WEBVTT - It's all about resilience 0:00:05.921 --> 0:00:25.200 Apogae Production. Welcome back to another episode of Am I 0:00:25.321 --> 0:00:28.121 A Bad Mum? Podcast? I don't know why we've just 0:00:28.161 --> 0:00:30.121 had school holidays, but I feel like it should be 0:00:30.441 --> 0:00:33.601 school holidays again. I don't know, I just feel like 0:00:33.641 --> 0:00:36.840 the last couple of weeks, like so much has like 0:00:36.881 --> 0:00:40.161 we've just hit a million miles an hour and now 0:00:40.161 --> 0:00:41.481 I'm like, okay, I need this. 0:00:41.801 --> 0:00:44.361 I keep forgetting what week it is right Like, I'm 0:00:44.441 --> 0:00:47.321 genuinely feeling like this term. 0:00:47.241 --> 0:00:49.040 Has kicked off really quickly. 0:00:49.721 --> 0:00:53.841 I feel like though, between you and I, we've got 0:00:53.881 --> 0:00:58.560 four kids. Yeah, minor in year ten high school, so 0:00:58.601 --> 0:01:00.921 we've done all of the primary school, we've done most 0:01:01.001 --> 0:01:04.081 of the high school, and I still couldn't tell you 0:01:04.121 --> 0:01:06.920 how many weeks are in a term. 0:01:07.321 --> 0:01:10.080 Google helps out with that sometimes in case you're like 0:01:10.161 --> 0:01:12.921 looking for that quick fix of like, shit, what date 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:14.320 are they going to be home? 0:01:15.041 --> 0:01:16.321 That's the only way I survive. 0:01:16.521 --> 0:01:20.360 I've googled that several times this year within the term 0:01:20.681 --> 0:01:22.080 to work out what we were in. 0:01:22.441 --> 0:01:24.920 Yeah, how lem I mean, it's probably in the newsletter 0:01:24.961 --> 0:01:28.041 that I read that it's not in Bullpoint. 0:01:28.161 --> 0:01:29.200 Can't sorry? 0:01:38.881 --> 0:01:42.121 Am I a Bad Mum? For forcing them to go 0:01:43.321 --> 0:01:44.080 absolutely not. 0:01:44.241 --> 0:01:45.840 It would have been necessary for sure. 0:01:46.961 --> 0:01:48.081 They went to school camp. 0:01:48.281 --> 0:01:48.961 Absolutely. 0:01:49.201 --> 0:01:52.161 As we know, my kids hate school camp. They have 0:01:52.201 --> 0:01:54.201 it two get at home. It's funny because all the 0:01:54.281 --> 0:01:55.880 kids to hate school camp. 0:01:56.321 --> 0:01:58.401 But I think it's the older they get. 0:01:58.881 --> 0:02:02.121 They don't like school camp because my two are the 0:02:02.121 --> 0:02:04.721 first ones on the bus and the last ones to 0:02:04.761 --> 0:02:05.281 get off. 0:02:05.321 --> 0:02:06.921 They genuinely love it. 0:02:06.961 --> 0:02:09.681 So I reckon it's older because the challenges get more, 0:02:10.201 --> 0:02:11.680 maybe like in depth for them. 0:02:12.041 --> 0:02:15.521 Yeah, well this particular one, so they went out to 0:02:16.201 --> 0:02:19.561 it's called Emu Gully. It's like out to Womba Way. Yeah, 0:02:20.121 --> 0:02:25.081 and the particular days that they went it was rainy 0:02:25.121 --> 0:02:33.961 and stormy and they they were sleeping in swags outside. Obviously, 0:02:34.001 --> 0:02:36.241 they're not allowed to take their phones, and there are 0:02:36.321 --> 0:02:39.081 kids that do take their phones, but I'm adamant. I'm like, 0:02:39.321 --> 0:02:42.121 absolutely not. The rules are you know, allowd your phone. 0:02:42.281 --> 0:02:44.481 First of all, I don't want you losing your phone. Secondly, 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:46.681 I don't want you sat scrolling the whole night like 0:02:46.721 --> 0:02:49.961 you don't get any sleep anyway. And Thirdly, which I 0:02:50.001 --> 0:02:52.761 say thirdly it's kind of the first on the list, 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:57.841 really is I don't want you constantly texting me about 0:02:57.881 --> 0:03:00.761 what a horrible time you're having. Actually don't want to know, 0:03:01.161 --> 0:03:02.921 Like I'm going to get that, like for a whole 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:06.001 day when I pick you up, Yeah, gonna bitch and 0:03:06.121 --> 0:03:09.601 moan and tell me how horrible it is. So for 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.521 these two days, I want to be able to just 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:13.321 not hear about it. 0:03:13.401 --> 0:03:16.521 I just want to enjoy my time without you here 0:03:16.841 --> 0:03:19.601 whining about it. That would be the first reason for 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.400 me too. Yeah, like the scrolling, Yes, that's gonna happen. 0:03:22.441 --> 0:03:23.761 They're gonna have a late night whatever. 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.161 But I don't want to hear about how bad a 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:27.881 time you're having. 0:03:28.081 --> 0:03:32.001 Come and pick me up. This happened. I'm so sad. Like, 0:03:32.641 --> 0:03:36.281 if I am not contactable, you'll just get on with 0:03:36.361 --> 0:03:39.121 things and you'll be fine. Yeah, and you'll cope with 0:03:39.161 --> 0:03:42.201 it all. But if I can be contacted, then you're 0:03:42.241 --> 0:03:44.921 gonna make sure that I feel shit about what you're 0:03:45.001 --> 0:03:47.641 going through. And actually I don't feel shit about what 0:03:47.681 --> 0:03:50.201 you're going through because I think it's resilient. 0:03:50.601 --> 0:03:52.761 Oh, it's so good for them. So what did they 0:03:52.801 --> 0:03:53.201 get up to? 0:03:53.441 --> 0:03:55.841 So they had to sleep in the swags and that 0:03:55.921 --> 0:03:59.641 first night was pissing down with rain, and then there 0:03:59.721 --> 0:04:03.001 was like thunder problems, thunder thunderstorms. Yeah, in my mind, 0:04:03.001 --> 0:04:05.921 I was like, surely they've had to hate them inside 0:04:05.961 --> 0:04:10.281 and they're sleeping in the cabins or something. Yet surely no, 0:04:10.961 --> 0:04:15.121 it slept out in the storm in swags. I said, 0:04:15.121 --> 0:04:17.361 what'd you do with your stuff? Because these swags are. 0:04:17.201 --> 0:04:19.521 Like just you are they waterproof? 0:04:19.801 --> 0:04:24.241 Obously, they definitely got wet, you know, those really tiny 0:04:24.401 --> 0:04:27.281 one man tents were literally and they said, Mum, it's 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:31.601 so castrophobic, like being in a coffin because they're just 0:04:32.521 --> 0:04:36.881 bags and stuff outside in the rain. So all their 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:40.960 stuff just got wet. And then what they had to 0:04:41.041 --> 0:04:44.241 do is so they were learning all about when I 0:04:44.361 --> 0:04:46.520 laughed last year saying that when they got in the 0:04:46.561 --> 0:04:48.561 car after school camp, it looked like they'd come back 0:04:48.561 --> 0:04:53.601 from war. Literally they were teaching them about ANZACs and 0:04:54.401 --> 0:04:58.121 like one of the activities was they had one kid 0:04:58.161 --> 0:05:00.921 who turned out to be Amelia was chosen to lay 0:05:00.921 --> 0:05:03.241 on a stretcher. She was pretending to be an injured 0:05:03.281 --> 0:05:07.801 soldier and the other the group had to carry her. 0:05:08.201 --> 0:05:11.921 But they had to go through trenches like mud water 0:05:12.161 --> 0:05:14.161 at one point that were up to their necks in 0:05:14.281 --> 0:05:17.481 water like holding up the Oh my gosh, it's so good, 0:05:17.641 --> 0:05:20.840 stretcher above them mud everywhere. 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.121 Amelia would have loved that, because she wouldn't have been 0:05:23.241 --> 0:05:24.960 She's fine, she's light. 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:31.241 Lady, and all the others are like swamping through the mud. 0:05:31.401 --> 0:05:33.561 Holly looked at me when I picked her up and 0:05:33.601 --> 0:05:35.081 she was telling me about what she had to do. 0:05:35.121 --> 0:05:39.521 She went, Mum, we had to be barefoot. They were 0:05:39.681 --> 0:05:43.960 barefoot in the mud. I looked at the pictures. I 0:05:44.001 --> 0:05:45.520 had a look at the website, and they were showing 0:05:45.521 --> 0:05:48.041 me each different part that they did. I said, what 0:05:48.121 --> 0:05:50.001 if there was like something in there, like when I 0:05:50.001 --> 0:05:52.601 say something like an animal like? I said, was there 0:05:52.601 --> 0:05:55.761 anything in there? She went, I don't know. I didn't 0:05:55.801 --> 0:05:58.721 even want to think about it. It's like swamp water. 0:05:59.601 --> 0:06:01.720 Yeah, so they would have been eels in there for sure. 0:06:01.921 --> 0:06:04.601 Yeah, And I thought snakes like they were in their 0:06:04.681 --> 0:06:06.921 bare foot and there's like. 0:06:07.281 --> 0:06:09.561 I'll deal with it. Their first aid trained. 0:06:09.681 --> 0:06:12.801 They know how to put on like a compression depression 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:16.481 bandage to stop the poison going up their leg. 0:06:17.121 --> 0:06:17.520 Yeah. 0:06:17.681 --> 0:06:19.721 Well, steels are harmless. They don't go for you. 0:06:19.801 --> 0:06:23.361 They just slither between your toes and around your ankles and. 0:06:23.961 --> 0:06:27.721 Even washing their clothes. When they got back great, they 0:06:27.761 --> 0:06:30.960 had like this bin bag full of like the wet, 0:06:31.081 --> 0:06:35.761 muddy stuff. I took those like pants out and then 0:06:35.841 --> 0:06:38.721 like put my arm into it was inside out, put 0:06:38.721 --> 0:06:40.600 my arm in to turn it the right way round. 0:06:41.001 --> 0:06:44.281 And just the feel of that on my hand, of 0:06:44.401 --> 0:06:47.320 the mud and the cold and the wet, I was 0:06:47.361 --> 0:06:50.721 just like, oh, it's horrible. And then they had to 0:06:50.761 --> 0:06:53.320 swim in the creek to get the mud off. Yeah, 0:06:53.521 --> 0:06:59.561 it was cold, that'll be fine. Oh. There was the 0:06:59.561 --> 0:07:03.400 funniest thing, mum. The shower was a bucket and we 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.921 had to keep filling up the bucket and that's how 0:07:05.961 --> 0:07:11.161 we showered outside. And the toilet was also a bucket. 0:07:11.321 --> 0:07:14.721 It was a Bunnings bucket outside. They had to squat 0:07:14.801 --> 0:07:17.561 over the bucket. I said, did you go for like 0:07:17.601 --> 0:07:18.801 a number two at all? 0:07:18.841 --> 0:07:21.561 They were like no, Oh my gosh. 0:07:21.601 --> 0:07:24.161 They said, when you go to the toilet, you're winging 0:07:24.201 --> 0:07:25.361 over someone else's poop. 0:07:27.521 --> 0:07:28.641 Who empty is a bucket? 0:07:28.681 --> 0:07:31.601 I don't know what. They had to cook their own dinner? 0:07:31.961 --> 0:07:33.881 Yeah, what were they cooking? Did you have to pack 0:07:33.921 --> 0:07:36.681 food and stuff for them? No, but they just had 0:07:36.721 --> 0:07:37.161 to cook it. 0:07:37.241 --> 0:07:40.321 They had to cook it okay. I feel like there 0:07:40.401 --> 0:07:42.641 was a lot of resilience. But you know, the one 0:07:42.641 --> 0:07:45.161 thing that I was really interested in is that they 0:07:45.201 --> 0:07:48.961 had the option not to do those activities because it 0:07:49.081 --> 0:07:51.841 was all about not forcing people to do what they 0:07:51.921 --> 0:07:54.041 don't want to do, which you know, this is a 0:07:54.041 --> 0:07:57.681 controversial top topic. I know how we feel about it. 0:07:58.121 --> 0:08:00.521 I mean, back in the day, suck it up, princess, 0:08:00.641 --> 0:08:03.081 just get on do it. Yeah, you weren't allowed to 0:08:03.161 --> 0:08:05.001 have an option of not doing it because you didn't 0:08:05.401 --> 0:08:05.681 like it. 0:08:05.841 --> 0:08:08.881 What was the ratio of people that chose not to 0:08:08.961 --> 0:08:11.081 do it then the ones that did choose to do it? 0:08:11.121 --> 0:08:11.720 Was it huge? 0:08:11.721 --> 0:08:13.561 It was like, yeah, I feel like it was. They 0:08:13.601 --> 0:08:15.721 said there were so many people that chose not to 0:08:15.721 --> 0:08:18.201 do it, like fifty to fifty. I said to Holly, 0:08:18.521 --> 0:08:21.041 but you chose to do it. She went, yeah, well, 0:08:21.081 --> 0:08:23.481 we were all working as a team and if I didn't, 0:08:23.641 --> 0:08:26.001 you know, help out. There had to be a certain 0:08:26.001 --> 0:08:28.801 amount of people to carry the stretcher. And she said, 0:08:28.801 --> 0:08:30.241 if I didn't do it, she said, Mum, for the 0:08:30.241 --> 0:08:32.761 first time ever, I like really didn't put myself first. 0:08:32.841 --> 0:08:35.321 I was thinking about everybody else. I was like, good, 0:08:35.361 --> 0:08:40.201 I knew this is resilience. Now next day, my friend, 0:08:40.241 --> 0:08:41.601 you will be back at camp. 0:08:41.881 --> 0:08:45.521 Yes, that's really good to hear, and especially in those moments, 0:08:45.561 --> 0:08:47.881 you sort of have that like as much as they 0:08:48.081 --> 0:08:51.881 bitch and moan about doing it, they did it. They 0:08:51.921 --> 0:08:53.881 could have bitched and moaned and then got there and 0:08:53.921 --> 0:08:55.521 then chose not to participate. 0:08:55.761 --> 0:08:57.921 Yeah, but they didn't. They got in and they were like, 0:08:58.241 --> 0:09:00.681 let's do it. This is a team. And I love that. 0:09:00.881 --> 0:09:03.001 I love that it actually means that whatever you're teaching 0:09:03.001 --> 0:09:06.401 them at home, it's sticking, much as they don't want 0:09:06.441 --> 0:09:07.281 to admit it. 0:09:07.601 --> 0:09:08.121 Yeah. 0:09:08.201 --> 0:09:11.761 I saw the teachers getting off the bus with Gracie's grade, 0:09:11.761 --> 0:09:13.041 which is like grade six. 0:09:13.401 --> 0:09:14.841 Now, these poor teachers. 0:09:14.481 --> 0:09:18.081 Look like they had been at war, and like one 0:09:18.081 --> 0:09:21.481 of them she goes, I have not slept for four nights, 0:09:21.721 --> 0:09:23.761 and I was like, I get it. I mean, like 0:09:23.801 --> 0:09:25.481 I don't get it because I'm not a school teacher 0:09:25.481 --> 0:09:28.001 and i haven't been away with that many kids, which 0:09:28.121 --> 0:09:29.881 was just like poor things. She was like, she ended 0:09:29.921 --> 0:09:32.721 up having like three days off from work because she 0:09:33.001 --> 0:09:34.361 was exhausted. 0:09:34.601 --> 0:09:37.881 And do you know what, honestly, Rach, the preparation for 0:09:37.921 --> 0:09:40.441 this camp and the packing list and the stuff I 0:09:40.481 --> 0:09:43.961 had to buy. Yeah, I went to Kmart. I got 0:09:44.041 --> 0:09:48.041 cheap everything, including like runners to get wet and muddy. 0:09:48.321 --> 0:09:51.801 Cheapest came out ones. I spent four hundred and fifty 0:09:51.881 --> 0:09:55.601 dollars for two nights, so I got to camp. I 0:09:55.641 --> 0:09:57.321 could have got a five star hotel for that. 0:09:59.081 --> 0:10:02.161 That is not going to teach them anything, But how 0:10:02.361 --> 0:10:03.681 was your five star hotels? 0:10:03.801 --> 0:10:06.481 It was really good free time away. And just as 0:10:06.521 --> 0:10:08.761 we dropped the kids off, Amelia turned to me and went, 0:10:09.081 --> 0:10:12.441 enjoy your five star hotel. And I could see in 0:10:12.521 --> 0:10:15.401 her mind she didn't say it, but she may as 0:10:15.441 --> 0:10:18.121 well have gone, enjoy your five star hotel. You fuck it, 0:10:18.561 --> 0:10:20.681 then slam the door and off she goes to camp. 0:10:22.161 --> 0:10:26.921 By Darling, see you in a few days.