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Speaker 1: It fits in Whipper love this lady, Semi Frost. We

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Speaker 1: always get her in whenever we get an opportunity. She's

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Speaker 1: got a brand new book out, believe that we need

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Speaker 2: Yes, so much for having me. I'm excited to be

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Speaker 1: This is fun.

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Speaker 3: It is good to see you. Hey. You know what,

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Speaker 3: when you think about a book, Believe what I love

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Speaker 3: about you and what you're doing these days is the truth,

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Speaker 3: the openness, the honesty, the sharing, and now it's all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I mean, I think it's really important

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Speaker 1: Was it therapeutic? Are you one of those? Because I

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Speaker 1: feel like, Semi, you're at home and you're looking at

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, And I felt like it was a good

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Speaker 1: I find a lot of people reach out to you

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Speaker 1: You got famous really quickly, Like it's been such a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so eight years, but which is unbelievable. Do you

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Speaker 3: Because she loves you.

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Speaker 1: That's not the reason why you left home in a way,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the media just just decided to create

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Speaker 2: I prioritized my prioritize my mental health and I want

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Speaker 2: and spending time with my family was definitely number one.

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Speaker 3: Would you would you do more acting in the future?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I love it.

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Speaker 3: What do you want to do?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that's kind of the fun

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Speaker 1: You leave Australia. Would you go overseas or not? You've

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I just like hanging out with my family.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, you in love at the moment, Sammy, Is

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Speaker 1: Do you want to go and slap in.

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Speaker 2: Smith when we already saw the ripple affecting that? What

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, someone, you've got to smile on your face

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Speaker 1: Can I ask where you meet him?

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Speaker 3: Stop list?

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Speaker 2: No, actually met him. He's friends with my brother.

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Speaker 2: He's like, oh about my brother up and I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 2: is he single or what? And then he's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Is he your brother's age? He's a younger man. I'll

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Speaker 1: be on the front of a Woman's Day tomorrow, doctor Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown and Sam Ross is pregnant. The new book is

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Speaker 1: called Believe Learning to Live with Yourself and all your

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Speaker 1: glorious imperfections. You are perfect to write this book. So

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Speaker 1: thank you, Sammy. You're a good friend of the show

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Speaker 1: and we love having you in. Thanks for coming, Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much

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