs a

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<v Speaker 5>really good clean up. I saw an investigation into it

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<v Speaker 5>the other day, and there's families living in these environments.

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<v Speaker 5>They're so unsafe and so dangerous for these families and

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<v Speaker 5>their kids, and they don't want to black. Some people

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<v Speaker 5>would rather be in a shelter than be in these places.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know that people that looked out like we

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<v Speaker 6>used to live on just off Bluff Road in Hampton

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<v Speaker 6>East there and there was a huge government housing area

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<v Speaker 6>and people used to look down upon it, and he

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<v Speaker 6>used to give me the shits because I'd sit there

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<v Speaker 6>and go in a second.

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<v Speaker 2>You could end up needing accommodation.

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<v Speaker 4>More and more people are finding themselves vulnerable around because

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<v Speaker 4>we're not building enough. And that's why a game. We've

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<v Speaker 4>got to get a mix apartments. Townhouses are a great

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<v Speaker 4>way to go as well. How do you make it

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<v Speaker 4>easier for more townhouses to be built again around transports,

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<v Speaker 4>train station locations. That's what we're focused on. And look, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>there will be some people will have a different view

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<v Speaker 4>and won't like what you're doing. But listening to the

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<v Speaker 4>voices who only say no got us to this point.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to listen to the people who want us

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<v Speaker 4>to say yes to building more homes.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, bigger issue. Any chance you can have a chat

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<v Speaker 6>with our local council. I need my bins collected more

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<v Speaker 6>than fortnightly.

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<v Speaker 4>That's do you want to pull him out?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm in the Bentley area? Is killing me? Just

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<v Speaker 2>sent down? Well, I'm going around the shopping center's looking

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<v Speaker 2>for whely.

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<v Speaker 4>Being a chance local government elections are on now, you

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<v Speaker 4>could have.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's your enrollment going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you found that since he move moving on Lauren

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<v Speaker 6>thirteen twenty four to ten.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a question for the premiere, Hey, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not the Royals?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Well no, I mean I think it's great that the

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<v Speaker 4>King has come to visit Australia and we would love

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<v Speaker 4>to have him here.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't he come to Melbourne?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think there's there's a bit been said about it.

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<v Speaker 4>His trip was focused around Sydney and Canberra had to

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<v Speaker 4>head off into the Pacific. Couldn't possibly agree before he

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<v Speaker 4>had to head off to the to chair the media.

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<v Speaker 4>We could have.

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<v Speaker 5>Stayed in Sydney because he's tired, right, he's He could

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<v Speaker 5>have sent Camilla down for a bit of a little

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<v Speaker 5>to see nine out at barb Amy. Milla would have

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<v Speaker 5>loved ther knees up in Melbourne, don't you think I

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<v Speaker 5>think she would have? So did you choose not to meet?

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<v Speaker 1>To be a part of it?

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<v Speaker 7>Was?

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<v Speaker 4>There was a reception event that had a significant number

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<v Speaker 4>of people at Parliament Housing.

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<v Speaker 2>There are Snooze Festival.

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<v Speaker 4>And again the government, the Victorian community was really well

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<v Speaker 4>represented by our governor who is indeed the King's representatives

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<v Speaker 4>in the state, Margaret Gardner, and that is an important

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<v Speaker 4>part of her role and the government was represented by

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<v Speaker 4>my part.

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<v Speaker 1>That would have seen Christmas Day having the King and Queens.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've been very busy this week focusing on how

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<v Speaker 4>we can build more homes. Did not guarantee you didn't

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<v Speaker 4>want to go to is a great place, but my

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<v Speaker 4>focus has very much been on building more homes here

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<v Speaker 4>in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 5>Blocked okay in all seriously to get the kids from

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<v Speaker 5>school one day, the phones have lit up because I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>as the premiere of this state, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>things going on.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of things people want to.

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<v Speaker 4>Talk to you about.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going to take your calls next thirteen twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 5>If you do want to want to chat to us

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<v Speaker 5>and the premier of Victoria Center, Alan, do you get

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<v Speaker 5>nervous when this stuff happens and the pub the public

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<v Speaker 5>get a chance to actually ask you a question.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's a great part of the job. I say

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<v Speaker 4>that genuinely, whether it's taking calls or speaking for people

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<v Speaker 4>to public, that's that's what we should be doing.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Ship, nothing's off limits done Center Alan's actually.

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<v Speaker 6>Calls next when you hear Coldplay Paradise, give us a

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<v Speaker 6>ring and you will win tickets to the gig.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you going to cold play for Center?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're going to have to call us if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Now, we don't might not go down well with

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<v Speaker 6>the voters if we're like, okay, Central, Alan's on the line,

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<v Speaker 6>you've got ticket ticketing.

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<v Speaker 5>Politicians can't do anything? Can they even elbows in trouble

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<v Speaker 5>for buying a house, which seems ridiculous to me.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think of that? Bad timing?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Look, yeah, you got to leave, you've got to buy

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<v Speaker 4>a house. I think I'm more focused on you know, frankly,

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<v Speaker 4>are we going to get support from our federal government

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<v Speaker 4>here in victory or with what we want to do?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's what I'm He's the Prime minister, though he

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<v Speaker 5>should be allowed to have a buy a house.

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<v Speaker 1>Blokes worked very hard his whole life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's more a ting issue anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, we've asked Melbourne to give us a ring to

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<v Speaker 5>ask Premier just into Alan some questions. Are you ready

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<v Speaker 5>for this? Does this stuff freak you out? When this

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<v Speaker 5>could be anything?

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<v Speaker 4>But it's great?

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<v Speaker 6>All right, good luck, it's got a hillside, Thomas. You're

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<v Speaker 6>on the line of the premiere, which question I.

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<v Speaker 3>Just think Jason learned, Hello morning. I just want to

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<v Speaker 3>know without the rising uth crime going on at the moment,

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<v Speaker 3>and what your thoughts are on that, and also how

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<v Speaker 3>they're getting bailed so quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that seems to be the big concern.

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<v Speaker 6>I think everyone is sick and tired and agree with

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<v Speaker 6>me or disagree here Thomas, but I think everyone's sick

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<v Speaker 6>and tired of seeing offenders get caught doing something harsh

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<v Speaker 6>and finding out that they're actually already out on parole.

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<v Speaker 4>No, look, it is and that's why a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>months ago we announced that we've strengthening bail, the bail changes,

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<v Speaker 4>particularly for youth offenders here in Victoria put and the

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<v Speaker 4>legislation has already gone through the Parliament because we do

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<v Speaker 4>recognize that we have a particular issue. We do have

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<v Speaker 4>too many younger people. It's a smaller number, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>the repeat offenses.

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<v Speaker 5>And here, these repeat offenders do one too many and

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<v Speaker 5>bang they've killed someone innocently riding their bick to work.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's and that's horrific for the family and loved

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<v Speaker 4>ones of that person. And that is why we've done

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch. There's a bunch of things around this, but

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<v Speaker 4>particularly with a focus on strengthening that bail. So for

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<v Speaker 4>that's through the Parliament.

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<v Speaker 5>And are you're confident that will make a difference because

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<v Speaker 5>it feels like this problem is out of controlling Melbourne's.

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<v Speaker 4>Well just again, it's there's a number of things you've

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<v Speaker 4>got to do. There is a it's a smaller number

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<v Speaker 4>of young people and can I in terms of the

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<v Speaker 4>work that Vic Poldo they have every night overnight from

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<v Speaker 4>dust or dawn. They have dedicated police out on the street.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm working with no doubt the police are doing

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<v Speaker 5>their bit. That's the issue. I think everyone knows the

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<v Speaker 5>police are doing their bit and then these kids are

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<v Speaker 5>getting out again.

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<v Speaker 4>And so we're dealing with the court issue in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of strengthening the bail, but we've also got to go

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<v Speaker 4>back and stop it before we get to this point,

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<v Speaker 4>which is why there's a huge amount of work going

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<v Speaker 4>on with police as well. How do we get these

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<v Speaker 4>young kids when they've done something more lower end and

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<v Speaker 4>get them away from that life.

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<v Speaker 6>Christ sticking with cops, I just want to go to

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<v Speaker 6>lily Dale. Now we've got Mark on the line who's

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<v Speaker 6>a police officer. And I think we have all seen

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<v Speaker 6>the cop cars, the ambulances driving around Melbourne, fibrigade covered

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<v Speaker 6>in text of the cops saying we need more money,

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<v Speaker 6>we need more hours on market morning, Mate, you're on

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<v Speaker 6>the Larne at the center, Hi.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, First of all, I'd just like to thank the

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<v Speaker 8>opportunity wan to talk in regards to this issue itself.

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<v Speaker 8>But the question I really want to pose anyways, whether

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<v Speaker 8>or not the Premier is willing to step up and

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<v Speaker 8>intercede in this discussion of the ongoing EBA pay dispute

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<v Speaker 8>between the police force and just correct the situation that's

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<v Speaker 8>unfolded where we've had to go into Stage two industrial

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<v Speaker 8>action in regards to an ongoing discussion of where our

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<v Speaker 8>pays at. It's something that is quite demoralizing as a

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<v Speaker 8>police officer to have our livelihood. I suppose just back

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<v Speaker 8>and forth between government and our senior management in regards

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<v Speaker 8>to it and whether or not there can be some

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<v Speaker 8>sort of an arrangement step in and sort it out.

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<v Speaker 2>You can hear the emotion in your voice.

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<v Speaker 5>Mark.

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<v Speaker 6>That's not easy to talk about, mate, and rightfully so,

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<v Speaker 6>is that something you can sort out.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, thank you. Firstly, thanks Mark, And I was having

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<v Speaker 4>the same thought Jason that you can hear it. Mars

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<v Speaker 4>obviously a really committed police officer, So I want to

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<v Speaker 4>thank Mark for the work he does.

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<v Speaker 7>Sook.

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<v Speaker 4>This has been going This has been going on for.

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<v Speaker 1>A little while.

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<v Speaker 4>Knowledge, Yeah, and we do want to see it resolved.

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<v Speaker 4>There was an offer that was negotiated, it was agreed

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<v Speaker 4>between the parties, but it didn't get through the final

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<v Speaker 4>bit of the process with the police membership. And that's okay,

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<v Speaker 4>that's part of the process. So we are back at

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<v Speaker 4>the what they call the negotiating table. We're working through

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<v Speaker 4>the process. And my takeout from Mark and this is

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<v Speaker 4>certainly something I would agree with. We've got to get

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<v Speaker 4>on and get it resolved. Because I didn't hear from

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<v Speaker 4>he wants to go back to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you help with that in the position you're in,

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<v Speaker 2>we can help.

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<v Speaker 4>There is there are you know, there is any a

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<v Speaker 4>framework around how industrial relations negotiated, but it is certainly

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<v Speaker 4>that is a priority that we want to get resolved.

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<v Speaker 4>We've done it with the ambo's, we've done it with

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<v Speaker 4>the nurses. We know we need to do it with

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<v Speaker 4>the police.

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<v Speaker 5>Is there a timeline on that because these guys are

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<v Speaker 5>working their guts out overnight.

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<v Speaker 1>They're exhausted as it is, and I condee.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I would not want that job.

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<v Speaker 6>And as a tax payer, I'd rather mind money going

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<v Speaker 6>towards these guys out there protecting us than building a

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<v Speaker 6>parking statue.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, yep, well look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>We can lay off the statues.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I agree, I'll take take that as take that

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<v Speaker 4>as red.

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<v Speaker 7>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Look I agree this and look and i'ld go back

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<v Speaker 4>and check. I know there is a huge amount of

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<v Speaker 4>work going on because we've got to get this result.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to a priority.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, government, we're talking about this on the show the

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<v Speaker 6>other day. I was at the Boundary Hotel the other

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<v Speaker 6>week and there was this lady. I had one hour

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<v Speaker 6>of freedom and I say, okay, I'm going one hour

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<v Speaker 6>of freedom. And I got there and this poor lady

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<v Speaker 6>had fallen over and she was in the car park.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And there was one of the bartenders there and I

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<v Speaker 6>stayed with him and it was like late in the day,

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<v Speaker 6>it was getting cold. Thank god, I had all the

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<v Speaker 6>kids jumpers in the boot, so we covered the lady.

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<v Speaker 6>We waited an hour and twenty five minutes for an ambulance.

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<v Speaker 6>We had ring triplo four times. It was honestly like

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<v Speaker 6>ringing thirteen cabs. They were just like, hey, we'll get

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<v Speaker 6>one there when we can. And then when an ambulance

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<v Speaker 6>a right. This is the part that I found the

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<v Speaker 6>most frightening. It was one ambo. He was on his own,

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<v Speaker 6>so the only way they got her if we weren't there,

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<v Speaker 6>he wouldn't been able to get her on a stretcher,

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<v Speaker 6>get her into the ambulance to give a pain relief.

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<v Speaker 6>What's going on in the like in the country's biggest city,

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<v Speaker 6>how can we have that?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest, I was so frustrated.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, look we and again our ambo's also do a

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<v Speaker 4>great job, and we've got more of them on the

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<v Speaker 4>road in fact than other in terms of head of

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<v Speaker 4>population than any other state. But that doesn't mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we've got to stop there. There is a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>work that's also going on and how those calls that

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<v Speaker 4>are made, how they are their triage through the process,

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<v Speaker 4>because we know.

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<v Speaker 6>But then I've got a mate who's an AMBO officer,

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<v Speaker 6>and he will spend this is no jo. Here's been

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<v Speaker 6>half a shift sitting there playing word or parked at

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<v Speaker 6>a hospital waiting.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I was. That's one of the things we've

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<v Speaker 4>got fix. And that's one of the things between Ambulance

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<v Speaker 4>VIC and hospitals. We've got them doing some work on

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<v Speaker 4>exactly that. Because we are seeing that transfer a patient

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<v Speaker 4>between AMBO and the hospital front door.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not so frustrating for them as well, because that's

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<v Speaker 5>not what they're trained up to know. They don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to be sitting there making small talk with someone. And

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<v Speaker 5>we've had people calling through as well right now who

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<v Speaker 5>are asking how we're supporting these essential service workers because

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<v Speaker 5>we're seeing our ambos are burnt out.

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<v Speaker 1>We're seeing our front all of them. Please fire, they're

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<v Speaker 1>all burning out.

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<v Speaker 6>Can I push on it? And I get you have

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<v Speaker 6>to give me the answer go And we're working on that.

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<v Speaker 6>We're having those discussions. I don't know how it works, admittingly,

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<v Speaker 6>but do you just get them in a room and go.

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<v Speaker 6>We're not leaving until we sort it out.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what needs to be done, particularly on that

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<v Speaker 4>issue of can you mat the ambulance the ambulance back

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<v Speaker 4>door in the hospital front door. We've got to do

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<v Speaker 4>that better. And there is that is that is that

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<v Speaker 4>is the government? Yes, absolutely, it's the government and we

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<v Speaker 4>have we are there are there's work going on right

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<v Speaker 4>now on how that needs to be improved, because it's not,

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<v Speaker 4>as you said, it's not an ambo's passion to go

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<v Speaker 4>and sit.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually, Lauren, that day, if that was my mum laying

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<v Speaker 6>in that car park for an hour and a half

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<v Speaker 6>and it turned out she broke a hit for poor bugger,

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<v Speaker 6>and I was I was furious. I was like, as

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<v Speaker 6>a taxpayer, where's the help when you call?

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<v Speaker 4>And I do just want to say it is there

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of for the really serious this case. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not saying this lady's case wasn't serious, but we do

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<v Speaker 4>have a great.

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<v Speaker 6>System was playing on the ground. It was as serious

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<v Speaker 6>as I've seen it. I'm going to hold you to

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<v Speaker 6>that meeting. I put me in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get them bloody sort of it?

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<v Speaker 7>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Should we go to Hillside? All right? Tom morning?

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<v Speaker 1>Youth Crime.

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<v Speaker 5>Emily was asking about the essential service workers and how

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<v Speaker 5>we're helping them with burnout and fatigue, because it feels

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<v Speaker 5>like all of our frontline workers are on the brink

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<v Speaker 5>of people don't want to work in.

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<v Speaker 2>Emily, what industry are you in.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm actually an accountant.

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<v Speaker 2>But you've got police officers in your family.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, My families are predominantly police officers and like obviously

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<v Speaker 7>the essential service workers. And so it's actually quite concerning

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<v Speaker 7>to see the hours that they work and then the

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<v Speaker 7>next day they have to get up being mom, b

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<v Speaker 7>dad and then go back to work and work those

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<v Speaker 7>extensive hours again. And what they see on the shifts

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<v Speaker 7>and what they deal with to see it affect their

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<v Speaker 7>mental health sometimes, Like you know, when they've done back

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<v Speaker 7>to back shifts and they've been pretty bad shifts, they're burkout,

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<v Speaker 7>They're exhaust there, they're fatigued, they're stressed because they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>I still got to do the paperwork or the reports

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<v Speaker 7>or and the mental toll on them, like they're just

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<v Speaker 7>so burnt out. Their mental health takes a bit of

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<v Speaker 7>a toll. So my real question is like what are

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<v Speaker 7>you doing to support these work is because they are

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<v Speaker 7>under staff they're taking on the extra load and ye

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<v Speaker 7>account and when yeah, when my team like is short staffed,

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<v Speaker 7>it's stressful. And mate, I only do numbers in a calculator.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, thanks, thanks Emily. Look there is alongside the

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<v Speaker 4>discussion we've had so far about the pay and the

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<v Speaker 4>enterprise bargaining process, there's been some targeted programs that have

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<v Speaker 4>been developed with the Police Association Victoria Police for police

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<v Speaker 4>mental health because it is recognizing that it is a

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<v Speaker 4>job like no other. You do see some are you

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<v Speaker 4>tough stuff, and it is also a job that's twenty

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<v Speaker 4>four hours a day, seven days a week, so you're

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<v Speaker 4>out at different times of the day when the rest

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<v Speaker 4>of us don't have to be out out and about.

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<v Speaker 4>So there is some really targeted support for vic POP

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<v Speaker 4>that is run through vic Pole for Victoria Police. And

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<v Speaker 4>this is a program we supported following advice from the

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<v Speaker 4>Police Association saying hey, we need to do more to

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<v Speaker 4>support police mental health.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and that's happening. Yes, it is happening.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Hey, I'm just quickly on that. The other concern

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<v Speaker 6>I had was Shane Patton, our police Chief Wigham, the

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<v Speaker 6>head honcho of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Victory I love him, we love him.

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<v Speaker 6>However, he didn't know that the cops were referred to

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<v Speaker 6>as the popos.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Is that a question for the Premieer.

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<v Speaker 7>No.

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<v Speaker 6>I think in your next briefing you should let him

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<v Speaker 6>know the slang terms used.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hey, look, we can't get to all the calls.

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<v Speaker 5>The phones have I mean, this has gone as nuts

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<v Speaker 5>as when we say we've got Coldplay tickets room. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>there's a lot of people that want to talk to

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<v Speaker 5>you there. Victoria is a great state. We've got some

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<v Speaker 5>serious issues. Thanks for answering those questions. Oh, we appreciate it, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks to your callers. It is there are some challenges,

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<v Speaker 4>but it is a great place and we've got to

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<v Speaker 4>work at how do we work through those challenges and

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<v Speaker 4>continue to support the things we love about Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you're right, we love this state and I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 6>to get heated and by all means we wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 6>your job. Oh god, no, no, we barely do this one.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, there are a lot of frustrations and we just.

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<v Speaker 4>Haven't got to hear them. Yeah, I've got to hear them.

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<v Speaker 6>I know you want to fix just as much as us.

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